23/02/2016 Outside Source

Welcome to Outside Source. A few hours ago we heard President Obama

talking about one of the most high profile issues of his time in

office. I'm absolutely committed to closing the detention facility at

Guantanamo. I'm going to continue to make the case for doing so as long

as I hold this office. He'll make the case, but how practical will

this be? We're live in our Washington newsroom. New statistics

on the European migrant crisis. One migrant every minute arrives by boat

into Europe, according to figures for this year. Over 100,000 have

arrived just in January and February. That's a big jump on

lastory's figures. Our Europe correspondent Chris Morris has been

talking to me about the pressure this is applying to the European

Union. One person has died and three are

unaccounted for after the collapse of part of a power station in

southern England. We update you on millions of Mars bars and Snickers

bars being recalled around the world because of piece of plastic in one

bar. Details to come. It is a mouth watering night in the

Champions League, Juventus against Bayern and in London, Arsenal

against Barcelona. As soon as the final whistles go, we'll tell you

the scores. When Barack Obama first ran for

president, he promised to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.

We're now eight years on, almost two terms of his presidency are

complete, and Mr Obama is saying once begin he's going to try and

close it down. In Congress I recognise, in part because of some

of the fears of the public, that have been fanned often times by

misinformation, there continues to be a fair amount of opposition to

closing Guantanamo. If it were easy, it would have happened years ago, as

I wanted. As I have been working to try and get done. But there remains

bipartisan support for closing it. Given the stakes involved for our

security, this plan deserves a fair hearing, even in an election year.

We should be able to have an open, honest g,-faith dialogue, about how

to best ensure our national security. Guantanamo Bay is a bay in

Cuba. But of course, it's also given its name to this detention facility

on the island. If you're wondering why it's in cubament the US has had

-- Cuba, the US has had control of this part of Cuba since the early

Twentieth Century. There's one detail that was highlighted, the

DOD, Department of Defense says, it wants to close the facility, but it

doesn't name a specific US site which could replace it. In fact it

offers a choice of 13, all the evidence suggests that Republicans

don't seem keen on any of those 13 options. We spotted this a little

while ago, posted by the Republican centre Pat Roberts. -- senator Pat

Roberts. This is what I think of the president's plan. 'S plan. To send

terrorists to the United States. That's the senator's point made.

Let's speak to our correspondent live in Washington DC. A pity video

there, does this feel at all practical or is it the president

just making a point? Well, he is making a point. This is clearly very

important to him. It was one of the very first promises he made when he

came into office that he would close Guantanamo Bay down within a year.

It's still very important to him and his legacy. I really don't think

he's got much chance of getting this through Congress. You saw that

reaction there from one Republican. But there have been reactions like

that across the Republican Party, but also from some within the

Democratic Party as well in recent years. I have to say, though we've

been talking about this a great deal, if feels like forever, there

isn't much new in what's been announced today. We were made to

feel, from the White House, that this wars a big deal. Actually he's

talking about a lot of the same things he's talking about before,

which is to return home, or to other countries those cleared for release.

Out of the 91 people left in Guantanamo Bay that's about 35 of

those. There are some problems there. The other thing is to try

those who can be tried in civilian courts, but if that was possible, it

might have happened already. So there are problems there. The big

thing he's focussed on is with those dangerous prisoners, those deemed

dangerous to security of the United States, they should be housed in a

facility which is yet to be created somewhere in the United States. He

is playing more, particularly to a Republican audience, by saying OK,

if you don't agree with closing Guantanamo Bay down for humanitarian

reasons, what about fiscal reasons? It is going to save money. I went to

Guantanamo Bay last year, it is a sprawling facility and costs

apparently $450 million to run last year. So his point is - this could

save money as well. This is all stuff that politicians here have

heard before and there doesn't seem to be enough in it to change

anyone's mind. Let's hear more about what it's like. Tell us about the

terrain, its size, how many staff have they got there? Even though the

number of detainees has come down from nearly 800 no less than 100 now

-- to less than 100 now, the facility has grown massively to

different wings, some for very high security prisoners, who are kept in

isolation. Then there are somewhere they're kept in less isolation, then

a unit that we managed to go to where you can see through two-way

mirrors. The detainees, who've been cleared for release, who have always

been compliant, sitting, watching TV, reading newspapers and having

access to much more facilities than those in the high security wings.

But it is a huge facility with a great deal of staff. You still need

a large amount of security. So even though the number of detainees has

come down, the cost per detainee has gone up. Thank you very much for

that update. I've got various developments with

relation to Europe's migrant crisis I want to bring you. First, that

stistics. It comes -- statistics. It comes from the international

organisation for migration. It says more tan 100,000 people have come

across the Mediterranean to Greece or Italy this year. To give you an

idea, that means around one person every minute is coming in. That is

far, far, faster a rate of migration than we saw last year. Next, I want

to show you these pictures. These are from the border between Greece

and Macedonia. Greece is now saying it's going to have to take some of

these people, Afghan migrants, back to Athens. The reason for that is

that Macedonia is saying Syrians and Iraqi migrants can come through, but

Afghans can't. Those people who are coming through are not likely to

stay in Macedonia. They're looking to head north, through a route we've

shown you many times, through Serbia, Hungary, Austria, it's

likely their chosen final destination will be Germany or

Sweden. Another element of the story is playing out in northern Europe,

because Belgium is now saying the border with France is going to have

temporary border controls introduced. The reason - it's a

direct response to migrants who are beginning to leave the so-called

Jungle camp in Calais in expectation of the French authorities clearing

that camp. Remember, Europe has a free movement zone, the UK is not

part of it. But Belgium and France certainly are. Having even

temporarily closed borders is definitely not part of the plan.

When we're talking about Europe, we turn to Chris Morris. He's based in

our newsroom in Brussels, but he's in London today. He explained the

impact these stories are having on the European Union. The problem is

Calais is close to the Belgian border. If migrants are pushed away

from there, there's a port in Belgium, which has had a problem

with migrants trying to get on lorries and boats heading for the

UK. They shut the border. That's what we're seeing across Europe.

People feel the policy is out of control. They're not sure what to

do. They go safety first and shut borders. The dream, the aspiration

of the European Union is that countries come together and offer a

unified response to the chaling engs of the day. That feels -- challenges

of the day. That feels like a dream at the moment. It's under real

threat, under threat as it never has been before. Don't underestimate the

political will to keep it together at the top from people like Angela

Merkel and Francois Hollande. They don't want to let this thing fall

apart. There will be massive political effort to keep things

together. For example, there have been real disagreements on the

refugee and migration issue between countries in western Europe and

Eastern Europe. One possibility is if those country in -- countries in

Eastern Europe refuse to cooperate with Germany, Germany might say

well, we'll create our mini Schengen with France, Austria, Belgium and

the Netherlands. These are dangerous times for those who believe that

Schengen borders is one of the EU's greatest acheements. Difficult times

as well for people who want to persuade everyone in the UK that a

vote to stay in the European Union is a good idea. The European Union

has looked in better health on other occasions I can think of. Yeah,

there are two different issues on migration. I think there's a danger

that we conflate the two. There are people from countries like Poland

looking for work in the UK, who are internal migrants within the

European Union. They are quite different from Syrians or Iraqis

arriving by boat in Greece or Italy, from countries Then heading further

north. If you see through yot the summer, scenes of chaos in the

Balkans. People queuing up at borders. The sense that no-one's in

control that. Will play a role in the UK campaign. I think people who

are close to the Prime Minister in the UK, people close to EU

institutions in Brussels are very worried that they realise those

images could increase the pull for the leave campaign. Here in the UK,

the referendum has been all consuming. You can't be unaware of

it. That's quite right, this vote could have an effect for a

generation on how this country fits into the world. Is it all consuming

in Brussels or are other issues overshadowing it? Migration,

migration. At the summit a lot of time was spent talking about the UK.

There wasn't an undercurrent of irritation among other leaders, why

spend so much time talking about David Cameron's problems when we

have a full blown crisis across the continent. They have two summits

next month to talk about migration. Only ten days apart. Why two? One of

them is on March 17, but four days before that, there are three

regional, German elections. Angela Merkel fears a battering in those

elections because of the way she's handled the migration crisis. She's

asked for another summit before those elections at which she wants

to produce some real sign of progress. Will they do it? Not by

the looks what have we've seen today. Countries still closing

borders. The restrictions there between Macedonia and Greece and as

people close borders, there is a chain of events takes place as a

bottleneck grows in Greece. There's a real concern that no-one's got a

hold of this. It's not getting any better. Time is running out to solve

it. Many thanks to Chris for passing by.

Now one of the main stories here in the UK, one person has been killed,

three others are missing, after the collapse of part of the Didcot power

station in southern England. This has been declared a major incident.

These images show a section of this building which has collapsed. It's

part of Didcot A, the power station that was decommissioned in 2013 and

which is in the process of being demolished. On the ground, five

crews, ambulances and specialist rescue teams. The emergency services

were called mid-afternoon, after what was thought to have been an

explosion. This video, posted on social media, shows dust rising from

one side of the building and witnesses have described hearing a

loud bang. You can see the power station clearly from where I am,

about 400 yards away. About 4pm, when I heard the explosion and the

loud rumbling, by the time I'd looked out the window, there was a

huge cloud of dust, which came through our village. When that had

cleared, I noticed that half of the old power station, where they used

to keep the generators, that half of that was missing. But the

authorities now say it was not an explosion. Instead, the building

collapsed, killing one person. Five others were taken to hospital and

three are still missing. The Fire Service has been speaking

in the last few minutes. Emergency services were called to Didcot A

power station about 4pm today. There was a partial collapse of a large

building, which is approximately 300 metres long and ten storeys high.

The building was due to be demolished in the coming months.

Oxfordshire Fire Rescue Service has commanded the incident,

supported by South Central ambulance and Thames Valley Police. Sadly, one

person has been confirmed to have died at the incident. Of course, if

we get more on that, we'll bring it to you here on Outside Source. In

business, we will talk about a very big day for Mars. There's the

company, but it makes Mars bars and Snickers bars. There have been a

huge number of recalls around the world, 55 countries affected, all to

do with one bar which may have had pieces of plastic in it. We will

give you all the details. Junior doctors in England have

announced that they're going to hold three more strikes, each taking

place over 48 hours. The British Medical Association also announced

that it will seek a judicial review into the Government's plans to

impose controversial new contracts. Ministers say the contract will

improve services. Downing Street says the announcement of more

strikes was regrettable. These strikes are going to be longer

than the ones before, those still affecting routine and nonurgent

care, not emergencies. Junior doctors will cover those. The BMA

are going to go to court to challenge the legality of the

imposition of the new contract. They and their members seem as resolved

as ever to carry on with this. They say they're very angry with the

decision by the Government to impose the new contract. The Government say

they have a long way -- they've gone a long way to make compromises. They

are frustrated with the BMA's tactics and they have to introduce

the new contract. We're live from the BBC Newsroom. Our lead story:

President Obama has unveiled his latest plan to close the Guantanamo

Bay detention centre. He's appealed to Congress to support it. Based on

Republican reactions, wouldn't bank on that happening.

The main stories from the World Service. First from BBC Hindi. The

water supply from Delhi has been partially restored. Ten million

people were without water because a canal was sabotaged. But it could

still take two weeks to get back to normal.

There are reports of celebrations in the streets of Benghazi in Libya.

It's believed that forces loyal to the internationally recognised

government have made significant progress against Islamist militants.

These pictures from BBC Arabic. Around 160 passengers and crew

escaped down those emergency chutes after engine smoke forced a Japan

airlines to abort. Four passengers were taken to hospital with

injuries. This video is in the most watched list on the BBC News app.

As I mentioned, Mars bars, Snickers bars in 55 countries are being

recalled. This is all because one customer reported finding bits of

plastic in one bar. Mars, the company, is one of the world's

biggest confectionary producers. It's told us today that the bar in

question was made in the Netherlands. We know the initial

recall was made in Germany. As I mentioned, very quickly, it widened

far beyond there. Our business correspondent has been covering this

all day. He's been giving me more details. With this kind of thing,

it's all about damage limitation. Mars presumably doesn't yet know

whether this could be a widespread problem. It says that the plastic

found in one chocolate bar represented a choking risk and

therefore, as a matter of precaution, it's voluntarily issuing

a recall. These products come from a factory in the Netherlands. Most

sold in Germany, France and the Netherlands itself. But some are

sold overseas as well. Even though it's 55 countries, all the bars

recalled come from this one source? Yes, just from one factory. That

means there are limited numbers in other countries. Here in the UK for

example, it only concerns fun-sized Snickers, fun-sized Mars bars, packs

of celebrations that kind of thing. It doesn't include the full-sized

product. In the UK, Mars bars are made in the UK. It's only the

products from this one factory in the Netherlands. In terms of its

business how much of a hit will it take? It has a large number of

factories in the United States alone, I think more than 35. It

makes a vast range of products. It makes things like pet foods. This is

the output of one factory. It's not the only factory that makes these

products, far from it. There is a large number of companies, countries

involved. There will be a lot of chocolate bars, but compared to what

the company actually makes worldwide, a fairly small affair.

And reputation is at stake. A company like Mars cannot afford to

see its reputation damage.ed. Think back to Nestle with Maggie noodles

in India. If you don't issue the recall at the first opportunity,

consumers will take that very, very badly.

Just to reiterate what was said, these are only bars being recalled

because they were made in one factory in the Netherlands.

Someone's watching closely. A tweet to say, perhaps Messi deserves a

chocolate bar, he's just scored. Yes, Barcelona now lead 1-0. Arsenal

hosting, but they're down. We'll keep you up to date on that game.

Time for an update on the battle between the FBI and Apple. We have

been talking about this a lot. The FBI wants Apple to help it access

the data on a phone that belonged to one of the attackers in the San

Bernardino attacks. Bill gates has been commenting on the case. He told

the Financial Times this: He did say later that he doesn't

mean by Tha'it he's backing the FBI -- by that, that he's backing the

FBI. Let's speak to Michelle, live in New York. We talked about it last

night. It's feeling more and more like this is a lightning rod for a

far greater issue in the US. Well, it depends on which side you sit.

Some people are characterising this as a case of security versus

privacy. Others are saying no, this is a case of security versus

surveillance. Bill Gates was trying to be backed, if you like, into one

particular position that he supported the FBI. He came out to

say, no, what I wanted to express was a more nuanced view that there

are instances where authorities should be able to get hold of

information, no different than, for example, in the past where law

enforcement might ask for access to your bank records or to phone

information. He was saying, at the same time, it shouldn't be a blanket

agreement. It's taking a different view that say some of his peers in

Silicon Valley, who've gone for a more blanket support of Apple. You

don't have to look hard to find evidence this is playing out in the

court of public opinion. I am curious to know, once we've heard

everyone having their say on this, that's got nothing to do with it.

How is this thrashed out whether Apple has to cooperate? There is a

legal procedure in place. But there is no doubt that the PR side of this

is very significant. If you look at the Justice Department, Apple's

preference would have been to resolve this issue behind closed

doors, in court, with lawyers. The Justice Department chose - or the

FBI chose to make it a public matter to force Apple's hands in the public

domain. There are signs, at least in the public court of opinion, that

it's working. A survey, we talked about this yesterday, suggested that

most Americans side with the FBI. The latest thing we've heard is that

the Justice Department is trying to get victims, family members to

support them in their efforts. This will continue to play out alongside

the legal proceedings, at the same time supporters of Apple will

protest outside some of their stores in the United States and in other

parts of the world, certainly here if New York, I think that is

scheduled to happen in an hour from now. Amazing how this story is Greg

and growing and the -- growing and growing. Thank you, Michelle.

Let's look at the business side of the European Union referendum, the

EU referendum that's going to be held here in the UK, specifically in

this report, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. Northern

Ireland is the only part of the UK that has a land border with the

eurozone. That's because the Republic is a member of the European

Union but it uses the euro as its currency as well. As you can

imagine, people on both sides of the border are watching this debate very

closely. Through this land there is a border,

which marks where the UK ends and the Republic of Ireland begins. Not

that you'd know it. Most people in this area are used to travelling

across the invisible line marked somewhere in this ground to work,

shop and socialise. There are advantages to living at the edge of

two states - there's often a choice of paying in pounds or euros and

across the border, you might find a bargain. If it's petrol, then at the

moment it's better to go to the south. Exchange to euros and go to

the south. A definite difference doesn't worry some companies in

Northern Ireland who feel the UK is too wrapped up with Europe. They

exported 90 billion more to us than we actually bought from them last

year. Are they actually going to stop that? All the fear is complete

nonsense. We need to be free to trade with the rest of the world.

Yet companies like Ovo are used to operating both sides of the border.

The hotel there is in the south of Ireland. We're in the north. At its

offices, which are in the north an the south, it develops and

manufactures products that allow flat-pack furniture to simply snap

together. It's already considering its options, should the UK not stick

with Europe. For us, if the UK were to pull out, we would definitely

consider moving all our business into the south. Why? We do fear that

it will make life awkward and it would make more sense for us to move

the entire company into a European company. There are some in Ireland

thinking of the possible opportunities offered by the UK's

exit to strengthen trading links across these islands. We've a lot

more in common with the UK than we have - what do we have in common

with Croatia, you know, Lithuania, Germany? On both sides of this

referendum debate, there is a reluctance to make any change to the

open roads and open border shared by these nearest of neighbours.

Thanks, Chris for that. I'll speak to you in a couple of minutes.

We'll update you on the European weather in a couple of minutes.

First, I want to take you across the world to show you the latest on

tropical cyclone Winston, which as I'm sure you've seen from the news