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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Our top story today: After seven years, the Chilcot report

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into the UK's involvement in the Iraq war has finally been

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We have concluded that the UK chose to in -- chose to join the invasion

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of Iraq before the peaceful options for disarmament had been exhausted.

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Military action at that time was not a last resort.

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Tony Blair was the prime minister at the time.

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He defended some of his decisions, but admitted he had made mistakes.

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For all of this, I express more pot-mac sorrow -- I express more...

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Sorrow, regret than you may know or can believe.

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We'll hear from Louisiana later in the programme,

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where two white police officers

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We will explain the circumstances of that.

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We will have the latest from the Euros in France -

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2-0 to the Portuguese, and the Welsh are running out of time.

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Let's return to our coverage of the Chilcot report that was released

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this morning in London. Most of them were

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military personnel. Sir John Chilcot acknowledged

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the "deep anguish" Well, several of those

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families have been speaking The bereaved have endured seven

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years of painful waiting Debbie Allbutt and her son Connor

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were on their way to hear Steven Allbutt, husband and father,

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was killed in Iraq in 2003. In the last few days,

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the trauma has returned. It has brought a lot

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of memories back. I have had nightmares,

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that I saw Steve. I saw him in a shop,

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it was a nightmare. I am just hoping we find out why

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we went in and why we went In the quiet of nearby

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Westminster Abbey, former SAS man John Brown was remembering his son,

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Nick, also an SAS trooper. He wanted answers about

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the justification for going to war. We want to know what the inquiry

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says about the entry, I know they did not

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have an exit strategy. The families came here looking

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for the truth that named names Well, they've now had

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a chance to consider The families gathered

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here trust that we speak The families say they will study

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the conclusions and decide whether to launch legal action

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against Tony Blair. I'm going back to that time

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when I learned that my brother had been killed, and there is one

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terrorist in this world that the world needs to be aware of,

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and his name is Tony Blair. But there was a welcome

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for the report's findings What is your reaction

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to what you heard? Amazed, I didn't expect it to be

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as good an outcome, really. I thought we would have a bit

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of cover up or something. Sir John Chilcot has

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done us a good job. I'm really, really

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pleased with the outcome. It's good news, but at the same time

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it's bad news as well, because I think if Tony Blair wasn't

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the Prime Minister at the time, I think my dad could still

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have been here today. The former SAS man John Brown

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watched Tony Blair's For all of this, I express more

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sorrow, regret and apology... The Chilcot Report has not given

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the families all the answers they sought, but it has restored

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some measure of their faith As we've heard, one of the key

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criticisms within the Chilcot report is the lack of planning for Ford

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would happen after Saddam Hussain had been deposed. Jack Straw was the

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UK 's Foreign Secretary. He has aimed criticism that the Americans,

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in particular this man, Paul Bremer, who was the US official who decided

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that the Iraqi army should be disbanded. Mr Straw has said that:

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We have also heard from a spokesperson for President Bush. A

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statement says: Lets bringing Gary O'Donoghue, live from Washington,

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DC. You have a presidential election to keep the US media busy, I wonder

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if this report has cut through. It honestly hasn't cut through very

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much here. The White House and State Department have been asked about it,

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and they have effectively brushed it aside as a sort of UK matter. They

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say it is something that has been widely litigated, in their words, in

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the United States, and they feel they have done their postmortem on

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the Iraq war a long time ago. There are in mind that President Obama has

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been in for two terms, and he was against the Iraq war, and that also

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allows the US to distance themselves from these decisions. As you said,

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former President Bush, saying that the world was better off without

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Saddam Hussein, pointing to Tony Blair and saying that the world had

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no stronger ally. There are some incredibly revelatory moments in the

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report, not least that note in 2002, when Tony Blair said to President

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Bush, I will be with you, whatever. That is one of the things that has

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focused people's minds today. Was that a blank cheque to the

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Americans? Tony Blair says the report vindicates him in terms of

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that, the American administration not really willing to engage on what

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that means for the relationship going forward. Tony Blair thought it

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was essential to stand shoulder to shoulder with the Americans. Did the

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UK reap the benefit of that in the years that followed? If you look at

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UK foreign policy since the Second World War, it has been an absolutely

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enduring theme of Prime Minister 's of all parties that the

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relationship, the so-called special relationship, is central to

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Britain's national interest. Sir John Chilcot said that Tony Blair

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estimate -- overestimated the influence he had in Washington.

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Talking to a former ambassador to Iraq here this morning, he said that

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the relationship was important and there was influence on George Bush

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at the time, from what Tony Blair said, in terms of getting him to go

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to the UN, for example, for a resolution. I think the UK continues

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to see itself as a kind of conduit between the US and the rest of the

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world, so the relationship remains important, but there is no doubt

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that it paid a price in international terms for being that

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conduit, because it alienate a pass -- it alienate it partners in

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Europe, notably France and Germany. I would highly recommend following

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our correspondence on Twitter for more of this.

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Alistair Campbell, Tony Blair's press adviser at the time says,

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mistakes, yes, but no lies, deceit, secret deals, sexing up.

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One of the most controversial aspects of the run-up to the

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invasion of Iraq in 2003 was the role being played by the

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intelligence services. The Chilcot report deals with this explicitly,

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saying : Here is the BBC's security

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correspondent, Frank Gardner, on that.

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Iraq under the late President Saddam Hussein

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was a notoriously difficult place to spy on.

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But Washington and Whitehall were desperate to acquire any

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intelligence on Iraq's suspected chemical, biological

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UN weapons inspectors had been searching Iraq for evidence of these

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Saddam's regime behaved as if it were hiding something.

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In fact, those programmes were destroyed in 1991,

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But in Whitehall in the run-up to the invasion,

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the Joint Intelligence Committee seized on what turned out to be

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flimsy and poorly assessed intelligence supplied by MI6.

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The Chilcot report says: Judgments about the severity of the threat

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posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction were presented with

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It adds that the assessed intelligence had not established

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beyond doubt that Saddam Hussein continued to produce chemical

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MI6, Britain's Secret Intelligence Service,

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comes out badly from the Chilcot report.

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Because it confirms in stark words that the intelligence on Iraq

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was wrong and it needed to have been rigorously and independently

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challenged by people other than those who gathered it.

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Since then, that service has undergone a root and

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Today raw material supplied by intelligence case officers

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is independently assessed and challenged by others.

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For MI6 the Chilcot report still makes uncomfortable reading.

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But by now its lessons should be well and truly learned.

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More on the Chilcot report through the BBC News website.

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Our viewing figures in Wales today might be down on the average, and we

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could understand, because as I am talking, Wales is involved in

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arguably the most important football match it has ever played - Wales

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against Portugal. The Welsh are losing at the moment, with about

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five minutes to put that right. More on our top story: The former

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Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, has been giving his reaction to the

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report. He sat down for an interview with our Deputy political editor.

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The decision that I made to recommend to the hazard Commons that

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we should take military action was the most difficult -- to the House

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of Commons that we should take military action was the most

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difficult one I have made. It will live with me for the rest of my

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life, and I fully understand the terrible grief of those who lost

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loved ones serving in Iraq, UK personnel, and everybody else who

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has died as a consequence of our decisions. Could you have done more

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to make post-war planning better? You are named in the report as

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having failed in that regard. Of course we could, in retrospect. At

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the time, I thought I was doing everything I conceivably could in

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terms of post-war planning. Part of the difficulty was that we were, as

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the report accurately describe, the junior partners of the United

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States, and that became very evident, not so much jeering the

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intense military action in March - April 2003, but in the aftermath.

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For certain, I could have done more things differently with the benefit

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of hindsight. You are one of very few ministers who knew what was

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going on. It was not properly discussed or decided, according to

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Chilcot. There were extensive discussions in Cabinet. There were

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not discussions on papers in Cabinet. That was something I work

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for very hard myself, and it is a matter of regret that that didn't

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happen. Mr Blair now accept that. If there is one thing you could do

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again differently, what would it be? If there was a magic wand, it would

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have been to know the truth about Iraq's WMD, or the fact that Saddam

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had secretly disposed of the unquestioned programmes and holdings

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that he had had. But I'm afraid, life isn't like that. I ideally wish

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that the American Government, or part of it, had not made the

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decision to just abolish the whole of Iraq's security forces, which was

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a huge error. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. A long-awaited British inquiry

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into the Iraq war has heavily criticised the British government

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for helping the US to invade before all peaceful options

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had been exhausted. If you're outside of the UK,

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it's World News America next. And they'll have more analysis

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of the Chilcot report, including an interview

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with Stephen Hadley, who was President George Bush's

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deputy national security advisor Here in the UK, the

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News at Ten is next. It'll also have more

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on the Chilcot report, including an in-depth look

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at the failings of the UK Let's turn away from the Chilcot

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report for a few minutes. A video has emerged appearing

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to show two white police officers holding down and shooting dead

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a black man in Louisiana. The confrontation happened

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in Baton Rouge after reports of a man threatening people

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with a gun outside a shop. I'm going to play you some

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of the video now, but a warning that some of you may

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find it distressing. After that, Alton

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Sterling was shot dead. He is not what the mass media is

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making him out to be. This is a play to try and obscure the image of a

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man who is simply trying to earn a living.

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There have been protests and a furious response on social media.

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We must see this in the context of, first, the number

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of people killed by police - that figure is over

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And that, second, the number of these people who are black is hugely

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disproportionate to the make-up of American society.

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There should be no doubt in anybody's's mind that this incident

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is going to be investigated impartially, professionally and

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thoroughly by the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights

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division. Hopefully, when the community understands that, the

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tensions will ease, and we will continue to press for calm and

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patience. That is what I am asking for right now. Back to our lead

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story. You may have seen on Sunday that there was the deadliest attack

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in Iraq. The Chilcot report details that between the invasion and July

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2009, at least 150,000 Iraqis died June ring either the invasion or the

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subsequent instability. The BBC's Middle East editor, Jeremy Bowen,

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has been reporting all week from Iraq. Here is his latest report.

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The people of Baghdad and the rest of Iraq are still living and dying

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with the consequences of the 2003 invasion.

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Security is being beefed up yet again after the bomb that killed

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But the fear of a sudden random death is never far away.

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When the US forces reached Baghdad in April 2003, pictures of them

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helping Iraqis topple a statue of Saddam Hussein went

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Hadi Al Jabari started knocking lumps out of the plinth to celebrate

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Now like many Iraqis, he's nostalgic for the brutal

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TRANSLATION: Saddam has gone and we now have 1000 Saddams.

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If Tony Blair was here this morning, what would you say to him?

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TRANSLATION: I would say to him, you are a criminal.

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Less than an hour's drive from Baghdad, these are Iraqi Shia

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militiamen, trained and equipped by Iran,

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Chilcot says the British Government ignored a warning that removing

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Saddam would offer Iran an opening in Iraq.

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Captured IS positions seemed to have been prepared by trained soldiers,

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IS commanders include former Iraqi officers who joined

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the jihadists when the US and Britain dissolved the Iraqi army.

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Not all of the chaos, violence and war in the Middle East

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at the moment can be traced back to the invasion of Iraq in 2003,

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It was like throwing a great big rock into a pond,

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it sent out shock waves, geopolitical, religious,

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And 13 years later, they're still crashing around the region.

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Warnings about internal strife, regional instability and the rise

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of jihadists were also ignored by Number Ten, says Chilcot.

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Iraq's sectarian violence spread to Syria, Yemen, and elsewhere.

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As leaders used and abused Shia Sunni fears to fight for power.

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Jihadists were on the attack before the invasion.

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But Iraq after 2003 offered Al-Qaeda a haven and launch pad that Islamic

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Small numbers of British troops who we filmed on condition

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At this base, Australians and New Zealanders

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It is a long way from what Chilcot calls the humiliating

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end of an intervention that went badly wrong,

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We're going to finish today's Outside Source by bringing you

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up-to-date on the football. It has been the first semi final of Euro

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2016. Portugal versus Wales, and if you will forgive me dropping away

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BBC neutrality for a moment, it hasn't gone well. Let's talk to

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Katie. It sounds, looking at the BBC live page, that there was too much

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Ronaldo for Wales. He has been sensational, you are

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right. We have just had the final whistle. It is the Portuguese fans

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who will go home celebrating. They have seen their team win 2-0 to make

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it to the final. For Wales fans, it has been a fairy tale. It was a

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nervous start to the match, but it burst into life after the break.

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Christianity Ronaldo scored a fantastic header from a corner, to

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score the game's opening goal. Three minutes later, Portugal had a

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second. Wales switched off again and a shot from Ronaldo was swept in.

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Those two body blows meant Wales could not recover. They will go home

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disappointed, but they will hold their heads high. They will go home

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as heroes. No one expected them to get this far. They won... Portugal

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head on to Paris to play either France or Germany on Sunday.

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It feels like it wasn't so long ago that we were talking about the

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trouble between England and Russia fans - what is the atmosphere like

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today? It has been really positive. I think

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we can say that, from Wales fans in particular, all along. It has been a

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party atmosphere for them. We have not seen any trouble from Wales or

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Portuguese fans. Everywhere you look, there have been red shirts,

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singing nonstop throughout the day. It has been a positive atmosphere.

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We did notice some of the security forces here in the fan park moving

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quite quickly into the crowd at the end, but I think that was a

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precautionary measure. Overall, the atmosphere has been very good,

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Portuguese fans really celebrating and hoping that their team can win a

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major tournament. Ronaldo hoping as well that he can win his first major

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trophy for Portugal. He has won just about everything else.

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I'll leave you to enjoy the atmosphere. Portugal are through. It

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is France versus Germany tomorrow. One of those will face Portugal. We

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will cover the build-up to the final across the weekend. Outside Source

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should be live from the place that wins on Monday. See you then.

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Hello there. A huge weekend of sporting event coming up, which will

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look at in more detail

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