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Hello, welcome to Outside Source, and Bratislava, where leaders from | :00:14. | :00:20. | |
across this continent have come together at a time of crisis for the | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
EU. They are trying to plot a future for the union. There has been one | :00:26. | :00:31. | |
noticeable absentee. The UK was not invited because of the vote to | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
Brexit. The EU leaders say any time the UK wants to start the | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
negotiations, they are ready. We are well prepared. We can start | :00:42. | :00:51. | |
procedures even tomorrow. Aside from Brexit, the focus has | :00:52. | :00:57. | |
been the issues the EU knows the citizens care about, the economy, | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
security and the migrant crisis. Today has raised many issues not | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
just about what has been achieved here, but about the future of the EU | :01:07. | :01:11. | |
and the UK. If you have any questions, use the hashtag. I will | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
do my best to give you some answers. The 27 members of the EU who will be | :01:15. | :01:40. | |
left once the UK Leeds have come together here in Slovakia with a | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
number of goals. First, they want to send a message to the world that | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
they are unified. Committed to the future of the EU. They wanted to | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
save a listening to the citizens of the EU. If we drill in on the map, | :01:56. | :02:00. | |
we can highlight where they have been meeting. At Bratislava Castle. | :02:01. | :02:08. | |
On the south side is a huge press centre, from where I am speaking to | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
you, and from where the press conferences been taking place. There | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
was a hugely sibilant moment earlier. Every time the leaders come | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
together, they do a family photo. This one was a bit different, | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
because there were not 28 leaders in this photo, there were 27. Theresa | :02:27. | :02:34. | |
May is not here. She and the UK were not invited. One of the big things | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
that the EU wants to do today is to send a message about Brexit, and | :02:40. | :02:47. | |
about the EU's plans. What was Kosovo is as an opportunity. He has | :02:48. | :02:58. | |
said... Donald tells, the Prime Minister of Slovakia and Jean-Claude | :02:59. | :03:03. | |
Yunker were giving a press conference just over there, let me | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
play you some of what was said. Our procedures and rules described | :03:09. | :03:18. | |
precisely in our treaty are to protect our interest, the 27 | :03:19. | :03:25. | |
countries, not a leaving country. This must be very clear. It is not | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
against the UK. We are well prepared for the negotiations. We can stop | :03:32. | :03:38. | |
procedures even tomorrow. -- start. But we have to respect the needs of | :03:39. | :03:48. | |
our British colleagues. We made it clear since the beginning, the | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
access to the internal market and the basis principles of the internal | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
market, namely the one of freedom of movement of workers, we are sticking | :04:02. | :04:09. | |
to that position, this is not a game between Prime Minister 's. This is | :04:10. | :04:18. | |
about people in Europe. Let's talk to a couple of people who | :04:19. | :04:26. | |
have been watching today closely. Donald Tusk also hinted that he may | :04:27. | :04:31. | |
know the timing of these big O she Asians. He met with Theresa May last | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
week in London. He revealed at the press conference that she said they | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
would likely be ready to trigger the withdrawal process by January or | :04:41. | :04:48. | |
February 2017. This is something that Theresa May has been | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
noncommittal about publicly, so it is interesting that he would say she | :04:53. | :04:55. | |
was open and honest and said it would likely happen in January or | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
February. Wages are priced? Some people said we have got to get the | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
French and German elections out of the way. We have got these huge | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
milestones next year to get through. On the other hand, growing | :05:12. | :05:13. | |
impatience from the other European countries to get going. How long can | :05:14. | :05:19. | |
they continue? There was a strong message from Donald Tusk today, he | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
said his job was to preserve the interests of the remaining 27, not | :05:24. | :05:29. | |
Britain, to get the best deal for the 27, he has taken a tough line | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
with London, he will not be pushed into discussing this until London | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
works out what they want. You spoke about symbolism, the 27 flags of the | :05:38. | :05:47. | |
EU, no union Jack. It is a striking symbol, with the absence of Britain, | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
and a sense of the new reality for the EU. John Claude Junker said | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
freedom of movement is not on the negotiating table, you have got to | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
offer that if you want access to the single market. I have heard that | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
from the EU, it will be tough to row back from that. Exactly, everybody | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
says they will not compromise on what they want. There will be clear | :06:11. | :06:17. | |
winners and losers, unless there is softer talk before they go into | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
their rooms and stop negotiating. There will be mixed views from | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
different states, some want a soft Brexit, as little Brexit as | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
possible, including Germany, Angela Merkel wants to do the best deal | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
with Britain, but others want to send a stronger message, France, | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
Italy. They will have to see a consensus. Donald Tusk will have to | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
take account of all of these different countries and what they | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
believe should be the right relationship. Lots of viewers have | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
said, what will happen to the border between the Republic of Ireland and | :06:53. | :06:55. | |
Northern Ireland? I have not heard any detailed discussion of this at | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
all. The Irish Taoiseach was here, he mentioned that. One of the themes | :07:00. | :07:06. | |
was about securing the external border, and if Brexit happens, it | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
will have a new external border in Northern Ireland. It is complex. A | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
lot of political support to try and get some kind of solution, but | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
experts would say it is a highly technical issue, and it rests on | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
whether Britain leads the customs union or not. If it does, we could | :07:26. | :07:31. | |
be looking at some kind of border being reconstructed. We will come | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
back with you across the programme. If you have questions for our | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
guests, use the hashtag. Brexit has been an issue, but it has not | :07:45. | :07:45. | |
dominated this summit, it is a dominated this summit, it is a | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
year it has been that there are year it has been that there are | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
other issues demanding the attention of the EU's leaders. They surveyed | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
their citizens, asking them what they cared about, these are some of | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
the results. 19% said the economy as being one of their concerns. 39% | :08:04. | :08:12. | |
listed terrorism. 48% listed the issue of immigration. You can argue | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
the migrant crisis is the biggest single challenge. It is proving a | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
challenge to find unified positions. I have highlighted four countries, | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary. All of them have | :08:29. | :08:37. | |
resisted the EU's quota system. The EU has already signed off the | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
system, different countries take different amounts of migrants in, | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
much of them are currently in Greece and Italy. These four say, you can | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
tell us to do what you like, we will not take them in. The host of this | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
summit, the Prime Minister of Slovakia, said, Slovakia will not | :08:56. | :09:03. | |
accept one single Muslim migrant. Hungary will be holding a referendum | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
on whether to take this quota of migrants. The Government is not | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
sitting on the fence, these are some of the posters it spent millions of | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
euros putting all over the country, arguing for a vote against. Did you | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
know that Brussels want to settle a city of illegal immigrants in | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
Hungary? Did you know that the Paris attacks were committed by | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
immigrants? Some of you have used the BBC hashtag and getting me on | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Twitter. First, this question. What are they going to do? They have | :09:35. | :09:57. | |
got a plan, but some of their members say they are not doing it. | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
Hungary and Slovakia have brought the commission to court about this, | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
that is how strongly they feel. The numbers are small, we have to | :10:06. | :10:12. | |
remember, only the tip of the iceberg in the numbers that have to | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
be re-settled. The other advantage, the EU/ Turkey deal has actually | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
succeeded in a lot of ways. It has reduced the numbers of refugees. It | :10:22. | :10:29. | |
has Dundee East you's work for it. The German Chancellor is quietly | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
happy this was the right move to make and we may not see the same | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
levels of immigration that we saw last year. If we were not aware of | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
the political schism within the EU, this issue has brought it into | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
everyone's view. It has become a story of North against the South, | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
the Southfield they are being unprotected. And East against West, | :10:53. | :11:00. | |
with the border with Turkey on the east, Bulgaria, they found that they | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
would get 200 more border guards, which is a big victory for them, | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
they share a border with Turkey, so it has become a matter of | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
geopolitical priorities. The message from Donald Tusk was a show of | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
unity, that is what the EU wanted to portray, so in the last two days he | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
visited Warsaw, Budapest, to get these countries on board. Even | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
during the week we saw John Claude Junker talk about imposing refugee | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
quotas voluntarily, he is moving back a bit from his language from | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
last year, an olive branch to some of the Eastern countries. Let's pull | :11:39. | :11:41. | |
up a couple more. This is not quite as contentious as | :11:42. | :11:57. | |
it might seem, it is an informal summit, a gathering of leaders, but | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
they cannot adopt any formal policy for the EU without the UK being | :12:03. | :12:07. | |
present. The UK will be present at more formal summit before it | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
accepts, and the 28 will have to agree. But we should say the UK | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
Government is not quibbling with the idea that the 27 countries it will | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
leave behind have the right to meet and plot a future without the UK. It | :12:23. | :12:27. | |
is not quite as controversial as it might seem. | :12:28. | :12:35. | |
Not that many! If you went around this summit and said two people, | :12:36. | :12:45. | |
would you accept it is a serious crisis for the EU, the vast majority | :12:46. | :12:52. | |
would say yes, it is a crisis. If you ask the same group of people, | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
you think the EU will disintegrate, and equally high majority would say | :12:58. | :13:04. | |
no. Nobody can contemplate the idea of the EU not continuing, certainly | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
not those in Government of the 27 member states that will be left. The | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
comparison with the Titanic is limited. The intention is to make | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
the EU work. Use the hashtag if you have any questions. We still have 15 | :13:22. | :13:29. | |
minutes on BBC News. A bit later, we will talk in detail about arguably | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
the two most important countries, France and Germany, and their | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
leaders, who are coming under increasing political pressure at | :13:40. | :13:40. | |
home. Rescue teams have no idea how many | :13:41. | :14:02. | |
people have died. We will give them whatever we have got. | :14:03. | :14:11. | |
It looked as though they had come to fight a war, but their mission is to | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
bring peace to East Timor, nowhere on earth needs it more badly. | :14:18. | :14:22. | |
The Government's case has been presented by the justice minister. | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
He has campaigned vigorously for abolition. Having once witnessed one | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
of his clients being executed. She spent much of her time at this | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
grotto, hundreds of pilgrimages are made here. It is expected this area | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
will be inundated with tourists. The mayor and local businessmen regard | :14:42. | :14:45. | |
the boom is yet another blessing of Saint Elizabeth. | :14:46. | :14:55. | |
Welcome back. We are live in Bratislava. At the end of a day | :14:56. | :15:04. | |
where we have seen an informal European summit. 27 country leaders | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
have come together to offer unity and a vision of what the EU can | :15:12. | :15:19. | |
become when Brexit occurs. The message from the EU is that when | :15:20. | :15:26. | |
Duncan -- the negotiations start, they will be for the benefit of the | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
EU, but the negotiations can start tomorrow if the UK is ready. | :15:31. | :15:37. | |
One of the things which has been acknowledged by European leaders is | :15:38. | :15:40. | |
the need for the EU to restate what it does for its member states and | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
its citizens. The single biggest issue is finance, needs to make the | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
case it improves the finances of its member countries and of all EU | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
citizens. The problem is, all these years on from the global economic | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
crisis, it is still struggling to get its economy back contract. I | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
could have picked out any number of statistics. In Greece, youth | :16:05. | :16:12. | |
unemployment remains over 50%. A lot of people have been talking about | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
Portugal, if you look at it economic growth between the first quarter of | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
last year and the first quarter of this year, it is 0.2%, well below | :16:21. | :16:25. | |
what the EU would want and the Portuguese Government would want. | :16:26. | :16:28. | |
The equivalent figure for Italy is not much better. 0.3%. That is | :16:29. | :16:35. | |
creating huge pressures on those countries. To understand this | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
better, I turn to some colleagues in the press centre. | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
Given the fact I have 30 seconds, I will start from the debt. The | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
Italian debt is the third worst in the world. To cut the debt, Italy | :16:48. | :16:56. | |
needs to increase the GMP, but to increase that they need reforms. To | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
do the reforms, they need stability from the political and institutional | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
point of view. The task is quite big, but it can be done, because the | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
deficit is under control and the economy is quite fair. The | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
unemployed and freight is still high, as in other countries, but | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
this is a major preoccupation, because you still have Portuguese | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
people leaving the country and going to the UK, Belgium, France, to find | :17:30. | :17:38. | |
better jobs and higher wages, because in Portugal the wages are | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
not that high compared to other European countries. This must be a | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
very important issue for the Government. The biggest economic | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
challenge that Greece is facing the high unemployment, we have the | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
highest in the EU, about 26%. It is a country that has been worn out of | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
the recession, we have been about seven years in recession, the third | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
programme that we are going through, the third time that we have borrowed | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
money from our European partners, and people seem to be tired, they | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
have paid so much taxes, many people have lost their jobs, and still they | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
don't see the light at the end of the tunnel. | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
The economy is preoccupying leaders, but so is the issue of security. | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
Let's break that down into three elements. First, terrorism. The | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
threat has been highlighted by recent attacks. We have had further | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
commitments from member states are able better cooperate on issues of | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
intelligence. The second point, the external borders. Fresh investment | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
today in how those borders are patrolled, particular emphasis on | :18:56. | :18:57. | |
the border between Bulgaria and Turkey. Then, the proposal for a new | :18:58. | :19:04. | |
EU military headquarters. The military headquarters, how | :19:05. | :19:17. | |
realistic is that? A lot of the proposals will be limited enough. | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
The EU cannot just plough on with new big plans, it needs to be done | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
within their treaties. Not all member states are in favour of this, | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
six states are not members of Nato, they would be concerned, my own | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
country included, Austria, about the EU increasing its capacity. But | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
there is huge support from the bigger countries, France, Germany | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
and Italy. John Claude Young cats talked about and EU army, officials | :19:47. | :19:53. | |
say we are no -- nowhere near that, but Brexit has put the issue closer | :19:54. | :19:59. | |
together, because the UK are posted. There was the idea of a European | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
defence agency in the Lisbon Treaty and has not been used, but they are | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
talking about creating one now. The Lisbon Treaty gives a lot of room | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
for defence capabilities. A lot of the countries will try to exploit | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
that as much as possible, because the UK has been the one to put the | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
stop to that. In terms of the fresh moves on the border between Bulgaria | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
and Turkey, some people will think the migrant crisis has gone on for | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
well over a year, why is it only happening now? Officials have | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
worried there is a specific problem emerging there. A lot of focus has | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
been on Greece and coming through the sea, back in 2013 a lot of | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
migrants came through Bulgaria, the Bulgarian Government have been | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
strong on this, they have asked for more resources, and they have got | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
that today. We will talk again in a couple of minutes. We are live in | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
Bratislava at the end of a day when there has been an informal summit | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
for the 27 members of the EU who will be left when the UK leads. A | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
strong message from Donald Tusk, do not see Brexit is something specific | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
to the UK that has no relevance to the rest of Europe. Look across the | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
continent, you will see scepticism in lots of different forms, and it | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
is to be taken seriously. Here is a tweet from one of you. | :21:25. | :21:33. | |
This is a really important point. This is the map of France and | :21:34. | :21:41. | |
Germany. The AFD is a party which pushed Angela Merkel's party into | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
third place, and anti-emigration, anti-EU party. It is polling very | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
well. 15%. In France, the front National has been a longer political | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
force, polling at around 27%. There are major elections in Germany and | :22:03. | :22:04. | |
France next year, it puts pressure on Angela Merkel and Francois | :22:05. | :22:12. | |
Hollande. They were both holding a joint press conference, something | :22:13. | :22:14. | |
they have not done at the end of an EU summit before, a couple of hours | :22:15. | :22:18. | |
ago. Let me play you some of what they were saying. | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
TRANSLATION: We agreed, all of us, now that we are in such a critical | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
situation, after the referendum in Britain, but also in view of the | :22:32. | :22:37. | |
other difficulties we have... TRANSLATION: The remaining 27 had to | :22:38. | :22:42. | |
bring about some new perspectives to Europe. Europe must and can move | :22:43. | :22:53. | |
forward, as long as Europe has clear priorities and as long as these | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
priorities meet the expectations of the citizens. Security, protection | :22:57. | :23:06. | |
and the future of our youth. I have mentioned through the | :23:07. | :23:09. | |
programme that may be the number one priority was to offer a unified | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
front to the rest of the world. They have done pretty well, but they have | :23:14. | :23:21. | |
not quite managed it perfectly. The Italian Prime Minister has come out | :23:22. | :23:23. | |
and commented about the press conference with Angela Merkel and | :23:24. | :23:24. | |
from SWAT Lond. What is he referring to? He was | :23:25. | :23:43. | |
hoping to speak more about flexibility in the budgets in the | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
growth and stability Pact. Italy has huge amounts of debt, and they were | :23:50. | :23:57. | |
hoping to hear more from the other leaders about making making | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
exceptions for investments, about education, the other issue is that | :24:03. | :24:07. | |
he felt they did not tackle migration and the way that he wanted | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
them to, because he feels like people are honouring the Dublin | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
Treaty and the migrants are coming to Sicily, he is being stuck with | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
more migrants, and they are not being redistributed, and it feels | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
like he cannot win either side. Graham asks, would it be better for | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
the UK to wait until after the German and French elections, because | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
they might have Government in place then who are more amicable in their | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
approach to the negotiations? That is arguable, but the German | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
Chancellor is one of the best friends Britain has got when it | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
comes to negotiations. There is a new leader in Germany, things could | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
be different. It might be better for Britain to get the negotiations | :24:52. | :24:56. | |
started while she is still in power. I think Germany will play a key | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
role, as it always does. It is all about domestic politics, the Italian | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
Prime Minister has a referendum, he is playing to his domestic audience. | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
The EU have tried to say, we are ready to set out proposals, but with | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
these big issues in France and Germany, next year it will be hard | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
for it to do that. The Italian but his entire career on the line, if he | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
loses this referendum in a few months, he will not be at the table. | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
A lot of the leaders may not be at the table in a year, so it is | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
interesting, they need to come back winners or Ilott is on the line. Lee | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
says, what is the chance of France or the Netherlands opting out of the | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
EU? Very low, but then I thought the chances of being standing here in | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
Bratislava witnessing an informal summit without the UK as a | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
reasonably low, and here we are, so I have giving up making predictions. | :25:56. | :26:00. | |
We are back in the studio next week, goodbye. | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
The last few dregs of what was Typhoon Morandi are clearing the way | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
from eastern | :26:12. | :26:12. |