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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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And welcome to the Barn pub in Tunbridge Wells in Kent in the

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south-east of England. We are here as the last day of campaigning comes

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to an end, and there has been no letup.

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Go out and vote Remain for a bigger, better Britain inside it

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The ideal position for us is to take back control tomorrow of huge

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amounts of money so we can spend it on our priorities, take back control

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of our immigration system, take back control fundamentally

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of our democracy, that is what this is all about.

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This campaign has revealed so many dimensions on the political

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landscape in the UK. We will also hear from Margate, looking at the

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generational divide on whether to stay or leave the European Union.

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Unless you are in Tunbridge Wells and can actually come down to the

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Barn, I can't get you a drink, I'm afraid. But we can get you some

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answers. If I can't get you answers, we have got Chris Mason live at

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Westminster. Well, this building used to be an

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Elizabethan barn, it dates back over 400 years. It is fair to say that

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this island has been wrestling with its relationship with its European

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partners for that long. And there is no doubting that the vote taken

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tomorrow in the UK is seen as being historic whichever way it goes. It

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will shape the relationship between the United Kingdom and the rest of

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Europe for years to come. Now if we bring up the map I can highlight

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where I am talking to you from. Today I'm in Tunbridge Wells -

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in Kent - about an hour A lot of people live here and

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commute north to London. I've been in Manchester,

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Edinburgh and London - speaking to people and getting

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a sense of the direction Now I'm here for a different view -

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how will people vote in the countryside, towns, villages.

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We can draw on some of the early polling figures.

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As you watching, you can use our hashtag. All of your comments will

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come straight through to me. Let's bring you up-to-date with some of

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the statements. We didn't get anything that deal with February.

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There was no real change to border arrangements or any of the that

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Brattle sodden eyes Brussels runs our lives. Our entire fisheries are

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controlled by Brussels -- that Brussels runs our lives. You have an

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Eu Commission deciding how fish docks of UK fish are going to be

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divided up. If we take back control, it is going to be a big, big moment

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for democracy in this country and around Europe. One word brings it

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all into one, together. Frankly, if we want a bigger economy and more

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jobs, we are better if we do it together. If we want to fight

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climate change, we are better if we do it together. If we want to win

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against the terrorists and keep communities safe, we are better if

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we do it together. Please do everything you have got in these

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last hours to make sure that people go out and vote tomorrow. Go out and

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vote Remain. Go out and vote Remain for a bigger and better Britain

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inside a reformed European Union. In the Spin Room next door, I was

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talking to Chris Mason, one of our top, but my correspondence in

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Westminster. Chris, we have reached the end of what feels like a long

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road. I don't think anybody can claim we haven't heard the

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arguments. It looks like you are a fantastic bar that. Westminster and

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the country at large reflects on what is a huge day for the UK

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tomorrow. Use the second ago that it is as direct. That is an overused

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word in journalism, but it is accurate about this referendum. It

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is only the third time in the UK boss Mike history that there has

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been a full nationwide referendum on a single question. The UK has had a

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pretty awkward relationship with the EU ever since signing up in the

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1970s. People were asked for their say back in 1975, but never have

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been since. You would have to be 59 or older to have had a vote last

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time this question was put. As you say, there have been a few -- huge

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amount of arguments, contention and colour. Lots of arguments put

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forward and demolished by the other side, and the same on the other side

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as well. After all that noise, the power tomorrow is in the hands of

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the British people. Questions already coming in, Chris. Emma will

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I do whilst you, there are claims from the Remain camp that if we

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leave it will have a huge impact on the UK's economy. Emma would like to

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whilst you how soon the negative impact will kick in? Is is fair to

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say that the vast majority of the columnists but not all of the view

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that the UK economy would take a hit of people here right to vote to come

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out of the European Union. And there are some who say that the stock

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market for instance could take a hit as soon as Friday morning, another

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words, as soon as the result is declared. Where people or a little

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bit more fuzzy in their predictions about the future, because that is

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what they are, guesses about the future, is what the prospects would

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be in the medium-term for the British economy if we were to leave,

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not least because some of the predictions might point towards a

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lower rate of economic growth in the future if one were to leave or the

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UK was to leave, but still the economy being bigger than it is now.

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And plenty of others say, look, this very same economists were arguing

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only a decade or so ago that the UK would sign up to the European single

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currency, the euro, and in the view of the outcome pain, the Leave

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campaign, they say, they were wrong then so maybe they were wrong now --

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be out campaign. Thank you, Chris. Remember, if you have got any

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questions we can still ask them now. We won't be able to whilst them

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tomorrow on the day that voting takes place. You can use the hashtag

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and get in touch. You can hear the noise here in the pub. The locals

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were telling me it is singles night. This is an extra dimension whether

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to stay or remain. Let's get into this issue I mentioned a couple of

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minutes ago. The difference between the attitudes in cities and in the

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countryside. Here is a graphic which has been released by the polling

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organisation YouGov. The green areas are areas where people on the whole

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express positive views towards Europe. Read areas are where Euro

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scepticism is more prevalent -- red. As you can see, the big cities are

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green but some of the other areas, in particular rural areas, and the

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area where I am standing at the moment, Tunbridge Wells in Kent,

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red. It is interesting to see that the graphical differences. We will

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get into the generational differences little bit later.

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Richard Whitman is from an organisation called UK in a changing

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Europe. Europe is going to change whichever way this photos, waited?

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Absolutely, it will not stay still. What people are really voting for is

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not just we have got now but what the European Union might be in the

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future. When you look at the discussions here in this part of the

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UK, what are people's primary concerns do you think? I think they

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are really concerned about the issue of immigration. We are a border

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county, we have the border down in Dover. But also the issue of the

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economy. These are the two issues dominating these campaign and also

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dominating Europe. Is you will want is to whilst you, why is free

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movement such a crucial commitment to the European Union and why does

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it tend to get rolled up in trade deals -- a view at once to ask you.

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It is one of the founding principles of the EU. When it was first in

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visit as a guiding idea, it wasn't bored about in terms of the numbers

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of people who moved across the border. So while it wasn't thought

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about. The European Union isn't really fit for the way in which we

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see people moving across borders. It has been interesting hearing people

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at the top saying what they have been saying. Has David Cameron

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switched the debate? The debate was already there, but he has

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jump-started it. The kind of issues he has put on the table are issues

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that public across Europe are concerned about. If the UK decides

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to is there it is going to be knocking up the door. I'm sure a lot

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more questions will be coming in. Sean wants to whilst you, what

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happens to EU immigrants -- Sean wants to ask you, what happens to

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European immigrants who are here at the moment? It is a very big issue

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not just the Lee you in nationals who are here but also the UK

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nationals who are in other member states. Thank you, Richard. We will

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be talking to you through the hour. Jean-Luc, how are you doing? You are

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the son of the landlord. People like talking about football and

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relationships when they come to the pub. Do they like talking about the

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European Union? More and more as it has gone on. Today people are

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shouting in here. It has become a lot more... It has captured people's

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imaginations? Definitely. Do you think most people vote? Definitely,

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if they have got a vote, they have two. It got heated earlier, did use

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death in? -- did you step in. No. We are at the Barn, you are very

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welcome to come down. We are concentrating on Tunbridge Wells

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while we are broadcasting live here. I want to tell you about another

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town in Kent, the Southeast of England, Margate.

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I think it is that a say in times past it had a reputation for being a

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town of older people with an ageing population. That has been changing,

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a lot of younger people have moved here in recent years. Howard Johnson

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has discovered some significant generational differences in

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attitudes towards whether to remain or to leave.

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And I've drawn some faceless bureaucrats

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The bigger the organisation and the further away it is that

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makes our laws means that they won't be specific

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to us and they won't be the best laws for us.

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I want to vote to Remain, because like these boats,

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I want to believe in travel and being European.

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If we don't vote Remain, it will be a Little England

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I'm voting to Leave, because Brussels dictates

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what our farmers and fishing industry can and can't produce,

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and then produce stuff and sell it back to us.

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I'm going to vote to Remain in, because I think if we leave it

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And I've drawn a picture of Great Britain with a sad face,

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because that's what I'm trying to get across, basically,

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I vote to Remain, because the European idea is important.

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But Brussels has become a gravy train.

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The accountability needs to be improved.

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My family came to Britain in the 1880s.

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Welcome back to the Barn in Tunbridge Wells. I nipped outside to

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give you an idea, we will not be stepping outside that much, we were

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bathed in sunshine a few moments before but then the Thunder arrived.

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We had this problem in Johannesburg. We came outside because it is a

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beautiful garden. In a few minutes' time, we are going to be live in New

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York to look at how stock markets and currency traders all around the

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world may react, and whether it is Leave war Remain on Friday morning.

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Members of the neo-Nazi resistance movement stormed the World Trade

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Center and with pistols and shotguns. According to international

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law, we have a rightful claim. I take pride in the words, I am a

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bowling! I told him to plead guilty, that was

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the end of it. The medical research Council are degrading these, lung

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cancer is mainly due to smoking tobacco. Checkpoint Charlie has

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stood as Allied determination to defend the city.

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Welcome back to Outside Source. In the last few weeks we have been

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alive and Cologne, Paris, and Manchester. Last night for the BBC's

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great debate on the EU referendum in the UK. Today we are here in a warm

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and wet evening in Tunbridge Wells, in the south-east of the UK. And of

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course the lead story on BBC News is that tomorrow millions and millions

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of voters will take part in a referendum here in the

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UK on whether to stay in the European Union. The decisions of

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voters take will have ramifications for years. Let's look at some of the

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other main stories we or covering on BBC News.

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Russia's president, Vladimir Putin, has accused the West

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of failing to work with Russia to fight international terrorism.

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He said that on the contrary, Nato was increasing what he called

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'aggressive actions' near Russia's borders.

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Thousands of people have gathered in London and other cities around the

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world to commemorate the Labour MP Jo Cox on what would have been her

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42nd birthday. She was killed in her constituency last week. And this is

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a video that thousands and thousands of you have been looking at.

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A huge snake that's lived in the roof of an Australian home

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for ten years has tried to upgrade to the master bedroom.

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Trina Hibberd woke up on Monday to find this five-metre-long python

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named Monty making himself comfortable in her bedroom.

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If you watch the video, she is unbelievably calm throughout, very

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impressive. He was eventually removed

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by a snake-catcher. It is a happy end to the story. If

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the last couple of weeks are anything to go by we can be

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reasonably certain that on Friday stock markets around the world and

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the currency traders around the world will react one way or another

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to the result of this referendum. Christine Lagarde, head of the

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International Monetary Fund, has also waited only economic

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consequences of this boat. She said, we believe that a vote by the...

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Let's bring in Sameer Hussain, our Business Correspondent in New York.

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The Mirror, is it a certainty that whichever way the vote goes, there

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will be an impact? Absolutely. And the reason for that is there is just

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this uncertainty. And markets, as you and I both know, they don't like

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any sort of surprises or uncertainty or anything that could destabilise

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it. So the fact that we don't know what the result could be, well, that

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has US market is really quite jittery. We heard from the head of

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the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, Janet Yellen, yesterday.

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She reiterated similar comments to what we heard from Christine

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Lagarde, saying that this will not likely result in a recession. But

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she said we are not really sure what could happen, because it is still a

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really big unknown. But there could certainly be some repercussions on

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US financial markets. Thank you, some era. I'm curious to whilst you

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how this is being followed in the US. When I was impressed last week,

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to be honest, there were lots of things that people in France or

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worried about, a possible Brexit didn't seem high up on that list.

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What about people in the US? I think that is correct. When you talk about

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the wider business community here in the US, Brexit isn't more than a one

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or two line. But if you are talking about people on the floor of the New

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York Stock Exchange, where I spent a big part of my day, that is

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certainly a big topic of conversation, wondering what the

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result will be, and wondering what that means for financial markets.

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Thank you. Welcome back to Tunbridge Wells, we are in the Barn pub. I

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stepped outside because it was getting pretty lively inside. We

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will go back in a minute to talk to more people. I have three people

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here to talk with us. Lots of questions come again, and we will

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come to you in a moment. I am Roz Aiken. What is your name? Tim. I'm

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Olly. Lots of people have been watching the football in here, but

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Ayew also following the referendum? I certainly will be voting, it is

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very important. I will be voting Remain. I can't actually vote

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because I am French. If I could, I would vote to go out. You would vote

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for the UK to leave the EU? Yes, definitely. I think sovereignty is

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the most important thing that this country could have. When you are

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part of the EU, that is something you are missing. The Prime Minister

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earlier said that we are better together and better off working with

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countries like France and Germany and Spain and many others. The Prime

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Minister wants you to stay within the EU, that is what you and I don't

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really understand why he is not proud of this democracy that you

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have got in the UK, it is one of the best in Europe and you should try to

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make it last, really. How do you feel when you hear that? I think

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that idea of sovereignty is a bit misplaced. We are part of the EU,

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one of the main three players in the EU along with France and Germany.

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Because we are a main player, we extend our sovereignty into the EU,

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that is how we exert influence into the world. If we retreat back from

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the EU, we are going to a small island in a very big world with very

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powerful players, and we really need to is they within the EU to be part

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of that. The point you just made shows that it is not about

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sovereignty, you said to one of the three main players, but what about

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the other countries? It should be about everyone's sovereignty. I also

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believe that it is not true. It is also about opening up yourself to

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the rest of the world, and there are a lot of trading parties actually

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out there that are willing to trade with the UK. But we live right next

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to Europe, which is a huge trading block, one of the most successful

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trading blocs that has ever been created and one of the advanced, 40%

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of our trade goes to Europe. Why would we cut ourselves out of that?

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We would have no say on how that trade is conducted. I will politely

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request that I can jump in! I want to bring in our expert across the

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our who has got I hope the answers of quite a few of the questions that

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you are sending in using the hashtag. If we leave the EU, while

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we all get new passports? I don't think we will. In fact, the

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passports look very similar because they are all now to a standard

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international design, machine readable. They changed the front

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page and possibly the colour, but they look and feel pretty much the

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same. Joel asks, how us during is the assertion by the head of German

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industry and trade that trade would continue without tariffs? That was

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in an interview with BBC World Service radio, this man is certainly

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very credible. Both the messages boost either side of this campaign,

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he said there would be damage to the British economy if there was a

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Brexit, but he also said that the idea that if the UK left the EU,

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Germany would put up tariffs, that seems very unlikely. Travel wants to

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asks, if we leave, while multinationals like Google and

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Starbucks still be able to use tax loopholes in other European

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countries? A range that taxes across Europe might be a fairer way of

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putting it on tax loopholes? Multinationals will still operate in

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the UK and EU markets and they will still try and find ways to reduce

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their tax liability. The EU has got very interested in clamping down on

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that kind of thing. If we stay in I think it is going to be something

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that the UK will content with. For those of you watching, lots of

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people have been wondering how is this going to play out tomorrow? Let

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me tell you, at 10pm polls will close, and the counting will begin

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in earnest. There are 382 local centres, they will feed their

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results into 12 regional centres, they will pass their results onto

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the chief accounting in Manchester. When everyone in Manchester is set,

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they will announce the official result. We are expecting that to be

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around 7am on Friday morning. But, this is crucial, there will be no

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exit poll but they will announce the results one by one as the local

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centres finish. We will have a role in total, we are expected to have a

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clearer idea of who is doing well by a bout to a 3am. -- by about two A.

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Oliver says, while a Brexit encourage other EU countries to push

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for referendums? I think this is something that other EU countries

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are worried about. While it trigger popular opposition to the EU, and

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also see that getting electoral support and also perhaps seeking

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exit from the EU. Holly wants to say, if the UK votes Leave on the

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23rd of June, she is calling it Independence Day, the phrase that

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Boris Johnson used last night, will it be an annual bank holiday?! I

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think that might be getting ahead of ourselves. We will get the result

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in, but there are no plans to make June the 23rd a bank holiday. Let's

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come back to our French guess. Do you think in France they would want

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a referendum? Probably, they should get it anyway. This is a country of

:24:56.:25:00.

equality, any country in Europe should have Thursday about the EU,

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because, you know, that is what democracy is about -- that say. How

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can 28 countries try to get an agreement ever be an official way of

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organising yourself -- and efficient way? What is the alternative, doing

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that 28 times bilaterally and more? That is why the EU was set up, to

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lead to more efficient decision-making but not the most

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efficient decision-making. Thanks to all three of you. We just about kept

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dry. I will head inside now. In a few minutes' time we will sit down

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at the table with a big group of people to hear how they are

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discussing the proposed microbes. Do remember, especially if you are

:25:46.:25:51.

voting in tomorrow's referendum, the BBC's reality check website runs

:25:52.:25:55.

through each of the issues with the arguments and facts in between.

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Good evening. It is that time of the evening to take a look at the

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weather elsewhere around the world. Starting in the USA, where the heat

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that we have seen through the weekend has continued into this week

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and is set to continue. Especially across California, Arizona and Utah

:26:24.:26:27.

but spreading at times into some central states. The heat remains

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with us for Las Vegas, Phoenix, getting over 100 of degrees

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Fahrenheit here. Storms are going to be quite widespread, moving from the

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midwest and the great Lakes towards the mid-Atlantic states during

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Thursday. Likely to cause disruption with flash flooding, hail and

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tornado risk. Wet weather in Central America is spreading into the north

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of South America. We will see showers around the River plate where

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it is quite chilly, temperatures only reaching 12 in one as Aries.

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Quite chilly nights to come here. In India you may have heard about the

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ride rather large number of deaths we have had in lightning strikes.

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Lightning strikes do usually Kel quite a number of people because

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they are so concentrated between June and September and they come en

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masse. Flash flooding, mudslides and lightning strikes or iris. We could

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have something nasty building in the Bay of Bengal in the coming few days

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and spreading into northern and eastern states. More rain to come

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across New Zealand and indeed across south-eastern parts of Australia. We

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have showers further north as well, a wintry element of these over the

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Alps. Stormy weather for a time across New Zealand. Let's head

:27:50.:27:52.

north. We have a slow-moving front which is now starting to me and a

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further north around the Shanghai region. -- starting to meander. More

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rain is forecast and strong winds across parts of the South and west

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of Japan. The earthquake hit zone. It has been causing some problems

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with flash flooding and mudslides. Another pulse comes across through

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the weekend. We are watching that area. Over Europe there is a nasty

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area of low pressure from North Africa to the Mediterranean. Storms

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across southern Italy and the low countries. Those storms are nudging

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their way northwards, combined with lightning. We have the heat with us

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further south and east. It is the contrast between the high

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temperatures and fresh air which is sparking big storms around. Nowhere

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is exempt, as you can see. The risk of wildfire is pretty high. Back

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home we do have an ample warning in force for them and storms as we go

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through Wednesday night and into Thursday. It is a nice day further

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north and west. John Hammond will have more for using. Bye-bye.

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World back to Outside Souce. Live from the Barn in Tunbridge Wells.

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Our final stop touring the UK and Europe covering the referendum on

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European union membership. Even though we are in the final day of

:30:27.:30:29.

campaigning, neither side has let up. Go out and vote Remain for a

:30:30.:30:36.

bigger and better written inside a reformed European union. The ideal

:30:37.:30:40.

position is to take back control tomorrow off huge amounts of money

:30:41.:30:45.

to spend it on our priorities. Take back control of our immigration

:30:46.:30:49.

system, fundamentally about Christie, that is what it is about.

:30:50.:30:54.

This vote matters beyond the UK's borders. In particular Brussels,

:30:55.:30:59.

where the people at the top of the European Union are paying key

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attention. We have a report on how they are monitoring the situation.

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We will go live to Paris, what has been happening at the European

:31:12.:31:15.

Championship. Two thrilling games earlier on. Right now Italy against

:31:16.:31:17.

Ireland. Sweden against Belgium. Let's bring up the map, to remind

:31:18.:31:40.

you where we are. In Kent, the south-east of England. This can see

:31:41.:31:45.

is the closest to continental Europe. Also aware of many migrants

:31:46.:31:51.

coming to the UK first, arriving, and this referendum is being

:31:52.:31:54.

followed incredibly closely across the county. We will quickly show you

:31:55.:31:59.

how both sides have been putting their final points. Have a look at

:32:00.:32:06.

these pictures in London. Remain flew a plane over the top of

:32:07.:32:10.

Parliament. There was a message encouraging people to support their

:32:11.:32:15.

campaign. Stay in the European Union. Boris Johnson, former Mayor

:32:16.:32:22.

of London, important in the Leave campaign, he came close to kissing

:32:23.:32:27.

fish. He did not, in a fish market, highlighting what are the damaging

:32:28.:32:31.

consequences of the European Union for the British fisheries market. A

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quick reminder how to get in touch. All of your tweets come to me. We're

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getting many questions, I will go through those in the next half an

:32:48.:32:51.

hour. Everybody in this pub is talking about the referendum, with a

:32:52.:32:54.

sheet few exceptions watching the football. Nice to listen in on the

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conversation. Four people have stepped up in the main saloon of the

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pub. Talk to us. Hello, can you introduce yourself. I am at Watts,

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business owner. I employ 200 people in Kent, definitely out. My name is

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Linda, local resident, I'm voting leave tomorrow. I'm a student out of

:33:18.:33:24.

university of Manchester, I want to vote Remain. I am Robin Fletcher,

:33:25.:33:30.

self-employed, I'll be voting stay. I'm Richard, Independent. For a

:33:31.:33:40.

change in Europe. Why are you keen to stay? I am a student. Looking to

:33:41.:33:47.

the future. Personally I am a fashion student. I feel like I want

:33:48.:33:52.

to work in Europe without a Visa in the near future. I also feel if the

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pound were to depreciate, exports increasing, imports, we don't

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produce many clothes, it would not be good, it would be important to

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have a lot of imports still coming into the country without extra

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tariffs and rates. Your exports of your fashion would be cheaper. I is

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a parent of somebody similar, a similar age, I won her to be a

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global citizen, seeing the world beyond Europe. Consider fashion in

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New York, Australia, other places. It concerns me students think so

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much within Europe and not globally. There is a world beyond the

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Mediterranean. Obviously I will potentially do travelling in the

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likes of India and China, but I personally would like to work in

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London, I know it is one of the capital 's fashion. I know that

:34:55.:35:01.

London needs the EU, to stay alive, and for the economy to continue

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beaming. We don't want to have to go into another recession. Before we

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carry on, those watching, an article on the BBC News app, about London

:35:11.:35:22.

opting to become a country in its own right. Not to be taken

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seriously. I shall be voting out I want our country to restore

:35:28.:35:30.

democracy, control our borders once again. We can choose who comes into

:35:31.:35:36.

the country. I favour an Australian style points system. We can get the

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right people from all over the world, not just Europe. I want to

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trade with Europe and the rest of the world. I will be voting to stay

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in, I don't see any logical reason not to. The EE is an evolving

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entity, just the same as the UK's. -- the EU. Other countries are just

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as unhappy as we are, they are not voting to leave, they are trying to

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fix it and the bowl. As a business person when something has not worked

:36:16.:36:20.

for 40 years, you give it up. You move on. Considering the fact Europe

:36:21.:36:23.

is on the decline from the rest of the world is on the ascendancy, I

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think we're missing the opportunity to look beyond Europe, into the

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wider world. My country trades internationally, because of Europe,

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we have not agreed a single trade agreement with any large economy

:36:39.:36:44.

outside its own borders. For us, that is essential. I want to let

:36:45.:36:49.

members of Parliament no, I want them to go out there and get trade

:36:50.:36:54.

deals, don't take 40 years. Bring them back, help this country to look

:36:55.:37:00.

out, not in. Surely that is not true, we have traded treatments with

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China and the US. Europe has 50 trade agreements, they do sell them

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quite hard. They never tell you where they are from. Moldova, the

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Isle of Man, the Channel Islands. We do not, as part of the EU have a

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trade agreement with China, India or the United States. Richard, what

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deals can the UK cut? Being a member of the EU means you give up your

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ability to run your own national trade policy. We do make policies to

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be the EU, and have done since 1973. Most major economies do it through

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the WTO rather than by laterally. The WTO is what states are members.

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You have bilateral to deals between trading groups. We have to wrap it

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up. You are very passionate, ie anxious about the outcome? Very

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passionate about the outcome. I have a fear of waking up on Friday

:38:09.:38:11.

morning finding we're no longer in Europe. I am anxious, but I feel we

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should work with the EU, not have to give against them. Very anxious. I

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spent today in high street talking to lots of members of the public.

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Many of them are also very anxious, who want to be out. I'm very

:38:30.:38:36.

anxious, I want to keep investing, investing in innovation in this

:38:37.:38:40.

country. Unless we leave the EU because of the uneven playing field

:38:41.:38:44.

of European directives, we will not be investing or employing any more

:38:45.:38:49.

people unless we leave. All of you, thank you very much, we appreciated.

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Richard will keep answering questions. A letter questions coming

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in, saying, how would Brexit vote affect the border between the

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Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? The short answer is we're

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not sure. That is a potential issue. Not being outlined in any great

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detail. Most of this part is talking about the referendum. Over there,

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group of lads watching the football. Let's turn to the euros. Sensational

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day of games. Let's highlight what happened earlier on today. Let's

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talk about the games now. Ireland against Italy. Sweden against

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Belgium in Nice. We can go to the Paris fan zone. Welcome to Tunbridge

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Wells. Hard act to follow after this afternoon's games, Telus what is

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happening. You are exactly right. After what has been an extraordinary

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day. I'm afraid to report so far tonight, no goals. All of the groups

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apart from group E have been decided. Italy are already three.

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For the public of Ireland, only a win will take them through to the

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last 16. James McLean had a chance, bundled down, looked like a clear

:40:27.:40:33.

penalty. Referee did not see fit. As it stands, 0-0, the Republic of

:40:34.:40:37.

Ireland going out. The other match between Sweden and Belgium. At the

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moment, it looks like it will be Ibrahimovic's final game in a Sweden

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shirt. You said he will retire after the tournament, unless they be

:40:53.:40:55.

Belgium tonight, they will be going home. Belgium only need a point to

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guarantee second spot. They would play Hungary. Confirmation of the

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scores. It really has been the tournament of late goals. About ten

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minutes ago in each match. -- to go in each match. Harbor phone. --

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hold the phone. Belgium 1-0. McGeady is going to the public of Ireland.

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1-0. As it stands, the Republic of Ireland going through in third-place

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position in the group. What a time to come to us. With a time to come

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to us. If you see my in-laws in Tunbridge Wells, say hello. I will

:42:11.:42:18.

pass that on. I'm getting against area, they be group of people

:42:19.:42:21.

cheering the Republic of Ireland. Cannot see the screen. Such

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degrading, I thought someone had got hurt. Thank you very much. Not quite

:42:26.:42:31.

as big as crab as there was in Paris. Certainly involved in the

:42:32.:42:37.

football, and the referendum. Quite a lot of excitement in those games.

:42:38.:42:41.

This afternoon, two sensational matches. Iceland qualified for the

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knockout stages, beating Austria at the Stade de France. Another late

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goal. 3-3 between Portugal and Hungary. Ronaldo getting two. Here

:42:54.:43:01.

is the story of these games. What is eating Cristiano Ronaldo, he

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missed a penalty in his last touch, throwing the reporter's microphone

:43:10.:43:15.

in the river before the match. Hungary have thrived on the power of

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surprise. Step forward 44 you about -- 34 you both Zoltan Gera. Ronaldo

:43:28.:43:36.

cued up Nani, gay man. Andy Reid taking aim with the help of the

:43:37.:43:43.

flexion -- Hungary taking aim, with the reflection. Ronaldo got mad,

:43:44.:43:48.

this flick making him the first man to score in four European

:43:49.:43:52.

Championships. One Hungarian not allowing him the spotlight. He

:43:53.:44:00.

announced himself again. Cristiano Ronaldo rising to the challenge. Of

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course he would have the final word. 3-3 giving Portugal the point they

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needed to reach the final 16. Every minute Iceland have spent at the

:44:11.:44:13.

championship has been a reason for celebration. The team have played

:44:14.:44:21.

along. The direct approach playing havoc in the area. Out of the blue

:44:22.:44:30.

they handed Austria chance. Dragovic should've scored his nation's first

:44:31.:44:36.

goal of the tournament. What a time to miss. Only the second did Austria

:44:37.:44:40.

showed their talent, the best team the country have thought a while.

:44:41.:44:45.

Eventually equalising. Iceland just had to hang on, but a final surge of

:44:46.:44:50.

adrenaline coursing through Icelandic veins. Another hero in

:44:51.:44:56.

their saga. The next chapter, England.

:44:57.:45:03.

Welcome back to Tunbridge Wells. Singles night, busy. Everybody

:45:04.:45:08.

talking about the European Union referendum, voting tomorrow, or

:45:09.:45:13.

talking about the euros football. As you can seek a reasonably animated

:45:14.:45:19.

in here. This tournament and this vote does not matter to people in

:45:20.:45:25.

the UK, followed closely from the continent. I report about how the

:45:26.:45:29.

elite of the European Union is preparing for the UK's decision. --

:45:30.:45:34.

I have a report. The story about Sir Cliff Richard,

:45:35.:45:49.

calling for a change in the law so people accused of sexual offences

:45:50.:45:54.

have their identity protected until charged. In August 20 14th Sir Cliff

:45:55.:46:01.

Richard's home in Berkshire was raided by detectives. South

:46:02.:46:05.

Yorkshire Police investigating historical allegations of abuse. The

:46:06.:46:11.

raid was broadcasted by the BBC. Last week almost two years on he was

:46:12.:46:16.

told he would face no charges. The CPS saying there was no evidence to

:46:17.:46:17.

prosecute. Sir Clifford Howes -- Cliff said he may sue. He said he

:46:18.:46:29.

was justified in considering legal action. They must've been collusion.

:46:30.:46:34.

I don't take investigations take place with lightning and cameras,

:46:35.:46:41.

special angles for the helicopter. I feel I have every right to sue,

:46:42.:46:47.

because for nothing else, the gross invasion of my privacy. He said he

:46:48.:46:52.

still felt tarnished by the allegations, calling for a change in

:46:53.:46:56.

the law so people accused of sexual offences have their identity

:46:57.:47:00.

protected unless charged. The name should never be out there unless you

:47:01.:47:05.

have been charged. 22 months and a week later, here I am, no charge. I

:47:06.:47:11.

don't like the idea of being collateral damage. That is what I

:47:12.:47:15.

have been for 22 months. The BBC said it was very sorry Cliff Richard

:47:16.:47:21.

had suffered distress, but the corporation said they had reported

:47:22.:47:26.

his denial of allegations at every stage, and felt obliged to report

:47:27.:47:31.

the investigation in its entirety. South Yorkshire Police said it

:47:32.:47:34.

apologise wholeheartedly by the initial handling of the media

:47:35.:47:38.

interest in the case. They said they appreciated waiting for a conclusion

:47:39.:47:42.

would have caused additional distress to all those involved. Keep

:47:43.:47:48.

your questions coming. They are piling up. We will answer them

:47:49.:47:56.

before the end of the other. If you do not think you can get an answer

:47:57.:48:00.

from me in a pub in Tunbridge Wells, go to the BBC's Reality Check

:48:01.:48:08.

website. It will be invaluable if you are working out which way you

:48:09.:48:09.

want to vote. Welcome back to Outside Souce. The

:48:10.:48:24.

final day of campaigning in the UK's referendum on EU membership. We have

:48:25.:48:30.

heard from both sides, powerfully putting their messages across. We

:48:31.:48:35.

will learn by Friday morning which campaign did that most effectively.

:48:36.:48:42.

One of the things David Cameron has been saying, if there is a vote to

:48:43.:48:50.

Remain, he will return to the European Union Saint we need to

:48:51.:48:55.

think still further about the form this is the. He has made it clear he

:48:56.:48:59.

will be looking for VE EEA to reform in the coming years. Bear that in

:49:00.:49:05.

mind when I read what Jean-Claude Juncker said, the EU commission

:49:06.:49:06.

president. He says... That is how Jean-Claude Juncker puts

:49:07.:49:32.

it. Francois Hollande uses the word irreversible to describe Brexit. He

:49:33.:49:33.

goes on to say... Those are two messages coming from

:49:34.:49:50.

the very top of the European Union. Here is a report from Damien,

:49:51.:49:59.

Atticus looking further into the pressure this is applying.

:50:00.:50:05.

Some are serene and focus. Others allowed. Turkish Kurds and Chinese

:50:06.:50:13.

anti-torture campaigners. All attempting to influence the EU from

:50:14.:50:19.

the outside. Inside, there are debates aplenty. Whatever the UK

:50:20.:50:27.

decides, Europe is eyeing change. Driving the EU forward, Germany and

:50:28.:50:32.

France. We brought together two of the longest serving MEPs. A French

:50:33.:50:37.

socialist and a German conservative. Half a century of European politics

:50:38.:50:42.

between them. Both believers in the EE and the future. I don't see my

:50:43.:50:46.

country fancying the challenge of the world alone. I have in modestly

:50:47.:50:51.

to believe it will be the same for the UK. It is a success story, 70

:50:52.:50:56.

years peace and freedom. Unification of the whole of Europe. The European

:50:57.:51:02.

Union has 25% of the GDP of the world. The exports of the European

:51:03.:51:06.

Union more than the 90s Bates and China together. Not a failed state.

:51:07.:51:12.

The rest of the world would like to come to this failed region, must not

:51:13.:51:18.

be so bad overall. We have to see that we have to do a lot of reforms.

:51:19.:51:25.

The reforms exactly? 27 of eight EU countries all have their views,

:51:26.:51:29.

improving the single market, stimulating growth and jobs. Doing

:51:30.:51:33.

trade deals, expanding the EU's influence. With or without the UK,

:51:34.:51:40.

the EU is on the move. More integration in Europe, growing

:51:41.:51:44.

numbers of sceptics. I belong to a group, or agents very much in favour

:51:45.:51:49.

of strengthening the National competences. In this case,

:51:50.:51:56.

dissolution of the euro, or at least shrinking the euro to set off

:51:57.:52:00.

countries which can sustain the common currency. As always in

:52:01.:52:04.

Europe, leaders like Angela Merkel will decide if new powers should be

:52:05.:52:11.

pulled. David McAllister is a close confidant. The national governments

:52:12.:52:16.

and parliaments have to decide whether they give a new

:52:17.:52:20.

responsibility to Brussels. Up to the member states to decide which

:52:21.:52:25.

future the European Union will take. Personally I believe we have to make

:52:26.:52:28.

the European Union more effective, more transparent, more democratic,

:52:29.:52:35.

and of course, we have to make it more accountable. Their goals, most

:52:36.:52:42.

in Europe share. The issue is how to get there. Finally of course the

:52:43.:52:48.

question of what the referendum result will mean for the UK? A clear

:52:49.:52:52.

out vote, and the UK will withdraw from all of this. A clear in vote,

:52:53.:52:57.

and the UK could use the influence to shape the future direction of the

:52:58.:53:01.

EU to its liking. A result that leave the country divided, it could

:53:02.:53:06.

make relations with the EU even more complicated.

:53:07.:53:11.

We have a couple of minutes left. More questions with Richard with the

:53:12.:53:25.

organisation UK And a Changing Europe. How much will it cost the UK

:53:26.:53:31.

to leave? Nobody knows. Not least in civil servants and time. What about

:53:32.:53:37.

the EU health guides? If I'm in the UK, want to go on holiday, will I

:53:38.:53:41.

have to pay? You will, the scheme would end. Unless the UK decided to

:53:42.:53:45.

negotiate with other countries. They could do. Those new deals would have

:53:46.:53:51.

to be done. Christopher says, if we vote to leave the EEA, will

:53:52.:53:56.

companies be able to have European headquarters there? Of course, that

:53:57.:54:02.

will not change. They made make a decision to be inside the single

:54:03.:54:05.

market, they could decide to move. We appreciate your help. Thank you

:54:06.:54:13.

to Jean-Luc, the son of the landlord. I going to be offering

:54:14.:54:20.

drinks to people after they have voted? We are offering drinks

:54:21.:54:26.

always. I wanted to show we have made it onto the blackboard. The

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landlord is for Brexit, he has put yes or no, giving customers an

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option. Here the BBC, we are providing completely neutral

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information if you are deciding to make your mind up. Go to the BBC's

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Reality Change website. Tomorrow not able to report anything apart from

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the voting. Once the polls have shut, you will get extensive

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coverage of the referendum inside and outside the UK. Goodbye from one

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