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future parliamentary business. Will Grayling will answer | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
future parliamentary business. Will then be a short statement rdgarding | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
the Council of Europe's parliamentary assembly. The main | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
business today are backbench debates. The first is UK policy on | :03:18. | :03:23. | |
space exploration. The second regards House of Lords reform. The | :03:24. | :03:31. | |
day ends with plans to direct electricity pylons for Hinkley C. | :03:32. | :03:39. | |
Join me for a round-up of the day at 11pm tonight. First, questions to | :03:40. | :03:49. | |
Jeremy Wright, the Attorney,General. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Legal | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
updated ahead of the introdtction of updated ahead of the | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
the new effects of coercive or controlling behaviour. And to | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
support the introduction of that guidance, training has been | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
developed and made availabld to prosecutors. Women's groups have | :04:07. | :04:15. | |
warmly welcomed the new ruld as a step forward for protecting victims. | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
Does he expect a rise in thd number of these cases coming to cotrt as a | :04:22. | :04:28. | |
result? I am grateful and I pay tribute to all those groups who do | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
so much to support male and female victims of domestic abuse. We can | :04:34. | :04:40. | |
expect a rise in prosecutions. We have seen similar resident hn the | :04:41. | :04:42. | |
cases of stalking and harassment a few years ago. Given that conviction | :04:43. | :04:53. | |
rates for rape, domestic abtse and other sexual offences has f`llen in | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
the last year, what reassur`nces can the Minister give to the Hotse that | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
further budget cuts will not damage the attempt to secure justice for | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
the victims of those cryings -- those crimes. The rate remahns | :05:09. | :05:18. | |
broadly flat for domestic vholence. The volume of convictions continues | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
to increase and that is good news for every single victim involved. | :05:24. | :05:24. | |
For example, rape no concerns 2 00. No prosecution will be prevdnted as | :05:25. | :05:47. | |
a result of any budget problems The strength of the victims' evhdence in | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
a domestic abuse trial can often depend on recollections as close to | :05:54. | :06:03. | |
the time as possible. Perhaps victims should be allowed to record | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
testimony on their mobile phones, rather than being taken to ` police | :06:11. | :06:18. | |
station. We have police pilots in London using body cameras to capture | :06:19. | :06:24. | |
the immediate effects. I thhnk that technology needs to be very much | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
part of the tools available to police officers when investhgating | :06:30. | :06:30. | |
these cases. Domestic accounts for a fifth of all crime in | :06:31. | :06:39. | |
Northern Ireland. Police officers attend 60 incidents per day. We | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
still have problems with people feeling to come forward, | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
particularly men. By the CPS considering taking steps with police | :06:51. | :07:02. | |
forces to encourage people to record all of these cases? 15% of these | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
cases are about men. It is not a badge of shame to admit you are a | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
male victim of domestic abuse. That message needs to be heard loud and | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
clear throughout the length and breadth of the United Kingdom. With | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
permission, I'll answer this question with question seven. I meet | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
regularly with ministerial colleagues to discuss issues of | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
common interest, among them EU law matters. By convention, where advice | :07:32. | :07:41. | |
has been issued, it is not disclosed. Given the timesc`le, can | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
the Attorney-General tell us what legal form the renegotiation will | :07:49. | :07:57. | |
take? I can't discuss the ldgal ramifications of an agreement that | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
has not yet been reached. When the agreement is reached, the House will | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
be able to see it and form hts own judgment coming including on its own | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
legal aspects in which we whll be able to see more. The final say in | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
this matter will come from the British public who will havd a | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
referendum to do if dashed to determine their verdict, a | :08:21. | :08:22. | |
referendum which a Labour government would not have given them. @rticle | :08:23. | :08:31. | |
50 of the Lisbon Treaty stated that the with drawing state would | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
automatically be excluded from all meetings of the European Cotncil. If | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
agreement is not reached within two years, they would automatic`lly be | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
excluded from negotiating tdrms Does he agree that are withdrawing | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
state would be liable to punishment to dissuade others from leaving | :08:56. | :09:02. | |
Therefore there is no such thing as a soft British exit? He is several | :09:03. | :09:09. | |
is a renegotiation. And the side of The first thing that needs to | :09:10. | :09:16. | |
the House, we believe the renegotiation is necessary `nd we | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
wish the Prime Minister of success in achieving it. When he has, there | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
will be a referendum to detdrmine whether the British public consider | :09:24. | :09:33. | |
it to be a good deal or not. We believe the referendum and the | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
renegotiation are the right thing to do. As the plan appears to be to | :09:37. | :09:42. | |
have an agreement at the first stage which would later be confirled in a | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
treaty change, as the voters in Denmark and Ireland have shown in | :09:47. | :09:48. | |
the past, the outcome of national the past, the | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
referendums cannot be taken for granted. How can the governlent be | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
certain that any proposed treaty change in the future would `ctually | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
be approved by each one of the other 27 EU states? My friend will | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
recognise these are matters which will be debated filly in thd course | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
of the referendum campaign. I know he will play a full part in the | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
campaign. In the past, both in the leash to Ireland and Denmark, | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
international agreements have been reached have subsequently bden | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
enacted. It is of course solething that the government will wish to | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
consider. And which the public will wish to consider if that is the | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
outcome of the renegotiation. Where this country to vote to leave the | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
European Union, with the Attorney-General's advice to the | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
government be that that renegotiation should be tabled | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
straightaway? I think you whll recognise that we are some way away | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
from that. As I said in my hnitial answer, I cannot discuss in this | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
Minister. I hope he will forgive me may or may not give | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
Minister. I hope he will forgive me if I don't do so now. One of the | :11:10. | :11:16. | |
risks of leaving the EU will be that the UK cannot rely on justice | :11:17. | :11:23. | |
measures for serious and organised crime and terrorism. Which `dvice | :11:24. | :11:32. | |
that what advice has he givdn and to which departments? I'm going to | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
sound like a broken record, but I can't give advice that I max may not | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
have given to the government in this chamber. I am not going to do so, I | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
am afraid. The legal position surrounding the so-called | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
renegotiation is confused that best. renegotiation is confused that best. | :11:52. | :11:59. | |
It seems to me this is potentially delaying the possible withdrawal | :12:00. | :12:15. | |
from the EC eight are. -- ECHR. I cannot comment on the legal status | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
of an agreement which has not yet been negotiated. Relating to ECHR, | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
he will know my ministerial colleagues are working hard on the | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
government's proposals and he will hear them in due course. To ensure a | :12:30. | :12:42. | |
consistent approach across `ll areas, a steering group has been | :12:43. | :12:53. | |
established. It meets regul`rly What assessment has he made of the | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
CPS's action plan to improvd the prosecution of rape and sextal | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
assault? The publication of this action plan demonstrates thd | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
willingness of this governmdnt and the CPS to increase prosecution | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
rates in these areas. It shows a clear line of intent. It is being | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
reflected in the careful consideration of any withdr`wal of | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
prosecution cases before considered by a jury. It is a long-standing | :13:26. | :13:37. | |
convention adopted by my prddecessor that neither the fact nor content of | :13:38. | :13:42. | |
law offices advice is normally disclose outside government. In this | :13:43. | :13:54. | |
case, the government's legal position has been stated by the | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
Prime Minister. I am in agrdement with that. I wonder whether you will | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
do Parliament the courtesy of sharing your view now on thd | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
legality of current militarx action legality of current militarx action | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
in Syria either now or in a statement. I do have a view on the | :14:14. | :14:18. | |
matter and my view is that these we were legal actions. The govdrnment's | :14:19. | :14:32. | |
view has been set out. I don't intend to set out specific `dvice I | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
have given either on the individual drone strike in Syria or in military | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
action against Daesh. The government's legal system is set out | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
and I agree with that. The head of the National wildlife | :14:46. | :14:55. | |
crime unit worked closely together with their colleagues to discuss | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
policy at casework issues. Both parties sit on the DEFRA partnership | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
action against wildlife crile board. Does the Minister agree that if we | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
continue to seek convention rates -- conviction rates increase, the | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
Government needs to fund thd National wildlife crime unit. I m | :15:18. | :15:29. | |
good for to the honourable lady Last year, overall conviction rates | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
were 71%, which compares favourably with other types of crime. There | :15:33. | :15:40. | |
were 605 defendants prosecuted with 240 and drink guilty pleas. -- 40 | :15:41. | :15:49. | |
offering guilty pleas. In mx constituency and in the widdr | :15:50. | :15:58. | |
south-west, the crime unit play a vital roll, not only around poaching | :15:59. | :16:06. | |
but protecting rare creaturds. If this unit is disbanded, there is no | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
to step into their shoes. I would ask the Minister to look carefully | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
at withdrawing to what does amount to very little funding but does such | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
vital workforce of I hear what my honourable friend says. I'm sure the | :16:21. | :16:22. | |
DEFRA ministers do as well. has indeed played a very important | :16:23. | :16:31. | |
role in the prosecution of the serious offences. As I said, a | :16:32. | :16:33. | |
decision on funding will be made very soon. I'm just consciots to ask | :16:34. | :16:47. | |
the Attorney General, is thdre enough the desertion for thd | :16:48. | :16:50. | |
production of wildlife but `lso the protection of individuals who are | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
involved in rural sports. I'm good for to the honourable gentldman I | :16:56. | :17:03. | |
think Great Britain has led the world in protection | :17:04. | :17:10. | |
whilst the relevant laws ard in place, they will be properlx | :17:11. | :17:11. | |
enforced and prosecutions whll be applied using the tests that | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
prosecutors have to do, and taking the evidence where it leads them. | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
Question other six, Mr Speaker. The director of public as it isn't and I | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
have regular discussions about the Crown Prosecution Service operations | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
was that we both believe th`t this enables the CPS to act corrdctly. We | :17:34. | :17:42. | |
also have to discuss how thd CPS can be more efficient and effective in | :17:43. | :17:44. | |
the work that it does. Does the the work that it does. Does the | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
Minister agree with the forler Director of Public Prosecuthons | :17:51. | :17:53. | |
Lord Macdonald, that the CPS is forced to shed thousands of jobs, | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
meaning we could see a dangdrous situation developing weather CPS | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
no-load has the necessary expertise to do an important job of ddlivering | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
justice to the people of thhs country? No, and nor does the | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
current director of puppet prosecutions. There are two things I | :18:12. | :18:14. | |
draw the honourable lady's `ttention to in the settlement of what it has | :18:15. | :18:18. | |
double in size its countertdrrorism double in size its countertdrrorism | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
caseload there, and she would appreciate. They can also hhre 00 | :18:26. | :18:39. | |
more prosecutors to conduct serious sexual cases. They are going | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
position to do so now. We'll be Attorney General confirm, and in his | :18:44. | :18:51. | |
response is consistent with the director of the public prosdcution, | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
of the willingness of the Crown persecution service to look at the | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
way in which it organises itself will stop that is reinforced with | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
the proposal to carry out the Matic reviews of their financing `t a | :19:05. | :19:11. | |
thematic level. I agree with him. I think it is important that the CPS | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
Inspectorate take that role, and the CPS, as I have indicated, I've keen | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
to make sure that the work they do is conducted as efficiently as | :19:21. | :19:23. | |
possible, and it will be necessary for them to do so in what are | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
continuing, difficult econolic times. It is not right to stggest | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
that the CPS to not have thd resources they need to do their job | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
well. This time last year, the DPP was asking the attorney for an extra | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
50 million to prosecute properly complex cases. But the spending | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
review revealed a real terms cut of 2.1% to the law officers' | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
Department. Given the vast lajority of the Budget is taken up bx the | :19:54. | :20:00. | |
CPS, can the attorney now confirm that the DPP is actually saxing she | :20:01. | :20:08. | |
no longer needs the extra 50 million she was pleading for 12 months ago? | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
Can I start by congratulating the honourable gentleman on his | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
promotion? Very well-deservdd. I would point out to him that I think | :20:19. | :20:21. | |
there have been four people doing his job in the time I have been | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
doing mine, so I wish at le`st a comparatively long career in | :20:26. | :20:28. | |
opposition. In relation to the point he has made, he knows because we | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
have discussed it across thdse dispatch boxes before, that it is | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
important to listen to what the CPS are saying now, not what thdy said a | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
year ago. What they are sayhng now is what I've read to him in my | :20:41. | :20:48. | |
initial answer. The CPS comlent at the time, and which you can take it | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
that the DPP agrees with, whll allow the CPS to respond to a changing | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
caseload and the significant increase in competent sensitive | :20:59. | :21:01. | |
cases such as terrorism, rape and serious sexual assaults and child | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
sex abuse. That is what the director of public prosecutions belidves She | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
says this is a good settlemdnt, and I grew agree with her. | :21:11. | :21:22. | |
The CPS have taken a number of steps to improve the conviction r`te for | :21:23. | :21:32. | |
rape and domestic violence. There has been an update to legal advice, | :21:33. | :21:41. | |
and working closely with thd police. I'm grateful for the reply, it won't | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
hide the fact that the convhction rate for rape has fallen by 5.6 in | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
the last four years. It is now just over 56%. The conviction rate for | :21:53. | :21:57. | |
domestic abuse has fallen as well. Something has happened therd. I | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
welcome the review of what that is. A Kerry direction is needed as to | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
what it will take to increase the conviction rate | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
particular. The honourable gentleman has taken an interest in thdse | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
matters and he is right to raise those issues. I remind him `gain | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
that volumes continue to increase to the highest ever levels. I have | :22:20. | :22:27. | |
mentioned rape but to domestic violence levels have risen `s well, | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
so that is a result for thotsands of victims. The key for the attorney | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
and I is to make sure that the prosecution don't bring charges and | :22:40. | :22:42. | |
then drop them without good reason, allow them to go to jury so the jury | :22:43. | :22:47. | |
and magistrates can make decisions. May I take a contrary view `nd say | :22:48. | :22:54. | |
that we all know that a colleague of ours was found innocent of rape and | :22:55. | :23:00. | |
a young student was recentlx found innocent of rape. It is important | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
that the Crown Prosecution Service do not prosecute people likdly. If | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
they think they are innocent, they should make sure they are not | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
prosecuted. Can I assure my honourable friend that the | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
prosecution in every case mtst apply the test of reasonable chance of | :23:21. | :23:27. | |
conviction, and whether that is in the public interest. That should | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
apply to everyone, no matter whether they are in this House or any other | :23:31. | :23:32. | |
part of the country. It equality before the law and the | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
evidence must be followed wherever it leads. Despite what the Solicitor | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
General has said, the fact hs that conviction rates for rape and | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
limited abuse have fallen. There needs to be more done to reduce the | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
instances of these offences, as well as doing more to support victims. We | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
on this site make a manifesto commitment to reduce a Bill, as the | :24:00. | :24:06. | |
Welsh government has done. Ht would enable revisions to set a | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
Commissioner, to set minimul standards to tackle sexual `nd | :24:11. | :24:17. | |
domestic violence. Can the Government to do the same qtestion | :24:18. | :24:19. | |
can I welcome her to her position? It is a pleasure to see her. We have | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
worked in the South Wales ldgal fraternity together for manx years. | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
This government is absolutely committed to the funding and the | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
combat of violence against women and girls. There is a cross minhsterial | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
group that meets regularly, which I'm a member, we have introduced | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
legislation to criminalise coerced control, we have increased the | :24:44. | :24:51. | |
powers that the police and the persecution service have at their | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
control. That is why the conviction rates have increased. | :24:58. | :25:06. | |
For the purposes of clarity, I am not a member of the Welsh ldgal | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
fraternity either! After thd tragic events in Paris last month, we have | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
asked for a review into the legal framework and the investigatory | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
processes relating to inciddnts involving the police use of | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
firearms. I will play my part in that review, which will conclude | :25:24. | :25:29. | |
later this year. My name max suggest otherwise, but Wales is not my home. | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
Mr Speaker, last week, I met with the chief cars will for Sussex and | :25:36. | :25:37. | |
we agree that our firearms officers do a job which is difficult and | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
often dangerous. They are more lightly than ever to be called upon | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
to perfect the public. They understand that they will nded to | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
account for the actions if they use lethal force. Is the Attorndy | :25:48. | :25:55. | |
General comfortable but our authorities support this balance | :25:56. | :25:57. | |
Gresham and I agree with my honourable friend. Although, as he | :25:58. | :25:59. | |
says, it is important that hncidents are properly investigated, but it is | :26:00. | :26:07. | |
also important to treat polhce officers fairly. If we need to | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
recruit more officers to do the difficult work of using firdarms, | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
and we need to retain experhenced firearms officers, they need to feel | :26:18. | :26:20. | |
the system will protect thel fairly. That is what I hope this review will | :26:21. | :26:22. | |
do. Whilst I have to observe thd | :26:23. | :26:36. | |
proprieties of the law officers Convention, the governorate welcomes | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
the clarity that the judgment provided, in which any assessment of | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
vulnerability must be made, looking at the circumstance of anyone's | :26:48. | :26:54. | |
situation. Homeless people `re inherently vulnerable. Can the | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
Solicitor General be sure that as the law currently stands, there is a | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
safety net that is provided for honourable homeless people who are | :27:04. | :27:09. | |
unintentionally homeless? I am grateful, I commend him for the | :27:10. | :27:11. | |
concerned were what he has done on this issue, both in the caphtal and | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
generally. The Government convene in that case -- into being in that case | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
because there is a concern that it will | :27:20. | :27:20. |