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I'm Ros Atkins, welcome to Outside Source. We are now several hours

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into a new truce in Syria. Already there are warnings it will fail to

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hold. We have a special report from Aleppo. It has been a long, hot and

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dangerous summer in Aleppo. You can see it in the fabric of the city,

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the damage that has been done. Hillary Clinton is unwell, having

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cancelled a trip to California and after this video of her unsteady on

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her feet as she got into a vehicle, it has been revealed she has

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pneumonia. We will be live in Washington to discuss this.

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In June, David Cameron stood down as Prime Minister and today he

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announced he is leaving politics. We will discuss what -- why that might

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be. We also go to Mexico City weather

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have been huge pro-and anti-same-sex marriage marches. We will explain

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how the church fits into that. Any questions or comments on the

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subjects we have been covering, please use this hashtag.

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The new ceasefire in Syria is intended to be ten days long. It was

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brokered by the US and Russia. We are now several hours into it. As

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I'm sure all of you know, the war has already taken the heaviest of

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tolls on this country. Over 250,000 people have died in the last five

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years. Almost 5 million people have had to flee abroad. Another 6.5

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million are displaced inside Syria. Aleppo is a city we have reported on

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perhaps more than any other in Syria. It is the centre of the

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humanitarian crisis. It used to be the largest city in Syria but

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thousands of people have left and what is left, areas controlled by

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the Government and by rubble groups and those people who cannot or will

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not leave. Jeremy Bowen is in Aleppo, he is always worth following

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on Twitter but particularly so today. He showed this picture. This

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was the moment that the time of the truce came and the weapons had to

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fall quiet. He points out that no side is particularly confident it

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will last. Here is his report. The further you drive

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north in Syria, This road is the regime's fragile

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link between Damascus and Aleppo. Rebels cut it this summer where it

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reaches the Aleppo suburbs. They were only driven back by

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Syrian troops at the weekend. Shelling was still

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going on as we drove in, government artillery hitting

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rebel positions. It has been a long, hot

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and dangerous summer in Aleppo. And you can see it in

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the fabric of the city, The ceasefire is meant to stop

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all of that. Since fighting started in 2012,

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the west side of the city Armed opposition groups

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control the east. Four years of fighting

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have devastated Aleppo. This gives an idea of the firepower

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of the Syrian Army and its Russian backers who have been making

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gains around Aleppo. One of the big questions

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about the ceasefire is whether they are prepared

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to give their enemies On the rebel side,

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there are also doubts. Groups backed by the Americans have

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been told that they have to separate from more radical militias

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who they regard as allies. And another important rebel group,

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Ahrar al-Sham, which is backed by Saudi Arabia, has already

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rejected the ceasefire agreement. TRANSLATION: The deal announced

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between the US and Russia to resolve the issue in Syria does not achieve,

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in our view, the basic minimum goals They will lose all their

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sacrifices and gains. In Damascus, President Bashar

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al-Assad chose to celebrate the Muslim festival of Eid-al Adha

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by visiting and praying It was in rebel hands for five years

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until they surrendered at the end of August

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after what the UN called President Assad's Government

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has backed the ceasefire, but his words suggested that he has

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unfinished military business. TRANSLATION: The Syrian state

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is determined to recover all to restore security,

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rebuild infrastructure and everything else that was destroyed

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in both human and material aspects. We came here today to replace

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the fake freedom that they tried to promote at the start

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of the crisis, like in Daraya,

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with the real freedom. The holiday is being celebrated

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even though there was a steady thunder of artillery fire

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throughout the day. The ceasefire agreement

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is complicated, potentially fragile, and all sides in the war doubt

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whether it can work. At the very least,

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it might be a respite There is a huge mound of information

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on the Syrian conflict whenever you want to access it online from BBC

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News. Let's talk about Hillary Clinton.

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She has pneumonia. She was first diagnosed on Friday, but her

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campaign made the matter public only after this happened at the weekend.

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She had left the 9/11 commemoration due feeling unwell. She was being

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supported by colleagues, you can see clearly she is unsteady on her feet

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and she is helped into that vehicle. You may wonder as you watch this

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what it has to do with politics. Well, it has a lot to do with

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politics. He is devolved Axelrod, former chief election strategist for

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Barack Obama. -- David Axelrod. A really sharp, from him. Broader

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issues of privacy and health are now in play. The US networks are all

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over this story. We are now running she has been diagnosed with

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pneumonia. The issue coming in a 9/11 commemoration at ground zero.

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She left the memorial service in New York this morning after becoming

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overheated. She went to her daughter's apartment. We have

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breaking news in CNN, an update on Hillary Clinton's Hell. What we have

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just learned is that Hillary Clinton's doctor attended to her at

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her home today. Her doctor has put her on antibiotics, suggesting it is

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a bacterial infection of the lungs. It is a diagnosis that you can

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understand why someone would curtail their schedule. To me it is a good

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news, bad news situation. The good news is that the worst bit of it is

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in the rear-view mirror. The bad news is that this is a pothole that

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is not. It is the storyline of whether she has the stamina but also

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the story went off, is she transparent?

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Hillary Clinton's Doctor is saying she has walking pneumonia. If you

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are wondering what that is, there is an article all about it on the BBC

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News website. Essentially this is a mild form of pneumonia, often the

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result of an inhalation of bacteria. You can get much more detail on

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this. Donald Trump is laying low on this story. By the way, he also

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dressed -- addressed demands for more information on his health.

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As we often do on US election campaign matters, we have a BBC

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correspondent in Washington. What is devolved Axelrod's point about

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Hillary Clinton and oversee? -- David. The thing that is frustrating

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Clinton supporters today is that this is another problem, they say,

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of Hillary Clinton's own making. It is one thing to fall sick, but at

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the campaign had treated this with full disc dollar disclosure, -- full

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disclosure, there would have been some sympathy for her. The problem

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is, the campaign did not do that. They did not tell the public she had

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pneumonia until after she had collapsed. David Axelrod is really

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referring to the e-mail scandal, were again what you're suggesting is

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that there is something about Hillary Clinton that is not

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transparent, that does not like to reveal everything to the public,

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something kind of hidden, and that her desire, her Puncheon for secrecy

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is very damaging. That is the link between getting sick and not

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revealing the medical records about this pneumonia, the e-mail scandal

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and why she has not been totally transparent about it. There might be

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lots of people watching this who think it is slightly odd that there

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is an expectation that both candidates have to put so much

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private information into the public arena. Yes, we do have two

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relatively old candidates running for the White House. Hillary Clinton

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is 68, Donald Trump is 70. In a couple of months, one of them will

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become the incumbent of the most powerful job in the country, perhaps

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in the world, and the public thinks it has a right to know whether they

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are fit or not. Is there something in either of their medical records

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that voters should be concerned about as they make their choice

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about these candidates? That is why there is also pressure on Donald

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Trump at the moment for him to disclose his medical records, as

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well as on Hillary Clinton to disclose her medical records. Her

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campaign is saying today it is only pneumonia, there is no other issued

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the public needs to be concerned about, but voters and the press want

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to see the evidence of that. In terms of how disruptive this will

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be, clearly she is not going to California, so very disruptive in

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the short-term, but is there expectation this could have a longer

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term impact? The campaign does say she will video conference into that

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meeting but she has cancelled the trip. My hunch on this, and I am

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going on my gut and on past campaign experience, is that this does not

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need to have a long-term impact. We are two months away from the

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election. We are two weeks away from the first debate and she has to

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perform well so she has to be better. But I think as long as she

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recovers from pneumonia, gets back on the campaign trail, there is the

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potential for the health side of this, the questions about whether

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she is fit or not, to recede as we get closer to the election. Thank

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you very much, we will speak again soon.

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We were just talking about people who want to leave the country, let's

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talk about a man who once did but is not any more. It doesn't look like

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David Cameron will be standing for election any time soon. He resigned

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as a minister after Brexit but today he announced he is quitting as an

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MP. Here he is expending choir. With the

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circumstances of my resignation, it is not really possible to be a

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proper backbench MP as a former Prime Minister. I think everything

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you do will become a big distraction and a big diversion from what the

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Government needs to do for our country. I support Theresa May, I

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think she got off to a great start, that she can be a strong Prime

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Minister and I do not want to be that destruction. I want Witney to

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have a new MP who can play a full part in Parliamentary and political

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life without being a distraction. There has been some intriguing

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analysis. Nick Robinson says... And from one of the daily

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Telegraph's most senior editors... Let's just remind you what David

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Cameron said when he resigned. He has not made it through

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September. What is going on here? But a spring in Glenn Campbell in

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Westminster. I'm sure you have heard 101 degrees today. What is the

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reaction and analysis you are hearing? I think David Cameron has a

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point when he talks about being a distraction. It certainly would have

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been the case that any pronouncement he made was measured and considered

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for any criticism that might imply as regards the work of his

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successor, Theresa May and her Government. But also, as somebody

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who has served on the front bench in the House of Commons at the highest

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level has Prime Minister, it must be pretty difficult to then carry on as

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an ordinary backbench MP and watch as some of the policies you have

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pursued are changed and there is a clear example of a change in

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direction today here at the House of Commons, where the Education

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Secretary has been setting out a new direction for education policy,

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including selective schools, and expansion of the network of

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selective schools, expanding them in a way that David Cameron certainly

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would not have approved of. He certainly does not have to remain in

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the House of Commons to vote for things that he does not like any

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more, because he is no longer an MP. No sooner had he announced his

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decision to go than the former -- the procedure sparked into life. It

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is not particularly unusual for a former Prime Minister to opt out of

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a long career on the back benches. But the reaction to this has been

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quite spiky. How do we understand that? Different Prime Ministers have

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chosen to do different things. When Tony Blair stood down from office,

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he immediately left the House of Commons. When Gordon Brown lost the

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election, he decided to stay on in Parliament until his term as an MP

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came to an end. One former Conservative leader today, William

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Hague, said David Cameron had done the right thing, because former

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Prime Ministers tent to get criticised I therefore being that

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destruction or for doing too little work. But on the Labour benches,

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while there have been warm tributes to him from the current Labour

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reader, Jeremy Corbyn and other senior Labour figures, Angela Eagle

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said she could not bring herself to give him praise because he took the

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country into the EU referendum and lost and she said that it was

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effectively leaving to let others could up the mess that he had

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created. Thank you very much. So we have been to Washington,

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Westminster and in a few minutes we will be going to Mexico City. We

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have seen two pretty different protests over the weekend. One

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calling for all plans for the national legalisation of same-sex

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marriage to be stopped. Another cause for much more extensive LGBT I

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writes. The Education Secretary has promised

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to deliver a new generation of grammar schools in England. She told

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MPs in the House of Commons today that expanding grammar schools would

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help families who could not afford to buy houses in the catchment areas

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of good schools. Labour's Angela Rayner responded. As my right

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honourable friend the Prime Minister has said, this Government is putting

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the interests of ordinary working class people first. We want this

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country to be a truly meritocratic country, where what matters most is

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a person's individual talent and their capacity for hard work. So we

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need to build a school system that works for everyone. Not just for the

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privileged few. The various proposals set out today in this

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consultation document all drive towards one very simple goal,

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increasing the number of good school places for all children.

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I give a Jonny May. This is Outside Source. -- thank you for joining me.

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Our lead story comes from server at the latest ceasefire has begun. It

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was brokered by the Americans and Russia. It is designed to last for

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ten days. The main stories from BBC World

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Service. It has been warned that North Korea is preparing for another

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nuclear weapons test. There were reports of another test last Friday.

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Officials are saying these aerial photographs of the test site

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indicate that only two of three test tunnels have so far been used.

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This is believed to be a piece of the missing flight, from the Xhosa

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Madagascar. It was discovered by an American who has helped find nearly

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half of the pieces of suspected -- half of the pieces.

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Let's go to Mexico, I want to show you two demonstrations for and

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against gay marriage. First of all, this is from Saturday. This code is

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against the idea, they are chanting things like, wake up and defend the

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family, children need a mother and a father. But this protest is from the

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Sunday, in support of the idea of gay marriage being legalised across

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the country. One banner read, I respect your family, respect mine.

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The reason I mentioned the push for the national law is because the law

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is quick confiscated. Gay marriage is legal in Mexico City and in nine

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other state, but the President wants to change the constitution to allow

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it nationally. Hence the marchers. The BBC correspondent is there in

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Mexico City now. Aside from thinking this is the right thing to do, why

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has the President chosen to pick a political fight on this now? To give

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you more context, it was last year that the Supreme Court in Mexico

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ruled that any marriage that was restricted to just the man and a

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woman would be hung -- unconstitutional. So that is a big

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step to open doors to equal marriage. A lot of states have been

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slow in announcing that, and that is why back in May the President

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started an initiative to say they should change the constitution to

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allow anyone who wants to get married to get married. So that has

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been the sticking point because if you're not in one of those ten

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states, then everybody in terms of equal marriage has to go to get a

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legal challenge. That has been the biggest problem. Why is he picking

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this battle now? It is certainly not a good time for President Pena Nieto

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because he had the visit of Donald Trump, he is not getting a very good

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approval rating. He has come under a lot of criticism. But this is

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interesting to see people on both sides of the debate arguing for what

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they want when it comes to equal marriage. Where is the Catholic

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Church fitting into this? The Catholic church has officially said

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they have not been backing the marchers, but there have been

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bishops who have been getting involved. Mexico is a secular state

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and has been since the revolution. People have been angry about bishops

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being involved in politics but the counter argument has been, this is

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not a national law yet this is a proposal. So those members of the

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clergy have been involved in the marchers are doing so as private

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citizens. But September the 24th is expected to be another march and a

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counter march for those who believe in equal marriage. So the debate

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could carry on. Buds begin the business section by

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talking about Tata Steel. It has posted a third consecutive quarterly

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loss than a shrug of more than ?350 million. This is the company that

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sold some of its UK operations in April and that appears to have had a

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negative impact. Tata Steel reported a net loss of

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?358 million in the first quarter of this year. This was primarily due to

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its discontinued businesses, including operations in the UK.

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However, the company expects its prospects to improve in the coming

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months due to a weakening pound after the Brexit though. This is

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expected to boost the UK's competitiveness when it comes to

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exports. However, the management acknowledged that this will be just

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a short-term gain and more needs to be done to make this a viable

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business in the long-term. And to achieve that, one of the options

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there is exploring is to form a joint venture with other interested

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companies. But one of the biggest stumbling blocks for the sale of its

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European business has been the legacy of the British steel pension

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fund. Tata Steel inherited that when they took over the business.

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Currently, it has 130,000 members and a deficit of ?700 million. The

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company said it is in touch with all the stakeholders, including the

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Government, the trustees and the unions, to find a viable solution to

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this problem. Better news for Manchester United.

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It has become the first UK football club to make over half ?1 billion of

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revenue in a single year. In comparison, Barcelona's equivalent

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figures were ?570 million. Let's bring in Samir Hussein. How does

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this number breakdown? What is pushing the number up? Well, it has

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been particularly good in terms of financials for Manchester United

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because they have had a few really lucrative commercial deals that have

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come through, which has pushed up how much they are making on things

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like merchandising and how much they make in terms of ticket sales. There

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was also a profitable new agreement that went into effect with Adidas,

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which also proved to be quite lucrative for the company. But it is

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not all rosy. Although the company has said that it had recognised any

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use, they are not expecting this kind of record-breaking revenue in

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the next few years. A big reason has to do with the fact that the team

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did not make it into the Champions League. And they have listed on the

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New York Stock Exchange, why is that? It does. But just in terms of

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the company was my financials, a big reason why the fact they did not get

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into the Champions League is having such a big impact, one figure put it

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at ?30 million loss for the company. Just by not being in that league.

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Thank you very much. That's it for the first half of

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Outside Source. Thank you for watching.

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You can get in touch with this hashtag. I will be back in a couple

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of minutes. Hello. An early taste of winter came

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