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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Turkey and the EU say they have a plan to stop migration

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But already there is criticism and it's stinging.

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The UN says it may break international law.

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We'll be live in Brussels and Turkey shortly.

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We'll have the latest on Maria Sharapova.

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Sponsors have been reacting to her failed drugs test.

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A number of stabbing attacks in Israel during the visit of the US

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vice-president. This is Detroit Michigan, one of the

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states voting in the latest Republican and democratic primaries.

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We will hear specifically why Donald Trump is picking up support in this

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city. For International Women's Day, we

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have a report from women in Saudi Arabia, who have been sharing their

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day-to-day lives with us. We have a plan from the EU -

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Turkey to respond to Here it is, on the European

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Council's website. One of main points is that for every

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Syrian migrant that arrives in Greece from Turkey

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and is returned back there, a Syrian currently in Turkey will be

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resettled in the EU. Before we get ahead of ourselves,

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already the UN has objected. "An agreement that

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would be tantamount to a blanket return of any foreigners to a third

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country and is not consistent "EU and Turkish leaders

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have sunk to a new low, effectively horse trading away

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the rights and dignity of some of the world's most

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vulnerable people." Needless to say, the EU

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doesn't see it that way. The flow of migrants passing from

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toweringy to Greece -- from Turkey to Greece, remains too high and

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needs to be brought down significantly. The Prime Minister

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confirmed Turkey's commitment to accept the rapid return of all

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migrants coming from Turkey to Greece that are not in need of

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international protection. When you first heard the details of this, if

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you're like me, you're thinking how will the system work.

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Our correspondent, Damian Grammaticas joins me now.

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I think what it does, what it attempts to do, this idea, is to

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address the very central problem that the EU finds, which is this

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large number of people, taking to boats, landing in Greece from Turkey

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and then making their way over land. What we've seen already are those

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border closures and that has put pressure on the situation and it's

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focussed minds, because we now see this situation in Greece with the

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refugees and migrants who are building up there. So what this

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addresses is first of all, the need that Europe feels, European nations

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feel, to protect their external borders. So this deal involves this

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plan to return anyone coming across the water back to Turkey. And the

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second thing is crucial, that cooperation with Turkey. Because

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Turkey itself is housing two million-plus Syrian refugees and the

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reason people are getting up and moving is that the conditions there

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are not acceptable for them. After years and years of living there.

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This tries to address two things, protecting Europe's borders but

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dealing with the refugee pressures in Turkey and therefore, giving

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Turkey the quid pro quo of shifting people who are deemed worthy of

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refugee status into the EU. Those people who would be moved into the

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EU, where will they go? Last time I looked, the EU didn't seem able to

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agree on who should take how many people. This is just one of the very

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many questions that hang over this whole plan. Because you're

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absolutely right. The EU has talked about taking 20,000 Syrians from

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Turkey, that plan hasn't got off the ground yet. The EU has talked about

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moving 60,000 people out of Greece to other parts of the EU. That plan

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has only resulted in a few hundred being moved. So the question would

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be - where would these people go? The answer would really have to be

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to a coalition of willing countries. Within that we might see Germany,

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the Netherlands. But we certainly would not see Hungary and probably

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eastern European states. Hungary made very clear if there was any

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plan to make this scheme compulsory or this idea of shifting refugees

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into the EU compulsory, it would seek to veto it or block it, if it

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could. What that leaves is a result untrischeme. That's what we have --

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voluntary scheme. That's not working already. This is interesting from

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Mark Lowen saying he's been speaking to one man, Mohammed from Aleppo in

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Syria, saying, regardless of what the EU is planning, he's going to

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try over and over again to go to Greece. There are many questions

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about the way this plan will be effectively implemented.

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It's not just the UN and Amnesty International who don't

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Have a listen to this clip - it's a German Socialist Party MP.

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Ankara is, of course, great. There is no harsh criticism against Ankara

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with view of the war against the Kurdish people population, no

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mention of the assault against the newspaper there. If you are a decent

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politician and believing in human rights, you have to, what is

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happening in the Kurdish area. It is awful. Massive human rights

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violations. Everybody knows that. We've heard from the EU side of

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things. Let's look at Turkey and why it's so keen on this plan. I

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enlisted the help of our correspondent from BBC Turkish.

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Turkey thinks it has played its cards really well this time. It's

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almost got what it asked for, all of them. Turkey wanted visa-free travel

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for Turkish citizens who wanted to travel to EU countries and

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scheduling of that is set to be as early as June, which was initially

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thought to be, thought to start in November, for instance. Turkey also

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wanted speeding up of the EU negotiation, EU accession

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negotiations, which was for a very long time stalled. Actually, for a

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decade, this was a breakthrough. Turkey is holding summits with the

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European Union countries every now and then. Turkey is considered a

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very important partner etc. So, that will especially be seen as a

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breakthrough. Turkey actually, it's offering to allow in, to take back

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one Syrian in return for sending a south-eastern from the refugee cam

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-- Syrian from the refugee camps. I have spoken to several migration

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experts in Turkey. They have said they really have serious concerns

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about how easy it will be to implement this deal, because Turkey

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already acome dates over -- acome dates over 2. 7 million refugees.

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Hundreds of thousands of them are not registered. There's the side of

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international law. The UNHCR actually is concerned about whether

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this deal will violate international law and I have spoken to ex-Turkey

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head of UNHCR here in Turkey and he said it could be in violation of

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international law, because Turkey does not grant Syrians refugee

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status at the moment. And what's going to happen to these people if

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they're sent back to Turkey, how will they be resettled in Europe,

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they ask. Lots of background on the migrant crisis in Europe available

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from the BBC online. That's one story dominating our attentions

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today. This is the second one. Nike, Porsche Tag Heuer have

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responded to Maria Sharapova Nike says its suspending

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its relationship with her. Tag Heuer - that it

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won't seek a new deal. Another sponsor, Danone,

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which owns the Evian mineral water brand, simply says it's

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following the investigation closely. And it's these kind of deals that

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have made Sharapova the highest earning female athlete

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of the last ten years. On the court Maria Sharapova's

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nemesis has been Serena Williams. She was asked about this story. To

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be perfectly honest, I think in sport and in life, there's always a

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double standard. Always. I think that's something that no-one is -

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everyone knows, whether it's a race thing or a sex thing. There's always

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been a double standard and difference. However, this is a

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different thing. I think as Maria said, she's ready to take full

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responsibility. I think that showed a lot of courage and a lot of heart.

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I think she's always showed courage and heart in everything that she's

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done. This is no different. We only have one side of the story

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at the moment, it's interesting there's been no sortage of immediate

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support for Maria Sharapova. Her coach from when she was much younger

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saying, "I don't think that Maria Sharapova would continue doing

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something, especially being in the limelight. If there was something

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she knew about." And She says, "Hold your horses on this.

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I don't have all the facts. That of course applies to all of us. One of

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the key questions that is driving some of the scepticism that we've

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seen in response to Sharapova's statement is how you cannot know

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exactly what you're taking, given the size of the team that Maria

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Sharapova would have working with her. This is one view on that issue.

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Maria Sharapova, like all high-profile athletes that have an

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entourage of advisors around her, she will be able to rely on doctors,

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coaches, nutritionists to provide her with advice. So it's

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inconceivable that somebody wasn't monitoring what substances WADA was

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looking at, because it was announced, I think, about 12 months

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ago, that WADA was investigating this particular substance. It's

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similar in some ways to other blood-boosting drugs. What this drug

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does is to speed the flow of blood around the body. And the speed at

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which the blood goes into the muscle helps with endurance sports. So for

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a sport like tennis, it would be a very useful drug. We can see

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paralegals between it and the -- par alells between the sorts of drugs

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that cyclists have taken in the past. We've learned four other

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Russian sportsmen and women have failed tests for this same drug.

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Olympic speed skating champion, Evgeny Elistratov, figure skater

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Ekaterina Bobrova, volleyball player Alexandr Markin,

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All failing a test. Why might an athlete take this drug? We heard

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some of the explanations in that clip. The first could be medical.

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It's known to be used to treat diabetes and heart-related diseases.

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Much more so in certain countries like Russia, than others. Maria

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Sharapova's lawyer says various medical issues caused her doctor to

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suggest this medication. The other reason is that it can effect the

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ability to increase oxygen movement to muscles and that can have a

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positive effect on stamina and endurance. As you might imagine,

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BBC's tennis correspondent Russell Fuller, in California, has been

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talking about nothing else all day. I got hold of him earlier.

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There isn't a huge amount of shock, as I think some of the statements

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that you've read out do illustrate. The one thing that we need to wait

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to see is exactly how long this process begins, how long this

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process takes, rather. I would imagine that there would be an

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independent hearing up and running, organised by the international

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tennis federation for some time in April, after both sides have got

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their legal arguments in position. They normally issue a verdict a

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couple of weeks after that. The maximum ban could be four years. If

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they decide it was unintentional, the starting point is two years. If

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they find no significant fault attached to the athlete, the ban may

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only be one year. Whatever happens there, it's almost certain that

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Sharapova's legal team will take that verdict to the court of

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arbitration for sport. In the last couple of years, they have a history

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of not completely overturning verdicts within tennis, but

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certainly reducing the length of the ban. That's happened to Cilic and

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Troitsky. I know today is a big PR push by tennis generally to get the

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world talking about the sport. Clearly, this story isn't

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necessarily helping, along with the problems around alleged spot-fixing

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a couple of months ago, these have been difficult times for tennis.

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It's awful timing for the sport. The BBC Buzzfeed investigation into

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allegations of match-fixing was released just an hour before the

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Australian Open began. That completely overshadowed the first

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week of the event. It's thrown up major issues for the sport, which

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are now being investigated by an independent report. That panel will

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take all of 2016 to come up with their findings. Now we have one of

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the most high-profile sporting stars on the planet, who happens to be a

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tennis player admitting that she has tested positive for a drug. When you

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look at the women's game, you have Maria Sharapova and Serena Williams.

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They are the two standout names. It is a huge blow. Positive that it's

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out in the open, there was no suggestion that it was going to be

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covered up, that the process, the legal action taken against Maria

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Sharapova is under way. I have to say I'm uncomfortable with some of

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the statements that various governing bodies have made since

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Sharapova made her statement. The chief executive of the WTA Tour has

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been talking about Sharapova's professionalism and how she's a

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woman of great integrity. And tennis Australia, which is where Sharapova

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returned that positive test at the Australian Open after her quarter

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final with Serena Williams in January and pointing out that she's

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a great role model. I'm not denying any of that, but we need to let the

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legal proceedings happen and for justice to take its course. If

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you've been on the BBC website today you'll have seen our extensive

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coverage of international women's day. As part of that, I'll play this

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report that's been collected by one colleague who's been speaking to

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women in Saudi Arabia about the challenges in their lives.

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Mark caverny found -- Carney found himselves accused of taking sides

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today. He said leaving the EU would affect Britain's financial stability

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in the short-term. Let's listen to what he had to say.

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In the long-term, I don't think there can be a conclusive answer to

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that. There are ways of organising ourselves that would deliver

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financial stability. There's certainly ways of organising

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ourselves. I would not advocate any change to the remit or the tools of

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the Bank of England in order to deliver monetary stability. The

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judgment would have to be in that regard, financial stability relative

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to competitiveness and all the other aspects of the relationship and

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balance. In the shorter term, the transition could bring some

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challenges to financial stability. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. The UN has questioned the legality

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of a proposed plan by the EU and Turkey to end

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migration into Europe. We bring you the main stories from

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BBC World Service as well. It's two years since flight MH370

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disappeared en route Authorities say they are still

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confident that they BBC Chinese are

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following that story. BBC Persian reports that Iran has

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test-fired a number of ballistic missiles, despite pressure

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from the US to halt such tests. And this is the moment that Adele

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invited two men onto stage to sing. They'd recently posted a video

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covering several of her songs - Let's start with the big story in

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Brazil today. This is the owner of the biggest construction

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conglomerate in Latin America. He's been sentenced to 19 years in

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prison. This is the latest result of a massive anticorruption drive

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called operation car wash. Our correspondent is in London today,

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rather than Sao Paulo, and she's helped us out with this story. The

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court sentenced that he paid over $30 million to prize to officials in

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exchange for contracts with Brazil's oil state company. He's the sixth

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executive sentenced to praise anyone the corruption in the operation,

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which started in 2014. He's also the most important one. Before the

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scandal, his company had over 180,000 employees in 21 countries.

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He was considered the face of Brazil's economic boom in the past

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few years. Now so far, officials and executives from Brazil's top

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construction companies have been the main source of information to the

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police in this case. They have agreed to reveal what they know in

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exchange for sentence reductions. There is an expectation that this

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company might dot same. His revelations could implicate some of

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Brazil's main politicians and turn this case into a bigger

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investigation. Earlier this week, Brazil's former president was

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detained for questioning for his involvement with those construction

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companies. This caused clashes between dozens of his supporters and

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detractors in Sao Paulo. This is just how controversial this

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investigation has become. She's not here for much longer, but

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she'll be back on the programme from Sao Paulo I'm sure. It's

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International Women's Day today. Most times on Outside Source around

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this point in the show, we speak about the big business stories of

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the day. Let's bring in Michelle to talk about gender balance on Wall

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Street. My guess is, it's not great. I was on the floor of the New York

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Stock Exchange a few hours ago, if you look around the trading floor,

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it is still dominated by men. There was a big group of women there this

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morning. Women in ETFs, exchange traded funds, they were there to

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ring the opening bell in honour of International Women's Day. But it's

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fair to say that if you look at the financial industry generally around

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the world, there are still far too few women employed in the business.

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In fact, mutual funds, the number of women that manage mutual fund assets

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adds up to 2%, so 98% of mutual funds' assets are managed by men.

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There are lots of jobs where it's more likely for a man or woman to be

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doing it, how do we understand such a huge imbalance in the financial

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sector? Well, interestingly, there's been a number of studies done,

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looking at the behavioural, cognitive differences, at least when

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it comes to trading, between men and women. There's been some interesting

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findings. One from the University of Leicester, published just today,

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they've released the findings, talking about the fact that if you

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look at men they tend to take bigger risks venlt that can lead to big --

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risks. That can lead to bigger profits. But it can lead to bigger

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crashes. Women didn't necessarily tend to make as much money as the

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men in terms of profits for the firms they work for, but they also

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didn't tend to lose as much, didn't tend to, their behaviour didn't lead

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to the excessive risk taking that might result in a huge crash. So

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that was part of the argument, if you like, that you hear some people

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talk about in terms of seeing more gender equality at least in the

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financial industry. Very interesting. Thank you for talking

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to us about that. Michelle in New York. Next a report about

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(Inaudible) with a BBC journalist. Here's that report.

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When it comes to Saudi women, well most of the world (inaudible)

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unequal and can't even drive. But unequal and can't even drive. But

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many Saudi women say (Inaudible) So we've been asking Audi women

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themselves. Are women in the Kingdom really that oppressed? As a Saudi

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woman, I never felt oppressed in any means. We have in our Parliament

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more than 30 women. She's referring to the recent and long awaited move

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to allow women the right to vote and take part in Parliamentary

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elections. So do they have a point? More women in Saudi Arabia graduate

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from university than men. Contrary to popular belief, women in Saudi

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Arabia can work and in fact, have found prominence in different

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fields. And when it comes to social media,

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well, let's just say they're not keeping it quiet.

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So women in Saudi Arabia can do many things and they do. But what often

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limits them is the fact that they need a male guardian to do, well,

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basically anything. My name is Shahd. I'm 20 years old

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and I grew up with a violent father. Five years ago, my mother went to

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court asking for divorce. She fought to keep us with her. But under the

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male guardianship law, my father won our custody. All my mother had

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wanted was to keep us safe and divorce her abusive husband. But the

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law gave my mother no justice. Clearly, when it comes to rights,

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there's still many battles to fight. However, many women in Saudi Arabia

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say that labelling them as victims only makes those battles harder to

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fight. What an interesting report there. If

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you want to see it again or share it with someone via Facebook or

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Saudi Arabia women. -- Saudi women. That's all for the first part of

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Outside Source. I'm back in a couple of minutes.

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you're going to be travelling into the week ahead is on the way

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you're going to be travelling into the Middle East, or the Gulf states,

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there could be disruption to flights in

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