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To ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer if you will make a

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statement on changes to the budget? Mr Speaker, immediately after this

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urgent question, the prime minister will make a statement, following a

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Secretary of State for work and agents will sit out a government

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position on payments and developer gap. For the rest of the date the

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debates on the budget will continue, and tomorrow we will continue with

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the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The house will have three opportunities

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to discuss these issues before tomorrow. I am grateful for the

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opportunity to talk about how this government, through our long-term

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economic plan, is creating growth, generating employment, cutting the

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deficit, and securing long-term prosperity for the people of this

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country. The budget delivered last week by my right honourable friend

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the Chancellor of the Exchequer said how we are taking more people out of

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income tax, supporting small businesses, encouraging investment,

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tackling tax avoidance, helping young people safe, and investing in

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our education system, all while restoring the public finances. That

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is what the British people voted for last May, and that is what we are

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delivering. Thank you for granting this urgent question. I asked

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because the budget process is an absolute chaos. It is unprecedented

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for a government to withdraw a large part of its budget and except to

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oppositional amends before they even reach the third day. I have to say

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that we are little wiser from what we have heard from the check

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secretary today. I have some of for the honourable gentleman who yet

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again set out to defend the indefensible while the Chancellor

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insults this house by refusing to attend. This whole debacle started

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two weeks ago when the government announced cuts of up to hundred

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pounds a week to disabled people. Last week we discovered that these

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cuts to disabled people had been forced through by the Chancellor to

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pay for cuts in capital gains taxes for the buggiest 5% in our society.

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And cuts and corporation tax. I agree with the pension secretary

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that these are not defensible when placed in a budget that benefits

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irons. Can ask the question, how can the Chancellor suggest that we are

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all in this together when the ISS confirmed today that households that

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are the poorest with children are hit the hardest? Over 600,000

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disabled people and their family have been caused considerable

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distress, and they need the reassurance that their benefits are

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safe. The money required from the DWP still sit in the Redbook. Can

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ask the chief Secretary, can he tell us which other vulnerable groups the

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Chancellor is considering targeting for cuts? If the Chancellor holds

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the attacks on disabled people, a ?4.4 billion black hole is created

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in the budget. Added to this the billions of unidentified cuts, taxes

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on solar, we have one today. An enormous hole has appeared in the

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budget, and isn't the best thing to do withdraw the budget and start

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again? This is no way to deliver a budget, and no way to manage an

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economy. First of all, then I think the shadow chancellor for promoting

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me to chief Secretary of the Treasury. Secondly, to make the

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point that in terms of disability benefits, there is no question of

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this government cutting disability benefits back to the level we

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inherited in 2010. Spending has gone up by it ?3 billion in real terms on

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disability benefits. Thirdly, is the shadow Chancellor really wanting to

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talk about fiscal black holes? Mr Speaker, last week the Chancellor of

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the Exchequer reported on an economy set to grow faster than any other

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major advanced economy in the world. Wages are up, the deficit is cut by

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almost two thirds, there are a thousand people in work almost every

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single day, our plan is delivering for Britain. It is a plan that

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continues recovery, it will take us into a surplus, it backs British

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businesses I'm a protect jobs in difficult economic times, a budget

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that helps more people buy their first home or save for their

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retirement, a budget that builds our young people skills to invest in

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generation. It helps close the gap between the rich and poor, between

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North and South, because we believe in helping people succeed wherever

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they come from. Since 2010, inequality is down, child poverty is

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down, pension property is down, the gender pay that gap is smaller than

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ever -- when the Minister is addressing the house, he is entitled

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to be heard. He is raising his voice, but it should be no

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requirement to do so. Experience shows that all sides of the argument

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will be heard. Members need have no worry on that score. The Minister in

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the first instance must be heard. Minister. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The

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richest 1% are paying a greater proportion of income tax than in any

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other year in the Labour government. This is the government introduced

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the national living wage, the government that increased personal

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allowance so that in a year a taxpayer will pay over ?1000 less in

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tax than they were in 2010. This is the government that is helping to

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generate record numbers of jobs on the helping young people get on the

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property ladder, increasing spending on health and education and

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disability benefits. Protecting pensions, helping people achieve

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their aspirations at every stage of their lives, delivering for Britain,

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creating economic security with jobs and growth. This is the record of

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this government, that is the record of the Chancellor of the Exchequer,

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and it is a record two to be proud of. Would might friend the financial

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Secretary agree with me that the first duty of the Chancellor and his

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Treasury team, when preparing a budget, is to watch the medium-term

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national interests and provide sound finances for the benefit of our

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businesses, investments, and our appointment. If we turn to a

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situation where chancellors are expected to produce on every

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occasion populace spending commitments, popular tax cuts, and a

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failure to control an out-of-control budget, we are going to go to the

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sort of economic performance achieved by the recent governments

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of Greece, Italy, or the United Kingdom under Gordon Brown. I agree,

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and it is by taking that long-term approach that we are taking it now

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so that we can secure prosperity and economic security for the British

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people. We will shortly have a statement from the AWP which, if

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rumours are correct, will announce a substantial change to the budget

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announcements from last week. It is likely to amount to substantial

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extra borrowing, extra taxes, or potentially, the charting of the

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fiscal charter rules. This is a substantial change like the budget

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last week. Surely, it would require a supplementary, corrective budget?

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Can ask the Minister has the Chancellor penciled in a date for a

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summit? As he says, we have a statement from the Secretary of

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State for Work and Pensions, and would have two days of budget

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debates. And I make the point that in terms of changes to the fiscal

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position, I think that we should look at the consequences for

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Scotland if it had been independent? On the 9th of December, the

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government issued a document announcing an increase in VAT on

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energy saving materials from five to 20% to raise 65 million in the first

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full year. Then I welcome the government's decision not to go

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ahead with that proposal, and how are they going to deal with the fact

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that the European Court and European laws require us to impose this

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unpopular tax? The decision was taken some weeks ago not to proceed

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in this finance built with any changes to VAT on energy-saving

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materials, because new material has emerged that we do not need to go

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ahead with what was suggested. The prime minister will say something

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about this later, it has been suggested, because the European

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commission agreed to the arguments that we have made about greater

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flexibility on VAT rates, that we do not believe that these changes will

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be necessary. Five days ago, the Chancellor stood at the dispatch

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box, published the budget's scorecard with a ?4.4 billion cut to

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PIP. Where is the revised scorecard without it? Is it true that this cut

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will instead come from elsewhere in the DWP budget? And if the

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Chancellor is too scared to answer questions in this House on the

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issue, he is not fit to do the job. The Chancellor will be debating the

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finance Bill, the budget resolutions tomorrow evening. He will be the

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first Chancellor of the Exchequer to have done so since my friend the

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member rock live. Gordon Brown never once participated on debates in the

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budget apart from his initial speech. In terms of the public

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finances, as far as they're concerned in terms of compliance

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with the welfare gap, we will set that out at the Autumn Statement.

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Let's be absolutely clear. For the party opposite to be upset about the

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public finances, they shouldn't listen to what they have been saying

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for the last six years. My honourable friend will know that the

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armed Forces are, sadly, not immune from members suffering from mental

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health problems, and some of them take their own lives. May I thank

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him and my right honourable friend the Chancellor, as a member of the

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advisory board for Samaritans, for the three and half billion pounds

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that they have given to assist military personnel who are suffering

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in that way. I'm very grateful to my right honourable friend for

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highlighting that point. There is a serious problem with the votes that

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we have two make a decision on the budget tomorrow. How will we make

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the judgement when the page in the Redbook has been ripped up and

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changed, and we are none the wiser about the contents of that? He has

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just got to answer one question, on a scale of 1-10, how embarrassed if

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he today? I would be a little embarrassed if I was the honourable

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member for not being aware that there are no votes tomorrow on the

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personal independent payments. The role of the budget is surely to

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promote growth and promote employment. Has he noticed that

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small business rate relief measures have been widely welcomed, and as

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growth we need and targets unemployment across all status of

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people? He is right, and there has been support for the contents of

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this budget and small businesses. This government-backed small

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businesses to ensure growth and implement opportunities that the

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British people need top green I regret the chaos that one attends to

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get with unstable -- the Chancellor's budget

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leave the richest 10% of people to hundred and ?60 better off, and

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until that was found out, that was going to be paid for by punishing

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the disabled. Doesn't this conjuring show that his choices are driven by

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cynical politics and not economic necessity? So this charter, should

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therefore be scrapped? Let me point out to the house at 28% of income

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tax was paid by 1% of taxpayers in 2013 to 2014. The fact is that under

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the policies that we have, the 20% wealthiest will be paying more tax

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revenues. That would not have happened if we stuck with the tax

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system we had in 2010. Would the Minister agree with me that what the

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British people want, what they voted for ten months ago was a government

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which was encouraging growth, creating employment unseen for

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years, and still focuses on investment in health services and

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investment in medical health, and other issues that make this a

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compassionate, conservative government? My honourable friend

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puts it extremely well. Last maybe British people endorse our long-term

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economic planning, and you have to stick to it. I as the financial

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Secretary has said, he cut in business rates has been welcomed by

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the small business community. In oral questions an hour ago,

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ministers said that local authorities would be completely

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compensated for this reduction. There is no sign of that in the

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Redbook. Isn't this another 1.7 billing black hole? No, it isn't.

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Local authorities will be compensated. I very much support the

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Chancellor and wanting to live within our means and trying to be

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the budget to balance as quickly as possible. In my normal spirit of

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helpfulness, can I suggest that the problem that we have at the moment

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is that there are too many government departments with the same

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departments having to face cut year after year, and it is time to end

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this ludicrous policy? Although I appreciate the spirit of

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helpfulness, I am afraid that I don't agree with him. It was a

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manifesto commitment by our party that we would fulfil our target. It

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was once said that a week is a long time in politics. How long is a

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long-term economic plan? Three days? Four days? Five days? Let's be

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clear, this is a government that has turned the economy around, that has

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delivered this country from -- into the fastest growing economy in 2014,

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is forecast to be the fastest growing again, we have record

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unemployment, and that is what this government is delivering and we will

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continue to deliver it. With the financial Secretary confirm that

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spending on disability payments has increased by ?2 billion over the

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last five years, and will increase by millions more over the coming

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five years? Actually, it is slightly more than that of the last five

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years. The reality is that disability spending has risen

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significantly under this government, even though we inherited the largest

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deficit in our peacetime history. Today's urgent question isn't just

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about the budget documentation or the EU referendum, nor who will be

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the next leader of the Tory party, by the hundreds of thousands of

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disabled people across this country and their fate. Will the Minister

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take the opportunity to apologise to all of the disabled people across

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the country will be left in turmoil over the past few days in relation

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to the support, if any, that there would be for this government, and

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what would the future plans before them? We have increased spending on

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the disabled. My right honourable friend the Secretary of State for

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Work and Pensions will be making a statement on government policy in

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this area surely this afternoon. You frequently remind us, Mr Speaker,

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about people listening and watching at home. On the second day of the

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budget debate, the shadow Chancellor pledged that if the government would

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look again at the plant, they would not play politics. Would my right

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honourable friend agree with me that this is too serious of an issue to

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play politics with? I think my honourable friend has had a point.

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We have had assurances about not playing politics once or twice

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before from the shadow Chancellor. I'm not sure she has always

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delivered on that. Last week's budget makes the 2012 budget of like

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a model of good policymaking. Is the Redbook is still the basis for the

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budget, and if it is with the ?4.4 billion cut to disability benefits

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still stand? Of the plans we have set out, by the end of this

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Parliament we will deliver a budget surplus that would have never

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happened if we had followed the plans of the party opposite. 600,000

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small businesses will benefit from the rate relief cut. With the chief

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secretary continue to support those small businesses -- the financial

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Secretary, who generate the jobs for people who want to work, and

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generate text for the people who can't? I can give that assurance.

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This government is on the side of businesses that create the growth

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and jobs that that we need. The biggest threat to recovery is the

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anti-business approach that we see from the party opposite. One of the

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most disregarded mysteries of the budget is the announcement of a

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growth field that seems to exist in name only. With the Mr Eleni house

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to its details? We will be engaging with the Welsh Government and local

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authorities on this point. The future for the Welsh economy will be

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best pursued by electing a conservative government indwells as

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well as any United Kingdom. Will he agreed that it is anchored to the

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steadfast stewardship of the Chancellor of the Treasury team that

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this year we have been able to introduce a budget that has

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supported small businesses, supported the motorist, supported

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local brewers and the public industry, and is continuing policies

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that support business and creates jobs. It is only state -- steadfast

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commitment that delivers that. This is a government and this is a

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Chancellor of the X check with drives the economy. We are in

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position to run more strongly -- grow more slowly than our

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competitors, especially given that we inherited the mess that we

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inherited. The Chancellor made no effort to justify the cut in

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disability benefits beyond saying that they would save a lot of money.

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Yesterday we heard from the former DWP Secretary that the Chancellor's

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view that people with disabilities will never vote Tory. Will he

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respond to that? Act wasn't even at the -- that wasn't even the

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allegation, but if we look at the facts, independent payments have

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gone up by ?3 billion. That is not a government that is cutting at the

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expense of disabled people. In the Minister confirm that as well as

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continuing to take many of my constituents from paying income tax

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as well as shifting the burden of taxes from small to larger

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businesses, this government remains committed to shortening the

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disability gap -- income inequality gap? I pointed out earlier that the

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Secretary of State for wealth and pensions will be addressing this

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point later this afternoon. Last Wednesday, the Chancellor announced

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that this was a budget for the next generation. Which member of the next

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generation will succeed the Chancellor? Is that really the best

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the honourable member can do? Does my honourable friend agree with me

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that the best way of reducing the welfare bill is to create more jobs,

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and to give people the opportunity of the dignity of earning their own

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living rather than being stuck for life on benefits? He is right, and

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that is why we should all be delighted in this house that we have

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record number of people in work. As of last Wednesday, this Chancellor

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had delivered five budgets in 15 months. That is one every three

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months. Will you try to improve on that record, and give us one every

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week? I feel the quality of the questions might be deteriorating.

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The answer is no. I'm sure the Minister will share the urgent

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question is laying off the debate on a budget. Will he assure me that

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looking at budgets will be more concerned with thoughts on a

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long-term economic policy than on Chairman Mao? I am delighted that

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the quality of questions have improved, he is right.

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A simple question, when will the budget schedule be published? We

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have a debate on the budget today, and tomorrow. The Chancellor will be

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responding to the debate tomorrow. In terms of any future changes of

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the physical evidence, there will be an understatement in the autumn.

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Will my honourable friend confirm that the budget, the many positive

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things in the budget including the small business rates and the tax

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threshold changes that take a lot of people who should never have been

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caught up in a tax threshold will go ahead as planned? Yes, I can confirm

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that. The change to small business rate relief will help hundreds of

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thousands of businesses, small businesses in particular. We are

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delivering on the pledge in the conservative party manifesto about

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increasing the threshold to ?50,000. This budget take it to 40,000, but

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we are also raising the personal allowance, and it is the case that

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the typical taxpayer is now paying over a thousand times less income

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tax as a consequence of the changes that we have put in. The Minister

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talked about debt, and our record. The last government borrowed more in

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five years in the Labour government did and 30. Then I asked, the

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members opposite are clamoring for a change about the PIP payments. If

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that is the case, why not reverse another measure that hits the

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disabled, the better attacks? -- bedroom tax? We debated earlier with

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the party opposite measures to reduce spending. They argued that we

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should borrow more, presumably from what the honourable member has just

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said in order to borrow less. If that is the position of the shadow

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shadow chancellor, it is not much of an improvement from the chatter

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Chancellor. In terms of the Spirit room with subsidy, it is right that

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we try to find savings within the welfare budget, and the subsidy is a

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part of that. before I became an member of

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Parliament are was a goodly part of this country. What my Honorable

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friend agree with me that we have cut back on the red tape and put

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more money into the self-employed is more than what the last part of dead

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and 13 years. I was a self-employed person so I can stick with Doherty

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on that. My Honorable friend brings much expertise this issue, I know

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that he is very pleased, one of the things that we were able to do was

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to finally remove class to national insurance contributions and

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management of burden. I'm pleased he could remove it. Mr Speaker, can I

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reflect the shock and sadness and my own constituency, of the loss of

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life of a family, last night, can I ask of the financial Secretary how

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can he continue to talk about a long-term economic plan when he is

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describing what our increasingly tough about budget and when will

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deed government finally move and stop using it as a search engines

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for benefit costs? Can I associate myself with his own and perhaps

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through him express the condolences throughout the house to the family

:32:14.:32:16.

that suffered so grievously last night. In terms of the government of

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throats, we do believe that it isn't interest of the whole of the country

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that the public finances on a sound footing. Reducing the deficit from a

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record level to surplus, is a significant challenge but it is one

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that we have to meet as a country and we have to be willing to take

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difficult decisions that it involves. That is what the

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government was elected to do in 2010 and that is what we were reelected

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to do in 2015 and it is what what we will do. -- and no change in the

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budget commitment to tackle homelessness with a record boost of

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some hundred 50 million on top of the protection of the homeless

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division grant from cells of the government has credentials and

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protecting the vulnerable. My Honorable friend is right to

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highlight that measure that was announced last week, this is a

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government that is taking the issue of homelessness seriously and it is

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an important set of policies that was announced last week. Given that

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the Chancellor has the warning is all about the global cocktail of

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risk that we learn from the but the statement that our growth forecast

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is down as is our productivity which I think it is fast reaching, what

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possible justification can the Minister offer given all of the

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changes that have been made to the budget for retaining the substantial

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clubs to capital gains tax which disproportionately benefits the

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better off. We do not need it at this point. One of the importance

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jobs that we do phase is improving productivity in this country. If we

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want to do that, we want more investment. If we want more

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investment would don't want high rates of tax that discourage

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investment and cannot point out in terms of capital gain tax, the rate

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is still higher than the one that we in 2010. Last week I met two

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vigilance is fast constituents, one was unemployed and he has now have a

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job. Another has disabilities and has told with a vessels agency. Both

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of them have gone jobs. They have benefited hugely from the

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conservatism which... Well my Honorable friend confirmed that this

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will continue and that people like Mark and Luke will be held going for

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it? I'm very grateful to my Honorable friend, he puts it well

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and I am grateful for highlighting those examples, there is something

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compassionate about having a society where there are a lot of jobs. I'm

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pleased at the government we are delivering that time of economy. And

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the chances speech last week he referred the ?20 million being given

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and the southwest of England and when he said that he said that this

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is proof that won the Southwest goes blue their voices are heard loudly.

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This is all about the personal interests of that. Denied remind the

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Honorable gentleman that there have been a number of city deals done

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with authorities in the northeast of England, and, the truth is that

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employment records, it is the case, employment records in the northeast

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of England is extremely strong. There are many welcome measures for

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my constituents. More the Minister comments on that and have a

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government who listens when it is compared to Gordon Brown and his

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refusal to reconsider the tax rate. My Honorable friend does remind me

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of 2007 and 2008. There is a distinction between the two

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governments whereas Gordon Brown doubled its tax rate on the lower

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orders, we have a abolished tax for low honours. Thank you Mr Speaker,

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for billion seems to have fallen out of the buses, can he confirm that

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and when is the chance of going to get it and where is he finding the

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money? I would say to the honour wasn't summoned, as he is worried

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about black holes of the public finances he should have a word with

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his own front bench. Does my right honourable friend agree that the

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governments track record and tackling unemployment demonstrates

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the commitment not just the enterprise but to improving chances

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as well in life? The truth is that the government has taken steps to

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improve the last chances of the British people, but it also helps in

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the long term the chance of the British people to have public

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finances under control. The Honorable Silverman agrees with the

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ombudsman that the cuts to disabled people... ... Let's be clear about

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the record of this government. Let's be clear, let's put it in context of

:37:58.:38:03.

what this government has done as a consequence of the policy changes

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that we have pursued, and will not be the case that the highest earning

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20% will pay more than half of all taxes, that would not have had have

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been if we started with the policies we inherited. The financial

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secretary will notice today that the discipline has not lasted long. Mr

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Speaker. They have spent more money. The transfer from ?2 million to

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start the new Children's Hospital in Southampton was so greatly benefit

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thousands of young people across the South. It has nothing to do with the

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body politic that we are seeing in the chamber this afternoon. I'm

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grateful to my Honorable friend. I would make this point that we can

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only afford to take steps like that including properly funding our NHS

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because we have a strong economy. A sound economy that is then delivered

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by the government and by the Chancellor of the six years. Wheel

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distances agree that we must control the debt. It should not be done on

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the backs of the book. There are three that have been cut that will

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come in 2019 and 2020. Corporation tax cuts, capital gains tax cut,

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trekking tax, that he will he believed that we are all in this

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together? I am pleased to hear that the ombudsman believes that we have

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to get deficit and debt under control. But he will be aware that

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an independent... Given what has happened will face the biggest

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deficit and the rest of the world. Can the Minister confirmed what the

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top right of income tax is today, with the tax rate for an the Labour

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government and how many basic rate taxpayers have been taken out of

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paying income tax altogether under the Conservatives? 45, 40, and about

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for Emily and I think LAUGHTER. -- 4 million. Does the Minister agree

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that it would of taken brokerage for the Chancellor to come here today

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and that in a failing to show that courage, he has shown that he is not

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fit in the future to leave the party. But it is the value of

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courage, not just that failure but it is a discrepancy to the house

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which renders us and capable of properly examining the budget

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because we don't know how the Chancellor isn't upholding to meet

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his fiscal targets. With the greatest respect to the ombudsman, I

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think that is pompous nonsense. -- honourable gentleman. We will be

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responsible for bait, the first time the Chancellor has done that in the

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1990s. Thank you very much, the best ways to improve the lives chances of

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those were able-bodied or disabled is to invest in education. Does the

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Honorable member agreed that the 1.6 billion investment in the budget

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will help the next generation get the best start in life? This was an

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excellent present for an education, it was an excellent budget for the

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next iteration, if we are going to have the prosperity and economic

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security that this country once we are going to have a world class

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education system, that's what the government as in the process of

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delivering. Is it fair to make for billion worth of cuts to disabled

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people to personal and independent payments when they are twice as

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likely to live in poverty? At the same time, giving tax breaks and

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Corporation and capital gains tax? There will be a statement on

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personal independence payments either on this afternoon. The point

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I would make to the Honorable Lady is that over the course of the last

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six years we have seen a significant increase in real terms in terms of

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vending on DLA and... We also need to ensure that we have a productive

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economy credit wealth in different plays an eye makes no apologies for

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us wanted to have a competitive system. One of the notable points of

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this budget was that self-employed people got some help, and these can

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often be the unsung hero of our community. They have been playing

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such an important part in local business. Does the Minister agree

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that by helping them, this government is just a missed

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demonstrating and understands what is making the economy worked and

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what won't benefit so many people. My little friend is right, this is a

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government that is backing before millions self-employed people that

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we have in this country. We are on the side of those who are going out

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and taking risk and working for themselves and pretty well for the

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British people. -- create things. Where is the Chancellor and why is

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he not here to apologise and how would the full .4 billion black hole

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be filled? -- 4.4 billion. This Chancellor has worked tirelessly to

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turn the Bush economy around. He is continuing to do that. In terms of a

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black hole can I point out that every single day, we hear proposals

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from the party opposite, either to oppose some spending item, or to cut

:44:05.:44:10.

some taxes, just borrowing, and barring more. Misses bigger this

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very welcome budget for Cardiff is delivering the Cardiff city deal.

:44:20.:44:27.

And in contrast to the government and Western democracy, businessmen

:44:28.:44:30.

and businesswomen welcome to business rate relief and it is an

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incredibly popular. When my right honourable Frank anchor as she

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labours of the government to follow our lead and empowering businessmen

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and women? I think if the Welsh assembly Government is going to

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follow our lead it needs to change is position and it has operatives to

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do that and a few weeks' time. Order! ! Statement, the Prime

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Minister. Thank you Mr Speaker, what permission I would like to make a

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statement on last weeks European Council was focus on the migration

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prices affecting continental Europe. The biggest single cause has been

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the war in Syria. We have seen huge growth in people coming to Southern

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Europe from Afghanistan, Pakistan, and North Africa. Offices located by

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the rapid growth of criminal networks of people smugglers. There

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are over 8000 migrants fill arriving in Greece every week. So far, 10,000

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have come this year. Of course, because the vice puzzles that is in

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the European Union. Britain is not part of the Schengen open border

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arrangements and we will not be joining. People cannot travel

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through Greece or Italy, on what to constantly Europe and into Britain.

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That will not change. It is in our national interest to help our

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European partners deal effectively with this enormous and destabilising

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shamans. We have argued for a consistent and clear approach for

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from the start, and in the conflict in Syria, supporting the refugees in

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the region, and securing Europe's borders. Taking refugees directly

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from the camps and the neighbouring countries but not from Europe.

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Cracking down on people smuggling, this

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approach of this plan, the council agreed to stop migrants leaving

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Turkey in the first place. To intercept those who do Levi the RNC

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turning back their boats, and return back to Turkey does that make it to

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Greece. There can be no guarantee of the success but if the plan is

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properly and fully implemented it will be the best chance to make a

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difference. For the first time we have a plan that breaks the business

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model of the people smugglers, by breaking the link between getting in

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a boat and getting settlement in Europe. Mr Speaker, I want to be

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clear about what Britain is doing and what we are not doing as a

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result of this plan. What we are doing is contributing our expertise

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and our skilled officials to help with a large-scale operation. But

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asylum experts and interpreters already working and agrees to help

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them process individual cases. Britain stands more to support these

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efforts. Above all what is needed, is a detailed plan to implement this

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agreements and to ensure that all the offers of support are coming

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from around Europe are properly coordinated. Are sure of the

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additional money that will go to hell the refugees under those

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agreements will come from our existing budget. Let me be clear

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about what we are not doing, we want not give visa free access for Turks

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coming to the UK. Schengen countries are planning to give visa free

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access to text but because my not a part of Schengen were not banned by

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the decision. We met on the system which is to maintain our own

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borders. Second, the visa free access to Schengen countries will

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not need a back door route to Britain. Visa free access only means

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the right to visit, and does not mean a right to work or a right to

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settle. Just because friends of the citizens can enjoy visa free travel

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for Chavez to America does not mean that they can work that alone there.

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This is not the Turco citizens their rights in the EU. A number of theory

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and are in camps and Turkey will be presentable and Turkey will be

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presentable into the Schengen countries of the EU. Again, that is

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not applied to Britain. We have our resettlement programme and we are

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delivering on it. We promised 8000 resettled here before Christmas and

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that is what we were delivered. The other countries agreed to two

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schemes, one to relocate the people in the EU up by the time of last

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December council only 208 people had been relocated, and the second 200

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voluntary resettlement schemes from outside the EU, but by the end of

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last year, the 483 refugees have been resettled to out of the seven

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countries. We said we would do and we are doing it. Britain has given

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more money to support his and the countries hosting them than any

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other European country. Indeed, we are doing more than any other

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country in the world, other than the United States bending over ?1

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billion so far with another ?1.2 billion place we are fulfilling our

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moral responsibility of the nation. Turning to the central

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Mediterranean, the EU naval operation we established last summer

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has had some success was over 90 vessels destroyed and more than 50

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smugglers arrested. What is a splendid it is a government in Libya

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that we can work with. So that we can co-operate and turn back the

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bolts and stop the smugglers. There is a new prime minister and a

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government that we have recognise. These are early days but we must do

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what we can to make this work, that is why this Council I brought to the

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other leaders. Mr Speaker, turning to other matters I took the

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opportunity to deal with a lot issue of how to back the rate of sanitary

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products. We have had some EU ride rules in order to make the single

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market for it but the system has been far too flexible and has caused

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frustration. We said a change them as well be dead. The European

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commission will produce a proposal. This is an important breakthrough

:51:23.:51:25.

and dimming fabrics and will be able to have a zero rates and that it

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will be the end of the tampon fax. And on this basis, the government

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will be accepting both amendments on the finance Bill tomorrow night. My

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right honourable friend, the Member for it strengthened and brains but

:51:42.:51:45.

almost a decade for welfare reform and improving peoples lives chances,

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he has been the last six years implementing those policies and

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government. In that time we have seen nearly half a million fewer

:51:54.:51:57.

children living and households over a million flu or people aren't out

:51:58.:52:01.

of urban affairs and nearly two million more people and work, and in

:52:02.:52:06.

spite of having the take of the clothes on the deficit, child

:52:07.:52:10.

poverty, inequality all down. Am I right honourable friend contributed

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an enormous amount of the work of government and he can be proud of

:52:16.:52:19.

what he has achieved. Mr Speaker, let me say this, this government

:52:20.:52:24.

will continue to give the highest priority to improving the lives

:52:25.:52:27.

chances of the poorest in our country. We will continue to reform

:52:28.:52:32.

our schools, we will continue to find childcare and great job, he

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will carry on cutting taxes for the loan was paid, and the last

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parliament beats up for a million of the lowest pay people out of income

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tax altogether and I further rises will take many many more house as

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well. Combined with the zoo will go on with our plan to rebuild states

:52:49.:52:50.

and help those with mental health conditions.

:52:51.:53:03.

To extend our troubled families programme and to reform our prisons,

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and societal discrimination for those whose lives chances suffer,

:53:06.:53:07.

because of the colour of their skin. Mr Speaker, in two weeks' time, we

:53:08.:53:10.

will introduce the first ever national living wage giving a pay

:53:11.:53:14.

rise to the poorest people in our country. All of this is driven by a

:53:15.:53:18.

deeply held conviction that everyone in Britain should have the chance to

:53:19.:53:23.

make the most of their lives, and Mr Speaker let me add this, none of

:53:24.:53:27.

this would be possible if it was not for the actions of government the

:53:28.:53:32.

work of the Honorable friend the Chancellor and turning our economy

:53:33.:53:39.

around. We can only improve life chances if our economy is secure and

:53:40.:53:46.

strong. You end up having to raise taxes without finances and make

:53:47.:53:50.

deeper cuts and bending. You don't get more opposite to that way you

:53:51.:53:54.

get less. And we know that when that happens, and is working people that

:53:55.:53:59.

suffer as we saw and labours recession. We must continue to cut

:54:00.:54:04.

the deficit, control the cost of welfare and live with our means. We

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must not burden our children and grandchildren with debt that we do

:54:10.:54:12.

not have the courage to pay off ourselves. So securing our economy,

:54:13.:54:19.

extending opportunity, we will continue with this approach in full,

:54:20.:54:23.

because we are a modern and compassionate one nation

:54:24.:54:25.

conservative government and I commend the statements of the house

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by! Thank you Mr Speaker and I said that

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I would like to thank the prime minister for an advance copy of half

:54:41.:54:46.

of his statement. In I can deal with it in order, first of all Mr

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Speaker, the refugee crisis that Europe faces, at the present time is

:54:52.:54:57.

the largest since the end of the world -- Second World War. There are

:54:58.:55:04.

more misplaced people around the world than there have ever been.

:55:05.:55:08.

Thousands of people have died making perilous journeys across the

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Mediterranean and other places around the world, we have a duty as

:55:13.:55:17.

an advance democratic civilized nation to reach out, the hand of

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humanity, support, and friendship to people going to the most disastrous

:55:23.:55:28.

time of their lives. I think we should also recognise, that it has

:55:29.:55:34.

been a disproportionate burden placed on neighbouring countries, to

:55:35.:55:40.

Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon, they have accepted a number of refugees

:55:41.:55:45.

as has Turkey, and the European countries of Italy and Greece as

:55:46.:55:49.

boarder countries have done far more than anybody else and a Germany and

:55:50.:55:53.

Sweden have taken a very large number of asylum seekers. There has

:55:54.:55:57.

not been an imbalance response all across Europe. I would like to ask

:55:58.:56:03.

the Prime Minister if he had had a chance to read the statement made by

:56:04.:56:07.

Amnesty International at the weekend after the agreement was reached. And

:56:08.:56:12.

missed the normally noted for their very cautious view of words and very

:56:13.:56:16.

careful way and which they describe things. They are a overnight patient

:56:17.:56:21.

dedicated to human rights and the rule of law. I quote from the

:56:22.:56:27.

statement that they made, guarantees respect for international law are

:56:28.:56:31.

incompatible with the return to Turkey of all irregular migrants

:56:32.:56:35.

arriving on Greek Island as of Sunday, Turkey is not a state budget

:56:36.:56:40.

for refugees and migrants, and the return process for Dick did on it

:56:41.:56:45.

being sold will be flawed and illegal and it goes on to register

:56:46.:56:51.

for the conference. I asked the Prime Minister to respond very

:56:52.:56:54.

carefully to the points that are being put by Amnesty International.

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Will he also confirmed that priesthood and receive asylum

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seekers coming from Turkey, they will all be end interviewed and

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we'll all have access to interpreters, they will all have

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access to a right of a hearing and a right of appeal, even when they're

:57:17.:57:20.

in the done by officials that have come by other countries on behalf of

:57:21.:57:25.

the European Union. Secondly, those that will return to Turkey will also

:57:26.:57:31.

have similar rights in Turkey, and that they will in turn be properly

:57:32.:57:37.

treated because he must be very well aware of the deep concerns many

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people have of the recent events in Turkey, particularly the

:57:43.:57:45.

imprisonment of journalists who have attempted to stick out on a number

:57:46.:57:51.

of issues. Clearly, the issue of number of the people of people

:57:52.:57:54.

seeking asylum in Europe is heavily bound up with the wars that have

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taken place and indeed take place still. He referred to the need for a

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political settlement in the Syria and Libya. In that sense he is quite

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right, could he give us some information on progress that may

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have been made toward bringing about a political settlement in the area

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which will enable peoples were to return to their homes, will enable

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them to live safe and secure lives? Likewise, the situation and Libya is

:58:25.:58:28.

equally perilous for many people particularly those in unsecured

:58:29.:58:33.

refugee camps. He will be aware that many those who seek asylum in other

:58:34.:58:38.

countries make as I said perilous journeys, they also end up an

:58:39.:58:43.

refugee camps with very limited facilities, despite the great work

:58:44.:58:48.

by volunteers, I visited the camps and Calais and Dunkirk which are an

:58:49.:58:55.

appalling situation, and they are in a very prolific situation. They are

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all humans to whom we must reach out and hand of friendship of support. I

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recognise that the Buddhist government has paid a great deal of

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money through support of refugee camps and refugees around the world.

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I've recognise the work that the world Navy has done and plucking

:59:14.:59:17.

people from the seat in saving them from drowning in the ocean, I

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recognise those things, but, the Prime Minister still things to be

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seen in the next that and the narrative that printable only accept

:59:27.:59:31.

20,000 refugees over the next four years, and they will be brought from

:59:32.:59:35.

Camp in the region rather of the problems faced by many of those

:59:36.:59:40.

refugees who are travelling across Europe at the present time and stop.

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Can we not for once, please Prime Minister for want co-operate with

:59:47.:59:50.

every other European countries on providing aid European wide response

:59:51.:59:54.

to the crisis that is engulfing the lives of so many people rather than

:59:55.:00:00.

trying to avoid but I believe to be our responsibilities in this

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respect. Mr Speaker, when the Prime Minister gave me his advance copy of

:00:07.:00:15.

about half of the statement, he went on to talk about the sanitary

:00:16.:00:18.

products and some other issues and then delivered a much longer speech

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on many other things. Can I say first of all, I think the house

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should pay great tribute to my friend the Member for dues vary for

:00:27.:00:32.

the work that she has done in trying to eliminate this unfair tax. I

:00:33.:00:36.

think the Prime minister, he has come here today the Secretary of

:00:37.:00:44.

State for Work and Pensions this year, every other cabinet minister

:00:45.:00:47.

is here, what ever has happened to the Chancellor? Where is he today?

:00:48.:00:55.

Because it could he not instead of covering up for his friends, ask him

:00:56.:00:59.

if he would be kind enough to come along to the house and explain why

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for the first time in my memory in Parliament, a government budget has

:01:06.:01:10.

followed up when in two days of his delivery, and there is an enormous

:01:11.:01:14.

hole in it and the enormous hole is brought about by possibly a

:01:15.:01:20.

temporary retreat on the issue of personal independence payments but,

:01:21.:01:25.

can he guarantee as there will be no further cuts in the DWT budgets and

:01:26.:01:32.

more people with disabilities facing more cuts as the euros goals on or

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that he instead tell us why he is still defending a budget that has an

:01:38.:01:41.

equality at its core, that has impact on the disabled and the pores

:01:42.:01:45.

in our country at its core, and gives tactilely to the riches and

:01:46.:01:49.

the big corporations and this country? The budget has a big hole

:01:50.:01:54.

in it and it is up to the Prime Minister to persuade his friend the

:01:55.:01:59.

Chancellor to either come here and explain how he's going to fill the

:02:00.:02:04.

hole or perhaps he should consider his position and look for something

:02:05.:02:08.

else to do because clearly he has not been very successful at

:02:09.:02:12.

producing a balanced budget in the interest of everyone and this

:02:13.:02:14.

country particularly those with Let me thank the honourable

:02:15.:02:23.

gentleman for his response. First of all on the refugee issue, he says we

:02:24.:02:27.

have a duty to help and he is right, we have helped and spent billions of

:02:28.:02:30.

pounds supporting refugees in refugee camp, more than any other

:02:31.:02:34.

European country. The Royal Navy has helped a huge measure. Picking

:02:35.:02:38.

people out of the C and saving lives. We are taking 20,000 refugees

:02:39.:02:42.

from the neighbouring countries and when you look at the figures, what

:02:43.:02:45.

other European countries have done, we have put in place that planned

:02:46.:02:49.

and delivered a far faster than many other and most other countries. The

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second point he raised was about Amnesty International. He is

:02:55.:02:58.

absolutely right that we must in this process respect international

:02:59.:03:01.

law and the role of the NHC are and the agreement with Turkey made that

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clear. But I do not think it is right to say that Turkey is an

:03:06.:03:09.

unsafe country for Syria and refugees. I think that is like

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insulting to the Turks who are currently hosting to .6 million

:03:15.:03:18.

people who have fled Syria. So what is going to happen is those people

:03:19.:03:22.

who do not apply for asylum will be returned to Jordi immediately. Those

:03:23.:03:27.

who do will go through a rapid process, but with all the proper

:03:28.:03:31.

procedures in place, and as the agreement says, all migrants will be

:03:32.:03:36.

returned to Turkey because it it is a sick country for refugees. For

:03:37.:03:41.

anyone it is unsafe for, then of course that is different. I would

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say to him he is missing the point. Which is, it sounds very

:03:46.:03:48.

compassionate to say to refugees, keep coming, you can comment. But

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you are encouraging people to make a perilous journey where so many have

:03:53.:03:56.

lost their lives. It is actually a more compassionate thing to make

:03:57.:04:00.

sure you have firm borders and proper processes and you support the

:04:01.:04:05.

refugees in the countries that they are in. We should be encouraging --

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should not be encouraging more people to travel. About the Syria

:04:09.:04:11.

peace process, I can say that the cease-fire is holding better than I

:04:12.:04:15.

think people expected, as a result the talks are under way still and we

:04:16.:04:19.

are hopeful of progress but it will be a slow and difficult process. In

:04:20.:04:24.

Libya, there is a new prime minister, the Foreign Secretary said

:04:25.:04:26.

to him over the weekend they will give every support that we can for

:04:27.:04:30.

the reasons that he gives. He asked questions about Calais. Let me say

:04:31.:04:35.

this to him, of course everybody is disturbed by the pictures of what

:04:36.:04:39.

happens in Calais, in those camps, but there is a very simple answer

:04:40.:04:42.

for those people which is that France is a safe country. If they

:04:43.:04:47.

want asylum, they should apply for asylum in France. If there are

:04:48.:04:50.

children in those camps, you have -- who have direct family in Britain,

:04:51.:04:57.

they can join their family in Britain. We should not be doing

:04:58.:05:01.

anything to discourage people from taking that correct step. In terms

:05:02.:05:04.

of his question about whether we will take people from inside Europe,

:05:05.:05:08.

I do not think that is the right answer. I would argue that the

:05:09.:05:11.

approach the home Secretary and I set out almost a year ago of

:05:12.:05:16.

tackling this problem upstream concentrating on borders, taking

:05:17.:05:21.

migrants from, taking asylum seekers from refugee camps, is a better

:05:22.:05:25.

approach than most countries in Europe can see the merit of. He

:05:26.:05:29.

asked if there is a European plan and yes, there is, we are one of the

:05:30.:05:34.

more important countries there at this counsel arguing to get this

:05:35.:05:36.

deal done and implemented properly because while it has many

:05:37.:05:40.

imperfections, it is our best hope of trying to stem this tied of

:05:41.:05:46.

people coming toward Europe and the misery that is causing and bringing.

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On the issue of the tampon tax, I should pay tribute to the honourable

:05:52.:05:55.

member as well for the hard work done. I am delighted we now have

:05:56.:05:59.

this proposal coming forward. In terms of the Chancellor of the

:06:00.:06:03.

Exchequer, he will be in the House tomorrow winding up the budget

:06:04.:06:09.

debate. You have the first Lord of the Treasury today, you're going to

:06:10.:06:12.

have the second Lord of the Treasury tomorrow, and when it comes to holes

:06:13.:06:17.

in the budget, we can perhaps hear from the lords that set upset

:06:18.:06:20.

because they left us the biggest black call there ever was. When I

:06:21.:06:27.

became Prime Minister, we had an 11% budget deficit, that was the biggest

:06:28.:06:30.

budget deficit anywhere and as for the budget, let me remind them, this

:06:31.:06:35.

budget increased funding for our schools. This budget took more

:06:36.:06:38.

low-paid people out of income tax, this budget help hard-working

:06:39.:06:43.

people. This budget help the poorest in our country to say Demarco safe,

:06:44.:06:47.

this backs small business and that is why it'll strengthen our economy

:06:48.:06:52.

and make sure we have a fairer society. The fifth point of the

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Council conclusions is that the EU reiterates that it expects Turkey to

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respect the high standards when it comes to democracy, rule of law,

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respect the fundamental freedoms including freedom of expression. Any

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reference to this was absent from the accompanying EU - Turkey

:07:13.:07:19.

statement. How many Kurds have to be killed by the Turkish security

:07:20.:07:23.

forces before we no longer regard Turkey as a first country of asylum

:07:24.:07:27.

or safer third country, not least for Syrian Kurds? First of all he is

:07:28.:07:36.

right that their conclusions mentioned of commitment and

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democracy and freedom of speech and the freedom of speech Doctor Price,

:07:41.:07:45.

that was spelled out in even more detail, mentioning the newspaper

:07:46.:07:49.

that has faced difficulties. All European countries including this

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one raise this issue at every available opportunity. The point I

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would make is that if you are a Syria and seeking refuge, Turkey has

:07:56.:08:01.

been a safe place for those serious and we should pay tribute to Turkey

:08:02.:08:05.

for looking after to .6 million of those people but we should also make

:08:06.:08:08.

the point that anyone who does genuinely based persecution and

:08:09.:08:13.

Turkey will be ale to take that claim to their asylum claim. Thank

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you very much and may I think the prime minister as well for the

:08:20.:08:23.

advanced statement of the first tab of the statement and that is a

:08:24.:08:27.

statement that the European Union began with the EU - Turkey joint

:08:28.:08:31.

action plan. The statement I want to say about Turkey, Greece, refugees

:08:32.:08:35.

from Syria and elsewhere impact at the management of the sure zone

:08:36.:08:40.

countries, and the prime minister's statement I looked at 12 think the

:08:41.:08:46.

UK is not going to do. So given the projection of refugee numbers for

:08:47.:08:50.

this year, what will it take for the UK to review its 20,000 limit on

:08:51.:08:55.

accepting refugees? With the attempts to change and close the

:08:56.:09:01.

West Balkan route for the refugees, can the premise or update us what

:09:02.:09:05.

this will mean for attempted crossings from Libya? Last week in

:09:06.:09:09.

prime minister's questions I asked about UK plans to send troops to

:09:10.:09:12.

Libya. The Prime Minister chose his words very carefully. He said and I

:09:13.:09:18.

quote "He had no plans to send conventional forces to Libya" with

:09:19.:09:22.

the prime minister acknowledged that he has a policy of neither

:09:23.:09:26.

confirming nor denying the presence of special forces. Willie also

:09:27.:09:36.

confirm that operations conducted by special forces are not subject to

:09:37.:09:41.

parliamentary oversight by either this intelligence or security

:09:42.:09:44.

ministry or the defence select committee. On VAT and sanitary

:09:45.:09:48.

products, we very much welcome this agreement. It would be egregious of

:09:49.:09:52.

the Prime Minister to thank my colleague for Glasgow Central, who

:09:53.:09:58.

is a first member of this house to table amendments to the finance Bill

:09:59.:10:02.

and tribute to be paid to all members across as House across all

:10:03.:10:07.

parties for this welcome change. The second half of the Prime minister's

:10:08.:10:11.

statement on the Civil War within the government. Will the Prime

:10:12.:10:18.

Minister confirm that he, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the

:10:19.:10:20.

Secretary of State for Scotland, and his whole cabinet, agreed last week

:10:21.:10:25.

to cut support for the disabled by four points ?3 billion while at the

:10:26.:10:30.

same time adding a tax cut to the very wealthy. I repeatedly asked the

:10:31.:10:34.

Prime Minister about the devastating impact of benefit cuts to the most

:10:35.:10:37.

vulnerable, including the disabled and ill, who will go on many, sadly,

:10:38.:10:43.

tragically, to take their own lives. Does the Prime Minister understand

:10:44.:10:47.

that people watching the ongoing fallout in the conservative party

:10:48.:10:52.

are totally horrified that more time is spent talking about the jobs of

:10:53.:10:57.

Tory ministers then the impact that is damaging policies on the weakest

:10:58.:11:03.

in society? First of all, I say to the right honourable gentleman,

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enter the 20,000 what we have said and let me repeat again is that we

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are looking at the issue of the child migrants and those we can help

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more of, we took 3000 in last year. Of the 20,000 we expect, many are

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expected to be children and we are working with the UNHCR and we're

:11:21.:11:23.

looking at children within the region and have talked about

:11:24.:11:25.

potentially in the hundreds rather than thousands and my right

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honourable rent is examining that. On the West Balkan route, I am not

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surprised that countries have decided to erect borders because

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they have been very concerned about the huge flow of people through that

:11:37.:11:42.

route. But obviously those in the Schengen countries and others of a

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whole to secure the borders is better and that is what we are

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helping with. I think it has particular locations are Libya,

:11:51.:11:54.

those migrants have been coming through Malta and Italy but we need

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to address that. On special forces, let me confirm the long-standing

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policy of all governments have exactly the same approach and we

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have not changed that at all. On sanitary products I'm very happy to

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pay tribute to the Member for Glasgow Central and apologise for

:12:10.:12:14.

missing them out. On this disability, I am saying we're not

:12:15.:12:17.

going ahead with the changes that were put forward, but what we are

:12:18.:12:20.

going ahead with is the situation, when I was Prime Minister first, we

:12:21.:12:25.

spelled so much on disability benefits and at the end of this

:12:26.:12:29.

Parliament we are spending over 46 billion, which is a real terms

:12:30.:12:33.

increase of over 4 billion. What we did in that budget was also help

:12:34.:12:37.

take the low-paid people after tax and assist in many ways. That is why

:12:38.:12:41.

it was a good budget, we have taken the right decisions with that. In

:12:42.:12:49.

addition to the refugees we are taking from the camps, each year

:12:50.:12:53.

thousands of people enter this country irregularly and by other

:12:54.:12:58.

means from North Africa and the Middle East seeking asylum and many

:12:59.:13:01.

are granted. Those numbers are increasing. Does the Prime Minister

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therefore agree with me that it is a complete mistake to regard the

:13:06.:13:10.

current crisis over migration as somehow something apart from the

:13:11.:13:15.

United Kingdom, if only we were not in the European Union and that

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actually it is in the British incest to play and continue playing --

:13:22.:13:26.

interest. To play a role in these European Council discussions to

:13:27.:13:29.

achieve a solution to external European border and how we will deal

:13:30.:13:34.

with genuine migrants in civilized conditions and returned those who

:13:35.:13:37.

have no claim to come. And will continued to commit to the European

:13:38.:13:44.

effort, the Navy, the aid money, the resources we are giving, to these...

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-- diplomatic efforts? I thank my friend for his honourable remarks.

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Whether we're in the European Union or out of it, there is still a

:13:56.:14:00.

migration crisis the continent of Europe and that does have knock on

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effects to us. The more people that come, the more people who end up

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that Calle, and worsen the problem we have. I would argue that we have

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the best of both worlds because we are sad around the table trying to

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solve this problem, and I think good progress has been made, but because

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we are not in Schengen or these resettlement schemes, we keep our

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own decisions by borders and visas and all the rest of it, but clearly

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it does benefit us to co-operate so we should continue to do that and

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continue to recognise that Britain could bring its experience there in

:14:31.:14:33.

helping our friends in Greece who face a real crisis now in their

:14:34.:14:37.

country and they deserve our assistance and help. Can I think the

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Prime Minister for his statement and his somewhat revised and link the

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assessment of the merit to the right honourable member. Let's be clear

:14:50.:14:55.

though, the Turkey- EU deal is a result of failure by European

:14:56.:14:59.

leaders including our own Prime Minister to develop safe,

:15:00.:15:01.

sustainable, and humane routes for refugees who are fleeing for their

:15:02.:15:06.

lives. It is an operable, may well be illegal, and has a public image

:15:07.:15:11.

of protecting human lives. Given the Prime Minister is today painting the

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stress of he is being a compassionate conservative, will he

:15:18.:15:20.

show some compassion for the 43,000 people currently stuck in Greece,

:15:21.:15:24.

including 20,000 children, and on the century for some of them, in

:15:25.:15:28.

particular those incredibly vulnerable unaccompanied children

:15:29.:15:32.

and families with babies was white I have to say I profoundly disagree

:15:33.:15:36.

with the right honourable gentleman. The idea that if we had found safe

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Routes for people to come to Europe, then somehow the whole people

:15:41.:15:44.

smuggling, criminal games, and amassed him and the people would

:15:45.:15:48.

have come to an end is a complete and utter nonsense. And yet you have

:15:49.:15:53.

to have some hard borders. A country is responsible for having its

:15:54.:15:55.

borders and if you're the expert a country to the European Union you

:15:56.:15:59.

are particularly responsible for your border. That combination of

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harder border controls, but compassion and helping refugees in

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the region, that is the answer. We play our part by putting in our

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money and taking the 20,000 refugees, but the idea that you open

:16:11.:16:13.

up safe Routes and the problem would be solved is complete nonsense.

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Given the extraordinary difficulties that have occurred with regard to

:16:26.:16:30.

the charter of fundamental rights and the human rights and asylum

:16:31.:16:34.

laws, how does my right honourable friend proposed that the Turkey deal

:16:35.:16:38.

will be legally and politically enforceable? It is the view of the

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lead advisor to the European Council that what is being proposed is

:16:46.:16:50.

legal. Is it difficult to achieve? Yes it is because you have to

:16:51.:16:54.

consider each case individually. But is it is impossible if you deck

:16:55.:16:57.

signalling Turkey as a safe country for refugees to return there? And

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yes it is possible. I would say if you look at problems we have had

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with mass movements of people over years, you have to have a set of

:17:07.:17:11.

nations that break the line between getting in a boat and getting

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settled. Until you do that you are basically unable to deal the crisis.

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That is what Europe has now set out to do and we shouldn't encourage

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them in that goal. -- should encourage them. I agree that

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progress has been made but it has come at a cost. Turkey will be

:17:28.:17:31.

getting 3 billion euros and they asked for another three bearing

:17:32.:17:36.

euros by the end of 2018. Greece on the other hand, which is the

:17:37.:17:39.

process, house, and return these migrants have not been given any

:17:40.:17:45.

additional resources. Does he agree with me that what we need to do next

:17:46.:17:50.

is to take preventative action to stop the criminal gangs exploiting

:17:51.:17:55.

those migrants who come now from different routes? I am grateful to

:17:56.:18:01.

what the honourable gentleman says. I would argue, first of all the

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money that is going to Turkey is not money for Turkey it is money for

:18:05.:18:08.

Syrian refugees in Turkey and for them to make sure they are properly

:18:09.:18:11.

looked after. We have given support to Greece, that is a European

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programme to help, but above all Greece needs support from experts,

:18:17.:18:23.

translators, asylum expertise, which all of the main countries in Europe

:18:24.:18:26.

are now offering to provide, and what is required is a plan to make

:18:27.:18:31.

sure they get what they need. Any help in kind would be probably more

:18:32.:18:34.

useful for firming up the Greeks system than just giving the money.

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Pressure on time requires brevity. In my experience, unfailingly

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represented. Given the obvious difficulty in unifying the varying

:18:51.:18:54.

economies and societies of the current EU, why is now a good time

:18:55.:18:57.

to accelerate possible Turkish membership? I think the issue here

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is there is no, it is not remotely on the cards for this to happen for

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many years to come. Every country has a veto at every stage, including

:19:11.:19:14.

this country. The French for instance has said they will hold a

:19:15.:19:19.

referendum on Turkish membership and 75% of the French public do not want

:19:20.:19:24.

Turkey to join. Of the process of applying and opening these chapters

:19:25.:19:29.

and going through things like press freedom and human rights,

:19:30.:19:31.

independence of the judiciary and so much, so such. It has been a good

:19:32.:19:38.

process and that is how we should see it. Since the Bloomberg speech,

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the Prime Minister hold European strategy has been trying to manage

:19:46.:19:50.

the divisions in his own party on this issue. In the recent days,

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could you update the House on how that is going? What I would say to

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the right of -- right honourable gentleman who speaks a lot of sense

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about this issue, this country has to make a decision. It is not just

:20:07.:20:10.

one political party or the other who has people on both sides of this

:20:11.:20:14.

argument. The country, I think it is time for us to have this debate, to

:20:15.:20:18.

look at the advantages of staying and the risks on both sides and to

:20:19.:20:22.

make a decision. I am very clear about what the decision should be,

:20:23.:20:27.

but you cannot hold a country inside an organisation against its will. I

:20:28.:20:31.

think it is time again to put that question to the

:20:32.:20:42.

British people. I will campaign enthusiastically for remaining, not

:20:43.:20:45.

least of these the agreements I have achieved, but it is for others to

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set their arguments. But for Democrats in this House of Commons,

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we should not be frightened by the will of the people. Has my right

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honourable friend noticed that the three and a half billion pound

:20:54.:20:55.

savings that are for benefits of disabled people that the Chancellor

:20:56.:20:59.

needed to find is not exactly equal to the planned increase since his

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previous budget and our EU contributions over this Parliament?

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Given his success in persuading our partners to be flexible over VAT,

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could he now challenge them, most of Hume are not seeing any increase in

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contributions, to forgo our increase since the British people would not

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take kindly to the idea that we must cut benefits to vulnerable people in

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order to hand over every penny to the EU? I respectfully disagree with

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my right honourable friend about this fundamental European issue. I

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make the point that the ?46 billion we spend on disability benefits is

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many times more than anything we give to the European Union and

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indeed, few think about it in tact, every pound paid in tax, a little

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over 1p goes to the EU in terms of contribution. We are on different

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sides of the argument, I believe that penny in every pound gets us

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the trade and investment and cooperation we need. He takes a

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different view but I am sure will have a civilized argument about it.

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The one thing I would say is that because of the budget agreement I

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reached in the last Parliament, our contributions are much lower than

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they otherwise would have been. We were falling -- we have a falling EU

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budget rather than a rising one and that is because of this government

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and House of Commons. The EU- Turkey deal will do nothing to help the

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26,000 children, child refugees, who are already alone in Europe. I met a

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12-year-old in Calais this morning with no one to look after them. If

:22:37.:22:40.

the House of Lords both this evening to support the amendment to help

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3000 child refugees, will he drop his opposition and support children

:22:49.:22:53.

as we did with the candour transport so many decades ago, that itself

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helped rescue the life of that child? First of all we do not

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support that amendment because we think it is right to take additional

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children, have just said in another answer, to take additional children

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above 20,000 stop to take them from the region and do it by working with

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UNHCR. I think the unfairness of I might say of comparing Child

:23:17.:23:19.

migrants in Europe with the candour transport is of course, countries

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like France and Germany and Italy, these are safe countries. These are

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countries where anyone who claims asylum, if they have family in

:23:31.:23:33.

Britain, they are able to come to Britain. So I do not think it is a

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fair comparison. All of us on this side of the House were delighted to

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hear the Prime Minister reaffirmed with vigour and confidence his

:23:47.:23:51.

determination to continue as a great reforming government with the

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successful central themes of his administration. But will he review

:23:54.:23:58.

whether or not there is a need to add to the deployment of... And

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perhaps add other vessels in support? I think they're very well

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may be a need to do so because their two operations under way. A Nato

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operation and frankly we want that operation to do more, it is not the

:24:16.:24:19.

moment sufficiently in Turkish waters able to work with the Turkish

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Coast Guard, sending back boats to Turkey, we want that to happen.

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There is also operations of you in the central Mediterranean where you

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have these boats, but as the weather improves I am concerned that the

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central Mediterranean room will open up again and that is why I held the

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meeting with the other prime ministers and presidents to say we

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all have to put more resources then, recognising that we cannot let this

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route open up just as we sort out or hope to sort out the others. The

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Lithuanian president has described the EU- Turkey deal as being on the

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edge of international law. Does the Prime Minister agree with that

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assessment and does he accept that from June of this year, from the

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English Channel to the Syria border, it will be a visa free zone across

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all of Europe? What international security questions does that pose

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for the United Kingdom and its borders? First of all on what the

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president was saying, we are very clear that this deal must be

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compliant with international law and international rules and that is

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exactly what the European commission and Council and all the countries

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helping Greece make sure is going to happen. The key thing is, if Turkey

:25:35.:25:38.

is a safe country for Syrian refugees, then it should be possible

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to return Syrian refugees in Turkey because they should be applying for

:25:42.:25:46.

asylum there rather than going on with their journey. On the second

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issue you raised? If the rest of the EU gives right... It is not a right

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to settle does not in any way change the rest to rest to come to the UK,

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so I think there is a lot of scaremongering going on about this

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issue because we're not changing our or proposals one bit. Does the Prime

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Minister share my concern at the study Islamization of Turkish

:26:18.:26:21.

society by its government, does he share my surprise that Turkey is now

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so confident that it can't stop the votes coming when it has not been

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able to in the past. -- boats. And does he share my fear that the mass

:26:33.:26:40.

migration into Europe will fuel the rise of the far right neo-Nazi

:26:41.:26:44.

parties in those EU countries that were foolish enough to get rid of

:26:45.:26:49.

their national borders? I am in the happy position to be able to agree

:26:50.:26:52.

with my right honourable friend on all of those measures. As someone

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who's spent time in Turkey as a student, I think it is secularism

:26:59.:27:04.

and its believe in wanting to become more like a Western democracy is one

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of its strengths and we should encourage it. I also agree with them

:27:08.:27:12.

that countries that do not control their borders do risk the rise of

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unsavoury elements and that is why it is important we maintain our

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borders. Obviously when it comes to this issue on wanting to return

:27:20.:27:23.

migrants to Turkey, it is very important that Turkey is and remains

:27:24.:27:32.

a safe country but that it is today. The Prime Minister says he is a

:27:33.:27:37.

compassionate conservative, leading a one nation government. So how does

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he feel when a former leader of his party, a member of his cabinet for

:27:44.:27:49.

six years, says this simply is not true? Obviously we were not closely

:27:50.:27:55.

together for the last six years and I am proud of the things we have

:27:56.:28:00.

done together because it is is this government has enlisted almost for

:28:01.:28:03.

me people out of the government income tax. It is seen an increase

:28:04.:28:08.

in disability benefit and it is thanks to the hard work of the right

:28:09.:28:12.

honourable member, because of the growing economy and the changes to

:28:13.:28:17.

welfare, we have thing to .4 million people get work and our country. And

:28:18.:28:21.

behind the statistics, the human beings are able to put food on a

:28:22.:28:24.

table and have a better life for their families because of the work

:28:25.:28:27.

we have done together. I am sad that he has left the government but I can

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guarantee the work on being a compassionate conservative

:28:32.:28:37.

government will continue. Given the nature of the terrorist threat, does

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my right honourable friend not agree with me how important it is that the

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European countries intelligence and security agencies operate fully with

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hours and defeating ices and that it is absurd to suggest that membership

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of the EU is likely to result in tariffs and tax on the United

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Kingdom? It is important that our indices were together and on the

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whole, that will be on a bilateral basis, but it is worth understanding

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that in the modern European Union, there are a series of mechanisms

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about criminal records, about border information, about watch lists,

:29:16.:29:19.

passenger name records, all of which help to keep us safer than we would

:29:20.:29:23.

otherwise have been. I want to be completely fair, if we left the

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European Union, you could try to negotiate your way back into those

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things, but it would take time, and it does beg the question that if you

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want to get back into them, why are you getting out of them?

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With the Prime Minister now justify the nearly ?3 billion given away in

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capital gains to the wealthy? I think it is right to cut capital

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gains tax because they want an enterprising economy watch the doors

:29:54.:29:55.

want to get out there set up businesses create wealthy great jobs

:29:56.:29:59.

and generate tax revenue to pay for the health service and the schools

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we want for our country, and note that the capital gains tax rate at

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20% will actually be a little bit higher than what it was in last

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government! We are not cutting it for carried interest we will not

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have that absurd interest -- situation when he was a government,

:30:19.:30:22.

the people of the city were paying the -- less tax than people playing

:30:23.:30:30.

their -- cleaning offices my right honourable gentleman friend, that

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the accession of Turkey was a very long way off. Is this uncertainty

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what is staying in books like was the white --? There is a veto by

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every country at every stage. The situation as I see it with those

:30:50.:30:53.

countries and I mentioned France, has no process in this debate that

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we are having about Europe, unfortunately we are in opposite

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sides of the debate, but it will be civilized, I want to try to get rid

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of any of the potential -- any bit have the potential argument with

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what is going to happen rather than things that will not happen. There

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is merit in seek asylum seekers. They will have serious health

:31:27.:31:33.

problems sometimes lifelong. Would you compensate those that seek

:31:34.:31:38.

asylum in the interests of the asylum seekers in their community,

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will you help the asylum seekers throughout the country and those in

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his house comic of the truth these last year and how many would you

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welcome this year? First of all, I think that the Honorable judgement

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is right that by selecting the 20,000 from the refugee camps the

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organised agency are disabilities disabilities would can help with in

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a civilized country like United Kingdom. You have the money here, in

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terms of my own constituency and families, I don't know the number

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off the top of my head, but I agree with him that we want authorities to

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come forward and that's where my honourable friend is working so hard

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for. I'm delighted to hear that the Prime Minister is committed to

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running a one nation Conservative Party, which is what the country

:32:38.:32:42.

voted for only last May. On the issue of refugees, he made it

:32:43.:32:47.

increasingly clear that this terrible crisis can only be solved

:32:48.:32:52.

by collective action at the European level, will he commit that the

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British Government plays a leading and instructing role in this facing

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crisis? I think right honourable friend for what he says the scale of

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the challenge is so great, but the Greek border needs to be harder and

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more efficiently run, that requires assistance from other countries. In

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my view, military assets and Nato assets in the Mediterranean, other

:33:17.:33:22.

assets will help civilian authorities where it may, printing

:33:23.:33:26.

authorities to bring a lot of experience to this as written's

:33:27.:33:31.

leading military power and had to deal with asylum applications and

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processes and all the complicated legalities on every front stop light

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this is on the Tim context, this is a great victory, and I'm sure the

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whole House will congratulate who has been dish petitioned this. Can

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the Prime Minister set out that the agreement tomorrow, but the finance

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Bill will pass to the House before the referendum in June, will he

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pledged that vital funding for women for services was provided will

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continue? Mr Speaker, I hope that the date we can set this to history?

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Diet once again page a bit to the Honorable Lady with that new

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epithet, I think that will live on for many years to come. I'd like to

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pay tribute to this Honorable Lady with the amendment in terms of the

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timing I'm sure it was discussed and debated in the debate yesterday, all

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I can save for my part is explaining some of getting over the language

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barriers on sanitary products it will take me a while. I would call

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on her but she is not standing so I cannot. The Prime Minister has

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reiterated his support for the European Union, he has said there is

:35:16.:35:22.

no support for the... What assessment has he made on migration

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would be from Turkey and in the long term if they were to join, and any

:35:26.:35:32.

additional costs for the youth UK taxpayer is he in favour of their

:35:33.:35:38.

access to the EU at any price of the UK taxpayer? What I would say to my

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Honorable friend, there is no remote prospect of this happening so he

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doesn't have to worry about it in terms of future sessions to the EU,

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will be as set out in the manifesto was a much tougher approach that we

:35:54.:35:57.

believe countries that do join the EU, should get to the position of

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being much closer entrance of GDP kappa to the current level the big

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migrations... Because no country can get into the EU, with out all

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existing members, it is something we and the other countries have to be

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tell. On these arrangements, we have to absolutely insist on them. Thank

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you Mr Speaker, of the tampon on tax last year, the treasure was quite

:36:31.:36:37.

dismissive site like to commend -- come and the government on this

:36:38.:36:41.

particular issue. The women of this country put much pressure on this

:36:42.:36:47.

country to help with this important issue. Is anything you'd like to

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help implement? I am grateful for the Honorable Lady's work on this to

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help. I think she will find that other European countries of course

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there is huge pressure on other countries to explain their own taxon

:37:08.:37:10.

sanitary products, of course with Ireland leading the way. In terms of

:37:11.:37:19.

the manifesto, with we have an independent Scotland we want the

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text... Thank you Mr Speaker. May I welcome my right honourable friend

:37:32.:37:37.

who is a widely respected on these benches. Would he agree with me,

:37:38.:37:42.

that two of the greatest three reforms that he leads, are restoring

:37:43.:37:50.

the fiscal rectitude and can heed therefore continue with both

:37:51.:37:54.

equally? I wholeheartedly agree with my Honorable friend, and this does

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go to the point with a welfare cap, controlled very easily with

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departmental spending is up by 60% under the last government. That is

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money you cannot spend on hospitals, schools, bridal services. -- vital.

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This is a vital component of a one nation government. Had powerful

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testimony who she escaped from kidnap from the -- -- Daesh Daesh.

:38:34.:38:47.

Will the race of the government in both Iraq and Turkey will he raise

:38:48.:38:53.

that question? We will do more to help the LCDs which is why we are in

:38:54.:39:05.

terms of what the secretary said the government policy figures under

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previous governments that genocide is under a legal opinion very

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despite a legal... I want to bore my colleagues are

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normally call everyone, I fear it will almost certainly not be

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possible today. Brevity will help however. At the end of the Prime

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minister's remarks, he made his statement to the state of

:39:42.:39:44.

generations. Does my Honorable friend that this is a classic

:39:45.:39:47.

example of a one nation conservatism. Given that is not only

:39:48.:39:52.

improved homes for those of lifting our cities, but supplied new homes

:39:53.:39:57.

for top buyers? My Honorable friend is absolutely right. The aim here

:39:58.:40:01.

should be to remove all barriers there anyway of people progressing

:40:02.:40:05.

and making the most of their lives. That is regenerating estates, they

:40:06.:40:08.

can play a huge part in addressing the shortage of childcare places

:40:09.:40:14.

like schools, mental health issues, unblocking barriers will lead to

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success. Will be Prime Minister did his assurance in view of the

:40:24.:40:28.

financial mess that is being created with this budget, that this will be

:40:29.:40:31.

the Chancellor of Exchequer last budget? Here that aid, only cats

:40:32.:40:49.

have nine lives? No. Is a income at those who accept the budget cuts, to

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tell us how they produce the deficit? But Honorable friend is

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absolutely right there are decisions you have to take, when you are

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facing a level of... We still need to get this country back to us there

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plus I would argue that this is not some artificial target you have to

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make sure. You're putting aside money for a rainy day, that is what

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this is all about. It does involve difficult decisions you don't always

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get that right, but it is very important you stick to the long-term

:41:28.:41:29.

economic plan of getting this country back from back. He mentioned

:41:30.:41:41.

the work of his former Secretary of State, that is current chancellor,

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so can he tell us if he is ruling out any further negotiation with the

:41:47.:41:52.

EU on benefits of spending, just how to see intend to fix the big holes

:41:53.:41:56.

in the budget that was announced this week and? What you see in the

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budget is good be a good package of measures, that will get the company

:42:01.:42:04.

back to work, will support our schools. The Jester will be sure to

:42:05.:42:08.

our winding up the budget debate, and a new forecast will be produced

:42:09.:42:11.

in all these issues will be addressed. Normally, on everything

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he says I almost don't agree with everything, but, I'm now confused by

:42:25.:42:30.

the answers given. The government says that it lasts -- lacks

:42:31.:42:36.

enthusiastically Turkey's ascension to the EU. Can it get these facts

:42:37.:42:46.

right? We do believe in free movement, we do want to stay in the

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EU. The answer is no, because Turkey is in a part of the EU. In this

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debate, which I know will get very passionate, people want to raise

:43:03.:43:05.

potential concerns and worries in order to support their argument. But

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I have to say in terms of Turkey being a member of the EU, this is

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not remotely a prospect. If every country has a B2 -- vetoed... Let us

:43:16.:43:23.

talk about in the debate what will happen, not what will not happen. We

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stay in a reformed European Union would keep our borders, we keep our

:43:30.:43:35.

right to set our own asylums and immigration policies. We can stop

:43:36.:43:39.

any what we want to at our borders. Yes we do believe in the free

:43:40.:43:42.

movement of people, as other Europeans as well. It is not a

:43:43.:43:50.

qualified right now. If you come here, kept by the job, get

:43:51.:43:55.

unemployment benefits, get sent home after six months, don't ask us to

:43:56.:44:01.

our welfare system, ironically if we were to eat leaves the EU and take

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up a Norway style position, no one would have that welfare

:44:07.:44:09.

restrictions. Let us set out what can happen versus what will not

:44:10.:44:10.

happen. With the Civil War, the prime

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Minister says it is better to keep refugees in the region, they look at

:44:26.:44:28.

us and they close their borders. They have taken 4 million refugees

:44:29.:44:34.

can be province or tell the House with their European native allies of

:44:35.:44:40.

the cease-fire in Syria. Have the violations been reported, and what

:44:41.:44:43.

is the timetable to move toward the peace and democratic elections in

:44:44.:44:47.

Syria to allow those refugees to return home? Lots of customs there

:44:48.:44:57.

-- questions there. I can't pay and -- paint an entirely rosy picture

:44:58.:45:01.

but it can be better than people expected. The peace talks are under

:45:02.:45:06.

way onto Lebanon had taken a huge number of refugees of course the

:45:07.:45:12.

country. The neighbouring countries are under obligation to fulfil those

:45:13.:45:15.

obligations. We are helping with a massive aid programme, but we are

:45:16.:45:22.

also helping the Lebanese forces. They are having considerable success

:45:23.:45:25.

in making sure they keep Daesh out of their own country. The home

:45:26.:45:35.

affairs select committee visited there to see if the work with the

:45:36.:45:42.

police forces... They told as 90% of the asylum-seekers were thought to

:45:43.:45:47.

use human traffickers to reach the EU. We need to break these criminal

:45:48.:45:53.

gangs to stop them profiting from human tragedy? My Honorable friend

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is absolutely right and I think already the action we're starting to

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the people traffickers some of their markers are -- markets are becoming

:46:05.:46:07.

more difficult to operate in their costs are going up. The national

:46:08.:46:13.

crime agency, our European partners we are putting them of business. On

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the best aspect of his statement, can I say to the Prime Minister not

:46:21.:46:26.

once today as he shown understanding of why there was such a public

:46:27.:46:30.

outcry throughout the country over the government's intention to help

:46:31.:46:37.

the most honourable in our country. I do say he is becoming increased

:46:38.:46:47.

increasingly uncertain. We have spent 42 billion on disabilities.

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They'll go up to 46 billion by the end of this Parliament. We have

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spent more on this. More under every year under this government under

:47:01.:47:05.

then under a Labour government. He is cascading his own party. Now I've

:47:06.:47:16.

call for consider brevity. What about other native members in terms

:47:17.:47:19.

of stopping the file people trafficking trade from serious? We

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are having good decides -- discussion were still having me to

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be able to do more I would like Nader ships to be able to spend more

:47:28.:47:29.

time in Turkish territory. -- Nato. Because he is right to say that the

:47:30.:47:52.

children in Calais cannot puppeteer, but the 150 take charge request

:47:53.:47:56.

issued by the French government, could be Prime Minister look at this

:47:57.:48:00.

and bring forward proposals to get the process working, for any more

:48:01.:48:04.

children suffer anymore over there? I've looked at this with the French

:48:05.:48:11.

president, if you look at asylum with a look at the documents. In

:48:12.:48:18.

congratulation with the ships company, to my right honourable

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friend in particular medical team whose work extraordinary...

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Trigger-happy to right honourable friend that the huge privilege going

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to board one of the ships in Malta taken apart helping people pick up.

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They save literally thousands of lives whether the medic teams, the

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Marines, what are his is the personnel. The prime ministers

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tagging on a recent days who unsuccessfully tried to explain the

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own tragedies does the Prime Minister except with the revelation

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of the Chancellor doesn't care about moral people of the tour emote vote

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amongst them the compassionate conservatives... If I come to those

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and not I think that would be right when it comes to, the people costing

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their votes -- casting was aboard the voting people, we want to create

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jobs cutting taxes, reforming welfare, we are improving schools,

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we are investing our country and make an economy stronger, is a fair.

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Did not at the British public policy of taking refugees from British

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camps, there are no position to take position, it is absolutely right

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thing to do. My Honorable friend is absolutely right. If fighting

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resumes in Styria what is our plan? -- Styria we will combat -- --

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Daesh. We'll sport a transitional government into without moderate in

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opinion in it whenever you were -- unite the country. With the Prime

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Minister agree with me that the weakness of those who are

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criticising the agreement between the EU and Turkey would they say the

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opposition of the leader today as they has significantly failed to

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present a credible alternative to those arrangements. Surely in the

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British public arrangements will surely make sensible arrangements

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with Turkey to make sure the migrant stomach a perilous journey will omit

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attending our own borders? A grip my right honourable friend I do believe

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we will get the best of both worlds, if we hadn't been there, what would

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difference would we have make? I think the European Union, will

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continue for longer with the rather borderless approach, the relocating

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migrants around different but countries which had failed. The

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approach is more about looking upstream, supported the camps,

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finding the funding for that, breaking the link between getting

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settlement. The home Secretary has been after meeting after meeting.

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This woman proud woman of two disabled signs she rang me white

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sheet wise at people like us? Can the Prime Minister rule out, the

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chief Association minister said today other any further cuts to not

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support disabled in the sprawling? We've increased the number --

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money... We have set out in our manifesto of the changes we need to

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make to get the welfare budget under control. We have made those changes.

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I think my right honourable friend for the sense of the way that he or

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she with the can I ask my right honourable friend to ensure that

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local authorities and the EU such such of these places in that

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district Council are properly resourced and financed to welcome

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the refugees? I believe they are properly resourced, because of the

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different money that is available in the ongoing sport been given. But I

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have encouraged local causes to give families coming here to want to go

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home, will be hard-working, contributing to our communities, I

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encouraged the council to come forward with their plans. Mr Speaker

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and other European countries with refugees being taken in, just what

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will it take for this government to revise... There are a lot of

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unaccompanied children stranded. Surely to look after them in

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society? What I would say to the Honorable Lady, if you look at the

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chance that the European Union is that Britain is doing more than the

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vast majority of other countries. Some countries have made pledges to

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resettle the right Syrian refugees that have taken none were only

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several cases more than other countries. Our country plan is

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working. Can my right honourable friend assured me that it will be

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perfect -- perfectly reasonable for any country or our country to veto

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the Turkey is akin to your? Of course that is the case, every

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country has a veto at every stage. Had to be agreed by every country. A

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veto at every stage in every other country will be made every perfectly

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clear. Can I ask the Prime Minister when the right honourable member for

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them first book to the Prime Minister about pressure being put on

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able with disabilities to fill the gap by the deficit, --? I received a

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letter from my right honourable friend Thursday, there had been

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prolonged discussion in the heart of the government of disability bands

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benefit reform, but I have said we're not going to hook those

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proposals. Thank you Mr Speaker I believe the real test the compassion

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is not... To my right honourable friend confirmed that the government

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is taking to liquidate the tax to ensure the riches -- rich people pay

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the high amount of the tax and is pending overs... Went honourable

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friend makes a good point and you look at the figures, some of the

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book easy what is happening to poorest families, they are able to

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get jobs, of the tax... That is what is happening for those families, the

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people at the top the top 1% are paying a higher percentage of income

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taxed to me ever did under Labor. I think with a growing economy

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weakened build the there is certainly. Amazingly a few moments

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ago, Ireland the matter hands, as... The prime minister has an aside to

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else does he have an his sights with Scotland and Ireland port was white

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the island that was in the plan referring to $100 per barrel or a

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boil. You can tell they don't like it when you're shouting, you are

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losing. You are an exceptionally citable fellow you must have

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yourself accordingly. Now and altogether more subdued my Honorable

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friend now. It is often said that the EU is undemocratic, laws are

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imposed deposit upon us. Is it his decision that the Prime Minister

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reports on that, an example of how Britain can mould and shape those

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rules and regulations? A grit my Honorable friend it is if you get

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stuck it is frustrating. Those only cited the argument you should accept

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the frustrations referred to by the other side and it has been

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frustrating for us the last government, for us. It was put

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there, restrictions were put there to have reasonable strayed and

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cross-border issues. It is too inflexible, these changes worked

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well. With the Prime Minister agree with

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me that world populations are moving and changing anyway we would not

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wish away. Does he agree with me we need a strong and united European

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Union to manage those great challenges and without it, we will

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be alone and unable to help these people? Obviously I think

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cooperation amongst the European Union nations helps but it is also

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important, as well for cooperation, that we have the right ideas. I

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think he is trying to say there's a lot of movement are of people around

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the world but the scale of movement from Africa has been so much greater

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in recent years, not because of growing African poverty, but because

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of weakness of North African states and the lack of adequate border

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arrangements. If we have the right thinking plus the cooperation, we

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can get the right answer. Does the Prime Minister agree that the best

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way to show compassion and to provide support for those in need

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that are at home, Syria, or elsewhere in the world is to build a

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stronger economy and generate the resources needed to look after them.

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My honourable friend is absolutely right. You cannot show your

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compassion unless you have a strong economy generating revenues that are

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harping service needs, that our schools need, and that our welfare

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system needs. We understand on the side of the House that compassion is

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a commish of getting the economy right and making the right choices.

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Mr Speaker, despite his best efforts to forge an ever closer union with

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his own party, there is a real risk that the UK will become decoupled

:00:09.:00:16.

from its biggest market and its most strategic ally. What impact does he

:00:17.:00:22.

think that Russian bombing on Syria and tactical resignation by his

:00:23.:00:25.

cabinet have had on the appetite for Brexit in Britain? I think there is

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a strong argument to say that at a time of international danger and

:00:32.:00:34.

difficulty, there is strength in numbers. That we should stick with

:00:35.:00:38.

our allies and friends as we confront Putin in the use of our

:00:39.:00:42.

continent and Isil in the south. As for the ever closer union amongst my

:00:43.:00:45.

colleagues we believe in cooperation rather than uniformity. It is very

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unusual for me to not comedy everybody, order. Time is against

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us. Border! Time is against us and we must move on. The colleagues are

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under speckle of this statement -- under speckle of this statement. --

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an respectful. Mr Speaker with your permission I

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would like to make a statement. It is a privilege to stand here at this

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dispatch box as the new Secretary of State for worker pensions. And

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firstly Mr Speaker I would like to pay a huge tribute to the work or my

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predecessor, the right honourable member. He came into this job six

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years ago with a real sense of mission and purpose to transform

:01:46.:01:49.

people's lies with the better and he achieved some remarkable things. --

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lives. And I intend to build on his success. My vision is to support

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everybody to achieve their full potential and to live independent

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lives. That means people having the stability and security of a decent

:02:04.:02:07.

job, children going up in a home with a benefit of that stability.

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There are not 2 million people in work more than 2010 and almost half

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more children covering up to seeing a mum and dad go up to work. We are

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insuring these opportunities extend to all of these in our society,

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including disabled people. Today there are more than 3 million

:02:29.:02:34.

disabled people in work. In the last 12 months alone, 152,000 more

:02:35.:02:37.

disabled people have moved in to work, 292,000 more over the past two

:02:38.:02:45.

years. That represents real lives transformed as we support people

:02:46.:02:50.

with poor health disabilities and conditions to get all the that that

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brings. We are also supporting the most vulnerable and determining

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those with the greatest need are supported the most. Our reforms have

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seen support for disabled people increase, in the last Parliament

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spending rose by ?3 billion. We are now rightly spending about ?50

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billion on benefits alone to support people with disabilities and health

:03:15.:03:18.

conditions. Devoting this level of resources to such an important group

:03:19.:03:22.

of people is, I believe, the mark of a decent society. Personal

:03:23.:03:29.

independence payments introduced to be a more modern and dynamic benefit

:03:30.:03:33.

to help cover the extra costs faced by disabled people. Something it's

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predecessor did benefit did not do. It is supposed to focus on those

:03:41.:03:44.

with the greatest need and we have seen networking. For example, 22% of

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claimants are receiving the highest level of support, compared to 16%

:03:51.:03:57.

under the predecessor benefit. Before Christmas, the government

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held a consultation on how part of the PIP assessment works in relation

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to a and appliances. I can tell the House that we will not be going

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ahead with the changes to PIP that had been put forward. I am

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absolutely clear Mr Speaker and that a compassionate and fair welfare

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system should not just be about numbers. Behind every statistic,

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there is a human being. Perhaps sometimes in government we forget

:04:30.:04:34.

that. I can also confirm that after discussing this issue over the

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weekend with my right honourable friend the Prime Minister and

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Chancellor, we have no further plans to make welfare savings beyond the

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substantial savings legislated two weeks ago which we will now focus on

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implementing. I want to turn directly to the welfare cap. First

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of all it is right that we monitor welfare spending carefully. The

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principle of introducing a cap is the right one, given the huge

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increases in welfare spending we saw under the previous Labour

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governments, up nearly 60%. The reality is that if we do not control

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the public finances, it is always the poorest in our society that paid

:05:12.:05:15.

the biggest prize. We do need the discipline. The welfare cap does

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strengthen trans transient Parliament, something that simply

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was not in place under labour and we make no apology for this. As we are

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required to do, we will review the level of the cap at the Autumn

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Statement when the reassessment is done. But I want to repeat that we

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have no further plans to make welfare savings beyond the very

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substantial savings legislated for in Parliament two weeks ago which we

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are not focused on implementing. Against this backdrop I want to

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build on the progress we have made and supporting disabled people. We

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made a manifesto commitment to half the gap between the proportion of

:05:56.:05:59.

disabled people in work compare with the rest of the labour market. As

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I've outlined we have made good progress and supporting disabled

:06:03.:06:06.

people into work. But to go further, it will require us to work in a way

:06:07.:06:12.

we have not done before. To think beyond the artificial boundaries,

:06:13.:06:15.

organizations, sectors, and government departments, to an

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approach that is truly collaborative. That is why today I

:06:17.:06:22.

want to start a new conversation for disabled people, their

:06:23.:06:25.

representatives, health care professionals, and employers. I want

:06:26.:06:30.

the welfare system to work better with the health and social care

:06:31.:06:34.

systems. Together we can do so much better for disabled people. But this

:06:35.:06:39.

is a hugely complex but hugely important area of policy to get

:06:40.:06:43.

right. Disabled people themselves require the best insight into how

:06:44.:06:50.

support works for them. -- provide. I think all views will be listened

:06:51.:06:53.

to in the right way in the months ahead. I will be personally involved

:06:54.:06:57.

in these discussions, the events of recent days demonstrate that we need

:06:58.:07:01.

to take time to reflect on how best we support and help transform

:07:02.:07:06.

people's lives. That is the welfare system I believe in. I commend the

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statement of the House. Hear, hear! May I start by saying... To the new

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Secretary of State. That is welcome and congratulations. And our

:07:25.:07:28.

history, of the will of love as I look forward to renewing our

:07:29.:07:30.

relationship and on the basis of today's statement at least it looks

:07:31.:07:33.

like it will be more productive than the one I had with his predecessor

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so I thank them for advanced site of this statement and I welcome the

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vital and if I may say so, wholly inevitable U-turn on the cuts to

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PIP. The way this mess has been handled is a textbook example of

:07:50.:07:52.

Tory Social Security prosody. Long divisive resurrect -- rhetoric. We

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heard the lies before the election, the sham consultation, I welcome the

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fact that these new Secretary of State says he will look as -- listen

:08:05.:08:10.

to the disabled. 95% of them at the consultation told him not to go

:08:11.:08:14.

ahead and he listened to the 11 respondents and put it through. The

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announcement snuck out on a Friday night, the briefings before the

:08:19.:08:23.

budget, the spin afterwards of the extra ?20 million set aside to fight

:08:24.:08:26.

the appeals. Above all the deliberate targeting of disabled

:08:27.:08:31.

people to pay for tax cuts in the budget exposed so mercilessly by his

:08:32.:08:38.

predecessor, the right honourable member at the weekend. Those

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watching the story civil war over the weekend, what really matters are

:08:45.:08:51.

those 640,000 disabled people who have been in the firing line of the

:08:52.:08:57.

Prime minister's budget. So on their behalf I sincerely thank the new

:08:58.:09:01.

Secretary of State for doing the right thing and reversing the cuts

:09:02.:09:07.

to PIP. While I welcome the decision, the manner it came about

:09:08.:09:12.

leaves questions unanswered. It strips all credibility from the

:09:13.:09:15.

claims of this government and this Prime Minister to protect all of the

:09:16.:09:20.

people of Britain. Never again can he or this government claim that we

:09:21.:09:25.

are all in it together. Never again can he claim to leave a -- lead a

:09:26.:09:32.

one nation government because the right honourable member from

:09:33.:09:37.

Woodford Green has left that claim in tatters. Speaking from the heart

:09:38.:09:41.

of the Torah government he said that they are unfairness is damaging the

:09:42.:09:47.

people. It is attacking the poor and dividing our nation. So my question

:09:48.:09:53.

quite simply to the new Secretary of State is, does he agree with his

:09:54.:09:55.

predecessor about the fundamental unfairness of the welfare policy and

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is that why he is reversing the PIP cut today? Can he reassure us that

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those cuts will be fully reversed? Can he reassure us that the

:10:07.:10:10.

arbitrary changes made to the point system under PIP will be dropped and

:10:11.:10:16.

full support will be maintained for people who need, for example, helped

:10:17.:10:20.

going to the toilet or getting dressed in the morning? Can he

:10:21.:10:23.

reassure us this is a real U-turn, not another sleight of hand or sham

:10:24.:10:29.

as we saw with tax credits, because disabled people need to know

:10:30.:10:33.

definitively today that they are being protected. Can he rule out any

:10:34.:10:39.

further cuts to the incomes of disabled people? I presume not, Mr

:10:40.:10:44.

Speaker. Because I read in the statement he refers to the

:10:45.:10:49.

substantial savings legislated for by Parliament two weeks ago. Did not

:10:50.:10:52.

say what he meant by that but I can tell the House when he meant. When

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he met where the cuts to the ES a budget. ?30 a week taken away from

:10:58.:11:02.

the best part of half a million people. Losing ?1500 a year. And we

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know the attitude of the Secretary of State did this because he voted

:11:10.:11:13.

for it two weeks ago and he defended it just on a blog and honourable

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members will do well to listen to this about the Secretary of State.

:11:20.:11:23.

In a blog written last week he said that those people who were opposed

:11:24.:11:31.

to the ESA cut will engage and I quote in "Mere political banter".

:11:32.:11:37.

There is nothing fun or banter about losing ?1500 a year out of your

:11:38.:11:43.

fragile income if you are disabled. Can the Secretary of State be

:11:44.:11:49.

serious and tell us, did he mean the ESA cut? Is there any chance he will

:11:50.:11:53.

not agree with this predecessor that it is unfair and reverse it as he

:11:54.:12:01.

should? , the third tell us and correct the errors made once more

:12:02.:12:05.

from the dispatch box by his honourable friend the financial

:12:06.:12:09.

secretary earlier today that spending on disabled people in this

:12:10.:12:16.

country is not increasing in real terms as was alleged? It is

:12:17.:12:21.

declining. The ISS, independent IFF confirmed last week that spending on

:12:22.:12:28.

PIP and DLA is falling in real terms by 3% or half a billion. And in

:12:29.:12:35.

fact, if you take into account all disabled benefits, at the House of

:12:36.:12:38.

Commons has done an analysis for the Labour Party to be released later

:12:39.:12:47.

today, spending has fallen by 6%. In contrast to the 16% increase that we

:12:48.:12:51.

sought in spending on disabled people under the last Labour

:12:52.:12:57.

government. 6% down under the Tories, 60% increased for the

:12:58.:13:03.

disabled on our side. Finally, I welcome what the new Secretary of

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State had to say about starting a new conversation with the disabled.

:13:08.:13:11.

He has made a good start would be U-turn. Will he decide now that he

:13:12.:13:16.

will put an end to the divisive rhetoric that has characterised the

:13:17.:13:20.

approach of this government over the last few years? Will he stand up for

:13:21.:13:24.

a fair and progressive renewal of our welfare state. The system of

:13:25.:13:27.

support that should be there for all of us when we need it. The new

:13:28.:13:32.

Secretary of State stands at a crossroads today. It can choose the

:13:33.:13:37.

path drawn by his predecessor to cut the incomes of the disabled, to

:13:38.:13:41.

defend the illegal veteran tax, to take money away from working

:13:42.:13:45.

families through universal credit, or you can choose the path less

:13:46.:13:51.

trodden by secretaries of state. He can traverse the ESA cut, scrap the

:13:52.:13:56.

hated bedroom tax. He could truly speak in favour of disabled people,

:13:57.:14:01.

the poor and the vulnerable in our society. Among the many

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extraordinary truth spoken by his predecessor yesterday, was the

:14:09.:14:11.

shameful admission that these two nation Tories decided to cut

:14:12.:14:17.

benefits from people because they did not think they would vote for

:14:18.:14:24.

them. It was extraordinary, it was shameful. And the new Secretary of

:14:25.:14:30.

State for Work and Pensions will have a hell of a job on his hands to

:14:31.:14:38.

wash that stand out. -- stain. Let me start by saying the same to the

:14:39.:14:46.

honourable member for his welcoming remarks. It is good to renew the

:14:47.:14:53.

relationship with him, and has culminated so happily for me. On May

:14:54.:14:56.

the 7th last year when he had to crawl up and explain why the Labour

:14:57.:15:04.

Party had lost Cardiff North. Hear, hear! But I am very happy to be

:15:05.:15:12.

partnered with them again across the dispatch box once again. He has lost

:15:13.:15:17.

none of his usual spiky style if I may say and he retains what I

:15:18.:15:21.

described when he was doing the shadow Welsh job as a rather

:15:22.:15:26.

pantomime anger approach. LAUGHTER

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he asked me... He asked me about my right honourable friend, the Member

:15:34.:15:44.

for chamfered and Woodford Green. I was very proud and am very proud to

:15:45.:15:48.

have served in a government with the right honourable member from

:15:49.:15:53.

Woodford Green. He has a superb record as a social reformer. His

:15:54.:15:57.

record over the last six years compares any day of the week with

:15:58.:16:01.

the record of previous labour government when it comes to welfare

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reform. There was a time when the party opposite views to speak the

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language of Welfare Reform Bill. There was a time when they liked to

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pretend that they understood that benefits system that traps people in

:16:14.:16:17.

poverty is not a benefits system based on compassion and fairness.

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And a time when they took that language was a time when the British

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public consider them as a serious prospect voted for government. That

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was a long time ago. I have no intention of repeating my statement

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word for word, I thought it was crystal clear actually about the

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fact that we are not proceeding with the proposed changes to PIPs. I am

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sorry if he was not listening enough. We are offering real support

:16:49.:16:52.

for disabled people in real terms over the lifetime of this

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Parliament. It is simply not true for the member to stand there at the

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Can I congratulate my right not.

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Can I congratulate my right honourable friend on his appointment

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and can I join with him in paying tribute to the right honourable

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member from Woodford Green. He spent many years bringing passion and

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commitment and dedication to his post as work and pensions Secretary

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and he will be sorely missed. Can I say that I am delighted that the

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Secretary of State is going to take the opportunity of this current

:17:42.:17:47.

focus to open his dialogue with disabled people and disabled groups.

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Can I ask him if he would look particularly at how the welfare

:17:53.:17:56.

system works for those people with autism? I very much hope that he

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will agree to meet with me and the national autistic Society and

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members of the parliamentary group for autism to discuss how the

:18:04.:18:08.

welfare system can really work well for this very important and

:18:09.:18:15.

sometimes deserted group of people? I thank my honourable friend for

:18:16.:18:20.

that question. I am very familiar with the excellent work that she and

:18:21.:18:23.

other members of the House from both sides have done with the all party

:18:24.:18:29.

group for autism and I do want to involve them and include them in the

:18:30.:18:32.

discussions we are now having and I should put on record, the fantastic

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work that my honourable friend the Minister for disabled has already

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been doing in working with disability groups and charities. We

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want to include the right honourable members from the all party in those

:18:47.:18:56.

discussions. Can I welcome the new could Secretary of State in his role

:18:57.:18:59.

and thank him for advanced reading of his statement. I think he knows

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he is inheriting an almighty mess and as that debacle has unfolded, as

:19:04.:19:07.

having untold consequences, not just for those who depend on personal

:19:08.:19:13.

payments but those set to lose ?30 a week in ESA. And those affected to

:19:14.:19:22.

cut to the work allowances under the new universal credit. The thousands

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of mostly disabled people who are already affected by the bedroom tax

:19:27.:19:31.

and of course the women born in the 1950s who have had the goalposts

:19:32.:19:35.

shifted relentlessly on pension. The government propose taking a further

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45 ?3 billion out of the pockets of disabled people in order to fund tax

:19:41.:19:45.

cuts for the wealthiest. Even by their own standards, that is a new

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low. So I am glad they have been forced into backtracking on this

:19:50.:19:55.

latest round of cuts on PIP but problems with the policy are more

:19:56.:19:59.

fundamental. The role of PIP has failed to meet the government's own

:20:00.:20:03.

implementation projects and has been delayed. They have missed almost

:20:04.:20:08.

every single opportunity to sort of the fiasco around implementation of

:20:09.:20:13.

universal credit. They're cuts have butchered the very aspects of

:20:14.:20:17.

universal credit that might have created a work incentives. Instead

:20:18.:20:21.

they have hammered local workers, especially the little children. I

:20:22.:20:26.

said last week that the government's way of austerity of the political

:20:27.:20:29.

choice even that has meant heartless and careless disregard of disabled

:20:30.:20:34.

people, those same people have become pawns in an increasingly

:20:35.:20:40.

bitter Tory Civil War. Parts of the Social Security system including PIP

:20:41.:20:43.

are said to be divulged to the Scottish Parliament yet today, there

:20:44.:20:48.

has been wholly inadequate consultation and engagement with

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ministers ahead of these changes coming into effect. Can I urge the

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Secretary of State to use this opportunity to go back to the

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drawing board, not just on PIP but on the wider social security reform

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agenda, including the cuts to ESA and work allowances. Will he meet

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with disabled people and work with them and will he meet with me and my

:21:08.:21:11.

colleagues to identify more constructive ways forward in the

:21:12.:21:20.

future? I thank the honourable Lady for her series of questions and she

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lists a number of very specific issues, all of which are ones I have

:21:24.:21:30.

inherited in the department. I do not recognise the description of

:21:31.:21:34.

what she said of my inheritance. But when I arrived in the House

:21:35.:21:37.

yesterday and again today what I did inherit was an amazingly committed,

:21:38.:21:43.

passionate, capable group of civil servants, an amazing team of

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ministers as well who share a real determination to work together in

:21:48.:21:51.

unity to carry on reforming welfare. On the specific issue of Scotland, I

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have actually checked this one out already and actually, the working

:21:57.:21:59.

relationships in the department, both in ministerial and out at

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official level with Scottish Government are very positive and

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constructive, it is something I want to look at and I will be doing a

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visit up to Scotland and we can maybe carry on with the discussion

:22:09.:22:11.

about the devolved powers that Scottish will be getting. May I add

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my congratulations to my right honourable friend in welcome and

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into his new post. Would he agree with me that disagree with --

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disability is an umbrella term and at one end of the spectrum there are

:22:32.:22:34.

those with very serious disabilities for whom it is impossible to be

:22:35.:22:38.

independent but the under ended the spectrum, there are many as

:22:39.:22:43.

abilities which should not preclude people from finding employment.

:22:44.:22:46.

Isn't it right to focus spending on that group to help them gain skills

:22:47.:22:52.

and lead a productive life? I thank my right honourable friend for her

:22:53.:22:57.

question and for her warm and generous remarks. She is right and

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the point that she makes, disability is a term that covers an immensely

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varied a range of issues. And people with different challenges in their

:23:10.:23:13.

life. I think the changes we have been making to focus resources, the

:23:14.:23:19.

most of resources on the most vulnerable is absolutely right but

:23:20.:23:24.

also to increase the resources from 60 million ?200 million as part of

:23:25.:23:29.

the ESA changes and help Morris people achieve the aspiration moving

:23:30.:23:31.

into the workplace. -- help more people. Can I welcome the secretary

:23:32.:23:37.

stated the dispatch box today. Doing what we can, the officials brief

:23:38.:23:42.

them on what has happened on his department's budget with people

:23:43.:23:47.

being singled out for cuts but within those cuts, the pension

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budget has been protected. Not only protected, but has risen by 11%. So

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all of the cuts have fallen on those of working age. Might I therefore

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ask him as he is now unsettled that it would be sheer farce if anybody

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moved against him but he looks very seriously against any further cuts

:24:13.:24:18.

to ESA claims. Not only because just demands that, but also he might have

:24:19.:24:21.

difficulties getting that through his backbenchers behind him? I think

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the honourable gentleman and in fact the chairman of select committee for

:24:28.:24:31.

his kind remarks and message he sent me at the weekend as well. I look

:24:32.:24:34.

forward to some constructive discussions with them over the

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months ahead. In the statement, I did make clear that we are not

:24:41.:24:46.

pursuing further welfare savings and we are not looking to offset any

:24:47.:24:52.

savings and replacement of the changes to PIP so I hope that makes

:24:53.:25:02.

that clear today. On Saturday morning I had remarkably well-timed

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visit to the branch to welcome them and to speak with their members. I

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got a lot of feedback but can my right honourable friend tell the

:25:16.:25:19.

House how intends to move forward his dialogue with disabled groups

:25:20.:25:25.

over the next few weeks? In response to the question from my honourable

:25:26.:25:29.

friend we are already in the process of setting up meetings with those

:25:30.:25:33.

organizations. As I said earlier I will be working on some fantastic

:25:34.:25:37.

things done by my honourable friend the Minister for the disabled. But I

:25:38.:25:41.

want to lead these discussions myself and find out what they are

:25:42.:25:44.

thinking and how best we can work with them. I think there's a lot of

:25:45.:25:47.

goodwill in the sector towards what we are trying to do, and recognise

:25:48.:25:51.

the long-term challenges of performing the sector. The help

:25:52.:25:56.

system works far better with employers and other things to

:25:57.:26:00.

achieve far better things for disabled people. That is in

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operation I hope all of us can Unite around. -- aspiration. The Secretary

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of State says there will be no further savings those legislated

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for. Does that mean no more cuts to meet the PIP cuts or does it mean

:26:18.:26:21.

not going ahead with the further 3 billion a year cuts to meet the

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welfare cap on page 26 of the Redbook published on Wednesday and

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given that he was part of the Cabinet that agreed to be Redbook

:26:34.:26:36.

published last Wednesday, can he tell the House whether he thinks the

:26:37.:26:41.

entire cabinet got it spectacularly wrong or just the Chancellor? I

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think I addressed the right honourable Lady's question very

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fully in my statement. I welcome my right honourable friend

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to his position. He is a good man and I think he would do a great job

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and he knows of course by the conservative party is a proud

:27:11.:27:14.

heritage of welfare reform, things like public health and social

:27:15.:27:18.

housing. If he is to have a debate though, surely the debate must also

:27:19.:27:23.

be about generational fairness. In my constituents who are saying

:27:24.:27:28.

welfare reductions, they cannot understand why yesterday we are

:27:29.:27:31.

intending to spend another ?900 million funding for Scotland and...

:27:32.:27:40.

Surely we need to refocus our priorities on those most needing

:27:41.:27:45.

across our country? My honourable friend makes an important point

:27:46.:27:50.

about intergenerational fairness. There is a discussion about that.

:27:51.:27:54.

The point I am making in response to my honourable friend is that if he

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looks super example of the changes being made to state pension, there

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is half ?1 trillion of savings being achieved because of those changes

:28:03.:28:06.

over the next 50 years so I think it is being spread across the

:28:07.:28:09.

generations but there is a debate to be had. Can I join in welcoming the

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Secretary of State to his new role and genuinely wish him all the best

:28:17.:28:19.

of luck. I suspect he realises he will need it. But is in the problem

:28:20.:28:24.

here that there is not a sense of unfairness. -- there is a sense of

:28:25.:28:29.

unfairness. The text for the better off in this budget at the same time

:28:30.:28:33.

as the burden falling on disabled people but it is also the fact that

:28:34.:28:38.

better off pensioners again, completely protected by this budget

:28:39.:28:42.

at the same time as working age people suffer another cut. Does he

:28:43.:28:47.

set himself completely against looking again at this problem of

:28:48.:28:49.

intergenerational fairness? My intention very simply is look at

:28:50.:28:58.

all of these questions with a fresh pair of eyes in the support of a

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fantastic team of ministers around me. This is a similar point made

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earlier and my answer is the same at this moment in time. May also

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congratulate my right honourable friend on his appointment I am also

:29:19.:29:23.

very glad that the government is not pursuing cuts to PIP, can I remind

:29:24.:29:33.

that his predecessors showed great empathy and assisted me greatly with

:29:34.:29:41.

a constituent who had very difficult concerns regarding her disability.

:29:42.:29:46.

Will my right honourable friend note that while pimple with disabilities

:29:47.:29:58.

-- people know how bit may impact them they are the experts. I

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completely agree. The NPV of my predecessor, he was a man who would

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spent years thinking about these problems in a very serious way. His

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legacy is one that we should always be proud of. The second point she

:30:18.:30:24.

makes is people who experienced these issues are the experts. We

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recognise that. In the end he is going to be judged by his actions.

:30:35.:30:38.

My constituents would like to know where he scrapped badger attacks,

:30:39.:30:43.

and the other cuts, and deal with the shameful treatment of older

:30:44.:30:49.

women and their pensions? If this is about judging by actions, I would

:30:50.:30:54.

happily stand by the record of this government. Every single day of the

:30:55.:30:59.

week mark against the record of previous Labour governments who

:31:00.:31:03.

allowed the benefits bill just by roll out of control but left a

:31:04.:31:07.

legacy of long-term unemployment, hundreds of thousands of people left

:31:08.:31:11.

without having worked a day in their life, with no support from the state

:31:12.:31:15.

to help them make the transition back into the workplace. I welcome

:31:16.:31:22.

the statement and a commitments you make to the house today. On Friday I

:31:23.:31:29.

visited the Adam trust as Mount industries. They're turning over ?1

:31:30.:31:33.

billion a year and currently employing nearly half their

:31:34.:31:37.

workforce, people who are disabled or have come off the disabled living

:31:38.:31:43.

allowance. This government is helping this company grow and it is

:31:44.:31:52.

happening create more jobs. Alongside the changes we need to

:31:53.:31:57.

make sure we have the jobs and the opportunities for people to come

:31:58.:32:02.

into the workforce. I agree with my Honorable friend that the Company

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she mentions is a great example is not one I've met purpose --

:32:07.:32:11.

personally but it is exactly the kind of organisation we want to see

:32:12.:32:14.

replicated in seeing growing throughout this country. The new

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Secretary of State talks about being a one nation conservative, what does

:32:23.:32:26.

that mean to the UK six to half million carers. Many of whom will be

:32:27.:32:33.

worried about losing their carers allowance. Those worries come on top

:32:34.:32:40.

of 60,000 family carriers haired -- hit by the bedroom tax. The

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Honorable Lady makes a really important point about the essential

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and vital role of carers. That is exactly why the government since

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2010 we have spent more than ?2 billion extra supporting carers but

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I would be happy to meet with her and other groups representing carers

:33:06.:33:11.

to learn about what we can do to help them. Can I warmly welcome my

:33:12.:33:19.

right honourable friend's appointments I know you'll respect

:33:20.:33:26.

the policy and legacy of his predecessor. We look that matters up

:33:27.:33:30.

a progression in this country, and the worthwhile pilots that his

:33:31.:33:35.

department is undertaking, he looks creatively and solutions across

:33:36.:33:38.

government with department business and health to ensure we are not just

:33:39.:33:43.

satisfied to get people into work, but to move them through the pay

:33:44.:33:45.

scales to sustainable independent living. That is a really important

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point, he is very knowledgeable about these issues. It is not just a

:33:54.:33:59.

question of Seymour disabled people into work, we want to see them

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earning higher wages as well. I wasn't previously a whale -- aware.

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My honourable friend was being generous. We have not heard a change

:34:17.:34:21.

of town today. We're hanging precisely what we heard under the

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previous Secretary of State. The new Secretary of State is the patron, if

:34:27.:34:31.

you seriously telling us in his listening exercises that what they

:34:32.:34:39.

would recognise is that the previous entry of state and directed to be

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proud of. Many transform disabled peoples lives. And he did a good job

:34:44.:34:54.

as Secretary of State. I'm not sure of the honourable member knows

:34:55.:35:01.

anyone from temperature as Pembrokeshire. They're a special

:35:02.:35:08.

group of people and I'm proud to know them. Mickey directly to

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Secretary of State on his recent appointment and Kai also say that it

:35:16.:35:18.

is good to see Welsh MPs in the marsh. In this government there are

:35:19.:35:27.

300,000 more disabled people in this employment. There is more important

:35:28.:35:36.

work to be done in this area. My honourable friend is exactly right,

:35:37.:35:40.

that really is the issue at the heart of the statements before the

:35:41.:35:43.

House today. We want to see society do a much better job at supporting

:35:44.:35:48.

disabled people, making a move into work. We had a commitments to have

:35:49.:35:56.

that disability gap that exists. We must work across different sectors.

:35:57.:36:09.

The Secretary of State (INAUDIBLE) He is not a position to lecture the

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house on a decent society. They voted to cut tax credits, and she

:36:16.:36:21.

the natural checks, and we're sharing the cuts now... Is what

:36:22.:36:29.

about providing support about those in greatest need, the public that is

:36:30.:36:33.

that that excuse only works once. If you have a disability the chances

:36:34.:36:36.

are you're not going to get cured from it. Can he guarantee from the

:36:37.:36:41.

house today that those in receipt of it will not have to reapply for

:36:42.:36:47.

because disability is so severe. The honourable gentleman raised a number

:36:48.:36:56.

of issues there. It was quite clear on some of the changes making some

:36:57.:37:00.

of we are not any longer aspirations. It is just day one for

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me so he will forgive me if I'm not quite on top of all the specific

:37:08.:37:15.

issues would want talk about. Welcome to the new Secretary of

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State. Hear, hear! Thank you to the government for their rethink. That

:37:24.:37:36.

4400 people since January 1994, what step brother taking to make sure his

:37:37.:37:43.

everything is accessible to all and they will have help when they need

:37:44.:37:49.

it? That is an important point about communications for people who are

:37:50.:37:54.

disabled. Within the departments set up a task force to look at this

:37:55.:38:00.

issue including organizations like the British deaf Association and

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others. I congratulate the Secretary of State on his appointment. I hope

:38:09.:38:15.

his commitment will include a more inclusive listening approach. A more

:38:16.:38:22.

positive set of outcomes for disabled people unlike of the zeal

:38:23.:38:27.

of his predecessor. Can I ask the Secretary of State, given that we

:38:28.:38:33.

now have 4.4 billion gap in the Redbook, whereas a member of the

:38:34.:38:39.

government, where will the government finds that money and if

:38:40.:38:42.

it is from the welfare budget, which parts of the budget will be taken? I

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think I would say the missionary zeal of my predecessor is a really

:38:52.:38:54.

important Carly when you're trying to get the changes achieved

:38:55.:39:02.

Whitehall. There's a lot when he to be proud of what comes to his

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achievements. The savings that you mentioned, we do have another debate

:39:08.:39:12.

for the budget tomorrow and the Chancellor will be speaking about

:39:13.:39:16.

this very issue. For absolute clarity, the government has no lands

:39:17.:39:19.

to make further reductions from welfare expenditure. The Secretary

:39:20.:39:27.

of State may be aware from the recent recommendations

:39:28.:39:28.

independent mental health commission to the government which I believe

:39:29.:39:33.

the government has accepted. Which is to put more money into the

:39:34.:39:37.

supporting those in mental health problems to get back into the

:39:38.:39:42.

workplace. A totally new and radical approach to ensuring people with

:39:43.:39:46.

mental health conditions can lead productive lives and get back into

:39:47.:39:51.

the workplace. The issue of supporting people with mental health

:39:52.:39:56.

issues, we have debated many times, there is recognition across both

:39:57.:40:00.

sides that as a society we this is all that we have not gotten right in

:40:01.:40:04.

the past. We're determined to improve on it. We are currently

:40:05.:40:11.

undertaking ?43 million of pilot projects providing individual

:40:12.:40:14.

tailored support, face support, group work, I'm a telephone support,

:40:15.:40:25.

and other services. Many thanks Mr Speaker. The Secretary of State has

:40:26.:40:28.

indicated the same people are themselves placed to inform them of

:40:29.:40:35.

their needs. I would urge him to have a meeting where he can address

:40:36.:40:42.

the changes outlined and listen to disabled people's concerns. With the

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Secretary of State confirm that he will attend this meeting? Gas. I

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very much like to attend the group at my honourable friend is

:40:55.:40:59.

whispering in my ear does excellent work. Does my right honourable

:41:00.:41:09.

friend who was brought up by a devoted single mum, facilitator of

:41:10.:41:17.

support for those looking for work but those looking for disabilities

:41:18.:41:19.

and without that so many more parents are finding good jobs and a

:41:20.:41:26.

better support their family? Some of the most impressive people I meet

:41:27.:41:30.

week in and week out are single mothers. We're doing far more than

:41:31.:41:36.

ever before to support people in the circumstances and realising

:41:37.:41:41.

ambitions and moving it to work and really achieving some quite exciting

:41:42.:41:50.

things in their careers. The tentative 40,000 disabled people

:41:51.:41:53.

will be relieved to hear the announcement this afternoon. Can he

:41:54.:41:59.

reassured me that those cuts will never be reintroduced by the

:42:00.:42:07.

government again? The honourable lady and members opposite today are

:42:08.:42:11.

trying to tease out a commitment from this side of the chamber, that

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we will never ever be any other changes to welfare spending again.

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That would be absurd. We know that there needs to carry on being

:42:24.:42:27.

performed. The commitment that I'm making today, the commitment that

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I'm making today is based on conversations, that we are not going

:42:38.:42:42.

ahead with those cuts. We will not be seeking offset savings and for

:42:43.:42:55.

the cities in the welfare budget. He is a one nation moderate

:42:56.:43:00.

conservative from the tips of his toes to the end of his beard. What

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my right elbow friend except for me, that there is still a huge amount of

:43:12.:43:17.

anxiety from employers are bringing disabled people into the workplace.

:43:18.:43:21.

Would he work with our group and others to ensure employers across

:43:22.:43:29.

the country are aware of the huge opportunities and benefits that they

:43:30.:43:34.

can bring to their enterprises? There really should be nervous this

:43:35.:43:39.

part of employers that should not be. I had the pleasure of

:43:40.:43:47.

participating in some of their work and my previous ministerial role. It

:43:48.:43:54.

too is a really excellent work. New and innovative ways to ensure the

:43:55.:44:00.

scheme which is medium-size enterprises and support more

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employers and hiring disabled people. Mr Speaker we have heard for

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almost three hours from the treasury Minister, Prime Minister, in the

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Secretary of State. This than I had an answer from the direct question,

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when -- where is that ?4 billion coming from. Other the other side

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does not know or they do not want to tell us. We have explored this issue

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in depth. For a long time. LAUGHTER They will be further opportunity

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tomorrow in the budget debate. Let me just repeat, the commitment that

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I have made today that we will not be pressing ahead with the proposed

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cuts, will not be seeking alternative savings, and the

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government does not have plans for further welfare savings. I welcome

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my right honourable friend to his new role. A ray of sunshine after

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what is considered to be a bleak view dates. Is expected to meet the

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extra costs of disability and those costs have been rising rapidly. Can

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I get reading recommendation which looks at how government can both

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reduce and work with the private sector to reduce those extra costs

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to make sure it does go further. I think my honourable friend from his

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kind remarks, I try to be a ray of sunshine if I can. Grateful for the

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reading recommendation and I'll make it a priority. The Secretary of

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State is doing an excellent job at avoiding answering the question.

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Where will the 4.4 billion be found, if it is not from the welfare bill,

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does he know where they will be found? I am genuinely puzzled as to

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why members on the benches opposite cannot listen and follow the

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arguments we are making. We have repeated the position of the

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government, and I'm sorry if she was not listening to the statement

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earlier but I think it was very clear. Can I welcome the Secretary

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of State to his new position. His personal background and experience

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means he knows the benefit of an extractive welfare system. Kenny

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also ensure me that he is going to continue his predecessor's work at

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getting people back into work of the last couple of years. At the end of

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the day work and having an effective situation and welfare system is true

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social justice than just the numbers bandied about by the opposition. At

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292,000 that he mentioned, that is 292,000 disabled people that made

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the transition with lots of support from the different initiatives from

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the government back into work. That is a terrific record. A complacent.

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If we're going to that manifesto Thomas of having -- cutting in half

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the disappointment -- disability employment gap. He faces a huge

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challenge and leaves a huge challenge behind him. With respect

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of the Wales Bill he was free. I welcome his commitment to

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reassessing the conversation with disabled people. It changes to PIP

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suggested 105 cases of the more than 600,000 people depend on PIP. With

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the guarantee that before further changes to welfare are proposed

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there'll be proper independent research publicly available

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beforehand? The kind of research he talks about is already being

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published. There is a duty on government departments to publish

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impact assessments. A conduct their policymaking in an open interest

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Paraguay. -- transparent way. We should look again but really

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challenging list of issues. It should be transparent, open, and

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based on sound evidence. Before coming up to London this afternoon I

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have one of my regular surgeries in my constituency. What are my

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constituents was a disabled lady who was in work but wanted support from

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her employer and support finding new work. The practical steps with the

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Secretary of State make with disability groups, and employers to

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ensure we cut in half the does it ability employment gap. To reassure

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employers and support them and making good decisions about

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recruiting and hiring disabled people. We have a really important

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initiative within my department, access to work, we need to publicise

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that a lot more. We need to get more employers looking at that and

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accessing that. We were all pleased to hear the Secretary of State say

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we have no further plans to make welfare savings than those already

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legislated for. Could the Secretary of State guarantee that there will

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be no reductions in rates or eligibility criteria for any Social

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Security benefits in this Parliament? The statement was very

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clear, but I would say to the Honorable Lady that the changes she

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is ascribing would be cuts to people's benefits. That is not

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something we're looking at at this moment in time. Can I congratulate

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my honourable friend on his appointment. No one more appropriate

:50:38.:50:46.

to take on the performing agenda. Ten asked him what his department is

:50:47.:50:51.

doing for disabled entrepreneurs and to remind him not to forget those

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entrepreneurs who are disabled? There are some amazing examples of

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disabled people who set up successful businesses. Add pleasure

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of meeting them. We need to be backing them. Schemes like access to

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work are a really important part of that. I welcome the Secretary of

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State to his place and also welcome the retreat that he has been

:51:27.:51:33.

credited with. It the Secretary of State to use his new-found power to

:51:34.:51:37.

press the treasury into for the retreat on cuts to the ESA and

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properly funded the white paper on health and work to the previously

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committed 100 million. Any commitment his predecessor made last

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week of having it published before the summer. The changes to ESA have

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been debated at length, numerous occasions in this house members have

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had opportunity to vote on them. The other things he mentioned I will

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look at and will be in touch. Can I welcome my right honourable friend

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to his new position. I can think of no other honourable member in this

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house they could bring more compassion and empathy to this role.

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Does he agree with me that a fair welfare system should not just be

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about numbers? Is about human beings, and I made that point in my

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opening statement. That is something that nudges in the area of welfare

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but in all of the statistic that we talk about. There are lives and

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families and individuals behind the statistics. It is especially

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important in the area of welfare and disability that are human beings

:52:51.:52:58.

that we are talking about. As is pointed out by the right honourable

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friend, page 26 of the Redbook commits the government to ?3 million

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of cuts and new welfare cap. It is not what his predecessor referred to

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as being too narrowly focused on getting the deficit down. Can he

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tell us is the 3 billion going to be honoured and how is he going to

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deliver that? With a very direct answer to that direct question. That

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direct answer is the one I've been giving all afternoon. Government

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will not be seeking further savings in the welfare budget. One of the

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major problems that disabled people face is the prejudice in society it

:53:49.:53:52.

talks about what they cannot do other than what they can do. What my

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right honourable friend set out what he is going to do leading the

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department to change that attitude to be concentrating on what people

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can do that was they cannot. The can-do principal is so important. Is

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that the heart of everything we are trying to achieve and all of our

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welfare reforms. This is the central understanding that my honourable

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friend brought to that department. Along with that sense of mission and

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purpose. In the area of disability is to get people to focus on what

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they can do. A genuinely cannot work with need to reorient resources so

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that those that are most preferable get the most resources. He would do

:54:41.:54:47.

well to recognise that there are a lot of upset and unsettled,

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concerned disabled people. They heard the Chancellor on Wednesday

:54:54.:54:58.

and were very concerned indeed. He wants to reset the conversation,

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doesn't he think he would do well to apologise for this appalling upset

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and the sense that they have been upset of this period over the recent

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days. Would he use the word sorry? This is not a particularly fruitful

:55:18.:55:19.

line of questioning from the honourable member. I made it very

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clear statement about what I'm trying to achieve in day one in this

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new role. If he is looking for apologies, look to the front bench

:55:33.:55:39.

of his own party. Ask them for an apology for the state, scandalous

:55:40.:55:42.

state that elected public finances in 2010. I congratulate the

:55:43.:55:52.

Secretary of State in his appointment, but also to pay tribute

:55:53.:55:55.

to the right honourable member for his previous work. A good welfare

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system is an important safety net. It sure route out of poverty is

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education and work. They need to raise the lowest paid by increasing

:56:10.:56:16.

the tax threshold and introducing a living wage. At some of that grew up

:56:17.:56:21.

in a poor area of Labour controlled south London, the lack of aspiration

:56:22.:56:26.

is as evident today as I was in the 70s. And you want a lecture about

:56:27.:56:35.

poverty, ask Labour if you want something done ask conservatives?

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With their own upbringing, with her other work, has far more

:56:44.:56:46.

understanding in real-life terms of working with vulnerable people.

:56:47.:56:52.

People that need the state that people that are displaying this

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afternoon on the opposite benches. We Secretary of State says read my

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lips, he says no more cuts to welfare it does not include the huge

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cuts to Social Security spending that have already been agreed but

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not yet implemented. The government website says if you are ill or

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disabled there is allowance is to support you. Last week the Secretary

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of State as a government minister that people were allowed to work. I

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think the honourable lady is referring to an error that was on my

:57:31.:57:33.

constituency a Facebook page that has been corrected. I welcome my

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right I will try to his position. His decision to go even further to

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ask us to work. We will be holding a job fair in my constituency and I

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would hope the Secretary of State would come to my constituency to see

:57:57.:58:01.

businesses employing a large number of disabled people. Colleagues of

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mine across the side of the house have got a fantastic track record in

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the last five years of running jobs fairs. They put themselves at the

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vanguard of the great turnaround of the end of appointment situation.

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About 50 colleagues have been doing these already. I would love to

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attend his. What are the big challenges the new Secretary of

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State will have is that most civil servants or employees of the

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Department of working pensions. 40% of tax credits many of the security

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benefits. Will he commit to when he is at limiting Social Security

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reform and publish an impact assessment as it affects the

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employees, and will he I think the department I would have

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a very good record in terms of pay and conditions. 80,000 people

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working in an apartment, right across every part of the UK. About

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added pleasure of meeting a few of them. I'll will be getting out and

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many far more in the days and weeks ahead. We'll look at it again, but a

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duty of the department are ready to deliver impact assessment. The

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welfare state is a safety net, if that safety net be sustainable in a

:59:25.:59:28.

long time, when the sound economic policy to fund it, but also work to

:59:29.:59:33.

challenge some of the underlying causes that people find themselves

:59:34.:59:37.

in that myth. Will be Secretary of State Board to assist across

:59:38.:59:41.

government, with drug addiction and Apple hall addiction and of the

:59:42.:59:48.

family breakdown challenges? He raises an important point. There has

:59:49.:59:51.

not been raised in the debate so far. Working with people with drug

:59:52.:59:55.

and alcohol problems is something that this government is focused on.

:59:56.:59:59.

Appointed as a work that is going on with the troubled families

:00:00.:00:03.

programme, it really is the key to creating lasting pathways at a

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property. Not just increasing jobs, but also supporting people with the

:00:08.:00:09.

underlying conditions that prevent them into work. -- Adam property.

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The new Secretary of State was keen to behind every statistic, there

:00:18.:00:22.

will be a human being. There are 1586 human banks in my constituency,

:00:23.:00:29.

but also understand the ability and disability. 30,000 people with

:00:30.:00:33.

disabilities lost the most ability claymation. What is he going to do

:00:34.:00:41.

to make sure that Montebello the does not disappear down the

:00:42.:00:48.

plughole? It is not decreasing, or disappearing. The numbers of people

:00:49.:00:54.

benefiting from mobility are increasing, not decreasing. I

:00:55.:01:01.

welcome my friend to his position. Like its predecessor, he said a

:01:02.:01:08.

commitment to social justice and empathy that one out of his personal

:01:09.:01:12.

experience. I have been working with local residents to set up a support

:01:13.:01:16.

group for sufferers of epilepsy. There are over 600,000 people with

:01:17.:01:20.

this condition in the country, yet many of them still encountered

:01:21.:01:22.

insensitivity and prejudice in society. Was that that the

:01:23.:01:25.

government taking to write awareness in schools and in the workplace so

:01:26.:01:31.

that the stigma is smashed? My friend is a powerful voice on behalf

:01:32.:01:38.

of many global groups to her work in this place. The issue epilepsy is so

:01:39.:01:42.

fanatical to her horror and the hearts of other honourable members.

:01:43.:01:45.

I look forward to having discussions about public about a justice issue.

:01:46.:01:50.

That's important to her and other members.

:01:51.:01:51.

tax cutter slasher and/ or NFL. The shipping be tried for disability

:01:52.:01:58.

benefits in that plan failed. The House wants to know, who was next.

:01:59.:02:03.

At the Chancellor of ejector told him that his budget is now set to

:02:04.:02:09.

rise. By four for duplicate? -- Chancellor of Exchequer. Spending on

:02:10.:02:16.

welfare fraud and, the budget is increasing. That's welfare is

:02:17.:02:21.

rising. The government did not have plans for further welfare state XP

:02:22.:02:25.

job that which are putting parliament has voted to focusing on

:02:26.:02:31.

implementing. And I congratulate my right, friend on his appointment and

:02:32.:02:37.

on statement. In May, he and I said in a manifesto stood to protect

:02:38.:02:40.

pensions and benefits. Cannot say how much I am sure that under his

:02:41.:02:45.

stewardship, there will be no backsliding in our commitment to

:02:46.:02:50.

other people. The commitments in the promises that we met in a manifesto

:02:51.:02:54.

were clear and where a government that is absolutely focused on

:02:55.:02:57.

delivering on the promises they can be the commitments that we have made

:02:58.:03:04.

to the British people. The budget cuts in capital gains tax supported

:03:05.:03:07.

the wealthiest in the country was paid for by spending cuts to the

:03:08.:03:11.

most disadvantaged and our society. And it was a moral, that my member

:03:12.:03:19.

said he could not watch passively while such divisive policy targeted

:03:20.:03:26.

non-Tory voters. -- M ore. Why the so craven, so came, to introduce

:03:27.:03:31.

such of their policies? -- unfair policy. I would say to him, the

:03:32.:03:39.

capital gains tax, either with the changes we are making, will still be

:03:40.:03:43.

2% higher than it was left by the previous labor government. He is

:03:44.:03:50.

always walk to talk social justice. He is the right person for the job.

:03:51.:03:58.

He emphasised the human dimension and as he reflects on the additional

:03:59.:04:02.

cost of disabled people, which is reflected in personal independence

:04:03.:04:06.

payments and social care, housing, and the national health service,

:04:07.:04:09.

look forward and work some future reform, will he do to get all the

:04:10.:04:20.

packages? It makes a important point, which is at the heart as when

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I was trying to come and get in my statement. If we are serious about

:04:24.:04:26.

breaking down these very long-term barriers to people moving for

:04:27.:04:32.

disability into work, why the pink and new ways. But more creative and

:04:33.:04:39.

effective. Health care, employment, education. We have a big challenge

:04:40.:04:42.

ahead of us. Well to bring in some fresh thinking and a new approach.

:04:43.:04:48.

That's what I hope to bring. To be clear, that and the Secretary of

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State confirm than that the ?4 billion in the print book and people

:04:53.:04:56.

have talked about in the out of statement will have to be found by

:04:57.:05:02.

somebody else's department, not his? -- four -- red book. Questions that

:05:03.:05:06.

should go to the Chancellor. He will have the opportunity tomorrow to put

:05:07.:05:13.

those new to the Chancellor of the Exchequer. This is a statement about

:05:14.:05:17.

my apartment, my budget, and the statement is extremely clear. That's

:05:18.:05:20.

my department. We are not pressing ahead with the proposed changes to

:05:21.:05:25.

tip, will not be seeking alternative savings, and the government will not

:05:26.:05:29.

be coming forward with proposals for welfare segments. -- PIP. Sorry to

:05:30.:05:38.

disappoint, before we come to... This is a rarity, my objective is

:05:39.:05:44.

always to get in every college. Every rule has been excessive. I

:05:45.:05:47.

hope colleagues will understand. I do have to move on. And that element

:05:48.:05:52.

of rough justice when that happens. We will shortly proceed, before I've

:05:53.:05:57.

taken point of order. That's not before. Before the second STB

:05:58.:06:07.

December, he said in a statement, the government would not be seeking

:06:08.:06:10.

future savings and the welfare budget. However, treasury sources

:06:11.:06:14.

have been briefing to the Sun newspaper during the course of the

:06:15.:06:20.

statement, that is that what he meant. What he means there are no

:06:21.:06:27.

planned increases. In this problem, could you tell us which one it is?

:06:28.:06:32.

Order excellent the gentleman raised its concerns under the guise, within

:06:33.:06:43.

the clothing, of an attempted point of order. As he knows, and his brand

:06:44.:06:50.

really testifies to his awareness of this point, that is not a matter for

:06:51.:06:55.

the chair. If he is the teaching the Secretary of State to come and on

:06:56.:07:00.

the point of order, he is entitled soul to two seats. The Secretary of

:07:01.:07:04.

State can do so if he wishes. That should be seen. He is not under any

:07:05.:07:11.

obligation to do so. The Secretary of State is living at that, which he

:07:12.:07:14.

is entitled to do. I think the gentleman for his statement and his

:07:15.:07:19.

responses to questions. I'll come to the right Honorable Lady. I'm saving

:07:20.:07:25.

her up. It will be worth waiting for. A point of order. Further to

:07:26.:07:32.

that point, if the Secretary of State has been put in an impossible

:07:33.:07:37.

position by the treasury, and may have an individually use misleading

:07:38.:07:43.

language to the house, does the speaker not think that the way to

:07:44.:07:46.

clear this up was to be for the Chancellor to come to the house and

:07:47.:07:51.

make a full statement in which we can ask questions, rather than

:07:52.:07:57.

simply close in the end of a debate? To the house, only that I have no

:07:58.:08:02.

knowledge had no way of possessing knowledge as to what is or is not

:08:03.:08:06.

being briefed to a particular newspaper at a given time. To meet

:08:07.:08:12.

the concerns of the right Honorable Lady, the Chancellor will be in the

:08:13.:08:17.

house tomorrow. I understand that he is wanting a of the debate, but it

:08:18.:08:20.

is customary for a minister winding up to attend most of it. There'll be

:08:21.:08:26.

opportunity for colleagues to air their concerns, beyond that, I hope

:08:27.:08:33.

to understand that if I say I preferred not to entertain

:08:34.:08:36.

hypothetical situation. I always thought that Lord what Lott was out

:08:37.:08:40.

with a set on the whole, he preferred not to cross bridges, and

:08:41.:08:50.

till he came to them. One of order. The Secretary of State says he want

:08:51.:08:54.

to listen to disabled people. A case at the moment and the Supreme Court,

:08:55.:09:03.

constituents and the second, and the High Court to be exempted from the

:09:04.:09:07.

double pack. That is now the Supreme Court. If they want to listen to

:09:08.:09:10.

disabled people, perhaps he can listen to his own constituents and

:09:11.:09:19.

nail to that extension. Order! I do wish gently to reprove the

:09:20.:09:25.

unrelated, not too gently. The shadow Secretary of State made at

:09:26.:09:30.

least a halfhearted attempt to conceal his political observation

:09:31.:09:35.

within a guys alive on order. No such attempt at disguise on the part

:09:36.:09:41.

of the lady. The point may have not been valid. It could've been related

:09:42.:09:45.

to a case that was, but what else may be a bit, and not a matter for

:09:46.:09:49.

the chair. We will leave it there for today. She has her point

:09:50.:09:54.

director. We will proceed at that we've heard the point of order. Your

:09:55.:10:03.

for defending the rights of packages and any juror bias. That you are

:10:04.:10:07.

well known for. Defending the rights of a small group of packages. In the

:10:08.:10:12.

light of emotion which is on the order paper today. That's motion.

:10:13.:10:19.

The opposition party in the government are whipped against his

:10:20.:10:24.

group of packages because they do small group that represents the

:10:25.:10:27.

interests of the constituencies that live along longer brewed of agents

:10:28.:10:36.

to. HS2 is a bill of some 470 pages, as taken six years to come to

:10:37.:10:42.

fruition, get the government has seen fit, only to tables for third

:10:43.:10:48.

reading and report states, two hours on report states, and one hour on

:10:49.:10:55.

the third reading. Only a half a day's debate, which if people wish

:10:56.:10:57.

to have the amendments voted on, will mean that it is almost

:10:58.:11:03.

impossible to have any reasonable debate. Mr Speaker, the amendments

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that are down cover tunneling, to help the book of all validate the

:11:11.:11:19.

structure process, the subcontractors, speed limitations,

:11:20.:11:22.

compensation for local authorities, environmental provisions and

:11:23.:11:26.

safeguards, and compensation issues covering constituents and local

:11:27.:11:29.

issues that cover both members that sit on the other side of the house

:11:30.:11:34.

constituencies, and my own and many others. Several of the entries that

:11:35.:11:40.

have been affected by this. Have expressed dismay. That's several

:11:41.:11:46.

MPs. That was to have such a short time to look at these important

:11:47.:11:51.

issue. May I ask what we can do, because at the moment, there is no

:11:52.:11:56.

point in voting against the cynics motion tonight, both parties are

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with against it. I think people looking at this house, would think

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that the process of democracy is dead, when MPs defending their

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constituents interests cannot even get a hold date on a 56 white

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elephant. That's whole day. -- 50 ?6 billion. I think ever giving me

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notice. Earthen tones about this bill are well known. She referred to

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constituencies about the line of root, animation and passing that my

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own constituency situation is well known to her. -- line of route. She

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has referenced the motion that the government has tables, that business

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of the motion on the day's order paper does allocate time to the

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remaining stages, and she has complained about what she regards is

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the total and adequacy of that time. I'm afraid she also knows, such

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emotions are not within the preserve of the chair. -- such emotions.

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There is nothing that the chair can do on that matter. It is up to the

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house whether to agree to that motion, however, I simply add the

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benefit of her, and those interested in these matters, if the motion is

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breached, after 10pm, it cannot be debated but can be agreed tonight,

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only if there is no objection. I am not a seer, I cannot see how events

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play out. Given what time it is, and the fact that we have two front

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bridge speeches that we are about to hear, and some dozens of colleagues

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which to get the house of the views of the budget, it seems at least

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highly probable that the motion will not be priest until after ten

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o'clock. At the point at which it is preached, I feel sure that she will

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be in her place and she will note that she thinks she should do.

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That's when it is true. We'd junk that, she have a chat with the

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Secretary of State for Transport. And the flood her intellect and time

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to try to secure an improvement. -- and to the bladder. Because it is

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her, I feel I must take it. I thank him for that piece of information.

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I've already deployed my intellect in time, it has failed work. In that

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case, I can't abide the browsable lady and anybody else who feels that

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she does, only as I have just done, it is not for me to tell the House

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had a boat. I'm simply that's how the boat. All I am doing is saying,

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this is the position procedure leave, and as goes into the

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situation with open eyes. If she was to be here, close to and beyond

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10pm, she knows what I'm telling her is not opinion, but based on sound

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procedure of advice. I think we better leave it there. Ways and

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means, a joint debate on question. The question is on the order paper.

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Before I call the Secretary of State, I simply point out that there

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are some dozens of colleagues who would like to speak in the debate,

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but will have to be a tight time limit on the backbench speeches. I

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know the secretary and the shadow, very considerate members, I want to

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treat the issues and that domain, what also want to facilitate

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contributions by colleagues. Secretary Greg Clark. Nobody can

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pretend this has been a aged budget for the government. That's been a

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easy budget. None of the are. Every single one of them is overshadowed

:16:28.:16:30.

by the events of the previous decade. By the deepest recession

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since the war. By financial and fiscal crisis when a large part of

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our national wealth disappeared in a puff of that. GDP, productivity, and

:16:42.:16:46.

revenues were all decimated. That is what happens when you spent a decade

:16:47.:16:50.

using a credit bubble to inflate the size of government. One big, the

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income suddenly disappears, for the commitments remain. That's one day.

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In 2010, those responsible in the party opposite, left government, and

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they did so without looking back. The six years that followed, they

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have retreated ever further from any of responsibility. It does to us on

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rebuild an economy on firm rebuild an economy on firm

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foundations, to wrestle down the deficit, to mandate many

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institutions left in disarray. Financial regulations, education

:17:29.:17:30.

standards, the housing market. All were broken. And all having

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painstakingly restored to working order by this government. Every

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decision that we made was a hard one. When the gap between the need

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and the resources of government is so wide, there are no easy answers.

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We have not always have the right the first time, the lease option is

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always not apparent. This is a government willing to listen and to

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respond. One also keeping on track. To squeeze out that, to encourage

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growth, to generate jobs, and to benefit that still the home. On all

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of the funds, we are moving the country in the right direction by

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the opposition rushes head onto the left. They can go their way, but we

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will keep on moving forward. This was a government that said they were

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going to eradicate the deficit to forget. Can he tell me when that

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policy change? How long does a long-term economic policy last for?

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I don't know whether the gentleman was in the chamber for the budget

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debate. He would see the budget responsibility confirmed that we are

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on track to eliminate the deficit by the end of the parliament and have a

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surplus. And is a bit of time talking to his honourable friend

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comes as demanded by the answer to why it is taking some time to reduce

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the deficit. Paying a lot of taxes, hundreds of thousands of small

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businesses. What assistance can be Secretary of State in the budget to

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the small businesses, facing great demand from local authorities? Draws

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attention to an important point, which is that we have extended and

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doubled the small business rate relief, benefiting business is right

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across the country. The small businesses that are the backbone of

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our economy and our contributing jobs at a record number that means

:19:28.:19:30.

we have more people employed ever before. On the point of small

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business rate, is there going to be an impact on local authorities and,

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as a result of being reduction and business rates? If the Honorable

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lady had attended the question started today, she would hurt me

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confirm that every penny will be made up. -- with -- would have heard

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me. I'm sure she is delighted to hear that. I asked the Secretary of

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State about this and the question to lead, and he said the cost of the

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small business rate relief would be funded by a section 31 grand. When

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he confirmed that background is not coming from any of the party at

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local authority budget, and it is not, what he point out and the print

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book where that money is funded? That's what the pointer and the

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bread book. Page 15. Let me turn to the subject of today's debate, which

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is infrastructure and devolution. Issues that will still matter a gear

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from out, and the 10th years and 100 years from now. The wealth of

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Nations, Adam Smith spoke of three fundamental duties of government.

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The defence of the Brown, the maintenance of Lord order, and a

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third duty that he describes as follows. The duty of a writing and

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maintaining certain public works and sudden public institutions, which

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can never be in the interest of any individual or small number of direct

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or maintain. The prophet would never be repaid the expense to any

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individual or small number of individuals, though they may

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frequently do much more than repay it to a great society. We can take

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it from the father of free-market economics, there is no contradiction

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from Faith in free markets, and public in infrastructure. They

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support one another, and this budget shows how. It announces new

:21:32.:21:36.

infrastructure investments, and every part of the country. From

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Cottrell for L2 in Clinton, two high-speed three for the northern

:21:42.:21:44.

powerhouse. There can be no mode tangible demonstration to our belief

:21:45.:21:49.

in a plantation economy. That's one nation economy. Much as we did do

:21:50.:21:57.

abundant, it is wrong to rely on a single centre for with creation.

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That's a value London. Both the wealth must be retained in

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communities across the nation. Hence our ongoing commitment to High Speed

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two, and north linking London to the Midlands, to the northern

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powerhouse. We must go further. We must build the vital east-west links

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needed to unlock the full potential of our great cities began London.

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The Pennines may be the backbone of England, but frankly, they are not

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the Himalayas. Some of our Nations greatest cities are stretched like a

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string of pearls across the north. And they can and should be drawn

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together. Which is why this budget strikes out in a new direction the

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key announcement on high-speed three. I will make some progress.

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This is a transformative project. In particular, the prospect of a better

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pastor line between Leeds and Manchester. -- factor. -- faster

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line. He has given a direct answer about the cost of the compensation

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for local authorities will come from the bread book. He mentioned page 84

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point 15. There actually is a cost, loss of small business rate relief.

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It is not the grant that will replace it. Where about is the

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grant? Code order! Not a point of order. That was the

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point I was going to make. Mr Deputy Speaker, I think the chairman said,

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before it comes to a edited the bay, he should do his homework. I will

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not help him in this debate. Our road investment will complement rail

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investments. This includes the M62, accelerating progress, to be

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achievement of a Ford lens Mart motorway fit for the 21st century.

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Other improvements to both rows are not high-profile, but just as

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important. Improving local links to bring home the benefits of national

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infrastructure. Does he recognise that in the

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improvement that is of most interest is the upgrading of

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will be transformative to the whole of the South peninsula and to my

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constituents with the tunnel at Stonehenge? I anchor with that. I

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know things about it, Wanda and never haven't under the party

:24:36.:24:41.

opposite, and cannot happen if we do not have a strong economy that this

:24:42.:24:47.

government has built. These investments, are long overdue. It

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has fallen to this government to make improvements that could and

:24:51.:24:54.

should have been made in earlier decades. That is why we must

:24:55.:24:58.

continue to make savings across the public sector. As well as improving

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the prolix, but the also dumb and welcoming the money put aside to

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further development work on a short route resilience to the shop was to

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ensure future years, we can actually have a abrupt way that works and

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serves our region? It is a welcome development that we are being that

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following this tradition of our Victorian predecessors and having a

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great revival of throwaway data. It is important for the shop with us

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that he represents so ably. In order to make these investments, we need

:25:35.:25:44.

to continue to make savings. The failure to control time expenditures

:25:45.:25:47.

does not mean to more borrowing, it means more blessed than available

:25:48.:25:51.

for capital expenditure. A double dose of debt for our children and

:25:52.:25:56.

grandchildren. Financial debt compounded by infrastructure debt.

:25:57.:26:00.

The decisions that we must make must be for the long-term good of the

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nation. This government is determined to draw the very best

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advice available. Including that of Lord Catholic time, who chaired the

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tens 2015 goals commission. The chair of the national infrastructure

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commission. Who do excellent work has informed many of the decisions

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made in this budget. Did he just tell the House on which page and

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with paragraph the compensation matter was referred to? I given not

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only the page and line number. He should have done his homework again.

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I am delighted to say that the remit of the commission will be expanded

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to include large housing development. It is vital that the

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big decisions that we make our transport and utilities

:26:57.:26:58.

infrastructure are accorded native but those that would make on

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housing. As of the building more homes, we need to build better

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homes. The idea that we can sacrifice quality to achieve

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quantity is utterly wrong-headed. The only way to build the homes that

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we need over the long-term is to forward planning, good design, and

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sound finance. That is why the budget laid the groundwork for a new

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generation of garden and villages towns and cities. We will provide

:27:24.:27:27.

targeted support for local authorities developed locally led

:27:28.:27:30.

skin. Well-adjusted legislative fretboard to speed up and simplify

:27:31.:27:35.

the process of new settlement. We will adopt a localised deal-making

:27:36.:27:39.

approach and planet whereupon, working with councils to tailor the

:27:40.:27:44.

system to local needs, in return for commitments on having delivered.

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Instead of trying to force new housing to a fundamentally

:27:47.:27:51.

unreformed system, the approach of the last government, this government

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understands that only a different policy can deliver different

:27:54.:28:02.

results. This month marks for yourself the introduction of the

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national planning policy framework. Overnight, 1300 pages of central

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government guidance were replaced by 52 pages of plain English. I see my

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friend to play an important part of that. A crystal clear guide to

:28:18.:28:21.

achieving sustainable development and we seen improvements and

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planning performance and housing delivery in that time. But for most

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councils did not even have a local plan. Now, most of them do and

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before long, all of them will. It is not just plans, but planning

:28:35.:28:38.

permission. Not this permission, but new homes being built. Popular

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support for new homes also. But we see is a rekindling of faith and

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development that was destroyed during the tenure of the party

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opposite. The actions that development can make places better,

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not worse. At least two to achievements of our canonical form,

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including the MTBF, which was to establish a fully fledged system of

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neighbourhood point. I am proud that they never had a cunning process is

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underway and thousands of communities across the country.

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That's neighbourhood planning. Ducasse intelligent, local people

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have been given a real say. Prove that when the system is ready,, we

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can deliver both quantity and quality. However, we do not regard

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the progress of the last four gears, admission the compass. Rather at a

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bird that is spreading further action. To put in new motions. And

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to continue the work of reform until we have achieved our vision of a

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property owning democracy. The MTBF was a new start, not an end point.

:29:48.:29:52.

The same applies to other great reform agenda that my department is

:29:53.:29:56.

responsible for the devolution. It was four years ago that I said

:29:57.:29:59.

before this House to announce the first wave of city deal. The

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response from the party opposite was mixed. This vegan and December, but

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welcoming the job the confines of Westminster. Four years later, the

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process of devolution has gone further and faster than even the

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enthusiast have thought possible. I will make progress. A second wave of

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city deals, but also the launch of both bills and devolution bills to

:30:28.:30:32.

encompass cities and sirens alike. We even seen something of a change

:30:33.:30:35.

of heart on the benches opposite. I welcome this is a genuine source of

:30:36.:30:43.

support. If the party of central planning to assess the power must be

:30:44.:30:46.

exercised locally, then that is progress indeed.

:30:47.:30:51.

I am very grateful for the Secretary of State for giving way, I don't

:30:52.:30:57.

know if he is due to come onto this, but I wanted to ask whether he is at

:30:58.:31:04.

all concerned about social care, the independent health foundation

:31:05.:31:08.

estimates that there'll be a gap of ?6 billion by 2020. Wanted a roll

:31:09.:31:14.

forward the XML for the better care fund which has not come. Does he not

:31:15.:31:17.

have real concerns that if the amount spent on social care is not

:31:18.:31:21.

enough it will put an extra burden the NHS? The first word is as he

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knows the provision in the local government and the financial

:31:29.:31:32.

settlement and review was to allocate up to three and a half

:31:33.:31:37.

billion pounds by the end of the parliament for adult social care.

:31:38.:31:44.

The Directors of social services as for coupon ?9 billion. The second

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thing in I know is a former minister in the department of help -- health.

:31:52.:31:58.

We need to bring together the treatment of our overly population,

:31:59.:32:04.

elderly members of society, so that between councils and the NHS we

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looked look after them. I do hope he has seen that and will follow it

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with interest. In this budget announces a number of new devolution

:32:22.:32:26.

deals. Combining authorities for the West of England and others. There

:32:27.:32:31.

are more to come soon. Far from raising local diversity the deals

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they can most of it. Bringing together shyer unit three and

:32:38.:32:43.

district authorities are working together. Announces for the little

:32:44.:32:51.

city region and greater Manchester. By establishing an authority for a

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directly elected mayor is just the him and -- beginning. An ongoing

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basis for the devolution of power. The advance of vocalist. For the

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business but local interest press partnerships which are devolving

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control of the 12 billion local growth fund. The budget explains how

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we will allocate the label -- latest archers of the fund. Will encourage

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ambition, innovation, and the productive use of taxpayer money.

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I'm delighted to see the announcement of new city deals in

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Wales and Scotland. Specifically the conclusion of a deal with the

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Cardiff capital region and the opening of negotiations in Edinburgh

:33:33.:33:37.

and Southwest cotton are very important. Devolution is

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transforming our nation. In 2010 the UK was one of the most centralised

:33:46.:33:49.

countries in the free world. There were no combined authorities. With

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won big city mayor. 80% of the expenditure was centrally

:33:56.:33:58.

controlled. By 2020 there'll be combined authorities the country and

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at least eight big-city mayors. Local authorities will keep 100% of

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the income. This budget describes and accelerate a process of expand

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-- profound change. The rebuilding our national interest structure any

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redistribution of power from the few to the many. I committed to the

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house. Hear, hear! Mr Speaker thank you very much. How time flies. It

:34:33.:34:41.

was only late last year that the right honourable gentleman was bide

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up by the Chancellor who announced he found a few million extra pounds

:34:49.:34:54.

from the back of the sofa. He came to the house in nothing no less than

:34:55.:34:57.

the guaranteed budget for every counsel. Sadly as he put it recently

:34:58.:35:08.

the good times lasted about a month. By February the Chancellor was

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thousands of miles away in Shanghai. He announced the British people that

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they would have to be more cuts. I wonder did anybody not remind the

:35:20.:35:23.

Chancellor of the ancient Chinese curse which says may you live. In

:35:24.:35:35.

interesting times. In China at the Chancellor was blaming foreigners

:35:36.:35:38.

for his problems, the EU was flat-lining he said. Oil prices were

:35:39.:35:47.

collapsing everywhere. But it does make some progress. Today's retreat

:35:48.:35:53.

means that there is a further 4 billion financial hole in the

:35:54.:35:59.

government's accounts. No explanation is being given as to how

:36:00.:36:02.

the whole of being filled. We're reminded this weekend by the

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resigning Secretary of State that there is an ethical hole, a moral

:36:08.:36:15.

vacuum. He seems oblivious to what is going on elsewhere in the world.

:36:16.:36:19.

Trends are having in the world economy that will affect the UK. The

:36:20.:36:23.

deficit has been cut by two thirds surely he would welcome that? The

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truth is this Chancellor has been in charge of the nations finances for

:36:32.:36:37.

six years and he wants to wash his hands of the Mets that he is making

:36:38.:36:42.

of the economy. I was lucky but an ethical hole. They thought it was OK

:36:43.:36:51.

and we still remember them cheering last Wednesday to buy the benefits

:36:52.:36:57.

of the most vulnerable. And for what purpose, for purpose of cutting

:36:58.:37:05.

taxes for the better off. It is not simply cutting the welfare budget.

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Which illustrated the government's willingness to attack the poor. It

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is also the constant local government and furthermore the way

:37:16.:37:18.

in which cuts are being distributed across local government. That

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equally illustrates the ethical hole which I'm talking about. For those

:37:22.:37:26.

councils which face the greatest social needs are now so showing --

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suffering. He would not give way on questions of social care, that is

:37:36.:37:41.

very unfair. He keeps trotting out about three and a half billion. What

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they wanted what's 700 million to cover the two years for the better

:37:49.:37:55.

covenant fund will not be there. Is going to cost 21 ?7 million to pay

:37:56.:38:00.

for the national minimum wage. That is the gap we are facing. I was

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talking about cuts and the distribution of them. I'm going to

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make progress. Let me inform the House for those that are not aware.

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The three most affluent areas in the hole country had the least amount of

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cuts. Since 2010. I will give way but let me make progress. The same

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three affluent councils then received 33 and a half million

:38:46.:38:48.

pounds extra money from the right honourable gentleman. That 33 and a

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half million was 10% of the whole amount of transitional grants. That

:38:59.:39:01.

was given to the whole country just focus on the three most affluent

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councils. A giveaway... . I mixed a devastating point that they're still

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reflecting. I may draw a comparison. Between the councils and the most

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deprived councils. This is an important point and I hope that

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members opposite are not scoffing. On the other hand Liverpool largely

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and Manchester not only had the most severe cuts to their budgets, but

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they did not receive a receive a single penny. This note possible

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rational explanation for such a distribution. Perhaps the Secretary

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of State would publish the criteria by which they distributed that

:40:05.:40:10.

money. We have no idea how they did that. How they managed to produce a

:40:11.:40:18.

distribution which favoured the rich counsel and penalised the poorest.

:40:19.:40:30.

How would he reconcile his comments that they were facing a 39%

:40:31.:40:36.

reduction compared to an average of 20% reduction the metropolitan

:40:37.:40:43.

areas? I believe the Honorable member stated North Yorkshire, North

:40:44.:40:50.

Yorkshire got ?10 million. West Yorkshire and south Yorkshire got

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not a single penny. Every single counsel got not a single penny.

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Because they faced were much more acute. And they're not worse to

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come. What we heard last week was that there is another three and a

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half billion pounds worth of savings to be made in the final year of the

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forecast. The Secretary of State is asking many councils to agree for

:41:21.:41:28.

your funding deal. Has he heard whether those that agree to the

:41:29.:41:32.

funny gives will be spared or will they does have the money taken off

:41:33.:41:37.

them? Not a peep from the Secretary of State so far. Look at the point I

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am making here, the truth is that unfairness and inequality runs to

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the DNA of this government. In every civil departments. The government

:41:48.:41:52.

provides services which makes the lives of the most vulnerable in our

:41:53.:41:56.

society bearable. He is suffering the most draconian cuts. Those same

:41:57.:42:03.

people who relied on a personal independent papers that they wanted

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to cut, those same people relied on home health and community services.

:42:11.:42:13.

Nowhere in the point my Honorable friend was making, is the great

:42:14.:42:19.

crisis in which social care is experiencing. The Tory control LGA

:42:20.:42:27.

estimates that despite the governments measures is a big

:42:28.:42:30.

funding gap in social care. ?700 million this year. They're not being

:42:31.:42:39.

looked after properly anymore. The Tory leader of the LGA put it

:42:40.:42:44.

starkly, he said vulnerable members of the community still face an

:42:45.:42:49.

uncertain future where dignify care and support which they deserve such

:42:50.:42:54.

as help getting dressed, help being fed, and help doing out and about

:42:55.:42:58.

remains at risk. The Tory leader said that. They're being denied help

:42:59.:43:08.

being fed. My own family faced a crisis a few years ago. So many of

:43:09.:43:16.

us has to come from in our own times in our life. I went to visit my

:43:17.:43:21.

father. Any hospital in leaves, the staff amazed with their skills. The

:43:22.:43:28.

nurse told me hit was coming to the end of his life. He had to be

:43:29.:43:34.

discharged from hospital because there was little they could do.

:43:35.:43:38.

Clearly he cannot go home, by good fortune I was able to convert a

:43:39.:43:43.

downstairs room in our house to a bedroom with a shower. Within days

:43:44.:43:47.

he came to live with me. He died in that room a few months later. We

:43:48.:43:53.

spent a wonderful time together. The sunshine every day into our house

:43:54.:44:01.

that he was there. We have a loving family and loving neighbours that

:44:02.:44:06.

helps. We could not have done it without the frequent house visits by

:44:07.:44:11.

the Council care teams which can every day, several times a day. Last

:44:12.:44:16.

year I had a fund raising event at my house and one of our guests that

:44:17.:44:20.

date with the woman I recognise. She had been a carer who helped me with

:44:21.:44:26.

that dad. -- my dad. She would always remember the visits to my

:44:27.:44:33.

house. I felt a chill down my spine when she told them they can no

:44:34.:44:36.

longer provide the level of care to others with my family had received

:44:37.:44:40.

because of the government cuts. On a their father and mother is an

:44:41.:44:47.

injunction that no society should forget. Local government is facing

:44:48.:44:54.

?10 billion additional feature cost pressures and there are three main

:44:55.:44:59.

threats to counsel budgets in this budget. Firstly the Chancellor

:45:00.:45:05.

demands a ?3.5 billion in spending cuts which my honourable friend

:45:06.:45:10.

mentioned. To help fill the black hole the government also accounts.

:45:11.:45:13.

There also ?4 billion and you about today. The house knows that there

:45:14.:45:19.

are very few unprotected services left, but local government is one of

:45:20.:45:23.

them and is therefore a prime target. Children's libraries,

:45:24.:45:29.

children's centres, firefighters and youth clubs all are at risk. Then

:45:30.:45:35.

there is the overhaul the business rates system. We welcome this giving

:45:36.:45:44.

to small business we campaigned for. Is going to cost about ?7 billion.

:45:45.:45:48.

The government said it will compensate local government for this

:45:49.:45:53.

loss. The Secretary of State quotes page 54 in the Redbook. He is wrong.

:45:54.:46:01.

That is not where a single penny is indicated to be coming from. Where

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is that money coming from, that 7 billion? They said that this will

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mean the resources will be retained what that is brought in, there is

:46:17.:46:20.

also going to be less than previously projected. We, by

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contrast, would have financed these cuts to smaller business rates

:46:27.:46:30.

because we would have maintained, not cut the level of cooperation

:46:31.:46:33.

tax. There is a third area of threats which the budget inclined.

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Westminster alone takes more Liverpool, Sheffield, Birmingham,

:46:42.:46:56.

and Bristol combined. If prosperous of Westminster keeps its 1.8 billion

:46:57.:46:59.

that there'll be a significantly lower of money to be redistributed

:47:00.:47:08.

to the less affluent areas. Mr Speaker, it took the report of the

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implications of all this is a taxpayer, the Secretary of State was

:47:14.:47:17.

silence on this. They estimated that the 95% of counsel would increase

:47:18.:47:25.

taxes by the maximum allowed. This means for the first time ever that

:47:26.:47:30.

the average council tax bill payer the pain ?1500 a year. Over the next

:47:31.:47:39.

five years local residents face a 40% increase above inflation on

:47:40.:47:44.

council tax. In return they will get a worse service. So much has been

:47:45.:47:50.

the Tories for the party below taxation. They were off, and has

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been increased. It is unacceptable. Is he aware that the decision to

:48:06.:48:10.

remove retail rate relief would mean that for shops in Chester will be

:48:11.:48:14.

paying ?3000 a year extra does he believe that that concurs with the

:48:15.:48:17.

argument he just made? Of course it does. They're not interested in

:48:18.:48:29.

ordinary people business. Let me turn briefly to the subject of

:48:30.:48:36.

devolution. In his budget statement he announced devolution deals.

:48:37.:48:41.

Concern has been expressed on all sides of the house. Minister cannot

:48:42.:48:45.

say that we did not warn him about trouble on this. The process is to

:48:46.:48:51.

top-down. A single marrow model has caused much resentment. We stop the

:48:52.:48:59.

fault of the councils that there are these tensions, there would under

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enormous pressures. The fault lies entirely from the process impose.

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Not by the Secretary of State by the Chancellor himself. Our citizens

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should have a say about how they areas are governed. I will give away

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one more time. It sounds good on paper, this idea of devolution, but

:49:30.:49:35.

how does that square with the forced academic citation of schools. I

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agree with the point my honourable friend made. I may make progress on

:49:43.:49:53.

devolution from... . They made money available to these Metro mayors.

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That sum, 13 million a year, is dwarfed by severity of cuts and

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every single case in which each of those councils have suffered.

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Top-down devolution compounded by financial injustice will not work as

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a solution in our country. Probably funded real devolution, to build

:50:16.:50:22.

homes, to regulate buses, to do things marrow or not. This greatly

:50:23.:50:27.

to the implications of the budget for the North of England. Limitation

:50:28.:50:38.

Mr Speaker, Mr Deputy Speaker, this 2010 the Chancellor's budget cuts to

:50:39.:50:46.

northern counsellors alone adds up to ?3.9 billion out of the northern

:50:47.:50:53.

economy. What do we get any place of those cuts? A few million pounds for

:50:54.:51:05.

a scaled-down flood, and a few for a rail link. None of this cuts the

:51:06.:51:13.

mustard. It is a power scam more than a powerhouse. Let me begin to

:51:14.:51:22.

conclude by expressing my greatest admiration for councils of all

:51:23.:51:30.

parties. They do their very best to protect services despite cuts. What

:51:31.:51:35.

are the most prized assets of any community but the first to go, I

:51:36.:51:43.

visited a library in Radford. They're keeping it open despite

:51:44.:51:47.

losing half the budget in a decade. That library was a beacon of hope,

:51:48.:51:53.

of self improvement, of learning, I met people there studying to better

:51:54.:51:58.

their lot in life. There was no where on earth they could afford to

:51:59.:52:03.

buy their books. Not to use the Internet which was also available.

:52:04.:52:08.

It had to be putting food on the table for their kids but their work

:52:09.:52:12.

able to come the library and have access to knowledge and in one case

:52:13.:52:19.

I met a man who is using the Internet, any public library to

:52:20.:52:26.

complete his PhD. Cutting libraries and museums and theatres is nothing

:52:27.:52:34.

sort of cultural vandalism. And it is the right humble gentleman this

:52:35.:52:39.

morning was doing a round of interviews with the media. He told

:52:40.:52:45.

the party to come together again. He said they should stop scrapping.

:52:46.:52:51.

With each other. Good luck with that one. He then went to the today

:52:52.:53:00.

programme and talked about the rough and tumble budget negotiations, as

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if that was an explanation for the resignation. I think the right

:53:04.:53:14.

honourable gentleman as a dental man... And decent man. What does he

:53:15.:53:27.

really know about the rough and tumble budget negotiations. He was

:53:28.:53:31.

the first Secretary of State to sign the Chancellor's terms. On the radio

:53:32.:53:36.

he referred to the right honourable member as my good friend. My guess

:53:37.:53:42.

is he may not want to follow the paths of his very good friend and

:53:43.:53:47.

resigned from the government. I hope however in the future he will decide

:53:48.:53:51.

to fight in this corner more strongly against the Chancellor

:53:52.:54:00.

whose judgement is nil. I'm grateful for this riff on our resignations. A

:54:01.:54:05.

party that resigned from reality at last August it is pretty rich. I

:54:06.:54:15.

think the odds to have stated seat. Hear, hear! It is time for him to

:54:16.:54:25.

stand up to the demands of an unreasonable Chancellor then have

:54:26.:54:27.

our communities decimated. If you will not be well. There will be

:54:28.:54:40.

five-minute from now on a park in the. In particular a quite superb

:54:41.:54:53.

opening speech on the right honourable member. I would like to

:54:54.:54:57.

pay tribute to him and his team of ministers who I think serve us very

:54:58.:55:04.

well. This was a budget for small businesses and enterprise as much as

:55:05.:55:07.

anything else. I look in the doubling of small business rate

:55:08.:55:12.

relief increasing the maximum threshold from 12,000 to 15,000. I

:55:13.:55:16.

walk in the reduction in corporate tax. In particularly the 10% rate on

:55:17.:55:23.

long-term investments on unless companies. That would do a great

:55:24.:55:29.

deal for startups. I welcome the changes of commercial properties and

:55:30.:55:34.

the national insurance forced the self-employed. I was just working

:55:35.:55:40.

out the other day, Mr Deputy Speaker, this is the 40th budget I

:55:41.:55:44.

have been privileged enough to listen to. That includes emergency

:55:45.:55:52.

budgets of course. This is without doubt, one of the best, if not the

:55:53.:55:58.

best budget for small businesses, for enterprise, and for wealth

:55:59.:56:01.

creation and our communities. The opposition have accused the

:56:02.:56:07.

Chancellor of favouring the rich, but let's hang on a moment. The

:56:08.:56:12.

richest 1% last financial year paid 28% of all income tax revenue and I

:56:13.:56:18.

find that staggering. It completely undermines their argument. I will

:56:19.:56:23.

give way to my honourable friend, no. I also had a look, I will give

:56:24.:56:32.

way. He like other Google on that side seem to be celebrating the fact

:56:33.:56:35.

that under a government that seeing the rich get much richer, and the

:56:36.:56:40.

poor get poorer, the rich will start paying more tax. Would it be better

:56:41.:56:47.

if the top 20% pay more tax, and the bottom 20 were actually getting

:56:48.:56:52.

wealthier rather than poorer. I'm grateful for the intervention. He

:56:53.:56:56.

and I get a long together. And I respect his views. He pointed out

:56:57.:57:04.

that over the past few budgets higher earners have seen huge

:57:05.:57:14.

reductions. Squeezing in other ways. He points out that in this budget in

:57:15.:57:22.

terms of its impact has actually had a modest impact. I think that

:57:23.:57:26.

underscores the point that this is a fair budget. Indeed one as it is for

:57:27.:57:35.

all of our constituents in our communities. I just want to touch on

:57:36.:57:40.

a devolution proposals. I support devolution. The flexibility of

:57:41.:57:44.

making government money available at the local level makes sense. I'm

:57:45.:57:52.

going look very carefully at his for East Anglia and combined authority,

:57:53.:58:00.

I want the Mr to confirm to me was a 30 million a year is going to be new

:58:01.:58:05.

money and will the hundred and 70 million of money for housing is also

:58:06.:58:11.

going to be spread over 30 years or on a per annual basis, could we have

:58:12.:58:18.

a look at that? I certainly support the idea of devolution, however I

:58:19.:58:24.

had to tell him I am very sceptical of having an elected mayor. Back in

:58:25.:58:33.

2000 and 2001 I was one of those politicians who is vehemently

:58:34.:58:39.

proposed to the proposals on the grounds for extreme cost, empire

:58:40.:58:43.

building, and also the fact that I viewed them to the link of demise

:58:44.:58:49.

for the counties. I do regard the plan to bring in an elected mayor

:58:50.:58:56.

with some suspicion. I wrote over four years ago we were discussing

:58:57.:59:01.

plans for peace and crime commissioners, it was going to cost

:59:02.:59:07.

very little. The chairman of the Authority called the PCC sitting in

:59:08.:59:10.

the police headquarters at no extra cost. Our commissioner is now

:59:11.:59:19.

costing 1.37 million, he has got a large staff a separate building, he

:59:20.:59:22.

has built a mini empire. The cost across the country comes to 52

:59:23.:59:25.

million from the commissioners. Just a point I want to make in terms

:59:26.:59:35.

of what you said about elected mayors. The Jets was forced that

:59:36.:59:41.

elected manner onto the register as a link to having the devolution.

:59:42.:59:45.

Does he wish to have devolution without forcing elected mayors onto

:59:46.:59:52.

elected areas? I think the most important thing is to have the

:59:53.:59:56.

support of the local authorities. This new mayor is not going to hear

:59:57.:00:00.

sheet, operate out of the garden shed. I think he or she is going to

:00:01.:00:08.

want to build a large empire and have a large staff and have it

:00:09.:00:13.

directors of this and other divisions and departments. Before to

:00:14.:00:17.

long there will be a lot of pressure to have an elected assembly. These

:00:18.:00:22.

heads of highways and heads of infrastructure and housing will then

:00:23.:00:26.

become elected. So before we know we are, we could well have an elected

:00:27.:00:31.

assembly. I say to the Secretary of State, I am very glad that he has

:00:32.:00:35.

stay for my speech, because he thought as he been here waiting a

:00:36.:00:39.

long time. I think there is an infinity in the cities to the city

:00:40.:00:44.

itself, in Birmingham and Manchester and new clerk -- Newcastle and

:00:45.:00:50.

London. Therefore they are more likely to support the idea of having

:00:51.:00:53.

an mayor of that city. I feel absolutely no affinity to East

:00:54.:00:59.

Anglia. I still an infinity in Norfolk. East Anglia does not

:01:00.:01:03.

include the free counties. It does not include Cambridgeshire Essex.

:01:04.:01:08.

What about Lincolnshire or just north of my county boundary? I think

:01:09.:01:14.

the problem would be that we have an elected mayoral election. We're

:01:15.:01:18.

going to have a pitiful turnout. Maybe 12 or 15%. I worry also that

:01:19.:01:24.

we could undermine the institutions of Norfolk County. We could

:01:25.:01:27.

undermine the County Council and this could be the death of the

:01:28.:01:33.

Norfork County Counsel suffix and Cambridge as well. I also believe

:01:34.:01:38.

there could be a conflict within Leeds. If I'm opening a factory or

:01:39.:01:42.

campaigning on a big issue and an elected mayor comes along, and says

:01:43.:01:47.

I have a mandate as well, ordering up around, that would not be good Mr

:01:48.:01:51.

Deputy Speaker for the constitutional relationship between

:01:52.:01:54.

MPs and their voters. I am bruised by my experience of campaigning

:01:55.:02:01.

against Norfork County Counsel. We had the LEP suddenly weighing in

:02:02.:02:05.

behind the County Counsel. I asked my Honorable friend, can we have

:02:06.:02:08.

devolution? And we also look very very carefully at the idea of an

:02:09.:02:14.

elected mayor equipment let's have the devolution first, maybe with the

:02:15.:02:20.

Minister is angry and his colleague. Let's have devolution and move very

:02:21.:02:24.

cautiously before we go towards the election of an mayor. If I don't

:02:25.:02:28.

have assurance from him, it will read what is in my view an

:02:29.:02:37.

absolutely outstanding budget. Thank you very much Mr Deputy Speaker. The

:02:38.:02:44.

S are reporting with some success from last year, having secured the

:02:45.:02:50.

tampon tax but that may be something we can continue to pursue as the

:02:51.:02:53.

budget process continues. The Minister talks about small

:02:54.:02:57.

businesses and I would like to see that this government is picking up

:02:58.:03:00.

the success of the Scottish Government. We have for some years

:03:01.:03:03.

had a small-business bonus scheme. This has helped many small

:03:04.:03:07.

businesses across Scotland survive in these difficult times. We are now

:03:08.:03:14.

toward review of industries and we are improving the business

:03:15.:03:17.

communities and taking until 2017 to establish what the new system may

:03:18.:03:20.

look like. We are taking our time, Mr Deputy Speaker to get this right.

:03:21.:03:24.

Our government must consider these things more carefully and we don't

:03:25.:03:28.

want to jump as this government seems to like to do from one crisis

:03:29.:03:33.

to the next. We are also looking at council toxins in Scotland, which we

:03:34.:03:37.

had a cross party with local tax reform. We have reviewed very

:03:38.:03:40.

carefully all the different options on council tax and how we can meet

:03:41.:03:47.

that on a more fair system. We have had public meetings and came up with

:03:48.:03:51.

a set of recommendations that all parties can stand up to. The real

:03:52.:03:57.

credibility in evidence behind it... The great thing to do is give

:03:58.:04:01.

make the taxpayer. It would be good make the taxpayer. It would be good

:04:02.:04:05.

to see this government take that on as well. This government is so

:04:06.:04:09.

different to our own government in Scotland. It is in chaos with health

:04:10.:04:14.

care reform. There are black holes in the chancellors budget on top of

:04:15.:04:19.

the targets he has get Phil to meet. He's putting tax cuts onto local

:04:20.:04:24.

government and tax hikes and the social care preset. He is also

:04:25.:04:33.

claiming to help tenants by cutting 1% on the housing association by

:04:34.:04:39.

ignoring altogether the private grants, which is all contributing to

:04:40.:04:43.

the housing crisis in England. As members have heard me mention

:04:44.:04:46.

earlier on, the committees and government select committee to

:04:47.:04:52.

suggest the sorting of rents and private rented sector is the luck --

:04:53.:04:56.

the leading driver of homelessness in England. There are rarely so many

:04:57.:05:03.

people sleeping outside in England and it is up 30% for the past year.

:05:04.:05:07.

The number of people who end up homeless because they can't afford

:05:08.:05:11.

to pay their rent has increased. Scotland has taken a different

:05:12.:05:15.

approach again. Our house and was the surgeon has provided things in

:05:16.:05:22.

the housing sector and the private rented sector as well. We have

:05:23.:05:27.

freaked creative protections for these people. They have been forced

:05:28.:05:30.

into poverty in the private rental sector in England this is

:05:31.:05:35.

increasingly falling to families. They are forced to rely on that

:05:36.:05:40.

sector and have no certainty and we cannot afford for them to get by on

:05:41.:05:44.

social rented properties sold off with no social rented properties to

:05:45.:05:53.

replace them. Why mess am grateful to the our Lady for giving way. She

:05:54.:05:58.

will know that in Scotland the Scottish Government has the power to

:05:59.:06:01.

control the housing. If he wanted to they could bring in a right cap.

:06:02.:06:07.

Shouldn't other regions of England have the same powers as Scotland to

:06:08.:06:10.

be able to control our housing market? If we wanted to introduce

:06:11.:06:14.

more rate controls in London, then we could do so? Yes I think that

:06:15.:06:21.

would be a very useful idea and certainly when you see the sorting

:06:22.:06:24.

of rents in the private sector as compared to the social rented

:06:25.:06:28.

sector, it seems perverse that this government would look at the social

:06:29.:06:32.

rental sector as a source of his problems, went... I think that would

:06:33.:06:38.

be very useful for governments to have in England. The solution to

:06:39.:06:44.

this housing crisis is not starter homes at starting rates of ?450,000.

:06:45.:06:54.

?77,000 for the cost of ?90,000 is these going rate for the starter

:06:55.:07:00.

homes. That will not allow the best opportunities for the next

:07:01.:07:06.

generation to come along. There is a commitment to stop homelessness in

:07:07.:07:11.

this budget which is welcome. When you consider the size and scale of

:07:12.:07:14.

the housing crisis that we face. There's actually nothing happening

:07:15.:07:22.

and that social rented set there. This government is sticking plaster

:07:23.:07:28.

when the patient needs urgent CPR. Scotland is continuing to invest in

:07:29.:07:31.

social rented structure, despite because that we face from the

:07:32.:07:35.

government here. I would like to turn out to some of the issues of

:07:36.:07:39.

the devolution deal to Mr Deputy Speaker. I like to draw attention to

:07:40.:07:46.

the Scottish this gives skill and ambition to Scotland's cities. This

:07:47.:07:49.

government could be doing a lot more to support those skilled in

:07:50.:07:54.

Scotland. In our own city of glass go and that city deal, this is

:07:55.:08:00.

making a significant contribution to the growth of local economies and

:08:01.:08:04.

doing so in a Mormon matters that gets people on board and brings them

:08:05.:08:08.

back into port in the communities elected, over generations. I would

:08:09.:08:16.

like to reiterate the disappointment expressed by myself, the plans for

:08:17.:08:27.

shyer were ambitious, comprising a 2-.9 billion infrastructure delivery

:08:28.:08:30.

programme and associated investment fund. Mr Deputy Speaker you can

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appreciate the disappointment that was found in the taskbar that only

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find a measly 125 million in Treasury so far often unfairly. This

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chest is a different league entirely when it comes to being stingy. The

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oil has kept the UK economy afloat for years. Hear!. Maybe the and

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tomorrow and Inverness, I welcome that the people in Inverness have

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been waiting for some time prior to the election/ year in fact, to see

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if they will receive anything for the UK Government. They require a

:09:11.:09:17.

significant investment, and every opportunity for young people to stay

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within the area. For to long the greatest and best had to leave the

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high to secure, with Padilla -- technological advances that we see

:09:32.:09:36.

in 2016, there are real opportunities. Not only young people

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to stay in the region but to attract new families to enjoy the excellent

:09:41.:09:44.

quality of life afforded in that part of the world. Inverness

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deserves the government support to make changes in his area. I urge the

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chance for and ministers to be generous to find the appropriate

:09:55.:09:57.

sums of money that this area needs to stimulate growth. People are

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making life choices as we speak. They are filling in and deciding

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want to go for the next steps of their life. They need to know that

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the UK Government as well as the Scottish Government is thinking of

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the future. And that their future is considered in this budget as we move

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forward today somewhat I thank my colleagues for making a point and to

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follow-up on the issue of the city deals, is she aware that the back of

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the queue is the city deal for South Scotland? And that the Chancellor

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and the Minister tonight has made a great to do that negotiations have

:10:41.:10:44.

been opened but it is not an announcement to wait six months

:10:45.:10:47.

before opening negotiations. That is not an announcement that is a delay,

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delay delay. Absolutely I understand that the Scotland deal was mentioned

:10:59.:11:05.

back in September last year. We are starting to open negotiations now is

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an unacceptable delay and we need the stimulus. It was mentioned in

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some of the reports that committees have done on city deals that there

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often dictated by what we call imperatives. It seems that these

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political imperatives these deals have sat. We have waited and waited

:11:26.:11:29.

deal. We have not had any certainty deal. We have not had any certainty

:11:30.:11:34.

about how well this will be received. It would be quite good if

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we could get this announcement coming soon, because we do have

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quite a period before the Scottish elections approach. As we move into

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the EU referendum as well, the people that deserve to know how

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there deal is being received and when working get underway. It would

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be ashamed of the ambitious proposals for 1 billion

:11:58.:11:59.

infrastructure skills innovation put on hold by the EU referendum. That

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?1 billion of investment in the bed could unlock an additional three

:12:07.:12:10.

point to the game for private sector investment in Scotland. Because the

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deal is working collaboratively with the university, the potential impact

:12:18.:12:23.

of the deal and the UK's growth is certain certainly deserving of

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announcement. The reflecting deals Mr Deputy Speaker and other parts of

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Scotland as well I welcome. Particularly with people involved

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with the issue of deal which also has ambition proposals for the area

:12:39.:12:42.

to bring in science technology and innovation. There were lots of

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potentials within that constituency. LAUGHTER We should see young people

:12:51.:12:59.

again being attracted to stay in the area to make their lives there and

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also to bring in families that have moved away. There are many ways in

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which Scotland is looking at issues differently. Our 5 million

:13:08.:13:12.

population allows for the discipline and innovative thinking. Local

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government and housing and homelessness we can lead to the UK

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in what we're doing. I hope in this Parliament at least for however long

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or short that may be the members will look to Scotland for new ideas

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of civilization. Hear, hear! Deputy Speaker it is a pleasure to speak in

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this important debate. This is one that carries on the good work of

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this government. We will secure our countries future and the future is

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rosier thanks to the actions this government has taken. If we look

:13:49.:13:53.

back to 2010 and the very serious financial position of this country

:13:54.:13:59.

and what we face prior to 20 ten election, had the people not voted

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in the way that they did, we would a phase right now more barring an much

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more debt. We would have a higher cost of Bahrain. The welfare budget

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would have been out of control. Public spending would have continued

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to spiral. It is the fact of life that the Labour government has also

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will always recognise the economy in that conservatives have to come back

:14:23.:14:26.

and cleaned up and get our country back on track again. This budget

:14:27.:14:31.

carries on with that work. The government intends for people to

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understand the difficult decisions that had to be made into thousand

:14:35.:14:37.

ten and they understand again with the elections of 2015. And they

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understand it now. There have been significant achievements in my

:14:43.:14:47.

constituency. Unemployment is down by 60 to present since this

:14:48.:14:51.

government took office into thousand ten. The economy is good going on

:14:52.:14:55.

the right direction. I want to focus my remarks on the effects of the

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budget and local authorities in terms of the devolution of business

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rates. Probably because prior to arriving in this place, I myself was

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a small businessman. I used to receive a bill for my local

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authorities, which I thought was such a substantial chunk of money,.

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This was for no direct services received it was just for commercial

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service. We paid extra for that. My bill arrived with the rugby local. I

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consoled myself that the money was being spent within my community.

:15:31.:15:36.

That of course was not the case. For so long local government, simply

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acted as a collection agency for central government. The money went

:15:40.:15:42.

back to Central government. I think is ideal in the right thing to do

:15:43.:15:45.

for local authorities to retain the business rate. The other question I

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asked myself, was what incentive is the local authorities did not retain

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the business rate, what incentive did local authority have to grant

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consent for new development, new businesses, and encouraged the boys

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-- growth of the local economy? Of course there wasn't any and there is

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now. I am very pleased that the government will be going for a

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business rate evaluation. I support that. I think any tax that is based

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on the valuation of property, should be based on the current value. There

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should be regular revaluation and the government is going to publish a

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discussion paper with options on how to achieve that. I'm pleased of the

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maximum threshold for release will be going from 12,000 to 15,000. That

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means that 600,000 small businesses will never play business rates again

:16:37.:16:41.

and save almost ?6,000. There are some issues in respect to local

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authorities. The cost of doubling the relief or business rates values

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up to 12,000 will be around for ?570,000. I will open to the

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secretary of State in the Minister room spun into the debate to set out

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how that will be dealt with as far as local governments are concerned.

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We've analyse that 134 businesses in the barrow with the rateable value

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of up to 15,000 from whom they have collected almost $900,000 in

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business rates. How many of those 134 businesses will qualify for the

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level of relief that would be entitled to. There is some

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uncertainty by local authorities. The further point with regards to

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business rates and concerns that I have is that there will now be an

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incentive for local authorities to consent to barter business units

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rather than smaller business units. In my constituency you are in a big

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unit, it is relatively easy to provide. There are fewer units

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available for smaller businesses to grow and develop. The local

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authorities are faced with planning applications for small units, for

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which they would generate no income, and an application for large it is

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where they will retain the business rate. It is not hard to see which

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group the local authority will take. I also fear the effect that this

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might have in providing a disincentive for small businesses to

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grow and develop. You'd end up with a cliff base as the debatable value

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increases and businesses may be disincentive vies for moving

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forward. Thank you Mr Deputy Speaker. This budget or this sorry

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excuse for a budget has fallen apart in front of our very eyes, just

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indeed as a chance reputation is. Harold Wilson says some years ago

:18:46.:18:48.

that week was a long time in politics. By heaven doesn't the

:18:49.:18:55.

Chancellor realise that today, because it is certainly this

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Chancellor who just a week ago was standing here on this matchbox and

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for himself as a future Prime Minister. LAUGHTER. His credibility

:19:07.:19:13.

is falling faster than the Republic. I don't see the former will be

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pensions secretary, who threw the towel in, as any comrades in the

:19:17.:19:24.

face of goodness and decency. I do welcome his conversion to our case

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after six years of the most brutal attacks, the welfare has ever seen

:19:30.:19:34.

since its creation. The tax on the low-paid and unemployed and

:19:35.:19:38.

disabled, the young, and the vulnerable, the weakest members of

:19:39.:19:41.

our communities, bringing in policies like the bedroom tax, which

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has seen three quarters of the people affected, having to cut down

:19:45.:19:50.

on their food bills in order to pay it. I will give way. On the subject

:19:51.:20:05.

of Parkinson's I have also said that 600,000 people have a multi-skeletal

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condition. Those are just to examples of the disabled people in

:20:12.:20:14.

this community who need help. Does the government regard? In those

:20:15.:20:23.

cases can be replicated. Throughout the UK. I go back to the point I was

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making. The introduction of the benefit cap, which will see an extra

:20:29.:20:34.

40,000 children cast into property. Will tax credit and housing benefits

:20:35.:20:39.

and box Universal credit, which will see more than 10 million families

:20:40.:20:46.

facing over a ?1600 a year cut in their benefits. Of course the

:20:47.:20:53.

infamous world capability task which targeted terminally ill cancer

:20:54.:20:57.

patients and those with severe learning disabilities, in order to

:20:58.:21:01.

reach that target. I do welcome the change of heart from the eggs

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working pensions minister. He probably realised that it is

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reprehensible to persecute people who need help, just to washed,

:21:12.:21:17.

dressed, or go to the toilet. What's more we are sick of the spin of the

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chapter, whether it be the Northern powerhouse that he keeps coming up

:21:21.:21:25.

with, or the builder of the infrastructure in this country. The

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builder was fully... Wearing shining hard hats and jackets were his tips

:21:37.:21:42.

were undercut and nothing but paid out is funded by the taxpayers. All

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of this we see what we are facing a housing crisis in this country. I

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remember first coming down here and seeing people lying on the street is

:21:52.:21:55.

sleeping on the street. We all thought it was disgraceful. It was

:21:56.:22:01.

cleared up. Now what are we seeing as he walked into probably these

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days? The very same case that we saw when the Tories were in power in the

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90s. It is a scandal that us, the fifth wealthiest country in the

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world, that we see our priorities as cutting welfare cuts to the wiki is

:22:18.:22:23.

an increasing the number of rock sleepers by over 50%. At the same

:22:24.:22:27.

time lavishing tax cuts on the very rich. I am proud to be a member of

:22:28.:22:32.

the Union of construction and allied technicians. I'd join when I wasn't

:22:33.:22:38.

in Labour, mum before I became a member of this house. I want to see

:22:39.:22:44.

the building of houses to sort out homelessness and the housing crisis.

:22:45.:22:46.

I want to see the infrastructure of this country built for the benefit

:22:47.:22:51.

of everyone. But what do I see under this Government? I see rent rises in

:22:52.:22:52.

the private sector with counsel the private sector with counsel

:22:53.:22:57.

sector and housing associations brought about by a government who

:22:58.:23:04.

persecutes tenets. I see disgraceful threads to the end of security of

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tenure to families who will be kicked out of that council houses

:23:09.:23:12.

and kids ripped out of schools. This will destroy communities forever. I

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see the privatsation of housing association properties when the

:23:17.:23:20.

government them to sell on the cheap. At the councils being forced

:23:21.:23:27.

to sell the very best properties to speculators in private parents and

:23:28.:23:32.

children with a chance to live in a nice area. I see ludicrous

:23:33.:23:38.

first-time buyers scheme with a ridiculous belief that ordinary

:23:39.:23:42.

people can get on a property ladder by purchasing a house costing up to

:23:43.:23:47.

?450,000. That must be something like 18 times the average wage of

:23:48.:23:52.

someone in my constituency. I pay tribute to the councils and those in

:23:53.:23:59.

my tickler constituency for the work they have done in protecting people

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in the past and what they'll do in the future. But instead of getting a

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country built up, we have a Chancellor who is building a future

:24:08.:24:10.

not for everyone in society but just digging his old -- own political

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grave. By Matt thank you Mr Deputy Speaker for calling me to speak in

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this important debate. I am really pleased. Is the budget that. Let's

:24:28.:24:35.

take away some of the noise that we heard today and focus on the big

:24:36.:24:39.

picture of what is actually in this budget. This is a budget for

:24:40.:24:44.

ordinary working people. This is the budget for small business and for

:24:45.:24:49.

enterprise. This is a budget for Telford. Telford has a proud history

:24:50.:24:54.

of innovation, creativity, and finding solutions to problems. We

:24:55.:24:59.

have a rapidly growing dynamic and small, micro business picture of,

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with increasing numbers of people in Telford who are self employed. These

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people are doing it for themselves and building their businesses from

:25:09.:25:10.

nothing at all. They're creating jobs for today and tomorrow. We had

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over 3000 small businesses in Telford, which will benefit from the

:25:17.:25:20.

measures in this budget to cut business rates. Sadly for some this

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help us come to late. I want to put our record the static closure of a

:25:24.:25:33.

bakery in closing its doors in April after a long struggle with business

:25:34.:25:36.

rates. But it is just in time for many of the small kiosks in town

:25:37.:25:45.

centre, who will welcome the news. This is a budget for some of these

:25:46.:25:50.

businesses. Telford is an area of low pay. Many people have a little

:25:51.:25:56.

disposable income. People in Telford work hard. They take on extra hours.

:25:57.:26:01.

They take jobs to make ends meet and save for their families in the

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future. This budget incentivizes and rewards those people in Telford.

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Fire raising tax thresholds, 2000 people on low pay in Telford will be

:26:15.:26:19.

taken out of tax altogether. Though many others will keep more of their

:26:20.:26:22.

hard-earned cash. Working people in Telford support this budget and they

:26:23.:26:32.

also particularly like the freezer. Be under their illusion, if you're

:26:33.:26:38.

on a small income in Telford, the freeze makes a massive difference to

:26:39.:26:42.

you everyday lives and ordinary spending power. I remember three

:26:43.:26:46.

years ago going to Ashford and spending money on a litre of petrol.

:26:47.:26:51.

Today it is under ?8. More people in Telford have money to spend now. You

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can go to the retail part on a Saturday and see what I am saying.

:26:58.:27:01.

It is hard to get a place to park. I would be happy to give way. You only

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have to go to the retail part in Telford on a Saturday and it is hard

:27:10.:27:13.

to get a place to park. You have to do around the block. People in

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Telford are keeping more of the current earning money. Hard work is

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being rewarded. I welcome that and being rewarded. I welcome that and

:27:20.:27:25.

people in Telford walked Matt. This is all before the introduction of

:27:26.:27:28.

the minimum range that we are going to see in April. This budget

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supports business and hard work and this household income. These are the

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big picture messages. Tens of thousands of working people and

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Telford will get the budget that works for them. This budget

:27:47.:27:49.

incentivizes people to save for their future. If you're under 40 and

:27:50.:27:54.

the government gives you ?1 for every ?4 to put away. This will help

:27:55.:28:01.

young people in Telford save home or start a family. The lifetime savings

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account is flexible and it is simple and it gives people an opportunity

:28:07.:28:11.

of self-reliance. This is a measure that Steve a teacher at the

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Academy... This is what we do in Telford. We try hard. We work hard.

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We want to get on. That's why this is a budget for Topol. Of course

:28:22.:28:26.

that there are pockets of significant deprivation in Telford.

:28:27.:28:29.

I am delighted to see the homelessness report in the budget

:28:30.:28:33.

and I want to pay tribute to a homeless charity that I support

:28:34.:28:36.

which is celebrating its 25th anniversary next month. This budget

:28:37.:28:41.

enables people to make ends meet and save for the future. It is a budget

:28:42.:28:46.

for hard-working people, a budget for business and enterprise, and a

:28:47.:28:50.

budget for Telford. It is for this reason Mr Deputy Speaker that I

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wholeheartedly support this budget. I just want to get beyond the

:28:52.:29:03.

headlines of the budget which often leads to tears on the bench is off

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opposite. Going back to the point that I raised at questions and

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interventions, but I still does not get in in situ. Local authorities

:29:18.:29:23.

will be compensated for the change in small business rate relief. And

:29:24.:29:34.

then similar amongst the year after. The secretary of state said that

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this is in the Redbook. No, that is the cost. It is not showing how

:29:39.:29:48.

local authorities will be compensated for that loss by a

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section 31 grand. Will someone please show me any Redbook where

:29:56.:30:02.

that section 31 is described as compensating local authorities? I

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will give way. Could be put in place as early as 2017. Can I have a

:30:13.:30:17.

consultation on this? Where are we. We need to know where we are. We

:30:18.:30:25.

need absolute certainty on this. We welcome the help for small

:30:26.:30:28.

businesses, but not at the cost of local authorities and their

:30:29.:30:33.

services. If they cannot explain today across the House, I have her

:30:34.:30:37.

to the secretary of state and I hope that we can get a written into which

:30:38.:30:41.

we can be made available to the library. The secretary of state then

:30:42.:30:46.

went on to say that after 2020, because there will be no great

:30:47.:30:50.

available, the composition will be provided by reduction and a devolved

:30:51.:30:54.

powers to local councils. They won't have as many things to spend the

:30:55.:30:58.

money on that they now want to get to the business rate relief. I think

:30:59.:31:02.

that that is a bit disappointing, that the government's way out of

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this is to decrease the devolution that they are going to provide. But

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does not seem to be consistent with the government's claim. More

:31:10.:31:16.

worryingly, the change between RPI in CPI that comes between 2020 how

:31:17.:31:23.

on earth did the government find a mechanism to compensate authorities

:31:24.:31:27.

for that change that will very here on your? How would they do it when

:31:28.:31:32.

the only way of compensating will be to change the devolved powers that

:31:33.:31:35.

local authorities are going to have? That can be done on a yearly basis.

:31:36.:31:40.

Please provide the mechanisms and explain it to us. That is a real

:31:41.:31:45.

fundamental problem after 2020. If any future government were to bring

:31:46.:31:48.

in the sort of changes that this government brought into business

:31:49.:31:52.

rates, where would that leave local authorities in the future? Local

:31:53.:31:57.

authorities will have their income cut, and no means to compensate them

:31:58.:32:01.

because they will be no revenue support grant in existence. On a

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year-to-year basis, the powers that local authorities have that are

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devolved to them cannot be changed. This does up the need, -- throws up

:32:10.:32:20.

the needed... We also need to consider devolving the right to set

:32:21.:32:24.

the business rate in the business rate systems. If that is not done,

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this will shun devolution and put local authorities act great risk. It

:32:31.:32:38.

is a real problem here that has to be thought through. Coming the

:32:39.:32:45.

four-year settlement which the secretary of state rightly offered

:32:46.:32:48.

to local councils for the rest of this Parliament. Where is that now

:32:49.:32:53.

left by the 3.5 billion of efficiency savings which the

:32:54.:32:57.

Chancellor announced in his budget in the four point for billions of

:32:58.:33:00.

extra savings that is presumably going to be found to now do with the

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PIP cards that aren't going to be carried through? -- cuts. Will we

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have an absolute categorical assurance from the front bench that

:33:16.:33:19.

the four-year settlement or local councils that has been offers will

:33:20.:33:25.

not in any way be affected by the extra ?7.9 billion at the Chancellor

:33:26.:33:30.

has to find? Is it not going to be a case of giving certainties and then

:33:31.:33:37.

asking them for more cuts in an impossible position to put

:33:38.:33:41.

themselves in? Can be had that categorical assurance on the

:33:42.:33:45.

government? Are we going to see further cuts to the public health

:33:46.:33:49.

grant which has not been preserved by this government? In the last

:33:50.:33:53.

government, the public health grant was part of the health budget, and

:33:54.:33:59.

was ring fenced accordingly. It has been cut by ?200 million already

:34:00.:34:07.

this financial year. The estimate is that there will be ?600 million more

:34:08.:34:12.

in real terms cuts by 2020. Is that correct going to face any further

:34:13.:34:17.

cuts as a result of the cancer's need to fill his ?7.9 billion

:34:18.:34:28.

glycol? -- Chancellor's. Rough sleeping is a blot on our society

:34:29.:34:33.

and it is right that extra help is given to it. To really tackle

:34:34.:34:37.

homelessness, apart from tackling prevention, we also need more social

:34:38.:34:43.

housing to offer to people that are homeless. What has the government

:34:44.:34:50.

Tuesday about the report saying that by the end of this Parliament that

:34:51.:34:54.

will be fewer social rented homes than there are at the beginning of

:34:55.:35:01.

this Parliament? What about the inquiry of local government the

:35:02.:35:04.

other day? The less the government changes, the link to the local

:35:05.:35:11.

housing allowance and all their house help an provision will be

:35:12.:35:14.

closed by the end of this Parliament. That is not a situation

:35:15.:35:19.

that anyone can tolerate. It is a pleasure to be called to be speaking

:35:20.:35:29.

in the budget debate. Consider them and draw conclusions from them. The

:35:30.:35:35.

devil is in the details and they have been uncovered. That has been

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the case. We have found the devil. The devil has been chased out of the

:35:42.:35:46.

group already. I would love to speak for five minutes about the

:35:47.:35:49.

importance in my view of the Northern Powerhouse and why is it

:35:50.:35:54.

about more than infrastructure projects. Into devolution has the

:35:55.:36:10.

opportunity... -- anti-devolution. I want to focus a bit more on the

:36:11.:36:15.

elements that are from a golden thread running from the budget and

:36:16.:36:18.

from the approach of this government. We can't call it

:36:19.:36:24.

compassionate conservatism, one nation, social justice, a

:36:25.:36:27.

preferential option for the poor. The title does not really matter in

:36:28.:36:32.

my view. What should goes through everything we do as a government in

:36:33.:36:37.

a party is to have a concern for the people with the state has failed.

:36:38.:36:42.

For those who face challenges that we may not face ourselves, for the

:36:43.:36:53.

bottom of the pile. If we want to be a party who can truly look ourselves

:36:54.:36:57.

in the mirror and believe that we are a party doing our best for

:36:58.:37:02.

everyone in our country, we have to meet that challenge. We have to make

:37:03.:37:11.

sure that's our values and principles... As much as for old

:37:12.:37:19.

people. Focusing on every generation and abolishing feelings between

:37:20.:37:24.

those generations. So that the next generation has a chance to exceed

:37:25.:37:29.

the achievements of their parents generation. It has to be a

:37:30.:37:34.

fundamental test of every fundamental policy and manifesto be

:37:35.:37:38.

put out. It should be the centre of the PC to do. I welcome the

:37:39.:37:43.

government's decision to rethink how it cheats PIP. -- treats. Could be

:37:44.:37:55.

described as a very large saving that the Treasury was seeking to

:37:56.:37:59.

derive from the PIP changes. I have glad that we are not going down that

:38:00.:38:04.

path and I welcome the decision. I also that Glickman...

:38:05.:38:12.

That will require some radical Germanic policy reform to ensure

:38:13.:38:19.

that the complexity of needs in people trying to find work can be

:38:20.:38:27.

adequately assessed, met, and helped put into work. We have to recognise

:38:28.:38:31.

that there will always be a significant number of people on a

:38:32.:38:35.

benefit like PIP who will never be able to return work. We must be also

:38:36.:38:44.

careful in this place to fall into an inadvertent utilitarian truck

:38:45.:38:47.

that sees those who aren't able to return to work as in some way less

:38:48.:38:52.

deserving of our sympathy, but also of our financial supports. Equally,

:38:53.:39:02.

me are not in work. They Need to do more to ensure that money

:39:03.:39:21.

is. The most vulnerable with an able honourable group are looked after.

:39:22.:39:27.

Those with a chance returning to work no more worthwhile than those

:39:28.:39:32.

who are not. There is no hierarchy in our state. It genuinely staggers

:39:33.:39:43.

me that the Labour Party are bystanders in this debate. They

:39:44.:39:46.

talked dealing with a welfare reform, but they have no ideas at

:39:47.:39:51.

all. Other than to get out the national credit card time and time

:39:52.:39:58.

again to pay for every U-turn. To make real progress on disability

:39:59.:40:02.

policy needs to be cross party agreement. I looks to be benches

:40:03.:40:07.

opposite to try to decide who it might be that is brave enough to

:40:08.:40:12.

step forward to make that step to dispense for the ill will and

:40:13.:40:16.

malevolence and come forward with some real proposals to fund cross

:40:17.:40:26.

party support. I don't see it yet. I want to focus my contribution on the

:40:27.:40:30.

devolution deal for greater Manchester. I welcome the principle

:40:31.:40:34.

of communities having a far greater control over the policies and

:40:35.:40:37.

funding the affects their localities. It is right we have a

:40:38.:40:41.

much greater opportunity to shape our own destinies. As we take

:40:42.:40:47.

greater responsibility, the government and especially the

:40:48.:40:50.

Chancellor, must understand that we are not to be set up to fail to

:40:51.:40:54.

collude with policies that are wrong. Greater Manchester's leaders

:40:55.:40:59.

are red to deep business with the government. I have come to the

:41:00.:41:05.

conclusion that in some key areas, the Divine. Which has left too many

:41:06.:41:17.

people and communities behind. It is essential but be in raise rates and

:41:18.:41:23.

Manchester so that we can tackle the scourge of work was this an improved

:41:24.:41:27.

levels of activity and ensure that people living in our communities

:41:28.:41:34.

benefit from job creation. The current devolution deal only gives

:41:35.:41:40.

greater Manchester control of education. This is nonsense and

:41:41.:41:49.

setting aside to go. They're a properly funded schools challenge on

:41:50.:41:54.

par with London. With a high-quality vocational offer. And have greater

:41:55.:41:59.

flexibility to employers on apprenticeships. If the government

:42:00.:42:02.

is serious about supporting greater Manchester to tackle the scandal

:42:03.:42:06.

that is 25% of children living in poverty, they will provide

:42:07.:42:10.

additional funding to the Beacon expand early childhood development

:42:11.:42:13.

programmes, not cut them as is happening now. We have agreed to

:42:14.:42:18.

create an integrated care and support system. However, we have a

:42:19.:42:27.

?2 billion and funding gap. Community mental health services are

:42:28.:42:31.

in crisis. In many areas, preventative services are being cut

:42:32.:42:37.

to the bone. On top of this, we have no guarantee that the Treasury

:42:38.:42:41.

workers are being funded in the future. As very deal would mean that

:42:42.:42:49.

NHS... From the current 450 million to 1 billion. Any deal must also

:42:50.:42:54.

make it clear that in greater Manchester BBQ nimbly oppose the

:42:55.:43:01.

privatsation of the images. -- vehemently oppose the privatsation

:43:02.:43:11.

of the NHS. On a much broader level. However, the government cut

:43:12.:43:13.

things... A deal which is spam must put in

:43:14.:43:32.

place transitional rates. Does not disadvantage any of our ten greater

:43:33.:43:36.

Manchester authorities. In some parts, the decline of town centres

:43:37.:43:41.

has damage economic opportunity and civic pride. Despite being

:43:42.:43:47.

identified as a priority Pittsford town centres and funding have been

:43:48.:43:52.

rejected by the Treasury. Another flaw. A fair Dilbert recognise the

:43:53.:43:56.

importance of towns and district centres across greater Manchester.

:43:57.:44:03.

Finally, on accountability, the devolution deal is silent. While

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some of these issues require resolution, accountability of the

:44:10.:44:19.

mayor and the Cabinet. A new fair devolution deal is essential if

:44:20.:44:23.

greater Manchester is to reduce inequality and become a world class

:44:24.:44:34.

combination for all his people. I must warn ministers this has always

:44:35.:44:41.

hallmarks of the big society. Undermined by reality.

:44:42.:44:45.

Disproportionate cuts and policies like the forced the conversation of

:44:46.:44:49.

our schools makes a mockery of this. We would be a northern poorhouse if

:44:50.:44:53.

it wasn't for the innovation and commitment of our local councils and

:44:54.:44:57.

committees. It is for this reason all leaders and greater Manchester

:44:58.:45:01.

happen right to be pioneers for devolution. The time has now come to

:45:02.:45:06.

demand a spare, not flawed devolution deal. I sat in his house

:45:07.:45:14.

for a period of time and budgets come and go, but what is important

:45:15.:45:17.

is the direction of the country over a period of years. We inherited the

:45:18.:45:25.

largest peacetime deficit. Nearly 11%. That required some tough

:45:26.:45:30.

measures, but it also requires some assistance. The government has been

:45:31.:45:35.

quite sensible and not push the deficit down in four years as we

:45:36.:45:40.

heard in the debate. It is done so with the real economy. We now find

:45:41.:45:43.

that the government of the said will be down to the levels that it was

:45:44.:45:50.

precrash before 2007, but it is not a sensible thing to run large

:45:51.:45:54.

deficits and build up large debts. I think that the government has met

:45:55.:46:00.

spending commitments. In the course of the last six years and has

:46:01.:46:06.

managed to reduce the tax rates, but the backdrop is that it actually has

:46:07.:46:10.

created something that something that we were worried about. The

:46:11.:46:18.

British, and he has performed tremendously well over the last six

:46:19.:46:25.

years. We have done a fantastic job, and that is because employers have

:46:26.:46:34.

been sensible and so have employees. It is also because the government's

:46:35.:46:39.

policies of ensuring that a combination of welfare reform and

:46:40.:46:44.

allowances of the which people pay tax. There were two events on

:46:45.:46:51.

Wednesday. One was the budget, the other was the employment figures. I

:46:52.:46:56.

want to focus unemployment figures. We have employment in Britain of

:46:57.:47:01.

31.14 million. A record. A massive amount of people. We have real wages

:47:02.:47:09.

going to .1%, which is about inflation, which means living

:47:10.:47:11.

standards are slowly starting to recover. But the government has done

:47:12.:47:17.

in this budget is to again push up the allowances before people pay

:47:18.:47:21.

tax, but also for living wage which should help to repay the thinking is

:47:22.:47:27.

that we all want. Private sector employment, 26.1 million people, a

:47:28.:47:35.

record level. Claimant count has fallen in the last year youth

:47:36.:47:40.

unemployment has fallen to the lowest since the 1970s. There is a

:47:41.:47:44.

pretty good record of what is happening in the British economy.

:47:45.:47:49.

The government have created a framework, employers have been able

:47:50.:47:56.

to invest, employees have taken decisions, and we put a lot of our

:47:57.:48:00.

citizens into work. One of the best ways out of poverty for those that

:48:01.:48:09.

can is to give people a job. That give people hope it an opportunity

:48:10.:48:15.

for the future. We don't say enough in this house about how the British

:48:16.:48:19.

economy has done well. If you look at the back of the economist, you

:48:20.:48:28.

will see that Britain's unemployment rate is lower than Germany which one

:48:29.:48:31.

would not have thought are considered. Our unemployment rate is

:48:32.:48:37.

only a little bit of thought about the United States which has been

:48:38.:48:43.

covering well. The chance of getting a job in this country is far better

:48:44.:48:46.

than countries across Europe. If there is a problem that people are

:48:47.:48:50.

trying to migrate to Britain is for two reasons. We speak English, and

:48:51.:48:56.

it is easy to get employment. Our market is far more flexible and

:48:57.:49:05.

robust than the rest of Europe. The government is assuming that the rate

:49:06.:49:06.

of growth will slow as property that is a very real success of

:49:07.:49:17.

economic policy. It changes people's life changes and gives them far more

:49:18.:49:22.

opportunity to make the best of their life. This is a government for

:49:23.:49:25.

hard-working people long may it remain so. Hear, hear! As is now

:49:26.:49:34.

abundantly clear, this was a budget developed with short-term politics

:49:35.:49:40.

in mind, not compassionate long-term economics. You have to admire the

:49:41.:49:47.

sheer audacity of the Chancellor who genuinely thought you could get away

:49:48.:49:52.

with rewarding Tory donors and the city with a cut to corporation tax

:49:53.:49:57.

while attempting to cut benefits for disabled people. Or, get away with

:49:58.:50:03.

cuts to those least likely to vote conservative. While sticking to his

:50:04.:50:07.

mantra that we are all in this together. Or get away with preaching

:50:08.:50:13.

about a Northern Powerhouse just as the Department for business closes a

:50:14.:50:16.

Sheffield office and lose all 200 jobs to London. Today all he got

:50:17.:50:24.

away with is shirking his duties to come to this house and account for

:50:25.:50:30.

his failure. And the black hole in his budget. His reputation is now in

:50:31.:50:38.

tatters. There was never, ever any compassion in trying to cut the

:50:39.:50:44.

benefits of 370,000 of the most vulnerable disabled people and our

:50:45.:50:51.

society. Five ?3500 a year. This government has always hit disabled

:50:52.:50:57.

people hard. Through the bedroom tax, but I would have had much more

:50:58.:51:03.

sympathy with today's U-turn had it not been based on the warnings from

:51:04.:51:10.

charities who called last Wednesday's budget a bleak day for

:51:11.:51:15.

disabled people. A constituent of mine is disabled, and determined to

:51:16.:51:20.

carry on working for. PIP helps them do that. When he gets home, his

:51:21.:51:26.

joints are so stiff that his wife has to help them toilet and bathe,

:51:27.:51:32.

and yet he is determined to keep on working. He was to keep working

:51:33.:51:35.

because he wants to keep his dignity. The Chancellor wanted to

:51:36.:51:40.

take it away. He has performed a U-turn, not to help my constituent

:51:41.:51:45.

and helping keep his dignity, but Benedict tend to keep his own

:51:46.:51:50.

dignity. All we need to know now is who he is going to pick on next to

:51:51.:51:56.

find the 4.4 billion hole in his budget. We could be short of one

:51:57.:52:03.

thing, even after today, the most vulnerable in our society will

:52:04.:52:06.

continue to pay for this government's failures. Take the

:52:07.:52:11.

business rate relief announcement, on the face of it, good news for

:52:12.:52:15.

businesses in my constituency, but our local consuls could find

:52:16.:52:20.

themselves cutting more services for those in need to make up for the

:52:21.:52:25.

shortfall in their budgets. In my local area, we are proud to have

:52:26.:52:29.

more small and medium-sized businesses in the economy.

:52:30.:52:35.

Small-business relief accounts for 11% of their net rate income,

:52:36.:52:40.

compared to 4% for England as a whole. What a 100% retention

:52:41.:52:49.

induced, they will be stuck bouncing the bucks to pay for a short-term

:52:50.:52:53.

victory for the Chancellor. Despite the words today that the councils

:52:54.:52:57.

will be compensated, as my honourable friend had set out so

:52:58.:53:01.

clearly, the bedbug includes no explanation of where this money will

:53:02.:53:05.

come from and for how long it'll last. -- Redbook. If only we could

:53:06.:53:14.

believe it. Electrification of the rail route would be a crucial

:53:15.:53:19.

development. This project has been announced, cancelled, Vietnam,

:53:20.:53:23.

delayed, and then renounce once more. We still have no clue

:53:24.:53:27.

commitment from the Chancellor as to when it will happen. There is

:53:28.:53:31.

nothing clever about announcing big investments but then running for

:53:32.:53:34.

cover when it comes to the implementation. Worked has just

:53:35.:53:40.

started on 9% of the projects, images 's and biplane.

:53:41.:53:54.

Once again, it is the north that suffers a slow productivity

:53:55.:54:06.

strangles economic growth. This region is not till present behind

:54:07.:54:09.

the national average on output. I don't know compassion for the

:54:10.:54:22.

Chancellor. I will give way. She is making a great speech. I wonder if

:54:23.:54:26.

we could touch on the Waspy woman up and down the country who must have

:54:27.:54:29.

been disappointed that the budget contained nothing and they are

:54:30.:54:35.

suffering those 1950s woman pouring born are suffering. Despite his

:54:36.:54:44.

rhetoric. The Chancellor was just plain politics. When you put

:54:45.:54:52.

politics before economics, you take a risk. The Chancellor started to

:54:53.:54:58.

believe some of his own press. I wonder if he still leads it tonight?

:54:59.:55:03.

He got the economics very wrong, but he also got the politics wrong. He

:55:04.:55:08.

shares now come back to this house with a package that addresses the

:55:09.:55:13.

real long-term needs of this country, not his own short-term

:55:14.:55:17.

aspirations. He should stop playing politics and start planning for an

:55:18.:55:22.

economy that works for the benefit of all not just kiss will be made.

:55:23.:55:27.

If he can't, then he should have the courage to say so and take the

:55:28.:55:30.

consequences rather than asking for others to pay for his failures.

:55:31.:55:38.

Hear, hear! I am grateful for this opportunity to contribute to this

:55:39.:55:41.

debate. Before addressing the main budget issue I wish to mention two

:55:42.:55:50.

small announcements and the budget that are of major significance to

:55:51.:55:57.

institutions and my constituency. For Bletchley Park, the award of ?1

:55:58.:56:03.

million will allow them to establish a major new exhibition which help in

:56:04.:56:16.

World War II. I congratulate the team at Bletchley Park for all that

:56:17.:56:19.

they have done to transform it into a world-class heritage site. I would

:56:20.:56:29.

also add that if any colleague is looking for a distraction during

:56:30.:56:36.

Easter recess to visit Bletchley Park. I also think the Chancellor

:56:37.:56:46.

for the announcement that will help another world-class institution in

:56:47.:56:50.

Milton Keynes, the open University. The extension of the eligibility for

:56:51.:56:55.

Masters loves to include a three-year part-time courses with no

:56:56.:56:58.

full-time equivalent is very welcome. The university was worried

:56:59.:57:03.

that the absence of such a provision would happen detrimental to the

:57:04.:57:13.

2016-17 academic year, but this will secure its future. The main issue I

:57:14.:57:16.

wish to focus upon today is not just about the long-term future of

:57:17.:57:21.

melting teams and the surrounding area, but the wider national

:57:22.:57:32.

benefit. I was delighted to discover in the Redbook the decision to

:57:33.:57:36.

commission the national infrastructure commission to develop

:57:37.:57:39.

proposals for unlocking growth, housing, and jobs in the Oxford, and

:57:40.:57:46.

seems, Cambridge quarter. -- Milton Keynes. I welcomed and its terms of

:57:47.:57:57.

reference the acknowledgment that the commission should not just work

:57:58.:58:00.

on its own, but in collaboration with local stakeholders. We already

:58:01.:58:10.

have a number of exciting projects under way that will develop this

:58:11.:58:19.

arc. I chairman of a group that will unlock economic growth, tax

:58:20.:58:22.

revenues, and connectivity within the region. This is not just about

:58:23.:58:31.

traditional transport infrastructure. Locally, we are

:58:32.:58:39.

innovating the intelligent mobility solutions of tomorrow. We have the

:58:40.:58:47.

transport systems in Milton Keynes. Universities are developing the

:58:48.:58:50.

advocate smart project. These will unlock the digital and hard

:58:51.:58:53.

infrastructure improvements of tomorrow. It is important that the

:58:54.:58:57.

national infrastructure commission takes their work into consideration.

:58:58.:59:04.

This is wider than just transport. Also, we have the melting teams 2050

:59:05.:59:18.

commission. -- Milton Keynes. We need to support economic growth. We

:59:19.:59:29.

celebrate our 50th anniversary as a new city next year, and this is

:59:30.:59:34.

looking at the 50 years beyond that. I also told the commission's

:59:35.:59:39.

attention to the fast-growing cities report published by centres for

:59:40.:59:42.

cities just a couple of weeks ago. That contains important findings

:59:43.:59:48.

which we need to consider. I echo the vision set out in terms of

:59:49.:59:54.

reference issued by the Chancellor. It's noticeably already have global

:59:55.:00:00.

centres of research excellence and advanced manufacturing Milton

:00:01.:00:10.

Keynes. The terms of reference also acknowledged the institutions that

:00:11.:00:16.

strengthen the governments of the corridor are necessary. I strongly

:00:17.:00:20.

echo that. Might ask in this debate is a meeting with the secretary of

:00:21.:00:24.

state to this precipice. We need to devolution locally and across our

:00:25.:00:29.

corridor. We need to be able to compete with the Northern

:00:30.:00:30.

Powerhouse. Juan thank you Madam Deputy Speaker.

:00:31.:00:48.

When the political statement destroys a political velocity yet

:00:49.:00:51.

last week that have the statement did precisely that when it destroyed

:00:52.:00:54.

philosophy of compassionate conservatives. Compassionate

:00:55.:00:58.

conservatism has been killed stone dead. The nasty party, the

:00:59.:01:07.

Conservative Party is back. The Chancellor is modelling wrong and is

:01:08.:01:13.

economically incompetent. We have a chance but that every target he sets

:01:14.:01:21.

for himself, he proceeds to fail every single test. The vision that

:01:22.:01:27.

the government has been rolling out in the policy area. This is a

:01:28.:01:32.

national area this is a vision bit upon orders that, collapsing

:01:33.:01:38.

councils and equipment adult social care. We seek a matter of principle

:01:39.:01:47.

for the funding for the national health service is that it needs. It

:01:48.:01:53.

is remarkable that it has taken the resignation of the pensions

:01:54.:01:57.

Secretary to illustrate this. This floored nasty, national vision.

:01:58.:02:03.

Without doubt in recent days he has outflanked this Telford on his left.

:02:04.:02:07.

It shall so that everyone would have seen has disappeared and has been

:02:08.:02:12.

added -- unable to make a sum that up. A Chancellor in the bunker, sat

:02:13.:02:18.

in the ashes of his own incinerated ambitions. He is a man who on every

:02:19.:02:23.

turn has placed his personal ambitions above every single

:02:24.:02:32.

consideration for the national good. When the formal pensions secretary

:02:33.:02:34.

was described as one of the bustards in his cabinet. That's Thatcherism

:02:35.:02:41.

entered its final days but it's back, making sure that austerity

:02:42.:02:46.

works for the rich while punishing the poor. Millions of people all

:02:47.:02:49.

over this country now see this Prime Minister and this Chancellor in

:02:50.:02:55.

precisely the same way as John Major saw his rebels. This budget builds

:02:56.:02:58.

our country and felt my constituents. Felt every community.

:02:59.:03:04.

Before the budget I wrote to the Chancellor, setting our minds

:03:05.:03:08.

community required for him. On the second phase and on NHS recruitment,

:03:09.:03:15.

and that's our own locally produced real long-term economic information

:03:16.:03:22.

to establish over ten years ago fall, we have the opportunity to

:03:23.:03:25.

become one of the fastest-growing sub regional economies in the whole

:03:26.:03:29.

country, the single biggest private investor we have ever seen. This is

:03:30.:03:35.

a remarkable opportunity and this project has taken over ten years to

:03:36.:03:40.

reach this point. Meaningful government assistance would expedite

:03:41.:03:47.

process. The industrial Cumbrian coast and will call it is. This will

:03:48.:03:53.

put even more pressure on it but, the case to improving the road is

:03:54.:03:59.

also overwhelming. I am grateful for my Honorable friend giving way. I'm

:04:00.:04:03.

also wondering it over in when somebody which is part of the North,

:04:04.:04:06.

whether he has seen any sign of the great northern powerhouse? Over in

:04:07.:04:11.

the North East we have yet to see it. The truth is that the North will

:04:12.:04:18.

succeed despite this government, not because of it. But we could perhaps

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have the Chancellor to explain what the law actually does begin and end.

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With regard to the NHS, local health economy could be in gauging the

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success reaching process. This process has already been undermined

:04:32.:04:35.

by ministers and the Department of Health. This is a necessary of work.

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How do we adapt the economy to meet the needs? This is becoming fatally

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compromised by the refusal of ministers to listen to those who are

:04:47.:04:48.

being tasked with undertaking the work of success of this regime. The

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security outcomes that they want to achieve requires more resource. It

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is simple is obvious in a response from government so far is a

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resounding no. Without additional resources, the success of the

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redeemed will fail. There've been no efforts to recruit more health

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professionals and finished the hospital and achieve the ambitions

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of everyone in regards to a local hospital services in the world. Is

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he also as concerned as I am as there are to more custody NHS. ?650

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million of cuts that have to be paid for NHS. 1.1 billion cuts in the

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maintenance and repair? There are great many people who wish to speak

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in this debate. Every time there has been an intervention which is been

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to long, then the time increases by one minute. Somebody else drops the

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end of the list. As long as Honorable members know that when

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they make interventions that it does not increase the time available for

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the debate. It merely stops their colleagues from speaking. I am not

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saying the Honorable Lady has done anything wrong at all not for a

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moment. She is perfectly entitled to intervene. I merely point out the

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consequences. Mr Reid. I appreciate my Honorable friend intervention.

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Make no mistake about the message being sent to the NHS. This

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government is saying that people in Cumbria must make do with the

:06:37.:06:39.

defunded national health service that cannot provide the same level

:06:40.:06:43.

of static here that the rest of the NHS does, it in terms of the quality

:06:44.:06:47.

and accessibility. If this is true than the notion of a truly national

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health service is yet another casualty of this Prime Minister is

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twisted, national vision. The future will be brighter that it has ever

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been. Not because of this government but with the investment of this

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government, we can remove the barriers that are currently stopping

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us from achieving. West Cumbria can help perhaps better than many other

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areas to rebalance the national economy and secure our national

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energy supplies and secure our objectives and provide massive

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overseas investment. Finally battered Deputy Speaker, this budget

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has only been made possible because my party failed to convince the

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British people to trust as the last general election. The consequence of

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that failure is this budget. More it between now and 2020. These budget

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damage our communities. They damage those most in need and damage the

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chances that the very people that this body -- party was founded to

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represent. We gain their trust and by any means necessary ensure that

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we are in a position to under comfort and support at the next

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general election. Because wherever you are in our country, whoever you

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are, and whatever your background, race, ability, or circumstance, you

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deserve better than this government. It is the job of my government to

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provide precisely that. We believe our economy is expected to grow

:08:36.:08:39.

faster than any other advanced economies. This is welcome news but

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we must ensure that all parts of the country sharing the road.

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Unemployment has fallen again under this Government and work benefits

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are at the lowest level since November 19 74. Employment is

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growing fastest in the North West. My constituency has seen the

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unemployment rate fall to to .6% although I appreciate more needs to

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be done. This economic stability is creating confidence for

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manufacturers to invest and thrive in Britain. This is created ever to

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.7 million new jobs and the private sector has created six jobs for

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everyone jobs lost in the public sector. Stability is especially

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important for industrial recovery, as investment in training, plants,

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and machinery requires long-term confidence due to the high cost

:09:36.:09:40.

involved, especially in comparison to other sectors. With employment in

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the northwest growing faster than the rest of the UK, we could clearly

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see how the northern powerhouse is delivering the skilled jobs that

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provide the foundation for a better economy. The budget seeks to

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increase the connectivity of the northern powerhouse and strong

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transport infrastructure network. This will the an extra ?161 million

:10:04.:10:11.

to upgrade the am 60 to to a 4-lane motorway and upgrades to the a 56

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and a 69. Further to this, and the North, we can see work being done on

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the Gateway Project, which is set to conclude in the autumn of 2017. This

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involves a six lane bridge. The funding to upgrade the day 5036 from

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the forth and live among which will link motorway network. This will

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manufacturing and export. Our real services in the region are also set

:10:53.:10:59.

to improve and the ongoing work between Manchester... This will help

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provide a reliable and sustainable real weight which will tackle

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overcrowding. My constituencies realise the delays of the process

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has had but we do appreciate the reasons for it. I do ask the

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government to consider the provision of more carriages until that work is

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finished. The budget has also announced plans to develop a case

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for a total length between Sheffield and Manchester, which will be

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appreciated by anyone who find that their route takes them over snakes

:11:33.:11:40.

past, especially during winter. This is all enabling the rebalancing of

:11:41.:11:43.

the British economy and providing the foundations we need for the

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northern powerhouse to foster. Alongside this, plans to further

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devolution to our cities is continuing, especially now with the

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transfer of criminal justice powers to greater Manchester. The original

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piece and crime Commissioner role nearly replaced the police

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authorities but this reform is the potential for changes to better

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reflect local needs and allow to increase innovation. We need a

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sister with that will prevent people getting into crime in the first

:12:11.:12:16.

place. But also to reduce high reoffending rates. Devolution

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provides the opportunity for the North, moving power away from it --

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Westminster and bring it closer to the people. The mayor of greater

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Manchester will have more powers than the London hour -- Mayor and we

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need to make sure that these powers will be exercised in all our

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interest and improved services across greater Manchester. Deputy

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Speaker of the government has delivered this for the next

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generation and the budget ensures that it will also deliver for the

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next. Thank you very much. I don't want to speak at length this

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evening. But I do want to add my voice to the course of

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congratulations that had greeted the budget from all corners of the House

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certainly. I cannot remember in the 12 years that I've been in this

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house a budget in which so big a hole has opened far and fast as the

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budget we have just washed over the last few days. It's perfectly

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natural that the budget has provoked a hymn of praise from all sides of

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the House. You start picking the details apart and then it falls

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apart that the Honorable member earlier. The government says the

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Honorable member for South campus, has made some poor decisions. What I

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will member said this budget hits exactly the wrong people. Now we see

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in the newspaper for members of Parliament that were once supportive

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of the Chancellor, now saying that the Chancellor is damaged goods.

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Madam Deputy Speaker can I associate myself with this new consensus

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breaking out across the House, and congratulate the Chancellor for

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going to such lengths to his words, put the next generation first. I

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thought that was a good message and of course he has presided over an

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economy where that is exactly what has happened. This is now the first

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generation to be worse off than the generation that came before them.

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This is now the first generation to be more likely to live in poverty

:14:30.:14:34.

than pensioners. The young generation state is now the first

:14:35.:14:37.

generation to have to work years longer in order to earn their

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pension and of course young people today are the first generation to

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graduate from university, with over ?50,000 worth of debt. This was

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indeed a budget for the next generation but not quite as the

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Chancellor presented it. In fact it was just the latest from a failed

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generation of conservative politicians. The final proof for me,

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Madam Deputy Speaker, was this. If the Chancellor wanted to do

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something for the next generation, and he truly wanted to put the next

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generation first, then he would have surely done something significant.

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He would have done something magnificent for Britain's youngest

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city. This is of course my home city of Birmingham. Instead what we have

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had is a conservative Birmingham bombshell of over eight -- ?100

:15:31.:15:36.

million of tax rises and spending cuts. That is the way the Chancellor

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has put Britain's youngest city first. The government now admits

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that the great city of Birmingham needs that they are funding formula.

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And that the government is so convinced that the need for this new

:15:52.:15:55.

funding formula that it has determined not to introduce it now

:15:56.:15:59.

but in a couple years' time. It is that short-changing which is costing

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our city, something like 90 ?8 million in lost grants. There would

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be almost no need to introduce cuts in this council budget this year if

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it was not for that short shameful stuff I give way to marble friend. I

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am grateful to model friend for giving way. The city of Birmingham

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has been cut and hit with the greatest cuts. Does he share my

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dismay in the dismay of the people of Birmingham that we put a powerful

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case of the government to support us out of the transitional fun, 95p in

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every hundred euros to conservative councils, not one single penny to

:16:42.:16:46.

hard-hit Birmingham. My Honorable friend is absolutely right. I have

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to say it takes some doing to actually sit and write a formula,

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that means only conservative councils get the money. But I take

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my hat off to the Secretary of State and indeed to the chapter. Somehow

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they found a way of doing that. Of course it was not just 98 million

:17:02.:17:09.

pounds short-change this year. Because we have a weak attached

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based in our city, this means we have to raise extra in our

:17:13.:17:18.

constituency. Despite the fact that our police are on one of the most

:17:19.:17:23.

dangerous front lines, we have had 10 million pound cuts to our police

:17:24.:17:28.

service this year. Altogether that's ?130 million. I have to say this is

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a bombshell to the people of Birmingham and we will not forget. I

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am not sure who is winding up to nice debate. But we have significant

:17:40.:17:43.

questions from our home city. We would like answers to why we have

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not gotten any of the transitional funding that went to others. We want

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to know whether if we agreed a four-year funding settlement,

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whether our budget will then be put into play, in 2019 - 2020? This is a

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significant issue for councils down the country. If they also agree on

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four-year funding settlements would discover, debate gets protected from

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the new ?3.5 billion efficiency pride which the government announced

:18:20.:18:22.

last week? Yes or no is a very simple answer. On business rate

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retention, Birmingham is up for this challenge but of course we need to

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know so much clearer is is that we got this afternoon. We need answers

:18:30.:18:34.

on whether the gaps are made good. Can the ministers confirm when they

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wind up, whether the are assumptions that there are going to be a 40%

:18:40.:18:45.

increase in council tax of elects four years are in fact true? Are

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these their assumptions as well? In conclusion it is the Labour Party in

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Birmingham which is rebuilding our city and getting our city back to

:18:58.:19:00.

work. Record numbers of new businesses and new investment and

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infrastructure. We have built more council homes any of the councils

:19:06.:19:07.

throughout the country. We have gotten more than 3000 people back to

:19:08.:19:13.

work. We promise and deliver the new weight from day one. Give us the

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tools and we will do the job. I have to say he claims everything for the

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Birmingham Labour administration. He can't claim eight is to go fishing

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in the city has anything to do with the Birmingham administration. Sadly

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this goes to my constituency and causes a great deal of grief. Madam

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Deputy Speaker, it is a welcome surprise to welcome the budget. In

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doing so I acknowledge that the British economy is far stronger.

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What we came into government in 2010, we took the difficult

:19:56.:20:00.

decisions and the British people reacted very positively to a

:20:01.:20:05.

conservative vision for the country. They active by starting businesses,

:20:06.:20:10.

creating jobs, and embracing a long-term economic plan. That

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long-term economic plan is often marked for its repetition. In truth

:20:15.:20:18.

it is responsible for the emergence of sound public finances, that

:20:19.:20:25.

private -- provide the security that people want an NHS free at the point

:20:26.:20:30.

of need and a good education system and security in old age. All of

:20:31.:20:37.

which we have on offer in the UK. I just want to mention a couple points

:20:38.:20:42.

that were perhaps not featured in other peoples contributions. I want

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to take the chance for tube of the announcements in issues budgets.

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First, for several years I work with my constituent Peter to gain a

:20:51.:20:59.

little work clean fuel duty work -- great. This fuel produces no

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particles and much reduced CO2. This should now play a great part in

:21:05.:21:07.

reducing street-level pollution in our cities. The tax cities have been

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postponed for bureaucratic reasons. There will be a new Treasury review.

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This is another example of how the EU holds back in the UK as it

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could've been introduced much earlier. As delighted -- I was

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delighted when the Chancellor announced any rate which was a very

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significant rate reduction from 51.5 pence. This will come in at the 1st

:21:36.:21:40.

of October 20 16. This will enable methanol to be brought to the market

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as it isn't finally on a level playing field with other

:21:47.:21:50.

clean-burning fuels. Secondly Madam Deputy Speaker, the Lynn log form is

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working to improve access to prophetic and wood chairs. We are

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pleased to welcome the announcement of a 1.5 million investment in

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sports prosthetics for children. Paste rehabilitation is a company

:22:12.:22:17.

with a base in Cheshire in my constituency. They work across the

:22:18.:22:24.

board for people with limb loss. They would like to meet individual

:22:25.:22:31.

needs. Thanks to their work and many others working in this area allowed

:22:32.:22:34.

our afternoon teas to live their lives to the fullest. They can even

:22:35.:22:38.

ski and cycle and snowboard again. I understand that pays prostheses have

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been brought to both ends of the world. However today is DCL G day.

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And, with others, but in him remains concerned about the impact of the

:22:51.:22:55.

budget. The large worry is the prospect of further cuts downstream

:22:56.:23:00.

to meet targets particularly in the light of recent developments. But

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county Council has applied for a four year the settlement but there

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is no guarantee this will be forthcoming. There are concerns of

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the small business rates... I hope they DCL G officials plans will be

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confirmed as forthcoming. Schools becoming academies is also some

:23:26.:23:30.

concern. What does this mean for the role of local authorities in

:23:31.:23:33.

providing additional support for those with special educational

:23:34.:23:36.

needs? If they have no power over any of their local schools, can we

:23:37.:23:39.

please have clarity from the Minister as to how to support going

:23:40.:23:48.

forward. Finally Madam Beckley Speaker I am concerned about the

:23:49.:23:51.

implications for social care and the National Autistic Society, with whom

:23:52.:23:57.

I work. They are facing concerns over the future of care homes and

:23:58.:24:00.

companies. I would be grateful if we could have at the chancellors

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assessment, the gaps in care funding between now and 2020. All in all

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Madam Deputy Speaker, I welcome this budget. However I could say the

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Chancellor a great deal of money and science. There is of course one

:24:14.:24:17.

project that could be asked that would put a lot of money in the chit

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the Treasury and that is of course a test tube. LAUGHTER I'm afraid I

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have to reduce the time by four minutes. We saw the economy growing

:24:29.:24:36.

and unemployment falling. Then we saw a longer recession and low

:24:37.:24:46.

growth for some period after that. He failed on his targets and his

:24:47.:24:54.

deficit targets. He and his service forecast for 2019th-2020 is with

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sketchy assumption, and fiscal studies have looked at him only

:25:03.:25:07.

meeting his target 50-50 sure. He would need to impose a proper tax

:25:08.:25:15.

and spending cuts. In terms of cuts to the disabled, we've already seen

:25:16.:25:20.

that these cuts for disabled people, despite 24,050,010, Forster and is

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filed, but recently, has seen disabled people lose. The real

:25:29.:25:31.

reason the government backtracked today, is it pointed lose the vote.

:25:32.:25:37.

They have also been hammered in terms of what the Labour Party as in

:25:38.:25:40.

most public have said over the recent days in the weekend. I cannot

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believe that the government actually has the face in the first place to

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try and promote these cuts and thought they could get away with it.

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One thing the government has failed to address in the budget, is that

:25:54.:25:58.

the women born in the 1950s and the disastrous way the government has

:25:59.:26:02.

handled their retirement, the government should go back again and

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look further at this. The local government Madam Deputy Speaker,

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once again has said and left the future of local government and the

:26:13.:26:17.

budgets announce our 3.5 billion pounds efficiency savings in

:26:18.:26:21.

non-protected areas. It is unclear whether all of us will fall on local

:26:22.:26:25.

government. We would also like to know where is the 4 billion that was

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going to be used in terms of cuts. Is that points to fall on local

:26:30.:26:35.

government as well? The total reduction in my constituency holds

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the council, for 2011 2017 and 18 is ?59 million or 57%. 16% of

:26:45.:26:51.

properties in 1629 properties in the last five years despite many more...

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That is a shortfall of four point to me and found the social curb

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funding. Only .8 million and percent social curve would generate. My

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Honorable friend from Sheffield South East has raised the issue of

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compensation for the business rate changes. This is the Council halts

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and said it's not an efficient counsel. The onus is to assess the

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counsels performance and strong financial management and delivers

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volume for money. I would just like the same few seconds I have left,

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Madam Deputy Speaker in terms of the NHS, the budget said nothing about

:27:43.:27:46.

and had no answers at all to solve the growing crisis of the NHS. They

:27:47.:27:54.

giving NHS lesson the half of the support for their service. The fact

:27:55.:27:59.

is that the government has not helped the prices of the NHS and

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Debbie on Sunday has said it should be dismissed. For 15 to 16 billion

:28:05.:28:10.

more because they believed he was mad and it was unaffordable. This is

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the real problem with the NHS, the government is not looking at the

:28:19.:28:21.

payments mechanism which has seen ridiculous amounts of demands for

:28:22.:28:27.

the NHS and hospitals cannot have. There is no answers on this budget

:28:28.:28:36.

from the NHS. I want to pick up on what the Secretary of State has to

:28:37.:28:44.

say about local plans. I have the honour of having served on the local

:28:45.:28:49.

plant expert group throughout the length of this day. The reason this

:28:50.:28:53.

is important can be seen in the national planning framework, which

:28:54.:28:58.

the Secretary of State referred to. It says local plan should be the key

:28:59.:29:01.

to delivering sustainable development that reflects the vision

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and aspirations of local communities. That is the thing that

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is missing, where people do not produce a local plans. During the

:29:10.:29:13.

course of the production of our report, we have many reasons as to

:29:14.:29:20.

why local plans were not produced. Those included housing needs,

:29:21.:29:23.

difficulties with the duty to co-operate, and a lack of local

:29:24.:29:29.

political commitment to producing it, a lack of clarity on key issues

:29:30.:29:34.

in a lack of guidance. If I can turn to the issue of the slides, there's

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a lack of an agreed approach. This is one of the most complex and

:29:43.:29:48.

controversial issues when it comes to producing a local plan. There

:29:49.:29:58.

needs to be guidance on how to produce leading to significant

:29:59.:30:00.

taking away and disagreement and uncertainty of housing numbers.

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Coupled with that we need a proper identification of the housing market

:30:08.:30:11.

areas, particularly with local authorities. The second element of

:30:12.:30:18.

this can be seen in what the national planning policy framework

:30:19.:30:21.

refers to as local plans as being the start of the process, to

:30:22.:30:26.

identify needs as being the start of the process. There is need to ensure

:30:27.:30:33.

that we have an environmental assessment of capacity within an

:30:34.:30:39.

area, for councils to be able to decide how those figures can be

:30:40.:30:46.

adjusted. There is no need for councils to provide for all of the

:30:47.:30:52.

houses that are required, where they can find a way to do so would be

:30:53.:30:59.

where the difficulty of doing that would out weigh the benefit of

:31:00.:31:03.

producing. Very few companies provide that sort of information and

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it is essential that we do go down that route. One of the other points

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that I would bring out from that is the need for an early MOT, in the

:31:15.:31:23.

plan process. If you look at the production, you get to the end of

:31:24.:31:27.

the process where you are told that you made a mistake in the plan. That

:31:28.:31:34.

is not a suitable way of going along that process. There should be at

:31:35.:31:40.

least one are to intermediary in the OT sessions, where the parties are

:31:41.:31:43.

told that they are going in the right direction. It does not give

:31:44.:31:49.

them the certainty to agree to the figures but it does give them an

:31:50.:31:56.

idea that they are going in the right direction. Finally on the

:31:57.:32:00.

five-year housing, we think that that should be taken away completely

:32:01.:32:05.

from the local plans. That should be a separate document that is put in

:32:06.:32:10.

the local Monitor report, the local annual monitoring report of the

:32:11.:32:15.

local counsel. Here he can be monitored to determine on an annual

:32:16.:32:20.

basis and come up with figures against which there can be no

:32:21.:32:25.

arguments while they are in that annual monitor report and which will

:32:26.:32:30.

determine the amount of housing me for

:32:31.:32:34.

This is a budget which does not tackle a fundamental weakness that

:32:35.:32:40.

is still an art economy. It is a budget which despite the secretary

:32:41.:32:45.

of state's lofty rhetoric says that he knows best. It takes in the

:32:46.:32:51.

poorest to boost the income of the richest. In recent years, the

:32:52.:32:58.

weaknesses and our economy had become marked. The remain hugely

:32:59.:33:03.

dependent on financial services in London. The jobs that are being

:33:04.:33:07.

created are predominately short-term, low-paid, and with

:33:08.:33:13.

little employment protection. Small and medium-sized businesses still

:33:14.:33:16.

can't get the capital and lending they need to create jobs and wealth.

:33:17.:33:22.

Productivity is lower than all of our biggest competitors. Among the

:33:23.:33:25.

many specific disappointments with this budget is that faster progress

:33:26.:33:31.

towards full fiscal back fiscal devolution... Is tackling the

:33:32.:33:39.

housing crisis in London at the mayor and assembly can't match the

:33:40.:33:43.

tax regime around housing to help me Londoners needs. Full devolution of

:33:44.:33:49.

property taxes to London is essential. This budget offers little

:33:50.:33:58.

for investment and public services as others in the House have alluded

:33:59.:34:03.

to. The NHS is struggling to balance its books with a number of NHS

:34:04.:34:13.

trusts in serious financial distress. Our hospital has had a

:34:14.:34:23.

deficit since 20 time. That has been rising ... The waiting times in

:34:24.:34:33.

accident and emergency of all English hospitals in the last 12

:34:34.:34:40.

months. Our clinical commissioning group receives less funding than any

:34:41.:34:45.

other London area. It is in deficit. It has been since it was set up. By

:34:46.:34:51.

last year, its underlying deficit had risen to ?21.1 million. It

:34:52.:34:56.

doesn't look like the budget is going to lead to much improvement in

:34:57.:35:04.

the NHS's finances. Position for others services is not better. The

:35:05.:35:17.

equivalent of an experienced teacher or for teachers systems. That is

:35:18.:35:24.

before the schools are forced to become academies. We have fewer

:35:25.:35:31.

police officers inheritance 2010, and fewer than virtually other

:35:32.:35:40.

London boroughs. According to House of Commons Library analysis is one

:35:41.:35:54.

of the worst local funded, of other members get between 25 and 50% more

:35:55.:36:00.

than Herod dead. I hope even at this late stage, the Chancellor will

:36:01.:36:07.

recognise the need to fully change and invest more in public services

:36:08.:36:11.

and in a more fair way. My constituents certainly hope so.

:36:12.:36:20.

Having just returned from my constituency for the topic has been

:36:21.:36:24.

the budget, I wanted to share how my constituents constituencies are. We

:36:25.:36:35.

have seen first-hand the benefit of how the conservative government

:36:36.:36:45.

delivered a strong stable economy. There are 380 and more registered

:36:46.:36:52.

enterprises and hundreds of smaller businesses thriving. I want to

:36:53.:36:57.

praise the support of small businesses through the Chancellor's

:36:58.:37:06.

business measures. Over 600,000 small businesses will benefit but a

:37:07.:37:12.

saving of up to ?5 or ?900. This'll make it easier for them to flourish.

:37:13.:37:18.

Members of all sides of the House should welcome that. I welcome a

:37:19.:37:28.

rule constituency, and I am his neighbour. We must not forget rural

:37:29.:37:34.

people and businesses. I am delighted that this budget is

:37:35.:37:37.

extending the opportunity of devolution to rural areas. We are

:37:38.:37:43.

hoping to join together with West Sussex and Surrey to create a

:37:44.:37:47.

devolved authority, something I am proud to back. Local people know

:37:48.:37:52.

their areas past. They know how to run their affairs. I will welcome an

:37:53.:37:55.

update from the Minister on how this is progressing in their closing

:37:56.:37:59.

remarks. I stand here with a couple of requests on the behalf of the

:38:00.:38:04.

good people of Wilton. Jansen announced a number of infrastructure

:38:05.:38:12.

projects -- the Chancellor. I want to champion the rural powerhouse.

:38:13.:38:25.

These are key roads connecting towns and their families, and they need

:38:26.:38:29.

improvements. Not just aesthetic ones. I hope that ministers will be

:38:30.:38:36.

able to put gentle pressure to look favorably on as in the next round of

:38:37.:38:40.

investment. This is vital to keep pace with the Council. Their

:38:41.:38:53.

commitment needs to be matched with real-time funding for my

:38:54.:39:04.

constituencies roads. I have recently conducted a survey and this

:39:05.:39:08.

is something that they were asking for, as well as requesting me to

:39:09.:39:15.

come along. What about a good old glass of wine? What has he done to

:39:16.:39:20.

offend each answer so much that it has been left out? I am running out

:39:21.:39:27.

of time. This is a budget for the next generation. Let's ensure for

:39:28.:39:33.

both rural and urban communities alike. In the constituencies by

:39:34.:39:45.

supporting this budget with all the enthusiasm they can muster. And

:39:46.:39:50.

trying to accommodate as many colleagues as possible. I am

:39:51.:39:52.

reducing the time limit to three minutes. This is a budget which

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should have come to the aid of local government, and instead is

:40:01.:40:03.

continuing over the course of punishment for local government.

:40:04.:40:05.

This has been with us for a number of years.

:40:06.:40:20.

Cuts that were described by the conservative chairman of the local

:40:21.:40:29.

government associations thus, even if they stopped putting and potholes

:40:30.:40:38.

they would not have saved enough money to plug the financial black

:40:39.:40:47.

hole. I am proud of my City Council and Southhampton that has faced ?71

:40:48.:40:57.

million cutbacks. They kept at the libraries open across the city, the

:40:58.:41:03.

road repairing schemes up and running, kept all children's centres

:41:04.:41:09.

open, and yet spaces further shortfalls in its budget. We know

:41:10.:41:21.

where the cuts of ?3.5 billion announced by the Chancellor are

:41:22.:41:27.

going to fall. It will be on local government. That will exacerbate

:41:28.:41:38.

those holes. We also face a business rates revolution that I think we can

:41:39.:41:44.

described as a half baked revolution in terms of the ill thought out

:41:45.:41:55.

major. -- nature. It will see local government having to rely on

:41:56.:42:01.

business rates and local taxation by 2020, and yet has not been thought

:42:02.:42:05.

out even to the extent of where changes in small business relief are

:42:06.:42:14.

coming from. We don't know, in terms of business rates, how the England

:42:15.:42:19.

to be distributed. We don't know whether the change from RPI to CPI

:42:20.:42:26.

will mean a substantial reduction. A budget which does not do anything to

:42:27.:42:30.

come to the aid of local government at a time when it absolutely needs

:42:31.:42:34.

it in terms of the people that are served by local government, the

:42:35.:42:40.

services that they rely on, in the future that they rely on for local

:42:41.:42:43.

government to provide them. It is a budget that has failed those people,

:42:44.:42:46.

as far as local government is concerned. I have to say I could not

:42:47.:42:58.

disagree more but the honourable member for South campers

:42:59.:43:04.

Southhampton test. It should be welcomed. The opportunities that

:43:05.:43:12.

devolution of business rates and other financial members give our

:43:13.:43:16.

real and should be seized. The business rates devolution is

:43:17.:43:21.

particularly welcome. I know that the secretary of state recognises

:43:22.:43:27.

that as a result of national policy the tax base that is reduced bulk be

:43:28.:43:35.

compensated by these section 31 grand. I hope that the Minister

:43:36.:43:38.

replying to the debate will take on board the importance that is... The

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top base is not there after eroded. For the department is currently in

:43:57.:44:00.

the six months consultation. That is a cup of Gatorade powder, and it is

:44:01.:44:03.

nonsense suggested by. It is always an element of

:44:04.:44:14.

redistribution that we do have to get that system right. We do not

:44:15.:44:19.

want to have too frequent a set of reset. There has to be a long term

:44:20.:44:23.

brand to get a real incentive to local authorities to invest. I hope

:44:24.:44:30.

that people use this ability of calculating the baseline to do

:44:31.:44:33.

greater justice to those authorities like mine that have a long record of

:44:34.:44:40.

the stored efficiencies. We have tended to calculate the local

:44:41.:44:45.

government finance settlements on needs versus resource matrixes. But

:44:46.:44:50.

does not take into account that some local authorities have been more

:44:51.:44:54.

efficient than others. I hope that we will find a measure for

:44:55.:44:59.

recognising and rewarding those councils with the short efficiency.

:45:00.:45:06.

It is possible to achieve comparable unit costs for services. That is

:45:07.:45:14.

something that we need to look for. That will give a further incentive

:45:15.:45:19.

to those authorities that use them any fall. That is a very important

:45:20.:45:26.

step forward, I welcome the news and graded lending -- Greater London.

:45:27.:45:33.

The logic I hope that the Minister will confirm is that that should

:45:34.:45:36.

apply to the London boroughs to because they are the collecting

:45:37.:45:40.

authorities for both tiers of business rates and very positive

:45:41.:45:44.

participate together and finding some of the ambitions devolution

:45:45.:45:46.

project in London that we are keen to draw forth. In the time allotted

:45:47.:46:00.

account of all of the items that make up the shambles of the budget.

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This government believes that the Academy Asian of our schools by 2020

:46:10.:46:18.

will address this... Especially for children with as EMD. Since

:46:19.:46:26.

publishing the white paper, I found many parents and organizations that

:46:27.:46:30.

contacted me regarding their concerns about what this will mean

:46:31.:46:33.

for children with autism, dyslexia, or other special education needs.

:46:34.:46:44.

They are then pushed into the local authorities. Once all schools are

:46:45.:46:50.

academies, who is going to take the excluded children with SEMD? These

:46:51.:46:55.

children are as worthy of others of perceiving a high-quality education.

:46:56.:46:57.

I hope that the government will ensure that we will continue to have

:46:58.:47:02.

an inclusive education system and that children with SEMD are not

:47:03.:47:07.

excluded in this fully a school system. This was seen when the

:47:08.:47:17.

Chancellor announced any million in London in the next phase of

:47:18.:47:23.

high-speed three. That would only go as far as leads. I wait with bated

:47:24.:47:37.

breath when the day that high-speed rails reach as in the Northeast. The

:47:38.:47:43.

Chancellor sees himself as the King of the North with his Northern

:47:44.:47:46.

Powerhouse project, when he needs to realise is that there is a lot more

:47:47.:47:50.

north before he gets to the wall. That is the Adrian Spall, not the

:47:51.:48:02.

one in game of thrones. He needs to realise there is a large section of

:48:03.:48:06.

the North between Yorkshire and Scotland. It is called the North

:48:07.:48:11.

East. And to ensure that investment is directed to our region also.

:48:12.:48:15.

There is still something that the Chancellor can do, and that is

:48:16.:48:19.

investing in the future of the natural. Metro. An estimated... With

:48:20.:48:35.

options for dual voltage which would give the network the ability to

:48:36.:48:37.

procure vehicles. With improved connectivity for other

:48:38.:48:53.

parts of the region, but also provide vital jobs we need to build

:48:54.:49:00.

this new fleet. It is a pleasure to be able to speak in this debate. I

:49:01.:49:05.

thank you for accommodating as many speakers as possible. The budget

:49:06.:49:08.

contained welcomed measures to improve our schools so that all

:49:09.:49:11.

children get the best start in life. It includes extra money to every

:49:12.:49:16.

school in England before or when it becomes an economy. This process is

:49:17.:49:26.

relevant to DCoG. The Academy programme is transforming education

:49:27.:49:32.

for thousands across the country. My closest to this means that I

:49:33.:49:39.

sympathise with frustrations that teachers express. I don't want to

:49:40.:49:43.

speak with vitriol. I want to say that I don't think that Eliezer has

:49:44.:49:50.

been all bad. In many circumstances they have empowered staff. I want to

:49:51.:49:58.

emphasise it is important that the government get the policy clear, and

:49:59.:50:01.

I hope will be implemented in a considered way without rancour on

:50:02.:50:06.

any side of school or local authorities. This budget accelerate

:50:07.:50:12.

the move towards fairer funding for schools which I have welcomed after

:50:13.:50:16.

a long campaign. I presented a petition to this house calling for a

:50:17.:50:21.

fairer school funding formula signed by hundreds of local parents and

:50:22.:50:26.

teachers and might constituency. And delighted on behalf of my

:50:27.:50:28.

constituents that their voices being heard. The Jets informed Wednesday

:50:29.:50:37.

that the unfair system would be replaced by a national funding

:50:38.:50:45.

formula. The starkness of the discrepancy in the funding for

:50:46.:50:50.

schools was brought home to me when I visited a school in Stockport on

:50:51.:50:57.

Friday. They work with some of the most vulnerable students in my

:50:58.:51:02.

constituency, it yet their pupil allocation is several pounds less. I

:51:03.:51:12.

also welcome the new 20 million a year school strategy which will help

:51:13.:51:16.

transform northern schools and tackle the discrepancies of school

:51:17.:51:19.

performance enhancing the educational progress and some parts

:51:20.:51:22.

of the North back behind the rest the country. I welcome many elements

:51:23.:51:27.

of this budget, particularly those I just referred to, but I... It is

:51:28.:51:36.

important to keep our country on the right track to recovery and

:51:37.:51:39.

continued to grow faster than any of our European neighbours. It is also

:51:40.:51:42.

important that we take the right decisions to make people better off

:51:43.:51:47.

never to be vulnerable, to help the business, and invest and are

:51:48.:51:54.

children of the next generation. It seems to me that there are moments

:51:55.:51:58.

in politics when advanced have a profound effect on politics. I

:51:59.:52:04.

believe that this budget and the subsequent resignation of the

:52:05.:52:07.

Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, is one of those moments.

:52:08.:52:12.

When the former secretary of state referred to a deeply unfair budget

:52:13.:52:17.

and he was quoted as saying that we are drifting in a direction that

:52:18.:52:22.

divides society rather than united it, and it looks like we see this as

:52:23.:52:26.

a pot of money. It does not matter because they don't vote for us. This

:52:27.:52:32.

strikes at the very heart of any sense from the conservatives that we

:52:33.:52:36.

are all in this together. Of course, it reinforces the view of the public

:52:37.:52:41.

of the conservatives that ultimately they will not govern for the whole

:52:42.:52:47.

of the country. I think that is a profoundly dangerous moment for the

:52:48.:52:51.

conservatives. It seems to me that this is dangerous and to specific

:52:52.:52:57.

suspects. For the rich and poor review cut taxes for better off

:52:58.:53:02.

people and striking those with disability, but at the same time

:53:03.:53:08.

completely protecting the interests of better off older people while

:53:09.:53:13.

putting all of the burden of welfare cuts on those of working age. That

:53:14.:53:18.

is not fair. The former well respected conservative minister has

:53:19.:53:23.

talked about the break in energy should direct -- intergenerational

:53:24.:53:29.

fairness. This is an example of that. I want to focus on the NHS and

:53:30.:53:37.

care. This was not mentioned at this budget, and yet it seems to me that

:53:38.:53:41.

we are sleepwalking towards the edge of precipice. It is accepted by

:53:42.:53:47.

everyone that we are looking at a gap in the budget of about ?30

:53:48.:53:53.

billion in he NHS by 2020. The gap of about ?6 billion in social care,

:53:54.:53:58.

according to the independent health foundation. That does not take into

:53:59.:54:01.

account another ?1 billion for the increased cost of the minimum wage.

:54:02.:54:06.

We urge you to spend a reducing percentage of our national income on

:54:07.:54:13.

housing care between now and 2020. -- we are due. If we are to have any

:54:14.:54:18.

chance of achieving the objective of genuine equality for those who

:54:19.:54:24.

suffer from mental ill health. It requires an investment. That is not

:54:25.:54:28.

coming from this government. I repeat my plea to the government

:54:29.:54:33.

that we worked together on this. Partisan politics have still to come

:54:34.:54:37.

up with a solution. We need a cross party commission to get to grips

:54:38.:54:41.

with this and come up with a long-term settlement for both the

:54:42.:54:46.

NHS and for care for the 21st century. I wanted to speak this

:54:47.:54:56.

evening about two issues, the northern pal powerhouse and

:54:57.:55:00.

devolution. Neither of these initiatives... They are an awful lot

:55:01.:55:06.

better than anything we have seen here over the last 20 years. The

:55:07.:55:14.

party opposite might want do that. When we came in, ?1 was being

:55:15.:55:21.

borrowed for every ?4 that were being spent and we are trying to

:55:22.:55:24.

find that. The party opposite is right on it is taking us longer than

:55:25.:55:29.

the thought. Perhaps they wanted us to cut harder. This evening, we

:55:30.:55:32.

heard that as well as the bedroom tax, every single cut that has been

:55:33.:55:40.

made is now gone. We haven't even heard the members saying that the

:55:41.:55:46.

pension age has been changed and that should not have happened. I was

:55:47.:55:57.

waiting for him to mention, but it did not come. The Member for

:55:58.:56:01.

Copeland talked about the need for credibility. They would be credible

:56:02.:56:07.

if occasionally they said that cut is reasonable. Instead of just

:56:08.:56:13.

saying that it is all wrong. The real lack of credibility is a

:56:14.:56:17.

failure to recognise that some public services can only be based

:56:18.:56:27.

upon sound economics? More debt is cruelty. Hear, hear! It comes back

:56:28.:56:36.

to credibility. A plea that I fear has fallen on deaf ears. --

:56:37.:56:51.

it looks like this budget that we made a mistake. That has been

:56:52.:56:57.

acknowledged and it will be fixed. The party opposite's contribution to

:56:58.:57:02.

that is not to say that that was a mistake. Everything is a mistake!

:57:03.:57:12.

That was interesting because they are the progressive party in this

:57:13.:57:16.

place. We heard from their position about what the Scottish Government

:57:17.:57:20.

is doing on homelessness and how much better it is than we are

:57:21.:57:25.

managing in England. If they've are progressive, if they really cared

:57:26.:57:28.

about homelessness in England, they would look at the formula and say we

:57:29.:57:32.

will go for a formula based on need. The walls just take everything we

:57:33.:57:38.

can get as a major policy initiative, and still call ourselves

:57:39.:57:43.

the progressive party. I want to move on to the Northern

:57:44.:57:48.

Powerhouse... I have one final point to make. Tax cuts. Tax cuts for

:57:49.:57:54.

millionaires. Capital gains tax. I don't particularly approve of this.

:57:55.:58:01.

Has been cut from 28% to 20%. 20% is still 2% higher than it was for the

:58:02.:58:06.

entire period of the last Labour government. Could not make it up. I

:58:07.:58:12.

said I was going to talk about the Northern Powerhouse. I want for very

:58:13.:58:17.

long. I want to say this. The problem that the Northern Powerhouse

:58:18.:58:21.

is trying to fix is the difference in GBA between the north of our

:58:22.:58:25.

country, the English region, we are very London centric. That's the

:58:26.:58:33.

difference reached a peak in 2009 in the last year of the last Labour

:58:34.:58:38.

government when the city was allowed to run for cirque. It is right that

:58:39.:58:44.

it has been fixed. I have time to make one point. I would like the

:58:45.:58:46.

Northern Powerhouse initiative to have clear metric assigned to it in

:58:47.:58:54.

terms of GVA and transport infrastructure. It is hard to equate

:58:55.:58:55.

money being spent with any sort of Thank you Mr Speaker. With a short

:58:56.:59:13.

time available to me. I would like to make a couple of points about

:59:14.:59:18.

what I believe to be a cynical and desperate budget. It is cynical

:59:19.:59:22.

because it is designed to deliver some parts of the electorate while

:59:23.:59:26.

hoping that people will not notice how these benefits of being

:59:27.:59:31.

delivered. It is desperate because of the failure to meet the target

:59:32.:59:36.

the Chancellor has set. It is throwing all common decency out of

:59:37.:59:41.

the window to save face. The proposal to deliver cuts in capital

:59:42.:59:45.

games tax, overwhelmingly benefit well-off individuals by cladding

:59:46.:59:50.

Independence payments to disabled people. This was a despicable plan.

:59:51.:59:56.

Further cuts to support for disabled people is unacceptable. These cuts

:59:57.:00:01.

are precisely the type of this port that enables disabled people to have

:00:02.:00:05.

greater control and lead more independent lives and is as

:00:06.:00:09.

incompetent as it is cruel. People across the country have made that

:00:10.:00:12.

outbreak of this proposal clear. While I am relieved that this

:00:13.:00:16.

government has you turn on this plan, quite frankly it is beggars

:00:17.:00:19.

belief that being Chancellor ever thought this was acceptable. Mr

:00:20.:00:24.

Speaker I am compelled to draw your attention to the budget in regards

:00:25.:00:28.

to homelessness. The Chancellor delete this announcement to the

:00:29.:00:32.

being standard the day before the budget. The CRD select committee for

:00:33.:00:41.

which I am a member has made an inquiry on homelessness. This

:00:42.:00:44.

supports brusquely pushed just a few hundred metres from this place. The

:00:45.:00:48.

dedicated staff there told us how prospecting is increasing. They told

:00:49.:00:52.

us how they struggle to keep up with the demand for their services and

:00:53.:00:56.

how government policy for these areas has directly contributed to

:00:57.:01:02.

making the problems worse. Rough sleeping in London has doubled in

:01:03.:01:10.

lambert alone there are over 108,000 households. This includes 5000

:01:11.:01:15.

children in one single for a living without the security of a permanent

:01:16.:01:21.

home. Additional funding for rough sleepers is welcome while ?150

:01:22.:01:24.

million out but at big number, this is a sticking plaster... I give

:01:25.:01:31.

white. I thank you for giving way there are an additional five plays

:01:32.:01:36.

related to housing in the budget, all of which raise more money for

:01:37.:01:40.

the Treasury. Does she think that those measures will impact on

:01:41.:01:43.

homelessness because they are some of the core fundamentals of

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providing housing in this country? I think this government approach to

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housing is flawed. The last Labour government reduce homelessness by

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60% but tackling because of homelessness is within his own gift,

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the single business cause of homelessness in London. If the

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housing and planning bill does nothing at all to reform the private

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vector. Even to the Chancellor, it should be crystal clear that rough

:02:15.:02:20.

sleepers can't afford starter homes. They will not benefit from lifetime

:02:21.:02:24.

license or the cut to capital gains tax. The homelessness in London the

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21st century is this government shame and in that context, it is

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imperative that the government reads things the housing and planning

:02:33.:02:36.

bill. They must make sure that resources are being directed to the

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bill for general affordable homes which are so badly needed. Mr

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Speaker this is a cynical desperate budget. I think this counsellor has

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been found out. I hope that will take the opportunity to have been

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presented to them this weekend, to rethink the budget comprehensively

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and that the Chancellor himself will come back to this house with a fair

:02:53.:02:58.

deal for disabled people, a very dear for art councils, and a plan to

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address the causes of homelessness and not just the symptoms. Hear,

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hear! Thank you Mr Speaker we are told that this is a budget for

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Telford, by the Honorable member from Telford, certainly not a budget

:03:17.:03:20.

for disabled people, young people or low income families. It is not a

:03:21.:03:24.

budget either for businesses. Because the budget that projects a

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systematic reduction for this, cannot be good for businesses. I

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want to briefly mention the guilt. There was a city deal earlier this

:03:40.:03:43.

year of 120 lien pounds. This is a roughly a third of what Manchester

:03:44.:03:49.

got. I would suggest this is not critically for Aberdeen either. It

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was suggested that this is going to be helpful for families. It is not

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only helpful for anyone who is not want to be able to buy a home or

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support themselves into retirement. In order to to support a family that

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to started having children for example. As a member for Aberdeen,

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you would expect that I would talk about all a gas. We welcome the

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changes that we need, the effective abolition of the petroleum tax and

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the supplementary charge being half. These are welcome. There are still

:04:25.:04:27.

major issues with oil and gas sector. It is very difficult for

:04:28.:04:31.

companies to find finance at the moment. I'm not talking about large

:04:32.:04:38.

infrastructure projects where there will be both guarantees in

:04:39.:04:41.

day-to-day business, because he or changes five. It is really checked

:04:42.:04:45.

tough for companies and their struggling to find finance. Some of

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the banks, although there seemed nice words to parliamentarians, are

:04:50.:04:55.

actually not lending to oil companies. Those of the companies

:04:56.:04:58.

that we need to be supporting just now. In terms of decommissioning, it

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is welcome. I would like to briefly mention the fact that

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decommissioning costs... The moment the commission can be pushed out,

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the better in terms of the UK Treasury. This will be of benefit.

:05:17.:05:21.

It is very important that the UK as one of the first bills to reach

:05:22.:05:30.

maturity, learns fast and gets exporting expertise. We need to

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support that. Thank you Mr Speaker. Does that not speak to the water

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concerns that we have expressed a number of times this month that she

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is a a really an urgent matter for the procedure to commit -- consider.

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I thank my Honorable friend for bringing this up. This leads to my

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next point which is about how the budget works and how the process

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works for this. Honestly we've had a very short time for speeches today.

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In terms of the budget and the documentation that we are provided

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with, there is a total lack of clarity. In relation to the budget

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minded is clear. There are budget lines around cathedrals and cultural

:06:16.:06:18.

investment. But there is no clarity, even if you look at the common

:06:19.:06:23.

statement and funding policy, there is no clarity on whether or not

:06:24.:06:27.

those things will generate consequential and what percentage

:06:28.:06:32.

there is in relation to that. It is very difficult for MPs to scrutinize

:06:33.:06:37.

this. The test view committee says that the House of Commons the time

:06:38.:06:42.

or expertise or inclination to undertake any systematic or expected

:06:43.:06:47.

examination of whatever tax rules the government has for approval.

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Part of this is because of the complexity of tax rules. Taxes are

:06:52.:06:59.

on individuals personally and casualties are provided to families.

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So it is quite a complex thing to work out. But I think the lack of

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scrutiny that MPs are able to provide to the budget process,

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because for example we have hardly any time to discuss it today. The

:07:11.:07:15.

information that would provide with is not enough for us to be

:07:16.:07:19.

effectively scrutinize. I think this process needs to be improved as a

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matter of urgency Mr Speaker. Hear, hear! Indispensable, deeply unfair

:07:23.:07:31.

and distinctly political. My words for this budget. But also the words

:07:32.:07:36.

of the recently departed DWP Secretary. It is our Labour

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judgement of this budget. It is also the judgement of many fair-minded

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government MPs. Most important of all it is the judgement of the

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British people, who when they were pulled over this weekend, the large

:07:52.:07:55.

majority said this government has got its priorities wrong. It is the

:07:56.:08:02.

political crisis, it is one of the Chancellor's own making. The same

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failure of political government judgement that led to tax credits

:08:08.:08:14.

before being forced to backtrack. The fill your political government

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that led the cemetery to say, it looks like it does not matter

:08:19.:08:24.

because they don't vote for us. Mr Speaker the Institute for Fiscal

:08:25.:08:28.

Studies and resolution foundation both say this is a starkly

:08:29.:08:34.

regressive budget. The rich getting most. Before getting the lease. A

:08:35.:08:44.

type syntax. The tycoon tax cut of over ?3 billion, benefiting the very

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richest. An income tax cut up to billion pounds benefiting the better

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off. Alongside that a cut in disability benefits worth over ?4

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billion. That was Wednesday. Today is five days later. Today we have

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heard from the new DWP secretary that there will be no moral welfare

:09:10.:09:13.

of cuts. So the Chancellor's long-term economic land, long-term

:09:14.:09:21.

fiscal plan, lasted just five days. The Chancellor, if we take the new

:09:22.:09:26.

DWP secretary at face value, still has a 424 billion dollar shortfall

:09:27.:09:37.

to meet his death as it plans. The Secretary of State to open this

:09:38.:09:40.

debate told the House that none of the cost of business rate cuts will

:09:41.:09:44.

come out of local government funding. All will be compensated in

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full by section 31 grants. He judged of the House the page 84 of the

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Redbook, line 15, explain that. That details of the cuts to business

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rate. Not the source of the compensation. There is no other

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reference in the Redbook. That means the Chancellor with a further fresh

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fiscal short fall of six points ?7 billion over five years. The

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Secretary of State himself would otherwise have to find that money

:10:20.:10:24.

from savings within his own budget. Mr Speaker the Chancellor may have

:10:25.:10:28.

caused a political crisis for the Conservative Party but much more

:10:29.:10:32.

serious are the fiscal and economic problems he is causing for the

:10:33.:10:37.

country, which relate there in this budget. Downgraded growth,

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downgraded pay, downgraded to throw the TV. The chancellors of new

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physical man and a broken already, as the LP are confirmed to GDP is

:10:48.:10:52.

rising and said there is only a 50-50 chance that he would hit his

:10:53.:10:58.

deficit target as well. Never mind all the show shambles, this is the

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ultra shambled budget. It really comes to something Mr Speaker went

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at number ten Downing St, over the weekend, Greece to play up because

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somebody -- Conservative Party splits on Europe, because it splits

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on fiscal and social policy are even more damaging. Mr Speaker I do feel

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for the 27 Honorable members who have spoken, living their time from

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five minutes to four minutes and so on. I would like to have heard more

:11:33.:11:37.

from the Honorable member Hazel Grove and how he believes that local

:11:38.:11:41.

authorities and education authorities have an important role

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and have not all been bad. I would like to have heard more from the

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Honorable member about the national infrastructure commission, a good

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idea, a Labour idea. I'm glad to see the government is putting into

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practice. I would like to have heard more from the Honorable member when

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he was saying quite rightly, that we have to be ultra careful not to

:12:04.:12:06.

write off those who can't work. As he said there is no hierarchy of

:12:07.:12:10.

human value. I would like to have heard more from the Honorable

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Emperor from North West Norfolk. I would like to hear about his deep

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opposition to mayors imposed by the Chancellor's condition to all

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dilution deals. Mr Speaker quite honestly the House should have heard

:12:27.:12:33.

more from our Honorable member about the budgets falling apart like the

:12:34.:12:36.

chances reputation. I would like to hear more from my Honorable friend

:12:37.:12:44.

from Barry Stout, with his warnings about the dilution deals for greater

:12:45.:12:49.

Manchester with school improvement and social care on Council funding.

:12:50.:12:55.

Infrastructure announcements were actually re-announcements about

:12:56.:12:59.

without the funding to make them work. My boss Frank Copeland, not in

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his place, but he met a really important point about how the

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Chancellor in this project is unable to make the sums add up. He is

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failing. My Honorable friend's constituency is failing and my right

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honourable friend from Hochschild reinforced that. This is a budget he

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said that is failing the younger generation. My Honorable friend and

:13:26.:13:37.

member for Holton, said that... Model friend Harrow West said the

:13:38.:13:40.

Chancellor is making the challenges facing the public services in this

:13:41.:13:44.

country much more difficult to make and he is right. Model friend.

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Hampton said this is continuing the punishment of local government that

:13:54.:13:56.

we have seen of the last five years. Quite honestly my Honorable member

:13:57.:14:00.

from Washington and Sunderland West was right to say enforcing all

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schools to become academies, we should be deeply concerned about

:14:09.:14:12.

those pupils with special education needs. Honorable friend from West

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Norwood was that the right about housing. On housing it strikes me

:14:21.:14:24.

that the Secretary of State that open this debate, clearly lacks the

:14:25.:14:28.

clout to be able to argue the departments case with the

:14:29.:14:35.

Chancellor. This had nothing to say on housing, nothing to reverse in

:14:36.:14:38.

six years of failure on housing. From rising homelessness to fall in

:14:39.:14:42.

home ownership. What a contrast to labours record in government. Where

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we more than half homelessness. 1 million more homeowners into million

:14:50.:14:51.

homes built during our period in government. In house and there was a

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huge hole in this budget. Nothing on the affordable homes, nothing on

:14:58.:15:03.

investment, nothing on tackling the causes of rising homelessness.

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Nothing to help in particular the housing pressures in London. This is

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the number one issue in London. The budget completely explodes of the

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claim of the want to meet Mayor, the mayor for Richmond Park. He says I

:15:18.:15:23.

can get a good deal from this conservative Chancellor and makes

:15:24.:15:26.

more urgent and more clear the case for evicting and Labour mayor. This

:15:27.:15:37.

is because this is billed as a budget for the future. Big talk on

:15:38.:15:45.

big infrastructure schemes but small print showing small bombs largely

:15:46.:15:49.

designed for feasibility study throughout the rest of parliament. I

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would say to the House of the size, don't listen to what the Chancellor

:15:54.:15:58.

says. Look at what he does. On infrastructure investment, into

:15:59.:16:06.

thousand nine into thousand ten, infrastructure investment in this

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country with the 20% of our wealth. It was 3-point to percent of our

:16:10.:16:14.

GDP. The Chancellor in 2010 and 20 11 cut that to to .5%. By the end of

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that first comedy was 1.I percent and he's doing it again at the end

:16:21.:16:24.

of this Parliament, where it will be just 1.5% of our GDP this country.

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The truth he used to title bout, by his own misjudge this cool rules for

:16:31.:16:35.

the good of the country. A ?10 billion surplus of the total budget

:16:36.:16:42.

by 2019 - 2020. This prevents doing what is needed most. Investing for

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the future I think in good homes, in good infrastructure projects. This

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is why the Honorable member of chairman of the Treasury committee

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says manually after the budget, he has altered his plans of only four

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months ago. So long is the rule remains in place, he will have to do

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so again, after the next best goal event. The next fiscal event. Fiscal

:17:08.:17:22.

policy without credibility, HSI without credibility. Mr Speaker we

:17:23.:17:30.

got a budget, a downgraded economy, from a diminished Chancellor,

:17:31.:17:34.

speaking to a divided party and for a damage government. This is a black

:17:35.:17:41.

hole budget. A budget like the Chancellor, that simply does not

:17:42.:17:43.

deserve the support from any side of this house. Hear, hear! Mr Speaker

:17:44.:17:58.

he suddenly put his sound bites earlier. This budget and the policy

:17:59.:18:09.

announced in it deliver the economic security printing needs. They are

:18:10.:18:12.

the commitments we set out in our manifesto last year. This budget

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helps deliver them. Over the past six years we have worked hard and we

:18:16.:18:20.

have made the tough decisions. This has brought our country's economy

:18:21.:18:25.

back on the break, with growth and jobs which are delivering greater

:18:26.:18:30.

economic security for everyone. Today I am proud that here in the

:18:31.:18:35.

UK, there are a record number of people in the works. The deficit is

:18:36.:18:40.

down by to third. We are well on the path to surplus. Our whole economy

:18:41.:18:48.

is set to grow faster next year than any other major advanced economy in

:18:49.:18:55.

the world. With the pace of growth in the global economy showing signs

:18:56.:18:58.

of weakening, now is the time to redouble our efforts. This is

:18:59.:19:05.

precisely what this budget does. Today the's debate is about dilution

:19:06.:19:09.

and local government. The foundations of our long-term success

:19:10.:19:13.

are each and every corner of this country. Every region makes it

:19:14.:19:20.

distinctive contribution to the UK's economic success. Every region

:19:21.:19:25.

benefits from this budgets programme growth. Listen to the facts. It is

:19:26.:19:32.

wealth where employment is going quickest. It is a shame we did not

:19:33.:19:37.

hear Welsh voices as today. It isn't the Welsh Midlands West Midlands

:19:38.:19:48.

where we will not deliver a budget for the next generation. Well the

:19:49.:19:52.

next generation is finding work in the West Midlands. It is it new

:19:53.:19:59.

Yorkshire and where the number of people claiming unemployment

:20:00.:20:02.

benefits are falling fast as. In a combination of greater dilution and

:20:03.:20:06.

investment and targeted support, this budget will allow our reasons

:20:07.:20:08.

to continue growing from strength to strength. Mr Speaker this is also a

:20:09.:20:15.

budget that delivers for the devolved administrations, to help

:20:16.:20:21.

Scotland there are tax breaks worth over ?1 billion to support the North

:20:22.:20:26.

Sea oil and gas industry during these times. Antifreeze in duty on

:20:27.:20:35.

Scotch whiskey. Action on all on gas, national fuel duty, and action

:20:36.:20:40.

on Scotch whiskey and we have delivered on all three fronts. Hear,

:20:41.:20:45.

hear!. To help whales, they're the one point to billion deal. There is

:20:46.:20:51.

a 50% reduction in tolls on the river crossing in 2018 and to help

:20:52.:20:59.

Northern Ireland reinvestments in the Northern Ireland enterprise. For

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all three of our devolved administrations, this budget

:21:04.:21:07.

delivers the benefits of being part of a strong successful United

:21:08.:21:09.

Kingdom, with the opportunities that come with dilution. For the cities

:21:10.:21:15.

and regions of England, this is a budget that creates fresh

:21:16.:21:19.

opportunities and opens new doors. For the north, the greater dilution

:21:20.:21:24.

to Liverpool and Manchester, and school strategy for the Northern

:21:25.:21:29.

Powerhouse. More than ?700 million for flat repairs and resilience,

:21:30.:21:34.

with extra money and go-ahead for ages three, bringing and Manchester

:21:35.:21:42.

closer together. For the Midlands to hundred ?50 million for the Midlands

:21:43.:21:47.

investment fund. A new dilution deal and a strong stench body to help

:21:48.:21:53.

provide the transport the Midlands needs. For East Anglia we have a new

:21:54.:21:58.

devolution deal and for the Member for North West Norfolk I can confirm

:21:59.:22:02.

?30 million of new money is indeed new money and elected mayor will be

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a single point of accountability. I can also confirm for the Member for

:22:09.:22:12.

Milton doubt that there is a plan to make the most of the Oxford

:22:13.:22:18.

Cambridge Milton teams corridor. For the Southwest there is almost ?20

:22:19.:22:23.

million to help young families and for the mind in the green lights

:22:24.:22:26.

across road to. In addition policies such as the cut to business rates

:22:27.:22:33.

and our reforms to commercial duty will revitalise high streets up and

:22:34.:22:36.

down the country, including those in Barry Stout. This Mr Speaker is a

:22:37.:22:43.

budget for a nation of shopkeepers, whether they are in Cornwell or

:22:44.:22:50.

Chester. We have heard from 27 backbenchers into nights debate. We

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have heard from all over the country. Bolton West Birmingham

:22:59.:23:15.

Cheshire and am assure, Holton,... I have very little time. Washington

:23:16.:23:26.

and Sunderland West, net -- West Nolan. There was a number of common

:23:27.:23:30.

themes that came up in speeches for those areas. Almost everyone welcome

:23:31.:23:37.

the business rate cuts. Hear, hear!. This is a budget that puts more

:23:38.:23:41.

business job creators front and centre. There were a lot of points

:23:42.:23:44.

to be made about the northern infrastructure. Can I draw

:23:45.:23:48.

everyone's attention to page 77 of the budget Redbook? I am not

:23:49.:23:56.

referring to Miles Little red book on this occasion. Page 77 has a list

:23:57.:24:00.

of projects, including 130 million in terms of road repair funds. This

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would take care of storm damage in Cumbrian elsewhere. A number of

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colleagues mentioned dilution and the impact on business rates. I can

:24:14.:24:16.

confirm that local government will be compensated for the loss of

:24:17.:24:20.

income as a result of the business rates measured in the budget with a

:24:21.:24:28.

section 31 grams. The impact considered as part of the

:24:29.:24:32.

government's consultation on the implementation of 100% business rate

:24:33.:24:37.

retention in summer 2016. I would love to give way but I have not got

:24:38.:24:42.

time. In terms of the NHS which was raised by a number of colleagues, I

:24:43.:24:48.

am sure the College records -- the record amount going to her images,

:24:49.:24:53.

thanks to our strong economy. A number of colleagues welcome the

:24:54.:24:55.

there are funding for schools and the ultimate devolution of power to

:24:56.:24:59.

academies. I can confirm that there is a extra ?1.6 billion going into

:25:00.:25:05.

schools. There is no change at all to the S in obligations on schools.

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Mr Speaker we have heard over the course of the evening a fair number

:25:13.:25:17.

of rants and lectures from the opposition tonight. We will take no

:25:18.:25:23.

lectures from the party who crashed the economy in the first place. We

:25:24.:25:28.

would take no lectures on the party opposite plans had we followed

:25:29.:25:41.

them... Order. Speaker I wonder if you could advise me. I would ask the

:25:42.:25:45.

Minister who is speaking so ably and fluidly about the budget which is I

:25:46.:25:50.

think being very well welcomed on both sides of the House, in terms of

:25:51.:25:55.

certain elements as they are contained in the budget. I have

:25:56.:25:58.

asked the Minister to give way on to specific points that are raised in

:25:59.:26:01.

my contribution to this debate. Could you advise me on whether it is

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in order for the Minister to decline, on account of the amount of

:26:05.:26:12.

time as the speaking, when there is a considerable number of minutes

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left until ten o'clock? It is a matter for the judgement of the

:26:21.:26:24.

Minister. But the discontent of the former cabinet minister has been

:26:25.:26:32.

registered. The economic secretary. In that case Mr Speaker I will

:26:33.:26:35.

simply come in this budget to the House. Hear, hear! I was going to

:26:36.:26:47.

say that we wish to move to the adjournment and come to the point of

:26:48.:26:52.

order. Thank you the question is that the debate be now adjourned. As

:26:53.:27:02.

many that are of that opinion set I. Hear, hear! . I think the eyes have

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it. We will come to the point of order but I does must proceed with

:27:12.:27:14.

the requisite text. The debate to be resumed when? The debate will be

:27:15.:27:21.

resumed tomorrow. Thank you. Point of order. It is concerning that the

:27:22.:27:33.

next order will which is on the order paper today that I want to

:27:34.:27:39.

seek your guidance. I gather that under the standing orders of this

:27:40.:27:47.

place, sittings of the House and order 96, that after the business

:27:48.:27:51.

under consideration, and the moment of interruption, no post business

:27:52.:27:58.

shall be taken, save as provided in standing order number 15, exempted

:27:59.:28:04.

business. As I read the order paper Mr Speaker, there is a sittings

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motion for the business of the House on the high-speed rail London West

:28:15.:28:21.

Midlands bill, which is it comes to the floor of this house after 10pm,

:28:22.:28:26.

does not have to be debated. It is possible to object to that business

:28:27.:28:33.

of the House. Of course Mr Speaker you will appreciate that I earlier

:28:34.:28:43.

on, raised a point of order,. This noise is very uncharacteristic. We

:28:44.:28:49.

will debate in a seemly manner. The amount of noise he is making keeps

:28:50.:28:53.

me from hearing the right Honorable ladies order. In this for no order,

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if this order is heard after ten o'clock in this house, I want to

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confirm that there is no debate that a member can object to it and that

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the government can bring this back and put it on the order paper on the

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following day. I think it is important that we understand that

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anybody that chooses to object to this particular piece of business on

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the order paper, is not actually including the government at all. It

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is perfectly in order for them to bring it onto the order paper

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tomorrow and indeed if it is objected to tomorrow, it could be

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put on the order paper the following day. The particulars Mr Speaker,

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without it being put on the order paper with a penalty of taking time

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out of the very valuable debate, that I have been trying to get

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extended and would want to protect in terms of the measly three hours

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government has given us. is entirely correct. I trust that

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she is satisfied with that matter. We come now to motion number two on

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the business of the House high-speed rail London to West Midlands.

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LAUGHTER We usually have it moved first. The honourable gentleman can

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beg to move. Objection taken. Thank you. We come

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now to the adjournment. I beg to move that this House do now adjourn.

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The question is that this House do now adjourn. Thank you Mr Speaker.

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I'd like to start this evening by paying tribute to the doctors,

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nurses, and all of the staff working within the mid Yorkshire hospitals

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trust. As a resident in a patient I have nothing but praise for their

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hard work, dedication, and professionalism. Lord knows that the

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NHS is up against it. I'm continually humbled by the quiet and

:31:30.:31:35.

determined way that all the staff at these hospitals go about providing

:31:36.:31:39.

care and support in the face of what must seem like overwhelming odds. I

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want to congratulate my honourable friend at securing this critical

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debate for our local hospital. I just want to backer in the

:31:51.:31:54.

recognition that doctors, nurses, and other staff at the hospital have

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been working in crisis mode for 13 months. It is difficult to overstate

:31:58.:32:02.

how hard it must be numbing you are going to miss key targets. I think

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my honourable friend for that intervention and I agree. I think

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that we must pay tribute to our incredible junior doctors. Hear,

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hear! There can be no doubt that those working on the front line

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deserve our full backing. As members of Parliament, we owe it to them

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that they are all given the support that they need. The trust and its

:32:26.:32:31.

staff have to work in a challenging environment. In the area covered by

:32:32.:32:35.

the trust, the overall health of the population is below the English

:32:36.:32:42.

average. Life expectancy is lower than the national average for both

:32:43.:32:48.

men and women. The CQC expected the trust with a follow-up inspection.

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-- inspection. Although there were some

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improvements between the two main inspections there were also areas in

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which the trust's compartments were deteriorated. There was still

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serious concern regarding staffing levels. The CQC noticed that there

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was still a significant shortage of nurses that were having an effect on

:33:23.:33:28.

patient care. Particularly on the medical care wards and community

:33:29.:33:33.

inpatient services and with an end-of-life services. Two weeks ago

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my friend met with the trust's new interim chief executive. We were

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both very grateful for his candour. He told us that the leadership team

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has been in crisis mode for the last 14 months. He told us that the trust

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has recently put an hundred and 20 bed across the trust in order to

:33:53.:33:58.

cope with increasing demand, but the extra staff were nowhere to be seen.

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I think my honourable friend for giving way. Which he agreed with

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me... Is actually one of the most critical issues facing our national

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health industry and our ability to manage our hospitals? I think my

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honourable friend for that intervention and I will come to that

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point later. To make things more complex on the administrative side,

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the monthly separate reports are found to be overly detailed. Running

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over 100 pages making it difficult to identify the most urgent risks.

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The content that policies and procedures were not always

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identified. One nurse to every ... The CQC found that even the 128

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ratio was very inconsistently met. During the CQC's unannounced visit

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only one was staff that safe staffing levels. Temper at minimum

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level, and six for below minimum. In August 2015, records show that only

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71% of nursing hours were actually achieved. On the trust's, staff are

:35:25.:35:32.

constantly reallocated towards words essentially robbing Peter to pay

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Paul. A nurse told a patient that because they were so short staffed

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the nurses would have to choose which patient they were to save. The

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problem is particularly. 96% of ships used at least one nonpermanent

:35:58.:36:08.

member of staff. To shift had only a single registered nurse on duty. On

:36:09.:36:18.

average, 132 times a week during December. It you are right to

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prioritise patient safety over the government's financial target, it

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gives a target that there has been a failure and long-term workforce

:36:29.:36:30.

planning and that the trust is struggling to attract and retain

:36:31.:36:33.

appropriately qualified staff. Give credit where it is due. The trust

:36:34.:36:38.

have been making efforts to address the staffing issue. After the

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unannounced inspection to look at the actions. The high number of

:36:44.:36:53.

registered nurses and care staff agencies is now noted on the

:36:54.:36:57.

corporate risk register. They're looking at a range of different ways

:36:58.:37:00.

to get the best out of the available staff. The are investing in safety

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guardians to provide support and safeguarding for patients with

:37:08.:37:09.

mental health issues, freeing up time for registered nurses. They are

:37:10.:37:12.

putting extra effort and resources into filling gaps of looking to

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recruit nurses both locally and from Europe proactively recruiting,

:37:18.:37:20.

rather than waiting for staff to be. In terms of the safety of services

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provided by the trust, the CQC has rated these as an adequate largely

:37:26.:37:29.

due to the shortage of staff. Between May 2014 and 2015, there'll

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be 258 serious incidences reported of which 206 were covered by

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pressure also. That is indicative of nursing staff being rushed off their

:37:45.:37:46.

feet unable to provide the level of care for patients that they would

:37:47.:37:51.

like. There are also concerns raised about patients providing one care

:37:52.:38:06.

and not receiving it. In January, 81% were seen within four hours.

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Another the target is within five hours. Including six who waited more

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than 12 hours at the fuels. When it comes to statistics like this, I

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think we have to be very careful that each number represents a real

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person. People may be in pain, vulnerable, worried, or nervous.

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They may be upset, distress, I am only... They expect a certain level

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of service. NHS staff want to get that level of service. When they

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can't, the result is more than just a delay in treatment, the dignity of

:38:56.:39:00.

patients is also compromise. If you weeks ago, I received an e-mail from

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one of my constituents. He was on a trolley and a and E for 14 hours.

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After he was admitted, she found that his bed was a complete mess and

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her father was naked from the waist down. She was told that it was

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easier when he needed to urinate. His batting still had not been

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changed and she came back later this afternoon, which in the end she did

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herself. -- adding. At the moment, I am receiving

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similar sort of e-mails more than once a week. This is really

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alarming. All of this has been inevitable knock on effect of staff

:39:53.:39:58.

motivation. The results of the 2015 NHS staff survey showed just how low

:39:59.:40:03.

morale has sunk. In every Key indicator the results of depression.

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Every 54% of staff that they care to patients was a top priority compared

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to a national average for a 73%. 41% would recommend the trust is the

:40:24.:40:32.

place to work. Only 46% would be happy for a friend or relative to

:40:33.:40:40.

receive care from trust. This has been due to staff making mistakes

:40:41.:40:44.

and not being able to follow procedures to fully for want of

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time. This is a symptom of the short handedness which is been experienced

:40:49.:40:53.

on the wards, and it contributes to the general air of despondency that

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staff are being penalised for not being able to be in two places at

:40:57.:41:00.

once. I have personally spoke to a number of past and present members

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of staffing and the trust who informed me that they failed to

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whistle blow for fear of French Vichy. The feeling of being worn

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down is affecting staff at all levels. I was told by the interim

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chief executive just last week that the board had been operating in a

:41:16.:41:21.

crisis mode for the last 14 months. This is now taking its toll. There

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is a general feeling of chaos. Tempers are fraying, and it is

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severe instability in terms of XML and management teams. -- person out.

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The CQC's does it noted that staff from a confident than they had been

:41:43.:41:54.

previously. The feeling is by no means universal. A slight

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improvement from such a Lopez is hardly a cause for celebration. When

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it comes to the underlying causes of these problems that the government

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has to take the chair of the blame. They've failed to ensure that the

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NHS has the level of staff that it needs to provide a safe and caring

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service. Thousands of nurses who should have begun trading between

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2010 and 2012 and would not week qualified -- and would have been

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qualified. The whole ethos of the NHS has been warped from one of

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service and care to one of financial management. The health service fees

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to keep on an even keel, but one we find ourselves in a position for a

:42:44.:42:47.

cash strapped trust feels it appropriate to hire city consultants

:42:48.:42:52.

like Ernst and Young then alarm bells should stop start ringing.

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Given that staff is still struggling to keep their heads above water,

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they could actually completely be forgiven for questioning whether

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that was money well spent. She is making a powerful and personal case.

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Does she agree with me that the government has responsibility here.

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Not only the cuts to public health funding, Junior Doctor's contracts,

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they have to take responsibility for this crisis and not just pass the

:43:29.:43:36.

buck to an embattled NHS Trust. I think my honourable friend for that

:43:37.:43:41.

intervention. I absolutely agree. The buck stops with the government.

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We need to see action not platitudes. I have been told a

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number of times now that the issue lies in the plans. I say that this

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is putting the cart before the horse. It is 70% of patient beds

:43:59.:44:06.

will be lost into Sperry, and the simple fact is that this will put

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less at risk. Leaving aside the arguments as to whether the reforms

:44:13.:44:17.

are necessary, it is not safe to have this major restructuring right

:44:18.:44:21.

in the middle of a major staffing crisis. Financial considerations are

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overriding clinical concerns. The trust have consulting on proposals

:44:25.:44:26.

to bring the reconfiguration for it, and I am unequivocal that while the

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trust is in a state of flux, discussions must focus solely on

:44:30.:44:34.

improving safety and quality and I urge the board to abandon these

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plans. I have written to be Secretary of State about the serious

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worries over what is going on on many Yorkshire trust. The Minister

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agreed to meet with me and at a concert in peace next month to

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discuss this in more detail. I want to reinforce the point with them

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that we are in danger of forgetting the lessons learned from the Mid

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Staffs situation about the absolute priority that has to be given to

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save staffing levels. Unless he can crack this beginning the qualified

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staff we need, and not every organisation will make up for poor

:45:10.:45:12.

care. We must break the spiral verbalizations, so they can help

:45:13.:45:14.

patients and staff who are currently getting the short end of the stick.

:45:15.:45:23.

His vision of universal health care, free at the point of delivery, is

:45:24.:45:29.

just as valid today as it was then. He said that the NHS will last as

:45:30.:45:35.

long as there are folk ready to fight for it. We must stand together

:45:36.:45:38.

now for the NHS and support the staff to go above and beyond the NHS

:45:39.:45:44.

every single day. It is our duty as parliamentarians to continue that

:45:45.:45:48.

fight for those, get still have faith and as hot founding

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principles. Free at the point of delivery. Hear, hear! Thank you Mr

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Speaker. May I think the honourable Lady for bringing this matter to the

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House and for her powerful introduction to the concerns of his

:46:08.:46:13.

constituents. I think also the honourable member for Buckingham who

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intervened on her. I have felt the pressure of their concerned, quite

:46:20.:46:24.

rightly raised with me privately. I hope so again in the next couple of

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weeks. I like very much the fact that she ended on this important

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anniversary. It is a few weeks before we have the anniversary of

:46:37.:46:41.

the second reading at the end bill as it then was. The 17th

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anniversary, which is on the 30th of April, I believe Mr Speaker. On that

:46:46.:46:52.

point he made two points about the introduction of the NHS. The first

:46:53.:46:57.

was the one that we all know. They should be a service free at the

:46:58.:47:01.

point of need. He made another point which for him was as important as

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the establishment of the National Health Service, which has been

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forgotten by politicians on both sides of the last 70 years. To him

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it was as important. The principle of universalizing the best. He made

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a powerful argument at the time that the bees in for a universal and was

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not just to ensure that people can approach the service and not have to

:47:27.:47:30.

worry about money, but also someone who came from part of the country

:47:31.:47:34.

for traditionally there was not that hospital care and could rely on the

:47:35.:47:38.

same quality of service that they would expect to get in a more

:47:39.:47:42.

wealthy are better served part of the country. Establishing the first

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part of his dreams, we have done well. In establishing the second, we

:47:47.:47:54.

have not yet succeeded. Her constituents in part have been at

:47:55.:47:57.

the raft and at that. There have been successive years under

:47:58.:48:02.

governments of all kinds are we have not been universalizing the best

:48:03.:48:07.

across the service. There are hospitals not very far from hers

:48:08.:48:16.

that are delivering exceptionally good and consistent levels of

:48:17.:48:20.

nursing care. They are doing so with similar pressures to her own. She

:48:21.:48:27.

correctly identified those that are apply across the service. There are

:48:28.:48:32.

historical problems in mid Yorkshire which is going to be difficult to

:48:33.:48:35.

grapple with. I completely understand why she feels that

:48:36.:48:41.

commissioners might not have gotten the full enough grasp of the

:48:42.:48:46.

problems in her area. I will give way and a second. That is why she

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questions the basis of reconfiguration. On that point

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before I give way, I understand that the assurance exercises of the

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reconfiguration is nearing its end and it will publish at some point in

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the near future. I hope that that will give what it is supposed to,

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which is assurance that the accelerated reconfiguration can be

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done and take into account the legitimate point that she has made

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about the readiness of the reconfiguration of social care

:49:15.:49:16.

services in the area. We should cross that area will make it to a. I

:49:17.:49:22.

have no power to change reconfiguration decisions, nor does

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the Secretary of State. Make Yorkshire trust has the third

:49:29.:49:33.

highest number of admittance is anywhere in the country. In that

:49:34.:49:37.

context, I would like to share the concerns of my honourable friend of

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the planned reorganisation is a serious concern for local residents

:49:43.:49:47.

and for my constituents. It would be wonderful to have his commitment to

:49:48.:49:50.

further discuss it and now is the time to move forward Lane. -- plan.

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I must respect the opinion of clinicians and commissioners. That

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is why I want to see what they say. There is, ultimately, the approval

:50:09.:50:12.

process that reconfiguration has already gone through content of

:50:13.:50:14.

independent reconfiguration panel. I should say that I spoke today to

:50:15.:50:30.

the Director of nursing at the Mid Yorkshire trust, and I was assured

:50:31.:50:40.

on some points which I felt glad to hear. I was pleased that they are

:50:41.:50:46.

cooperating with Lord Carter's review of the save staffing ratios.

:50:47.:50:55.

So we have the right staffing ratios for the acuity of patients. For

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those that have challenged staffing ratios at the moment to be able to

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look carefully at how they are rotary rate their staff across the

:51:08.:51:11.

surface but the kind of skills and international experience that Lord

:51:12.:51:14.

Carter will bring. I think that that will be very helpful. I was not made

:51:15.:51:21.

aware of the letter that, sorry, the meeting that she took. I am

:51:22.:51:27.

disappointed because she clearly had a robust discussion. I saw the

:51:28.:51:30.

contents of the letter that she sent to the secretary of state I will

:51:31.:51:39.

give way. I think in forgiving way. Given that Ernst and Young's

:51:40.:51:47.

services were a considerable cost, and that contract has now ended

:51:48.:51:51.

after about four or five years, does he agree with me that we found

:51:52.:51:54.

ourselves in that position after spending summer in the region of ?15

:51:55.:52:02.

million? I too have been frustrated by contacts. It is for her and her

:52:03.:52:11.

consultants to determine whether she feels that she gets good value for

:52:12.:52:15.

money whether her chest has got a good value for money. It is not

:52:16.:52:19.

really for me to pass comment on that.

:52:20.:52:30.

What I agree with her is that behind the statistics of poor performance

:52:31.:52:35.

that she identified, there are people who are not having the care

:52:36.:52:38.

that they require. That was picked up the by a report in the quality of

:52:39.:52:48.

care provided by the hospital. He said that we found medical care, and

:52:49.:52:55.

of love services, and community and passions either have not improved or

:52:56.:52:59.

deteriorated since our last inspection. We find areas of

:53:00.:53:04.

significant staffing shortages affected patient care, especially on

:53:05.:53:07.

the medical care words, and palliative care. He said that there

:53:08.:53:15.

was a shortage of medical staff and end-of-life services. He can to the

:53:16.:53:20.

that she did. I would say that this is where we made progress as the Mid

:53:21.:53:25.

Staffs tragedies. We are able to be open about this. There will not be a

:53:26.:53:29.

culture of denial from the site at the House about problems with the

:53:30.:53:32.

exist, included it is a problem here. Added two additional stores

:53:33.:53:43.

and her colleagues are brought to the attention of the department.

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There are clear that things that need to be done and Mid Yorkshire.

:53:48.:53:53.

What is the solution to the problems that she has identified? The first

:53:54.:53:57.

is a local one. All of these problems can only be addressed, and

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I take her point that there has to be a degree of the is possibility in

:54:01.:54:08.

the department. Fast responsibility. We cannot micromanage every

:54:09.:54:13.

hospital. It is for the local team to make sure that they are

:54:14.:54:17.

universalizing the past. They're making sure that they are

:54:18.:54:21.

implementing the kinds of changes in their trust would have made such a

:54:22.:54:26.

success of hospitals not very far from her own. If they are able to do

:54:27.:54:31.

that, they will already be able to bring considerable improvements to

:54:32.:54:34.

the quality of care that they can provide. There are additional things

:54:35.:54:39.

that I can do as a minister to give them the tools to be able to do the

:54:40.:54:44.

job. As well as other hospitals across the country. One of them is

:54:45.:54:48.

to make sure that they can roster their staff property, trash

:54:49.:54:51.

properly. -- properly. That will give

:54:52.:55:08.

hospitals cutting edge support in being able to roster their staff

:55:09.:55:12.

according to the acuity of their patients. To ensure maximum safety

:55:13.:55:16.

and efficiency in learning from best practice. The global. I will give

:55:17.:55:26.

way. I think in forgiving way once more. I think my honourable friend

:55:27.:55:34.

have shared similar concerns. We have regular monthly meetings and

:55:35.:55:39.

were only made aware. We now have the new interim chief executive. I

:55:40.:55:45.

think we would appreciate some support from the Department of

:55:46.:55:51.

Health team about ensuring that that communication channel between us as

:55:52.:55:57.

elective members are as effective as possible. I shall impress that on

:55:58.:56:01.

NHS improvement will be taking over the functions of the authority very

:56:02.:56:07.

shortly in the next few days. I expect that they will have a BD or I

:56:08.:56:13.

on the quality of management than there has been so far under the

:56:14.:56:18.

watchful guidance of the chief executive who ran one of the best

:56:19.:56:21.

hospitals not just in England, but in the world. He is running the NHS

:56:22.:56:32.

improvement. I will tell him the discussion that we have had later

:56:33.:56:36.

this week and I will make sure that he provides honourable members of

:56:37.:56:41.

the kinds of resources that they are asking is that they can ensure that

:56:42.:56:45.

their local leadership is doing the right thing. I want to act on the

:56:46.:56:50.

wider issue about staffing, and the fact is that the new members and the

:56:51.:56:58.

service can only be addressed by significant changes in commissioning

:56:59.:57:04.

levels five to 20 years ago. These services has failed. It is one of

:57:05.:57:13.

the more extraordinary functions that I possess to be able to have to

:57:14.:57:18.

sign off every year the commissioning of staff that are

:57:19.:57:25.

required in 20 to 30 years' time. Nobody can behave like Nostradamus

:57:26.:57:32.

and expects to know what is going to be required by the service and that

:57:33.:57:35.

period of time. That is why we have come to the conclusion that we need

:57:36.:57:41.

to increase the number of places commissioned. Within the current

:57:42.:57:44.

spending envelope, it is not going to be possible to do the numbers

:57:45.:57:48.

that we wish to see, and I think that governments on both sides will

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help find that possible. In conclusion, we came to releasing

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those places by transferring those graduates to a loan system. It will

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allow us to add 10,000 additional places with penile and the end of

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this Parliament. That is 10,000 places that we then... Parts of the

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country have suffered for decades. One final issue that I would like to

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bring to the attention is in bringing up a new role supported by

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the role of the College of nursing, and to some degree by Eunice, we're

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going to have a ladder of opportunity to health care systems

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to move through an apprenticeship level. At the moment, that is a

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course that they cannot take. It is not open to them. In other parts of

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Yorkshire, they have no problem at all in hiring health care

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assistance. They find it difficult to hire registered nurses. I have

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proposed a mechanism for giving health care system is the

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opportunity to progress themselves that they have missed out on because

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they did not have the access to decent formal education. We are now

:59:22.:59:33.

giving them an apprenticeship route. The wider group of people and the

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NHS.

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