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Our top story comes from Germany, a lorry has been driven into a

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Christmas market in Burling. These are live pictures. Police say nine

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people have been killed, 50 others injured. We will have ongoing

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coverage -- Berlin. The gunmen shouted a message about

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Aleppo, immediately after firing the shots.

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If you are just joining us, let me update you on what is happening in

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Berlin. A Christmas market in Berlin has, according to police, been

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attacked. A truck has been driven into it. The market was just in

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front of Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church. You can see its South and

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South West of the Brandenburg gate. The police department of Berlin have

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been a primary source of information on this. A tweet in German says that

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we can confirm that nine people have died and many more are injured. One

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useful person to follow on this person is Philip Alterman, quoting

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that police say the driver fled the scene. One suspect has been arrested

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about 100 metres away. A second person in the cab died of injuries

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on the scene. That is worth emphasising that it is

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ported by local media. As you imagine, the whole area is secured

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and sealed off. A lot of emergency services and police at the scene.

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We are told by German police that there is no imminent threat in the

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area around this church and where the Christmas market was taking

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place. We also know German police are advising all Berliners to stay

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in. While they are saying there is no threat, they are saying not to

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leave your hands. Some local reports say there were

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two passengers, and that a codriver died in the incident. I was

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mentioning a moment ago that there are multiple reports of one person

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exiting the cab of the truck, and then being arrested. A little

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earlier I spoke to the deputy editor of a newspaper, who was on his way

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home when this happened. He saw the aftermath.

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I was on my way back home. I was right on the other side of the

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street from the place where the Christmas market is. I hear a loud

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noise, the houses were destroyed by the truck, I heard some screens and

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that was the first impression. I don't have site of the truck

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coming from which direction, but then I heard the noise and the

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screams. I went to the other side of the place, and decided to make a

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live video on Facebook, which we have on our side now. It was really

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horrible what you can see there, the live pictures from Nice. The people

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on the ground, and some other people taking care of them.

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While you were filming, what did you see?

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I saw the broken houses. I saw many destroyed glass on the ground,

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fluids, it could be red wine or blood, I don't really know. I saw

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some people lying on the ground, and also some people under the truck. It

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was really horrible. It was chaotic, as you can imagine.

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How busy would this area be on an evening like this so close to

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Christmas? Yes, a really busy place. We have

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Christmas markets in Berlin. It is not the most popular, but it is in

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the western part of the city, and is really popular. There are churches

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nearby and it is a busy place. The people go after work to have some

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wine, hot red wine or white wine, and to talk to friends and have some

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fun. How quickly did the emergency

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services arrive after you saw the aftermath of the truck coming into

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the market? At the Christmas market in Berlin,

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there are some police officers for security as standard. As we now

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know, the police officers that were there, there were two people in the

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front of the truck. One is -- escaped. There were very many

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officers, yeah. A number of you are getting in touch

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with various questions and points on this story. Giovanni says, why are

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you referring to the incident as an attack? The reason we use the word

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attack is because the local police say they believe this is most likely

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to be a terrorist attack. It's their phraseology that we'd take a lead

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from. "You Need to check the UK Foreign Office website because it

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has an update on it. This is the Foreign Office website."

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There is a high threat from terrorism. Attacks could be

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indiscriminate, including in public places visited by foreigners.

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This is the British Foreign Office. It is worth saying what we heard

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from Richard Lister a while ago that the Americans already had advice for

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Americans travelling to Western Europe, that they needed to take

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care in busy places around Christmas that could potentially be a threat.

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Or a target, I should say. A couple of other updates, more coming in

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from the Berlin police, "Facebook has activated its safety check

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feature, use it to find out if your loved ones are safe". Reports of

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their being meeting points for relatives being close to the

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Christmas markets where authorities are giving out information.

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Another update from the police. This is the best source of information we

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have got at the moment. "A Suspicious person was arrested near

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Breitscheidplatz. Whether it is the driver of the truck is currently

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under it investigation." Despite the police saying there is

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no ongoing security situation, they are still telling Berliners to stay

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indoors this evening. Let's speak to another guest on this

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story. We have a security expert at the University of Keele in Germany.

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Professor, thank you for your time. Give us your thoughts on what is

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happening in Berlin. It looks like this was a terrorist

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attack although the police are not totally sure, but everything

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indicates that this is something similar to the attack that we have

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seen in Nice in the summer of this year. This kind of attack is usually

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described as a possible way of attacking. It looks like this was an

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attack and it was a very bloody one. I am afraid there might be even more

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had people coming out. I was mentioning that the Americans

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have advice for American tourists and business people in Germany, do

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you think the German authorities were focused on the possibility of

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an attack of this nature? There were warnings in the past, in

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particular with regard to Christmas markets, but there are many

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Christmas markets in Berlin, and it is almost impossible to keep them

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all secure. In particular, you might help by building up roadblocks, but

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this has not been done here, and it is quite difficult in this place. I

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know Breitscheidplatz very well, it is a very huge place, and it is in

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between two very crowded streets. It is hardly possible to seal it off.

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You say you know this part of Berlin well, most of us don't know it so

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well, can you give us an idea of how easy or difficult it might be to get

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a truck into the position where we can see at this evening?

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It's really easily done, you just have to take one of the big streets

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and simply turned the wheel to the right or to the left, and go through

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the Christmas market. This was a really big truck. It obviously was a

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truck with steel loaded, so it was very heavy. This is one of the

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places to attack if you wanted many people. It is quite easy to do this.

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While you look at what is happening in Berlin, and we also look at what

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happened in Nice, although we don't know how close the parallels are, it

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is very difficult to know how to respond to these events, because as

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you have been describing, they are almost impossible to stop.

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It is almost impossible to stop. What you can do, where we have had

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similar experience in the past, is having as many roadblocks as

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possible. That is the way to secure such places. We have to make efforts

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in this regard, or one has two seal it off, it costs a lot of money, but

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you have to be aware of this. I'm afraid that this kind of

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awareness was not there, but I might be wrong.

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Stay with us if we can, Professor. I want to reiterate the story to

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people just joining us. There has been a fatal incident in

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Burling. A truck is driven into a Christmas market close to a very

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well-known church close to the centre of Burling. Police say nine

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people have lost their lives. -- Berlin. Police are telling people in

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Berlin to stay inside. People saying not to call it a terrorist attack,

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but police have said that they suspect that this truck was

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deliberately driven into this Christmas market. Word they are

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using is attack, but clearly a number of people were seeing this as

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an act of terrorism. We are not saying it is due to radical Islam is

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because there is no evidence that we have seen of that being the case at

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this moment. Let's remind you of how the local

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press in Germany is covering this story. "Terror In Berlin" you can

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see, nine dead, 50 injured. This is an image that you will see in lots

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of newspapers tomorrow morning, I am certain of that. The area where the

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Christmas garden was happening. You can see the lights... Christmas

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market. Again, another lead on this story. A

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close-up of the cab of the truck. You can see how badly damaged the

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front of the truck is, not just with the windscreen not in, but the front

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of the truck also damage. A reminder, or the police say that one

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person got out of the truck and left it, but was apprehended. There are

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also reports in local media that one person died in the truck. We don't

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know the circumstances in which that person lost their life.

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Again, leading on what is happening in Germany, but also covering the

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assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey. We will turn

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to that story in a minute. A couple of other things to remind you of if

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you want to see how the British Foreign Office has responded to the

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story, it has posted new advice on its website. The BBC has a live page

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being run through the BBC News app and the BBC News website. That is

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the latest we have on the situation in Berlin. We are to some degree

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will iron on the information being provided to us by the Berlin police.

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They are tweeting updates. We will keep you updated on that and speak

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to people at the scene, and we are gathering information from people

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directly affected. Let's turn to another hugely

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significant story, we have new bits of information coming in all the

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time, this from Reuters, Turkey's Minister says a joint commission

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will be formed to investigate the Russian ambassador's death.

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We can also see quotes that have come through as well. This is

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Vladimir Putin: Let's speak to my two colleagues

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from BBC Turkey and BBC Russia. A provocation is a reference to the

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fact that recently relationships between Turkey and Russia were not

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good. Yes, they were in deep crisis in

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November when Turkey shot down a Russian jet, allegedly, because of

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the violation of the Turkish airspace, and experts said it was

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because Russia bombed turkeys in Syria, and Turkish clients, for that

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matter. But then this summer, taking it more widely, after the

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negotiations of the two president, President Putin and President

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Erdogan. They have now been more sites, like the statement of blood

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amid Putin and other Russian officials, as well as Turkish

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officials, that the two parties now are not going to let relationship

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flourished again. By doing Putin says it was a

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provocation. Do we have insight into what motivated this man?

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There is an operation going on right now in Turkey. The family and

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friends of gunmen are in custody by now. It is right that Putin and have

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threw are in talks. After the incident, they had a phone

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conversation. After the incident, Vladimir Putin said it was a

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provocation. Tim threw also said it was a provocation.

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Did you say that his family and friends are in detention?

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They are being questioned by the police about the relationship to

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other organisations. What kind of security would have

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been at an art gallery attended by a Russian ambassador?

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Normally, in that kind of event, the Eraso many guards, and the security

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level is really high, especially recently. But they say that the

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Russian ambassador is known to be going to these events without

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security guards. -- there are many guards.

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They were saying that it is very good that the Russian ambassador is

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going alone to that kind of event. It shows how he feels secure

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himself. But we saw that there are some incidents going on.

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As far as I understand, actually, under the Vienna Convention, the

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diplomatic is not guarded without special request. So no heightened

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security. We know that Vladimir Putin and

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president Tim threw get on very well, but they have -- Prime

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Minister Erdogan, but the gunman highlighted the fact that the two

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countries don't agree. They are speaking about the

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provocation and trying to drive a wedge into the Turkish- Russian

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relationships, Russia does not have many allies at

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the moment. They do need to preserve the relationship. Back in the day,

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in different circumstances, the killing of the ambassador would have

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been... but this is not the case. Broadly, the security challenges the

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Turkey huge, aren't they. They come from so many different sources.

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There are so many events happening, and in Turkey, there are different

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organisations in Turkey that caused danger.

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So it is a problem right now, it's true.

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That is translating into President Erdogan's tactics with regards to

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security, after the attempted coup. For sure, right now there is a high

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security level in Turkey. For example, when we come to the first

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question of yours about relations between Turkey and Russia, we can

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say that there was an emphasis that the corporation

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is still going on. There is also a meeting tomorrow with uranium,

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Russian and Turkish Foreign ministers. Some analysts relate the

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incident to that meeting tomorrow Iranians.

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How can they respond to it? At the moment, they are just words,

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not hollow words, but we can't speculate on the meaning. The

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terrorist perpetrators will be punished.

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Both of you, thank you in much. We appreciate your time today, and

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those of you that have the relevant language skills, you can get this

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story covered through BBC Turkey and BBC Russia. I spotted a tweet coming

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in from one of you watching, claiming, let me see if I can find

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it, here we go, Jeremy saying, "The Muslim terrorist who murdered the

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Russian ambassador, " what he shouted has been reported by

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multiple sources, including the BBC. Thank you for your tweets.

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These are the latest pictures coming in from Berlin. They show you the

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scene from a little while ago as the emergency services arrived at this

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Christmas market in Berlin, into which a truck has been driven. As

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you can see, a huge, huge response from the services there, and the

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police there. The police, by the way, saying that nine people, at

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least nine people have lost their lives, at least 50 are injured, but

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there is no ongoing security situation. Local media spoke to one

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British man at the scene who saw what happened.

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We were in the market outside the Cathedral, and as we were leaving,

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the large truck came through. It went just passed me and my

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girlfriend, it missed me by three metres, missing her by five. It came

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in through the entrance, hitting the sides of the barriers and carried on

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past us. I did not see any concrete pollard

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is like this driving in. We had them in Birmingham to stop that.

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Definitely people got injured. I spoke to two people lying on the

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floor with broken limbs, but they were going to be OK. I saw one guy

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being dragged away with blood on his face. I helped several other people

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lived beside of one of the stalls up.

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Let's just reiterate where this all has happened. It's a place to the

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south in the centre of Berlin, close to the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial

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Church. South-west of the Brandenburg gate. We have some

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important details coming in from various police statements, and

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increasingly from city authorities as well.

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Let me update you on that. This is the police saying that nine have

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lost their lives, this is also important from the bureau chief

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saying, "Police say driver fled the scene, but suspect has been arrested

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about 100 metres away. The second person in the cab died of injuries

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on the scene". One quoted a city official, saying that it is not

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clear what the circumstances of what the attack was, it could be an

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accident or an attack. It does not sit precisely with what the police

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have been saying. Here you go, this is the tweet that came through:.

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That's not in line with what the police have been saying in the last

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couple of hours. This is also interesting, recently the German

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police say that to protect the privacy please do not spread videos

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from this Christmas market. I have been on the television for the last

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hour, before I came onto the television, there weren't a huge

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amount of images being shared, the same couple being shared a lot. This

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is the police in Berlin saying:. That's in line with the police

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advice to stay indoors if you are in Berlin. Thank you for watching, the

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story continues to evolve. No doubt, we will get more information in the

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next few minutes. Buy buy. The weather is about to turn pretty

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wild as we enter the stormiest period of the winter so

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