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Hello and welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage of the

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House of Commons. Today is the start of two days of debate on the general

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principles of the Government's Bill to give the Prime Minister the power

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to enact Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty and start the process for

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leaving the European Union. The debate will begin at around 12.

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40 and continue until Midnight before resuming tomorrow.

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MPs will vote tomorrow evening at around 7 o'clock.

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Ministers want to get the Bill passed in both Houses of Parliament

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in time to trigger the process by the 31th March.

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Join me for a round-up of the day in both Houses of Parliament at 11

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tonight. First, questions to the Secretary of State for Business,

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energy and industrial strategy, Greg Clark, and his ministerial team.

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THE SPEAKER: Order, order. Her Majesty has signified her Royal

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assent to the following Acts, policing and crime Act 2017, Wales

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Act 2017. Order, questions to the Secretary of State for Business,

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energy and industrial strategy. Lilian Greenwood.

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Number one, Mr Speaker. Thank you very much indeed, Mr

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Speaker. The first section of our green paper

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industrial strategy sets out our ambition to make Britain the best

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nation in the world for scientists, innovators and technical inventors.

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In support of this, we have announced an increase of ?4.7

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billion in public research and development funds, the biggest

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increase in support of science for 40 years. In evidence to the

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Education Select Committee last week, Professor Arthur, President of

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University College London spoke not only of the huge sums of money

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flowing into research in the UK through Europe, a rise in 2020 and

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the European Council, but also for a system that replaces the mobility of

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the people, the networking and working across multiple boundaries.

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Does he recognise if the Euro-sceptics in his party prevail

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and we have a hard Brexit, even spending 3% of GDP on funding won't

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be enough for scientific research and what is he doing to stand up for

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the needs of this sector? What I would say to the honourable lady and

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she has two very eminent universities in her constituency,

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they are going from strength-to-strength. But she will

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know, and I agree with her, that having the best researchers from

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across the world coming to our universities, is very important, and

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it was one of the points that the Prime Minister made in her speech at

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Lancaster House. That is a priority for our negotiations.

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Of course part of that science funding includes the funding of the

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satellite sector which is an important industrial base for the

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United Kingdom and the Government's set its own target within the next

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two decades to increase it by a further 10% of global share. What

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more money could be put into the satellite sector from the industrial

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strategy challenge fund? My right honourable friend raises an

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important point. We say in the strategy that we should build on our

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strengths and the satellite sector is a shining British strength. We

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have huge numbers of jobs being created in that sector. It's

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specified throughout the industrial strategy as an area in which we want

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the industry to work together to ensure we are particularly training

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the technicians and engineers in that sector in the future.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. The industrial strategy quite rightly

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points out to the crucial significance and investment in

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science in our future economy and productivity. Given the fact that

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currently, the USA, Germany and France, all outspend us in this

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area, can he give a commitment that the future spending will actually

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outstrip them to give us some sort of competitive advantage over them?

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Well, the honourable gentleman is a thoughtful member on these matters,

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having chaired the select scomitty, and he will see in the green paper,

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we are very candid about the need to keep the pace -- committee. We have

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increased the public investment that we have. He should know - he

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mentions the US and is right to do so - but in terms of proportion

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national investment, it's higher than in Germany, Japan, Sweden,

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Denmark, Finland and Norway and other countries besides, so we are

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building on strength but want to take it forward and I look forward

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to his contribution to the consultation.

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There is great concern about the future of fusion research after

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Britain pulls out of the European Union. Could the Secretary of State

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give reassurance that he'll continue to support and fully fund the joint

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European project after Britain leaves the European Union? I would

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say to my right honourable friend that the collaboration we have

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between scientists and between workers in the nuclear sector is one

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of the important aspects of continued cooperation that we very

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much want and intend to see continue.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Yes, the green paper does make much of

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reannouncing a welcome increase in science spend which following cuts

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of up to 50% over the last seven years, has finally returned to it

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the levels of the last Labour Government. However, R D funding

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remains barely half the recommended 3% target that Labour has committed

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to. So does the Secretary of State agree that, given the impact of

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Brexit on UK science, the lack of any overarching vision, the focus on

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picking sector winners, rather than mobilising the whole...

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THE SPEAKER: Extremely grateful to the honourable lady. Order. I'm

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sorry, we have got a lot to get through. The frontbench on both

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sides must be much more self-disciplined, it's not fair on

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backbenchers. Secretary of State? The honourable lady didn't have it

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right. She should know, and the science sector has welcomed the fact

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that we protected funding for science during all of the difficult

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years in which we were recovering from the finances that the party

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opposite gave. There was a huge welcome for the ?2 billion a year

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increase, it's the biggest since 1979. In other words it's bigger

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than any Labour Government ever offered.

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Thank you. With your permission, I will answer this question together

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with questions five, six and 11. The UK has the second largest aerospace

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industry worldwide with strengths in some of the most technologically

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advanced parts of aircraft wings, engines and advance systems. The

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sector has annual turnover of ?30 billion and exports some ?20 billion

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a year. Leading aerospace designers and

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manufacturers see aerospace in my constituency speak positively of

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support from the Government's sharing in growth scheme which they

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say will be key in helping the company realise its ambitious growth

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strategy. Would the minister congratulate the company on their

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plans and consider visiting Congleton to learn more about this?

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I absolutely share her congratulations to the company in

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question. I have myself visited companies benefitted from the

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sharing of growth programme and would be delighted to visit them in

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her constituency. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Rochester and

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Stroud has a proud aerospace history. It's now home to an

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important supply chain for Airbus. Could my right honourable friend

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outline how he'll ensure the supply chain will continue to have

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unhindered access to major opportunities within our

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manufacturing industry? As the honourable lady will know, the

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aerospace growth has been a success in which the way Government's worked

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closely with industry and, as part of that, the Government's made a

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joint funding commitment with the industry for nearly ?4 billion of

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aerospace research between 2013 and 2026. So I think the future is

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realtively well funded. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What

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guarantees will the minister give to the group representing the UK

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aerospace industry ADS when he states that they must have "access

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to vital space programmes initiated by the new Space Agency, but also

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funded by specific EU programmes"? Well, my right honourable friend,

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the Secretary of State, already talked about the importance of the

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satellite programmes that we have got in this country and, the

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European Space Agency sits outside the EU structure itself and

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therefore will be handled separately from EU discussions.

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Following the contracts signed in Turkey last week by the United

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Kingdom and Turkey on the new Turkish fighter jet, does my right

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honourable friend see this as an endorsement in skills and expertise

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of BAE Systems in this country, and does he foresee future deals leg

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done with other countries? Well, I think everyone concerned with the

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aerospace sector will welcome that transaction. It shows how BAE

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continues to be a global leader in this sector and we'll go on to do

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further such work around the world. Last two years, Glasgow's built more

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satellites than any other city in Europe, where there are 100 private

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sector organisations, collidespace has contributed more than ?130

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million to the Scottish economy. This is much credited to Scotland's

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long-standing strength in engineering in strength, science and

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technology. As he face a hard Tory Brexit, will the Secretary of State

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make a commitment that the sector will be protected and there'll be no

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detriment to the vital sector and the jobs? The success of Scotland

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has been part of a wider UK success. I echo the point the lady meant. I

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was in Glasgow last week looking and talking to hi-tech companies at the

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university and I can absolutely vouch for their quality.

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Mr Speaker, in my former career as an aerospace engineer, I saw several

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examples where - they haven't heard the question yet, Mr Speaker! I saw

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several examples where the competitiveness was diminished by

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political enforcement of collaboration and engineering across

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Europe. Will he ensure that in future collaboration across Europe

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on aerospace matters is where it's productive and not where it suits

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geopolitical objectives? I admire the subtle and unobtrusive

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way in which my colleague brought his personal experience into that

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question and I can assure him that we'll take a thoroughly cooperative

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approach. At the recent Steel 2020 report

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noted steel is a key foundation industry for the UK that underpins

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our aerospace automotive and many other sectors.

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But, in their 130-page industrial strategy green paper, steel is

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mentioned just once. Can he explain why he's neglecting this important

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industry? I am very surprised to hear her say

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that because the Government has had very productive discussions with the

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steel industry indeed. Number three, please, Mr Speaker. With your

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permission, I will answer this together with questions four, 12 and

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17. The website and helpline provides information on starting and

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running a business. Hubs provide access to local and national

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support. There are 4.8 million people currently self-employed. When

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I started a business myself, one of the most intimidating elements was

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employing my first member of staff. What more can the Government do to

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in courage and support the self-employed to grow and become

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employers in their own right? We will support entrepreneurs across

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the UK to ensure they can access finance and wider support to grow.

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Bank programmes are already supporting ?3.2 billion worth of

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finance to over 51,000 smaller businesses, including start-up loans

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to 39 entrepreneurs in my honourable friend's constituency. This is a

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matter close to my heart as someone who was self-employed until a few

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months ago. The many self-employed businesses in the areas of West

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Oxfordshire. We need deregulation, helping businesses to attract and

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seek the finance they need. We continue to work hard to make the UK

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a great place to start and grow a business. We are currently,

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according to the OECD statistics, third internationally for the best

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pace to start a business, but we are 13th for the best place to grow a

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business which is where my focus is going to live. I very much welcome

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the support of my honourable friend -- lie. North Kensington has several

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fantastic initiatives were new start-ups have access to shared

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space. Have they any plans to reduce business rates for small companies

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using shared space initiatives? The Treasury has no plans specifically

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for shared work spaces, however, at the last budget, the Chancellor

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announced 6.7 billion of cuts benefiting all business ratepayers,

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including permanently doubling small business rate relief thresholds from

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2017. Can my honourable friend tell the House how the industrial

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strategy will support disabled people who want to start and grow

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their own businesses? The disabled employment programme is a very

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important part of our work in labour markets and it is backed by many top

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retailers and we will continue to press and work with the Department

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for Work and Pensions for greater access to work for people with

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disabilities. In order to grow businesses, they need to have access

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to good quality training. I met with the Doncaster YMCA last week and

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their apprentices and there was an issue about clarity of funding in

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the transition arrangements from the skills fund agency to the Department

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for Education. Can the Minister take an urgent look at this? I thank her

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for bringing this to our attention. Skills and a new approach to

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improving access to schools and apprenticeships is a fundamental

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part of our new industrial strategy and I will raise the matter she has

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raised this morning with the Secretary of State for Education.

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Thank you. Given the fact that many self-employed people recruit

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apprentices and also others who are seeking employment and given the

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report recently produced by the Institute for Fiscal Studies,

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casting doubt on the effectiveness of apprentices and their training

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scheme and apprenticeship with every, what is the Government going

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to do about that? -- levy. The new academies programme for improving

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skills and access to apprenticeships, it is working with

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the existing programme to improve both the quality and numbers of

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apprentices. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Further education colleges have an

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important role in skills and trading and they can help many people into

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work. Does it make sense to cut the budget of further education

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colleges? Further education colleges remain a very important part of our

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strategy to improve skills and access to apprenticeships, but they

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are not the only route. The apprentice levy will increase

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funding for the overall access to schools for our young people.

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Digital tax updates, it is a real concern for the self-employed and

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small businesses. HMIC says support is available. Can the Minister

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outlined the support available to help self-employed businesses and

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how much funding is set aside for the support? The honourable

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gentleman talks about the... I am so sorry. I did not follow all of his

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question. But I know the Treasury are looking at the fairness of

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taxation between self-employed people and the rest of the workforce

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and I will read his question in Hansard and write to him

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accordingly. With the ranks of self-employed being expanded by an

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increase in independent working, will she make sure that labour

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market regulations are updated so that employee rights are maintained?

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I very much agree with the thrust of my honourable friend's question and

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the Prime Minister appointed Matthew Taylor to undertake a review of

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practices in the modern economy to ensure that whilst we impress new

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technology, we also protect workers' rights -- we embrace. What is the

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Government doing about the scourge of bogus offer employment which too

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often is a rip off of the workers concerned and a rip-off of HMIC? The

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review will also look at that very important point, a worker's contract

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with the employer is the fundamental basis on which they are judged to be

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self-employed or a worker and that distinction will be closely

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scrutinised by Matthew Taylor. Number seven, please, Mr Speaker.

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SMEs in Kent are fundamental to the economy, as everywhere else. The

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Government through local growth funds and Kent County Council and

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the Kent and Medway business operations will ensure that Kent and

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the Medway benefit hugely in the terms of the increase in numbers of

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SMEs. Taking into account the Government's commitment to

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investment in infrastructure which will assist businesses in Medway and

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Kent, can the Minister confirm that Government's commitment to the lower

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Thames crossing along with extra investment for roads providing

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connectivity for local businesses in the Medway and Kent? The Department

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for Transport will make an announcement on the issue my

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honourable friend has raised, but he should be reassured that Kent County

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Council and the relevant business organisations are working closely

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with my department to ensure there are extensive improvements to the

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transport infrastructure in his constituency and the wider county.

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Not on the matter, purely focused on Kent and Medway, in which I'm sure

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the honourable lady specialises. You can be assured of that. The SMEs in

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Kent and Medway need someone to fight their corner in government. In

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July, 2015, they were promised a small business commissioner that

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would have a particular focus on late payments. The Federation of

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Small Businesses have raised concerns about the lack of power the

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commissioner will have and that 18 months after the position was

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created, there is no sign of a commissioner. Can she tell SMEs in

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Kent and Medway for whom I have the greatest regard and across the

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country, when will the commission be appointed and will there be proper

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powers given to the commissioner to ensure companies who do not pay

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taken to task? I can reassure in the first instance the honourable lady

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that the constituency of Kent and Medway is ably championed by my

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honourable friend who asked the original question. But apropos her

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point about the small business commissioner, we are in the process

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of appointing the commissioner at the moment and he will be imposed by

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the summer and able to take complaints on the very important

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issue she raises of prompt payment in the autumn of this year. Question

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eight. Thank you. The Hendry review published its report earlier this

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month. The Government is considering the recommendations and the issues

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that would arise from a broader lagoon programme including the

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Government will publish a response generated by tidal

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Government will publish a response in due course. As an MP with a

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constituency on the coast, following the review, it has been estimated

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building some ten tidal lagoon power stations by 2030 could generate 10%

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of our electricity. When considering the economics of the scheme, will he

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take into account the wider benefits for British manufacturing and

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technology of becoming a world leader in this clean technology? My

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colleague is right to recognise that the question must be considered in

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the round and not merely on the merits of the Swansea scheme. It is

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the Government's job to consider the advantages and disadvantages of

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tidal lagoons as a whole and to take a decision which includes not merely

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financial elements but also environmental, the capacity to

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generate power, as part of a wider energy mix, and ancillary elements

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as well. The Minister surely knows that all kinds of alternative energy

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including tidal power need good recruits, trainees and indeed needs

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apprentices. Isn't he hanging his head in shame this morning because

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of the report from the Institute for Fiscal Studies, highly respected,

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that says the apprenticeship programme of this government is a

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disaster and should be ripped up and started again? When is he going to

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get real? Purely in relation to tidal lagoons. We're not talking

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about apprenticeships more widely or shoehorning in a personal interest.

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The Henri gentleman is philosopher and extras to a fault. Heaven for I

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should entertain such unworthy suspicions. They are simply reassure

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him that skills remain at the centre of the Government's concerns and

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that is why they feature so Pompey in the industrial strategy.

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Marvellous. The Minister is quite right to say that he will analyse

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this in the round because while I think many of us will recognise the

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economic advantage, particularly over a long period, like 100-150

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years, the environmental impact will be considerable. Can he amplify what

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sort of things he will be looking at, including how tidal lagoons

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affect fish life, marine life and bird life? It is of course true that

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as well as the economic case and value for money issues it raises,

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there will be wider consideration of the environmental impact, but not

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just in relation to individual schemes, as they can be understood

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now, but the way they might accumulate over many tidal lagoons.

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The Government has been very good at supporting the scheme in Northern

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Ireland, can we ensure that what is learned in devolved governments

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makes the most of what we learn from tidal power, not the immense in

:25:19.:25:21.

Northern Ireland, but what we generate? I can again... One

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hesitates to remind my honourable friend that it is a different matter

:25:27.:25:31.

and technology from tidal lagoons, but I think he can take it as read

:25:32.:25:37.

that officials and ministers will be thinking carefully about all of the

:25:38.:25:39.

relevant precedents bearing on the issue. Thank you. The question this

:25:40.:25:50.

morning was about potential contribution of power generated by

:25:51.:25:53.

tidal lagoons to UK energy provision and my understanding is that a

:25:54.:25:58.

limited deployment of tidal lagoons in the seven history alone would

:25:59.:26:04.

contribute about 8% to UK electricity demand -- in the Severn

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estuary. Can any other technology provide that sort of power in one

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location? As a clue, Hinkley C is estimated to contribute about 7% to

:26:20.:26:26.

UK energy requirements. I doubt suggest that honourable gentleman is

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misinformed. It is not quite clear what he thinks of as the lagoons

:26:31.:26:36.

contained in the scheme he describes but Hinkley Point will be a bigger

:26:37.:26:41.

generator than certainly the first round of lagoons and as well as

:26:42.:26:47.

being a high load and more reliable. Question nine, Mr Speaker.

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Apologies, Mr Speaker. As I have mentioned, the issues considered by

:26:56.:27:01.

the Hendry review complex and the Government will be using and

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demanding a period of time to assess the recommendations to determine

:27:05.:27:08.

which decision is in the best interests of UK energy consumers. I

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have said separately in debate but we will not be dragging our heels

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and we will not. There is huge potential for tidal.

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I'm concerned about the department dragging its heels. Will the

:27:26.:27:29.

minister assure me there'll be strong leadership to take the

:27:30.:27:33.

recommendations forward to get on with the Swansea and other schemes.

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I'm very surprised he should say that since it was the department's

:27:38.:27:41.

expectation that the report would have been published before Christmas

:27:42.:27:44.

and it was only published a matter of two or three weeks ago. There is

:27:45.:27:48.

no suggestion the department is dragging its heels. We'll give this

:27:49.:27:51.

however a thorough consideration in the public interest on value for

:27:52.:27:58.

money and other grounds as well. The minister in a previous answer

:27:59.:28:01.

referred to advantages and disadvantages. Would he agree with

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me that the Swansea bay tide lagoon could not only serve to provide

:28:07.:28:12.

energy needs but could provide needed jobs in my area and would,

:28:13.:28:23.

out Wales at the forefront of developing a very important

:28:24.:28:27.

technology. Proper concern for support and investment in his

:28:28.:28:31.

community, that is absolutely right. The wider implications are being

:28:32.:28:38.

reviewed. This was asked to be considered in power generation. The

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report that refers to tidal energy. The minister will know that in

:28:47.:28:50.

Northern Ireland the first large scale tidal scheme generator was

:28:51.:28:57.

four times more at that time in the world at Strangford Lock. What

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consideration will he give to making sure that this energy has been used

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can be utilised for the benefit of all of Northern Ireland? Well, this,

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as I indicated in a separate debate with the honourable gentleman, is a

:29:14.:29:16.

different, although related technology. It was funded in part by

:29:17.:29:22.

Government and has been very interesting, the results that it's

:29:23.:29:26.

given. They are a matter of close consideration by officials and we

:29:27.:29:29.

will continue to reflect on the matter. If he wishes to write to me

:29:30.:29:33.

further on this, I would be delighted to take a letter.

:29:34.:29:39.

One of the poor objective -- core objectives is to rebalance the UK

:29:40.:29:42.

economy with engineering, construction and manufacturing,

:29:43.:29:44.

making a larger contribution to economic growth. So does the

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minister agree that if we are to achieve the objectives we absolutely

:29:48.:29:51.

need to be investing in major infrastructure projects like the

:29:52.:29:56.

tidal lagoon? I absolutely share his view that major infrastructure

:29:57.:29:58.

investments are a huge major part, although only a part of the wider

:29:59.:30:02.

infrastructure investment that can be made and overall investment that

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can be made in this country as part of the industrial strategy. I do

:30:07.:30:11.

think though that he's right to have said that these wider considerations

:30:12.:30:15.

must be balanced by a tempered assessment of value for money as

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well and that is what we'll give it. With all due respect to the

:30:21.:30:24.

minister, simply not dragging your department's heels is simply not

:30:25.:30:29.

good enough. The report recommends the minister secures the path-finder

:30:30.:30:32.

project as swiftly as possible. I can promise he'll have the full

:30:33.:30:36.

support of the members on this side of the House, although I'm unsure

:30:37.:30:41.

he'll have the same support of many of those behind you. Will the

:30:42.:30:45.

minister therefore press the Chancellor for an agreement on the

:30:46.:30:48.

Swansea tidal lagoon to be announced in the March budget? Well, again, I

:30:49.:30:54.

admire the honourable gentleman's dexterity in turning three weeks

:30:55.:30:58.

into foot-dragging. Can I just, since given his scrutiny of the

:30:59.:31:04.

review, may I simply remind him that the review itself specifically asks

:31:05.:31:08.

Government to give these issues careful consideration as we will be

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doing. Thank you, Mr Speaker. As plaintiff

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the Secretary of State has already said, we are supporting research and

:31:20.:31:24.

development throughout the UK. We protected the resource budget in

:31:25.:31:28.

2015 and committed an additional ?2 billion in the most recent Autumn

:31:29.:31:33.

Statement. The largest increase in science spending since 1979.

:31:34.:31:38.

Thank you, Mr Speaker. A hard Brexit will threaten Scotland's world class

:31:39.:31:41.

university sector and the price of the research development investment

:31:42.:31:46.

that we are talking about is a staggering ?8.8 billion euros from

:31:47.:31:53.

2017-2030. What is being done to protect that vital investment?

:31:54.:32:00.

Scotland is indeed a powerhouse for academic research and we want to

:32:01.:32:03.

play to one of this country's great strengths. So we welcome agreement

:32:04.:32:08.

to continue to collaborate with our European partners on major science

:32:09.:32:10.

and technology programmes in years to come. Britain will remain at the

:32:11.:32:14.

forefront of collective endeavours to better understand and improve the

:32:15.:32:20.

world in which we live. Of course, the most important

:32:21.:32:23.

investment that we must safeguard is that of the people that are working

:32:24.:32:29.

in science and research. What is the minister doing to ensure that

:32:30.:32:37.

researchers in Scotland are assured their place, EU researchers are

:32:38.:32:41.

assured a place as we go through the Brexit process? The honourable lady

:32:42.:32:47.

makes an important point and this Government's made clear that we

:32:48.:32:51.

value greatly the contribution that EU nationals make in our

:32:52.:32:55.

institutions. The Government has been exceptionally clear that during

:32:56.:32:58.

negotiations we want to protect the status of EU nationals already

:32:59.:33:00.

living here and the only circumstances in which that would

:33:01.:33:04.

not be possible is if British citizens and other EU member states

:33:05.:33:06.

were not in return being protected. We invest ?2 billion per year in

:33:07.:33:19.

health Life Sciences research through our research councils and

:33:20.:33:23.

through the National Institute of Health research. We are bringing the

:33:24.:33:30.

funding for the biomedical catalyst, we are helping businesses bring the

:33:31.:33:33.

important research to market. In the new industrial strategy, we have

:33:34.:33:36.

recently announced that Sir John Bell will be leading work on a

:33:37.:33:40.

strategy to make the UK the best place in the world for Life

:33:41.:33:44.

Sciences. Alongside the welcome support,

:33:45.:33:47.

critical to the success of the industry will be private investment.

:33:48.:33:51.

Could the minister outline what suggestions he might be making in

:33:52.:33:54.

his budget submission to the Chancellor to stimulate this

:33:55.:33:57.

investment? Well, my right honourable friend

:33:58.:34:00.

makes an important point. Access to finance is key to a dynamic Life

:34:01.:34:05.

Sciences sector in the UK. In November, the Prime Minister

:34:06.:34:08.

announced a review into patient capital to identify barriers to

:34:09.:34:11.

access to long-term finance for growing firms looking at all aspects

:34:12.:34:16.

of the financial system and we look forward to the review's

:34:17.:34:18.

recommendations ahead of the Autumn Statement.

:34:19.:34:24.

The industrial strategy will have a major impact on speeding up the

:34:25.:34:30.

ability to seek. Will my right honourable friend agree or confirm

:34:31.:34:32.

he's working with the Department of Health to ensure the Government's

:34:33.:34:36.

investment will be spent effectively to encourage greater productivity?

:34:37.:34:41.

Indeed. The industrial strategy green paper highlights work on a new

:34:42.:34:46.

strategy for Life Sciences bringing together the health system industry

:34:47.:34:50.

and academia potentially leading to an early sector deal and the

:34:51.:34:55.

accelerated access review sets out a vision of the NHS embracing

:34:56.:34:57.

innovation and Government will respond in due course.

:34:58.:35:05.

One of our most important reforms has been to devolve power and

:35:06.:35:10.

resources to local areas through deals in which local businesses can

:35:11.:35:13.

shape the decisions most affecting them. The honourable lady will have

:35:14.:35:16.

welcomed the fact that last week, half a billion pounds was devolved

:35:17.:35:22.

to northern Local Enterprise Partnerships, including ?130 million

:35:23.:35:24.

to Greater Manchester. Thank you very much. I do very much

:35:25.:35:30.

welcome some of the announcements in the industrial strategy last week,

:35:31.:35:34.

most of them. But the Secretary of State will appreciate that when it

:35:35.:35:39.

comes to key infrastructure issues, such as skills and childcare, they

:35:40.:35:45.

very much have a local area strategy that is required. So what

:35:46.:35:48.

conversations has the Secretary of State had with his colleagues in the

:35:49.:35:52.

Department for Education and across Local Government about real and

:35:53.:35:56.

meaningful devolution of skills and early years and education?

:35:57.:36:01.

My right honourable friend is absolutely right, that the needs of

:36:02.:36:06.

different places should be reflected in decisions that are made locally.

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It's a big theme of the industrial strategy consultation to which I

:36:12.:36:16.

hope she'll respond, as is the centrality of skills and training so

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I look forward to her contribution to it.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker. Business investment in science and technology

:36:24.:36:27.

are key to local economic growth and Britain's leadership of the fourth

:36:28.:36:32.

Industrial Revolution. Will he continue supporting this? I will

:36:33.:36:39.

indeed and I think one of the big opportunities is to make sure the

:36:40.:36:42.

excellence we have in science and research is married with local

:36:43.:36:46.

strength so we can have the products of that research in manufacturing,

:36:47.:36:49.

for example, as well as the discoveries themselves. In Northern

:36:50.:36:58.

Ireland there is only one small enterprise in Coleraine which hasn't

:36:59.:37:02.

really progressed. Can the minister assist the Northern Ireland

:37:03.:37:06.

Executive when it's up and running again for more enterprises within

:37:07.:37:11.

the province -- enterprise zones within the province. I have met with

:37:12.:37:15.

the minister responsible in Northern Ireland and I'm very happy with my

:37:16.:37:19.

colleagues to, when we meet with him again, to consider what his

:37:20.:37:26.

suggestions and proposals are. The borough of Kettering has had one

:37:27.:37:29.

of the fastest rates of business rate growth in the whole country in

:37:30.:37:33.

if last ten years. Would my right honourable friend agree that, with

:37:34.:37:36.

Local Government to be fully funded by business rates from 2020, all

:37:37.:37:40.

local councils are going to have to get far closer to their local

:37:41.:37:44.

businesses in order for the local economies to function as best they

:37:45.:37:46.

could? My right honourable friend is absolutely right, and he knows, as a

:37:47.:37:51.

councillor, whoseth how important it is that that very direct connection

:37:52.:37:56.

is made. It is one of the measures that is going through the House that

:37:57.:38:00.

I was proud to have proposed when I was the Communities Secretary. It's

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something that Local Government has long campaigned for and I'm

:38:04.:38:06.

delighted this was this Conservative Government that was able to deliver

:38:07.:38:10.

it. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Bank lending

:38:11.:38:16.

is essential for local business success and yesterday's HBOS

:38:17.:38:19.

convictions were a stark reminder of the way smaller businesses were

:38:20.:38:23.

treated during the financial crisis by some banks. Does he accept

:38:24.:38:26.

lending has fallen over the last year and what is he doing to give

:38:27.:38:31.

confidence in the banks unlock support and increase lending?

:38:32.:38:35.

The honourable gentleman is absolutely right to draw attention

:38:36.:38:39.

to the misbehaviour of the banks, especially with regard to small

:38:40.:38:44.

businesses, when they were inadequately supervised as a result

:38:45.:38:48.

of the destruction of the supervisory regime that the previous

:38:49.:38:51.

Government introduced. That is now put on a much more sounder footing

:38:52.:38:56.

and he will know that the lending opportunities for small businesses

:38:57.:39:00.

have been transformed, but the industrial strategy green paper is

:39:01.:39:05.

very clear that we want to make further opportunities available

:39:06.:39:07.

outside London and the south-east in particular.

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The UK is the largest wind industry, and I visited the new ?300 million

:39:27.:39:33.

Siemens factory which created over 1,000 valuable new jobs in the

:39:34.:39:37.

Humber area. This afternoon, the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership

:39:38.:39:41.

and Humber MPs are staging the showcase event to highlight the

:39:42.:39:47.

assets that the energy estuary has. Could the minister assure business

:39:48.:39:51.

leaders that the Government will continue to support the off shore

:39:52.:39:55.

centre that is based in northern Lincolnshire and the wider Humber

:39:56.:39:58.

region and will he or one of his colleagues find time to visit the

:39:59.:40:01.

event this afternoon? Well, yes to the event and yes to

:40:02.:40:06.

the assurance that he seeks about continued support on top of the

:40:07.:40:10.

growth and the city deals and the enterprise zone programme. My right

:40:11.:40:13.

honourable friend will be well aware of the very significant Government

:40:14.:40:18.

commitment to future contract for different auctions worth ?730

:40:19.:40:22.

million for less mature renewable technologies including off shore

:40:23.:40:25.

wind and I help he welcomes that. What steps is the Government taking

:40:26.:40:30.

to ensure the highest possible UK content in the steel used to build

:40:31.:40:34.

the energy infrastructure in the Humber? It's an extremely important

:40:35.:40:39.

point and part of the calculation on return for investment made by the

:40:40.:40:43.

British taxpayer. Good progress is being made and this shows that ago

:40:44.:40:49.

regated lifetime UK contact in operating windfarms is 43% against a

:40:50.:40:52.

target of around 50% and it's a higher number for the value of

:40:53.:40:56.

operations in maintenance contracts running at 70% of value at the

:40:57.:41:00.

moment. This will be a key area of our focus in the industrial

:41:01.:41:03.

strategy. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Question 16.

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My right honourable friend has had discussions with the Chancellor in

:41:09.:41:13.

building the Government's industrial strategy which includes ensuring

:41:14.:41:16.

businesses can access the finance they need. We already help

:41:17.:41:20.

businesses through the business finance and support finder on gov.

:41:21.:41:25.

Uk and recently launched the finance platform service which offers SMEs

:41:26.:41:30.

rejected for finance by the large banks the option of a referral to

:41:31.:41:33.

alternative finance providers. With many online alternative finance

:41:34.:41:42.

companies springing up, what is she doing twin short SMEs know about

:41:43.:41:49.

alternative ways of accessing finance and what is she doing to

:41:50.:41:52.

give them confidence to borrow from such organisations? -- what is she

:41:53.:42:04.

doing to ensure a SMEs. The financing options available to

:42:05.:42:09.

businesses including alternative sources of finance. The Financial

:42:10.:42:13.

Conduct Authority regulates peer to peer lending platforms and is

:42:14.:42:17.

currently reviewing its regime to insure it is robust and up to date.

:42:18.:42:22.

What assessment has the Minister made of the impact of bank closures

:42:23.:42:27.

in town centres on the availability of business finance so that town

:42:28.:42:33.

centres such as mine which is losing three banks this year potentially

:42:34.:42:38.

will still have access to business finance and a positive town centre?

:42:39.:42:47.

The impact of bank closures is to some extent ameliorated by the

:42:48.:42:52.

announcement by the post office a few weeks ago whereby the post

:42:53.:43:00.

office will be enabling both personal and SME banking customers

:43:01.:43:07.

to have face to face banking services across the country. We will

:43:08.:43:16.

take the last question on condition... I want to move onto the

:43:17.:43:23.

business promptly. If it is a single sentence, but if it is a long

:43:24.:43:28.

question, we will not bother. Single or short sentence, that is what is

:43:29.:43:37.

required. 19. This year the medical research council will spend ?655

:43:38.:43:42.

million on world-class research, our commitment to the future of the UK

:43:43.:43:46.

as a world leader in biomedical research is unwavering. In November,

:43:47.:43:51.

the Queen opened an institute and will continue to invest in this kind

:43:52.:43:54.

of excellence throughout this Parliament. Autism is the most

:43:55.:43:58.

costly medical condition in the UK and it cost the economy more than

:43:59.:44:03.

?32 billion a year according to the LSE and yet we do not spend hardly

:44:04.:44:08.

anything on research into autism compared to cancer and heart disease

:44:09.:44:12.

and stroke which cost the economy less. What can the Minister do to

:44:13.:44:16.

encourage more spending on autism research which is so vital to people

:44:17.:44:24.

in this country? Between 2010-11 and 2014-15, we spent ?13.3 million on

:44:25.:44:30.

research. They always welcome high-quality applications for

:44:31.:44:33.

support into any aspect of human health and they are subject to peer

:44:34.:44:38.

review. The department for health through the Nationalist you to the

:44:39.:44:41.

search also funds research in the area and the medical research

:44:42.:44:45.

council centre at King's College London open very recently in

:44:46.:44:53.

November, 2016. Chicago is have question framed and put up -- she

:44:54.:44:57.

can always have her question framed. Number one, Mr Speaker. Thank you.

:44:58.:45:07.

With the Prime Minister, we have launched a green paper, part of a

:45:08.:45:10.

cross government plan to build an economy working for everyone.

:45:11.:45:14.

Efforts to secure global investment continued to meet with success, the

:45:15.:45:20.

most recent example of the 150 million investment in Oxford, a

:45:21.:45:23.

further vote of confidence in Britain as a place to do business

:45:24.:45:28.

and science. Today we launch the next energy capacity market auction.

:45:29.:45:31.

Last month I signed a memorandum of corporation with the government of

:45:32.:45:36.

Japan and on Thursday I announced we have secured a second mission to

:45:37.:45:42.

space for certain peak. -- for Tim Peake. May I ask why it

:45:43.:45:48.

extraordinary lead busy friend to turn his attentions to Morecambe as

:45:49.:45:53.

we now have a new link road and we would like an enterprise zone? Would

:45:54.:45:58.

he help me? I am never too busy for Morecambe. I know what a passionate

:45:59.:46:03.

campaigner he has been for the business prospects in his area. I

:46:04.:46:07.

will talk to the Minister for the Northern powerhouse who has

:46:08.:46:10.

responsible T4 enterprise zones and I am sure he will be delighted to

:46:11.:46:14.

meet with him. The Secretary of State plan to impose arbitrary cuts

:46:15.:46:18.

on the pensions of nuclear power workers, it threatens industrial

:46:19.:46:24.

relations in a key sector. Can I urge him to take the opportunity at

:46:25.:46:27.

the meeting this week with trade unions to end his attack on the

:46:28.:46:32.

workers and abandon the rain on the pensions before the industry is

:46:33.:46:38.

turned into chaos? I met with the unions myself last week and we had

:46:39.:46:45.

some very constructive, although undoubtedly robust, conversations

:46:46.:46:51.

and that discussion continues. We hope it will end in a constructive

:46:52.:46:58.

way. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What discussions has my right honourable

:46:59.:47:02.

friend had with representatives of industry in relation to the UK

:47:03.:47:06.

leaving the EU and in particular the steel industry? As he would expect,

:47:07.:47:13.

we meet with my colleagues and representatives of all kinds of

:47:14.:47:19.

businesses, both here and those looking to invest here, and we are

:47:20.:47:23.

very clear, as has been the Prime Minister, that we intend to pursue

:47:24.:47:28.

our negotiations to secure the best possible access to the single market

:47:29.:47:32.

so that the manifest advantages of the UK can continue to be available

:47:33.:47:36.

to companies here, now and in the future. Thank you. European

:47:37.:47:43.

Commission state aid approval for the steel industry is still not in

:47:44.:47:47.

place. Will the Secretary of State guarantee compensation under the

:47:48.:47:52.

package will be provided by the UK Government until the exemption is

:47:53.:48:00.

finally introduced? We are in discussions around the mechanics of

:48:01.:48:04.

that and it do its part of a broader, session the Secretary of

:48:05.:48:07.

State and I are having with senior management of the industry and trade

:48:08.:48:15.

unions about the skewing a sustainable future -- about

:48:16.:48:22.

obtaining a sustainable future. We see lots of opportunities for the

:48:23.:48:28.

college and local industry. He has visitors Loughborough, perhaps I can

:48:29.:48:36.

tempt him to meet in London is too much I commend Loughborough

:48:37.:48:40.

University and the Vice Chancellor. It is a fantastic example of an

:48:41.:48:44.

excellent academic institution making a big impact locally and I

:48:45.:48:49.

always very happy to meet with my right honourable friend and the

:48:50.:48:56.

leadership the fine university. The removal of the renewables obligation

:48:57.:49:00.

and decimation of the tariff has had a few huge negative impact on my

:49:01.:49:04.

constituency with renewables being the one tangible area we have to

:49:05.:49:08.

grind off a highly paid jobs. One year on from the struck only in

:49:09.:49:11.

measures, what we assessment has been made of the policy? I would say

:49:12.:49:23.

that this country is on track to be investing in excess of ?8 million a

:49:24.:49:27.

year by 2020 in terms of the continuing transition to cleaner

:49:28.:49:32.

energy systems and we are talking about a low carbon economy now and

:49:33.:49:37.

generating at last count at least 450,000 jobs and as I made clear in

:49:38.:49:41.

an earlier announcement, there are new commitments in terms of

:49:42.:49:44.

contracts for different auctions for less mature renewable technologies.

:49:45.:49:50.

This government's commitment to new technology is not in doubt. Can I

:49:51.:49:55.

welcome the first two pillars of the industrial strategy, investment in

:49:56.:49:58.

science and developing skills? Will he therefore agreed to meet with me

:49:59.:50:02.

to discuss how the work of my committee can act as a road map in

:50:03.:50:06.

delivering the Government's names? I hope that my honourable friend's

:50:07.:50:12.

committee will engage with the consultation and it is very

:50:13.:50:16.

important that if we are to have a strategy that end users, it needs to

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take into account the views of all those and on all sides of the House

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with an interest in securing our economic prosperity and scientific

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excellence in the future. An ambitious prudes could create half a

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million new jobs -- and ambitious approach. It is disappointing there

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is very little mention of resource efficiency and low carbon growth

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meat growth in the strategy. Can the Government reassure me they are

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taking it seriously? -- low carbon growth. She says it is not mentioned

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in the strategy, it is, it is one of the pillars, a commitment to clean

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growth, and within that, very explicit references to our desire to

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explore opportunities attached to hire resource and energy

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productivity. It is 100 years since the destruction of the village

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following an act of environmental destruction that saw the removal of

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shingle from the shoreline, but communities in our coastline face an

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even greater threat of climate change. Will he ensure me -- will he

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assure me we will not commit the environmental act of vandalism of

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withdrawing from the Paris agreement? What I would say is as

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the Prime Minister said in Prime Minister's Questions, this country

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is fully committed to the Paris agreement, as are all of the

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countries who endorsed the Marrakesh proclamation. She said that we hope

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all parties will continue to make sure that climate change agreement

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is put into practice. Since the EU referendum, the depreciation of

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sterling has boosted British manufacturing and exports but as we

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are leaving the EU, will the government now start to support the

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vital expansion of our industries and the promotion of import

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substitution? We want British business and industry to compete on

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the basis that it is excellent and priced competitively. But I think

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there are opportunities in being outside some of the bureaucracy

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especially that affect small businesses when it comes to public

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procurement and that there is one of the opportunities we will be able to

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take. Has his appetite diminished? No? Get in there. Could I just urge

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my right honourable friend not to be swayed by the arguments from those

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opposite to spend a specific amount of our GDP on research for

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scientific projects? I believe that if the private sector are unwilling

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to fund these projects, we should ask serious questions about whether

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the public sector and my hard-working taxpayers should be

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asked to foot the bill. Private business is an enthusiastic and

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increasing supporter of investment in science and research. Sometimes

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that is done jointly with important publicly funded institutions such as

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our universities and that is one of our strengths as an economy. In

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November, the Secretary of State called energy companies into his

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department to put pressure on them regarding claims they were

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generating excess profits. This morning at the select committee,

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Which? told us energy companies were dismal when it came to customer

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service and prices, does he agree with that assessment from Which? and

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would he outlined to the House what progress has been made to get a

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better deal for energy customers? Yes, he raises an important point.

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The CMA report identified a huge amount of betterment that consumers

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were facing -- detriment. There has been some limited response from the

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energy companies. They have deleted some of their more abusive tariffs

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but there is further to go and we will be making our response to the

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CMA report in the days ahead. It has been recently announced that the

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strategy for the Midlands will be announced soon. The Midlands engine

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is vital for the business in Derby and the Midlands and can I urge the

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Secretary of State to consider it sooner rather than later? The

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Midlands engine is a very important part of the strengthening of the

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economy. There is real momentum there and she will look forward, I

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am sure, to some very important announcements that will be made

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imminently. Last week, the Minister said there have been clearly

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instances in which the code has been planted and the membership should

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bring things to her attention. I have a case in her constituency. It

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also shows the adjudicator is not doing his job. Can we discuss this?

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I am very happy to discuss the case in my constituency with the right

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honourable gentleman but the pub code adjudicator is doing a good

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job, his line of inquiry has received 435 inquiries to date and

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121 referrals for arbitration. But I will discuss the problem with the

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honourable gentleman. Thank you. The industrial strategy makes it clear

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that future rounds of infrastructure investment will take into account

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the balance of spending per head between different regions and stop

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on the basis there is a 60% in balance between London and the rest

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of the country at the moment, what balance with the Secretary of State

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like to see going ahead? His contribution to the consultation, we

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are very clear that we need to see infrastructure investment in all

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parts of the country, it is one of the reasons we have created

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institutions like transport for the North to be able to take those

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decisions locally. The Government's industrial strategy has sector deals

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for a number of sectors which is welcome but given the vital

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crosscutting foundation nature of the steel industry, with the

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minister now commit to a sector deals for the steel industry? I can

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say I have already been having discussions with the steel industry

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with precisely that purpose in mind. Order. We come now to the ten minute

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rule motion and the honourable lady will be pleased she has such

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uninterested, large and expectant audience. Ten minute rule motion.

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Thank you. I beg to move that leave be given to bring in a Bill to make

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provision to prohibit the term honour crimes in all official

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publications, to extend extra territory jurisdiction in certain

:57:27.:57:32.

circumstances crimes committed against UK citizens and to make

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provision for the

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