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One of Donald Trump's closest aides has been reprimanded

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Kellyanne Conway promoted the clothing range of

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the President's daughter in a live interview, something federal

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Meanwhile Donald Trump says these comments about his pick

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and on and on and on and poor comments made by President Trump

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about the judiciary -- he is disheartened and do moralised by the

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comments President Trump made about the judiciary.

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A colleague has confirmed that Neil Gorsuch made the comments,

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Also South Africa's president has been giving his annual state

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of the nation address - not everyone is happy

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You are constitutional delinquent. You have to leave!

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And then things got more heated, as members of the Economic Freedom

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Fighters party fought with security guards who ejected

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We will run you through that extraordinary series of events.

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This is the world's biggest refugee camp in Kenya.

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It was going to be closed by the government, but the country's

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We will talk you through that with the help of our correspondent in

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Nairobi. And if you want to get

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in touch - #BBCOS. As we do on every programme,

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here is a full update on what's been happening in the Trump

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administration in the last 24 hours: First, Kellyanne Conway -

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she's a White House special advisor, she's definitely in Donald Trump's

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inner circle, and according to the White House she's been

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reprimanded for comments she made It's all related to a story that

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starts with this tweet "My daughter Ivanka has been treated

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so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person -

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always pushing me to The president was taking issue

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with a retailer for dropping his Next that tweet was retweeted

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by the @POTUS account. So that's the official Twitter

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feed of the President of America pushing out opinion

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on an individual business decision. That was yesterday, then today

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Kellyanne Conway went onto Fox News and said,

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"Go buy Ivanka's stuff. I'm going to go get

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some myself today," "I'm going to give a free commercial

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here: Go buy it today, everybody." I do not have the rights to play you

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that clip but I can show you the court.

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And it's that which has got her this summons.

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We can now speak to Anthony Zurcher in Washington.

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Same old story. How much trouble is she in? There is a federal law which

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pretty much speaks directly to this, which says "An employee shall not

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use his public office for his private gain or the endorsement of

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any products, service or enterprise." So when Kellyanne

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Conway stands and says you should go out and buy the Nordstrom product

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that is pretty clearly a violation of this federal law. The way this

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has been handled in the past usually is for a supervisor, someone within

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the agency, to recommend that employee, possibly block their pay

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and some sort of suspension, so the curious thing here is it would have

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to be Trump's and White House punishing Kellyanne Conway, and the

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question is whether Donald Trump himself or someone in the senior

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staff would be willing to sanction Kellyanne Conway for comments that

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were basically in line with what the president himself had just As many

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as are of the opinion, say 'aye'. To the contrary, 'no'.. Presumably

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there is no chance of Donald Trump being sanctioned? -- the president

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himself had just tweeted. No, the president cannot be sanction, but

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there could be an adverse action towards a specific company, so

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opened himself up to lawsuits. The curious thing is Kellyanne Conway,

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the with these comments, and it kind of came off as a joking aside at the

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end of the interview, but with these comments everyone all of a sudden is

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speaking about Kellyanne Conway, from Democrats, to good government

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people, to Republicans, so she is catching the heat that the president

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was just yesterday. Imagine a destroyer pulling up between an

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incoming torpedo and aircraft carrier. She sacrifices herself but

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the main ship survives. All right, taking one for the team. Here is

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another story. Neil Gorsuch is Donald Trump's

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nominee for Supreme Court. This is Democratic Senator

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Richard Blumenthal. He says Mr Gorsuch told him

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that Mr Trump's recent comments on the judiciary

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are "disheartening My strong hope is that he will be

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more vehement publicly. He certainly expressed to me

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that he is disheartened by the demoralising and abhorrent

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comments made by President Trump Next - enter the

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president on Twitter. @RealDonaldTrump -

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"Sen.Richard Blumenthal, who never fought in Vietnam

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when he said for years he had, now misrepresents

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what Judge Gorsuch told him?" Combative comments

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from the president. Let's do an Outside Source Fact

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Check on those claims. We know that former Republican

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senator Kelly Ayotte, who is helping with Mr Gorsuch's

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confirmation, issued a statement saying the comments were not

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referring to any specific case but that he finds any criticism

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of a judge's integrity and independence to be

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"disheartening and demoralising." So that backs up that

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the words were used, though it's not the same

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as Mr Gorsuch saying so. I guess that means we cannot be too

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precise about whether the president is right or wrong? Right, it is all

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second-hand information, and what I think this will do is increase the

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pressure on judge Gorsuch to either confirm or deny he said that

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personally. I imagine at the Senate confirmation hearings for is just a

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ship he will be asked directly, do you agree with what Donald Trump is

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doing with his immigration order in questioning the judgment of

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so-called judges, and he will have to answer that or dodge it, but in

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the background there will be these stories about how he has already

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told people with the cameras running that this was a problem. He has not

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denied it but been silent so far but I am not sure he will be able to

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stay silent too much longer. OK, so the president attacking a Democratic

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senator. A major retailer, and now...

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Donald Trump has also attacked Senator John McCain,

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who is one of the most senior Republicans.

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Senator McCain said a recent operation in Yemen wasn't a success.

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We actually discuss that on Outside Source yesterday, that operation.

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Trump told NBC News "When you lose a $75 million airplane

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-- john McCain told NBC News. I don't believe you can

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We might add that 12 civilians including children were also killed.

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McCain should not be talking about the success or failure

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He went on to described a 'winning mission'.

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These two have formed? Yes, this goes back to the beginning of Donald

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Trump's presidential campaign when he questioned John McCain's heroism.

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John McCain of course is a decorated hero, fought in Vietnam, a prisoner

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of war, but Donald Trump said, "I prefer my he was not to be

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captured." And at the same everyone thought it was ridiculous, Donald

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Trump has done it now and his presidential campaign will collapse.

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Of course it didn't it went on and John McCain eventually came around

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and somewhat supported Donald Trump's presidential campaign but

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obviously there is a lot of tension and bad blood still there and as

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soon as John McCain said something, Donald Trump was very quick to fire

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off a number of tweets this morning pushing back. Thank you very much,

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Anthony, live with us from Washington. Well, that was American

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democracy. This is what South Africa's

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democracy looked like today. President Zuma gave his State

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of the Union speech. Before things got physical,

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the verbal attacks started coming. Sitting in front of us here, is a

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man... You're out of order. And incorrigible man, brought in, and

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that has been found by the Constitutional court, and this

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story... A majority to keep him, but it doesn't make him a legitimate

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president! Mr Zuma has collapsed his own right to address us here. Mr

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President, 441 soldiers to protect you...

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That was the leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters party -

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After a number of disturbances, security guards were called,

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He was being called an honourable member but we will judge how

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honourable -- I will let you judge how honourable he was...

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The people in white are security guards. You would have seen a major

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right hook going in from one of the EFF members as they were escorted

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out. If the EFF members left

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in the middle of a scrum. The biggest opposition

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party, the Democratic As we speak there are military

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personnel with rifles in combat fatigues on the parliamentary

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precinct. There are a riot police lining the streets outside and on

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the precinct right outside this building. Our guests, they have been

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it with some form of tear gas. Madame Houster, Madam Speaker, no

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democracy should have to witness what we are witnessing in this

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house. This man has broken South Africa. You are breaking the

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Parliament. After that the Democratic Alliance's members watch

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out. They had lots of disagreements with President Zuma, but they said

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they had militarised an area with Lee Grant that should have no

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military presence. That was going on inside Parliament but if that was

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not enough, this was going on outside... Supporters of the

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government, the ANC government, plus supporters of the EFF and the DA,

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the two main opposition groups, and police had to use stun guns to

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disperse the crowds, so that also spiked, and in the middle of all of

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this president Gorsuch did also give his speech. Here's one part... In

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these 20, 30 years of our freedom, our mission remains. Our quest for a

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united democratic nonsexist nonracial and prosperous South

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Africa. Guided by the National development plan, we are building a

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South Africa that must be free from poverty, inequality and

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unemployment. Whilst the global economic environment remains

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uncertain, indications are that we have entered a period of recovery.

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The last point to make is that the president is not just under pressure

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from the opposition. He is under pressure from some people within his

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own party, the ANC. The ANC has been in power since the beginning of

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democracy in South Africa, 1994 and end of apartheid. Some people in the

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ANC think there is too much corruption, too much bad governance

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and there is a risk they could lose the next election, hence the huge

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pressure on the president from within own party as well as from the

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opposing parties. Stay with us because coming up

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we have a report from the US It was a year ago today that

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Donald Trump claimed victory The BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan went

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to find out how voters Official figures

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show only 86% of A patients in England were dealt

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with within four hours in December. That's the lowest

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since the 95% target Provisional data leaked to the BBC

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has also suggested the performance Our health editor Hugh Pym explains

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the extent of the pressures for emergency departments

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across the UK. It was 86.2%, the worst since

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records began in 2004. Scotland was actually higher, 92.6%. Wheels down

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at 81% and Northern Ireland just below 70%, so the same pressures

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everywhere -- Wales were down. Different bits of the UK reacting in

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slightly different ways. Let me quote another statistic. Almost

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500,000 emergency admissions to hospitals in England in December,

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another record high. This is Outside Source live

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from the BBC newsroom. Key Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway

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has been reprimanded by the White House after she promoted

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a clothing range owned Miss Conway told a breakfast

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television programme to "go Her comments have been labelled over

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the line and unacceptable. -- Now to some of the main stories

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from BBC World Service... The International Committee

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of the Red Cross is temporarily suspending its aid programme

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in Afghanistan after an an attack on one of its convoys

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killed six staff dead. BBC Mundo reports that

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Julian Assange will be given a month's notice to leave

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the Ecuadorian embassy if the country's main

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opposition wins the presidency Guillermo Lasso is the candidate -

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he was talking to the Guardian. This man in Australia spent hours

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keep his head just above water after his digger toppled

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into a waterhole and then I cannot believe you haven't already

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seen this. He was rescued and there were no injuries. The good news.

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One of the reasons we've got a social media feed

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that is always available for me here is that Twitter has

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As you'll know it's Donald Trump's number one way to communicate.

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Many other public figures use it too.

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But here's the thing - Twitter is losing money.

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It has 319 million users worldwide, but since 2011,

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Today, it reported a loss of $167 million for the fourth

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And with a certain inevitability, its shares dropped nearly

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On the BBC North America Tech correspondent, live with us from the

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north coast. -- West Coast. An awful lot of money to be losing. What is

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Twitter spending it on? The losses have grown in the past year because

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they have been trying to invest in new ways to keep people on the

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platform, on Twitter, and also attract new people do it. They have

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been striking deals with the NFL to short-lived American football on

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Twitter. That does not seem to have increased engagement to the level

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they hoped it would. That is where they are spending the money, but

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having said that Twitter losing money has really been a problem for

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it. A Silicon Valley company losing money is almost just part of the

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package -- not really a problem for it. What has really been a problem

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is that user number you mention, just over 390 million users, active

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daily users, and that has barely moved over the past year, and the

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fact they are not growing at all really is a big problem for Twitter

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when you compare it to something like Facebook which has exploded

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over the last few years with 1.6 billion users, and 300 million or so

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does not see many at all because it is not. Thank you for that. Let's

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highlight a company making money. It's a little known start-up based

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in New York specialising in real In the past week shares

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in Snap have surged 95% - but that's because traders thought

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they were buying into the firm behind Snapchat,

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which is called Snap Inc. Don't take your microphone off yet,

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I am hoping to ask your question on this! How is this possible? Surely

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investors know who they are buying? You would think so, wouldn't you?

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LAUGHTER I think it just goes to show how

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excited investors are for the people who make Snapchat. Some people are

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getting ahead of themselves and investing in Snap Interactive,

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although an impressive company in its own write nothing near the $20

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billion evaluation Snapchat will eventually have when it opens. But I

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am sure Snap Interactive are not complaining about their lucky break!

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You can take off your microphone now, OK. They've live with us from

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silicon valley. We have spoken about Twitter. Next...

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The bosses of America's top airlines and airports met Donald Trump

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Top of the agenda - the US air traffic control system.

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He said, "I hear we're spending billions and billions of dollars,

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it's a system that's totally out of whack."

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You might need some help translating that one.

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What did he mean by that? LAUGHTER

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I think when it comes to the way the aviation system is run here in the

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US, he does make a good point, that it is quite outdated, and when it

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comes to air traffic control, they are slow to modernise. But what some

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airline executives have been saying to Mr Trump in this meeting, the

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best way to modernise is actually to privatise the air traffic control.

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Right now it is being governed by the FAA, the Federal aviation

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administration, usually the way it is done by most countries around the

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world. A Government oversight committee that really runs the

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traffic, but what some airline executives have been arguing with Mr

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Trump, and it seems he has taken to that argument, that they should

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actually outsource that an privatise it altogether. We know Mr Trump is

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very keen on keeping business in the US, so if it were privatised with

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that be privatised with American businesses prioritised? That is a

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big question. You know, nobody really knows. This is the first

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discussions about it. What has been said is that some of the structures

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of this private company that would exist, it would be nonprofit in

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nature, but what some of the executives were arguing, it would

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just allow things to move a lot faster in terms of being able to

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modernise and keep up with different technologies and different systems.

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Thank you very much, Samira, good to speak to you.

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A report now from Rajini Vaidyanathan in New Hampshire.

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Rajini's there because a year ago today Donald Trump claimed victory

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It was his first major step towards the White House.

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Hillary Clinton ended up taking the state in the election -

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but the President still has a lot of supporters there -

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Just like the person he voted for, Keith is a businessman who works in

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the hotel industry. I saw it all the way of... Owner of a small

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construction company, he is a registered independents does not

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vote along party lines. If he were a politician we would not have elected

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him. I would not have voted for him. He connected with the people of New

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Hampshire because of his spirit, his spirit of independent. Donald

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Trump's dreams of becoming president were built on his first victory in

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the Republican primary in this state. Now he is in office, Keith

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has no complaints. Have I disagreed with anything so far? No. I think he

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is doing exactly what they elected him to do. How many of you voted for

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Donald Trump in the New Hampshire primary? None of us. But by election

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day all but one of these Republican women voted for Donald Trump. They

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believe the president should be given a chance but there are

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divisions over policy like his temporary travel ban. It is a 90 day

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ban, it is like the demonstrators on the winning's what and everything

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they are doing, they are protesting before anything happens. There was

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not enough thought to the roll-out of that executive order and how it

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would affect people. Sometimes he comes across as crass and I think

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everyone of us you would admit to that, but like she said, give him a

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chance. President Donald Trump owes a lot to the state. He scored his

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first primary victory here, kicking off a winning streak and giving him

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momentum. But it is also here he got his first taste of presidential

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politics of the decade ago. He was thinking about the presidency. That

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was in his mind. Mike Dunbar, woodworker from new started at Trump

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campaign we back in 1987 to encourage the then 41-year-old to

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run for the White House. He even persuaded Mr Trump to make a speech

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in New Hampshire, where he ruled out a bid. It was Mr Trump's

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antiestablishment stance that appealed to Mike then and still does

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now. I think what cause me to vote for him both in the primary and the

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election is that I had experience with him in 1987 and I find that he

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did not change. He is the same guy. He waited for history to come around

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for his moment. He has shown an amazing display of leadership. It

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took me 30 years but I finally got what I wanted in 1987. And sordid

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Donald Trump. He lost the state of New Hampshire by a narrow margin in

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the General Election, but he won the big prize, in a journey that started

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here, in more ways than one. New Hampshire, I want to thank you. We

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love you. You started it. Remember, you started it. A minute left of

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this half of Outside Source. I will quickly show you a report from a

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Chinese village featuring a pretty impressive commute... Until recently

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a trip to work or school meant scaling and 800 metre cliff face.

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Have a look at this. Stay with us on Outside Source. In

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our sports section we will look at downhill mountain biking and

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downhill skateboarding. That is coming up in five-minutes' time.

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