13/02/2017 Outside Source

An Allied International news. President Trump has met the Canadian

Prime Minister in Washington, they have stressed their historical

bonds, their common causes, but they don't agree on anything ---

everything. We are going to get the bad ones, the really bad ones, we're

getting them out. We continue to pursue our policies of openness

towards immigration, refugees without compromising security. The

shift to its southern flank, we met the Mexicans who are already working

to reinforced its border. And the BBC has gone undercover in one of

Britain's biggest prisons. We will have a reality check on the North

American free-trade deal and what Donald Trump has been saying about

it. Well, let me show you Donald Trump

welcoming Justin Trudeau at the White House a little bit Elliott.

Satin chairs next to each other posing for some pictures and

exchanging pleasantries. Clearly, while those two were getting on in

that situation they disagree on a lot, immigration, security probably

been top of the list. Both issues came up at the joint press

conference, here are the answers. I said we would get out the criminals,

the drug lords, General Kelly he was sitting right here said he --- he is

doing a fantastic job. I've said from the beginning we would get the

bad ones, the really bad ones that is exactly what we are doing. I

think that in the end everyone will be very happy and I will tell you

now, a lot of people very happy right now. Canada has always

understood that keeping Canadian safe is one of the fundamental

responsibilities of any government and that is certainly something we

are focused on. At the same time, we continue to pursue our policy of

openness towards immigration, refugees without compromising

security. Part of the reason that we have been successful in doing that

over the past year close welcoming close to 40,000 Syrian refugees is

because we have been coordinating with our allies around the world, to

demonstrate the security comes very seriously to others and that is

something that we can continue to deal with. Let's bring in the BBC,

what did you make that? They were trying to emphasise here what they

have in common they are each of the's largest export market so trade

and the economy is high on everyone's mind when it comes to

this but you could tell from that conversation that they have

decidedly different ideas about the importance of being able to bring in

refugees, immigration, that answer that Donald Trump had was in

reference to the US Canadian border, Donald Trump started talking about

getting the bad guys out. About deportations. And his immigration

policy with an eye towards Mexico. He knows what Americans are

interested in and what the questions are about his immigration policy and

he was going to defend them even with Justin Trudeau standing right

next to him. You mentioned trade, let's play a quick clip on that

subject. He says he wants out of the North American

free Trade Agreement, here are both leaders on that issue. President

Trump and I got elected on commitments to support the middle

class, to work hard the people who need a real shot at success. We know

that by working together, by ensuring the continued effective

integration of our two economies, we are going to be creating greater

opportunities the middle-class Canadians and Americans now and well

into the future. I agree with that 100%, we have a very outstanding

trade relationship with Canada. We will be tweaking it, doing certain

things that will benefit both of our countries, it is a much less severe

situation then is what taking place in the southern border. The many

years, the transaction was not fair to the United States.

Well, Mr Trump uses the term tweak, which is not the verb that springs

to mind when I think the comments he is made about Nafta. No, he's called

it a horrible deal, perhaps the worst US is as a maid. Can see him

again going from discussing US Canadian policies to focusing on

Mexico. That is where his real concerns are. He is talking about

all the jobs he is trying to take back to the US NEC 's Mexico as the

beneficiary of Nafta, but understandably can make deemed a

nervous --- understandably Canadians are nervous. They depend on the US

over their economy. Any trade agreements are going to have

Canadians want to do and are rightly concerned. One thing I want to ask

you, here is a tweet... I spotted a lot of people complaining about

this, these reasonable complaints? Well, the past meetings with foreign

leaders they've only had a handful of questions. This wasn't a full

press competence. But, guess the people that he called on, there were

two American journalists and two Hannay D in general is. The two

Americans wherefrom conservative --- both of them asked about immigration

and security. None of them asked about Michael Blain and the

controversy surrounding his contacts with Russian officials prior to

Donald Trump's inauguration and possibly talking about sanctions

related discussions so, the fact that they picked those two peoples,

they seem to think that this was a way for them to avoid those hard

questions and they did. They didn't call one of the major media outlets

that would have asked about the controversy. We will talk about that

in depth, but as you are here just updated as he's done this job, right

he is. He is under fire but still in his job. We will talk about the

natural... Now, Donald Trump signed a number of executive orders and to

our to do with the American Mexico border. One is palpable and the

other concerns officials that carry out deportations. We have

highlighted Al Paso city just on the US side of the border, we have a

reporter there. Luis is about to cross

into the knighted States. For many on the border

it is a way of life. We are protecting his

identity because the American company he works

for doesn't allow him to speak. This is the kind of

journey that many people in Ciudad Juarez make everyday to go

and work in all Paso. He is Mexican and he's

building the wall, the wall It's like they send some body

to drive a bus, he is doing his job, you know, and my job

is just to make the wall this time. His family and friends do not see

this as a problem either. They joke with me and

they tell me just to leave it a little open

for them to cross. This is where Luis is working

on a two kilometre stretch of the He believes the US

needs people like him. Standing so close to it,

it's obviously a very They used to be a small

fence here but it is now being replaced by this five

metre high metal post. The closer you get to the fence

the more you wonder how the wall president Trump wants

to build will serve its purposes and how it will affect the lives

and businesses of people in border This man is from Ciudad Juarez

and owns a small restaurant Since Trump was arrested the Mexican

currency, the pesto, has tumbled, and his

business has suffered. There's been a fence here for almost

a decade and while Ciudad Juarez became one of the most

violent places in the world El Paso is amongst the safest

cities in the US. The barrier runs through

this woman's backyard. We have less cargo,

as we say, Crossing over. Despite her Mexican heritage

she supports resident I believe that he is

trying to protect the US. All along the border

there are reminders like this that for some the impulse to cross

this fence or a future war may be --- or a future will may be too

strong to stop. We will shift from Al Paso to

Pakistan. At least 13 people have been killed

and more than 80 injured The target

was a protest outside The protest was organised

by Pakistan's pharmaceuticals manufacturers - though that doesn't

seem connected to it being targeted. A group linked to the Pakistani

Taliban has claimed responsibility. Secunder Kermani told

us more about them. They are a fraction of the Pakistani

Taliban who launched a large attack in the same city in March last year.

You may remember it happened at Easter, around 70 people were

killed. Actually, in Pakistan over the last year and a half or two

years, big major terrorist attacks like these have been decreasing. In

fact, this city had been hoping to host in Pakistan the domestic

cricket league's final. Which is taking place in the United Arab

Emirates and people had been looking forward to that because of the

changes in the security situation. Now, that is looking unlikely. The

chief of army staff and the Prime Minister have both condemned the

attack the Prime Minister vowing that Pakistan will continue to fight

against what he describes as the cancer of terrorism

in the country. In a few minutes will play you the

undercover investigation into one of Britain's's jails. It was bound in a

state of chaos. --- found. The Co-Op Bank has announced it's

putting itself up for sale. The high street bank -

which has more than 4 million customers -

almost collapsed in 2013 after It was bailed out by American hedge

funds but has struggled to strengthen its finances

because of low interest rates. Our business editor Simon Jack

reports on its problems He says the may already be a

potential buyer. One name springs out the May which is the TSB which

itself was carved out of Lloyds after a merger. Like all small band

it is struggling, they both have a slightly ethical, slightly local,

slightly simple flavour to them. Their brand is a good bit. Having

said that TSB have other priorities they've just separated from Lloyds,

which is a massive IT. We live in the BBC newsroom, our

lead story is that Donald Trump has met the Prime Minister of Canada,

they discuss terrorism, trade and refugees.

He is said to oppose any reconciliation with Israel. As BBC

Arabic. And the operations are being made in New Zealand to remove the

carcasses of Wales who died during a mass stranding on the beach.

Volunteers did manage to refloat 200 or the Wales but it is not clear

what caused the Strand. A BBC investigation has exposed

widespread drug abuse and security failings at one

of Britain's biggest prisons. What has been happening inside is

worthy of note. Nearly 1400 male inmates are kept their other two

months an undercover BBC reporter worked as a custody officer and

documented widespread drug use, hold on security fences and more

fundamentally a lack of control. This is a clip where he is

threatened by an inmate. The giveaway for me...

The prison was privatised and since then many positions have been caught

including 96 prison officers. As you see some of the remaining staff feel

they are an safe. These are pictures showing

prisoners who'd taken drugs. cannabis called spice

is what many were using. Other inmates were witnessed

walking around drunk. Large quantities of illegal drugs

were also found in prison cells of the issues can be linked

to a spike in prison numbers. Since the 1990's the number

of prisoners in the UK has Liz Truss is the Justice Secretary -

here she is talking Reductions by cab or Cueto sweeping

sentencing courts are not a magic bullet but against his attempt at a

quick fix. We need to do hard work and a lot of it. We need to do the

hard work of improving community sentences of dealing with problems

like drink and drugs and making our prisons more effective at reforming

the people inside them. This will not be fixed in weeks or months, but

if we're resolute we will see our society become safer and our prison

population reduced. We're concentrating

on the relationship between Canada and the US

because of Justin Trudeau's Their trading relationships is one

of the biggest in the world's - That value of the relationship has

grown significantly since 1994. That may or may not be related

to the US signing the North America But Donald Trump

is not keen on this deal. Your husband signed Nafta which is

one of the worst thing that ever happened's that is your opinion. You

go to New England, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and you will see

devastation where manufacturers down 30, 40, sometimes 50%. Nafta is the

worst trade deal may be ever sign anywhere and certainly in this

country. Let's do a Outside Source reality check on what the president

is saying about Nafta. He says there are places where manufacturing is

down 50% or so, in his first week as president he took to twitter to

say... He talked about it being a one-sided deal that has cost many

jobs... Let's take these claims one at a time. First of all there is

some places in the US where manufacturing is down 50%, Mr Trump

does not go into details, be proof one way or the other. In terms of

trade deficit even go to an official US website to get that it says the

US goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015. It also

says if you put goods and services together the trade deficit is below

$50 billion. It is not clear if he was including services if he isn't

then his figure is reasonably close to the mark. Let's bring in Michelle

live from New York. How do we measure whether Nafta has been one

of the worst things for US manufacturing? There've been reports

conducted in the US by various official bodies who have X concluded

that it hasn't been terrible for the American economy but has been god

Poseidon pockets of the economy and I think that is where Donald Trump's

mess it has resonated, those industries where perhaps something

didn't come back to replace it after Nafta. What is worth pointing out is

that if you look at the long path of manufacturing employment in America,

the decline in jobs in that sector predated Nafta and pal of more

sharply when China joint the WTO. It is unclear how much Nafta should be

held responsible for this. Nonetheless Donald Trump says it is

about a trade deal that he wants to renegotiate. Although with Canada he

says it worked fine on that and only needed a tweak. Perhaps that may be

to do with the trade deficit is. With Carragher it is much less

significant than with Mexico --- with Carragher it was much less

significant. But, Mexico was a developing economy. He is correct to

say that there are some areas where manufacturing has gone down by as

much as 50%? He certainly is correct in pointing to the fact that

manufacturing has gone down sharply in some areas. But, what is the root

cause of back? Nafta or trade moving overseas, there has been a lot of

debate about that, others would point to mechanisation being the

real problem. Actually if you look automation in the progress made in

factories today, you don't see huge number of people assembling parts

individually by hand, a lot of it is operating robotic arms, laser

cutting machines, all of this has replaced a huge number of people and

the question is how much of that is the real problem when you look at

manufacturing and how much has today would trade? We appreciate your help

is there, thank you very much indeed we'll be doing attempt one macro

reality check every single day on the programme and if there were

stories you would like is to look at by all means letters no. We still

don't know if Donald Trump's travel bans on seven Muslim majority

companies will return. --- Muslim majority countries. But, what about

the airlines that fly people in and out of the US.

this is an interesting clip of Willie Walsh -

CEO of International Airlines Group which owns British

It affects everybody in Europe and not just the United Kingdom, so it

is in everybody in your's interest. There are 900 million consumers who

have benefited from the regime that has been in place. You say you are

confident that those negotiations will go as you want, but if that

doesn't happen what is the worst-case scenario? I don't think

there is one, because to be honest we deal with aviation regulation on

a global basis and I think people are fixated on the UK - your lip, in

the context of Brexit, but there are many countries in the world that we

currently try to which have restrictive regimes in place and we

have had to put structures in place deal with that. --- fixated on UK

Europe. We think we will be able to adapt structures and operating

procedures to continue to operate. It webby as efficient or have the

same consumer benefit, but I don't think there is a doomsday scenario.

--- it won't be as efficient. On certainty isn't just confined to the

UK or even Europe, there is a new administration in the White House,

what Donald Trump has done has surprised many people. The ban on

travellers from seven different countries, how much of the concern

is that the U? It causes concern to individuals. From industry point of

view we are able to adapt will stop --- how much of the concern is that

all you. We have seen these things in the past and it takes is time to

adjust, we're just and then we move on. When you look aviation between

the US and Europe or the US and the UK it is something that has worked

very well. The US industry, the UK industry, the European industry are

all aligned. We want to see the current open skies regime to

continue. We don't want to see new barriers put in place. But whether

barriers are put in place, we deal with them. I think back to the

disruption caused by the liquids ban, it was severe in the short term

but we adapted. It is inconvenient for some people today, but we are

capable of adjusting to any restriction on new measure put in

place. Now, the next 30 minutes of outside source, we'll be live in

Washington, DC, if you have any questions on American politics send

them my way and I will put them to E. We will also be hearing from

Pakistan where a court has been issuing a ban on Valentine's Day

activities. We will also update you on the Dan in California that has

come under some structural damage. --- the dam in California.

We are at the height of summer in Australia, and that summer he has

had some all