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Order, order. The chairman of ways and means to move the motion for an

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unopposed return in his name. LAUGHTER

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Questions to the Secretary of State for Wales, Mr Neil Carmichael. Thank

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you, Mr Speaker. May I say it is a pleasure that the increased interest

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this house has in Welsh versions. This garment is investing a record

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amount in Welsh where -- railways. The new railway will significantly

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enhance the travel experience of passengers in Wales and the

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south-west. Does the Minister agree with me that the investment so far

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national transport infrastructure national transport infrastructure

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and it must be continued but does he always agree -- also agree that you

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need to have stations of the right places so that more and more

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passengers can get access? I agree with my honourable friend who is

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well-known for his campaigning efforts on behalf of rail commuters.

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The investment that this government is making in the railway

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infrastructure is at rebels -- record levels. We are seeing great

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investment in signalling in North Wales, and that new capacity will be

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good for the economy of South Wales in the south-west. The Minister will

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know there is no economic connectivity between South Wales and

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the south-west than between South Wales and North Wales, so will he

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give an undertaking to speed up the electrification of the railways, in

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particular at a time where we see Brexit leading to a lot of

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uncertainty about inward investment in Wales. The honourable member

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makes an important point about interconnectivity. I don't think it

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is a case of either or, I think it is very important to have greater

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interconnections between North and South Wales but we also need to

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recognise that South Wales needs to be linked with the London area and

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the south-west and when you do have the same in North Wales. In terms of

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speeding up I don't think I'd will take any lessons from the party

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opposite who failed to invest a single penny during a 13 year

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period. In stark contrast to the last government what this government

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is doing to the great Western line is remarkable, the electrification

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and the new trains. But will the Minister will meet with me to

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discuss direct trains from Cardiff Central station to London to build

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on that capacity and that investment? My honourable friend is

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a great champion for railway connections between South Wales and

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London and it would be a pleasure to meet with him to discuss further

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developments in a Welsh context. I fully agree that the modernisation

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of the South Wales railway line will have a great effect, not least for

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example the new link into Heathrow Airport. Improving Cardiff Central

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station is a vital part of this. Can he update the house on the

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discussion is the government has had recently with Cardiff Council and

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others about modernising and upgrading Cardiff Central? I can

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confirm my right honourable friend has met with council leaders in

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Cardiff in relation to the developer of Cardiff Central station. The

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government has already invested in enhanced capacity in terms of

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platforms. That process needs to continue. We recognise the

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importance of Cardiff Central station to the economy, not just to

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the capital city of Wales but the wider economic area and talks are

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ongoing. Plans for future South Wales rail links were heavily

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dependent on EU cash so will the Minister asked the Treasury to

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support mail -- rail links like the Metro for the future? The South

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Wales metro links will be important for the right Honourable member's

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consistently -- constituency. But it is a ?1.2 billion investment of

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which less than 8% was earmarked marked a BET you funding. This

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government has committed ?4.5 million for that investment.

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With permission, Mr Speaker, I will answer questions to and for

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together. The British people have voted to leave the European Union,

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and my right honourable friend the Prime Minister has been clear that

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there will must be respected and delivered. We are now preparing for

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a negotiated exit from the European Union, which will involve close

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engagement with all of the devolved administrations to ensure that the

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interest of the parts of the United Kingdom are protected and advanced.

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Structural funding for Wales is guaranteed until 2020, given the

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substantially budgetary gains that will be made after withdrawal from

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the EU, can my right honourable friend make every effort to ensure

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that the current level of funding will continue until at least that

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date? Mr Speaker the government has a strong record in guaranteeing

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funds for Wales. Most notably, the Barnett formula which was ignored

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for 13 years by the party opposite. It demonstrates we work hard in

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demonstrating areas that need and deserve support. Has the Minister

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had talks with major employers in Wales such as Ford, Everest, to find

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out what the investment intentions are following the vote to leave the

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EU? The honourable lady raises an important question and within a week

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of the Brexit referendum I met a number of business leaders in

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Cardiff, and last week I met a number of business leaders in North

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Wales, and I was struck by the pragmatism and the approach, the

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positivity they were showing. One of the most positive quotes was that

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entrepreneurs thrive on change. They recognise we are not turning our

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backs on Europe that we are opening up new markets across the globe.

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Does he agree that every single government minister who has spoken

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on this issue has expressed their desire to ensure that spending

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remains at exactly the same levels in Wales as it always has done,

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doesn't this show the commitment this government has to the people of

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Wales? My honourable friend makes an important point and allows me to

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underline once again the positive financial commitments this

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government has made to Wales. In addition to the 115% funding for the

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Barnett formula we have introduced, there is an basement in

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electrification, and a city deal on top of a range of other projects, UK

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taxpayer money during invested in Wales on top of the Barnett

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consequential 's. Given that Wales will no longer receive funding

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through the European INAUDIBLE

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What consideration is he giving to developing a clearly needs -based

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formula for allocating funding to Wales. There were many campaigns for

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a Barnett for, but it was only this government that deliver that. With

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relation to European funds, we have not yet concluded a negotiating

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position. I would add that simply releasing what are currently EU

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funds with one source that is another with Westminster Mrs the

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point. Those errors that receive most EU fans were the areas sadly

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that voted to leave the EU. We need to look at models of European aid in

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a different way. The debates on our future in the European Union was

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very badly informed. Will the Secretary of State convene an

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independent enquiry to identify and quantify and publish the losses and

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indeed any benefits to Wales from leaving the European Union, and the

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steps that he can take within his powers to safeguard our national

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interest? A European Union unit is being set up in Whitehall that will

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consider all the implications for my right honourable friend, the next

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pie Minister, in order to form judgments and direct government

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policy. But I think we need to recognise that if any country can

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make a success of leaving the European Union, it is the United

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Kingdom, with its proud history of the global trading nation. I did ask

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about his department. Anyway, I am concerned about the loss of

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convergence funding of research monies to universities and lost

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opportunities to young people to live and work and study abroad. But

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also, being Welsh, and European, I fear the closing of our horizons

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towards a parochial little Britain. What more can he do to ensure the

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future of our Welsh cultural London bypass to the rest of our continent?

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Mr Speaker, I am disappointed with the question that the honourable

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member has raised, because he will understand that I have got a close

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working relationship with the Welsh government, with the First Minister

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in particular. What is in Wales's interest is in the United Kingdom's,

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and I intend to do all possible to maintain that positive relationship

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as we negotiate to leave the European Union. The Secretary of

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State's answers have been predictably vacuous and ambiguous.

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Can I give him a chance to boost his promotion hopes today by giving a

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straight answer, and flout all Parliamentary traditions? Brexit is

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perilous to Wales, especially to the steel industry. There will be an

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immediate loss of 600 million, and there might be further losses later.

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The simple question is, and a one word answer will do, well he

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guarantee that Wales will not lose any of the funding it has under

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Brexit? I can guarantee that Wales will get

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its fair share. And the Barnett formula and all of those issues that

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I have highlighted. This party can give certainty of leadership with

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strong visionary negotiating stance as we approach the referendum, as we

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approach the departure from the European Union. It is quite obvious

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that we cannot get that certainty of leadership from that party opposite.

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Number three, Mr Speaker. This government is taking unprecedented

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steps to ensure great and fat disparity across the UK and the UK

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Government cities and local growth agenda is revolutionising the way we

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achieve this. Region city deal, alongside an ongoing discussion in

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Swansea, is a clear commitment to rebalance the economy in Wales.

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That's my honourable friend agree with me that in my area of North

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Wells, good transport links are vital to balance the economy? What

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plans does he have two address this? Last Thursday I was at a summit in

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North Wales where we discussed the proposal for improving rail links

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and road links in North Wales as part of a great deal. -- growth

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deal. Central to rebalancing the Welsh economy, the Metro project and

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the city region. Given that in the referendum campaign, 13 government

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ministers signed a letter to guarantee continuation of EU

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funding, will the Minister in sure that none of those projects lose out

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as a result of after leaving the EU? I think he is asking me to make a

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guaranteed in ratio to a future government which will be established

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by the new Prime Minister from this afternoon onwards. The city deal was

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an initiative which had cooperation between the Westminster and Welsh

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government, it showed what can be done when governments work together

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and the investment that is proposed into the South Wales metro was

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something was not delivered over the previous government over 13 years

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where they could have made difference. Given the opportunities

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of the North Wales great deal for my constituency and north-east Wales,

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what steps as the minister taken to follow the lead of the Treasury to

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ensure that women business leaders are fully engaged in the North Wales

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great deal? Meetings that we are having in North Wales have been with

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council leaders, further education leaders, leaders of Welsh

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businesses, and I am glad to say those leaders represent male and

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female people. We have an approach in North Wales which is inclusive

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and supportive by all stakeholders, people River potential of North

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Wales joining in the northern powerhouse for the benefit of all

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residents. Central to all balancing is exports, Wales has a significant

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trade surplus as opposed to the English portion which does not. What

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assessment has he made with the number of countries across the world

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that Wales could export to, and does he not realise that tariff free

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access to the single market is vital to the Welsh economy... We have got

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his drift. I agree with him that access to the market is very

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important to the Welsh economy but he should also recognise that Welsh

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export growth has been faster to those countries outside the EU. What

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we need for a balanced approach to the Welsh economy is to ensure we

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have access the market around the world so that Welsh businesses can

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carry on with the success they have had recently. Number five, Mr

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Speaker. As the secretary of state, I'm determined to maintain the

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economic success that we have seen in recent times and that we manage

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our transition to the new arrangement in a calm and measured

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way. As we negotiate our way out of the European Union, a whole range of

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decisions will have to be made in due course. The A456 Road heads

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through my constituency and it has had a very bad safety record. Order,

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I think the people of Merthyr Tydfil will at least want to hear the

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honourable gentleman. Thank you, Mr Speaker. A456 run through my

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constituency and has historically had a bad safety record. With EU

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funds, this road has been turned into a dual carriageway but some

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phases of this work are yet to start. Will the Secretary of State

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providing assurance that he will do all he can and work with the bulk to

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provide support and ensure this government and many like it will not

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be jeopardised by Brexit? He raises an important point, and I would

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underline that we remain full, active members of the EU, with all

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of the benefits and obligations that brings for at least two years. The

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project highlighted is one of the more successful projects of European

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aided funded programmes. But not all of those projects were as

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successful. Some of the strategies were questionable and some of the

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outcomes were Willie, we need to reassess how we support regional

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aided programmes. Can of the Shadow Secretary of State good absolute

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commitment that no regenerations will be loose out as a result of the

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disastrous Brexit result? I can guarantee for the next two years at

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least that no European supported project will lose out. Of course we

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have not yet concluded our negotiating position. And simply

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replacing one source of funding with another misses the point. The EU

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referendum sent out a clear message from those communities that are

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purported to benefit the most from European aid, and they simply did

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not want was being offered to them. Number six, Mr Speaker. They have a

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significant potential at donating to the energy mix. We have commissioned

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independent report on tidal lagoons and I look forward to reading it in

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the autumn. The Bristol Channel is the highest second highest ride --

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the second highest rise and fall inside in the world and we need to

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harness that power, it will create powerful hundreds of years. He is

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absolutely right, the potential does exist, that is why we have

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commissioned an independent report which will report in the autumn. He

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needs to look carefully at the cost and benefits of a potential tidal

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lagoon. We are supportive of the content but we have to make sure

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that element with the cost to the UK taxpayer. The Minister will note

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many renewal Project... CHEERING

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Mr Speaker, I did not know I was a popular. -- I was that popular. As

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you will know, many renewable energy projects will depend on EU funding.

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Can he give a cast iron guarantee that the UK Cabinet will meet that

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funding if it is lost through our exit from the European Union? I can

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assure the honourable member that he is not. The tidal lagoon issue is

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being considered in its complexity. We are looking at all the issues. I

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am not aware of any EU funding which was committed to the tidal lagoon

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and therefore I can offer no guarantees. The Henry review team

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has met representatives of business and civic society right across

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Wales. The tidal lagoon infrastructure project will be a

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massive economic opportunity for Wales and especially my constituency

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of Swansea East. Can the Minister assure this house that he will be

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emphasising to the Henry review how much support there is, how much

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enthusiast and how important this vital scheme is to be done as a

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matter of urgency? Can I welcome the honourable lady to her place on the

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front bench. Also fully accept the comments made in terms of the

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support by the concept in the Swansea area, and I can also confirm

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that my right honourable friend has already met with Charles Henry in

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order to discuss the project. It is not my position to prejudge an

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independent report. I can assure the honourable lady that the support is

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known to Charles Henry. Question, number seven. The voice of

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Montgomeryshire must be heard at! With permission, Mr Zika...

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Charing with permission, Mr Speaker, I will

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answer question 11 and seven together.

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The farming sector is the economic backbone of the Welsh rural economy.

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The total income is estimated at 125 million. More importantly is the

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contribution... CHEERING that it makes to our rural

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communities. It is crucially important and

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discovered will continue to support it. Does the Minister share my

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concerns, Mr Speaker, the Welsh farming unions, about the

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administration of the single farm payment scheme in Wales,

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particularly in relation to cross-border issues? And will he

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agreed to meet the farming unions at the Royal Welsh show next week to

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discuss this very serious issue? I agree completely, with my honourable

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friend, any delays in payments to the farming community is

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problematic. It is an issue which is devolved to the Welsh garment, an

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issue which I have already discussed this farming unions. My right

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honourable friend the Secretary of State will be at the Royal Welsh

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next week subject to the discussions with the next Prime Minister, and

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meetings had been arranged at this event which is the premier farming

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event in the UK. Welsh and British farmers are response Paul for

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producing some of the finest food in the world. Now that we are to leave

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the EU, what effort is my honourable friend making to make sure that

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department ensures all of the UK's home-grown produce is promoted to

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international markets? She is absolutely right in saying the

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quality of food produced in Wales is second to none. We have produced the

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best lamb in the world, and the contribution to such produce to the

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economy is vital. We have met with leaders including food producers to

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give them confidence that they can still access international markets

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following the EU referendum results. The Royal Welsh show next week will

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show the very best of Welsh agriculture. When the Secretary of

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State goes there, he will have the same question that I have received

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in the last few weeks since 23rd June, what guarantees are there that

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the support for the family farm at its present level will remain in the

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future to sustain the essential rural economy in Wales?

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CHEERING I thank my honourable friend for the

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question, it he is a champion of the rural sector. I can assure him that

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we have already had meetings with the farming unions, we can certainly

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offer the guarantee that the current funding arrangements will be in

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place until 2018. The ongoing support for Welsh farming will be

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subject to agreement between this government, the way in which we exit

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the EU and the decisions taken by the future Prime Minister. Given

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that the common agricultural policy end world element programme

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contribute hundreds of millions of pounds to the Welsh rural economy,

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what UK exits scenario could possibly benefit Wales? I argued for

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Wales and the UK to stay within the EU but the reality is Wales voted to

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leave. It is crucial that we support the industries that are dependent on

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exporting to the European Union. We do have a quality product offered by

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the Welsh agriculture, we need to talk that up. I give assurances to

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the farming unions at the current funding situation is in place two

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years. Does the Minister agree with me that leaving the European Union

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offers a golden opportunity to assess the level of subsidy paid to

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farming in Wales to see whether that money can be more effectively and

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efficiently spent in other areas? Well, I would say that there is a

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need to look at the way in which government spends money. If there is

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going to be a funding mechanism in the future for Welsh agriculture, it

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must be looked at in the totality of government spending. It is important

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to state that over 60,000 jobs in Wales are dependent on the

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agriculture sector and it would be short-sighted in the extreme to turn

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its back on a sector which put Wales on international map.

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I know the whole house will join me in congratulating Andy Murray,

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Heather Watson, on their stunning success

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