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questions. The first question is on support for soldiers making legal

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claims following injuries from the Iraq war.

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Orderquestions to the Secretary of State for Defense. Mr Speaker, this

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government believes we can and will succeed in reforming and

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renegotiating our relationship with the European Union. The cornerstone

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of our security however is Nato, while the EU plays a significant

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role in,, lamenting them. Defense remains a sovereign issue. When the

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Prime Minister told us he was in no doubt that the European question is

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not only a matter of economic security butt of national security,

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was he right or wrong was ... Use right that it does play a

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part. Would my honourable friend like to remind the honourable member

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how many times in its tenure inception DEQ battle troops have

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been deployed? The EU Battle groups have not yet been deployed. That you

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does have five significant missions at the moment where it is

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complementing in areas where Nato does not become involved. With a

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minister like to comment on the impact of the Anglo-French military

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relationship? He will be aware that there are many programmes, joint

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programmes that are underway. That is likely to be affected if the EU

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was to pull out... I see no reason why they should be. The Minister

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would have seen in the press another veteran who is struggling to access

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the care that she deserves and on top of the report last week would he

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agree with me that now is the time after putting so much into the

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government, to take radical reform on this and address the care

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required in the veteran sector. I sure my honourable friend's concern

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in this area and he may wish to put a question on this to my honourable

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friend the excellent honourable and gallant friend, the excellent

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minister for veterans shortly. We can do that now? How shortly remains

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to be seen. Not in the honourable gentleman smiled nor in mind. If

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there's a possible that exit, what is the impact that will have on

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armed services personnel currently in operations with the EU... As far

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as I can see, none. Good. Splendid. The Minister is quite liked to

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remind the House that at the cornerstone of our national security

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is our membership of Nato. Hear! Does the Minister agree with me that

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if the British people vote took leave the European Union there is

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absolutely nothing to stop this country working with our European

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neighbors and cooperating if they choose to do so. My honourable

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friend is quite right. We all agree, in fact, both sides used agree that

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the cornerstone of our defense is a nuclear armed Nato. Of course, my

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honourable friend is right in saying that under any scenario we will be

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continuing to cooperate with the other members of the EU, majority of

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whom belong to Nato anyway. I am glad to hear the Minister gave his

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support. On that note, will be explained as a single way in which

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less cooperation with our partners is going to increase our national

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security? Nobody is suggesting less cooperation on defense matters with

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our European partners or anyone else. Very well with him saying

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that, but the fighting project, is one example of how working together

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with our European partners only creates thousands of jobs, boost

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exports and secures crucial sovereign capabilities. Can the

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Secretary of State who is... Can the Minister was supposed to be part of

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the group wanting to boost the industry, give us an example of a

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single UK manufacturer that boost the UK leaving the European Union at

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this moment? The typhoon that he gives as an example of collaboration

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was a collaboration between Nato countries. I am not sure I fully

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followed the remains of his question. It was something about the

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things many structures, let's be clear Nato unlike the EU is the

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central plank of our defense policy. Number two Mr Speaker. Our military

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training in Ukraine will continue and we have plans to increase our

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footprint. Today we plan to get a further three and a half thousand --

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three 500, give response to a specific request from the Ukraine

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and will be delivered in the spring. When the Ukraine gained independence

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in one to keep the option of getting nuclear weapons... It has been its

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overworked. Following the Nato summit in Wales, British troops have

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been deployed in a training war in the Ukraine. Can a minister update

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as to the success that has been hacked in improving the training of

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the Ukraine and Armed Forces to make sure they have a fair fight against

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Russian backed aggression? I think the honourable gentleman he is right

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to point out how our committal to that helps our influence. As I can

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reassure him that we are on target to reach training, and 2000

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Ukrainian troops by the end of this financial year. I'm sure the first

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aid kits are very welcome in the Ukraine, but if we're going to be

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serious about supporting them who was under such pressure from this

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regime of President Putin in Russia. Surely he will be doing much more

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visible and helpful work for the Ukraine. Some of that will be

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tightening the sanctions on Russia, that is what they don't like and

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that is what has been successful. Tightening the sanctions, week by

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week not by month. The honourable gentleman will be aware that that is

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what we are doing. We have argued for sanctions to our work with Nato.

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We are doing much more than supplying first aid kits, we are

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doing a huge amount capacity building in those Armed Forces. We

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have given them a huge amount of equipment, particularly to protect

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them from the cold weather in which they are operating in. I know

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they're very grateful for that. We stand ready to assist them further

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and I'll be visiting the country shortly. Ukraine has been on the

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front line of the expansionist agenda of Putin, but they are not

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alone in Eastern Europe. In a minister say what assistance the

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Nato and European Union, the United Kingdom is given to a number of

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countries particularly the Baltic states to try and combat some of

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that expansionism from Russia. We do a huge amount of work with Baltic

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air policing, for example. The huge amount of operational and practical

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work. But also through diplomatic channels as well. We have been very

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active through Nato and the EU in holding Russia's the fire on these

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issues. And progress has been made, we know that recent progress with

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fewer violations of the cease-fire and we will continue to do both of

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those things, practically edible magically. -- feet to the fire on

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these issues. -- and it diplomatically. I hope you'll allow

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me to formally welcome the new shadow secretary and you'll allow me

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to formally welcome the new shadow secretary and her team and regret

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the removal of their mainstream moderate predecessor. Hear! In

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recently, forces have recaptured Sinjar and the Iraqi warming are

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clearing the last pockets of Daesh resistance and Ramadi. Interior

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Daesh forces... Air strikes including those by the United

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Kingdom also inflict it significant damage on Daesh's A-lister oil

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industry reducing its revenues by around 10%. -- elicit. I welcome the

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Secretary of State has to say. Kenny what he considers the measures

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necessary to put in place to ensure that all members of the Coalition

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intensified their efforts against Daesh? I'll be meeting with my

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counterparts from Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands

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and the United States to review the overall direction of the counter

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Daesh campaign. We have made some good headway in both Iraq and Syria

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in recent weeks. Now is the time to discuss how to maximize the

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Coalition efforts and how to exploit the opportunities that now arrives

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from the setbacks that Daesh has suffered. A major contributor to

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Daesh activities and capabilities on the ground is the foreign funding

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that it receives him with a minister outlined what measures the UK is

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taking to curb the foreign funding for Islamist groups in particular

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what pressure is he putting on Saudi Arabia and Qatar. I'm grateful to

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the honourable member and this is one of the keys to Daesh survival.

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It is important we maximize our efforts to cut off its sources of

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revenue rather they are internal to, its access to oil revenues and the

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taxes it imposes inside Syria, or indeed external affairs that she has

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described. That is something we'll be discussing in a wider meeting

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with all members the Coalition including the countries that she has

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mentioned. In a wider meeting later on. The Secretary of State will be

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aware that there have been suggestions that is part of the

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constraining Daesh is to use back work of diplomacy does he agree with

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beats that cameo Andrew White of Baghdad when he said in an interview

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on Saturday" you cannot negotiate with them, I have never said that

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about another group of people. they are so different, extreme and

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radical. " This is not put into context everything? I was surprised

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at the suggestion that one could negotiate with Daesh... The strong

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points of the House will recall our having its opponents, burning resin

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is alive throwing gays off of buildings, enslaving young women,

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murdering innocent British tourist in Tunisia. And slaughtering young

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people out on a night in Paris. I felt it to see any particular

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attraction... I do not think that Daesh has any strong points for the

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sector is a benefit. The Prime Minister central argument, there

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were 17,000 freedom fighters ready to take on the ground in Syria, on

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Tuesday the Prime Minister still cannot defend that figure. The

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Secretary of State do that today? I can. That is not my figure of the

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time minister's figure, it is an assessment produced by the joint

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Intel intelligence. I was a gently that it does not think there are so

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many freedom fighters in the city how does he think... How does he

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think that that's a war has lasted for five years, there are people

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love been fighting the Asad regime? With my right honourable friend

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agree with me that a significant is taught by grand forces is the only

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way to deal with Daesh in the longer term? Yes, and the end Daesh will be

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priced out of cities like puzzle in Iraq or Raqqa in Syria by local

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forces. -- Mosul. We have seen some success, like Ramadi. I hope

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eventually other cities along the Tigris and Euphrates, and I hope in

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the soonest the time we will see the similar action in Raqqa. That does

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not mean we should not be getting one now with the full deployment of

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air strikes to do with the infrastructure that supports them.

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May I welcome the honourable lady, I wish her well, there are important

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areas of defense we are in agreement on. Can ask the Secretary of State

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is he agree with the Prime Minister, who totally Liaison Committee last

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week that if people make allegations, we must look at them.

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Let me say to the horrible member, that we do an assessment after every

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rich air strike of the damage that has been caused, we check carefully

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whether it is likely to have been casualties. That is taking into

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account planning and proving the strike in the first place. --

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honourable friend. It's a happened that in the first year of operations

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we are not aware of any civilian casualties so far in our strikes in

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Iraq or indeed the more recent in Syria. These are military

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operations, we do everything possible to reduce the risk of

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civilian casualties, it is not possible to eliminate it entirely.

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Can he confirm therefore that the Minister of defense will now accept

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evidence of civilian deaths from other sources? Cameo sure the House

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that the evidence from highly credible organizations such as the

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Syrian Observatory for human rights, groups working on the ground, and

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are very often the first people on the scene will be considered when

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calculating civilian deaths in the future? Let me assure the honourable

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member that we will look at any evidence forward and open source

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reporting by other organizations in the assessments we make of each of

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the strikes. I have replied directly to one of the organizations he

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mentioned, pointing out replying to them and pointing out to them that

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no particular evidence to back up the assessment they have made in

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that particular case. Could my right horrible friend possibly give the

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House and update on the military and nonmilitary support that has now

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been provided opposition fighters in Syria? -- honourable. We have been

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supplying, along with other countries, equipment to those

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fighters. We play a part in the initial training programme that was

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organized by the United States. We are ready to do so as well. In

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addition to that, we are working with these groups on the political,

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the route to a political... In the talks that have now gotten underway

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under the so-called Vienna process. I like to begin by thanking the

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honourable gentleman for his generous welcome to this job. And

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the honourable member... The honourable gentleman has the honour

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of having perhaps the best job in Westminster, minus the second best.

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Hopefully we can change soon. LAUGHTER

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He can be assured that there are be difficult questions asked and will

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be hoping to work with the government where we can do the sake

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of security of the people in Britain. They have repeatedly warned

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that the RAF has been at full stretch and I was even before the

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air strikes on Daesh began in Syria. A squadron of F 35 sessions but

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ordered. In the meantime the air campaign against Daesh will be

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dependent on 40-year-old aircraft. Can the Minister tell us how he

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believes the air campaign can safely be maintained and what would happen

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if an was to merge? With the RAF have capacity for any further

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operations, further than those with the government will allow them to

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operate under? I think her for her initial remarks in no time ambition

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to move from that side of the House to the side of the House presumably

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shared by the two previous shadow Defense secretaries that have so far

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I have come across. Let me say to her gently that a defense policy of

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nuclear submarines with no nuclear weapons being said Daesh have strong

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points and wants to and the Falkland Island... May be laborers defense

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policy, but it will never be printed's defense policy. In respect

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to her particular question the RAF are deploying a range of aircraft on

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operations in the Middle East, including modern typhoons, unmanned

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aircraft alongside the tornado that she refers to. And I can confirm

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that the RAF are well able to sustain this effort. Question five

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Mr Speaker. The nuclear deterrent is a part of the Defense security

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policy, maintaining continuous requires for ballistic nuclear

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submarines. The nuclear enterprise is gearing up to deliver the success

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of replacement to that submarine. Is it not only keep print save but also

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support over 30,000 jobs across the UK in England and in Scotland. Wells

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in Northern Ireland, they make a significant contribution to the UK

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economy. 30,000 jobs, I pick my honourable friend for his answer.

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Notwithstanding proposals for a nuclear missile boat or summary

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without nuclear missiles, does he know that there are something like

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17,000 nuclear warheads around the world, possibly threatening... What

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is my honourable friend's assessment of the likely risk to national

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security should the missile submarines not perceive. -- proceed.

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He is quite right to highlight the deterrent to our national security.

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I think he was referring to comments over the last 20 for hours, we have

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seen a most extraordinary contortion of merging from the... The idea that

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spending tens of billions of pounds to build, but not Army strategic

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deterrent to trace the new kind of politics from the Labour leadership.

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A breathtaking lack of understanding of how to keep this country safe and

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the consequent effects of the national security and to of jobs

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across the UK. With the Minister agree that it is not just about the

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number of jobs involved in this programme, but the high school

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nature of those jobs, despite comments from my own party over the

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weekend with regard to the shops. Would you agree with me that you

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cannot simply turn it on and off to relieve them? I would like to add my

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tribute to the stoic work the honourable member has done in this

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position both on these binges when he was a defense minister and on

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those binges when he was a shadow, -- binges. Sorry to see him sitting

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in the back now, he is white right to point out that this is a

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long-term endeavor to design and build a nuclear enabled submarine,

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it takes decades. This is a 35 year project I'm initial conception to

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commissioning. Does goes only always a good long time to develop, they

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cannot be switched on and off and they are at the forefront of

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engineering capabilities in this country. Building a nuclear

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submarine is more difficult than sending a man to the moon. In light

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of these astonishing updates from the leader of opposition having in

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summary without actually having... Does my right honourable friend

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agree with me that in the uncertain world it is crucial that the health

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census, nuclear deterrent is continued. I'm grateful for the

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consideration he put. The House appeared to secure the safety of the

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United Kingdom as a whole. We must... We very much hope that as

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many colleagues from across the House when it comes to a vote will

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be able to recognize a consensus on this issue. The placement of the

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nuclear deterrent is of course a sovereign decision of the United

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Kingdom. However, it has made impressions across Nato, should we

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decide not to proceed. With the Minister tell us what he... Should

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we decide not to go through? Are deterrent is a Nato asset, so the

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Nato alliance depends, in part, on our ability to make that asset

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available should the need arise. It is an intense interest in the

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deliberations in this house being taken by our Nato allies and I think

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she's quite right to highlight that. With the Minister agree with me that

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all Nato countries are part of the Nato nuclear alliance based on the

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three members who are in possession of weapons and not to spend all the

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money to have a nuclear deterrent but do not actually have one at the

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end of it would be the worst option of all? I have already indicated I

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think it is completely farcical to spend tens of millions of pounds on

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a weapon that could never be used and therefore could never fulfil the

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deterrent object that it has. I completely agree. In what

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circumstances that he intend to use nuclear deterrent? I think this gets

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to the heart of the confusion that lies at the centre of the Scottish

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nationalist policy. The deterrent has been in use every single day for

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the last 53 years. Approximately 1700 soldiers were

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mobilised to support the flood response in Lancashire, Cumbria and

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Yorkshire. Additional support was provided by an RAF helicopter, Royal

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Navy search and rescue helicopter and these were temporary

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accommodation of the Victoria barracks and violent. As with a

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child service response and included both regular and reserve or this and

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I am sure the whole house would want to join me in danger be to be

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tremendous effort our armed forces made and they they support eight

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divided especially over Christmas. I associate myself with my horrible

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friend's comment about giving support to armed forces who provided

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a fantastic response to the Boxing Day blood in Lancashire. Would she

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just say further was that that been taking to ensure that the Armed

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Forces are held at a heightened state of readiness in case we see a

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return of the flood later on this winter? I think they horrible

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gentleman for his kind words about our Armed Forces. Looking forward to

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the opportunity to also think the public for the very great efforts

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they made to express their gratitude largely in calorific form I

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understand to all of our Armed Forces and I can assure him that we

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are engage with other government retirement and our network of

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regional liaison teams will buckle authorities which is a permanent

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thing that we do. BUK stand-by battalions remained at high

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readiness and if necessary we are able to provide further support very

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quickly if the need arises. I witnessed for myself the crucial

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role that the service is played during the floods over the Christmas

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period. Without their intervention, the situation would have been far

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more serious. The British Army and the rest of the forces get again at

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its best. Despite being overstretched. In light that the

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Army has been cut by 20,000 personnel in the last five years,

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there is a template the percent shortfall in the number of

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reservists and the civilian staff will be cut by 30% before the next

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election. Can the government explain how it can ensure that it is able to

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provide a comprehensive response to future national emergencies that

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alone international crises? I must correct the honourable Lady is not

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only did we not have a shortfall in reservists but we actually are ahead

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of target as well in recruiting reservists. I think close to 9000

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individuals have stepped forward just in the last year alone. We have

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a very strong pipeline in recruiting, but the reason why we

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can't give assurances to the British public opinion down the country when

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such terrible events happen if because we have taken a decision to

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invest in defence and our kids and in our people and to keep our armed

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forces strong. That is how we can reassure people and as we have seen

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over the Christmas period, we were able to generate enormous numbers of

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people when the need arises in short order. I did a terrific job and I

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think that any digestion otherwise is not looking at the facts. I start

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by thanking you Mr Speaker, the students of a school that attended

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the session you ran last week at the school in my constituency the

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feedback has been universally very positive and we are very grateful to

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you. Can I ask the Minister to pass on my sincere thanks and those of my

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constituents to the armed forces for their magnificent support for my

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constituents to in the recent flooding. They came over Christmas

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at very short notice to help out on a whole range of task, where a

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lifeline to many of constituents and we would all like to place on record

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hours that sincere thanks or everything they did at that time. I

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think the honourable gentleman for his kind words. They will have been

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heard by those that went to his constituency, but I will also pass

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them on. With permission, Mr Speaker, I will take much and seven

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and eight together. SDF are made defence engagement in funding call

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MOD task. We're building our capacity to adjust mobile security

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concerns at the sort through and throwing thing partner countries.

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This is inflicting harder countries. Developing a personal defendant

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engagement career stream to a child to be very best. Furthermore, each

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Army at that gate is now aligned to a specific region for training and

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influence purposes. Would the minister just make a comment about

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increasing our security in the region in relation to south tower

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and in the context can I give my apologies on behalf of our

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honourable friend the chair of the defence select committee. He is not

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able to be here this afternoon because he is attending the memorial

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service of Lieutenant Commander David Barton who was a hero who went

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on you 110 during the war and got the code book and machine out. They

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were set up electorally... the code book and machine out. They

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were set up Is a hero and probably sorted the war. I hope the Minister

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can pay JB to him. -- can pay tribute to him. On the Baltics we

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are very conscious of the importance of the Baltics. Most of the

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ministers in this theme including the secretary of state and myself

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have been to visit them and have been well aware of the Ebersole that

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we have carried out there in our programme of exercises. On the tenet

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Commander, Churchill once Wesley said that the only campaign that

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kept him continuously awake at night was the convoy campaign in the

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Western Atlantic. Without that we would have almost certainly lost it.

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As chair of the British Council all party group I am very much aware of

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the importance of soft power, what my honourable friend agree that it

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is only through an investment, continuing investment in both hard

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and soft power that we can continue to play a leading role in protecting

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the world order on which our security and prosperity very much

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depend? My honourable friend is quite right and we are sending

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training emissions now, doing bridal upstream work in a large number of

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countries. These are helping to deliver the environment that is

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needed to prevent the prospect of future wars and conflicts. What role

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does the Minister think that human rights advisors have in developing

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our influence? Human rights advisors to play a role. We have specifically

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within the Armed Forces now a number who specialise in advised on gender

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matters, protecting women in conflict for example. One or two of

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them have put themselves very much in harms way going to advise and

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dangerous behaviours. Since taking office in 2010, the prime minister

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has overseen over ?5.6 billion of military licenses to Saudi Arabia.

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Can I ask the minister if that would be him exercising soft power or hard

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power? We have one of the strictest regimes in the world for controlling

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exports. I would say that exporting to HTML I at a dangerous time in the

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Middle East was smart power. -- exporting to an important ally. Mr

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Speaker our programme to grow the reserve forces remained on track and

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has reversed many years of decline. Central to this is an improved offer

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including better training, better equipment reiteration and an

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improved experience for reservists. 8640 people joined the volunteer

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reserves in the 12 months to the 1st of December. 846% rise on the

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equivalent period a year ago. Trained strength rose to 26,560 well

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I had a target -- warty 6%. -- 46%. Shockingly poor recruitment figures

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have only started to improve since the government raised age limit

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allowing some recruits to join the reserves until their mid-50s. The

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major project authorities judge the plant unachievable. Does the

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government now accept that the Army has been that too far and too fast.

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I do not accept that Mr Speaker. The major project authority report

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Stewart stew is more than a year old. The figures you quoted at the

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target, 35,000 trained is by April 2000 19. We are moving fast in that

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direction. Mr Speaker, given that the self build and custom house

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building act is now on the statute but, does my honourable friend

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consider one way to recruit additional reserves and indeed other

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members of the armed wars that is to create a help to build so that

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service families find it easier to get a piece of land and build a

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house? I will pass my honourable and's ingenious idea Mr Speigel is

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bigger to colleagues and we will look at it or him -- Mr Speaker. As

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the government is built short of its target document is to acknowledge

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the concerns raised by his honourable friend the member for

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about ten and Billy Ricky who has brought that these cuts are leading

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to ability gaps in our Armed Forces? Mr Speaker, we had to take some

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painful decisions when we took over in 2010 as part of the coalition

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government to cut the country was bending or pounds for every ?3

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coming in. -- ?4 for every ?3. After the reshaping we have moved to a

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position where despite there still being some type resistant to take,

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this country have committed to spending 2% on defence and to a

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large expansion of its equipment programme. My honourable friend will

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recall his visit in June of last year to a newly established reserved

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union after a company... Is he as pleased as I am to note that their

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units are already beyond exception strength in the past six months on a

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12 new reservists have started. Doesn't this third the -- show the

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offer to reserve it is attractive with white it does. It was a huge

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privilege to be there. For the re-and operation of reserve power

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troopers in rugby and to have the opportunity to meet a veteran. What

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have the changes had on the reserves and for the regular forces? The

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largest changes in pay have actually been to reservists where we have

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introduced holiday pay for the first time. We have introduced a penchant

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for the first time. It was only available to those who mobilised

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before. I think the minister for the

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recruiting battle we are allowed to do in Northern Island and that we

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have just under 7% of the reserve forces from Northern Ireland against

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3% of the population. Maybe the Minister could look at recruiting

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more in Northern Ireland and we could carry on the backbone of the

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armed services. Northern Ireland has always been a really excellent

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recruiting ground for both regulars and reservists. I am conscious

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author of the fact that beyond the statistics the honourable member

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mentioned a higher proportion of people from Northern Ireland have

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been obliged than any other part of the UK. Gas have been mobilised. My

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department regularly receives representations covering a wide

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range of views on defence matters including the replacement of the

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independent nuclear deterrent. Mr Speaker North Korea recently

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announced that it tested a hydrogen bomb and only yesterday boasted that

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it had the capacity to obliterate the United aides. To what extent

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does my right honourable friend think that North Korea would be

:38:52.:38:55.

deterred in its nuclear ambition by the knowledge that somewhere below

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the surface of the East Dynasty and unarmed submarines was lurking?

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LAUGHTER Let me first of all strongly

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condemned the nuclear test conducted by North Korea which seriously

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threatens regional and international security. This government, let me

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assure my right honourable friend, will not gamble with the long-term

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security of our citizens. We remain committed to maintaining an

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independent nuclear deterrent. The only thing that a nuclear submarines

:39:28.:39:32.

without nuclear weapons is likely to deter is anybody who cares about our

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security from ever voting labour again. If the UK were to go down the

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route of decommissioning its warheads and then in the so-called

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Japanese style and then were to decide that it needed to recommence

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in them at some future point, is that the government assessment that

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it could do so and remain compatible with the nonproliferation treatment?

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Let me make it clear that Japan does not have nuclear powered submarines

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and Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Talk of some Japanese

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option is entirely farcical. So far as the honourable gentleman's

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questions concern we have no intention of decommissioning.

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Question 11 Mr Speaker. We are fully committed to supporting Nigeria and

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its efforts to defeat Boca around. During his visit and number the

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Secretary of State committed to a major increase in UK support to the

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Nigerian Armed Forces with the intent of war than doubling the

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number of British personnel deployed on training passed in the coming

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year. I am very grateful for the minister's response because your DJ

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ties between the United kingdom and Nigeria are important to our

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country. Can the Minister provide more detailed about what the

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deployment of UK troops see anticipates the country making over

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the next 12 months? We expect us to 300 military personnel to be

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providing assistance over the forthcoming year. They angry around

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30 RAF personnel who have been deployed this month to deliver worse

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protection and training to the Air Force and more than 35 personnel

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from the second Battalion, the Royal Anglican Regiment to bullying later

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this month to train Nigerian personnel that lead to combat global

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around. Boca around have operated not only Nigeria but across borders

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in the region. We have also seen -- and Al-Qaeda affiliated. Giving your

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thick even in Burkina Faso over the weekend can see explain what the

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board is given to that country from the UK armed Forces but what that

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are being given up across the region into court against Islamic violence.

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There is a huge effort going on not just from the UK but also with our

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partners. The range of things that we are doing as well as ongoing

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bilateral relationships to build the opacity of their own armed forces we

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provide a huge amount of training. Particularly on the issue of women

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please insecurity. And also tactical support as well. We keep all our

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time to review but a huge amount of work has been done. MOD housing

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supports serving members of the Armed Forces and their families.

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While a margin of unoccupied properties is returned retired gas

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retained,... We have allocated ?40 million from libel finds to support

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projects of running better and accommodation including ?8.5 million

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to Mike Jackson house. I think the minister for that response. We have

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a number of MOD properties currently standing vacant. Will my honourable

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friend agree with me to meet and discuss some of these properties and

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how they could potentially be used for temporary accommodation for

:43:08.:43:13.

military veterans? We do have approximately 10% of our service

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family accommodation unoccupied but we keep it at that level to ensure

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that we can cater for triple postings and people returning from

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overseas. I am not convinced that the use of service accommodation is

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a sustainable way of supporting veterans however there are a number

:43:28.:43:30.

of excellent projects around the country and I would be delighted to

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meet my honourable friend to discuss how we can pursue them in cold

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tester. -- cold tester. To the minister advised the house on the

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government support status for homeless veterans who have mental

:43:46.:43:50.

health double, what more can be done? We continue to provide support

:43:51.:43:55.

for veterans in particular any mental health area. We have invested

:43:56.:43:58.

a lot of money in recent years but we do except that the job is not

:43:59.:44:02.

done. There has been a rise of mental health problems both in

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society and in the armed forces and it is something that we keep under

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constant review and are determined to tackle. Thank you Mr Speaker. Of

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course it will be difficult to respond to the question, it is

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supporting veterans given that 30% of the MOD estate has been sold off.

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Also concerning is the invention of laying off 30% of civilian work

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force including significant job losses in defence equipment and

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support. At the same time, spending on outside expertise has rocketed to

:44:44.:44:50.

some 30% of the DNS budget. Does the Minister accept further lay-offs

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will not only drive up consultancy cost but also further exacerbate

:44:57.:45:01.

these skills shortage which the public accounts committee identified

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as a key reason for the increase is in the cost of military equipment

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overall? I do not accept that and I make absolutely no apologies as a

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result of our SBS are to continue to optimise our defence output. -- SBS

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are. -- SDSR. I had a successful bilateral meeting last Friday of

:45:31.:45:36.

which the ever 35 programme came up. Aircraft in line with estimates,

:45:37.:45:43.

operation capability of the bending and we reliability is improving as

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more aircraft come on stream and into the programme and logistic

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support increases. The aircraft remained on petrol to meet our

:45:51.:45:53.

initial operating capability in December 20 18. Will he reassure the

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house that he will not ring -- bring the current fleet of tornado

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aircraft out of service until the F35 has proven it operation

:46:08.:46:12.

reliability after several years of active service? The outstanding air

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to ground capability of our tornado watch her and has been that all he

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migrated onto the typhoon platform. Initially, in SDSR November we

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figured considerable investment in the RAF combat jet fleet including

:46:30.:46:32.

extending our tornado squadrons out of service date to 2018-19,

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increasing our type in fleet by two swatches and extending the typhoon

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out of service date to 2040. In addition we reaffirmed our

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commitment to acquiring a total 148F35s to rely for the programme

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and buying more aircraft earlier so we have... My priorities are our

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operations against bias which I'll be reviewing that my counterparts

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later this week. And implementation of the security defence review

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decisions to increase the size and power of our armed forces to keep

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Britain's eight. -- keep Britain's faith. -- Dave.

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Can ask my right honourable friend what impact these are DJ defence and

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security review will have on the future size and power of our armed

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Forces. You may recall I serve as patron to the military preparation

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college which has bathed in my constituency of Eastbourne and

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served a keen interest in the next generation of servicemen and women.

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I do recall that and indeed my visit to her constituency surely before

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her election to the way. I map the commitment to increase the defence

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budget every year is our armed for this certainty and stability. We are

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maintaining besides of the Army, increasing the size of the Royal

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Navy, the Royal Air Force and the reserves. We will have more ships,

:48:07.:48:09.

warplanes, more helicopters, more troops at readiness and better

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equipped special forces to protect our people, to project our influence

:48:15.:48:18.

across the world and to promote our prosperity. In the last two days,

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reports of the difficulties faced by veterans suffering from Gulf War

:48:26.:48:29.

syndrome have reminded of how important it is that we recognise

:48:30.:48:32.

the extra Erick devices made by our men and women in uniform. We must

:48:33.:48:35.

not only ensure that our service people are properly or reported but

:48:36.:48:40.

also looked after properly when they finished serving. Can the Minister

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tell the outlets are the message you think it sends that the government

:48:44.:48:47.

has chosen to freeze war pension at a time when the basic state pension

:48:48.:48:51.

is to be protected by a triple log and is set to rise by 2.9%? I think

:48:52.:48:57.

the government have actually got a good record when it comes to

:48:58.:49:01.

supporting veterans. We have seen in recent years unlike the previous

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government major investment when it comes to mental health, veterans

:49:05.:49:11.

accommodation and when it comes to veterans... We have the multi

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million pounds invested when it comes to investing in our veterans.

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Something not done under the previous government. I am sure the

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Minister will know that this year we are proud to Mike the centenary of

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the event the boards or in my constituency. But I invite the

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Minister to commend the work of Jonathan Weil and his demands

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regulate on the challenges they may face in next hundred years? I am

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able to my honourable friend for reminding the house that we do this

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year celebrates 100 years of the outstanding research effort which

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was established in response to the threat from chemical weapons during

:49:49.:49:51.

the First World War. Last week I reported at the house that we

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decided to make the STL and executive agency. I'm looking

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forward to visiting next month and I hope you'll be able to join me to

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think those who do such a fantastic job there. Defence missiles

:50:05.:50:13.

currently being chopped in Syria are estimated to cost in the region of

:50:14.:50:22.

?150,000 each. With such a massive financial commitment to the Minister

:50:23.:50:24.

as her the house that the cost of this campaign are being monitored

:50:25.:50:30.

and that a similar financial contribution will be made towards

:50:31.:50:38.

rebuilding Syria? The honourable Lady is right to identify that

:50:39.:50:43.

assistant munitions are costly. But I can reassure her that we are

:50:44.:50:47.

keeping a very both watch on stockpiles and ensuring that we have

:50:48.:50:52.

sufficient missiles in stock to meet our requirements. As the prime

:50:53.:50:54.

minister has said in his house during the debate over Syria is

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absolutely this government's intend to press for a rebuilding programme

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for Syria when this terrible double war comes to an end. -- terrible

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Civil War. The rules surrounding transportation of rifles and

:51:13.:51:15.

ammunition to make it all but impossible for schools and the debt

:51:16.:51:19.

union to participate in particularly target rifle shooting. Will my right

:51:20.:51:23.

honourable friend meet with me and representatives of the National

:51:24.:51:25.

Rifle Association to discuss how we can get around these that will rule

:51:26.:51:31.

and impractical and safe plan out? I would be delighted to meet with my

:51:32.:51:35.

mobile friend and the National Rifle Association. I should say they'll

:51:36.:51:40.

that while it is clearly a very skilled business, handling

:51:41.:51:44.

youngsters on a rifle range, we cannot find any evidence through any

:51:45.:51:51.

of these for service organizations that there is a particularly acute

:51:52.:51:55.

shortage although there are some individual cases that have been

:51:56.:51:57.

brought to my attention but I would be delighted to have been meeting he

:51:58.:51:59.

the just. -- he's the commando Joe's work across goals

:52:00.:52:09.

across the country placing veterans and costumes to share skills and

:52:10.:52:12.

experiences with young people despite robust evidence of the

:52:13.:52:15.

success of their work their government funding is due to end in

:52:16.:52:19.

March of this year placing the organisation in jeopardy. Will you

:52:20.:52:22.

make representations on it and look at what can be done to allow this

:52:23.:52:27.

hugely important work to continue? I would be delighted to meet with the

:52:28.:52:30.

honourable gentleman to discuss this matter and the if we can pursue it.

:52:31.:52:39.

Does my right honourable friend agree that any moves to weaken our

:52:40.:52:44.

commitment to an independent nuclear deterrent or our leading role in

:52:45.:52:48.

Nato will make us less safe? Absolutely. Our independent nuclear

:52:49.:52:55.

deterrent is the ultimate ear and Nato's security and necessary

:52:56.:53:00.

insurance in an increasingly dangerous and uncertain world. Our

:53:01.:53:04.

can conventional nuclear capabilities underwritten by our

:53:05.:53:09.

commitment to spend 2% of GDP on defence support our leading role in

:53:10.:53:12.

Nato which remained at the heart of our. This government will not put

:53:13.:53:18.

our security at risk. The armed forces are facing here is SNL

:53:19.:53:23.

shortages in some of the most crucial nationalist trade including

:53:24.:53:25.

nuclear engineers and white technicians. Given that a great deal

:53:26.:53:31.

of the expertise is in MOD civilian workforce, which the government is

:53:32.:53:36.

planning to cut by 30%, can the and how the government plans to ensure

:53:37.:53:39.

that operational capabilities are protected when the pets go ahead?

:53:40.:53:48.

For particular point in trade there are particular programmes that are

:53:49.:53:52.

ongoing to ensure that we retained people but we also recruit. Those

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training people are offering apprenticeships but also allowing

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people to move in from the private sector. Those principles are well

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established, we are going to also be introducing into our worth is more

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flexible working patterns to allow more of that to happen and allow

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people to move from regular to reserve forces into civilian

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contacts and then back into the Armed Forces. This is very much the

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direction of travel and for each trade there is a particular plan

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which is going very well. In fact I think this month we have started

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recruiting apprenticeships into nuclear engineering 35 have started

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this month alone. Could be secretary of state explain was that the MOD is

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taking to release their blessed land for housing and could he also

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explained what progress the MOD has made in selling or renting the

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control centre in water beach? As part of the government prosperity of

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gendered the MOD is omitted to really demand for 55,000 housing

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units in this Parliament. I am delighted to announce the first

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block size which will contribute some ?500 million of land received

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will be reinvested into defence and more than -- provide more than

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15,000 potential housing units. I will place a full list of sites in

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the library of the house and I had written to be an view concerned.

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I've had to be in a position before the end of the year to provide

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further details including a full list of sites effective. With regard

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to my honourable friend own constituency I confirm that the

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whole of that site has now been transferred to our civilian delivery

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partner. Does the Secretary of State have any

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more concerns about the arms in Saudi Arabia giving its rates and

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the fact that it has been documented by Amnesty International by others

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that is a clear risk of UK arms being used to read... The United

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Kingdom has some of the strictest arms export criteria in the world.

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We are obviously concerned that were any of our arms are exported to

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their use should be in full compliance with international

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humanitarian law and that is something I discussed regularly with

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my counterpart the deputy crown prince, the defense minister of

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Saudi Arabia and my other colleagues. My right honourable

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friend inform what support they are offering veterans making claims for

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what happened during the Iraq war? Let me make it clear to My Noble

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friend that we take it seriously our duty to provide support for the

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balloon may be facing proceedings arising from the past service would

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pay for independent legal advice in all such cases. I am extrema

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concerned that the number of claims now being brought on an industrial

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scale and we are considering steps to stem the outflow with options

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including restricting legal aid, limiting the time in which claims

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can be brought in limiting the territorial advocation of the rights

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that those claims are in. I'm convinced that Trident has a crucial

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role to play in the defense of our country. The economic aspects are

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important as well and there are a huge number of workers in our

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country waiting with some anxiety to see whether or not Parliament is

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prepared to pick a final approval for success the programme. And I

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asked was suggested to give an assurance that he will not allow any

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unnecessary debate to get in the way of the need to bring the main gate

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proposals to the floor of his house for debate in the decision? I give

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the honourable Lady the assurance she seeks. It takes more than ten

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years to build one of the submarines and we need to get on and replace

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the existing boats that will be obsolescent towards the end of the

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20 20s we have set out our commitment in the strategic review

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at the end of November to replace all four bodes and I hope it will

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not be too long before Krugman is asked to endorse that commitment. --

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boats. -- Parliament. Despite the obvious differences with Russia over

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Crimea and the Ukraine will the Secretary of State give assurance

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that he would redouble efforts to engage with his Russian counterparts

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on fighting collaboratively against Daesh and Syria? I do not have to

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tell my... I am not currently engaged in any discussions with my

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Russian counterpart. The illegal annexation of Crimea and 2014 and

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Russia's continuing support to separatist in eastern Ukraine do not

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allow a return to normal engagement. However, in the interest of air and

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maritime safety, I have authorized MOD officials to undertake limited

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military to military engagement with the Russians to ensure that our own

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airspace is properly protected. ... Also Chauveau Forge Masters, the

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Secretary of State said the government position is to

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maintain... Will be used in British filled? The honourable gentleman

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will be interested in a statement that immediately follows these

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questions in relation to what the government majors are making in

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British steel. We are keen to ensure that British manufacturers have an

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opportunity to compete for defense contracts with significant steel

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components and they'll be continuing to be the case. On Thursday have a

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great pleasure to company my visiting the defense support

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decision... Man salute this innovation by my honourable friend

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who is doing fantastic work and assessing Britain's defense need and

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as well as assessing the technology opportunities. May ask my honourable

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friend to give continuing thought to the effort of the high-altitude

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record-holder which fantastic surveillance... In which my great

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friend and late friend was a part of. I'm very grateful to my

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honourable friend for giving me the credit for establishing the defense

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solution center it would only be fair to the House into my future

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career if I placed the credit where it is properly due at the feet of my

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right honourable friend the Secretary of State and his former

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role. I did enjoyed our visit to the DFC, bait are doing a great job to

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place UK innovation of the heart of the defense industrial supply chain

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globally endangered he would have noted that in the STS are we did

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make reference to investing in a unique British capability for

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advanced surveillance was I know will interest him. -- which I know.

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The placement of the nuclear weapon system, how much does the government

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think that will cost? As to make crystal clear in the -- SCSR we

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recalculated the cost which we estimated at ?31 billion and added a

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?10 billion in to that. We have no intention at this point to replace

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the warhead, a decision on that will be taken later. Therefore, higher to

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the honourable gentleman to focus on the 31 billion MMU plus the 10

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billion commitment as the cost that is relevant today. The Minister of

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State for small business industry and enterprise. Minister of State.

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Mr Speaker, it is with regret that I find myself having to update the

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House on further job losses in the steel sector. This morning Tartarus

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