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Tonight at ten, France warns Britain not to seek too many concessions

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during negotiations to leave the EU. Theresa May is attending her first

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EU summit as Prime Minister, an opportunity to meet and address the

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leaders of the 27 other member states. Despite a warning from

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France that the UK could not expect any favours, Theresa May tried to

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strike a reassuring note. The UK is leaving the EU, but we will continue

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to play a full role until we leave, and we'll be a strong and dependable

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partner after we've left. We'll have the latest from the summit, where

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Theresa May has been addressing fellow leaders over dinner this

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evening. Also tonight. In the final televised debate of the US

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presidential campaign, Donald Trump alleged once again that the election

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was rigged. Iraqi forces say they are making progress towards Mosul,

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the last major stronghold of so-called Islamic State in Iraq. The

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House of Commons has called for the former boss of BHS, Sir Philip

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Green, to be stripped of his knighthood. And following Alan

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Turing, a pardon for thousands of other gay and bisexual men,

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convicted of sexual offences under walls which are no longer enforced.

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Coming up in Sportsday on BBC News, Manchester United were looking for

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the win they needed to kick-start their Europa League campaign against

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Fenerbahce at Old Trafford. Theresa May is in Brussels

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for her first European Union summit The 28 leaders are

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having dinner tonight, during which the Prime Minister

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is expected to update them on the current state

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of her government's plans During the day President Hollande

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warned her in effect not to expect any favours

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during the Brexit talks, while Mrs May insisted the UK

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would remain a strong and dependable partner for the EU

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after its departure. Our political editor Laura

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Kuenssberg reports from Brussels. This is such a cauldron of competing

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demands and ambitions without any detail from the UK of what they

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really want the future to look like, but the Prime Minister has tonight

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tried to assert herself, warning the other 27 countries not to make

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decisions or have discussions about issues that affect the whole of the

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EU, including the UK, while we are still in, despite the seeming

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contradiction that we have decided we are on our way out. As the first

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sign really in Brussels really that Theresa May intends to be heard,

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whatever our decision was at the end of June. She wants the UK to still

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play a full role in the EU. She is demanding that she will not be

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frozen out right at the beginning of this relationship. It will matter so

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much to her political success and of course to all of us.

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She'll make this entrance many times.

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The black limousine with the blacked out windows.

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A few short steps into the relationship that

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This is my first European Council and I'm here with a very clear

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The UK is leaving the EU but we will continue to play a full

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role until we leave and we will be a strong and dependable

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It's in the interests of both the UK and the EU that we continue

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to work closely together, including at this summit.

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The others promise not the lion's den but a nest of doves.

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The Prime Minister doesn't look so sure.

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Whatever the UK's hopes, Europe is not ready to talk.

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You can be sure she will be absolutely safe with us.

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Is there any chance that EU leaders might talk informally before

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We will not discuss about our future negotiations today.

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Leader after leader, the message to Theresa May -

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work out how you are leaving the club and then we'll listen.

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We're waiting on the UK, she says, we don't have to get

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No negotiation without notification and I hope that Theresa May

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If she wants hard Brexit, negotiations will be hard.

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Our decision to quit has done a lot more than raise eyebrows,

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The main business, migration, trade, what to do about Russia.

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But Theresa May wants to use these moments to make new friends

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and firm up the old, to ease fears that we'll just

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crash out of the EU, even if some are quietly

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crossing their fingers we might in the end change our minds.

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It is deeply unlikely but, having voted to leave,

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some Europeans hope we might decide to stay.

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Some of us are keeping that option at the back of our mind.

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But that can only happen if the British people

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or the British government reverses the decision that has been taken

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It can't be the Europeans who reverse that decision.

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This isn't a day for detail but a hugely important

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Whether she likes it or not, the biggest thing Theresa May

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will likely do is lead us out of the European Union,

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so ultimately her success or failure as Prime Minister will be

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decided here in Brussels, not in Britain.

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She takes her place in this line-up, believing she'll be the last

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Yet, in this political twilight zone, Theresa May wants to reassure.

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Our place in the EU has often been hard to find but,

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as the Prime Minister grapples her way towards the exit,

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Laura Kuenssberg, BBC News, Brussels.

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The leaders are talking over dinner in Brussels tonight. Let's go

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straight to the conference centre and Katya Adler, our Europe editor,

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is there. After today's words and exchanges, what is your sense of

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where this summit is going for Theresa May? We have to look at this

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exit in post-war Europe is one of the most dramatic developments, but

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it really is more processed than a single event -- Brexit in post-war

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Europe. Until Downing Street launches the formal Brexit

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proceedings we are stuck in a holding pattern of screaming

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silences. EU leaders are desperate to know from Theresa May the details

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of the kind of Brexit deal she wants, but she's refusing to give

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that running commentary either at home or abroad. Whereas for their

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part, EU leaders will not enter into talks about trade deals either

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interim or otherwise, until those formal Brexit talks start, even

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though Mrs May really wants to know where you fix ability lies. So while

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both sides are sitting at dinner wanting to scream at each other,

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just tell me, in fact, all 28 leaders including Mrs May have been

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discussing Russia and Syria, as the Prime Minister herself pointed out

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tonight, as long as the EU -- the UK remains in the EU it does stay a

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full member and we are an infinite number of negotiations, talks and

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arguments away from Britain walking out of the door just yet. Katya

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Adler with the latest at that summit in Brussels.

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Donald Trump has confirmed that he will after all

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accept the final outcome of the presidential election -

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In the third and final televised debate of the campaign

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the Republican candidate repeated that the election system

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His Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, had accused him

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Our North America editor Jon Sopel reports from Las Vegas.

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No handshake, not even grudging respect.

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For 15 minutes, though, something novel.

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A detailed policy debate without insults.

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But, when the subject turned to Russia, their hacking

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of Democratic Party computers and Donald Trump's admiration

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for Vladimir Putin as a strongman, that all changed.

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If we got along well, that would be good.

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Well, that's because he'd rather have a puppet as President.

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The Russians have engaged in cyberattacks against

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She has no idea whether it's Russia, China or anybody else,

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But then Donald Trump was questioned about the procession

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of women who've come forward to accuse him of sexual assault.

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These women, the woman on the plane, the woman...

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I think they want either fame or her campaign did it.

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Donald thinks belittling women makes him bigger.

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He goes after their dignity, their self-worth, and I don't

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think there is a woman anywhere who doesn't know

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Nobody has more respect for women than I do.

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The moderator intervened because the audience was laughing.

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There were sharp exchanges on guns, abortion, immigration.

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We have some bad hombres here and we're going to get them out.

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And this on Social Security benefits.

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My Social Security payroll contribution will go up,

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as will Donald's, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it.

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But what we want to do is replenish...

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Then came the truly astonishing moment of this debate.

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Donald Trump has alleged in recent days that the

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Both his daughter and his running mate have said they would

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of course accept the verdict of the American people.

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She should never have been allowed to run for the presidency based

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on what she did with e-mails and so many other things.

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Are you saying you are not prepared now...?

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What I'm saying is that I will tell you at the time.

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Well, Chris, let me respond to that, because that's horrifying.

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Every time Donald thinks things are not going in his direction

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he claims whatever it is is rigged against him.

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There was even a time when he didn't get an Emmy for his TV programme

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three years in a row and he started tweeting that the Emmys

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And it's funny, but it's also really troubling.

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In the spin room afterwards, his surrogates were scrambling

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So today Mr Trump in Ohio was trying to extinguish the fire

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that he himself had set, with a joke.

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If I win this election, I'll accept the result.

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Of course, I would accept a clear election result, but I would also

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reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case

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But as one blaze is damped down, another seems to catch.

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Today, another woman has come forward to claim she was subject

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to an unwanted sexual advances from Mr Trump.

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Or what you did to me so many years ago.

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Last night, his family, who are also his closest advisers,

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He needed to win big in the final debate but that stern face

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Jon Sopel, BBC News, Las Vegas.

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The debate was the last chance for a mass television audience,

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with tens of millions watching, to see both candidates

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The Republican polling expert Frank Luntz assembled

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a group of undecided voters in Las Vegas to watch the debate

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and to get their instant reaction to the exchanges.

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Our correspondent James Cook was there.

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If you lean towards Trump, turn your dial to one.

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If you lean towards Clinton, turn your dial to three.

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Some two dozen floating voters reacting to every sigh

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Because based on what she's saying and based on where she's going...

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The lines show approval ratings second by second, red for those

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leaning to Donald Trump, green for those inclined

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to Hillary Clinton, and yellow for the undecided voters.

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So what difference did the debate make?

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I went from Trump to Clinton, because Clinton proved to be more

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of an adult and actually I think she did better than Trump.

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Because she's been in office with Obama, they've been there long

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enough, and not enough has gotten better over that period of time,

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so in essence he's saying you didn't do anything, so I'll give a guy

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But what of the most controversial moment, when the Republican

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suggested yet again that the poll would be rigged?

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I'm not looking at anything now, I'll look at it at the time.

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How many of you had a problem with Donald Trump saying

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that he would not affirm the election results,

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I think because our country is built on a fair election

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and when the results come in, yes, there can be evidence

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of voter fraud sometimes, but we have to trust that it's

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working the way it should and the results stand.

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Why didn't what Trump said bother you?

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There's a lot of disconnection from the population

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How many of you wished there were two other

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candidates, that would replace both of them?

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The pollster running this focus group is a horrified Republican,

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who says both candidates are limping to the finish line.

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If the rest of the world wanted to see America humbled,

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A broken system, broken candidates and an electorate that is afraid,

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After the final debate this small slice of the American electorate

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remains pretty evenly divided between Donald Trump

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and Hillary Clinton, but most of them are united

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For millions of people in this country this has been a depressing

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Our North America editor Jon Sopel is in Las Vegas tonight.

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18 days to go, we've had the three televised debates. What's your sense

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tonight of the state of this race? Well, Hillary Clinton very clearly

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left Las Vegas last night feeling very buoyant indeed. Her team around

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her were celebrating a bit, there was quite a few drinks taken on the

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plane going back to New York. How this manifests itself is Hillary

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Clinton is expanding her ambitions. She is looking at Republican states,

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like Utah, Arizona, Midori, as possible targets as they sensed

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support for Donald Trump is crumbling -- Missouri. For Donald

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Trump, he needs to get his campaign on an even keel and get back to the

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issues that have served him well in the run-up to this presidential

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stage of the campaign. But he's coming under attack and those

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comments last night about not perhaps accepting the result have

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brought fresh criticism from Barack Obama. But with 18 days to go,

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there's still a high degree of unpredictability. Jon Sopel with the

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latest in Las Vegas after that debate.

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The Iraqi Prime Minister says the operation to recapture

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the city of Mosul - the last major stronghold

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of so-called Islamic State in Iraq - is progressing faster than planned.

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IS controls a large area around Mosul, where 1.5 million

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In the past 48 hours Iraqi government forces have made

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significant gains to the south of the city.

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Today, their Kurdish Peshmerga allies began a major advance

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on three fronts - to the north and east.

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Our correspondent Orla Guerin is with Kurdish forces attacking

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Singing of bravery on their way into battle.

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Kurdish Peshmerga fighters shoulder to shoulder, knowing dawn

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could bring them face-to-face with so-called Islamic State.

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And, with first light, the Kurds began attacking IS positions,

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The militants replied with tracer fire.

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The Peshmerga tried frantically to shoot it down.

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A drone, apparently rigged with explosives, killed two

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But there was little time to celebrate.

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As IS is pounded with heavy weapons, the Kurds listen

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Here, they try to coordinate a counter-attack on the troops.

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Target them on the bridge, one commander says, fire missiles

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Then there is a plea for reinforcements.

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But IS couldn't muster any here and the assault continued.

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Soon the extremists were losing ground.

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We are entering an area that the Kurdish forces

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They came in about half an hour or so.

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Now, the further they go forward, the more resistance they expect

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to face from suicide bombers and from snipers,

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and we've heard some sniper fire just in the last few moments.

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The troops believe that IS has spent months planting roadside

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There will be many more hazards on the journey ahead,

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and Kurdish sources say IS is now regrouping in some areas.

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Orla Guerin, BBC News, north of Mosul.

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An American soldier was killed today in a bomb attack near Mosul. More

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than 100 US troops are advising Iraq each -- Iraqi forces as they

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advance. The American commander of coalition forces is helping to

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coordinate operations from an airbase at Qayyarah and he told our

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defence correspondent that defeating IS was not going to be easy.

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The fight for Mosul is being led by Iraqi forces but with America's

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help. Supported by Apache gunships, we travelled with the most senior

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coalition commander in Iraq, Lieutenant General Stephen Townsend,

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now keeping a close eye on the battle. The BBC is the first media

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to begin this access since the offensive was launched. Our first

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stop, and austere base from where the US is supporting Iraqi and

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Peshmerga forces as they push towards the city. Their artillery

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and these shells being used to target so-called Islamic State.

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There are days when we are going to do our well and there are days we

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are going to get to vote. This is a big operation in a long war. So,

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when you pull back and look at it, here's what I see. I see the Iraqi

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security forces have largely encircled Mosul and they are

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imposing their will on the enemy in Mosul now. There are 5000 US troops

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in Iraq but not to directly join the fight. All general Townsend tells me

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is the offensive, an American imposed plan, but he is in close

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contact with Iraqi commanders. At his next meeting with a rock's chief

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of defence staff, he looks for reassurances that they have enough

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equipment and men. Defeating IS in Mosul won't be easy. They are

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adaptable, creative and cunning. We have seen all kinds of examples of

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that. It's a challenging opponent. They burn people alive in cages.

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They crucify people and they drive over people on the street with

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bulldozers. Are they using human shields? Yeah, probably. This is a

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brutal opponent that has to be stopped. He will not be drawn on how

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long it will take but, as we leave with Mosul in the distance, any

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victory still looks some way off. The House of Commons has called

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for the former owner of British Home Stores,

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Sir Philip Green, to be The vote by MPs isn't binding,

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but it will add to the pressure Sir Philip, who was knighted

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for 'services to retail' a decade ago, sold BHS for ?1 last year -

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shortly before it collapsed. He's accused MPs of misrepresenting

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the facts, as our business editor This knight of the realm has

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been described by many as more like an emperor,

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and today, they came to bury him, I see Green as a billionaire spiv,

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a billionaire spiv who should never have received a knighthood,

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a billionaire spiv that has BHS is one of the biggest corporate

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scandals of modern times. I think the whole House has sympathy

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for the thousands of workers and pensioners who've lost

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their jobs and seen their benefits reduced as a result of greed,

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incompetence and hubris. Strip Philip Green of his

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knighthood, take him to task and maybe get him to sell

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a few of his superyachts so my constituents and everybody

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else's constituents can get the pensions and retirement

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they worked so hard for. To be honest this wasn't

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really much of a debate To call for another committee

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to strip somebody of an honour when the normal process is that

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an honour is only taken away if somebody has committed

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a criminal offence is an abuse Jane Costello from South Shields

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was one of 11,000 people who lost their jobs and she was very

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clear about what should happen. I think he should be stripped

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of his knighthood, 100%. He doesn't realise what he's done

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to everybody and he's swanning It's not fair for what everybody

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else is going through. Today's motion does not mean that

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Sir Philip Green will Any decision on that will be made

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here, in Whitehall. It's also very rare for people not

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found guilty of doing anything Fred Goodwin of RBS fame is the last

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and possibly most famous example, but it seems Sir Philip has become

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the new poster boy for popular During her party conference

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Theresa May made a thinly disguised A director who takes out massive

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dividends while knowing that the company pension

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is about to go bust. One possible route to redemption may

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lie in honouring a pensions promise It's resolvable, sortable,

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we will sort it. Sir Philip Green was watching today,

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and I understand a new attempt at a pensions settlement

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is imminent, but at this stage cash may save his knighthood

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but not his reputation. A brief look at some of the day's

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other other news stories. The Scottish Government has

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published its draft bill on a second The move doesn't guarantee

:25:37.:25:39.

another referendum, but First Minister Nicola Sturgeon

:25:40.:25:49.

said Scotland should be ready to hold a vote,

:25:50.:25:51.

if it's in Scotland's interests. The European Space Agency says it

:25:52.:25:54.

still doesn't know the fate of a robotic probe which was due

:25:55.:25:56.

to land on Mars yesterday. Scientists say that signals

:25:57.:26:00.

from the robot were lost less than a minute before it was expected

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to touch down. They believe its parachute

:26:03.:26:04.

was jettisoned too early. Community pharmacies in England

:26:05.:26:09.

will have their budgets cut by more Reports earlier this year suggested

:26:10.:26:11.

that 3000 chemists could close as a result of the funding shake-up,

:26:12.:26:15.

but that figure has been Labour described the plans

:26:16.:26:20.

as "short-sighted". A Royal Navy destroyer and a frigate

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have been sent to shadow a group of Russian warships

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which are passing through the North The ships, including Russia's

:26:31.:26:32.

only aircraft carrier and a battle cruiser,

:26:33.:26:38.

are believed to be heading Tonight Nato said there was concern

:26:39.:26:42.

the vessels might launch attacks Our diplomatic correspondent

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James Robbins is in Moscow tonight. James, what is your reading of the

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situation there? Well, the decision originally to deploy Russia's only

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carrier for the first time to a combat zone was taken, we believe,

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about three months ago by President Putin and the Kremlin, but the fact

:27:15.:27:18.

is deployment is going ahead at a time when Russia says it is

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extending by another 24 hours its military pause in Syria, suggested

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Nato and its Secretary General that the longer term plan may be much

:27:27.:27:32.

grimmer, from the point of view of the people of Aleppo. The

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Secretary-General suggested Russia could be about to inflict even

:27:36.:27:40.

greater human suffering on the city. The military purpose is clear. It

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will give Russia a far greater firepower in the region, there is

:27:45.:27:49.

also a clear political message. It isn't actually necessary to send a

:27:50.:27:54.

carrier to the eastern Mediterranean to achieve that increase in

:27:55.:27:57.

firepower. It could be done with land-based aircraft. Part of the

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political message is partly to Britain and France, particularly

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Britain, taunting the Royal Navy for not having an operational aircraft

:28:07.:28:10.

carrier of its own and, to France and Nato allies, saying that Russia

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has the will to fight in Syria, and you have shown that you don't. I

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think that is the message President Putin wants to send out. James

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Robbins with the latest from Moscow. Thousands of gay and bisexual men

:28:22.:28:24.

who were convicted of sexual offences under laws which have

:28:25.:28:26.

since been abolished Campaigners say around 65,000 men

:28:27.:28:28.

were convicted, of whom The government says anyone found

:28:29.:28:31.

guilty of consensual same-sex relationships

:28:32.:28:38.

would have their names cleared, and for those still living

:28:39.:28:39.

the offences would be removed Our correspondent Judith

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Moritz has the story. There's nothing to hide

:28:43.:28:48.

in Manchester's gay village, 50 years ago, doing this

:28:49.:28:51.

could land gay men in jail. The World War II code breaker

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Alan Turing was prosecuted for gross This memorial to Alan Turing

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in Manchester remembers him as the father of computer science

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and as a victim of prejudice. After Turing was pardoned in 2013,

:29:13.:29:17.

his family campaigned for other prosecuted gay men to be

:29:18.:29:20.

given the same treatment. Now, the so-called Turing Law

:29:21.:29:27.

will be extended to thousands of men Men I spoke to in Manchester

:29:28.:29:30.

welcomed the decision. Some of my friends that grew up back

:29:31.:29:37.

then, they had to hide away. They were made to be criminals

:29:38.:29:40.

and they weren't criminals, but they were made to feel

:29:41.:29:44.

like they were. It wasn't nice, I imagine,

:29:45.:29:46.

to be walking down the street If it wasn't for those people,

:29:47.:29:51.

we wouldn't be able to do that today, so we have to remember

:29:52.:29:55.

what they went through for us. But not all campaigners feel that

:29:56.:29:59.

pardons are enough. We introduced two of them,

:30:00.:30:03.

young activist Daniel Harris What I'm most interested in,

:30:04.:30:06.

which pleases me, which drives me more than anything is the posthumous

:30:07.:30:13.

apology to all those that have gone before,

:30:14.:30:16.

all those that have died before, Alan Turing, and going back

:30:17.:30:22.

as far as Oscar Wilde. I see a pardon as kind of a way

:30:23.:30:25.

forward but it's not enough, and I completely ask

:30:26.:30:28.

for the Government to actually give an official apology and put right

:30:29.:30:34.

the wrongs from the past. Men eligible for pardons will have

:30:35.:30:39.

to apply through the Home Office. Alan Turing's family say they're

:30:40.:30:42.

glad other men will finally receive Judith Moritz, BBC News,

:30:43.:30:46.

Manchester. Here is Kirsty. Tonight, we are

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rewarding the wrong headteachers with big paycheques and knighthoods

:31:07.:31:10.

when the best teachers are paid the worst. Join me now on BBC Two.

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Here on BBC One it's time for the news where you are.

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