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Good morning and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage of the

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future parliamentary business. Will Grayling will answer

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future parliamentary business. Will then be a short statement rdgarding

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the Council of Europe's parliamentary assembly. The main

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business today are backbench debates. The first is UK policy on

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space exploration. The second regards House of Lords reform. The

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day ends with plans to direct electricity pylons for Hinkley C.

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Join me for a round-up of the day at 11pm tonight. First, questions to

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Jeremy Wright, the Attorney,General. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Legal

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updated ahead of the introdtction of updated ahead of the

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the new effects of coercive or controlling behaviour. And to

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support the introduction of that guidance, training has been

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developed and made availabld to prosecutors. Women's groups have

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warmly welcomed the new ruld as a step forward for protecting victims.

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Does he expect a rise in thd number of these cases coming to cotrt as a

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result? I am grateful and I pay tribute to all those groups who do

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so much to support male and female victims of domestic abuse. We can

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expect a rise in prosecutions. We have seen similar resident hn the

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cases of stalking and harassment a few years ago. Given that conviction

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rates for rape, domestic abtse and other sexual offences has f`llen in

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the last year, what reassur`nces can the Minister give to the Hotse that

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further budget cuts will not damage the attempt to secure justice for

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the victims of those cryings -- those crimes. The rate remahns

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broadly flat for domestic vholence. The volume of convictions continues

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to increase and that is good news for every single victim involved.

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For example, rape no concerns 2 00. No prosecution will be prevdnted as

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a result of any budget problems The strength of the victims' evhdence in

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a domestic abuse trial can often depend on recollections as close to

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the time as possible. Perhaps victims should be allowed to record

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testimony on their mobile phones, rather than being taken to ` police

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station. We have police pilots in London using body cameras to capture

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the immediate effects. I thhnk that technology needs to be very much

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part of the tools available to police officers when investhgating

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these cases. Domestic accounts for a fifth of all crime in

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Northern Ireland. Police officers attend 60 incidents per day. We

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still have problems with people feeling to come forward,

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particularly men. By the CPS considering taking steps with police

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forces to encourage people to record all of these cases? 15% of these

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cases are about men. It is not a badge of shame to admit you are a

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male victim of domestic abuse. That message needs to be heard loud and

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clear throughout the length and breadth of the United Kingdom. With

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permission, I'll answer this question with question seven. I meet

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regularly with ministerial colleagues to discuss issues of

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common interest, among them EU law matters. By convention, where advice

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has been issued, it is not disclosed. Given the timesc`le, can

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the Attorney-General tell us what legal form the renegotiation will

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take? I can't discuss the ldgal ramifications of an agreement that

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has not yet been reached. When the agreement is reached, the House will

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be able to see it and form hts own judgment coming including on its own

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legal aspects in which we whll be able to see more. The final say in

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this matter will come from the British public who will havd a

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referendum to do if dashed to determine their verdict, a

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referendum which a Labour government would not have given them. @rticle

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50 of the Lisbon Treaty stated that the with drawing state would

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automatically be excluded from all meetings of the European Cotncil. If

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agreement is not reached within two years, they would automatic`lly be

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excluded from negotiating tdrms Does he agree that are withdrawing

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state would be liable to punishment to dissuade others from leaving

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Therefore there is no such thing as a soft British exit? He is several

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is a renegotiation. And the side of The first thing that needs to

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the House, we believe the renegotiation is necessary `nd we

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wish the Prime Minister of success in achieving it. When he has, there

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will be a referendum to detdrmine whether the British public consider

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it to be a good deal or not. We believe the referendum and the

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renegotiation are the right thing to do. As the plan appears to be to

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have an agreement at the first stage which would later be confirled in a

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treaty change, as the voters in Denmark and Ireland have shown in

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the past, the outcome of national the past, the

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referendums cannot be taken for granted. How can the governlent be

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certain that any proposed treaty change in the future would `ctually

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be approved by each one of the other 27 EU states? My friend will

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recognise these are matters which will be debated filly in thd course

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of the referendum campaign. I know he will play a full part in the

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campaign. In the past, both in the leash to Ireland and Denmark,

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international agreements have been reached have subsequently bden

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enacted. It is of course solething that the government will wish to

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consider. And which the public will wish to consider if that is the

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outcome of the renegotiation. Where this country to vote to leave the

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European Union, with the Attorney-General's advice to the

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government be that that renegotiation should be tabled

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straightaway? I think you whll recognise that we are some way away

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from that. As I said in my hnitial answer, I cannot discuss in this

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Minister. I hope he will forgive me may or may not give

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Minister. I hope he will forgive me if I don't do so now. One of the

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risks of leaving the EU will be that the UK cannot rely on justice

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measures for serious and organised crime and terrorism. Which `dvice

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that what advice has he givdn and to which departments? I'm going to

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sound like a broken record, but I can't give advice that I max may not

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have given to the government in this chamber. I am not going to do so, I

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am afraid. The legal position surrounding the so-called

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renegotiation is confused that best. renegotiation is confused that best.

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It seems to me this is potentially delaying the possible withdrawal

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from the EC eight are. -- ECHR. I cannot comment on the legal status

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of an agreement which has not yet been negotiated. Relating to ECHR,

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he will know my ministerial colleagues are working hard on the

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government's proposals and he will hear them in due course. To ensure a

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consistent approach across `ll areas, a steering group has been

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established. It meets regul`rly What assessment has he made of the

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CPS's action plan to improvd the prosecution of rape and sextal

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assault? The publication of this action plan demonstrates thd

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willingness of this governmdnt and the CPS to increase prosecution

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rates in these areas. It shows a clear line of intent. It is being

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reflected in the careful consideration of any withdr`wal of

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prosecution cases before considered by a jury. It is a long-standing

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convention adopted by my prddecessor that neither the fact nor content of

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law offices advice is normally disclose outside government. In this

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case, the government's legal position has been stated by the

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Prime Minister. I am in agrdement with that. I wonder whether you will

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do Parliament the courtesy of sharing your view now on thd

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legality of current militarx action legality of current militarx action

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in Syria either now or in a statement. I do have a view on the

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matter and my view is that these we were legal actions. The govdrnment's

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view has been set out. I don't intend to set out specific `dvice I

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have given either on the individual drone strike in Syria or in military

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action against Daesh. The government's legal system is set out

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and I agree with that. The head of the National wildlife

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crime unit worked closely together with their colleagues to discuss

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policy at casework issues. Both parties sit on the DEFRA partnership

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action against wildlife crile board. Does the Minister agree that if we

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continue to seek convention rates -- conviction rates increase, the

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Government needs to fund thd National wildlife crime unit. I m

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good for to the honourable lady Last year, overall conviction rates

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were 71%, which compares favourably with other types of crime. There

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were 605 defendants prosecuted with 240 and drink guilty pleas. -- 40

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offering guilty pleas. In mx constituency and in the widdr

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south-west, the crime unit play a vital roll, not only around poaching

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but protecting rare creaturds. If this unit is disbanded, there is no

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to step into their shoes. I would ask the Minister to look carefully

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at withdrawing to what does amount to very little funding but does such

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vital workforce of I hear what my honourable friend says. I'm sure the

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DEFRA ministers do as well. has indeed played a very important

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role in the prosecution of the serious offences. As I said, a

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decision on funding will be made very soon. I'm just consciots to ask

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the Attorney General, is thdre enough the desertion for thd

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production of wildlife but `lso the protection of individuals who are

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involved in rural sports. I'm good for to the honourable gentldman I

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think Great Britain has led the world in protection

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whilst the relevant laws ard in place, they will be properlx

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enforced and prosecutions whll be applied using the tests that

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prosecutors have to do, and taking the evidence where it leads them.

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Question other six, Mr Speaker. The director of public as it isn't and I

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have regular discussions about the Crown Prosecution Service operations

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was that we both believe th`t this enables the CPS to act corrdctly. We

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also have to discuss how thd CPS can be more efficient and effective in

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the work that it does. Does the the work that it does. Does the

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Minister agree with the forler Director of Public Prosecuthons

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Lord Macdonald, that the CPS is forced to shed thousands of jobs,

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meaning we could see a dangdrous situation developing weather CPS

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no-load has the necessary expertise to do an important job of ddlivering

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justice to the people of thhs country? No, and nor does the

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current director of puppet prosecutions. There are two things I

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draw the honourable lady's `ttention to in the settlement of what it has

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double in size its countertdrrorism double in size its countertdrrorism

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caseload there, and she would appreciate. They can also hhre 00

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more prosecutors to conduct serious sexual cases. They are going

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position to do so now. We'll be Attorney General confirm, and in his

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response is consistent with the director of the public prosdcution,

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of the willingness of the Crown persecution service to look at the

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way in which it organises itself will stop that is reinforced with

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the proposal to carry out the Matic reviews of their financing `t a

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thematic level. I agree with him. I think it is important that the CPS

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Inspectorate take that role, and the CPS, as I have indicated, I've keen

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to make sure that the work they do is conducted as efficiently as

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possible, and it will be necessary for them to do so in what are

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continuing, difficult econolic times. It is not right to stggest

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that the CPS to not have thd resources they need to do their job

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well. This time last year, the DPP was asking the attorney for an extra

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50 million to prosecute properly complex cases. But the spending

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review revealed a real terms cut of 2.1% to the law officers'

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Department. Given the vast lajority of the Budget is taken up bx the

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CPS, can the attorney now confirm that the DPP is actually saxing she

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no longer needs the extra 50 million she was pleading for 12 months ago?

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Can I start by congratulating the honourable gentleman on his

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promotion? Very well-deservdd. I would point out to him that I think

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there have been four people doing his job in the time I have been

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doing mine, so I wish at le`st a comparatively long career in

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opposition. In relation to the point he has made, he knows because we

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have discussed it across thdse dispatch boxes before, that it is

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important to listen to what the CPS are saying now, not what thdy said a

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year ago. What they are sayhng now is what I've read to him in my

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initial answer. The CPS comlent at the time, and which you can take it

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that the DPP agrees with, whll allow the CPS to respond to a changing

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caseload and the significant increase in competent sensitive

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cases such as terrorism, rape and serious sexual assaults and child

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sex abuse. That is what the director of public prosecutions belidves She

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says this is a good settlemdnt, and I grew agree with her.

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The CPS have taken a number of steps to improve the conviction r`te for

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rape and domestic violence. There has been an update to legal advice,

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and working closely with thd police. I'm grateful for the reply, it won't

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hide the fact that the convhction rate for rape has fallen by 5.6 in

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the last four years. It is now just over 56%. The conviction rate for

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domestic abuse has fallen as well. Something has happened therd. I

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welcome the review of what that is. A Kerry direction is needed as to

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what it will take to increase the conviction rate

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particular. The honourable gentleman has taken an interest in thdse

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matters and he is right to raise those issues. I remind him `gain

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that volumes continue to increase to the highest ever levels. I have

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mentioned rape but to domestic violence levels have risen `s well,

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so that is a result for thotsands of victims. The key for the attorney

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and I is to make sure that the prosecution don't bring charges and

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then drop them without good reason, allow them to go to jury so the jury

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and magistrates can make decisions. May I take a contrary view `nd say

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that we all know that a colleague of ours was found innocent of rape and

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a young student was recentlx found innocent of rape. It is important

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that the Crown Prosecution Service do not prosecute people likdly. If

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they think they are innocent, they should make sure they are not

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prosecuted. Can I assure my honourable friend that the

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prosecution in every case mtst apply the test of reasonable chance of

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conviction, and whether that is in the public interest. That should

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apply to everyone, no matter whether they are in this House or any other

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part of the country. It equality before the law and the

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evidence must be followed wherever it leads. Despite what the Solicitor

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General has said, the fact hs that conviction rates for rape and

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limited abuse have fallen. There needs to be more done to reduce the

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instances of these offences, as well as doing more to support victims. We

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on this site make a manifesto commitment to reduce a Bill, as the

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Welsh government has done. Ht would enable revisions to set a

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Commissioner, to set minimul standards to tackle sexual `nd

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domestic violence. Can the Government to do the same qtestion

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can I welcome her to her position? It is a pleasure to see her. We have

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worked in the South Wales ldgal fraternity together for manx years.

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This government is absolutely committed to the funding and the

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combat of violence against women and girls. There is a cross minhsterial

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group that meets regularly, which I'm a member, we have introduced

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legislation to criminalise coerced control, we have increased the

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powers that the police and the persecution service have at their

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control. That is why the conviction rates have increased.

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For the purposes of clarity, I am not a member of the Welsh ldgal

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fraternity either! After thd tragic events in Paris last month, we have

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asked for a review into the legal framework and the investigatory

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processes relating to inciddnts involving the police use of

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firearms. I will play my part in that review, which will conclude

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later this year. My name max suggest otherwise, but Wales is not my home.

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Mr Speaker, last week, I met with the chief cars will for Sussex and

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we agree that our firearms officers do a job which is difficult and

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often dangerous. They are more lightly than ever to be called upon

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to perfect the public. They understand that they will nded to

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account for the actions if they use lethal force. Is the Attorndy

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General comfortable but our authorities support this balance

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Gresham and I agree with my honourable friend. Although, as he

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says, it is important that hncidents are properly investigated, but it is

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also important to treat polhce officers fairly. If we need to

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recruit more officers to do the difficult work of using firdarms,

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and we need to retain experhenced firearms officers, they need to feel

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the system will protect thel fairly. That is what I hope this review will

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do. Whilst I have to observe thd

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proprieties of the law officers Convention, the governorate welcomes

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the clarity that the judgment provided, in which any assessment of

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vulnerability must be made, looking at the circumstance of anyone's

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situation. Homeless people `re inherently vulnerable. Can the

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Solicitor General be sure that as the law currently stands, there is a

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safety net that is provided for honourable homeless people who are

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unintentionally homeless? I am grateful, I commend him for the

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concerned were what he has done on this issue, both in the caphtal and

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generally. The Government convene in that case -- into being in that case

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because there is a concern that it will

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