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Russia stands accused of state-sponsored murde, after the

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killing of the former spy, Alexander Litvinenko.

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He died of radiation poisoning in London in 2006.

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An independent inquiry says it was probably sanctioned

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I'm of course very pleased that the words my husband spoke

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on his deathbed when he accused Mr Putin of his murder

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International arrest warrants remain in place for the men accused

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of the murder but Russia refuses to extradite them.

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This was a blatant and unacceptable breach of the most fundamental

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tenets of international law and civilised behaviour

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But the Government has come under pressure from all sides to take much

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A "dark chapter" - the BBC's verdict on the Savile

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scandal, as an early draft of an official report is leaked.

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How close is David Cameron to a deal on EU reform?

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As the debate on Trident intensifies, we take a closer look

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If the Prime Minister ever were to give the order to fire,

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it's from here, via a trigger just like this, that the Trident nuclear

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And a radical approach to protecting the South African rhino from the

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A revolution in rail services - proposals for the Mayor to take

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And the companies fighting back against the housing crisis -

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A decade after the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko

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was murdered in London, a public inquiry has found

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a "strong probability" that his death was ordered

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by the Russian security service and approved by President Putin.

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The Russians have dismissed the findings as absurd

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But the Home Secretary said it was a "blatant breach

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Mr Litvinenko died in hospital three weeks after drinking tea laced

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with a highly radioactive substance, as our security correspondent,

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Alexander Litvinenko met a slow, painful death -

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Today a judge concluded he was killed in an operation

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by the Russian Security Service, the FSB, likely organised

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-- likely authorised at the highest level.

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The FSB operation to kill Mr Litvinenko was probably approved

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by Mr Patrushev, then head of the FSB, and also by President

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Litvinenko was a former Russian intelligence officer,

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who'd spoken out about corruption, and then fled with his

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In 2006, he met two Russians, former FSB officer, Andrei Lugovoi,

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and Dmitry Kovtun, both caught here on CCTV.

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In the Pine Bar, Litvinenko was served a drink with this teapot

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which was laced with radioactive polonium.

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Police would be able to follow a trail of radioactivity

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from restaurants, to football stadiums, all leaving

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Including even from the teapot, which was used again.

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It took Litvinenko himself three weeks to die.

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There were audible gasps here in court when the judge said

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responsibility probably lay at the highest levels of the Kremlin

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and this report argues the motive was that Litvinenko was viewed

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Litvinenko was so hated that Russian special forces used his image

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Today's report said that's because of his accusations of murder

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and corruption against the FSB and Putin.

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And the Russians had learned he'd begun working with Britain's MI6.

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That came when Litvinenko tried to recruit Lugovoi

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also to work for MI6, not realising where his true loyalties lay.

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Today his widow, who fought for years for this inquiry,

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told me the British Government must now expel all Russian spies based

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in their London Embassy and take action against senior

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We are looking for this personal sanction against people

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who were involved in the crime against my husband.

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Today in the Commons, the Government said it

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would consider the implications of the report.

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The conclusion that the Russian state was probably involved

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in the murder of Mr Litvinenko is deeply disturbing.

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It goes without saying that this was a blatant and unacceptable

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breach of the most fundamental tenets of international law

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But, the Opposition criticised the Government's response.

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I am not sure it goes anywhere near enough in answering

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the seriousness of the findings in this report.

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Indeed, it could send a dangerous signal to Russia,

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Today two of the most powerful men in Russia,

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a former director of the Security Service,

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and the country's leader, were named as likely responsible

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for what's been described as "an act of nuclear terrorism

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A murder which left Alexander Litvinenko's

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body so radioactive, it had to be buried

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Russia reacted angrily to the inquiry and accused

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The Russian ambassador was summoned to the Foreign Office.

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He emerged from the meeting with a warning that relations

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Our diplomatic correspondent, Bridget Kendall, considers

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the potential long-term consequences of the Litvinenko case.

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Top story on Russian TV news this evening, but the findings of the

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Litvinenko report were described as "be a sound and a farce" by the

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Russian government. Also speaking out, the main suspect, Andrei

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Lugovoi, who dismissed the findings as an attempt to slur Russia.

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TRANSLATION: Before it was just me and Kovtun. Now the report says

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probably Russia's leaders were involved. But where's the evidence?

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What's the motive? It's some group in the British establishment which

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wants to worsen relations with Russia. In London, the Russian

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Ambassador was summoned to the Foreign Office, where Britain laid

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down the same demands it made nearly a decade ago, that the suspectsk

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extradited and Russia explain the actions of its Security Service.

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Afterwards he dismissed it as a white wash. For us, it is absolutely

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unacceptable that the report concludes that the Russian state was

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in anyway involved in the death of Mr Litvinenko. This this cannot help

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but hurt our by lateral relations. Today's response by the British

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Government, this Litvinenko report, is, let's face it, minimal. Asset

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freezes on the two suspects and the Russian Ambassador called in here to

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the Foreign Office. The reason is, Britain faces a delemia, yes, the

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report looks like a threat but Russia is also needed as a partner.

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First in Syria, where Russia's air strikes are trouble bug West wants

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it to help with peace talks and to combat so-called IS extremists. Then

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there's Iran's nuclear deal. Well, Russia was apparently helpful. And

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lastly Ukraine, where Russia may have fuelled the conflict but it is

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also needed to end T aggressive, authoritarian, Putin's Russia may

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invite zero trust in the West but it is too important to be totally

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ostracised. We have put sanctions in place, led the arguments in Europe

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for sanctions against Russia because of theirI will Lille action in the

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Ukraine but do we, at some level, have to go on having some sort of

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relationship with them because we need a solution to the Syria crisis?

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Yes, we do. But we do it with clear eyes and a very cold heart.

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Less than six months ago, they were shaking hands. Now the problem for

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Britain, how to deal with Mr Putin without letting him think he can get

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away with anything. Lawyers for Jimmy Savile's victims

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say they're astonished that an independent review seems to have

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accepted that senior BBC managers A leaked early draft version

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of the report by Dame Janet Smith identifies dozens of sexual assaults

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linked to the corporation. BBC managers confronted Savile

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during the 1970s but the report concludes they had no evidence

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of wrongdoing, as David I'll tell you what we'll do now,

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ladies and gentlemen. Girls at Top Of The Pops

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in the '70s were, it said, But the BBC isn't

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responding just yet. What happened was a dark chapter

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in the history of the BBC. The review has said that the copy

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leaked to the media was an early draft, which has changed

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considerably, so while I'm impatient to learn those lessons,

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the responsible thing must be to act on the final report,

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which we've not yet received. But this draft does shed a great

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deal of light on questions such And, most importantly,

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what did the people at the top know? He tended to take over

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things when he was there. Derek Chinnery ran Radio

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1 in the late '70s. Savile was at his leaving party,

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but the report highlights another meeting that began with a call from

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his boss. He'd heard rumours about what Savile

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had been up to and would Savile had been summoned

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to a meeting, but what did Derek Chinnery remembered very

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little, but he wasn't alone Doreen Davies, here in the centre,

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was the official observer. She's never spoken before,

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and crucially she remembers exactly Taking 14-year-old girls home

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from Top Of The Pops. He said - I believe that one

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of the stories was you had girls in your flat in London, so Jimmy

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Savile said, yes, yes, that's right. Savile said he was just

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keeping the girls safe. Dame Janet Smith spoke to more

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than 100 people who'd heard rumours. These two senior figures from Radio

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1 had heard nothing. No one was whispering,

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no one was gossiping? This too is the conclusion

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of the draft report. No one at the top knew,

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but the victims have their doubts. I met - we'll call her Jane -

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who as a 15-year-old was assaulted by Savile in a Top Of

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The Pops dressing room. I am certain that people were aware

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of what or why Savile took me Because you were seen to be taken

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by him to that dressing Regardless of whether in the '70s

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that lifestyle was different, Savile got away with it and this

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report, like the police, like the NHS, has

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the same conclusion. Why didn't people

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ask more questions? David Cameron is unlikely

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to get an agreement on reform of the European Union

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at next month's summit, according to the French Prime

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Minister, Manuel Valls. Mr Cameron has repeatedly said he's

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hopeful of a deal in February and has suggested a referendum

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on Britain's membership could be But speaking at an economic summit

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in Switzerland today, he said he was in "no hurry",

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as our economics editor, For a man who claimed

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not to be in a hurry, there was certainly a gear

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change over Europe today, as the Prime Minister came

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to the Alps to sell to political and business leaders

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what he sees as the best deal I can hold my referendum at any time

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up until the end of 2017, but of course I think it would be

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good for Europe and good for Britain if we demonstrated that we can turn

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the goodwill that there is into the actions that

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are necessary to put this The Prime Minister admitted

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there was still some way to go and he made it clear that curbs

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on EU citizens coming to Britain were an essential part

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of the renegotiation package. If there is no deal on welfare curbs

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for immigrants from the EU into Britain, is there

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no deal at all? This migration welfare question

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is absolutely crucial. You should have to wait four years

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before you get full access As I've said, that proposal

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remains on the table. I know that some other countries

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have difficulties with it. David Cameron is here

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in Davos with a big message Back my efforts, he says,

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to keep Britain inside a reformed European Union, but actually it's

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not the big public stages that It's those private negotiations

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with other European leaders and global leaders, and those

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are happening today, One of those meetings

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was with Mark Rutte, the Dutch Prime Minister

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and Mr Cameron's ally, but on the issue of curbing

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migration it wasn't I think the concrete idea

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on the table has this notion of discrimination, so what we now

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have to do together collectively is find a solution for all the 28

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in which you would uphold the principle of free movement,

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uphold the principle of non-discrimination,

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and I think that is doable. The rest of Davos is watching

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and for the biggest beast, We think it is in the UK's interest,

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Europe's interest, and global interest to keep the union together

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and to have the United Kingdom stay I'm not sure David Cameron

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is representing our interests I mean, I think it's really very

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disappointing that the changes he is trying to push

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through are so small. The skies were clear

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over the Alps today, but Mr Cameron knows there could be

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a few more icy moments before any deal is put to the British public

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in that long-awaited EU referendum. Our political editor

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Laura Kuenssberg is in Downing When Mr Cameron says he is in no

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hurry at all, does that mean he's has given up hope of a deal next

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month? I don't think you've given up, but certainly no politician

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wants to look like a fool, and if he'd allowed a sense of

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inevitability to carry on and then it failed next month, that would

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have looked like a big failure of the him as well but I can tell you

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tonight the bigger reason is that the negotiations are a long way off

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from being complete. Countries are still far apart on issues like

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whether or not the UK can ban benefits for four years for EU

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workers. There is no final agreement as I understand it in any of the

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four areas where David Cameron wants to see change. There is nothing on

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paper yet, no concrete proposals in sight. There are areas of broad

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agreement. There has been progress in all of this. But for David

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Cameron I think the sense was he wanted to arrest this sense that the

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deal was inevitably going to happen in a matter of weeks. There is

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nothing that is certain about that. Now stand back for a second. There

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is real political drive and goodwill to make it happen, but that's not

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the same as him being able to come back next month waving a piece of

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paper and claiming triumph already. In a sense as the front -- French

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Prime Minister Manuel Valls said, it's not likely, but it's certainly

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going to happen, there's a sense it was a reality check.

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In Germany, Chancellor Merkel is facing louder calls to limit

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the number of refugees entering the country.

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Her government announced today that emergency border controls

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would remain in place indefinitely following public disquiet over

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the number of people seeking asylum, many of them fleeing

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More than a million asylum seekers arrived in 2015,

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and officials say 2000 people are still arriving every day.

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Our Europe editor Katya Adler reports from Berlin on the changing

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This is what looking after yourself and your family is beginning to look

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Non-lethal gas pistols, mace and pepper spray are flying off

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Customers say they want them for self-defence.

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A lot of women are coming to us and a lot of other people.

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Normally it's full here but now, you see, it is empty,

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The shop manager here told us the New Year's Eve sexual assault

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by migrants in the city of Cologne has changed everything.

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TRANSLATION: I'm worried about my wife.

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Everywhere I've been is sold out of pepper spray.

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I'm not a racist but I think women now need to protect themselves.

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For German society, this is a dramatic shift.

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Because of this country's Nazi past, people have tended to be sensitive

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about their attitude towards minorities and the use

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They put their trust in their Government,

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particularly Angela Merkel, to provide the stability

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and security this country holds so dear.

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But now most Germans say they feel the migration situation

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Most Germans are very concerned about migration,

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but they are not calling for a stop to it altogether.

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When the virulently anti-immigrant Pegida movement takes

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to the streets, as here, there tends to be angry counter-demonstrations.

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There is a huge amount of tension here tonight.

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Traditionally in Germany there is a rift between activists

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on the right on the left but the migrant question is pushing

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A far cry from the ordered country Germany likes to be,

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the Merkel Government has been accused of failing its people,

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opening its doors to over a million newcomers, without considering

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If a challenge is huge, usually it'll trigger

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We'll have to address them and the first step in addressing

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We will do it along with other European partners.

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Another huge challenge for Germany is how to integrate

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Language classes are a start but there's a concern amongst

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Germany's migrant communities, recently arrived and

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well-established, that the criminal behaviour of some, will

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This man has lived here in Berlin for 30 years.

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TRANSLATION: In one night in Cologne, Germany's welcoming

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There is a new kind of racism here, affecting all of us

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But I'm optimistic Angela Merkel can work this out.

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"We can do this" said Mrs Merkel a few months ago.

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The migrant question has thrown the EU into crisis and even this,

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its most powerful nation, is struggling to find a way out.

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The Crown Prosecution Service is to review its file on the death

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of Poppi Worthington following the findings

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of a High Court family judge this week.

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The judge ruled that the one-year-old girl had been

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sexually assaulted by her father before her death at home

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Her father, Paul Worthington, was never charged with any crime,

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Dylan Seabridge was an eight-year-old boy who died

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of scurvy in 2011 in rural Pembrokeshire.

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Scurvy is a disease rarely seen in the UK these days,

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and is associated with a very poor diet and a deficiency of Vitamin C.

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A serious case review into the circumstances of his death

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has still not been published, but the BBC has seen a draft version

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which says the authorities were aware of concerns over a year

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Our social affairs correspondent Alison Holt has the story.

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This is rural Pembrokeshire, with farms and occasional houses

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It's the area where Dylan Seabridge lived, his home at the end

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He was invisible to the authorities, according to the draft

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of the serious case review leaked to BBC Wales.

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It says they knew so little about Dylan, it was impossible

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The inquest into his death heard although he was registered

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with a GP, no record was found of him seeing a doctor or dentist

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from 13 months old, until he died of scurvy, aged eight.

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Scurvy is a disease that develops as a consequence of not having

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Dr John Puntis is an expert in children's nutrition.

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He says scurvy is easily treatable if identified.

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I think this child would have been very miserable, very uncomfortable.

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I think he would have had pain in his limbs and joints.

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He was probably able to do very little for himself at the end.

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Dylan's parents were charged with neglect after his

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The Crown Prosecution Service dropped the charges in November

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2014, deciding it wasn't in the public interest to continue.

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At the inquest into their son's death, his parents disputed that

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Dylan had scurvy and they also say he was not invisible

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The draft serious case review details a complicated story.

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It says Dylan's parents were in a lengthy legal dispute

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with neighbouring Ceredigion Council, after his mother,

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a teacher, injured herself at one of their schools.

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During the case, a lawyer and headteacher, concerned

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by the mother's mental health, alerted the authorities

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That was a year before Dylan's death.

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The report says he was not known to Pembrokeshire education officials

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The report concludes that the laws and the regulations that surround

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home education in Wales need strengthening as

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It goes as far as to say that existing regulations are inadequate

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The former Ceredigion Council lawyer who wanted checks made can't

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understand why four years after Dylan's death, no official

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It seems clear that nobody is interested in anybody being told

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In statements, Ceredigion Council insists it provided information

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promptly for the unpublished serious case review.

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Pembrokeshire Council says the review process was suspended

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during the lengthy criminal investigation and that system

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changes mean a different type of review is now under way.

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The Welsh government is due to publish new guidance

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Alison Holt, BBC News, Pembrokeshire.

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The Defence Secretary Michael Fallon is claiming that the UK's Trident

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nuclear weapons system has "never been needed more than it is today".

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Mr Fallon was speaking on a visit to the Faslane naval base

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in Scotland, home to the fleet of submarines which carry the missiles.

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There's intense political controversy about the government's

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plans for renewing Trident, as our Scotland editor

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Deep inside HMS Vigilant, the control room is the heart

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The crew boast their vessel is more complex than the space shuttle.

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But as you can see, the technology is not exactly cutting edge.

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Designed back in the '80s, and it shows.

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Four new subs need to be commissioned soon if they are to

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Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has suggested those vessels need not

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carry nuclear weapons - an idea met with scorn here.

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If this submarine did not have nuclear warheads it would not

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So it wouldn't be at sea doing sea patrols.

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Could you replace the nuclear warheads with some kind

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of conventional weapon and then have it as an offensive capability?

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There is no policy for that and I do not know what you would

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Each sub can carry up to 16 Trident missiles,

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This is what the UK's nuclear button looks like.

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Wisely, they're not letting me hold the real one,

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but if the Prime Minister ever were to give the order to fire,

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it's from here, via a trigger just like this, that the Trident nuclear

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Labour are reviewing their nuclear weapons policy and didn't

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While the Defence Secretary Michael Fallon dropped in to visit Vigilant.

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The nuclear deterrent has never been needed more than it is today.

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It's quite wrong to hark back to the Cold War and say we didn't

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use it then and we don't need it now.

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In fact, we've never needed it more than we need it today.

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All the nuclear subs are based at Faslane in Scotland,

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where the political argument looks rather different.

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Scottish Labour are opposed to renewing Trident and the SNP have

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long wanted to get rid of all nuclear weapons.

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Remember, if these nuclear weapons were used, we would wipe out swathes

:27:49.:27:52.

of civilisation, but I also have a very practical objection.

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You know, we see conventional defence forces starved of resources.

:27:57.:27:59.

We've lost a significant number of frontline troops in recent years,

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while the defence budget is skewed evermore towards

:28:05.:28:07.

There has to be a parliamentary vote on Trident renewal

:28:08.:28:13.

The government say they're confident of winning,

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whatever Labour does, but won't say when that

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The South African rhino is under increasing threat from poachers -

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driven by growing demand for rhino horns from buyers in Asia.

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In 2007, it's thought 13 rhinos were killed by poachers in South

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By last year that number had risen sharply, to nearly 1200.

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One rhino breeder has come up with somewhat controversial

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solution, removing the horns himself, and selling them -

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trying to put the poachers out of business - as our correspondent

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Stalking the rhino - not to kill, but to save lives.

:28:52.:29:00.

They're darted, sedated, then eased to the ground.

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They are about to remove part of the valuable horn which poachers

:29:04.:29:09.

are prepared to kill for, threatening to make

:29:10.:29:11.

There is no nerve supply to the part of the horn we are trimming.

:29:12.:29:22.

Now the ban on selling it locally has been lifted in South Africa.

:29:23.:29:32.

Demand may be limited here, but it's a first step to global

:29:33.:29:35.

trade, and this is the man who has pushed for it.

:29:36.:29:38.

We are supplying that demand with dead rhino.

:29:39.:29:42.

We could very easily supply that demand from live rhino.

:29:43.:29:47.

Are you a businessman or a conservationist first?

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The fact that I have bred 750 rhinos, does that make me

:29:50.:29:54.

But his critics fear relaxing the rules in South Africa won't stop

:29:55.:30:01.

those preying on these creatures, because of a huge demand for rhino

:30:02.:30:05.

There's no proposal on the table that shows if there is any legal

:30:06.:30:11.

trade at all how it's going to be controlled,

:30:12.:30:14.

how we will stop that legal horn going into the illegal markets.

:30:15.:30:19.

We see the situation in Vietnam is very serious.

:30:20.:30:21.

The rhino horn has ended up in China.

:30:22.:30:24.

Those countries at the moment are not controlling their illegal

:30:25.:30:27.

Once the rhino horn is removed it will be added to a secret stockpile.

:30:28.:30:36.

Security is so tight we can't even film that,

:30:37.:30:38.

Just to give you some idea, one kilo of rhino horn on the black

:30:39.:30:44.

market is worth about ?42,000, so you can understand why it's such

:30:45.:30:47.

As the horn is weighed ready to be taken away,

:30:48.:30:54.

one of the biggest debates in conservation rages on.

:30:55.:30:59.

We'll have reaction to the Litvinenko enquirer tonight. George

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Galloway will be among us, among others, as he changed his view of Mr

:31:18.:31:22.

Putin? Join me now on BBC Two, 11pm in Scotland.

:31:23.:31:24.

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