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Good morning and welcome to live coverage of the House of Commons. In

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one hour, an urgent question is being asked concerning the first

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pub's attributed the macro educateds attributed. Then, a statement from a

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minister for skills, Nick Bowles, on apprenticeships. MPs then move on to

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debate more of the details on the Northern Ireland hell, and later MPs

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return to the debate on keeping copies of legislation. The motion

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regrets the Lord's decision to discontinue the use of Val, the

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parchment made from calfskin. Don't forget to join me for a round-up of

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the day at 11pm. First, questions to the Secretary of State for

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Transport, Patrick MacLachlan and his ministerial team.

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-- vellum. Questions to be Secretary of State for Transport. Highways

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England's delivery plans set out how it would deliver the ?15 billion

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road investment strategy. Work is underway on 19 major schemes,

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several of which started this financial year as planned. Chronic

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congestion causes delays to thousands of commuters on the 27 at

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junctions nine and iron, and with Fareham set to C 6000 new homes at

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Welbourne and thousands more at North Whiteley, what steps are you

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taking to ensure vital upgrades to this piece of infrastructure are

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carried out as a matter of priority? I know this particular scheme is of

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interest to my honourable friend. The departments is working with

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highways England and Hampshire County Council on a way forward is

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to improvements to junction nine on the M25 in. I will ensure you are

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kept informed of progress. A separate scheme to improve junction

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ten of the M27 is being funded by private developer and the local

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enterprise partnership, but I am more than happy to continue keeping

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my honourable friend updated on this matter. Is the Minister will know,

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junctions 12 to 14 of the M26 have seen accidents in recent years and

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there is a need for some form of managed motorway so do you share

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disappointment that a publication this week makes no mention of this?

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When will his department to take action? I will look at the

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individual points you have raised but I think the very fact that we

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have a road investment strategy far superior to anything that existed

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before 2010, I would have thought you would have welcomed that was not

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will my right honourable friend except that my constituents are

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warmly welcoming the investment being made in upgrading the A12 to

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three lanes? -- accept. Can you advise me when you expect phase one

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from the M25 to the southern border of Chelmsford to commence progress?

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I am grateful for his point. In December 2014, the government

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announced a scheme to widen the A12 from junction 20 82 Chelmsford. --

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28th. The scheme will be developed until 2020 and we expect the next

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period to be developed until March 20 25. What assessment he has the

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departments made of the M66 and M6 is south of that, which is called

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the busiest road? It is jam-packed from 6am until 10am every morning,

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what is being done to resolve this situation? Investment on a far

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greater scale than ever imagine by the party he supported in government

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is the simple fact. The ?16 billion is greater investment than we have

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seen in our road network for a number of years. One of the critical

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parts of the road investment strategy is to improve safety and on

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that note could I ask the secretary of state to look at safety

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particularly over the last few months at the junction of the A303

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and A34, and there have been a number of accidents there and I

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believe safety can be improved. I am more than happy to ask officials to

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look at that and I will report back to you. The road investment strategy

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is really important but we know that every journey begins on a local road

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and the vast majority of journeys are made on local roads and some are

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in quite a state. Last November, two great fanfare, the pothole fund was

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announced, and we hope it is permanent action on potholes. Can

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you tell us how much is being drawn down by councils on that pothole

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front? How many have been filled in so far? He wants devolution and then

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he once the government to say exactly what is local authorities

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should do in every circumstance. The simple fact is that between 2015 and

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2020, allegations have been made to local authorities of ?6 billion.

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Between 2010 and 2015, that was ?4 billion. Between 2005 and 2010, the

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amount allocated to local authorities for road maintenance was

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?3 billion. I think he will see from that a significant increase in what

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this government is giving for road maintenance. I thought he would have

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welcomed it. Will my right honourable friend recognise the

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urgent need for clarity about the capacity of junction eight on the

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M11 motorway and the possibility of there being a junction seven hey

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because these have a bearing on decisions being made against a

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deadline by local authorities on local plans? -- 7A. I am grateful he

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raised the case and I will write to my honourable friend on what

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progress is being made on the exact location. This department is

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providing over ?7 billion to the devolved local road fund which will

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fund over 500 local transit or projects by the end of this

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Parliament. It includes ?475 million for transformational schemes that

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are too large for the devolved allegations. We will provide further

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details very soon. May I make a plea to the Minister, when will some of

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the ?75 million be used to reduce noise pollution, identified by

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Highways England on the A47 through Peterborough? It is part of the

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strategic road network so it is not part of the money I just announced

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but in November 2014, the Chancellor announced money for the A47,

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including the section between the A1 and Peterborough. In terms of noise

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pollution, the government has challenged Highways England to

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mitigate noise in 1000 locations, and reductions could mean barriers

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and new services. Transport North published a report this week which

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looks at both local and regional links and act is to the national

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network and it puts forward ambitious schemes for improvements

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to rail transport between Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds, and better

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access to the high-speed network, what kind of coordination will there

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be to make sure it happens? Eight road and rail, particularly in terms

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of freight and HS2 will open up new freight part which can be used to

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take the pressure of the roads, so coordination on that is vital and

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wee -- and we are working with Transport North, and I am unliveable

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later on today. -- paths. It is easier to access the tens of

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thousands of jobs travelling from the East End, what support can the

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Minister give my residence on Canvey Island who have been campaigning for

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a third road for many decades? New road infrastructure can warm the

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economy and prove like macro -- and provide access to jobs and we will

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announce further funding options is very soon. I hope the honourable

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lady will continue to make the coast case for this project with the local

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enterprise partnership and County Council. The port facilities are

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superb and it is important we give them the infrastructure to back them

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up. Large infrastructure projects have been the hallmark of the

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Scottish Government since they came to power in 2007, too many to list

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here. Issues such as the Borders rail link, the trunk Link road, and

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the Pope to Inverness a nine Juli Inkster. Scotland is investing twice

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as much on transport as England and this includes active travel projects

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like cycling. -- A9. Last year, the government made an announcement of a

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new access funds, up to 2021. Can the government clear up the

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confusion by when this fund is going to go ahead? It is interesting you

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did not mention the high-speed rail line between Edinburgh and Glasgow

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which has been conveniently shelved. SNP control Perth and Kinross

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Council and they have decided that potholes have to be 60 millimetres

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deep before they fill them in. That indicates what their priorities

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might be in some cases. The Minister and I may disagree on many things

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but one of the things we agree on the benefits of cycling. The cycle

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to work scheme has been a popular and progressive policy and credits

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to the government for continuing with that. In the summer budget, the

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treasurer said it was monitoring sacrifice arrangements because they

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were becoming increasingly popular. Aggressive policies in Scotland are

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something the government support there. Can the Minister confirm that

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he is working to make sure the Chancellor protects cycling to work

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schemes in the forthcoming budget? I think you may have to be patient and

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wait for the budget but I feel the cycle to work scheme is a good

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scheme and large numbers of people are using the cycle is to get to

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work and it is a good way to reduce congestion on our roads.

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The Government understands the importance of affordable transport,

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and we have capped rail fares at the level of RPI for two years running,

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and will do so for the life of this Parliament. Decisions regarding the

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setting of fares are by merrily a decision for commercial operators.

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Almost ?1 billion is provided each year to fund concessionary travel

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including free bus travel for the elderly and disabled. More than 2500

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people commute into Bradford, and 7000 commute out of Bradford by

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rail. Fast, cheap and efficient connections with the rest of the

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region are vital for jobs and the local economy. What is the minute --

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what is the minister doing to make sure that this happens, considering

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that rail fares across the country have gone up by 25%, while

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punctuality has deteriorated? Well, I know the city of Bradford very

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well, having got to school there and I lived just outside it for many

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years. I would have thought the honourable gentleman would be

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welcoming the investment we are seeing in rail. Apperley Bridge

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railway station only just opened in his constituency. So we are seeing

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investment right across the north, including in West Yorkshire,

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including the ability to keep fares down for the Metro region. I will

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repeat my point about how we have regulated and capped rail fares. One

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of the problems for local bus passengers is congestion and delays.

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People in Kettering always say that when the traffic lights stop

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working, the traffic flows much better. Given that the minister is

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responsible for local roads, will he consider undertaking a pilot where

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we can switch traffic lights off and get traffic and buses flowing more

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freely? That is a very ingenious link into the cost of public

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transport, Mr Speaker. I hear it quite regularly in my own area as

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well that traffic is said to flow more freely when traffic lights do

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not work. I have major reservations on this argument, I have to say. At

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the same time, we are seeing initiatives to keep traffic flowing.

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I will have a look at what my honourable friend says, but traffic

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lights are a key ingredient in road safety. People in Yorkshire would

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not mind paying the fares on a good trans pen I link. Indeed ministers

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have already said they will be using that kind of transport tomorrow. I

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hope they will stop off in Huddersfield to celebrate the

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centenary of Harold Wilsons's berth, which is tomorrow. We would not mind

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paying the fares if the delivery of the service was fast, efficient and

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comfortable. The honourable member has forgotten I think the investment

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which is being made and the improvements which are coming

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through the franchise. Both of those see significant improvements for

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Huddersfield, including London connections. Would he agree that

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thanks to the governments action to increases, wages are now rising

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faster than rail fares for the first time since 2003? He makes as wise a

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point as ever. We are trying to make sure that regulator rail fares are

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affordable. We are seeing a wide range of tickets on offer, including

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some very low-priced fares which can be bought in advance, allowing more

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people to travel by rail. You only have to look at passenger number

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grows to see how it is working. Figures for Northern Ireland show

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that passenger numbers have fallen. Outside of London, numbers have

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fallen. Can I ask the minister, what steps can he take to encourage more

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people to cycle or walk to work where possible and encourage

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healthier lifestyles? Well, we have an element in the road investment

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strategy to promote cycling. We have our own cycling and walking

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strategy, which the minister has already referred to.

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Telford has more than 1 million passengers each year. I was pleased

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to negotiate services with virgin trains in 2014 from Shrewsbury to

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London via Telford and Birmingham. We are currently running a public

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consultation to help specify the next West Midlands franchise. We

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will launch a consultation on the new west coast franchise in June. I

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thank the minister for his reply. Telford is a rapidly growing new

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town and it is 26 miles from Birmingham, and yet it takes 51

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minutes to get there. Will the minister continue to work with me to

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make sure we have a 21st century rail system for Telford? I most

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certainly will. I recognise the growing importance of connectivity

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between cities. The point which my honourable friend makes about

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Telford and the relationship with Birmingham is very, very important

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indeed. The Secretary of State knows Wolverhampton well because of his

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youth and because he fought a Parliamentary seat there. He will

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know that trains from Telford to Wolverhampton to Birmingham to

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London are far slower than trains from Stafford to London because of

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the bottleneck through the West Midlands. When will the government

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get around to quad-tracking the commentary to Birmingham corridor? I

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do know the area well, but we have seen major investment in the West

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Midlands. The new service which I have just referred to, which is

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re-establishing a service from Shrewsbury via Telford, was very

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welcome. But he is right, there are always demands for extra investment,

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and that has to be measured with the record investment we are putting

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into our railways. Cannock Chase is also connected to Birmingham with a

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local line via Telford. It is a service which my right honourable

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friend knows incredibly well. Users of that line report multiple issues

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including late, overcrowded and cancelled trains. Can my right

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honourable friend confirm that the electrification project is on course

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for completion by 2017? I am grateful. I was in her constituency

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just a few weeks ago. I had noticed on that occasion how the line which

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runs through Hednesford to Cannock has already had its work started on

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electrification, not least in Stafford lane and down by Brinley

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Heath. I do know the area very well. It is where I grew up. The

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governments ambition is for the UK to have the facilities and

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regulatory environment in place for commercial space in this Parliament.

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There is the aim of announcing the process for spaceport selection

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later this year. As the member for Argyll and be, I will continue to

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champion the location in my constituency to be the UK spaceport.

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It has considerable advantages, including a three kilometre runway

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and the backing of the community. When will the next stage of this the

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announced, and can hear sure all of those working so hard to bring this

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project that the government is still 100% committed to the creation of a

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UK spaceport? I can certainly confirm that. The Department of

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Transport has made an initial allocation of ?5 million to fund it.

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I think it is a great opportunity. We are already world leaders in

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space technology. This is a further step in pushing forward the barriers

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of Jewish involvement in the space race. -- of British involvement. Can

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I thank the minister for his recent visit to Cornwall and Newquay

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airport? Can he confirm that he went away with a clear message, that not

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only can Cornwall accommodate the spaceport but is very ambitious to

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be the English bid for the spaceport? Suddenly I got a clear

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message and was taken up by the enthusiasm of the people at new K. I

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know there are other airports interested in this. I did notice

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when I was at Prestwick, it seemed quite quiet when I was there. We are

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very aware of the importance of bus services to rural communities. We

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were able to protect the bus service operators grant funding as part of

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the spending review last year. The government paid out ?250 million

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last year to support bus services, of which around ?40 million is paid

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directly to local authorities. I think the minister for that

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response. Will you agree to look into the provision of buses in rural

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parts of my constituency for local students travelling to school,

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compared with national averages, and advise on how we can improve this?

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All children aged between five and 16 qualifying for free school

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transport if they attend their nearest school and it is

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sufficiently far from their home. The decision to provide further

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services would be a matter for the local authority, and some do, such

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as the Stafford Justine. But there is an issue which is concerning my

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honourable friend and I would be happy to meet with him to explore it

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further. One section of our population which is disadvantaged by

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poor rural services is young people. What is the government doing on

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this? There is a mixture of support coming through national government

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and through local government. Individual local authorities decide

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their funding priorities, but local authorities in England spent an

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average of ?330 million per year over the last three years supporting

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bus services. 42% of bus income comes from public funds. Could I

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invite the minister to look at rural bus service provision in eddies

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brief, where cuts have meant that apprenticeships cannot access

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apprenticeships and college students cannot get to the local college

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without having to change two buses? -- Eddisbury. I would be very happy

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to meet with my honourable friend. Access to bus services is very

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important to all. Government tax makes up 70% of the cost of fuel.

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Does the minister agree there should be a continued freeze in fuel duty

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to help improve costs for bus services in rural areas? Fuel duty

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itself might be something which the Chancellor would wish to consider. I

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can highlight the bus service operators grant, which used to be

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caught the fuel duty rebate, which provides 34.5p subsidy per litre of

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fuel used. So we are supporting local authorities and bus companies

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through that mechanism. Subsidy for all 118 supported bus routes in

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Oxfordshire is being withdrawn. Earlier this week I travelled on the

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popular 215 service along with the excellent Labour and co-operative

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councillors who are campaigning to protect their local bus networks.

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Will the minister join me in welcoming the fact that some

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additional funding has now been secured for local transport on a

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cross-party basis? And does he agree that when the Buses Bill is

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published, it must address the severe challenges facing rural bus

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services, including in the Prime Minister's in situ and see? I would

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just like to remind the honourable lady -- constituency -- that this

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service has been protected. I am always lead to hear that local

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authorities are supporting their bus services. We should be supporting

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local authorities in deciding their funding priorities. Mr Speaker, I am

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really proud that under Conservative-led governments since

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2010, my department has made almost ?400 million available through

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programmes like the national stage and improvement programme, the New

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Stations Fund the Access For All scheme. In addition, we have

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franchise commitments and substantial growth funding. What is

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she doing to make sure that the rail franchise holders bear their fair

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Chair to maintain the rail structure wallet but will show we should look

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at how the project in Coventry is working out regarding the frequency

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of train stops at the Ricoh Arena. Will she have a look at that?

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Improvements to stations are part of the projects. The honourable

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gentleman has benefited locally with Virgin West Coast installation of

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automatic ticket machines in commentary. I was pleased to

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participate in the opening of the Coventry Arena which the DFT

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contributed ?5 million, the first stage of the vital knuckle scheme,

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and that scheme was 14 years on paper under Labour, delivered under

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this government, Angstrom the amazing efforts of the MP for

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Nuneaton. -- thanks to. When we consider railway station

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refurbishment is, we should prioritise disabled access. In my

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constituency, there is not a single accessible rail station so in the

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renewal of the South Western Route franchise, would the consider

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prioritising disabled access at our train stations? I am glad you share

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my excitement about improvements. We set up the the funds and I am happy

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to meet with my honourable friend to discuss. I have nine train stations

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in my agency and half of them are completely unacceptable or people in

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wheelchairs -- for people in wheelchairs. The funding has been

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cut in half, are we doing enough on this? I dispute that the funding has

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been cut in half, the first phase, ?400 million, was delivered, and I

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am keen to look at cost effective ways to improve access for disabled

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people and young mothers with babies for whom a flight of stairs can be a

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real drag. I am happy to discuss it further. Residents in Torbay have

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welcomed investment at Torquay station but a station in Paignton

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was an old good steads shed converted into a station. Will you

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meet to decide how we can make it a terminus for the 21st centric? The

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best way to deliver station improvements is to get together

:29:25.:29:27.

local groups, businesses and communities. The government money is

:29:28.:29:33.

best spent when it is called through to support local needs. -- century.

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What assurance can the Minister give that on the refurbishment of railway

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stations, the objective of gaining full accessibility for passengers

:29:45.:29:47.

with disabilities is embedded within the process is a priority so where

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there are stations without access provision or where the needs are

:29:53.:29:59.

central to the refurbishment of the station? How can that be achieved

:30:00.:30:03.

given the 40% cut to access for all funding? I sometimes wonder if we

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are reading the same papers and this government is spending more on the

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railways, ?38 billion, and has been spent at any time since the

:30:17.:30:19.

Victorian era. You are right to point out that accessibility is

:30:20.:30:24.

important, and all of the train fleet will be compliance within the

:30:25.:30:29.

next few years. It is important to stop we have a limited amount of

:30:30.:30:33.

money to spend, and upgrading the railway which was woefully neglected

:30:34.:30:42.

under his last government. There is already legislation prohibiting the

:30:43.:30:48.

use of lasers on aircraft. It is an offence to direct or shine any

:30:49.:30:52.

lights at any aircraft in flight so as to dazzle or distract the pilot.

:30:53.:30:56.

Anybody found guilty of the offence could be liable for a fine of a

:30:57.:31:03.

maximum of ?2500. Anybody found guilty of endangering an aircraft

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could also be liable for five years in prison but we will keep this

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under review of course. I welcome the previous changes that I backed

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but the fact is that more needs to be done. Half of pilots over the

:31:18.:31:22.

last year have reported a laser pen attack. Perhaps licensing or

:31:23.:31:31.

classification should be considered to put a stop to these dangerous

:31:32.:31:36.

practices. A number of measures are being considered across government

:31:37.:31:40.

departments, it is something I take very seriously, particularly in

:31:41.:31:46.

light of recent events reported. Following my conversation with the

:31:47.:31:50.

secretary of state for just this, I put forward a Bill to make sure

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high-powered laser pens are prohibited item. Will the secretary

:31:54.:31:58.

of State speak with him to see if the Bill can be taken forward? The

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member opposite makes the point that it is about the accessibility of

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certain types of laser pens which should be controlled. I'm aware of

:32:09.:32:12.

the Bill and I can assure him that not only will I talk to the

:32:13.:32:16.

Secretary of State for Justice but we are talking to other departments

:32:17.:32:20.

as well. This issue is something which is taken very seriously

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indeed, and I will also listen to representations made to the

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Department by the CAA. This issue has had coverage in the media over

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the last few months, the number of incidents has rocketed and no more

:32:40.:32:42.

so than in my neighbouring Glasgow where there were more are aircraft

:32:43.:32:47.

targeted in the first two months of this year than the whole of last

:32:48.:32:53.

year. Have you made any representations to the Scottish

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Government and can you show it to the House? I am more than happy to

:32:57.:33:02.

ensure the Scottish Government is consulted if further measures are

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taken. This is something that is taken seriously by all sides of the

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House, and I welcome the point the honourable lady has made. I have no

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plans. The secretary of state will be aware that Treasury backed sure

:33:25.:33:30.

reports, the final version published next week about the financing of

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railways has made it clear that full privatisation of Network Rail is on

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the table. -- Shaw. I am sure the Minister will agree that we do not

:33:44.:33:47.

want to go back the dark chaotic days of the private management of

:33:48.:33:53.

our rail system under Railtrack and will he commits himself to reject

:33:54.:33:59.

any new recommendations that leads to the privatisation of Network

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Rail? I would like to congratulate the honourable member of seeing a

:34:07.:34:08.

report which has not been published yet X macro how he knows what the

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content is is beyond me! I am proud with what we have achieved with the

:34:18.:34:21.

rail industry in this country, it has been a fantastic success with

:34:22.:34:24.

the franchising that takes place, I am very sorry that the only people

:34:25.:34:29.

putting it at danger are not the government that the opposition. Does

:34:30.:34:34.

my right honourable friend agree that evidence from other sectors

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shows that privatisation has the potential to increase efficiency and

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improve performance? Ie Do agree but I also think there is obviously

:34:45.:34:50.

responsibility the four a system of railway maintenance and improvements

:34:51.:34:56.

that is very important, and we have seen through the private sector,

:34:57.:35:02.

vast improvements. At the time of radicalisation of our railways,

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there were 700 and million people using trains and last year there

:35:06.:35:09.

were 1.6 billion and that figure is growing year on year so I do not

:35:10.:35:13.

have to be convinced about the advantages of the system which has

:35:14.:35:19.

evolved over a number of years of using the private sector, and I will

:35:20.:35:23.

look at other ways we can involve the private sector in providing a

:35:24.:35:26.

better railways nervous for our constituents. Network Rail has

:35:27.:35:33.

confirmed it has considered selling up to 18 major stations and a number

:35:34.:35:39.

of other asset as it struggles to plug the 2.5 billion budget black

:35:40.:35:44.

hole, would you like to comment on that? The way you talk about the

:35:45.:35:47.

black hole, we are investing over this way away period some ?38

:35:48.:35:56.

billion in Network Rail. -- railways. I don't see anything wrong

:35:57.:36:04.

with that and indeed there were a number of asset sales which took

:36:05.:36:08.

place under the last government as well. When the secretary of state

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reads the Shaw report, I hope he recognises the words of the great

:36:18.:36:21.

railway manager who said that when you reorganise you bleed, and for

:36:22.:36:25.

many months, the few top people who keep their momentum up are

:36:26.:36:28.

distracted from their proper job, punctuality goes to hell, said he

:36:29.:36:35.

slips, don't reorganise, don't, don't, don't. There is broad

:36:36.:36:40.

cross-party support for investment in railways, maintaining the safety

:36:41.:36:45.

record and delivering projects like HS2, so will he give me reassurance

:36:46.:36:48.

that the progress that has been made will not be jeopardised by pursuing

:36:49.:36:54.

a needed, unneeded, and unwonted plans to privatise Network Rail? I

:36:55.:37:00.

can tell you with absolute certainty there are no plans to continue a

:37:01.:37:06.

disastrous policy of nationalising the railways, which is one she puts

:37:07.:37:10.

forward and her party leader puts forward. She talks about all the

:37:11.:37:15.

investment going on and she has seen quite a bit of it in her own

:37:16.:37:18.

constituency, not least at Nottingham station and which she

:37:19.:37:24.

welcomed that investment, of course she did, I welcome investment in our

:37:25.:37:28.

railways, but it is also worthwhile asking how we carry on that level of

:37:29.:37:33.

investment, an investment at a level which she would only have dreamt of

:37:34.:37:44.

when she was in government. Mr Speaker, in the north-west, the

:37:45.:37:47.

first ever electric trains are running between Liverpool and

:37:48.:37:51.

Manchester and between Liverpool and Wigan, and the tunnel is now open,

:37:52.:37:56.

further proof that this government's commitments to electrification, part

:37:57.:38:00.

of the biggest investment since Victorian times. Network Rail last

:38:01.:38:04.

month marked a milestone with the introduction of brand-new trains

:38:05.:38:09.

which completed 1377 foundations needed for the overhead line

:38:10.:38:16.

electrification towards Didcot. Thank you for the answer. I have to

:38:17.:38:22.

note that in the Transport for the North document, the focus is on

:38:23.:38:27.

large cities. If the fast-growing regions of Cheshire should not be

:38:28.:38:32.

squeezed out, would you look again at the possibility of better

:38:33.:38:35.

electrification programme that includes areas not mentioned? I

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thought I mention quite a few. The truth is that the investment which

:38:43.:38:47.

is taking place in the northern hub, the redevelopment of Manchester

:38:48.:38:52.

Victoria station, does do a lot to increase connectivity across the

:38:53.:38:54.

North West and that links up a number of the towns which the

:38:55.:38:58.

honourable member refers to directly into our northern cities. Rail

:38:59.:39:04.

commuters in my constituency have put up with severe overcrowding or

:39:05.:39:13.

many years. Because of the delay, can the government examine whether

:39:14.:39:16.

there is any rolling stock available to alleviate overcrowding? We are

:39:17.:39:26.

looking at all problems relating to rolling stock as a result of any

:39:27.:39:30.

delays in the finalisation of electrification. There is a large

:39:31.:39:34.

amount of new rolling stock coming onto our railways over the next five

:39:35.:39:40.

years, not used the new trains but also the new trains on Thames Link,

:39:41.:39:44.

the Siemens contract which is being developed at the moment and coming

:39:45.:39:49.

into operation later this year. There was an awful lot of

:39:50.:39:54.

engineering work to be carried on in Manchester and that will almost

:39:55.:39:56.

certainly require the re-routing of trains through to big Tory while

:39:57.:40:02.

that work takes place. When that happens and we consider using the

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line through reddish South and Denton stations which are currently

:40:08.:40:11.

served by one train a week in one direction only? If it can be

:40:12.:40:16.

re-routed can they please stop at the stations so we can assess the

:40:17.:40:24.

passionate Amant there is there? -- passenger demand. If it is such a

:40:25.:40:31.

bad experience, I am sorry that you have not got better services in the

:40:32.:40:38.

past. I am always willing to look at any suggestions but can I make the

:40:39.:40:42.

point that the first point you made was a serious point, about the

:40:43.:40:44.

problems... LAUGHTER The point that he makes

:40:45.:40:52.

about the problems as far as work being carried out on the railways,

:40:53.:40:57.

engineering work, which does lead to inconvenience while the work is

:40:58.:41:00.

carried out, and that is something we do address, and is something I

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readily talk to the chief Executive and chairman of network rail about.

:41:06.:41:14.

No progress has been made on the electrification in Northern

:41:15.:41:16.

Lincolnshire which is probably one of the reasons why the recent

:41:17.:41:21.

railway magazine had headlines saying railways truly bad for

:41:22.:41:28.

Grimsby. The transport for the North publication this week does not even

:41:29.:41:33.

include northern Lincolnshire routes on its map. Can you assure me that

:41:34.:41:37.

more will be done to improve services to my constituency? Indeed.

:41:38.:41:45.

After a successful campaign, we did manage when we renegotiated the

:41:46.:41:49.

franchises or his area, to protect the services in his area, and I know

:41:50.:41:54.

he has always pressed for greater services to his constituency. It is

:41:55.:41:59.

something I will look up, particularly when the new franchise

:42:00.:42:01.

starts operating later in the year. A great deal of work has already be

:42:02.:42:14.

completed. Actual construction will start next year. Tempted as I am to

:42:15.:42:19.

propose that the government build HS2 some time in the Parliament

:42:20.:42:23.

after next, when it will be seen for the white elephant that it is, then

:42:24.:42:27.

he just reassure me that there is time enough to deal with all the

:42:28.:42:31.

environment of impacts of HS2, for example the construction impact, in

:42:32.:42:34.

the historic village of West Wycombe in my constituency? He did promise

:42:35.:42:41.

me an impatient supplementary question and I was not disappointed.

:42:42.:42:46.

We will have no net environmental loss during the construction.

:42:47.:42:49.

Indeed, 2 million trees will be planted as part of the phase one

:42:50.:42:53.

construction. This is a project that we can be proud of and which people

:42:54.:42:57.

up and down the country will value as part of our economic plans. I

:42:58.:43:04.

rather like elephants, white or otherwise. Let's look at the

:43:05.:43:09.

building of phase two of HS2. Secretary of State has said in the

:43:10.:43:12.

past that serious consideration would be given to the possibility of

:43:13.:43:15.

beginning construction on the northern part of HS2 phase two

:43:16.:43:21.

between Sheffield and Leeds in parallel with work on the southern

:43:22.:43:27.

part? How far has that serious consideration now got, and is there

:43:28.:43:31.

a real positivity that work between Sheffield and Leeds could begin

:43:32.:43:35.

before the very end of the project? It is important that we prioritise

:43:36.:43:39.

the Birmingham bit because that is where the congestion is and that is

:43:40.:43:44.

where the real benefits are. Those trains will run through two stations

:43:45.:43:47.

in the north, and to Scotland, from day one. It is important that we

:43:48.:43:53.

look at how we can deliver this. Indeed, some of the investment at

:43:54.:43:56.

the station locations in the north can go ahead even before the trains

:43:57.:44:01.

reach those locations. Demand for driving tests has increased, and

:44:02.:44:07.

with it, waiting times. The driver and vehicle standards agency is

:44:08.:44:11.

recruiting more examiners, improving its forecasting model to match

:44:12.:44:14.

resources with demand, and redeploying examiners appropriately.

:44:15.:44:24.

We have a particular local problem in the driving centre in my

:44:25.:44:30.

constituency for motorcyclists, where the motorcycle area is

:44:31.:44:35.

regularly covered in moss. Can the minister look into, make sure every

:44:36.:44:40.

effort is taking to ensure that motorcyclists are not disadvantaged?

:44:41.:44:45.

I will look into it and I will respond to the honourable gentleman.

:44:46.:44:52.

What assessment has the minister made of cancellations? I have been

:44:53.:44:56.

made aware of a number of cases where people have received them just

:44:57.:45:00.

minutes before a test has been due. I would be interested to know what

:45:01.:45:04.

assessment he has made of that and the impact it is having on waiting

:45:05.:45:08.

times? I will not enter the points my honourable friend is making. The

:45:09.:45:13.

challenge faced by the devious a is really one of increasing demand. --

:45:14.:45:29.

by the DVSA. The DVSA is responding with more people, but they also need

:45:30.:45:33.

to respond in a customer friendly way. It is an important point and I

:45:34.:45:40.

will look into it. Mr Speaker, we have continued to make progress on

:45:41.:45:44.

transport infrastructure schemes across the country. In the north,

:45:45.:45:48.

the northern transport strategy Spring report has set out more

:45:49.:45:51.

details on how we are building the northern powerhouse. In the east, we

:45:52.:45:56.

are evaluating bids for the East Anglia franchise, which will start

:45:57.:45:59.

in October this year. In the south-west, highways England has

:46:00.:46:06.

started community engagement on the work for the A303 and the A358

:46:07.:46:10.

improvement plans. The select committee has published its final

:46:11.:46:15.

report after 17 months of hard work. I would like to thank all members

:46:16.:46:19.

who were involved in that work for their significant time and effort

:46:20.:46:24.

over the course of those hearings. The businesses and residents in my

:46:25.:46:30.

area have longed for a new road linking the town to the A30. A new

:46:31.:46:37.

road would provide relief for the villages on that route. Can I ask

:46:38.:46:45.

the Secretary of State if he would confirm the governments continued

:46:46.:46:49.

support for this new road and if his department will continue to work

:46:50.:46:52.

with me to make sure it is delivered as soon as possible averaged my

:46:53.:46:56.

honourable friend has made the case for this road to me on many

:46:57.:47:00.

occasions, not least when I was in Cornwall, when he took me around the

:47:01.:47:04.

area that we are talking about. The government is making funds available

:47:05.:47:07.

through the local growth fund for such schemes. It will be up to

:47:08.:47:12.

Cornwall council to prepare and submit the bid for funding in the

:47:13.:47:17.

normal way. But Cornwall has had a very successful history of obtaining

:47:18.:47:20.

funds through this grant and I wish you well on this scheme. Mr Speaker,

:47:21.:47:32.

the board investigated 23 near misses between aircraft and drones

:47:33.:47:37.

in six months last year. Of those, 12 were deemed to involve a serious

:47:38.:47:45.

risk of collision. BALPA wants the government to run tests on what

:47:46.:47:48.

would happen if there was a collision. The government has had a

:47:49.:47:53.

working grip on this since 2013. So why is it only this summer that

:47:54.:47:57.

ministers will say anything? Should we note know already what tests have

:47:58.:48:02.

been done, what options are being considered, regulatory and

:48:03.:48:04.

otherwise, and when would any agreed option we put into practice? We take

:48:05.:48:11.

this matter very seriously indeed, the risk of a collision with a drone

:48:12.:48:15.

is one which we are aware of you. Yesterday I met with representatives

:48:16.:48:19.

of the British airline pilots Association and this was one topic

:48:20.:48:26.

which came up. There are very severe penalties in place for people who do

:48:27.:48:30.

get involved with this. And there are technologies such as geo-

:48:31.:48:32.

fencing which would prevent these aircraft entering sensitive

:48:33.:48:36.

airspace. We are considering what action to take. On a different but

:48:37.:48:43.

also topical subject, I was in Kent yesterday speaking to businesses who

:48:44.:48:49.

had felt first-hand the traffic chaos surrounding 33 days of

:48:50.:48:59.

operation started last year. -- Operation Stag. What is the

:49:00.:49:04.

government going to do to prevent a repeat of last year's seems?

:49:05.:49:14.

Operation Stack is a critical part of controlling access to the ports,

:49:15.:49:18.

and trying to make the ports flowed more smoothly. We had exceptional

:49:19.:49:22.

circumstances last summer, with strikes and challenges with migrants

:49:23.:49:30.

closing the tunnel. The proposal, which is effectively to create an of

:49:31.:49:38.

the highway holding area, is a significant investment, it is a ?250

:49:39.:49:43.

million project. The closure of the consultation is only a few days away

:49:44.:49:47.

I think. I have met with highways England and with local providers of

:49:48.:49:52.

highways, doing all we can do in the short-term. I will keep local

:49:53.:50:02.

members informed of progress. On the 4th of February this year, hundreds

:50:03.:50:06.

of my constituents were gridlocked on the M6 and M42 for an entire day

:50:07.:50:12.

following and accident. Will he examine proposals to open the M6

:50:13.:50:20.

toll road when such circumstances occur? Certainly there is an

:50:21.:50:25.

agreement in place where M6 tolls can be lifted in such an

:50:26.:50:29.

extraordinary circumstance. The government is looking at options

:50:30.:50:33.

over this agreement but there are substantial cost, policy and value

:50:34.:50:37.

for money indications involved with removing the tolls. As part of the

:50:38.:50:41.

process I am more than happy to meet with my honourable friend to discuss

:50:42.:50:49.

it. With an estimated skills gap of some 50,000 HGV drivers predicted by

:50:50.:50:51.

the end of this Parliament, would the minister agree that it makes

:50:52.:50:54.

sense for the government to contribute towards the ?3500

:50:55.:50:59.

training fee required for licences? It would mean more people working,

:51:00.:51:07.

and reducing welfare? Mr Speaker, I am looking at various options to

:51:08.:51:11.

help as far as this issue is concerned, along with other

:51:12.:51:15.

departments. But it is also for the industry to step up to the mark in

:51:16.:51:20.

its training programme. Will the minister join me in welcoming the

:51:21.:51:23.

report published earlier in the week by the independent transport

:51:24.:51:28.

commission, which set up way the mental impact of expansion at

:51:29.:51:31.

Heathrow can be mitigated? Given the weight of opinion included in the

:51:32.:51:35.

Davies report, when can we look forward to a statement of progress

:51:36.:51:39.

on this issue? I have noted the publication of the report by the

:51:40.:51:43.

independent transport commission. That obviously feed into the

:51:44.:51:49.

considerations we are making. As far as the wider issue of airport

:51:50.:51:53.

capacity and making a decision on the location, as I have said before,

:51:54.:51:57.

I hope to be able to do that later this year. I have been contacted by

:51:58.:52:03.

one of my constituents, who has described the impact of late running

:52:04.:52:07.

trains on her job and her income. She says, please understand that I

:52:08.:52:11.

am so employed and I cannot call in sick if I am late for work. This

:52:12.:52:17.

means that the job worth ?5,000 to me personally would be affected.

:52:18.:52:22.

Turning up 30 minutes late would cost me my work. Does the rail

:52:23.:52:26.

minister accept that late running trains and lamentable performance of

:52:27.:52:30.

southern rail, is having an impact on the productivity of the South of

:52:31.:52:33.

England? The gentleman knows I absolutely accept that. Over the

:52:34.:52:39.

country, rail passenger satisfaction is actually up three percentage

:52:40.:52:43.

points. But I think the challenge we have got is that there are some

:52:44.:52:46.

lines, like the one he mentions, where customers are not getting the

:52:47.:52:51.

punctuality and the service they deserve. That's why we are so

:52:52.:52:53.

committed to getting Network Rail and the franchise holder working

:52:54.:52:57.

together. There is no blame but we want them to work together. Does the

:52:58.:53:03.

rail Minister agree that improvements to the north junction

:53:04.:53:10.

are crucial to securing improved services on the King's Cross-

:53:11.:53:12.

Kingsley line and thus unlocking more economic growth? Will she and

:53:13.:53:16.

her colleagues work with me to help secure this crucial investment? The

:53:17.:53:22.

honourable gentleman and others have left me in no doubt as to the value

:53:23.:53:27.

of this Ely north junction work and I am disappointed that this work

:53:28.:53:31.

will not be completed until after 2019. But as a result of the

:53:32.:53:34.

discussions which he and others have organised, I am now confident that

:53:35.:53:39.

the preparatory work can go ahead sooner, with funding coming from a

:53:40.:53:46.

variety of sources. Can I ask what progress there has been with the top

:53:47.:53:53.

three projects recommended by the northern electrification task force,

:53:54.:53:56.

which was chaired by the honourable member for Harrogate and Nesbitt? Mr

:53:57.:54:03.

Speaker that was a cross-party report, chaired by my honourable

:54:04.:54:08.

friend. A lot has been learned about since then. That report will form

:54:09.:54:13.

part of the foundation for how we move forward with further

:54:14.:54:16.

electrification and how we prioritise those schemes. I know the

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government keeps under review the status of trust ports. Poole has

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that status. It has the support of the local community. I hope the

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shipping minister understands that. Can I first of all put on record our

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gratitude for the very hard work that my honourable friend has

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carried out as part of the HS2 committee. We do ask trust ports

:54:42.:54:48.

occasionally to review their status. But certainly all the feedback I

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have had is that the trust board model is working well in his case

:54:53.:54:57.

and we would not wish to interfere. Whilst it is clearly in the public

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interest that a person reporting somebody as being unfit to drive has

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anonymity, does the minister agree that where it appears that the

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abrogation is malicious, anonymity should be rescinded, and the

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reporting form should clearly state that if false Accies Asians are made

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about an individual, the accuser would be liable to prosecution? --

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false accusations. I think that is a matter for the Secretary of State

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for Justice but I will reflect on the question. Could my right

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honourable friend update the House on the reinstatement of the Holton

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Curve, which is so important for my part of the country. That's right.

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It is a vital link. I understand that the business case will be

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considered by the combined authorities in April. If approved,

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and I hope it is, it should be completed by 2018. It would be a

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pleasure to meet with the honourable gentleman. I would be very grateful

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to feed him some buns to keep up his weight during his marathon training!

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It is always useful to have some additional information! May I thank

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the minister of State for transport for his visit to Northern Ireland.

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He visited Belfast international airport as well as the air sea

:56:31.:56:34.

rescue. But will he help influence various projects which we saw at the

:56:35.:56:39.

time of road, rail, air passenger duty, enterprise zone, and of

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course, one day, a new runway here to help the links to Northern

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Ireland? It was certainly great to visit Ulster and to see some of the

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good news in terms of the 300 new jobs at Belfast international

:56:55.:56:57.

airport. And indeed the fact that Ryanair are now based at that

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airport, with flights to Gatwick and new routes including Milan and

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Berlin in the pipeline. I will look forward to coming to Northern

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Ireland again. In my constituency we have a link

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road going to he should import that is going to be open in the next six

:57:17.:57:23.

months. This is a strategic route. Is there any plan to open a trunk

:57:24.:57:30.

road? I visited the site with my honourable friend not long ago and

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it is a major piece of new infrastructure that will serve his

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area well. It has not been raised before but I will consider it. I'm

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very pleased that my honourable friend and his constituents will see

:57:47.:57:50.

the benefit of our massive road investment scheme in the near

:57:51.:57:58.

future. When I raised some time ago the need for a road tunnel between

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Sheffield and Manchester, many thought I was kite flying. Some

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thought this was going to be a desk top study. Will the Secretary of

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State confirm that this proposed tunnel might become a reality. I'm

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not sure whether the honourable member is asking me to comment on

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his demise at this particular stage but I will resist from doing so. He

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may be right that, past governments have raised this issue and been a

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desktop job, this is a proper serious of work that is going on.

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This infrastructure isn't just for 30 years, it is the kind of

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infrastructure that will be around for 100 years and very important to

:58:55.:58:59.

the area and therefore will certainly see the demise of both

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others. The government is making welcome investment in rail in the

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North with electrification bringing huge benefits to constituencies like

:59:12.:59:17.

mine. What is the government doing to improve disabled access at

:59:18.:59:21.

stations like Morley and Will the Secretary of State meet with me to

:59:22.:59:27.

discuss improvements at Morley station? It is right to raise this

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but there are many other stations ahead of it in the queue in terms of

:59:33.:59:37.

passenger fought for. We are catching up after decades of

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neglect. It would be a pleasure to meet with her and discuss disabled

:59:41.:59:52.

access in particular. The re-routing of services that is necessary in

:59:53.:59:58.

Piccadilly and Oxford Road which will utilise the line in my

:59:59.:00:02.

constituency so can I have a meeting with them so I can explain to him

:00:03.:00:05.

the importance of being able to assess whether Denton and Reddish

:00:06.:00:11.

South stations can make a business case for future investment? Topical

:00:12.:00:19.

questions seem to have given him the chance to raise a question again for

:00:20.:00:23.

which he wasn't happy with the first answer. I understand that he is

:00:24.:00:31.

meeting my honourable friend the Parliamentary under Secretary of

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State in 30 minutes and no doubt he might want to add this to the

:00:37.:00:45.

discussing. I recently visited a company that are refurbishing trains

:00:46.:00:50.

for mainline use. These would make an excellent replacement for the

:00:51.:00:56.

decrypted rolling stock on the line to Boston. There are fantastic

:00:57.:01:05.

innovations with rolling stock made from aluminium. In future successful

:01:06.:01:15.

bidders will be required to be innovative regarding rolling stock.

:01:16.:01:18.

We want to improve the rolling stock in his region. The proposed

:01:19.:01:25.

trans-Pennine tunnel that has just been mentioned would be

:01:26.:01:29.

transformative, not just for congestion in my constituency but

:01:30.:01:34.

for the local economy. It is an ambitious project but the North is

:01:35.:01:40.

worthy of that level of ambition. Will the Secretary of State urge the

:01:41.:01:46.

Chancellor to support it as well. I don't need to encourage the

:01:47.:01:50.

Chancellor at all in infrastructure spending. I have been incredibly

:01:51.:01:55.

successful in securing funding for infrastructure from the Chancellor

:01:56.:01:59.

who gets the importance of investment, not least in the north.

:02:00.:02:04.

His policy has been pursuing the whole question of the Northern

:02:05.:02:07.

powerhouse and taking forward transferred for the North which will

:02:08.:02:12.

have a transformative effect on transport between northern cities

:02:13.:02:15.

and it is something that other parts of the country are looking to

:02:16.:02:21.

follow. The minister will recall the Shaw show crash which tragically

:02:22.:02:26.

claimed the lives of 11 men in my constituency last August. I have

:02:27.:02:30.

been asked by the media for my comments on the report on the air

:02:31.:02:35.

crash which apparently is being published today. Why was I not aware

:02:36.:02:40.

of that and what plans do the governments have two respond to it?

:02:41.:02:48.

I am not sure that we do preview notification of the Branch report

:02:49.:02:51.

before they are published. It is part of the reported that is being

:02:52.:02:58.

published today but by no means is it the full report, a parliament

:02:59.:03:08.

investigation will be updated and they are notifying people where they

:03:09.:03:15.

have got to so far. Demand today has heavily outstripped supply and we

:03:16.:03:20.

must now move on. Urgent question. Mr Greg Mulholland. Will the

:03:21.:03:33.

Minister of State make a comment on the appointment of the pub code

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adjudicator? Mr Paul Newby has been appointed. I hope you will be

:03:45.:03:50.

congratulated on the role and thanks to all those who applied for this

:03:51.:03:55.

important position. An excellent and very strong field. Mr Newby will

:03:56.:04:01.

start full-time on May two and has already started work and has been

:04:02.:04:08.

very helpful with my officials. In making sure we have the pub code up

:04:09.:04:13.

and running and ready for the house. Paul Newby is a chartered surveyor

:04:14.:04:19.

with particular expertise in valuation and arbitration. Key

:04:20.:04:24.

skills of the pub code adjudicator. He has 30 years experience of the

:04:25.:04:28.

pub trade working with pub company landlords and pub tenants and I

:04:29.:04:34.

think going to be an excellent adjudicator. That is not a view

:04:35.:04:41.

shared by tenants groups who have been astonished by this appointment.

:04:42.:04:46.

Let's be clear, this appointment is of someone who is of our director --

:04:47.:04:54.

who is a director of a company who derives the vast majority of its

:04:55.:04:59.

income from the sources it is being required to regulate. In particular

:05:00.:05:11.

he has acted for Enterprise Inns, Marstons and punch. These companies

:05:12.:05:16.

are bullying and coercing tenants into signing away their rights to

:05:17.:05:21.

their pubs and the company is actively involved in selling of

:05:22.:05:25.

pubs. How can he be trusted to be impartial given that his Surrey for

:05:26.:05:34.

20 years has been dependent on those he is expected now to a --

:05:35.:05:42.

adjudicator pun. -- his salary for 20 years. Did he as a director

:05:43.:05:51.

declare how much of the income of the company he works for has been

:05:52.:05:56.

derived from the companies he will be adjudicated upon. How can tenants

:05:57.:06:04.

have any confidence in this appointment? Why has a chartered

:06:05.:06:08.

surveyor been appointed rather than someone from a legal background or

:06:09.:06:17.

an independent adjudicator will stop we don't know how great candidates

:06:18.:06:20.

there were and who made the final decision. This is a very worrying

:06:21.:06:26.

appointment, once again demonstrates either composite seat with pub:

:06:27.:06:38.

interest or a lack of understanding of the role. If this appointment is

:06:39.:06:48.

allowed to stand, this statutory reform will go the same way as the

:06:49.:06:53.

failed self-regulatory. It is a clueless appointment and it needs to

:06:54.:06:56.

be properly scrutinised by this house. I have to say, that was a

:06:57.:07:06.

disgraceful set of slurs and I would appreciate it if the honourable

:07:07.:07:09.

gentleman would be good enough to listen. Paul Newby was appointed

:07:10.:07:15.

absolutely in accordance with the usual ways of public appointments

:07:16.:07:20.

and I take very grave exception to any allegation that either me or

:07:21.:07:27.

anybody else has acted in anyway in properly or competently. Mr Newby

:07:28.:07:37.

hasn't just represented pub trade companies but also tenants. He has

:07:38.:07:46.

30 years of experience, effectively representing both sides. He is an

:07:47.:07:54.

experienced arbitrator and the great skills he brings to the position are

:07:55.:08:00.

not only his extensive experience of the pub trade industry but like many

:08:01.:08:09.

professionals he has the absolute ability to be fair and arbitrate

:08:10.:08:15.

fairly and the fact that he might be representing somebody does not mean

:08:16.:08:21.

to say that he is in their pay. He can act independently. Oh no. The

:08:22.:08:27.

honourable gentleman absolutely doesn't understand how professionals

:08:28.:08:33.

work and many of ours would take great exception in any event. This

:08:34.:08:43.

man, honourable members opposite would do better rather than to

:08:44.:08:47.

hackle about somebody they don't even know. They haven't looked at

:08:48.:08:53.

his anti-seed and is and I made the announcement only yesterday in this

:08:54.:08:57.

place at about seven o'clock. I have no doubt that Mr Newby's

:08:58.:09:01.

considerable experience and abilities to be able to do this job

:09:02.:09:07.

are first rate and I take great exception at the idea there has been

:09:08.:09:12.

any impropriety at all. Somebody from a sedentary position said, do

:09:13.:09:19.

you know him? No, I don't know him. I didn't meet him until... I met him

:09:20.:09:27.

at the end of the procedure, as this house would expect after he was one

:09:28.:09:33.

of three names put forward quite properly by a full process which has

:09:34.:09:39.

been open and fair and I object very strongly on behalf of Mr Newby who

:09:40.:09:43.

will do this job with propriety and all things will be done properly.

:09:44.:09:54.

The Minister has behaved absolutely correctly and properly and what

:09:55.:09:59.

matters is Paul Newby's ability rather than anything else. Would she

:10:00.:10:04.

agree that he should look at the loophole that allows retailers and

:10:05.:10:08.

shop owners to buy a pub that requires planning permission but on

:10:09.:10:12.

the other hand if it reverts back to being a pub in those actually

:10:13.:10:17.

require planning position. His primary job is to implement and make

:10:18.:10:21.

sure the pub code is being complied with. When people invoke the pub

:10:22.:10:28.

code, his job will to be acting as a fey arbitrator. I have no doubt that

:10:29.:10:35.

he has those skills and experience. -- fair arbitrator. He has had

:10:36.:10:43.

experience of the pub companies but also tenants so he sees things from

:10:44.:10:47.

both sides and has all the skills and his appointment was made with

:10:48.:10:54.

great care and total propriety. The way the Minister announced the

:10:55.:10:58.

appointment yesterday didn't exactly inspire confidence as part of the

:10:59.:11:03.

shambolic proceedings that we experienced on the enterprise Bill

:11:04.:11:07.

on Sunday trading. She announced it in an intervention in the third

:11:08.:11:13.

reading after the Secretary of State could have mentioned it in his third

:11:14.:11:18.

reading speech. If nobody had mentioned the pub 's code at third

:11:19.:11:21.

reading, the announcement wouldn't even have been made then. Turning to

:11:22.:11:27.

the appointment of Paul Newby, I look forward to meeting him to look

:11:28.:11:31.

at the concerns raised by the honourable member for Leeds North

:11:32.:11:37.

West and by the pub 's tenants about the relationship between his current

:11:38.:11:41.

employers and large pub owning businesses. I don't think tenants

:11:42.:11:45.

will be at all reassured by what she said and I think the challenge for

:11:46.:11:53.

Mr Newby will be maintaining a level playing field between tenants and

:11:54.:11:58.

pub companies. How does she feel he can do this given the concerns

:11:59.:12:07.

raised by tenants? Somebody who has acted for companies such as Punch

:12:08.:12:10.

Taverns, Enterprise Inns and Marstons will act on their behalf in

:12:11.:12:18.

the future. She will be aware of concerns that the adjudicator should

:12:19.:12:21.

not be a chartered surveyor. Could she tell a house that she will be

:12:22.:12:26.

pursuing concerns about the attitude of the Royal Institute of chartered

:12:27.:12:30.

surveyors about Parolo rent assessment? -- parallel rent

:12:31.:12:39.

assessments. Concerns have been raised in the Lords and here and

:12:40.:12:44.

will she really raise those concerns with the adjudicator about pub

:12:45.:12:48.

companies offering shorter leases to make it impractical for the tenants

:12:49.:12:52.

to take up the market went only option. Will she raise the date for

:12:53.:13:03.

taking that opportunity up? We saw a shambolic approach to the initial

:13:04.:13:07.

consultation on the pub 's code which undermined trust from pub

:13:08.:13:11.

tenants. Back on track, concerns were raised by tenants associations.

:13:12.:13:20.

I should say to the House that I did advise the principal actors on this

:13:21.:13:27.

stage that on this occasion, I was really quite insistent that the time

:13:28.:13:33.

limits be kept. To be fair, the minister was well within her time.

:13:34.:13:38.

The honourable gentleman exceeded it by a small number of seconds. But he

:13:39.:13:44.

was closer than he has been in the past! No discourtesy is intended to

:13:45.:13:48.

the honourable gentleman. I think he has got the thrust of it across. But

:13:49.:13:52.

we really must from now on stick to the limits because otherwise it is

:13:53.:13:59.

not fair on backbench members. I think we are very clear what the

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honourable gentleman has got to say. Minister. Mr Speaker, we are

:14:02.:14:07.

confident that the pub code will be in its proper form and it will be

:14:08.:14:10.

laid at the appropriate time and that it will be up and running by

:14:11.:14:15.

June the 1st. Yesterday a press release had been prepared for

:14:16.:14:18.

publication today. I took the opportunity as you know to tell this

:14:19.:14:21.

House first. I thought that was a courtesy to the House and I thought

:14:22.:14:27.

the honourable gentleman had a proper interest in pubs and I

:14:28.:14:31.

thought he might be in some way grateful. But there you go, you live

:14:32.:14:36.

and learn. I very much welcome the governments action on this issue. As

:14:37.:14:40.

someone who represents a number of pubs which I have dealt with over

:14:41.:14:47.

the years, and having problems with the large pubcos that own them. When

:14:48.:14:52.

appointing the adjudicator, is it not important to have someone who

:14:53.:14:55.

understands both sides of the argument so that they can adjudicate

:14:56.:14:58.

fairly between them? Absolutely I agree. Paul Newby is not only a

:14:59.:15:04.

chartered surveyor locking he has this ability, he is a very

:15:05.:15:07.

experienced arbitrator, but it is his knowledge from both sides, and I

:15:08.:15:11.

know that he will be fair. I have complete confidence in him. He is

:15:12.:15:20.

very good news. We know the pubs adjudicator is effectively classed

:15:21.:15:25.

as England only, but just like Sunday trading, it could have an

:15:26.:15:30.

effect in Scotland, because pub companies made direct investment

:15:31.:15:33.

towards pubs in England and Wales. The Scottish Government... Could the

:15:34.:15:41.

minister make sure going forward but she takes effect of the possible

:15:42.:15:51.

effect of the proposals on Scottish pubs? I don't think there was a

:15:52.:15:54.

question but I am sure we can have a chat about it afterwards and discuss

:15:55.:16:02.

all these things. Can my honourable friend confirm that this appointment

:16:03.:16:06.

has been made absolutely on merit, fairly and without interference from

:16:07.:16:10.

government whatsoever? And the most important thing about this is how

:16:11.:16:13.

the person does the job and implements the pub code? I am

:16:14.:16:20.

grateful for his comments. He is absolutely right. It is an insult to

:16:21.:16:24.

the civil servants and all those who took part in the process, because

:16:25.:16:27.

they exercised the greatest care in making sure that the very best

:16:28.:16:31.

candidates were put forward to the final seven and then the next three

:16:32.:16:35.

before coming to the minister with a recommendation in relation to one. I

:16:36.:16:42.

take this not personally against me but against my civil servants and

:16:43.:16:47.

all that team, because this has been done. And he is very good news. He

:16:48.:16:51.

is fair and he knows what he is talking about. I have a recorded

:16:52.:16:58.

interest in a pub. I Chair a trust which owns the pub which John Clare

:16:59.:17:03.

played and sang in. It is not operating at the moment but it will

:17:04.:17:08.

be. Let's depersonalise this. I work very closely with The Pub Is The

:17:09.:17:14.

Hub. I do not know this man, I hope he does a good job, but unlike the

:17:15.:17:19.

supermarket person, I hope this man has teeth to do something about a

:17:20.:17:23.

vigorous brewing and pub industry in this country. It is all about

:17:24.:17:26.

getting the balance right. I must take exception about Christine, the

:17:27.:17:32.

grocery code June eight, who now has exactly the teeth he would like. She

:17:33.:17:37.

has not held back in her criticism as we saw recently. -- the grocery

:17:38.:17:41.

code adjudicator. She is doing a great job. In any event, the most

:17:42.:17:46.

important thing is that it was actually naming and shaming, as the

:17:47.:17:50.

honourable gentleman will know, that is sometimes the most powerful tool.

:17:51.:17:54.

But the code adjudicator is just that, an adjudicator to ensure

:17:55.:17:58.

fairness, and Paul Newby will do that. What involvement if any has

:17:59.:18:04.

the industry had on both sides in this selection process? I can assure

:18:05.:18:08.

my Noble Friend that no influence at all. We sought to someone with the

:18:09.:18:14.

right skills set, someone with experience as an arbitrator and who

:18:15.:18:19.

understood the trade and had the ability to see things from both

:18:20.:18:22.

sides. Paul Newby has all those skills and more. As a member of the

:18:23.:18:32.

business select committee which initiated one of the earlier

:18:33.:18:39.

inquiries, and Chair of the select committee, the report of which

:18:40.:18:44.

informed this particular piece of legislation, can I say to the

:18:45.:18:48.

minister, and I would not wish to prejudge the performance of Paul

:18:49.:18:53.

Newby, however, I would like to emphasise that there is huge

:18:54.:18:57.

disquiet amongst the tenants that I think the government, and I would

:18:58.:19:02.

ask the minister if she would look at that, would review the

:19:03.:19:05.

performance of the adjudicator after a certain period of time and keep up

:19:06.:19:11.

a dialogue with the tenants to ensure that their concerns are met.

:19:12.:19:14.

Otherwise this issue will not go away. I am grateful and I am pleased

:19:15.:19:23.

he has got an open mind. I think he will be impressed by Paul Newby. He

:19:24.:19:29.

is absolutely right. If anybody is not performing, then obviously that

:19:30.:19:32.

is concerning and measures can be taken. I think we also have to say,

:19:33.:19:37.

there are many tenants throughout England and Wales of pubs and we

:19:38.:19:41.

have got to be careful to make sure that groups genuinely represent the

:19:42.:19:47.

voice of all tenants. We must not let a few dominate the debate. It is

:19:48.:19:51.

important to be fair to both sides and make sure that all those tenant

:19:52.:20:01.

groups... Which is why I am a great fan of Camra, because I think they

:20:02.:20:04.

represent a large proportion of tenants. The pub is at the heart of

:20:05.:20:09.

many communities. I am really hoping that the appointment of Paul Newby

:20:10.:20:14.

will normalise these relationships and that we do not see, especially

:20:15.:20:22.

in the case of a pub near me, which suffered under an overbearing pub

:20:23.:20:25.

company, where you get a new tenants tempted in, running well, but then

:20:26.:20:30.

the prices escalate until they are forced to closure. And then we see a

:20:31.:20:33.

planning application for alternative use. I am really hoping this will

:20:34.:20:38.

normalise those relationships. I could not agree more. It is that

:20:39.:20:42.

change of culture which is so important. I agree with the

:20:43.:20:46.

honourable gentleman. We have all had examples in our own

:20:47.:20:49.

constituency. I have also fought to keep open pubs. I have not been

:20:50.:20:54.

successful in one instance although I was in another. It is about

:20:55.:21:01.

changing the atmosphere and making sure that pubcos act in a

:21:02.:21:04.

responsible manner not just to their tenants but to the broader

:21:05.:21:12.

community. I understand that the chartered surveyors Institute failed

:21:13.:21:16.

to respond on rent assessment guidance. Can the minister confirm

:21:17.:21:29.

how the adjudicator reconciles his position with that of such a

:21:30.:21:33.

professional bodies which I hear what my honourable friend says. But

:21:34.:21:39.

I think Paul Newby is going to be his own man. If I may say, as

:21:40.:21:44.

somebody who was a member of a professional body, the Bar Council

:21:45.:21:48.

often had a point of view which I personally completely disagreed

:21:49.:21:52.

with. He is a good man, he will be his own man, he will be fair, and he

:21:53.:21:56.

comes with a huge skill set. I am rather staggered that the honourable

:21:57.:22:01.

gentleman the member for Kilmarnock seems to have disappeared from the

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Chamber. The question is ongoing! The honourable member is the front

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bench spokesman for his party. He should stay for the exchange, he

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should not be tunnelling out of the Chamber in the middle of the

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exchanges. These courtesies really must be observed. It really want to

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do, obviously. Mr Speaker, the appointment brief for this role,

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which was issued in July last year, stated that...

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CHEERING It is very good that the honourable

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gentleman has been pulled back into the Chamber. I want the honourable

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member to have his question heard without intervention. The

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appointment brief for this role, which was issued in July last year,

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stated the appointment would be announced in January. Can my right

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honourable friend say why the announcement was delayed by two

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months? I think if I am right, and if I am wrong, I will apologise

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profusely, but if my memory is correct, it was because Mr Newby had

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to serve a period of his contract before he could give notice and so

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forth. But actually I believe the decision was made just before

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Christmas, but we could not announce it until now because of his

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relationship with his employer. That is inexplicable to me! Really

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inexplicable. But I am sure that nobody is laughing at the honourable

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lady whom I take extremely seriously and I want to hear what she has got

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to say. In my constituency, one brewery effectively has a monopoly

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with only 30 tied houses. This blocks local producers from selling

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to pubs on their doorsteps, and across Wales, more than 100 small

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breweries are in a similar position. Could the canonic context of Wales

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be considered by the newly -- by the newly appointed pubs adjudicator? I

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don't think that is really in his win it. He is really to ensure that

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anybody who raises a complaint under the pub code is able to be heard

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fairly. But the honourable lady raises an important point. We all

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know the huge importance of our pubs to communities. It is also

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absolutely the case that they should trade fairly. Can the minister tell

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us how many years this initial appointment is for? If it is a short

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period of time, there will be understandable concern that the

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adjudicator will not want to burn bridges with the pubco industry.

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Four years is the answer. Does this appointment by by the principles of

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the Committee on Standards in Public Life? Yes. Thank you. Order,

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business question, Mr Chris Bryant. Will the Leader of the House give us

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the forthcoming business? The Leader of the House. Mr Chris Grayling. Mr

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Speaker, can I start by in forming the House that the State Opening of

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the next session of Parliament will take place on Wednesday the eighth

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info of May. -- the 18th of May. I am also very pleased to announce the

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calendar for this House for the remainder of the year. The House

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will rise for the early May bank holiday on Thursday the 20th of

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April and return on Tuesday the 3rd of May. For the Whitsun recess, the

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House will rise at the conclusion of business on Thursday the 26th of May

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and will return on Monday the 6th of June. Members will wish to know that

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additionally, the House will rise at the conclusion of business on

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Wednesday the 15th of June and return on Monday the 27th of June.

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The House will rise for the summer recess at the conclusion of business

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on the 21st of July and will return on Monday the 5th of December. --

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Monday the 5th of September. The House will then return on Monday the

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10th of October. The House will rise on the 8th of November and return on

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the 14th of November. And finally, for the Christmas recess, the House

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will rise at the conclusion of business on Tuesday the 20th of

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December and return on Monday the 9th of January 20 17. All dates are

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as usual, as they have been in the last few weeks, Mr Speaker, subject

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to the progress of business. On that question, next week, on Monday the

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14th of March, we will have the remaining stages of the energy bill

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in the Lords. On Wednesday 16th of March the

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Chancellor of the Exchequer will deliver his Budget Statement is. On

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Thursday 17th of March, continuation of the budget debate. 18th of March,

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the house will not sit. For the week commencing 21st of March, a

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continuation and conclusion of the budget debate. On Wednesday and

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Thursday, the high-speed rail is built. My thanks on behalf of the

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house to all of those who have been involved in the extended considering

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phase of the committee stage of that bill. On Friday the 25th of March,

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the house will not be sitting. The business in Westminster Hall for the

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17th-21st of March will be a general debate on cabin air safety and aero

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toxic syndrome. A debate on contract did go see Asians with the British

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Medical Association. Mr Speaker, I am delighted that the leader has

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confirmed the recess dates which I announced three weeks ago. I'm glad

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he is catching up. I have to say, the decision to hold the Queen 's

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speech on the 18th of May is a profound mistake. Whatever the

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government's intentions, they will be misconstrued. We have already

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seen that the Brexit campaign are so desperate that they are trying to

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claim members of the Royal family to their cause. Lay off the Queen and

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think again. The delay on the decision on Heathrow is hurting

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business. The longest delayed child obesity campaign is hurting

:29:23.:29:29.

children. The Prime Minister even mentioned the bill on phone masts

:29:30.:29:33.

yesterday but we have been calling it for years. Why don't they publish

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the electronic Communications code tomorrow? Has the government learned

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anything from yesterday? How to count, perhaps? The way ministers

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handle the enterprise Bill was a classic case of how not to do it.

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They let it go through the Lords without mentioning Sunday trading

:29:58.:30:02.

which they inserting upstairs in committee and at one point ministers

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forgot to vote. They were generously allowed a second chance. They tabled

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a manuscript amendment to their own amendment. Some people have said

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they are being too clever by half. To be honest, I think they are just

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a little dim. There were many managements to rebels yesterday,

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arms were twisted, the Chief Whip explained the facts of life to

:30:32.:30:35.

recover to members. The Cabinet secretary tried to be charming. That

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was so terrifying that one rebel turned company a grey and may never

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gain the power of speech again and after all that they lost. Can you

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hear that sound? It is the sound of the slow ebbing out down the beach

:30:53.:30:58.

of the authority of the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the

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X. I offered this advice for free, this house doesn't like sharp

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practice. Stop trying to pull a fast one and do things the proper way.

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Isn't it time we abandoned evil. Last night we had the hilarious

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sight of government ministers staring at you in blank amazement

:31:22.:31:27.

when you suspended the house. When the member for North Perthshire

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asked the chairman 's former ways and means who should know the answer

:31:32.:31:35.

if he could explain, he made it clear he didn't have the foggiest

:31:36.:31:40.

idea. Looking at the Minister for small business, there was a desert

:31:41.:31:46.

of vast eternity between their ears. Nobody understands it. It wastes

:31:47.:31:52.

time and hasn't made a difference to a single decision. It is time to

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abandon it. I note that the leader is giving a Brexit speech today. We

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are agog. Did he get approval from the Prime Minister or from the

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actual leader of the out campaign, the Justice Secretary? Can he

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guarantee that his special advisers were not involved in briefing papers

:32:18.:32:21.

on his speech and won't be attending the speech because the cabinet

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secretary has explicitly instructed that specialist advisers may not do

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so during office hours. He and I have one thing in common, the Labour

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Party auctioned the opportunity to swim with sharks with me on Tuesday

:32:38.:32:45.

night instead of attending a meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party, I

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fear he may be swimming with the fishes after the 23rd of June. The

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Business Select Committee has two Mike Ashley demanding that he gave

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evidence on his company's decidedly shady practices which he has refused

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to do. This is a hideous company. 80% of staff in one warehouse is an

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zero hours contract. Staff are subjected to a 50 minute search on

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paid -- 15 minute search on paid at the end of every day. Can the

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committee ordered Mr Ashley to appear and they can force him if

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necessary to be arraigned before the bar of the house. He might be the

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22nd richest man in Britain but he is running a modern day sweatshop

:33:52.:33:55.

and this house will get to the truth. Surely, if we are to

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criticise the working practices of sports direct, we should put our own

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house in order. The cost of agency staff in this house has quadrupled.

:34:12.:34:17.

They represent one in 12 members of staff. That means that the house is

:34:18.:34:23.

paying substantially more than the employee gets and the employee will

:34:24.:34:28.

get no share in the tips. Should we not bring the staff in-house and

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make sure that everyone gets a fair share of the tips when we give them.

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Finally, happy birthday to my father for tomorrow. Delighted to send many

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happy returns to the honourable gentleman's father and also to

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celebrate another important occasion. Tomorrow is the centenary

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of the birth of Harold Wilson. I think it is worth marking that. I

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think a lot of people made the case for having a statue of him in this

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place and there is a lot to be said for this. I hope they work about

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committee will give consideration to it. At the moment we celebrate his

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life because 41 years ago he was the first person to give others a

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referendum on the membership of the European Union. I hope to be part of

:35:22.:35:30.

a winning side as well. Mr Speaker, the other thing about Harold Wilson

:35:31.:35:36.

is that he is a former Labour Prime Minister that they are still happy

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to talk about. In today's world, that is a rarity. The shadow leader

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went on about the Queens speech. I don't understand what he is talking

:35:49.:35:54.

about. He is talking on one hand about a zombie parliament with

:35:55.:35:59.

nothing to do but now he is complaining about important measures

:36:00.:36:02.

that will help reform the country. When they talk about a zombie

:36:03.:36:07.

parliament, last Monday, we brought forward the policing and crime Bill,

:36:08.:36:11.

an important set of measures that will make a difference to policing

:36:12.:36:15.

in this country. We were here debating it. Where were the Labour

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Party? They Bailey turned up and business finished early. We do not

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have a zombie parliament but a zombie opposition. -- they barely

:36:27.:36:33.

turned up. He spoke about the authority of the prime ministers

:36:34.:36:38.

seeping away. Coming from the Labour Party today with the authority of

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their leader seeping away, it is frankly unbelievable. We sit here in

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prime ministers questions each week and look at the faces of the party

:36:49.:36:52.

opposite as their leader asks questions. The shadow leader's base

:36:53.:37:00.

is a picture because we know what he thinks about is leader. They are

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profoundly depressed, miserable. To the extant that the day we have the

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first speech in the next Labour ship leader contest. The shadow leader

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axed about the speech I am going to be given today. I have already given

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it. He clearly wasn't paying attention. Surprisingly enough, I'm

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not after his support. LAUGHTER The evil procedure he talked about,

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we stood on a manifesto of giving the British a share in the

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devolution settlement. If it is now the Labour Party's policy to say to

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English voters, we will take a way you're part of the devolution

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settlement, I look forward to having that debate on the doorsteps and at

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the ballot box. On the question of Mike Ashley and the Business Select

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Committee, it should always be the case that this house seeks to bring

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somebody before it, and they should be free to do so and it should

:38:15.:38:19.

happen unequivocally. On the subject of employees in this house, I

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remember that the honourable gentleman is a member of the

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committee that discusses how we spend money in the house. I'm sure

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he will bring the matter to the commission and we will discuss it.

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This weekend is the denoument of the Rugby six Nations between England

:38:41.:38:48.

and Wales at Twickenham. I say, may the best team win. The one thing we

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can be sure about is that although he will not be singing Delilah this

:38:54.:38:59.

weekend, as a Republican, I look forward to a good old blast of God

:39:00.:39:03.

Save The Queen and I am sure you will be joining the amp on Saturday.

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Next week I will be going to read Brock Hayes community primary School

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in Brereton which has been rated good following a couple of years of

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hard work and commitment from the headteacher Chris Gaffney and his

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team. Can we have a debate in government time about the progress

:39:27.:39:29.

being made in terms of improving school standards? My honourable

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friend makes an important point. And happy birthday for Saturday, as

:39:37.:39:45.

well. We have made enormous progress on improving educational standards.

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I pay tribute to the headteacher she makes reference to an all of those

:39:51.:39:54.

in her constituency who are making a difference for the young people of

:39:55.:40:04.

Cannock Chase. Let's see if we can get through this business quite

:40:05.:40:07.

quickly so the house can resume its core business of slapping off the

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Right honourable friend the Prime Minister. I have an elegant solution

:40:13.:40:21.

how we discover whether the Queen is for Brexit or not? Yesterday the

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government were defeated... He said what he said but for the benefit of

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the house and new members, we don't discuss the views of the monarch in

:40:44.:40:51.

this chamber. There have been debates occasionally on matters are

:40:52.:40:55.

pertaining to the Royal family but we don't discuss that matter and

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it's better that we leave it there. Please continue. Absolutely right.

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We will leave it to government figures to do that. Yesterday, the

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government were defeated and it was the SNP what won it. We can't take

:41:12.:41:17.

exclusive credit for that incredible victory. We did have some friends

:41:18.:41:22.

who also helped. THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

:41:23.:41:30.

We really enjoyed the wailing and gnashing of conservative teeth.

:41:31.:41:35.

There was something almost delicious about the ways the Tories lashed out

:41:36.:41:40.

at the SNP after this government having imposed English votes for

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English laws criticised our temerity for getting up and supporting

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Scottish workers. Does the government believe for a minute that

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normal rules stand when it comes to issues like that? What about this

:41:54.:42:04.

rule? Nobody had a clue what was going on yesterday. I asked the

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Deputy Speaker what was going on and he didn't have a clue. You would

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need an advanced degree in madness to understand what is going on with

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the dog 's breakfast that is English votes for English laws. The time has

:42:23.:42:27.

come to abandon the plan that doesn't work. If there was some

:42:28.:42:31.

accidental consequence for the support of the European leave

:42:32.:42:35.

campaign it will be his legacy. What a legacy to leave this house?

:42:36.:42:43.

I want to support the calls yesterday for my right honourable

:42:44.:42:51.

friend the member for Moray on the treatment of asylum seekers in this

:42:52.:42:53.

country. Perhaps we could have a proper look at the use of private

:42:54.:43:00.

services when it comes to the treatment of asylum seekers in this

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country. Lastly, we are also grateful to the Leader of the House

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for announcing the recess dates and the announcement that there will be

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after all a Queen's Speech in advance of the referendum. But once

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again what we find with the recess dates, they do not cover the

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Scottish National Party conference. We are the third largest party. It

:43:21.:43:25.

covers the Liberal conference, Mr Speaker. So can I get a guarantee

:43:26.:43:29.

from the Leader of the House that the 14th of October will be a norm

:43:30.:43:33.

sitting day so that the second party of this House can also get to its

:43:34.:43:38.

conference. Once again, what we find with all this time off that we have

:43:39.:43:42.

in the summer, we find that it does not include the Scottish school

:43:43.:43:47.

holidays once again. My honourable friends, they want to spend time

:43:48.:43:51.

with their families, as honourable members across there will be able to

:43:52.:43:55.

do from other parts of the United Kingdom. We need to get this sorted

:43:56.:44:05.

for next year, Mr Speaker. First of all, can I thank you for what you

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have just said about the Queen and the Royal Family, Mr Speaker. The

:44:10.:44:13.

one thing which it is always appropriate to say in this House is

:44:14.:44:17.

how much we value our monarchy and we appreciate the magnificent job

:44:18.:44:21.

she does for our nation. With regard to the events yesterday, phrase, it

:44:22.:44:26.

was the SNP what one it. I have a high regard for my honourable

:44:27.:44:30.

friend, but yesterday was one of those occasions where it is very

:44:31.:44:33.

clear how far away from political principle the SNP can find itself.

:44:34.:44:38.

You cannot on the one hand talk about the importance, as they have

:44:39.:44:44.

always done, of standing aside from matters which are England only, and

:44:45.:44:47.

then diving in when it is opportunistic for them to do so.

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That is a party of opportunism, I'm a friend, not a party of principle.

:44:53.:44:57.

And I listen and again to the honourable gentleman's words about

:44:58.:45:01.

English votes for English laws. As he knows, I was in Scotland last

:45:02.:45:05.

week supporting our fine team campaigning in the Scottish

:45:06.:45:09.

elections there. One of the Scottish members said to me, that Mr Wishart,

:45:10.:45:14.

he is very hysterical, isn't he? I had to reassure him and say, he is

:45:15.:45:18.

actually a nice guy behind the scenes. But when I hear comments

:45:19.:45:22.

like his ones this morning, I can understand why some of the people in

:45:23.:45:25.

Scotland get the wrong idea about him. On the asylum seekers, it is a

:45:26.:45:30.

matter the Home Secretary takes seriously. We will always do our

:45:31.:45:34.

best to make sure that people in this country are treated humanely.

:45:35.:45:41.

Clearly I owe him an apology regarding the SNP conference. I had

:45:42.:45:45.

thought that making sure he had the opportunity to be here on the first

:45:46.:45:49.

day of the SNP conference was a help to him rather than a hindrance,

:45:50.:45:53.

because I never had the sense that he was desperate to get there. I

:45:54.:45:56.

thought that as this year, we would enjoy being here on the first day of

:45:57.:45:59.

conference. Clearly we will have to look at whether we do the same thing

:46:00.:46:05.

next year. And finally, I have some bad news for him. He has

:46:06.:46:13.

competition. As he may know, there are people on this side of the House

:46:14.:46:17.

who are also now making some fine music and I have to say, I think the

:46:18.:46:23.

honourable member looks like being tough competition for him when it

:46:24.:46:26.

comes to Eurovision next year. May the best man or woman win. Mr

:46:27.:46:34.

Speaker, it will not have escaped the Leader of the House that

:46:35.:46:37.

depending on how the business pans out today, in particular the

:46:38.:46:41.

Northern Ireland business, there is a likelihood that the very important

:46:42.:46:44.

debate at the end of the day on the way in which our acts of Parliament

:46:45.:46:48.

are recorded may be squeezed out, possibly completely. Will the Leader

:46:49.:47:02.

of the House now find government time for substantive debate on the

:47:03.:47:05.

matter so that we can let the House of Lords know what we think about

:47:06.:47:09.

it? This is of course a subject which has been brought forward on a

:47:10.:47:13.

backbench day. I think it is appropriate to be a matter for the

:47:14.:47:18.

House and not something which government time is made available

:47:19.:47:22.

for. And so as the Chair of the backbench committee is here today,

:47:23.:47:27.

if he is not able to move his debate today, then the opportunity will be

:47:28.:47:30.

found to bring that matter to the House. I am sure that that will be

:47:31.:47:37.

the case. I am grateful also to the Leader of the House for the

:47:38.:47:41.

announcement of the future business. And with the date of the State

:47:42.:47:45.

Opening be announced for the 18th of May, can I remind the Leader of the

:47:46.:47:50.

House that it is a standing order the House that the backbench

:47:51.:47:53.

business committee be awarded 27 days of business time within a

:47:54.:47:57.

session. We are still some way short of that. And we are expecting a glut

:47:58.:48:00.

of backbench business in the five weeks which remain after Easter and

:48:01.:48:06.

the State Opening. I would add one personal thing - if we do get this

:48:07.:48:11.

to Mike Ashley into This Place, can we also question him about the

:48:12.:48:14.

terrible running of Newcastle United Football Club at the same time? I do

:48:15.:48:19.

not want to diminish the importance of the employment practices of

:48:20.:48:24.

Sports Direct, but I'm afraid to say that based on the management of

:48:25.:48:28.

Newcastle United, I do not expect a very big party at a brewery any time

:48:29.:48:33.

soon. It is tough being a Newcastle supporter at the moment. I wish him

:48:34.:48:38.

and his team well for the rest of the season. There is time to escape

:48:39.:48:42.

the relegation zone and I have no doubt he will be cheering from the

:48:43.:48:54.

stands. I have no doubt that he is going to be seeking more time over

:48:55.:48:57.

the next few weeks. I am not sure we are quite in agreement on the

:48:58.:49:01.

numbers. But we will have a proper discussion about that. I hope he

:49:02.:49:05.

would note that in response to his request we did make a protected time

:49:06.:49:09.

available for a debate on Tuesday. We will obviously look at doing that

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in the future where it is important to do so. On Saturday, I joined the

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Dartmoor search and rescue team and learnt that 70% of calls to the

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service come from within the boundaries of Plymouth, many in Home

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Park, due to elderly people getting lost. Can we have a debate on how we

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might support these excellent volunteers, who get no money from

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central government? Mr Speaker, my honourable friend makes an important

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point. One thing I have suggested before is that the back edge

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business committee might consider holding a four-day debate when one

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is available on volunteering in this country. There are a large number of

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members who would like to pay tribute to the work done in their

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constituency. I cannot resist simply drawing attention to a news story

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this week that a council in East Anglia has appointed the first

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hedgehog tsar. It is clear that his campaign is already making a

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difference. Last week I was approached by retailers facing an

:50:22.:50:25.

affordable business rates due to the end of the business rates retail

:50:26.:50:29.

relief. Can we have a debate to discuss whether the government plans

:50:30.:50:33.

to subsidise these retailers, many of whom would have to close as a

:50:34.:50:39.

result of the rises average Mr Speaker, of course we are all very

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concerned about the future of the high street. This is a matter which

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certainly can be brought up during the debate on the budget next week.

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I do not yet know whether the Chancellor has any plans in this

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area, but she will want to make the case for her constituency in the

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four days of debate which followed a budget. It is very much one of the

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matters on the agenda. Today we are starting a consultation on the

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designs following the terrible flooding we had in 2011 on the River

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Parrett. I am grateful for the support from across the House. This

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is massively important. 12% of my district council were underwater in

:51:23.:51:26.

2011. The history and the lessons we are learning in the south and the

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north of the UK, is there a time to have a statement in this House?

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First of all, pay tribute to buy honourable friend, who has been a

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more than effective advocate for his constituency and for the areas of

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Somerset affected by flooding. I know lessons have been learned and

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some significant steps have been taken since. There will be another

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occasion next Thursday to question the Environment Secretary, which I

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am sure he will do. When can we discuss early day motion 1182, which

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takes us into the forbidden area that the views of the monarchy

:52:14.:52:16.

cannot be discussed in This Place, and only in This Place - it can be

:52:17.:52:19.

discussed everywhere else. But it does raise the conduct of a

:52:20.:52:23.

well-documented conspiracy between Sir Jeremy Heywood and Sir

:52:24.:52:30.

Christopher guide at a time when the Scottish referendum appeared to be

:52:31.:52:33.

in trouble from the governance Ali point of view. And it is alleged

:52:34.:52:37.

that these two gentlemen conspired to put the Queen'sopinion into the

:52:38.:52:42.

public domain. Is it not important that we discuss those who give

:52:43.:52:46.

advice to the Royal Family, because their main function is to act in

:52:47.:52:53.

situations where a Prime Minister is acting in her or his own interests

:52:54.:53:00.

against the interests of the country, and then, the

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politicisation of the monarchy would mean that they could not act in

:53:03.:53:06.

those situations, and any exposure of the Royal Family 's views

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threatens the and continuation of the institution? There are rather

:53:12.:53:19.

large numbers of conspiracy theories in this world. If we spent all that

:53:20.:53:23.

time in this House discussing them, we would not get around to

:53:24.:53:26.

discussing the serious business of the nation. Therefore I regret I

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think we will not be discussing that particular issue. Can I say, right

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honourable friend how pleased I am that the House will be sitting on

:53:36.:53:39.

the 26th of May, because that will be the seventh anniversary of the

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Prime Minister's famous speech on fixing broken politics, in which he

:53:44.:53:46.

called for more backbench power, more free votes and less pudding.

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Cowie on that occasion have a debate -- less whipping -- on the progress

:53:54.:54:05.

made on those principles?! Independent spirit on the

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backbenches is certainly not something which is lacking in this

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Parliament. This day week is St Patrick's Day. Yesterday I tabled a

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request that the government bring forward legislative proposals

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because it is not a devolved matter, to make St Patrick's Day a public

:54:23.:54:26.

holiday in Northern Ireland. Will the Leader of the House facilitate a

:54:27.:54:33.

debate about this important issue? Well, Mr Speaker, of course it is a

:54:34.:54:37.

subject she feels strongly about. I think we always have to be careful

:54:38.:54:41.

about granting too many extra bank honoured a is because of the

:54:42.:54:44.

economic impact on the areas. I am sure she will bring forward an

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adjournment debate and bring a minister to the House to make the

:54:49.:54:50.

point which she has raised this morning. Would my right honourable

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friend find time for a debate on the practice of big businesses trying to

:54:56.:55:00.

stop members of Parliament doing their democratic duty and raising

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constituentss' concerns in This Place? Outrageously, national

:55:05.:55:11.

express group plc has written to the Noble Lord Fellman, the chairman of

:55:12.:55:14.

the Conservative Party, complaining that I have been raising in This

:55:15.:55:17.

Place issues regarding my constituents' anxieties over CQC

:55:18.:55:27.

timetable changes. Mr Speaker, I suspect that National Express May

:55:28.:55:29.

Need A New Political Advisers. One Thing You Can Be Certain Of Is That

:55:30.:55:34.

Writing A Letter Of Complaint About My Honourable Friend Is Likely To

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Make Him More Zealous, Rather Than Less Zealous. And rightly so! At

:55:38.:55:49.

seven a this morning, a report was produced on the energy market

:55:50.:55:53.

investigation. I welcome this report. It focuses on prepayment

:55:54.:55:59.

users and the hashtag prepay rip-off. I have had an adjournment

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Abate, I have written to the Prime Minister and the Secretary of State

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and the response has been inadequate. Will the Leader of the

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House make government time so that we can have a proper discussion,

:56:11.:56:13.

which is urgently needed in this House, to explore the CMA's

:56:14.:56:16.

recommendation, which the minister said that she will in ferment? Of

:56:17.:56:21.

course, the Energy Secretary will be here in ten days to do just that. If

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she wants to raise matters before that, I suggest she writes and I

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will make the Energy Secretary aware that she will be raising the issue

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at that point. In the first half of last year, six cyclists were fatally

:56:35.:56:39.

injured in London following collisions with HGV four. Would he

:56:40.:56:43.

find time in the Parliamentary calendar to debate the costs and

:56:44.:56:47.

benefits of restricting HGVs from city centres at rush-hour times?

:56:48.:56:53.

This is a deeply important matter. We have seen far too many tragedies

:56:54.:56:58.

in recent times, sometimes deaths are sometimes serious injuries. The

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issue has been widely raised as a matter of concern, including by the

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Times newspaper, which tragically saw one of its members of staff

:57:06.:57:09.

seriously injured in an accident with an HGV. We want to take all

:57:10.:57:13.

possible steps to improve the situation. The Mayor of London has

:57:14.:57:16.

taken a lead on this. We will continue to look at different ideas

:57:17.:57:18.

on improving the situation. This week we saw the Premier League

:57:19.:57:28.

make the good announcement that all clubs will cap the cost of away

:57:29.:57:38.

tickets at ?30. More pressing for fans, particularly Middlesbrough

:57:39.:57:40.

fans who will be watching their team at Charlton is the changing of

:57:41.:57:45.

fixtures. Their recent game was supposed to be on Saturday. Many

:57:46.:57:54.

fans made arrangements and will not be able to attend due to changing

:57:55.:57:58.

those arrangements. With television coverage having such dominance over

:57:59.:58:03.

coverage, can we have a debate about that? TV coverage has brought the

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ability to watch matches to a much broader audience but I absolutely

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understand the point he is making. I do not support last-minute changes

:58:22.:58:26.

to arrangements. Can we have a debate on oral

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payments agency? Does the leader share my constituency concerns that

:58:46.:58:50.

some small shrubs up our farmers -- some small Shropshire farmers have

:58:51.:58:59.

still not been paid causing great hardship. It is not acceptable for

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small farmers to be left in a position where their cash flows are

:59:08.:59:13.

left inappropriately stretched. A series of payments have been made

:59:14.:59:19.

covering the full range of small and medium-sized farm businesses across

:59:20.:59:28.

the industry. 83% of medium farm businesses have received payments

:59:29.:59:31.

but the Secretary of State is well aware of the need to complete this

:59:32.:59:35.

job and we do not want to see farmers under undue pressure and it

:59:36.:59:41.

is not fair for them to be left high and dry. As chairman of the

:59:42.:59:47.

all-party kidney disease group, can I say, welcome to world kidney Day.

:59:48.:59:56.

Polycystic kidney disease accounts for one in four kidney dialysis

:59:57.:00:01.

patients and transplants. I know that the leader of the house is

:00:02.:00:05.

allergic to anything to do with Brussels but the polycystic kidney

:00:06.:00:12.

disease Association do have a Brussels declaration which calls for

:00:13.:00:18.

a coordinated approach to the disease, funding of research,

:00:19.:00:24.

patient centre care parts ways as well as to those knowledge --

:00:25.:00:32.

knowledgeable about this disease. Can we have a debate about this

:00:33.:00:38.

matter? I understand the need to provide high-quality services to

:00:39.:00:43.

patients affected. To my mind, the important thing is to take the right

:00:44.:00:47.

decisions for patients in this country which is what the government

:00:48.:00:52.

is doing through Investment In Health Care. Can we have a vote on

:00:53.:01:01.

English votes for English laws. The farce that we had yesterday showed

:01:02.:01:08.

that we don't have English votes for English laws and it was made

:01:09.:01:13.

abundantly clear yesterday. Can we have a debate to get it straight and

:01:14.:01:19.

out once and for all to find out what the English public think is

:01:20.:01:23.

meant by English votes for English laws? Can we have a policy on the

:01:24.:01:31.

fact that every time the SNP vote on an issue that only effects England,

:01:32.:01:39.

we deliver it Act two Holyrood for them? My honourable friend has

:01:40.:01:46.

innovative ideas to deal with the situation. He is right to talk about

:01:47.:01:56.

principles and the SNP. We said that they would have the ability to say

:01:57.:02:05.

no to measures enforced upon them by other parts of the UK. We now know

:02:06.:02:13.

that they not only want to interfere in matters like those discussed

:02:14.:02:16.

yesterday but they also want to team up with the Labour Party and impose

:02:17.:02:20.

an England solution is that the English do not want. I have been

:02:21.:02:30.

approached by small businesses in my area regarding the Chancellor's

:02:31.:02:36.

decision to end the business rate relief scheme for small businesses

:02:37.:02:41.

from April this year. Around 1000 small shops in the borough of

:02:42.:02:48.

Rochdale will face extra bills of up to ?1500. For many small shops, that

:02:49.:02:54.

is the difference between survival and going bust. Can we have an

:02:55.:02:58.

urgent debate on government time on this important subject? The answer

:02:59.:03:06.

is yes. It will start next Wednesday and the party opposite will have the

:03:07.:03:10.

chance to speak and vote on these matters if they choose to do so.

:03:11.:03:17.

Following yesterday's deliberations on Sunday trading, can I

:03:18.:03:20.

congratulate the government on the precedent they have set with the

:03:21.:03:32.

family test alongside legislation conceding the negative impact on the

:03:33.:03:38.

family. Can they confirm that all primary and secondary legislation

:03:39.:03:42.

will have a family test at the beginning of proceedings and what

:03:43.:03:44.

will happen when legislation does not pass the family test? Of course,

:03:45.:03:51.

the purpose of impact assessments and family tests is to enable the

:03:52.:03:57.

house to take an informed decision. These tests are less about an

:03:58.:04:03.

individual bar over which a measure need to jump and more about a

:04:04.:04:07.

package of information that can inform decisions. We intend to keep

:04:08.:04:12.

the house as fully informed as possible so they can take decisions.

:04:13.:04:21.

I raised the question of a constituent who was imprisoned in

:04:22.:04:24.

Israel. What action is the government taking

:04:25.:04:50.

regarding the worrying rise in blasphemy charges in Egypt? I

:04:51.:05:04.

commend his stand in protecting the Christian faith. I am aware of the

:05:05.:05:12.

concerns he has raised today. Following Tim Peake's call for

:05:13.:05:19.

pupils in Brecon and Radnorshire, can I ask my right honourable friend

:05:20.:05:26.

if we can have a debate on promoting the sciences as an option to pupils

:05:27.:05:31.

so that Britain can capitalise on our Peking interest it in science so

:05:32.:05:37.

we continue to lead the world in research and development for years

:05:38.:05:44.

to come? An important point. We celebrated Tim Peake going into

:05:45.:05:47.

space and we should also celebrate the contribution he has made since

:05:48.:05:54.

having regular interactions with the International Space Station, talking

:05:55.:05:57.

about the work he has done and inspiring young people. Long may

:05:58.:06:03.

that continue and long may there be role models like him contributing to

:06:04.:06:11.

our innovative future. Contact the elderly is a small national charity

:06:12.:06:17.

in Scotland which helps old people who live alone by funding monthly

:06:18.:06:22.

get-togethers. This kind of community support initiative is

:06:23.:06:26.

excellent and inspiring. Can we have a debate to discuss these selection

:06:27.:06:33.

initiatives? I very much support the idea of session debates. It is a

:06:34.:06:40.

real opportunity. We have had fixed moments in the past two debate

:06:41.:06:45.

things like veterans's issues and now there is a real opportunity to

:06:46.:06:49.

have debate across the United Kingdom. I forgot to say earlier, I

:06:50.:06:57.

hope the committee will give judo consideration -- due consideration

:06:58.:07:03.

in the form of a pre-recess adjournment debate. I welcome the

:07:04.:07:11.

Premier League announcement on capping away tickets at football

:07:12.:07:16.

next season but is the leader of the house aware that might seem others

:07:17.:07:22.

feel town will be offering a season ticket for just ?179 next season. ?7

:07:23.:07:29.

80 per game, great value in the championship. Will he allow a debate

:07:30.:07:34.

on the cost of football which is so important for fans across the

:07:35.:07:38.

country? I applaud what others feel town are doing. The point is that

:07:39.:07:44.

clubs like that play such an important community role and I know

:07:45.:07:48.

they are very involved in charitable activities across the town. I pay

:07:49.:07:52.

tribute to the club for playing that role in the community and doing what

:07:53.:07:57.

they can to give fans the opportunity to see them play and

:07:58.:08:01.

affordable basis. May they succeed on the pitch as a result. Happy

:08:02.:08:08.

birthday to my daughter next Tuesday. On the matter of Wales

:08:09.:08:14.

against England, made a better team win and may it be Wales. Couldn't we

:08:15.:08:21.

use the annunciator to have subtitles when we go

:08:22.:08:36.

into the 10th one procedure so they can explain the impossible task of

:08:37.:08:43.

describing what is going on. What I am not doing is reversing the

:08:44.:08:48.

gesture we made to the English of saying you have got a part of the

:08:49.:08:52.

devolution package as well. I don't think that a position that says that

:08:53.:08:59.

the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish can have devolution without the

:09:00.:09:07.

English having it is something we can go back on. West Berkshire

:09:08.:09:12.

Council has been forced by bizarre funding to do a very unconservative

:09:13.:09:18.

thing which is to raise taxes and cut services to those in need. We

:09:19.:09:28.

have the perverse actions of the office which can wipe millions of

:09:29.:09:31.

pounds of business rates from a small unity authority for large

:09:32.:09:36.

sites. Can we have a debate about the actions of the valuations office

:09:37.:09:42.

agency about how small councils are funded? An excellent point. I will

:09:43.:09:52.

draw attention to his concerns to the Secretary of State. It is likely

:09:53.:09:55.

that the issue of business rates will be addressed next week as well.

:09:56.:10:02.

On the 2nd of December, the Prime Minister promised this house that he

:10:03.:10:06.

would make quarterly statements on the involvement of British military

:10:07.:10:13.

forces in Syria. That should have happened by the 2nd of March. Can we

:10:14.:10:18.

have an urgent statement of when we are going to have these vital

:10:19.:10:23.

quarterly updates? What I said last week is that we would be holding

:10:24.:10:27.

such statements and it would happen before the Easter recess. Can I add

:10:28.:10:36.

my voice to the calls for a debate on having genuine English votes for

:10:37.:10:44.

English laws, despite the recent reforms, yesterday proved that the

:10:45.:10:49.

votes of Scottish MPs are still able to stop my constituents from

:10:50.:10:52.

enjoying the same freedoms that their own constituents enjoyed. An

:10:53.:11:00.

important point. We should remember that the SNP when we were debating

:11:01.:11:06.

EVEL said that we don't need this because we don't take part. That

:11:07.:11:10.

promise was shown yesterday to be paper-thin. We celebrated

:11:11.:11:21.

International Women's Day with a superb debate in the chamber. I

:11:22.:11:27.

pointed out that only fathers names appear on birth certificates and not

:11:28.:11:34.

mothers named. I have a private members bill that will add mothers

:11:35.:11:41.

marriage names -- names to marriage certificates. Can we please have a

:11:42.:11:52.

debate in government time? Can I say to her, I'm afraid that she is

:11:53.:11:56.

running into a long queue at the end of the session for private members

:11:57.:11:59.

bills but the commitment that the government made stamps.

:12:00.:12:06.

As this is English Tourism Week, could we find time for a debate on

:12:07.:12:13.

the important contribution of tourism to the English economy? A

:12:14.:12:18.

record 35mm as it is came last year, but we need to get them out of

:12:19.:12:24.

London to visit other areas of the country, and maybe visit the fleece

:12:25.:12:27.

Inn, which was named Pub of the year recently?! Indeed, I hope that the

:12:28.:12:34.

announcement of the recess dates will give a moment for honourable

:12:35.:12:38.

members to pay ever visit to Worcestershire and take advantage of

:12:39.:12:40.

the fine hospitality you will find there. I am sure he would be

:12:41.:12:44.

delighted to have the whole house visit. The Leader of the House will

:12:45.:12:51.

know that I have been calling for support on all sides of this House

:12:52.:12:57.

to address the root causes of serious youth violence. We had a

:12:58.:13:00.

backbench debate on the issue last week. Earlier this week, the

:13:01.:13:04.

Secretary of State adjusters confirm that he will report back to the

:13:05.:13:08.

House on progress made on this issue. Can the leader of the explain

:13:09.:13:12.

how this will happen and when we can expect that report? My right

:13:13.:13:20.

honourable friend has these matters under review all the time. We have

:13:21.:13:23.

made significant changes for example to the laws on live crime. We have

:13:24.:13:27.

taken through the work which has been done with the Home Office on

:13:28.:13:31.

gangs, to try to break them up. And of course the Justice Secretary is

:13:32.:13:36.

before this House regularly and will provide regular updates. Can

:13:37.:13:44.

a debate on the importance of raising the profile of dyslexia

:13:45.:13:49.

teacher training, which many people are concerned is not getting the

:13:50.:13:56.

sort of focus which it should be? Mr Speaker, my honourable friend makes

:13:57.:14:00.

a very, very important point. It is certainly the case that many young

:14:01.:14:04.

people who struggle at school do so because they are dyslexic. I have

:14:05.:14:08.

already discussed this with the Secretary of State, who assured me

:14:09.:14:12.

that part of the training manoeuvre teaches does contain help on the

:14:13.:14:19.

understanding of dyslexia. We will do everything we can. I'm sure the

:14:20.:14:32.

House will want to join me in welcoming the two defeats last night

:14:33.:14:34.

in the Other Place on the Immigration Bill? Could he make a

:14:35.:14:37.

statement to confirm whether the government will use last night's

:14:38.:14:42.

vote as motivation to start treating asylum seekers with the respect and

:14:43.:14:47.

dignity that they deserve? That is a first, I cannot remember the

:14:48.:14:49.

Scottish National Party praising what happened in the House of Lords.

:14:50.:14:53.

But what I would say to him is that I think we have a record of treating

:14:54.:14:57.

asylum seekers which bears comparison with anywhere in the

:14:58.:15:01.

world. I will not hear anybody say otherwise. Can I congratulate my

:15:02.:15:04.

right honourable friend for his excellent contribution to Radio 4

:15:05.:15:09.

and for his excellent speech? And can we ask for a speech in

:15:10.:15:12.

government time on the merits of leaving the EU, which I suggest

:15:13.:15:23.

should have a project title Hope? He tempts me but he must bear in mind

:15:24.:15:28.

that the governments position is to recommend that Britannia Stadium the

:15:29.:15:33.

European Union. We will have debates in the country and ultimately in

:15:34.:15:35.

June, the British people will decide. Three days, the

:15:36.:15:48.

institutional investors group which represents ?13 trillion of assets

:15:49.:15:52.

under management wrote to the Chancellor to ensure mandatory

:15:53.:15:55.

corporate disclosure of climate risks. Could we have a debate in

:15:56.:16:00.

government time on the mandatory reporting of climate risks, so that

:16:01.:16:04.

there is transparency about the financial health of our corporate

:16:05.:16:08.

and that the confidence of such an enormous body of investment funds

:16:09.:16:12.

can be increased? He is another person we need to wish a happy

:16:13.:16:17.

birthday to. We are at the leading edge in this country in combating

:16:18.:16:21.

climate change. We have adopted targets which stand comparison with

:16:22.:16:25.

anywhere in the world. But I do think simply putting additional

:16:26.:16:29.

reporting requirements and the sleep on to business leads to us having

:16:30.:16:32.

fewer jobs in this country, and not more. -- requirements endlessly on

:16:33.:16:42.

to business. As tens of thousands of people arrived in Cheltenham for the

:16:43.:16:47.

superb jump racing festival, we are reminded how necessary have been the

:16:48.:16:50.

upgrades at the railway station. Can we have an announcement on the

:16:51.:16:57.

delivery of station funding pledges? Of course we have just missed

:16:58.:17:00.

transport questions, which took place this morning, but I'm sure he

:17:01.:17:04.

will be able to raise an adjournment debate if he wants. Can I wish him

:17:05.:17:08.

and his constituents well for what is one of the best racing events in

:17:09.:17:13.

the country - perhaps not quite as good as the Epsom Derby. Tomorrow I

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will be visiting my constituent Walter Brown from Duckinfield, who

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is 90 years of age but who has just been awarded an award from France

:17:26.:17:30.

for his role in the liberation of France in 1944 as a Marine

:17:31.:17:37.

commander. Can I request a debate on what a privilege it is to request

:17:38.:17:40.

somebody like Walter Brown in the House of Commons and request the

:17:41.:17:44.

whole house put on record it's thanks? I absolutely agree with him.

:17:45.:17:48.

I have a gentleman in my constituency in the same position. I

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think it is a real tribute to the government of France but they have

:17:52.:17:55.

seen fit to honour in this way the grip of people who risked their

:17:56.:18:00.

lives to try to save France from the Nazis, and did so successfully. We

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should always remember them and be grateful to them and I am very glad

:18:05.:18:10.

the French have recognised that. You will be aware that on previous

:18:11.:18:14.

occasions I have raised the issue of literally hundreds of casual

:18:15.:18:18.

labourers congregating outside the queue in Queensbury, on the border

:18:19.:18:22.

between my constituency and that of the honourable member for brand

:18:23.:18:26.

north. I am pleased to say that Harlow Council and Brent Council

:18:27.:18:29.

have introduced a public space protection order under which anyone

:18:30.:18:34.

that picks up those casual labourers will be liable for a fixed rate

:18:35.:18:38.

penalty of ?100. Could we find time for a debate in this House, because

:18:39.:18:41.

this is a problem which emanates across the country? So that public

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space protection orders can be put in place to stop this unauthorised

:18:48.:18:50.

activity? It is a very important issue. The Business Secretary is

:18:51.:18:56.

here on Tuesday and I will ask him to be prepared to address the issue.

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All too often these people are operating within a gang master

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culture which is below the radar and is not within the legal framework of

:19:07.:19:11.

work in this country. And where those people are very likely to be

:19:12.:19:17.

exploited. Last year, Sir Nicholas McPherson said he would not hesitate

:19:18.:19:20.

to call in the police if the budget was leaked. Should any stories about

:19:21.:19:24.

this year's budget appear in the papers this weekend, will the Leader

:19:25.:19:30.

of the House join this most senior official in calling for the police

:19:31.:19:33.

to come and investigate and give time for this House to debate it?

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I'm not sure that if the civil service think anything untoward has

:19:40.:19:41.

been done, we will take appropriate action. Last Saturday I joined

:19:42.:19:50.

hundreds of residents at the only municipal golf course in our area to

:19:51.:19:55.

protest against plans by the council to close the facility. The Lib Dem

:19:56.:19:59.

run council claimed that getting the course would save ?50,000 a year and

:20:00.:20:04.

blamed cuts in government funding. However the same month, the council

:20:05.:20:11.

spent an estimated ?300,000 on a now unused health centre and admitted

:20:12.:20:15.

they have no plans for what they intend to do with it. Can we have a

:20:16.:20:20.

debate on the shocking mismanagement on my local council? As ever, my

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honourable friend is a very articulately presented if of his

:20:26.:20:29.

constituents. He is an appropriate critic of his Labour council. Around

:20:30.:20:33.

the country, where difficult decisions are having to be taken by

:20:34.:20:38.

councils, one finds Conservative ones taking a thoughtful approach

:20:39.:20:42.

whilst Labour councils take dumb decisions like the one he has just

:20:43.:20:52.

mentioned. As my honourable friends have referred to, the Chancellor

:20:53.:20:57.

Sunny decision to remove retail rate relief is causing great

:20:58.:21:00.

consternation for small businesses, having to find an extra ?1500 a

:21:01.:21:07.

year. In the area of Chester, 472 businesses will have to find an

:21:08.:21:12.

extra ?1.8 million next year. Can the leader assured us there will be

:21:13.:21:15.

sufficient time over the next few weeks to debate whether this is

:21:16.:21:19.

really the right time to start clobbering small businesses with

:21:20.:21:23.

more taxes? Mr Speaker, I can assure him that time will be available next

:21:24.:21:27.

week. We have four days available for the post-budget debate. When he

:21:28.:21:31.

talks about clobbering businesses, for 13 years in this country,

:21:32.:21:34.

businesses and suffered at the hands of a government which did not

:21:35.:21:38.

understand them, regulated in a way which caused them deeper problems

:21:39.:21:41.

and led to the halving of our manufacturing sector. Ministers have

:21:42.:21:48.

been very willing to engage on the steel issue. But in advance of the

:21:49.:21:51.

budget next week, will there be the opportunity to put the case for a

:21:52.:21:54.

business rates holiday for the injury to the Chancellor on the

:21:55.:21:58.

floor of this House? Mr Speaker, there will be that, at the Business

:21:59.:22:04.

Secretary is here on Tuesday, and he has been working with the steel

:22:05.:22:08.

industry. Can I suggest that he raises it with him then? Apologies

:22:09.:22:17.

for leaving the Chamber earlier on. It was somewhat ironic, a number of

:22:18.:22:25.

SNP members actually got a cheer from the office in the last ten

:22:26.:22:29.

days. Will the Leader of the House make a statement outlining that the

:22:30.:22:35.

title is not a complete misnomer? During the enterprise built, the

:22:36.:22:39.

second reading, the House was asked to vote on amendments which had not

:22:40.:22:43.

been seen. The government took a view on the SNP position Joseph

:22:44.:22:51.

Tuite now know was wrong. A government minister was pleading the

:22:52.:22:54.

House to vote with them because he was not going to implement what was

:22:55.:22:59.

on the bill. It was a farce from start to finish. Can we get a

:23:00.:23:03.

statement from the Leader of the House and the government? I am sorry

:23:04.:23:10.

but I think the only farce around here is the approach the SNP has

:23:11.:23:13.

taken to this. I did not vote in amity. They then decided to vote

:23:14.:23:17.

against it later, and we know it was for reasons of opportunism, not

:23:18.:23:28.

principle. -- in amity. He may know this week we had a serious outbreak

:23:29.:23:32.

of Stockholm syndrome in the east of England, as eight local leaders

:23:33.:23:39.

backed the remaining campaign in the press. Is it not important that

:23:40.:23:42.

voters know what level of funding from all forms of the European Union

:23:43.:23:47.

has induced this self-interested plea to hand more powers and money

:23:48.:23:52.

to Brussels? Mr Speaker, we have well established principles in this

:23:53.:23:57.

country of transparency in our political system. I think it is

:23:58.:24:00.

important in the coming months, whichever side of the argument we

:24:01.:24:03.

may be on, that people who have a financial link to the European Union

:24:04.:24:07.

make that clear as they make their arguments. Statement, the minister

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of State for Skills. With permission, I would like to make a

:24:20.:24:23.

statement about apprenticeships. As you know, Mr Speaker, I am

:24:24.:24:27.

evangelical about apprenticeships. While we do not always agree with

:24:28.:24:30.

each other on every question, I know that to a woman and to a man, all My

:24:31.:24:35.

Honourable and Right Honourable Friends share this passion. We

:24:36.:24:38.

believe in apprenticeships because they are one of the most powerful

:24:39.:24:41.

motors of social mobility and productivity growth. An

:24:42.:24:47.

apprenticeship represents opportunity, aspiration, ambition,

:24:48.:24:53.

things which we conservatives cherish. It makes us more

:24:54.:24:56.

competitive. 70% of employers report that apprentices help improve the

:24:57.:25:01.

quality of their product or service. They offer people a ladder to climb,

:25:02.:25:05.

with both higher pay and a sense of fulfilment at the end of it. A level

:25:06.:25:11.

to apprenticeship raises people's incomes by an average of 11% 3-5

:25:12.:25:17.

years later. -- a level two apprenticeship. Apprenticeships

:25:18.:25:22.

improve the diversity of the workplace. 53% of people starting an

:25:23.:25:27.

apprenticeship in 2013-14 were women. 10.6% were from a black or

:25:28.:25:35.

other ethnic minority background, up from 8% three years earlier. 8.8%

:25:36.:25:43.

had a disability or learning difficulty. Sir Alex Ferguson did

:25:44.:25:47.

one, so did Jamie Oliver and Karen Millen and Sir Ian McKellen. So did

:25:48.:25:56.

the Chair people of great businesses. The government has great

:25:57.:26:00.

ambitions for our apprenticeships programme. In the last Parliament,

:26:01.:26:04.

2.4 million people started an apprenticeship. By 2020, we want a 3

:26:05.:26:09.

million to have that opportunity. We do not just wanted to see more

:26:10.:26:13.

apprenticeships. We want better apprenticeships in more sectors

:26:14.:26:17.

covering more roles. The first thing we need to do is persuade more

:26:18.:26:21.

employers to offer apprenticeships. At the moment only about 15% of

:26:22.:26:26.

employers in England do. In Germany it is 24%. In Australia, 30%. So we

:26:27.:26:33.

are introducing a new apprenticeship levy which will be paid by all

:26:34.:26:37.

larger employers, those with an annual payroll bill of ?3 million or

:26:38.:26:42.

more. This will help us increase our spending on apprenticeships in

:26:43.:26:45.

England from ?1.5 billion last year to ?2.5 billion in 2019-20.

:26:46.:26:52.

Employers who pay the levy will see the money they have paid any English

:26:53.:26:56.

apprenticeships appear in their digital account. They will be able

:26:57.:26:59.

to spend it on apprenticeship training, but only on apprenticeship

:27:00.:27:04.

training. As the Chancellor has emphasised, employers will be able

:27:05.:27:06.

to get out more than they put in. We are making sure that including

:27:07.:27:25.

the Armed Forces that employs up to 1000 apprenticeships at any one

:27:26.:27:34.

time. At least 2.3% of staff will be apprenticeships. Procurement rules

:27:35.:27:41.

now stipulate that bidders for central government contracts worth

:27:42.:27:45.

more than ?10 million and lasting over 12 months must demonstrate

:27:46.:27:50.

their commitment to apprenticeships. We are not only committed to greater

:27:51.:27:55.

quantity, we want to see greater quality. We have stopped the

:27:56.:27:59.

short-term, low quality, programme led apprenticeships developed by the

:28:00.:28:06.

last Labour government which tarnished the brand. We are asking

:28:07.:28:12.

new groups of employees to develop apprenticeships that will fill the

:28:13.:28:18.

skills needs created. We have published ten new standards so far

:28:19.:28:27.

with a further 150 in development. We are establishing an employer led

:28:28.:28:31.

Institute for apprenticeships to ensure quality is maintained. 60 of

:28:32.:28:37.

these new standards are higher and greet apprenticeships. We want

:28:38.:28:41.

everyone making a choice about their next step after 16 or 18 to know

:28:42.:28:46.

that the decision to do an apprenticeship is not to cap your

:28:47.:28:52.

ambition but simply a decision to progress in a different way, to

:28:53.:28:57.

learn while you earn and take more time but bring home a wage and avoid

:28:58.:29:03.

large student loans. Next week is National apprenticeship week. I hope

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that the house of Commons will let everyone know that an apprenticeship

:29:16.:29:23.

can take you every where. I commend this statement to the house. I thank

:29:24.:29:31.

the gentleman for a limited advance site at his statement, I suppose

:29:32.:29:37.

after the turmoil of yesterday we should be thankful it didn't just

:29:38.:29:42.

turn up in manuscript. It seems to be a dance of the seven veils. What

:29:43.:29:48.

he said today is simply a rehash of much of what was already said in the

:29:49.:29:54.

English apprenticeship occupant and that is what concerns the sector.

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Fine words but no parsnips. This is a pale shadow of what we proposed in

:30:01.:30:07.

our 2010 manifesto. Most crucially, there is no clarity to universities

:30:08.:30:14.

and large employers about what their responsibilities will be. Can I ask,

:30:15.:30:21.

will this levy be extra money or a substitute for government funding?

:30:22.:30:26.

Extra resources or an Osborne payroll tax? Whether the amount

:30:27.:30:35.

raised will be more less than the ?1 billion extra spend that he has said

:30:36.:30:41.

he hopes to add to spending on apprenticeships in England? He was

:30:42.:30:45.

supposed to respond to the targets for apprenticeships by March four.

:30:46.:30:53.

Have they done so? When will he do so? Will he spell out far more than

:30:54.:31:03.

he has so far how S MEDs are going to benefit from the process and what

:31:04.:31:07.

does he say to the chartered Institute for taxation who are

:31:08.:31:14.

worried that businesses will not be able to use their ?15,000 allowance?

:31:15.:31:21.

What members of the business sector want to know is will he be too

:31:22.:31:25.

catholic in his definition of apprenticeships? Will he stop

:31:26.:31:35.

sounding like a Soviet five-year plan on track to targets? With

:31:36.:31:42.

concerns about the quality of these apprenticeships, will he tell others

:31:43.:31:45.

who will supervise the operation of the apprenticeships levy will it be

:31:46.:31:54.

the delivery board or the board of the Institute for apprenticeships?

:31:55.:31:58.

What has he to say to the business select committee chair who has said

:31:59.:32:03.

this morning, I'm told, no one knows what the apprenticeship levy is

:32:04.:32:08.

going to look like. I am concerned it is just a numbers game. What is

:32:09.:32:13.

he to say to the Public Accounts Committee who are so concerned about

:32:14.:32:17.

the direction of his department that they have recalled him and the

:32:18.:32:22.

secretary for a second grilling before Easter. Perhaps he would like

:32:23.:32:28.

to tell others how he anticipates delivering that 3 million target

:32:29.:32:34.

over a short period of time and implementing the levy over a very

:32:35.:32:39.

short period of time with staffing levels down since 2011 by 40%, more

:32:40.:32:46.

cuts to come and an exhilarating decline in the numbers of people in

:32:47.:32:49.

the national apprenticeships service? It is amusing to be accused

:32:50.:32:57.

in a relatively short statement from the gentleman of both being

:32:58.:33:04.

Catholic, a Soviet planner and a dancer with seven veils. I will put

:33:05.:33:13.

it on my epitaph. In the last year of the last Labour government,

:33:14.:33:17.

public spending an apprenticeship training was ?1 billion. It is now

:33:18.:33:22.

?1.5 billion and by the end of this parliament it will be ?2.5 billion.

:33:23.:33:29.

That is extra money by anyone's book. There isn't a single public

:33:30.:33:34.

service budget that is increasing as fast. To answer the question about

:33:35.:33:39.

how much the levy is going to raise and how much is going to be spent,

:33:40.:33:48.

in 20 19-20, the levy will raise half ?1 billion. It will raise

:33:49.:34:02.

enough to give funding to the Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish

:34:03.:34:09.

governments. All the remaining ?2.5 billion will be spent on English

:34:10.:34:14.

apprenticeships. He asked how small and medium-sized businesses who are

:34:15.:34:17.

not paying the levy will get to benefit from government funding for

:34:18.:34:22.

apprenticeships. We expect them to carry on spending money on

:34:23.:34:25.

apprenticeships, receiving government money for

:34:26.:34:31.

apprenticeships, as they do now. We don't anticipate that all companies

:34:32.:34:35.

that pay the levy will use up all of the money in their digital accounts

:34:36.:34:40.

and there will be a great deal more money to go around. We are

:34:41.:34:44.

determined that the level of apprenticeships provided by small

:34:45.:34:51.

and medium-sized businesses will continue as now. The operation of

:34:52.:34:59.

the digital system that will be used to give employers control of the

:35:00.:35:04.

apprenticeship levy money that they have contributed will be the

:35:05.:35:08.

responsibility of the skills funding agency and the Institute for

:35:09.:35:15.

apprenticeships will have complete responsibility for overseeing

:35:16.:35:19.

standards and quality control. There are many more questions that the

:35:20.:35:24.

honourable gentleman would like answers to and indeed the chairman

:35:25.:35:27.

of the Business Select Committee who I look forward to hearing from. They

:35:28.:35:32.

will have to wait just a little. The Chancellor is going to be making his

:35:33.:35:38.

budget statement next week and after the Budget Statement, more technical

:35:39.:35:41.

details will be provided so everybody knows in advance how the

:35:42.:35:48.

levy is going to work. I welcome the statement from the minister. Since

:35:49.:35:53.

the election, more than 4000 apprenticeships have been created in

:35:54.:35:59.

my constituency. Will the Minister join me, particularly this week in

:36:00.:36:04.

the run-up to national apprenticeship week, in thanking

:36:05.:36:08.

those businesses, organisations and colleges who have helped deliver

:36:09.:36:11.

those apprenticeships and will he reassure me that we will continue to

:36:12.:36:18.

make sure the public sector give all their opportunities to those who

:36:19.:36:28.

need them, including women. The public sector has not up to this

:36:29.:36:33.

date been pulling its weight. The proportion is not the same as in the

:36:34.:36:39.

hole so we are going to impose the target on larger public sector and

:36:40.:36:46.

employers. We know that apprenticeships will help them do a

:36:47.:36:53.

better job. Can I thank the Minister for an advanced copy of his

:36:54.:36:57.

statement. Surprised by the time of it. Apprenticeship week was in

:36:58.:37:04.

Scotland last week, it would have been beneficial to have it then. The

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Scottish Government has committed to creating 25,000 modern

:37:10.:37:15.

apprenticeships per year which encompass 80 different types of M

:37:16.:37:19.

as. What consultation has there been with the Scottish Government on this

:37:20.:37:27.

important issue. I question the method used to raise the money and

:37:28.:37:35.

its sustainability. Apprenticeships remain a matter of fundamental

:37:36.:37:41.

concern. If it in Cridge is on our devolved responsibilities and has

:37:42.:37:46.

come in criticism from a wide variety of organisations, including

:37:47.:37:49.

CBI and the Chartered Institute of Taxation. The levy will have a

:37:50.:37:54.

knock-on effect in Scotland and I call the government to consider its

:37:55.:38:00.

economic impact in Scotland. Police Scotland will have to pay up to ?4.5

:38:01.:38:08.

million per year under UK Government plans for an apprenticeship levy.

:38:09.:38:15.

The UK Government has still to provide clarity on how Scotland's

:38:16.:38:20.

share of the levy will be calculated and transferred to the Scottish

:38:21.:38:23.

Government. When will that clarity come? It is great to hear about the

:38:24.:38:34.

Scottish Government's committee to -- commitment to apprenticeships and

:38:35.:38:41.

because they will have a substantial contribution to the levy, I hope

:38:42.:38:47.

they will be able to increase their rate to the levy. I think on the

:38:48.:38:52.

whole it would be fair to say that the level of the apprenticeship levy

:38:53.:38:56.

is not the greatest problem facing police Scotland. Thanks to my right

:38:57.:39:05.

honourable friend for coming down to Weymouth College to launch our third

:39:06.:39:09.

apprenticeship. I look forward to seeing him. As a conservative, I

:39:10.:39:22.

don't like levys instinctively. Does he have any fears for the future if,

:39:23.:39:28.

heaven forbid, a socialist government could take over as it

:39:29.:39:34.

might be an area of taxation that they would like to increase for

:39:35.:39:41.

other reasons. Any excuse to come to Weymouth, I am very happy. I thank

:39:42.:39:49.

him for inviting me. I feel innate scepticism about a new levy on

:39:50.:39:53.

business but if you talk to large businesses, what they say, the ones

:39:54.:39:59.

investing in apprenticeships is that some of their competitors don't and

:40:00.:40:07.

it is strange is the -- strains the overall pressure on business by some

:40:08.:40:15.

because others are taking a free ride. If you have to have a new levy

:40:16.:40:23.

and I agree that you only do so as a last resort, it is best to have one

:40:24.:40:26.

that employers control and can benefit from it is always nice to

:40:27.:40:34.

see the Minister and it is always nice to discuss apprenticeships in

:40:35.:40:41.

the house. Given that the house discussed the enterprise Bill

:40:42.:40:45.

yesterday and the day before, why wasn't the public sector

:40:46.:40:48.

apprenticeship target mentioned? Will there be a need for new

:40:49.:40:54.

legislation? The levy will be the means by which we need to increase

:40:55.:41:03.

apprenticeships. Will he give us any information about the 98% of

:41:04.:41:10.

employers who won't pay the levy. He seemed to indicate that things won't

:41:11.:41:13.

change or that a large number of employees would give this levy

:41:14.:41:20.

really. Can he provide clarity as to if not, what is the point of the

:41:21.:41:26.

statement? I'm grateful to the honourable gentleman for returning

:41:27.:41:33.

to this subject of the public sector target. It gives me a chance to

:41:34.:41:38.

respond to a front bench question. We weren't due to respond to the

:41:39.:41:44.

consultation by the 4th of March, it was that the consultation closed on

:41:45.:41:48.

the 4th of March. It does take more than six days to go through the

:41:49.:41:55.

consultation responses and decide our response. We do not need

:41:56.:42:01.

legislation to create that target. That is why it wasn't necessary to

:42:02.:42:07.

include it in the enterprise Bill. I understand his impatience and to

:42:08.:42:12.

some extent change it -- share it as to how the levy and the accounting

:42:13.:42:17.

system is going to work for employers. I can assure him that

:42:18.:42:21.

more than 12 months notice will be given to everyone so we will be

:42:22.:42:25.

publishing very soon and he will be aware that there is a budget next

:42:26.:42:29.

week and he knows it would be a career limiting move for me to

:42:30.:42:33.

anticipate the Chancellor in that Budget Statement.

:42:34.:42:40.

The Prime Minister came to my constituency last August to launch

:42:41.:42:51.

the consultation on the levy. And I would like to give the minister my

:42:52.:42:55.

support for the way in which we are looking to increase quality by

:42:56.:42:59.

asking employers to make their own choices through the digital

:43:00.:43:03.

apprenticeship service. Can he give us a further update on the progress

:43:04.:43:08.

of making that system ready? Yes, and it gives me an opportunity to

:43:09.:43:13.

put on record my thanks to my boyfriend the member for Stratford,

:43:14.:43:20.

which unfortunately not able to be with us today, who is the Prime

:43:21.:43:24.

Minister's adviser on apprenticeships and who has a great

:43:25.:43:28.

deal of experience in business of leading major technology projects.

:43:29.:43:31.

He has been immensely helpful in working with the skills funding

:43:32.:43:34.

agency and officials in my department to create a system which

:43:35.:43:39.

is going to be very simple and user-friendly for businesses and

:43:40.:43:42.

give them absolute transparency about how much money they have

:43:43.:43:45.

contributed and what they can spend it on, and will also enable training

:43:46.:43:52.

providers to continue to take responsibility for ensuring that any

:43:53.:43:54.

promised training is in fact delivered. The member responsible

:43:55.:44:01.

for the apprenticeships public procurement bill for 2013, can I

:44:02.:44:07.

welcome the governments conversion to using the benefits of public

:44:08.:44:12.

procurement to secure additional apprenticeships? I know that it was

:44:13.:44:16.

his parties backbenchers who talked out my bill when it was going

:44:17.:44:20.

through the Commons. Can I just refer to his statement where he says

:44:21.:44:26.

that the public procurement rules now stipulate that bidders for

:44:27.:44:30.

government contracts must demonstrate their commitment to

:44:31.:44:32.

apprenticeships - precisely what does that mean? I would like to pay

:44:33.:44:37.

tribute to his leadership on this issue. And sometimes, we on this

:44:38.:44:43.

side of the House take awhile to be persuaded of the merits of an

:44:44.:44:47.

intervention, but once persuaded we are determined to fulfil it. He is

:44:48.:44:52.

right to ask a question about the mechanics. We have been advised by

:44:53.:44:57.

not least Terry Morgan, the chairman of Crossrail, who led the way on

:44:58.:45:01.

this by instituting a similar kind of expectation for all

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subcontractors to Crossrail, that it was dangerous, with the variety of

:45:06.:45:08.

public procurement, infrastructure and services, to impose a single

:45:09.:45:16.

mechanism of either a number of apprentices per million pounds of

:45:17.:45:20.

spend or a percentage of employers on a project. So what we have

:45:21.:45:25.

decided to do is to mix and match, to make the requirement depending on

:45:26.:45:29.

what the liqueur and procurement processes. Buckley will be

:45:30.:45:33.

transparent about how we do that. -- on what the procurement process is.

:45:34.:45:39.

I would like to say that I agree with him. I am also an Evangelical

:45:40.:45:44.

supporter of apprenticeships. We have a young apprentice in the

:45:45.:45:48.

office who is doing an amazing job. Would he agree that the

:45:49.:45:52.

apprenticeships form a valuable role in protecting our country, not only

:45:53.:45:57.

with our sovereign defence capability, also with the many

:45:58.:45:59.

number of apprenticeships in the Armed Forces? Yes, Madame Deputy

:46:00.:46:05.

Speaker. The Armed Forces are really leading the way on, have done for a

:46:06.:46:09.

long time. I would like to put on record my thanks to my right

:46:10.:46:12.

honourable friend Secretary of State for Defence, which takes a keen

:46:13.:46:18.

interest. The Armed Forces are confident that between them they

:46:19.:46:21.

will be able to create 100,000 apprenticeships in the life of this

:46:22.:46:26.

Parliament, contributing massively to our target. As so often, where

:46:27.:46:29.

the Armed Forces lead, we should follow. The minister should have the

:46:30.:46:38.

grace to which that it was Labour England which saved apprenticeships

:46:39.:46:42.

from the oblivion to which his parties previous governments had

:46:43.:46:46.

consigned them. It is an example of the kind of intervention which his

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party has been slow to acknowledge. He will know of the concern amongst

:46:51.:46:54.

employers that his 3 million target will only be achieved if the quality

:46:55.:47:00.

of what is on offer is reduced further. And can he give us some

:47:01.:47:07.

further reassurance on that point? I am happy to place on record that it

:47:08.:47:11.

was indeed I think perhaps mainly Lord Mandelson who reintroduced the

:47:12.:47:16.

idea of apprenticeships., I am not going to shy away from pointing out

:47:17.:47:22.

that some of the particular policy measures were apprenticeships where

:47:23.:47:25.

you did not have to have an employer and which only lasted a few months,

:47:26.:47:30.

which somewhat undermined the quality and the brand of the

:47:31.:47:34.

programme. And we have got rid of those. We have now introduced some

:47:35.:47:38.

very, very simple minimum standards. And apprenticeship must be a job. It

:47:39.:47:42.

must last at least 12 months. And it must have at least 20% of the job

:47:43.:47:49.

training content. -- off the job training content. That is why in

:47:50.:47:53.

some categories we have had a short-term dip in the number of

:47:54.:47:56.

apprenticeship starts passing me by getting rid of some of the slightly

:47:57.:47:59.

Mickey Mouse apprenticeships which had been on offer. Come I and say

:48:00.:48:10.

when the institute will be opened running, and specifically, will it

:48:11.:48:14.

have any role in resolving problems which may occur in apprenticeships?

:48:15.:48:20.

Thank you, the Institute for apprenticeships will come into being

:48:21.:48:24.

in shadow form this spring, and therefore will have 12 months to

:48:25.:48:30.

begin to take over its responsibilities before formally

:48:31.:48:35.

taking over in April 20 17. Specific points around training provision,

:48:36.:48:40.

which do sometimes occur, will continue to be dealt with in part by

:48:41.:48:44.

Ofsted through their inspections and in part by the schools funding

:48:45.:48:48.

agency, who will manage the relationship. At broader complaints

:48:49.:48:55.

will indeed be the responsibility of the Institute for apprenticeships.

:48:56.:49:03.

Last month it was announced that bomb RDA would lose 1080 jobs and

:49:04.:49:07.

that it's apprenticeship programme would suffer as a result. -- bomb

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RDA. It is one of the most impressive apprenticeship schemes

:49:14.:49:19.

that there is in Northern Ireland. -- Bombardier. What for has he given

:49:20.:49:26.

to consider some kind of co-operation between Northern

:49:27.:49:28.

Ireland and the rest of the UK in apprentices? As the honourable

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gentleman knows, this is a devolved matter. But I am happy to reassure

:49:34.:49:40.

him that I have had a meeting with ministers responsible for

:49:41.:49:41.

apprenticeships in all of the devolved administrations, and we

:49:42.:49:45.

have made a commitment to meet every six months to talk through these

:49:46.:49:49.

issues and try and learn from each other what works and what does not

:49:50.:49:53.

work. And also to ensure that the introduction of the levy actually

:49:54.:49:55.

boosts apprenticeship activity in all parts of the United Kingdom, not

:49:56.:50:03.

just in England. Last Friday, I was very pleased to host an

:50:04.:50:08.

apprenticeship and jobs fair in my constituency. I commend my

:50:09.:50:11.

honourable friend for his statement. Will he join with me in thanking

:50:12.:50:19.

employers waste in Crawley, such as Virgin Atlantic, C Geagea and others

:50:20.:50:24.

for sponsoring the apprenticeship fair and all they do in this sector?

:50:25.:50:33.

I am delighted to do that, not least because the employers that he

:50:34.:50:36.

mentioned demonstrate that apprenticeships are no longer

:50:37.:50:40.

narrowly confined to any traditional industries of construction or

:50:41.:50:43.

engineering. You can be an apprentice lawyer, accountant,

:50:44.:50:48.

digital creator. You can even probably some day be an apprentice

:50:49.:50:59.

politician. The minister will know that 96% of apprenticeships are

:51:00.:51:05.

delivered at levels two and three. Clearly it is very good that young

:51:06.:51:08.

people and others are getting those qualifications. But is he confident

:51:09.:51:11.

that enough apprenticeship opportunities exist at levels four

:51:12.:51:17.

and above, so there are clear progression routes? And I would

:51:18.:51:25.

briefly say to the minister, who I have some time for, that a lot of us

:51:26.:51:30.

on this side of the Chamber worked very hard, not least my honourable

:51:31.:51:34.

friend on the front bench, and the Chair of the select committee, to

:51:35.:51:39.

rescue apprenticeships from oblivion under a Labour government. Perhaps

:51:40.:51:45.

it would be better not to make this such a party political issue.

:51:46.:51:50.

Funnily enough, Madame Deputy Speaker, I was an apprentice

:51:51.:51:54.

politician to the honourable lady when I shadowed her as planning a

:51:55.:51:58.

list and I learnt a great deal in the process. She is right that there

:51:59.:52:03.

are currently too few higher and degree apprenticeships. And we would

:52:04.:52:06.

like to see many more of them. We are making reasonably good progress.

:52:07.:52:15.

There were 19,800 starts on higher apprenticeships, which was 115% up

:52:16.:52:20.

on the previous year. Degree apprenticeships are a relatively new

:52:21.:52:23.

concept, we now have more than 1000 people who have started them. We

:52:24.:52:28.

have much further to go. I think there will always be more level to

:52:29.:52:34.

and level three apprenticeships. , we want everybody doing these to

:52:35.:52:38.

look up and see the higher and degree apprenticeship which they

:52:39.:52:43.

could move on to. I am happy to pay tribute to her role and that of the

:52:44.:52:46.

chairman of the select committee, and the honourable gentleman, in

:52:47.:52:50.

reviving the idea and the practice of apprentice ships. Can I thank the

:52:51.:52:56.

minister, who recently met with me and colleagues from the Humber to

:52:57.:53:03.

discuss the establishment of a National Wind College in the Hull

:53:04.:53:06.

region. Could he reaffirmed the governments commitment to our young

:53:07.:53:10.

people in the region, that they will have the maximum opportunity to take

:53:11.:53:16.

advantage of the new jobs which are being created in the offshore wind

:53:17.:53:20.

sector? Absolutely. One reason why we have established the national

:53:21.:53:26.

college programme is in order to have colleges which can take

:53:27.:53:30.

especially the higher and degree apprenticeships which we are so

:53:31.:53:34.

ambitious four. The only reason why there is not already a national

:53:35.:53:38.

college for wind in his region is because the partners were not quite

:53:39.:53:41.

yet ready. We are very happy to work with them to help bring a proposal

:53:42.:53:46.

to the Chancellor once they do get ready. Could I start by paying

:53:47.:53:53.

tribute to my apprentice, Callum, and if the minister is doling out

:53:54.:53:59.

praise for those who contributed to apprenticeships, I hope he would add

:54:00.:54:03.

Vince Cable to the list, who I think played a fantastic role in

:54:04.:54:07.

government. Currently, the Government has decided to include

:54:08.:54:09.

within the definition of payroll bonuses paid to employee owners,

:54:10.:54:17.

although dividend payments are not covered. Will this mean that people

:54:18.:54:21.

at John Lewis will end up paying more in the levy? If so, does this

:54:22.:54:26.

not add a disincentive to that model of enterprise? I am very happy to

:54:27.:54:33.

pay tribute to the work done by the former Secretary of State, with whom

:54:34.:54:38.

I worked, and he managed to increase the budget for apprenticeship

:54:39.:54:40.

training at a time when most other budgets were not increasing. And

:54:41.:54:45.

that was an admirable achievement. The question he asked, I can give

:54:46.:54:50.

him a general answer. I do not want to tread on the territory of the

:54:51.:54:55.

HMRC. The general answer is that the levy will be applied to all PAYE

:54:56.:55:01.

pay, and that is the question., I will get an answer to him either

:55:02.:55:10.

from myself or from HMRC. I welcome the minister's statement this

:55:11.:55:14.

morning. I am a big fan of apprentices myself and I am

:55:15.:55:18.

extremely proud of the fact that in Rochester and Strood, we have

:55:19.:55:23.

produced 7410 since 2010, the fourth-largest in the South-East. I

:55:24.:55:28.

was at a college this week and they told me that they have had more than

:55:29.:55:33.

100 new engagements with employers since September last year. Could the

:55:34.:55:37.

minister assure me that we will continue to work with our colleges,

:55:38.:55:41.

especially in-place is like Rochester and Strood, to make sure

:55:42.:55:46.

that we have the correct provision to keep up with the demand which we

:55:47.:55:54.

are seeing? My honourable friend makes a very good point. I was

:55:55.:55:56.

meeting with college leaders just the other day. At the moment,

:55:57.:56:04.

colleges between them only secure one third of the money spent on

:56:05.:56:07.

apprenticeship training. And that money as we have heard is going to

:56:08.:56:12.

be increasing substantially. I have challenged college leaders and will

:56:13.:56:15.

do everything in my power to help them to secure two thirds of that

:56:16.:56:20.

funding, because it is a great further education college which is

:56:21.:56:22.

the heart of a community which is investing in young people and in

:56:23.:56:29.

local employers. I welcome the statement from the minister. Of

:56:30.:56:32.

course I think we do need to encourage companies to take on more

:56:33.:56:36.

apprentices to get the statistics up. I'm he will welcome in my own

:56:37.:56:42.

constituency the further education colleges moving to level three

:56:43.:56:48.

apprenticeship, right up to diploma level, which is very welcome. Could

:56:49.:56:53.

he tell me how often he would meet with the business industry and with

:56:54.:56:56.

the colleges in order to encourage more apprenticeships? Madame Deputy

:56:57.:57:02.

Speaker, obviously, I meet with the English businesses and employers and

:57:03.:57:08.

colleges a great deal. But many of those are also employers elsewhere

:57:09.:57:12.

in the United Kingdom and want to be able to have integrated

:57:13.:57:15.

apprenticeship row comes. I will commit to him that I will work with

:57:16.:57:18.

the devolved administrations to make sure that apprenticeship standards

:57:19.:57:21.

are nice in all parts of the UK. I welcome the minister's clear

:57:22.:57:33.

passion for using apprenticeships to spread opportunity and raise

:57:34.:57:37.

aspirations in our nation. Tomorrow I am attending an event held by the

:57:38.:57:46.

fell mongers so witty join me in congratulating them on helping

:57:47.:57:53.

Richmond becoming 1 of the best performing constituencies in the

:57:54.:57:57.

United Kingdom? 1 of the curious things about this job is that you

:57:58.:58:01.

discover occupations that you had literally never heard of, and I have

:58:02.:58:05.

to admit that I still don't know what fell manga is. I am sure I am

:58:06.:58:10.

going to find out and maybe 1 day I can join an apprentice Belle Monger

:58:11.:58:13.

and understand the trade that he has learned. Can I point the minister

:58:14.:58:25.

towards the survey not that long ago that showed that only 9% of young

:58:26.:58:29.

people doing a level two qualification were doing it for the

:58:30.:58:33.

first time. Bearing in mind in his statement, he said most of his

:58:34.:58:37.

agenda was about social mobility, how is that the compatible if so few

:58:38.:58:41.

people are doing that level qualification for the first time and

:58:42.:58:45.

so few are coming out with a higher level qualification that they went

:58:46.:58:50.

in with in the first place? I think the honourable gentleman is right to

:58:51.:58:53.

point out that there is a problem with people starting courses and not

:58:54.:58:58.

completing them fundamentally because the courses were

:58:59.:59:02.

inappropriate for them. It is something we need to tackle and it

:59:03.:59:05.

is more a subject that we are tackling through the panel that Lord

:59:06.:59:09.

Sainsbury is chairing, which is looking at establishing much clearer

:59:10.:59:13.

and more directive routes through technical education, so that at 16,

:59:14.:59:17.

you start because that is right for you, you're going to complete it and

:59:18.:59:22.

it will lead you to a great apprenticeship, I hope. 370 new

:59:23.:59:27.

apprenticeships were started between August and October last year in

:59:28.:59:33.

Cannock Chase, topping the tables in Staffordshire, showing that local

:59:34.:59:37.

businesses are really embracing apprenticeships. Does my honourable

:59:38.:59:41.

friend agree that involving employers in designing the standards

:59:42.:59:43.

of apprenticeships will mean that apprentices get the skills

:59:44.:59:47.

businesses are looking for? Can he confirm that the employers involved

:59:48.:59:51.

from a broad range of different sectors so that all the different

:59:52.:59:56.

requirements are met? My honourable friend is absolutely right. It is

:59:57.:00:00.

extremely important that while we do want employees to be in charge of

:00:01.:00:03.

developing the standards so that they are directly relevant to

:00:04.:00:07.

current occupations, it is also important that it isn't just the

:00:08.:00:10.

larger employers who have HR departments and senior managers who

:00:11.:00:16.

can go to meetings to help develop those standards. We do insist that

:00:17.:00:20.

every standard before it is approved has demonstrated that it has the

:00:21.:00:25.

support of small and medium-sized employers in the industry. I welcome

:00:26.:00:33.

the fact that the minister has indicated that he meets his

:00:34.:00:36.

colleagues in the devolved administrations on a six monthly

:00:37.:00:41.

basis. Could he provide us with an estimate of what the likely amount

:00:42.:00:47.

of money is that would be allocated to the Northern Ireland Executive on

:00:48.:00:50.

a proportionate basis as a result of the increase in the apprenticeship

:00:51.:00:56.

levy? The honourable lady is tempting me towards the edge of the

:00:57.:01:02.

abyss! I can point out to her because it is a matter of public

:01:03.:01:06.

record that the apprenticeship levy is due to raise 3,000,000,020 19-20,

:01:07.:01:12.

and 2.5 billion will be spent on English apprenticeships, and the

:01:13.:01:18.

rest will go to the devolved administrations. How it divides up,

:01:19.:01:23.

I cannot tell her, but the Chancellor will have more to say on

:01:24.:01:29.

this soon. I wholeheartedly support the Government's promotion of

:01:30.:01:33.

apprenticeships and I have been in discussion with many local

:01:34.:01:36.

businesses and colleges about the opportunities for young people and

:01:37.:01:40.

while many businesses do get it, like the accountancy firms in the

:01:41.:01:44.

region, many don't. There is a lack of understanding and I am going to

:01:45.:01:47.

hold an event to that purpose to which I would really like to invite

:01:48.:01:52.

the evangelical minister to come to spread his passion to help the

:01:53.:01:57.

economy. Madam Deputy Speaker, I would be delighted to come. I am

:01:58.:02:01.

going this afternoon to Keighley to attend tomorrow morning and

:02:02.:02:05.

equivalent event organised by our honourable friend for that

:02:06.:02:07.

constituency and I would be delighted to return to the West

:02:08.:02:15.

Country where I am from. As part of my apprenticeship as an MP I have

:02:16.:02:19.

discovered that fell mongers deals in Scoones. Is that right? OK, onto

:02:20.:02:29.

the serious stuff. The minister said that the decision to take on an

:02:30.:02:33.

apprenticeship was a way of avoiding large student loans. Given that it

:02:34.:02:37.

was his Government that imposed these loans, wouldn't another way of

:02:38.:02:42.

helping young people avoid them beat to rethink replacing student

:02:43.:02:45.

maintenance grants with loans or will he accused me of shroud waving?

:02:46.:02:53.

Now that I know what TfL manga is, I hope and trust that my honourable

:02:54.:02:57.

friend the member for Richmond will be able to procure a sheepskin coat

:02:58.:03:01.

for me when I come and visit his local fell mongers. To answer the

:03:02.:03:08.

question, we want young people to have a choice between taking a

:03:09.:03:12.

full-time university course, understanding that they will have to

:03:13.:03:15.

fund that through student loans which they only have to pay back if

:03:16.:03:23.

they earn over ?21,000, but getting all the University experience and

:03:24.:03:26.

infringement that comes from that. We want to place no cap on a number

:03:27.:03:30.

of people that decide to go down that route. We also want there to be

:03:31.:03:35.

another route for those people who find that they learn better by

:03:36.:03:39.

combining study and work, who want to earn a wage and don't want

:03:40.:03:43.

particularly to have that full-time university experience. It is not

:03:44.:03:47.

about telling people what to do, it is about offering them a choice. I

:03:48.:03:55.

also welcome the progress made in apprenticeships today and the

:03:56.:03:57.

overall positive tone across the parties in support of them. The

:03:58.:04:01.

minister mentioned broadening out apprenticeships and I wonder what

:04:02.:04:05.

progress is being made in encouraging apprenticeships and

:04:06.:04:10.

highly seasonal industries like farming and tourism. I am grateful

:04:11.:04:13.

to my honourable friend for that question not least because I have

:04:14.:04:18.

been working with him and others on the possible establishment of a

:04:19.:04:22.

pilot. With our minimum requirement that an apprenticeship at last 12

:04:23.:04:27.

months, it does some problems for seasonal businesses who could employ

:04:28.:04:30.

people for six or nine months but not for a continuous period of 12

:04:31.:04:35.

months. With the tourism industry, which my honourable friend is

:04:36.:04:39.

particularly interested in, we are looking to establish a pilot whereby

:04:40.:04:43.

an apprenticeship can be set up by the apprentices employed 412 out of

:04:44.:04:48.

a period of 15 months and hopefully that would encourage more. -- the

:04:49.:04:57.

apprentice is employed for 12 out of 15 months. The Titanic project in

:04:58.:05:07.

Belfast took place nine years ago and apprenticeships were novel, but

:05:08.:05:10.

it became quickly clear that while the developer was happy to satisfy

:05:11.:05:14.

the required number of apprentices, they did nothing to sustain them, so

:05:15.:05:17.

when they became less inclined to remain as apprentice or they fell

:05:18.:05:22.

away, the numbers were not refilled, so the end outcome was the

:05:23.:05:27.

apprenticeships were not completed as promised. How do we make sure

:05:28.:05:30.

that while the apprenticeship must last 12 months, that those that

:05:31.:05:33.

enter the system must go through and complete the system? The honourable

:05:34.:05:38.

gentleman raises an important concern. The truth is that in most

:05:39.:05:44.

industries, not all but in most, they are all telling us that they

:05:45.:05:50.

have a huge skills need, though it is relatively unlikely that unless

:05:51.:05:53.

an employer lost a big contract or did not find a new contract to

:05:54.:05:58.

replace one that came to an end, it is relatively unlikely that they

:05:59.:06:01.

would want to lose an apprentice in whom they had invested quite a lot

:06:02.:06:06.

of the training. Most apprentices don't reach their maximum

:06:07.:06:10.

productivity until after they have completed the apprenticeship. I am

:06:11.:06:14.

hopeful that those employers, particularly those paying the levy

:06:15.:06:18.

every year, will want to create apprenticeships and invest in them

:06:19.:06:20.

because they will want to use those skills for the long-term. Bristol

:06:21.:06:28.

South sends the least number of young people to university in the

:06:29.:06:31.

country, so I see apprenticeships very much as the key to aspiration

:06:32.:06:36.

and I share the evangelicalism. On his way back to the West Country, if

:06:37.:06:39.

he wants to stop off in Bristol South via Taunton he would be

:06:40.:06:43.

welcome to see the work we are doing. Yesterday I asked the Prime

:06:44.:06:47.

Minister about whether his delivery plan, in fact if he had a delivery

:06:48.:06:51.

plan or whether he was making up the policy as he went along, as some

:06:52.:07:02.

have described the delivery policy as iterative and agile. We still

:07:03.:07:05.

await the details of the levy, how target will work in practice and how

:07:06.:07:07.

colleges and other providers will be supported to do the important work

:07:08.:07:10.

they need to do. Genuinely wishing to speak with one voice on this

:07:11.:07:13.

subject across the House, can he tell us more about when the delivery

:07:14.:07:19.

plan will be forthcoming? Madam Deputy Speaker, she is right. We do

:07:20.:07:23.

have a lot of questions that we need to answer because we are making some

:07:24.:07:27.

very substantial interventions in policy to try and make sure that we

:07:28.:07:32.

meet our target both of numbers and quality. If I can put it like this,

:07:33.:07:39.

those questions, if they have not been answered fulsomely in the month

:07:40.:07:42.

of April then I will be severely disappointed. The Government is

:07:43.:07:49.

doing fantastic work in promoting apprenticeships and the minister in

:07:50.:07:52.

particular has been very supportive in my constituency having visited

:07:53.:07:56.

apprenticeship providers in my area. He is welcome to come back again. I

:07:57.:08:00.

am facilitating a meeting with local businesses to set up an ambitious

:08:01.:08:04.

target of 50 new apprenticeships in 50 days. Apprenticeships are

:08:05.:08:07.

fantastic opportunity for young people to earn while they learn and

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making it far more likely for them to secure future climate. Will the

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ministers put me in this ambitious plan to get young people

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locally into good apprenticeships? I want to congratulate my honourable

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friend for everything this clause and setting herself and her local

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businesses the target of creating 15 new apprenticeships in 50 days. I

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know it will be of vast benefit to the people of her constituency. I am

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probably fairly unusual in being a former apprentice myself. I am now a

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current apprentice along with my new colleagues. I welcome the

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Government's commitment to another 3 million apprenticeships in this

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Parliament in addition to the 2 million in the last Parliament.

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Businesses in my constituency are doing their bit. Would the minister

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join me in congratulating and banking some of those businesses

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that are today creating opportunities for my constituents

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such as red roofs and this rate, rose Garth nursery and Crest

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Nicholson? How could be delighted to do that, Madam Deputy Speaker, and

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it gives me the opportunity to point out that we have a house-builder in

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that list. So we have architecture, bricklaying, childcare, and a whole

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range of industries, so apprenticeships really are the

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solution to every skills need. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. And then

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there was one. I greatly welcomed the statement from the minister this

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morning ahead of National Apprentice Week. Would you agree it is vital to

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encourage the participation of young women in traditionally male focused

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apprenticeships and join me in commending the 800 employers already

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working with easterly college, which he has visited, in my constituency,

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where I will be this evening? They are employing talented young women

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like Maisie who visited Parliament this week and currently undertaking

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an advanced apprenticeship in construction and the built

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environment. That is a great note to end on, a young woman who has

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decided that the opportunities for her future career lie in the

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construction industry and in an advanced set of skills. Last week I

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visited juice and Babcock and they introduced me to two young

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apprentices who were apprentice riggers, moving unbelievably heavy

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pieces of equipment for power plants, and both young women were

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absolutely delighted by what they were doing. I thank the minister for

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his evangelical statement. The clerk will now proceed to read the orders

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of the day. Northern Ireland, Stormont agreement and

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implementation plan bill, committee. Order. Northern Ireland, Stormont

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agreement and implementation plan bill. We begin with amendment one,

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with which it will be convenient to consider amendments seven and other

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clauses and amendments listed on the selection paper. Tom Elliot to move

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amendment one. Thank you, Mr Chairman. I move amendment one in

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the first group. Obviously this is around the independent reporting

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commission on paramilitary functionality. -- paramilitary

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activity within Northern Ireland and reporting back on it. Hopefully that

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report will see a move away from terrorist activity within Northern

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Ireland. We have made a huge progress in the

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last few years, but we want to see a total end to that campaign of

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paramilitary activity. You only have to look at the more recent and

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distant past to realise some of the murders that have taken place. I

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know we have heard of loyalist paramilitary activity, loyalist

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killings. The honourable member for North Down has made many

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representations about the disappearance of Lisa, and what

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impact it had on the family and the community. In recent times, we have

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seen IRA murders, we have looked to the murders of Robert McCartney,

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Denis Donaldson, Paul Quinn and Kevin McGuigan in Belfast. What

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strikes me is the brutality and the clinical way these murders were

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carried out. The hallmark of the IRA of the past. We have seen is the

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these murders are not carried out by amateurs, they are carried out by

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professional terrorists. In the way they have gone about that. It

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reminds us of the IRA and terrorist organisations of the past. The

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Police Service of Northern Ireland has said in recent times that the

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IRA and the Army council still exist. We need to deal with that,

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and asked the question if that army council is still inextricably linked

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to Sinn Fein, who are in government in Northern Ireland. What we have

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sought in this amendment one is the appointment of the two members

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proposed to be appointed by the First Minister and typically First

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Minister for the Independent reporting commission. I do accept

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that within the document it says the executive will appoint those two

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members. What we are seeking is a mechanism to move away from

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political appointments. We feel it would be helpful to be carried out

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by a more independent body. In the progress of the

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