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We're in Wembley where the biggest debate of this EU referendum | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
Six prominent Remain and Leave campaigners, | :00:11. | :00:19. | |
an audience of up to 6,000 voters debating the economy, Britain's | :00:20. | :00:21. | |
Your campaign hasn't been project fear, it's been project hate, as far | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
I think it's perfectly reasonable to ask people... | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
to ask people whether they'd rather proceed on the basis of Government | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
promises on immigration or whether they would rather | :00:36. | :00:37. | |
There were repeated clashes on whether leaving the EU would lead | :00:38. | :00:45. | |
As long as we're shackled to a failing Eurozone, | :00:46. | :00:52. | |
libel to bail out after bail out, we will not succeed. | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
They haven't told us how many jobs would be lost. | :00:58. | :01:00. | |
They haven't told us how long new trade deals would take. | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
They haven't told us how big the hit will be. | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
I don't think that's good enough when That's good enough when you're | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
We'll have reaction away from Wembley to see how the debate's | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
In his first interview, the husband of the MP | :01:15. | :01:21. | |
Jo Cox says his wife died because of her politics. | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
She was a politician and she had very strong political views and I | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
believe she was killed because of those views. | :01:29. | :01:39. | |
Behind the smiles - the father, who murdered his | :01:40. | :01:41. | |
daughter in a fit of rage, jailed for a minimum of 23 years. | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
Major Tim Peake on returning to earth and his message | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
In football, Northern Ireland lose their match to Germany, | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
On Euro 2016 Sportsday we will have further reaction to that narrow | :01:57. | :02:09. | |
defeat at the hands of Germany here in Paris. The Northern Ireland fans | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
say they're not going home just yet. Good evening from Wembley Arena, | :02:12. | :02:34. | |
where 6,000 voters have been attending the biggest debate of this | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
EU referendum campaign, Tonight's debate focused on three | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
areas - the economy, immigration There were some hard-hitting | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
exchanges, especially on immigration, but time and again | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
the two sides accused each other of misleading voters on some | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
of the biggest questions of the day. Our political editor, | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
Laura Kuenssberg, Big ideas, big characters, big rows. | :02:57. | :02:57. | |
Now, time for the biggest debate. APPLAUSE Tonight, for both sides, | :02:58. | :03:25. | |
it's so clearly really mattered. You know, sometimes voting doesn't make | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
much difference, on Thursday it really does. You will decide who | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
makes decisions about the future of this country. Even those who want us | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
to leave admit that it's a big gamble. If there's one thing you | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
should remember when you go to vote, it's this - if we as a country | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
decide to quit, we're out for good. There's no going back. First, how | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
the country makes a living. This country receives about a fifth of | :03:55. | :03:59. | |
Germany's entire car manufacturing output. 820,000 vehicles a year. Do | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
you seriously suppose that they are going to be so insane as to allow | :04:05. | :04:09. | |
tariffs to be imposed between Britain and Germany? I'm here | :04:10. | :04:20. | |
representing workers tonight. Union reps from BMW, Ford nicksan, you | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
name, it across the manufacturing sector they are saying we cannot | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
afford to take this gamble. All the Remain side have to talk about is | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
project Fear. We are the fifth biggest economy in the world. We | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
will be able to negotiate free trade once we're free of the European | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
Union base. They have done a terrible job negotiated free trade | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
for us. The sharpest clash between two Tories. Michael Gove say it is | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
would mean bumps in the road. He can't guarantee people won't lose | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
their jobs. I cannot guarantee that every person currently in work in | :04:56. | :04:57. | |
their current job will keep their job. Boris Johnson said, will there | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
be job losses? Is there might or might not. That is not good enough. | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
APPLAUSE. That is not good enough. APPLAUSE. I think it's very | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
surprising... It hasn't taken them long. Boris. It hasn't taken them | :05:12. | :05:18. | |
long. How many jobs will go, Boris They would say they would have a | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
positive and pay he reel Octoberic case they are back to project fear | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
It's not unreasonable for a mum and dad worried about paying the bills | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
to ask what is your plan. A slogan is not a plan. Then immigration and | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
identity. My family and had first-hand experience recently with | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
the NHS how would it manage if they left the EU giving the UK's ability | :05:43. | :05:49. | |
to train doctors and An Australian style nurses. Points-based system | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
much we get the people we need for the NHS and all our other businesses | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
and services. The only way you can do that is to vote leave. Have a | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
fair immigration policy it should not be a free-for-all. David Cameron | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
deserves credit for the deal he negotiated with the EU. What it | :06:08. | :06:14. | |
means... What did he LAUGHTER. Say? What it means, is you pay in before | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
you can take out. You have to wait four years. . We should do tonight | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
in a discussion about immigration is celebrate immigrants and | :06:24. | :06:25. | |
immigration. Everything they do for our country. I speak entirely | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
personally. They are - my family, my family has benefitted massively from | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
immigration. The problem is this. You might start off with plaid | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
toweds saying how wonderful immigration is, your campaign hasn't | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
been project fear, it's been project hate as far as immigration's | :06:45. | :06:46. | |
concerned. APPLAUSE. Again, the In camp | :06:47. | :06:51. | |
targeting Boris Johnson. This time over Turkey. You're telling lies you | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
are scaring people you have used taxpayers money to put out an | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
election leaflet that says Turkey is set to join and there's a map. This | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
map shows in red Turkey, butlet only country you named in this map are | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
Syria and Iraq. That's scaremongering, Boris. You should be | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
ashamed. I would quite like the real David Cameron to step forward and | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
tell us what the policy on Turkey is. As a young working-class man I | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
feel at the back of the queue for entry level jobs, housing and public | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
services. How many people each year can the UK reasonably cope with? You | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
don't fund schools and hospitals and you don't control immigration by | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
crashing the economy and that's what leaving the EU would do. That just | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
is completely nonsense. What we will be able to do is to manage the | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
numbers of people who are coming to this country so that we can be fair | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
to those who come here and fair to those who already live here. Then | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
almost a final words after months of clashes. I know that the EU isn't | :08:00. | :08:06. | |
perfect, but the benefits far outweigh any costs. The Britain that | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
I know, the Britain that I love, works with its friends and | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
neighbours. It doesn't walk away from them. If we vote Leave and take | :08:14. | :08:20. | |
back control, I believe that this Thursday can be our country's | :08:21. | :08:23. | |
Independence Day. APPLAUSE. An ovation for that | :08:24. | :08:30. | |
promise after a bruising debate. One day left after weeks and weeks, few | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
now can say the arguments have not been heard. Laura Kuenssberg, BBC | :08:36. | :08:37. | |
News, Wembley. Representatives of the Leave | :08:38. | :08:45. | |
and Remain campaigns are trying to make sure that tonight's debate | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
is interpreted to They're in the so-called "spin room" | :08:48. | :08:49. | |
with broadcasters and other media Our deputy political editor, | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
John Pienaar, is with them. John, what do you make of the case | :08:56. | :09:03. | |
and the claims being made by both sides? Well you can get a sense | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
looking around here. This place is very, very busy. Around me you can | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
see the journalists and writers from online, broadcasters and newspapers | :09:15. | :09:17. | |
pounding out their copy of what they made of the evening. On either side | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
you see the message managers, weaving their tales, spinning their | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
tales. Look over there. Steve Hilton, former adviser to David | :09:26. | :09:27. | |
Cameron. He is the one who claimed that Cameron was up against it | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
today, trying to hide the fact he was losing the argument on | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
migration. That he'd been told years ago he would never reach that target | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
of migration below 100,000, but ploughing on anyway. Down here, you | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
can see there Lisa, in the Shadow Cabinet. Over there Chuka Umunna, a | :09:44. | :09:50. | |
senior Labour figure. They say the Remain side had a good night. Lisa | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
said they thought she had never been so confident. It's difficult on the | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
issue of migration. They thought they had the Leave side on the back | :10:01. | :10:03. | |
foot. What you get agreements on, it was a real fight here tonight. A | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
really rather even battle. Each side happy with the way they... | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
Altogether and the copy that is being bashed out by the journalists | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
at each of these tables and laptops getting their copy ready for the | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
morning and overnight. They feel there is a true battle going on. The | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
outcome very much in the balance after a truly passionate difficult | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
campaign for so many of reasons. With a certain amount of tragedy | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
intruding into the proceedings in the way we've seen, it makes it an | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
unpredictable outcome. It's truly in the balance. But on the Remain side | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
they now think they are very much in this fight the way they were | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
beginning to get dispondent not so long ago. They are becoming | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
gradually more confident. Interesting, John, thank you very | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
much. John Pienaar there in that spin room for us in Wembley a short | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
distance away. John there with the view as he see it is from the Leave | :10:55. | :10:56. | |
and Remain campaigns. The view there from the Leave | :10:57. | :11:04. | |
and Remain campaigns, but what did those in tonight's | :11:05. | :11:06. | |
audience here at Wembley make My colleague, Reeta Chakrabarti, | :11:07. | :11:08. | |
is with some of those who asked Thank you. I'm with four of the | :11:09. | :11:17. | |
people who kick-started the different sections of the debate. | :11:18. | :11:19. | |
The first of all, Maxine, you are a Leave supporter. You run a small | :11:20. | :11:22. | |
business and you feel stifled by EU legislation. You asked what was the | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
benefit to you in staying in the EU. Were you persuaded there are | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
benefits? No, not at all. I was actually quite disappointed with | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
what was actually said from the Remain side this evening. What about | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
from the Leave side what did they say to you that you thought, yes? | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
Lots of positives. Things came about 60% of our regulation comes from the | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
EU. For me, as a small business owner, I know, I've suffered ford | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
it. So have many other small businesses. Small business do make | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
up the majority of employers in the country. For me, there is only one | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
choice really that is to vote Leave and do the right thing on Thursday. | :12:05. | :12:09. | |
OK. Miranda you asked a question on the economy. You worried there would | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
be weaker employment and social rights if we leave. What did you | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
think of the responses you got? I was very concerned from the Leave | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
side they didn't address the issues regarding employment and social | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
rights today. Yes, they made the case that we had the Sex | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
Discrimination Act and the Equal Pay Act put into place by national | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
Government, but they didn't talk about the fact that Governments of | :12:34. | :12:37. | |
both the main political parties have fought tooth and nail for rights | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
against agency workers, fixed time workers, part-time workers, equality | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
directives. If we leave the EU they will not have to adhere to any of | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
that any more. In the modern-day, governments have not protected our | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
rights. I'm very concerned that leaving the EU would mean a | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
weakening and a slippery slope in terms 67 employment and social | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
rights. I'm not convinced by the Leave answer. You are a Leave | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
supporter. You wanted to know how many people each year can the UK | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
reasonably cope with. Did you think you you got an answer? I don't think | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
I was given an exact answer by either side of the campaign tonight. | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
What did you think of the arguments made? I think that the leave | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
campaign put forward a persuasive argue up. They told me how I would | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
feel like I wasn't at the back of the queue for public services entry | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
level jobs and housing and how we do better. The remain campaign dodged | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
the question and didn't give me a clear answer on any of the points I | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
raised. Which was very disappointing. I will be voting | :13:38. | :13:41. | |
leave. OK. Alex. You asked the last question which was about Britain's | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
place in the world. Suggesting that the EU has helped to Foster European | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
peace. Did you hear anything to change your mind No, I didn't. I | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
wasn't impressed with the answers on the leave side of the panel. I don't | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
think there has been positive dialogue in the entire debate. There | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
is a positive story to tell about the EU's role in fostering peace. | :14:03. | :14:11. | |
They resorted to the same EU army we can block that as members of the EU | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
and put it down to Nato. EU and NATO play a complimentary roles. Thank | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
you very much, Alex. Thank you of course to all of you. So some widely | :14:25. | :14:32. | |
diverging views here. Deeply held. Back to you. | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
Laura Kuenssberg, our political editor, is with me here | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
Both sides felt it had been evenly balanced. That was John's take? Both | :14:41. | :14:49. | |
sides will feel that they had a decent outing tonight. I think the | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
Remain team on stage tonight maybe answereden a question that has been | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
asked a lot in this campaign - where is the passion for staying in the | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
European Union? I think we saw that team with new faces to many people, | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of London, the Scottish Tory leader, | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
Ruth Davidson,ing together as a team to make arguments for the European | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
Union rather than making excuses for it. That's a criticism that has been | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
levelled at the In camp throughout the past few weeks. At the same | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
time, that big ovation at the end, audience members on their feet, that | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
was for Boris Johnson and his promise of an Independence Day on | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
the 24th June if we were to vote to leave the European Union. There is | :15:32. | :15:36. | |
no question really, tonight, as throughout the campaign, the | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
emotional enthusiasm that, that does matter in politics, is on that side | :15:40. | :15:43. | |
of the argument. Laura, we'll talk again a little later. Thanks very | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
much for now. Laura Kuenssberg there. More from Wembley later. | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
More from Wembley a little later in the programme and much more, | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
of course, on our website with analysis of the campaigns | :15:54. | :15:55. | |
and what they're saying about the central themes | :15:56. | :15:57. | |
But for now, it's back to Fiona in the studio. | :15:58. | :16:05. | |
Let's take a look at some of the day's other news. | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
The husband of the Labour MP Jo Cox, who was attacked and killed | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
in her constituency last week, has given his first interview, | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
saying he believes she died for her political views. | :16:16. | :16:17. | |
Brendan Cox said his wife had been worried about the tone | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
of the political debate in the UK and feared that it was sowing | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
He's been speaking to our political editor, Laura Kuenssberg. | :16:24. | :16:30. | |
Obviously, we never anticipated anything like this, but then | :16:31. | :16:39. | |
the public reaction has been off the scale and the two things that | :16:40. | :16:42. | |
I've been very focused on is - how do we support and protect | :16:43. | :16:50. | |
the children and how do we make sure that something | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
And, what the public support and outpouring of love around this | :16:56. | :17:05. | |
does is it also helps the children see that what they're feeling | :17:06. | :17:13. | |
That the grief they feel isn't abnormal. | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
That they feel it more acutely and more painfully | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
and more personally, but that actually their mother | :17:22. | :17:24. | |
was someone who was loved by lots of people and that, | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
therefore, it's OK to be upset and it's OK for them to cry and be | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
sad about it and the reason I wanted to speak today was just to thank | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
the public who have been incredible in response to this. | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
What will you tell your children about | :17:42. | :17:43. | |
I think that one of the things from what happened, in terms | :17:44. | :17:56. | |
of the public reaction, is that she's been seen as a symbol | :17:57. | :18:04. | |
A sense of creating more compassion and more love in the world. | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
And the thing that I don't want to lose is that she was also their mum. | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
So I want to protect the personal memory as well as the more political | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
memory and the symbolism that she's taken on. | :18:23. | :18:25. | |
Was she worried about our current political culture, do you think? | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
Yeah, very worried, and from left and right. | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
I think she was very worried that the language was coarsening, | :18:33. | :18:37. | |
that people were being driven to take more extreme positions. | :18:38. | :18:44. | |
I think she worried that we were entering an age | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
that we hadn't seen maybe since the 1930s of people feeling | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
insecure, for lots of different reasons, for economic reasons | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
or security reasons and then populous politicians, | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
whether that's Trump in the US or whoever else, exploiting that | :19:07. | :19:11. | |
and driving communities to hate each other. | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
This, of course, has happened at a time when Britain's engaged | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
in a big national conversation about our place in the world | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
We know that she was clearly for staying in the European Union, | :19:22. | :19:29. | |
but what did she make of how the conversation's been conducted? | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
I think, as everybody knows, that Jo was a passionate | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
pro-European and she definitely worried about the tone | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
Not that it's not a legitimate debate to have and that there aren't | :19:40. | :19:45. | |
completely legitimate views on both sides of the debate, | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
but more about the tone of whipping up fears and whipping up hatred. | :19:49. | :19:56. | |
Do you worry now about people using her in the political debate? | :19:57. | :19:59. | |
She was a politician and she had very strong political views | :20:00. | :20:06. | |
and I believe she was killed because of those views. | :20:07. | :20:12. | |
She would want to stand up for those in death as much as she did in life. | :20:13. | :20:20. | |
I will remember somebody who had incredible energy, | :20:21. | :20:27. | |
Somebody who would have no regrets about how she lived her life. | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
So I'll remember so much about her but, most of al,l | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
I will just remember that she met the world with love and... | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
Both love for her children, love in our family, but also love | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
She just approached things with a spirit. | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
She wasn't perfect at all, you know, but she just wanted | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
to make the world a better place and to contribute | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
That was Brendan Cox speaking to our political | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
A brief look at some of the day's other news stories. | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
The International Olympic Committee has ruled that competitors | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
from Russia and Kenya must have extra checks, before they can take | :21:21. | :21:23. | |
part in the Rio Olympics because of fears about doping. | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
Last week, the governing body of world athletics, the IAAF, | :21:27. | :21:28. | |
banned track-and-field athletes from competing as part | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
Sir Cliff Richard has said he may sue South Yorkshire Police | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
and the BBC for the way they pursued and reported sex abuse | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
He says his health has been damaged by the stress. | :21:43. | :21:48. | |
The case against him was dropped earlier this month. | :21:49. | :21:50. | |
In a statement, the BBC apologised for any distress caused | :21:51. | :21:53. | |
but said it had "applied normal editorial judgments" to the story. | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
A former Congolese vice-president, who was found guilty | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
of crimes against humanity, has been sentenced | :22:01. | :22:03. | |
Jean-Pierre Bemba was found guilty by the International Criminal Court | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
in the Hague of failing to stop his troops from killing | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
and raping civilians in the Central African Republic. | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
A man has been jailed for life for murdering his six-year-old | :22:16. | :22:17. | |
daughter, just months after she was returned to his care | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
Ben Butler attacked his daughter Ellie, leaving her with | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
He'd been convicted of shaking Ellie as a baby, but that was later | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
quashed and a family court judge returned her to his care. | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
That decision has now been criticised in a serious case review, | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
as our social affairs correspondent, Alison Holt, reports. | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
This is the family life Ben Butler fought for. | :22:43. | :22:45. | |
And the life he destroyed in a fit of rage. | :22:46. | :22:52. | |
Six-year-old Ellie was living with a man on a short fuse | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
as an accidentally recorded phone call demonstrated. | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
Don't you ask me to do something which you ain't (BLEEP) done | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
The film also shows Ellie with a black eye, which Butler | :23:02. | :23:09. | |
Weeks later, in October 2013, he battered Ellie to death, | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
Jennie Gray worked opposite the Old Bailey, yards from the court | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
CCTV footage shows her rushing home to Sutton where they tried to stage | :23:20. | :23:24. | |
things to look like an accident before sending their younger | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
child to find Ellie and finally calling 999. | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
JENNIE GRAY: My daughter is not breathing properly. | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
Jennie Gray is shouting with Ben Butler in the background. | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
OPERATOR: OK, OK, darling, I'm helping you now. | :23:40. | :23:48. | |
It's a 15 minute call in which Jennie Gray is also | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
instructed in how to resuscitate Ellie. | :23:52. | :23:53. | |
OPERATOR: 30 times you need to pump the chest. | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
JENNIE GRAY: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 , 6, 7 , 8 , 9.. | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
OPERATOR: OK, darling, you're doing really well. | :24:02. | :24:04. | |
Detectives soon worked out that Ellie had been dead for some time. | :24:05. | :24:06. | |
When you realise that at the time the ambulance was called, | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
it's give or take two hours after she first knew. | :24:10. | :24:11. | |
In 2007, Ben Butler was convicted of shaking six-week-old Ellie. | :24:12. | :24:24. | |
That was quashed on a legal technicality and Ellie eventually | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
The couple even went on television to complain of the injustice. | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
It took to pretty much last month to clear my name completely. | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
Jennie, had you ever any doubts about Ben? | :24:39. | :24:40. | |
I think they're as difficult as any case that a judge | :24:41. | :24:46. | |
Sir Mark Headly was one of the Appeal Court judges | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
who quashed Ben Butler's 2007 criminal conviction | :24:52. | :24:53. | |
He can't talk about that directly, but it was the family court that | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
He's told the BBC that judges there faced the most | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
They're decided in a highly emotive context. | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
They're decided in circumstances where the judge has to make | :25:10. | :25:11. | |
If you get it wrong, either way, there are very serious consequences. | :25:12. | :25:22. | |
But in the family court, Mrs Justice Hogg went as far | :25:23. | :25:24. | |
as to exonerate Ben Butler, saying it was her joy to return | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
Until then, her maternal grandfather had looked after her. | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
I always said to the Judge - one day you all may have blood | :25:35. | :25:41. | |
on your hands with regards to my granddaughter, | :25:42. | :25:43. | |
The court ordered that all files on the family, | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
held by police, health, schools and social workers should | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
clearly say that Ben Butler had been exonerated and the couple | :25:54. | :25:57. | |
or their solicitor could serve that order on any professional | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
At Ellie's school they found she was often absent | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
and when challenged her parents were evasive. | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
The head teacher says normally they would have | :26:11. | :26:12. | |
There was no local authority involvement with Ellie | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
because of the family court judgment from several years before. | :26:18. | :26:20. | |
Therefore, all we do was treat the issue as an attendance issue. | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
The official review into the case concludes that the court ruling gave | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
Butler the upper hand, making it difficult for others | :26:32. | :26:33. | |
to protect a little girl, described by her teachers | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
A British man has been accused of trying to kill the presumptive US | :26:36. | :26:46. | |
Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump. | :26:47. | :26:48. | |
Michael Sandford, who's 20 and from Dorking, | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
is alleged to have tried to grab a police officer's gun at a Trump | :26:52. | :26:54. | |
Our North America correspondent, James Cook, reports. | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
Was this the rally when Donald Trump came close to death? | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
A turn of the head gives just a hint that something is wrong. | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
In the crowds, say prosecutors, this man. | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
Michael Sanford was trying to wrestle a gun from a police | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
The Secret Service say Mr Sanford told them he'd been planning | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
to murder the Republican for a year, and expected to die | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
He had reportedly come to the US to be with a girlfriend, | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
but had ended up unemployed and living in his car having | :27:34. | :27:35. | |
In Las Vegas yesterday, the 20-year-old appeared in court, | :27:36. | :27:41. | |
giving no explanation for what happened at this hotel. | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
Trembling and shackled, he made no plea and was refused bail. | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
The day before the attack, Michael Sanford is alleged to have | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
come here to this shooting range, a short distance from the hotel | :27:53. | :27:54. | |
Apparently to learn how to fire a gun for the first time. | :27:55. | :28:04. | |
In Michael Sanford's hometown of Dorking | :28:05. | :28:06. | |
Friends and family spoke of a polite boys who like playing with robots. | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
His father said his son was autistic with no interest at all | :28:13. | :28:15. | |
He must have been blackmailed or put up to it, he said. | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
I did know him very well, but he seemed sweet. | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
It's not nice thinking that someone, you know, up the road from you has | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
Donald Trump has been threatened on the campaign trail before. | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
The presidential race of 2016 has been fringed with violence. | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
Clashes are common, and many Americans are worried | :28:38. | :28:39. | |
about where this election, and their country, is heading. | :28:40. | :28:49. | |
The British astronaut, Tim Peake, has said he'd go back | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
He was giving his first news conference after touching back down | :28:53. | :28:57. | |
on earth on Saturday, after a six-month mission | :28:58. | :28:59. | |
He also had this message for the hundreds of thousands | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
of schoolchildren who've been following his trip: "You can do | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
Our science editor, David Shukman, reports from Cologne. | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
Smiling, relaxed and walking steadily at Europe's | :29:12. | :29:18. | |
Tim Peake is making a rapid recovery from his time in space. | :29:19. | :29:23. | |
And, if you did it again, what does your wife think of that? | :29:24. | :29:31. | |
I would do it again in a heartbeat and I can say that happily | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
because I've already spoke to my wife about it. | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
Only three days ago, I watched his dramatic | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
His body, weak from six months without weight, | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
he was feeling dizzy, but he's now improving. | :29:46. | :29:47. | |
Yeah, I'm feeling a lot better than I did on Saturday lunch | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
So what was it like for him, hurtling down from space | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
To look out the window and see earth approaching at 100 kilometers, | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
in what looked like a fairly uncontrolled attitude, | :30:01. | :30:02. | |
was really quite surprising and you really get a strong | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
sensation that you are just falling | :30:06. | :30:08. | |
He's always wanted his mission to inspire children and watching | :30:09. | :30:19. | |
excited was his old school in West Sussex. | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
You're looking at a boy who went to Westbourne Primary School, | :30:23. | :30:24. | |
who left school at the age of 19, with three below-average A-levels, | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
and I've just got back from a six month mission to space. | :30:28. | :30:30. | |
So my message to them is - look, don't let anybody tell | :30:31. | :30:33. | |
It's really exciting and we're really all really proud of him | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
for what he's done and he's inspired us to all do what we want. | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
It's been his dream since he was like our age. | :30:46. | :30:49. | |
During his time in space, more than a million children took | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
part in projects linked to his mission and many | :30:56. | :30:58. | |
"Welcome home, Tim, how was it, mate?" | :30:59. | :31:03. | |
Football and Northern Ireland have lost 1-0 to Germany | :31:04. | :31:14. | |
But they have made it through to the final 16, | :31:15. | :31:19. | |
Northern Ireland had its heart set on something special in Paris. Their | :31:20. | :31:33. | |
romance of their story has made an impression. Win or draw against the | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
world champions they will be certain of staying. Early on it became clear | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
how difficult that would be. Michael McGovern was solid. If Michael | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
O'Neill felt the noise was relentless, so was the pressure. | :31:47. | :31:50. | |
Eventually something had to give. After half an hour. Gomis gave | :31:51. | :31:58. | |
Germany the goal they deserved. Northern Ireland was almost | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
mesmerised by their movement. Everyone except McGovern who got to | :32:02. | :32:05. | |
this ball even as the net began to if flinch. Germany continued to be | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
from yous sfrated as Northern Ireland gave every ounce of effort | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
to hold on to a narrow defeat. We hung in there. We defended great. | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
Michael had a fantastic night in goal. He's had a fantastic | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
tournament. And, as I say, we have given ourself-a chance now of | :32:23. | :32:25. | |
obviously getting the opportunity to play in the knock-out stages of the | :32:26. | :32:27. | |
competition and I think what we've done over the three games we deserve | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
that chance. O'Neill's side have come a long way in this tournament | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
their fans fans, many who stayed behind after the final whistle, | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
don't want this aventure to end it wasn't a fairytale upset it hasn't | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
dampened the mood among the Northern Irish fans. It's not over yet. If | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
results go their way they could join England and Wales in the lasts 16. | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
These fans didn't have to wait long as the Czech Republic's failure to | :32:55. | :32:58. | |
beat Turkey in the late kick-off sent Northern Ireland through. | :32:59. | :33:01. | |
Another bit of history to celebrate. This is quite a remarkable | :33:02. | :33:10. | |
achievement by Northern Ireland who began the tournament as 500-1 | :33:11. | :33:15. | |
outsiders. They defied the odds to join England and Wales in the last | :33:16. | :33:18. | |
16. Ultimately, it was their goal difference that confirmed Thai | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
progress this evening. For that they had to thank their goal cope, they | :33:23. | :33:27. | |
will play either the hosts France in Lyon or Wales in Paris for a place | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
in the quarter-finals. Katie, in Paris, thank you. | :33:32. | :33:34. | |
Now, with more on the reaction to tonight's big EU debate | :33:35. | :33:37. | |
Earlier on, we heard the reaction from some | :33:38. | :33:44. | |
of the audience of 6,000 people, here at the Wembley Arena, | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
who heard the Leave and Remain camps questioned about a range of issues | :33:49. | :33:55. | |
including the economy, immigration and Britain's place in the world. | :33:56. | :34:02. | |
But how did the debate go down in people's homes? | :34:03. | :34:04. | |
Our home editor, Mark Easton, has been in Solihull this evening. | :34:05. | :34:14. | |
In a showroom we have assembled a small group of west Midlanders who | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
we first heard discussing the referendum back in early February | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
before they had made their minds up. Yeah, this campaign began in the | :34:25. | :34:27. | |
depths of winter. It will end in what should be the height of summer. | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
We have invited our seasoned campaign watchers to judge the last | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
of the big TV referendum debates and offer a view from the sofa. We | :34:37. | :34:42. | |
encouraged our TV audience to respond to what they saw and heard. | :34:43. | :34:49. | |
If you look at it, the stay campaign look the most credible people there. | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
They look organised. They look, especially, Khan, he's like a good | :34:56. | :34:58. | |
talker. He is a very good speaker to the public. Law school training. . | :34:59. | :35:04. | |
Exactly. You think - law school training. You're trying to lie. The | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
fact they have Boris Johnson up there, the way he looks, the way he | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
presents himself. He pulls paper - He know what is he's talking about. | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
He does look crazy. He should wash his hair. That is what people love | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
about him. Our jury found itself swayed both ways as it listened to | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
arguments about the economy and then immigration. If it was just about | :35:29. | :35:32. | |
the immigration, leave. Leave because what's the point - It's | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
massive part. I agree with that. Yes. If it was just about | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
immigration. Why can't we stay, but say, right, we will stay - | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
Negotiate. But we can't keep letting this many people in or. We need to | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
vet the people that are coming in. They won't. The law states at the | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
moment there has been freedom. Equal. One minute you think Steve, | :35:53. | :35:59. | |
the next leave, our jury complained as the jury came to a close. You | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
should have a third option. Sit on the fence. Like a tick box. I'll | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
stay for that. Leave for that. Leave for that. War. If we need you. | :36:09. | :36:17. | |
Otherwise we just don't need you. With just a day to go before the | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
polls open, we asked our panel to conduct one final task. Come up with | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
one word to describe the last five months of campaigning? Investment, | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
contradicting, risky and scaremongering. The time for talking | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
is nearly done, the time for a decision almost upon us. No-one | :36:37. | :36:43. | |
knows which way it'll go. Mark Easton, BBC News. | :36:44. | :36:50. | |
An interesting taste of the reaction there. One set, but lots to come. | :36:51. | :37:01. | |
The kinds of issues that were causing challenges for the | :37:02. | :37:03. | |
politicians on both sides, right at the start of the campaign, are still | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
the ones causing challenges here this evening? They are. I think, in | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
a sense, the campaign hasn't had one big transformational moment. There | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
are three things that have run all the the way through. It's been bad | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
tempered. Almost from day one, bad temper and more and more bruising as | :37:22. | :37:27. | |
time went on. In terms of the arguments themselves, the main | :37:28. | :37:30. | |
clashes have been the economy and on immigration. In terms ever beyond | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
the politicians, those are the three things they have tangled up on time | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
and time again. Something else, particularly has crept in, very | :37:39. | :37:41. | |
importantly in the last couple of weeks. As the public have taken hold | :37:42. | :37:44. | |
of this debate it's also really become more and more about identity. | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
That, I think, is why, for so many people, this is such an important | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
decision, but also such an agonising one. Another transition in the | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
campaign, late on, we can't now say that people don't have a grasp of | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
what's at stake because all along, in the Earl why I stages, people | :38:03. | :38:04. | |
were debating about what this referendum was about. What's clear | :38:05. | :38:08. | |
tonight, certainly from the questions and from some of the | :38:09. | :38:11. | |
answers, we are now on the eve of the last day of campaigning, people | :38:12. | :38:14. | |
realise what's at stake here. They do. It matters so much more than the | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
careers of the politicians we have seen on the platform tonight or any | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
other platform or any other debates throughout this campaign. You know, | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
this isn't just about one decision. It's not just about one month, one | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
year, one Prime Minister, one parliamentary term. This is a very | :38:31. | :38:35. | |
rare thing. It's a democratic decision we're all being asked to | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
make that will decide a lot for the country for decades to come. Our | :38:39. | :38:41. | |
place in the world. What happens to the economy. What kind of country do | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
we really want to be? This referendum, because of the scale of | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
that question, has gone way beyond the traditional party lines, the | :38:51. | :38:53. | |
traditional tribes we saw tonight people from different parties all | :38:54. | :38:56. | |
mixing up and on different sides of the argument. In a sense, in a way | :38:57. | :39:01. | |
that I think some politicians had under estimated would happen, the | :39:02. | :39:04. | |
referendum has thrown all of British politics up in the air. We just | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
don't know where it will land. But the people who decide where it will | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
all land are not the people on the stage, it's every single one of us | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
who will be putting our crosses in which ever box in the privacy of the | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
polling Boot on Thursday. -- booth. One day of campaigning to go. We | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
will find after that. We will. Laura Kuenssberg there our political | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
editor. There that is all from Wembley. More analysis on Newsnight | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
on BBC Two. Tomorrow morning the Prime Minister, David Cameron, and | :39:35. | :39:37. | |
Boris Johnson will be questioned on BBC Breakfast. They won't be | :39:38. | :39:41. | |
debating, they will be questioned separately on BBC Breakfast. Now on | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
BBC One it's time for the news where you | :39:45. | :39:45. |