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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage from the

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house. David Cameron will face Jeremy Corbyn for Prime Minister's

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Questions. The main chamber will see the Labour Party raised two issues

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for debate. The first would tax avoidance and evasion, calling on

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the Government to order an immediate public enquiry into the revelations

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of the ban papers. The second focuses on the schools' White Paper,

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looking at giving all schools in England and Academy status to move

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them from authority control. Join me for a round-up at 11pm tonight.

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First, questions to the new Secretary of State for Wells. The

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first comes from Julian Sturdy and it's about rebalancing the economy

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in Wales. Order, order. Questions for the

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Secretary of State for Wales. As the economy Britain begins to grow, we

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see Wales regenerating a city deal for God of capital region and we are

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looking to follow suit with a deal for Swansea in the west. I have

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opened the door to growth in north Wales. Maybe the first to welcome

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the Secretary of State Andy a new minister to their new roles. With

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the announcement of the north Wales growth deal in the budget, what

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plans are therefore this deal to be genuinely cross-border in nature and

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plug into northern powerhouse which has the potential to deliver huge

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benefits right across the north, not only for the distinct regions like

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north Wales, also own county of Yorkshire? -- God's own county. We

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are seeking to grow the economy right across UK, not just in Wales.

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We are looking to move this to the saloon, Western and eastern parts of

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the country. I was talking to local authority leaders and business

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goods, they were all keen to support of Wales growth deal and we want to

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ensure that north Wales plugged into northern powerhouse. Given the

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importance of north Wales, will be Secretary of State press very clear

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links to Manchester Airport and HS2 benefits? As an MP, will I be able

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to build on them? The honourable member makes an important point and

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you'll be aware of the cross-border task force that is set up. This is

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making a bid to CP6 to see if they can establish links between the

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rails and the roads were not well. We also want to make sure everyone

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has the right representation in the negotiations. Thank you. May I

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welcome my honourable friend disposition. I'm very thankful for

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his agreement on the growth deal, but I hobby recognises the

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disassociation with the west England. Does he agree that, in

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order to maximise the benefit, there has to be a degree of political

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devolution, or at least an element of it, to Wells? -- Wells? It is

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essential that we get devilish and to north Wales. It was interesting,

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at that meeting in north Wales, the north-west part of Wales, the border

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and the English side of the boundary all wanted this growth deal to work

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on a cross-border basis and I am determined to by the interest of

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that region. One of the most effective ways to rebalance the

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economy is to empower the Welsh Government with the necessary job

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creation, which is why I move to help increase growth for Wells. In

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order for this work, it has to be celebrated within the right

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framework. -- facilitated. What is the preferred reduction method for

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Wells? -- Wales? Welcome any draft bill that we want to bring forward,

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in terms of pride and tax varying powers, especially income tax, we

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want to see this making a load tax economy. There are mechanisms that

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need to be introduced in order to protect the Welsh interest in this.

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I have met with the Chief Secretary this week and we have spoken about

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early proposals, and they would have early discussions next week about

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this. Does this for the most exciting prospect and what steps are

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you taking to encourage them? He will be aware that the budget

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focused on the city deal for Cardiff, and that is the largest

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city deal across the whole of the United Kingdom, ?1.2 billion

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covering ten authority areas. We are ambitious and we would likely growth

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deal to keep increasing. We have to remember that this is in addition to

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the Barnett agreement. Is the growth dependent on growth in the Republic

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of Ireland and England as well? Can I well along with the secretary, a

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ploy to ensure that we get more details about this so-called growth

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partnership because we are the partners for north Wales. I am

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grateful to the honourable member for his kind without support. Yes,

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we are determined to work... The purpose of the growth deal is a

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bottom-up approach. They have met with local authority businesses from

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north Wales and we are determined to pursue that further. In relation to

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Northern Ireland and the links with Republic of Ireland, I'm not quite

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sure I can make the growth deal stretch that far, although I would

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be interested in trying to get across the English border. This

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Government's commitments is a major boost to the economy and the people

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of South Wales. It makes a great difference that commuters and small

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business owners in the strategy to rebalance the economy. May I say I

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also welcome him to his base, it seems that not long ago we were

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competing for the then safe Labour seat. Would my honourable friend

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agree with me that the reduction in the tolls would also have a great

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benefit from the Welsh tourism sector? Would you also now agree

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that it is now time for the Welsh Government to pull its finger out

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and develop the investments for the' four corridor. I'm grateful for the

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kind words. May I say, there are no infrastructure projects more

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important to the wealth economy than the upgrade to the' four corridor.

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An audible friend, Lord H, was very committed to this, only to have it

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cancelled on them by the party opposite when they were in

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Government. -- Hague. Commuters have called for it, visitors have called

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for it and the Chancellor made money specifically available for this

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project almost three years ago. We just wish the Welsh Government would

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get on with it. The Welsh Affairs Committee found that the operational

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and maintenance cost of the bridge represented one quarter of the tool,

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yet the Government has reduced the tool to half. Therefore, they are

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making a 100% margin. When will they reduce the cost of the maintenance

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cost in to give every chance for South Wales and the Welsh economy to

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perform as well as anywhere else, rather than have a stranglehold on

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it? I would hope the honourable member, and although the directors,

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would welcome the harvesting unequal fees. We saw no action when the

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opposite party was in power, but we have gone further than this. A small

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group vehicle will move from a current rate of ?13 20 two less than

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?4 when the tolls are halved. We also taking away the second class

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told. The announcement of the cutting tolls is a hugely welcome

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one from this conservative comment but, would you also agree with me

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that in the longer term, the revenue generated from the tolls should not

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exceed the cost of maintenance of the two bridges? Can I pay tribute

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to my honourable friend for his diligent, persistent campaign on

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this issue? I know he was the light my honourable friend was able to

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respond to his cold and, many other calls on the side. There will be a

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debt remaining on the tolls, even when they come back into public

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ownership by 2018. That debt needs to be serviced, as well as

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innovations aren't free flow traffic that we want to introduce as well.

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Can I start by congratulating the Secretary of State and the Minister

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on their recent appointments? We, on this site, look for two working

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constructively with them, particularly on new Wales Bill,

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whenever that may appear. The Chancellor did make much of the

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tolls on the Severn Crossing and halving the fees. This is not as

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severe as we think it is. This discount includes a 20% VAT, which

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disappears anyway when the bridge reverts to public ownership. Instead

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of leaving businesses still paying thousands of pounds per year, why

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would they Government do the right thing and scrap the tolls

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altogether? This is a very different call, a very convenient, I would say

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as well before an election from the party opposite. They have long

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called for the devolution of the tolls and we will feel full that the

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tolls, as soon as they are devolved, if that was agreed, they would get

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to a position that they would be used as a cash cow in order to

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support the Welsh Government. The marketing in Wales has never been

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stronger but there is a to celebrate, however unemployment has

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fallen and the number of people working in Wales as it an all-time

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high... May I welcome the Minister to his position and while he is

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quite focused on the issues of steel and Port Talbot, I wonder what you

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would think of the decision of Aston Martin to make your new DBX car in

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the UK. It is an investment. It is an investment which will create 750

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highly skilled jobs in Wales and the West Midlands. I'm very grateful to

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the Prime Minister and Michael Fallon for the work they have put

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into achieving that success. What some name was mentioned, it

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does not mean anything and the chamber. Sense 2012 jobs growth and

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Wales has helped 15,000 people into meaningful employment. Devon youth

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unemployment and Wales is falling faster than in the UK as a whole is

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the right honourable gentleman agree the UK Government can learn from

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Wales? These figures have highlighted some 80% of that

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spending has been inefficient, however it is important to point out

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that job creation success requires cooperation between the two

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Government, exactly what we saw with Aston Martin. My honourable friend

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102 dozen is a major employer. Will he take this opportunity to pay

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tribute to Andrew RT Davies, the Welsh Conservative leader, and

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Anthony pickles for coming up with the idea of bringing the Prince of

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Wales' regalia to wheels and particularly to praise the Prince of

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Wales for following up that idea. What discussion is he having with

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the Welsh Government to promote this? I will join with my honourable

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friend and paying tribute to the leader of the most conservatives. It

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is important to highlight the importance of tourism to the Bush

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economy and bringing radially back to Wales would be the right thing to

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do and I'm sure my constituents would be delighted to host it.

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Does the Minister thank his colleagues plan to sack hundreds of

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civil servants and Cardiff and will that help or hinder employment

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trends and Wales? I think the honourable lady should be aware it

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would be inappropriate for me to comment on leaked reports. We should

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be aware that it does not matter where in Wales Kulik, what we're

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seeing is employment growth, but it is not my position to comment on the

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reports. I welcome my honourable friend to his position. Does he

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agree with me that the reductions in the budget of business taxes and the

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ability of people to keep more of their own earnings create an

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environment in which the private sector can invest and employment

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opportunities can come to Wales in the same way as the rest of the

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country? I agree entirely. The tax cuts which have been brought in by

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this Government are welcomed and of particular importance in the Budget

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was the issue of small business rates and I would call on the Welsh

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Government to follow the UK Government in ensuring Welsh

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businesses have the same benefits from business rates as those in

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England. 30% of working age of disabled people are in jobs and

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Wales compared with 46% in the UK as a whole. Why? The honourable lady

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asks a very important question and there is more work to be done. There

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is a need to work together on this issue. However I would highlight

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there are more and more people with disabilities and work. Over 300,000

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more in the past 24 months. We must make sure the successes across the

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country are replicated in Wales. Question number four, Mr Speaker.

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This fuel industry is dealing with unparalleled global conditions and

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the UK is concerned with the impact that is happening in South Wales.

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While we cannot change the status of the global steel market our

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objective is to overcome the challenges and achieve a sustainable

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future for the steel industry in Wales and across the UK.

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I thank the Minister for that answer but would he agree that in order to

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secure the future of not only the Port Talbot site but Tata at sites

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across the UK no option should be pulled out? Can I pay tribute to my

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honourable friend, the member for Corbett, and how he has represented

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his constituents and those who depend on steel-making in that area.

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He recognises the way in which the plants are linked and I know he has

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been working closely with the Business Secretary and myself to

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secure the future. I can reassure my honourable friend no Stone will be

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left unsound to secure a long-term future for the Corby plant as well

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as those across the UK. I welcome the secretary of state to his new

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position and I assure you that in my questions I will endeavour to give

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them ample opportunity to explain themselves. So why didn't the

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secretary of state travel to Mumbai for the Tata board meeting on March

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the 29th? The Government has been in close dialogue with part Tata Steel

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what many months. My right honourable friend the Business

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Secretary was a Tata the month before the mum by meeting and

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engaged with directors at start-up before that. -- Mumbai. And we

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managed to avert the immediate closure and proposed a sealed. I

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will get them another go, shall I? That he failed to attend because a

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more senior Cabinet colleagues told him not to? That he decided not to

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go off off its own back? What was it as was said to be Welsh Affairs

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Committee yesterday, he would not have gone to Australia at the known

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they were going to close the Corby works? Was it his pecking order,

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insolence or plain ignorance? Mr Speaker I am disappointed by the

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approach the honourable member is taking. Surely what the steelworkers

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want to see if the Government and opposition working together, unions

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and the company working together, to secure the long-term future. The

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Government has been in long-term dialogue and that is demonstrated in

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the sales process we're not going through rather than the risk of

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immediate closure we were facing. What my honourable friend get me a

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assurance that he, together with the Wales office, will work with all

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relevant departments to ensure the long-term future of Port Talbot and

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in particular those in my constituency? I would also like to

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pay tribute to my honourable friend, a member and dour. I know he met the

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Business Secretary last week and I have had several conversations with

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him and an ongoing basis in support of his constituents. This

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demonstrates the regional impact this plant hard and the Government

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is determined to do everything possible to secure a long-term

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viable future for the plant. Add the secretary of state knows at

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cyclo-cross Wales Tata steel workers produce a range of specialist

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products. What assurances has he obtained from Tata steel they will

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not siphon of production of the most profitable lines to the plant

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abroad. What guarantees had to receive that the intellectual

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property will remain with the Welsh operations in order to attract a

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suitable buyer and safeguard many Welsh jobs? The honourable lady rate

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is a very important job in relation to the sale of the UK operations

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which demonstrates the positive engagement between the UK Government

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and Tata Steel which resulted in the decision to sell off of the

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operations rather than simply dispose of what some might see as

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the more profitable assets. Number five, Mr Speaker.

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We have all been an intensive, extensive discussions with Tata pop

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months and it is due to this Government intervention that Tata

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have agreed to ease sale process rather than immediate closure of its

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Welch operations. I spoke to the honourable member report he went to

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the Tata meeting and mum by and I have kept in regular contact to

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update them. -- in Mumbai. These are very important matters affecting the

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livelihoods of tens of thousands of people. Let's have some respect for

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that fact what ministers wittering away in the background. There are

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important matters are being discussed. Mr Stephen cannot. The

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secretary of state will know it is critical we now retain the order

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book and customer base for the Welsh steel industry. A short answer to a

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short question. Could the secretary of state and from what conversations

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he had been having with customers such as Honda, Nissan, Jaguar Land

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Rover to secure the integrity of the customer base? Yes or no. Can I say

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that my father was a welder at the Port Talbot plant for more than 30

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years before he was made redundant several years ago. I am from that

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community, I understand how important the steel as to the income

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of that area. My family have been through the good things and the

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difficult times. The Government is in regular engagement with many of

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the companies that work with Tata, both those who supply them and

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customers. We are determined to do everything to support them. The

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secretary of state for business said we should work across party on this.

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The secretary of state for Wales has also said that. I understand he is

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to visit on Monday, when was he in sending to tell me? I hope the

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honourable member would be grateful or approving of a visit from a UK

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Government minister. I have been responding to calls from local

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workers. I was in Wrexham on the day the news broke about Shotton and

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spoke to business leaders about the impact. I said to the community that

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as soon as more information is available I will return and that is

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why I am returning to Shotton next Monday. Question number six, Mr

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Speaker. The EU makes a massive contribution to the Belgian economy.

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It is not largest trading partner, supports thousands of jobs. -- Welsh

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economy. The benefits are far too great a risk leaving. He is

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absolutely right. The Welsh economy depends on EU funding to a large

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extent. Does the Minister agree with the remaining in the EU is vital to

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employment and training opportunities and Wales and the UK.

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I would fully endorse the comments. EU funding has been significant in

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reskilling the Welsh workforce and the support given to higher

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education institutions is phenomenal. Small family farms and

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the backbone of the West Wales rural economy. Incomes have declined over

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the past two years by ?5,000. Does the Minister issue the concerns of

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many organisations that the last thing we must countenance as

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withdrawal from the EU? I would entirely endorse the comments of the

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honourable gentleman. Both the farming unions in Wales are strongly

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in favour of others remaining in a reformed EU and the extent of Welsh

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agriculture products exported to the EU, 90%, is exported and we should

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not risk that. On the spot the Minister is right. -- on this point.

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The best position for Wales is to stay within the EU. But can he tell

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us, at the time when Sir Terry Matthews and others support our

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membership, can you tell us why Andrew RT Davies, the person the

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party opposite want to be First Minister of Wales, once Wales out of

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the EU? It is a disgrace, isn't that? The honourable lady is right

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to highlight the support of these groups but I would make this point.

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The Conservative Party is the Democratic party who believes

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passionately people can make a decision about this issue are the

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people of this country. We have offered them in referendum and it

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will make a decision in ten weeks' time. We believe any disabled person

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who wants to what should be able to. There will be a real terms spending

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increase in supporting disabled people into what which will ensure a

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valuable talent and skill will be further recognised within the Welsh

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workforce. We are discussing the situation of disabled people in

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Wales. Disability rights, organisations, the equality and

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human rights commission and many others have decried the lack of

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evidence in support of the Government cuts of ?1500 a year for

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disabled people who have been found not fit for work. How many employers

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in Wales has the Government signed up as active disability, but then

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employers to those disabled people who are fit for work? It is

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important to point that first of all, getting as supporting disabled

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people into what is imported and we have a track record of success. In

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the past 12 months we have seen 150,000 disabled people enter the

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workplace. I am proud of Swansea, for example, is the first disabled

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friendly city in the UK supporting disabled people into employment. I

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will write to the honourable lady with the specific figures that you

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request. One the minister concede that with over one third of what

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capability assessment appeal being successful Government policy is

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damaging the lives of a great many disabled people and financially

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starving them of money that they need to live a reasonable quality of

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life? It is very important to point out again that when is the what

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capability assessment should be refined and are being refined, it is

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crucial to buy that we believe strongly people who are disabled

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have a contribution to make if they want to and are able to work. Our

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policy is to help people into employment where that is possible

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and the figures show our policy is successful is. Meow welcome the to

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this. This... SCO where the policy of the Conservative Government to

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implement personal independence payment is living too many people

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are being prevented from working because they are having mortar

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ability cars taken away from them which prevent them being able to

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travel to work? Will he speak to the person next to him and try and talk

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sense into him? I find the comments to be slightly disappointing. When

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you look at all the changes in the employment situation in his

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constituency deeply should be welcoming the work of this

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Government on welfare reform. These changes are contributing to

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behavioural change, leading to more people supporting their own families

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and contributing to the economy. When you look at the figures for the

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Wrexham economy, he should be welcoming the changes, not

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condemning them. Questions to the Prime Minister.

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Warning this morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and in

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addition to my duties in this House, I shall have further such meetings

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later today. Last week I visited a manufacturing company, which

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supplied the Tower of London poppies. Would my right honourable

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friend agree with me that supporting small businesses and personal web of

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further increasing personal income tax allowance

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