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Now on BBC One it's time for the news where you are.

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Welcome to a specially extended edition of Reporting Scotland,

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as the country digests another SNP victory in the election.

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Nicola Sturgeon heralds an historic third successive Government,

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but the party falls short of an overall majority.

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I feel very humbled by the trust the people across Scotland are putting

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in the SNP. I am determined if the results developed the way I hope it

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does that I am determined to govern this country in the interests of

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everybody here. It was all smiles for

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Ruth Davidson's Conservatives, who were the big winners

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on the night, overhauling Labour as the main opposition

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party at Holyrood. There are people right across

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Scotland who are sending the SNP a message. There are voices and the

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decision we made as a country won't be ignored.

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Labour's Kezia Dugdale says it was her party's tactics that lost

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votes but, despite that, she won't be standing down.

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I know that for some the constitutional argument remains the

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most important factor when casting their vote, and my determination to

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try and move the Scottish debate on well have cost me and my party votes

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tonight. And the Greens overtake the Lib Dems

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to become Holyrood's fourth party. We'll be analysing the results

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and speaking to a panel of leading members of the main parties

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as the political landscape It's been a remarkable few years

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in Scottish politics, but once again the election has

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thrown up surprises. The SNP will form its third

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successive Government but it won't have a majority

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at Holyrood. Its main opposition will be

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the Conservatives, who overtook Labour as the second-biggest party,

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while the Greens ousted the Liberal Democrats

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to take fourth place. The SNP won 63 seats,

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two short of a majority. The Conservatives came second

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with 31, more than doubling That pushed Labour into third

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with 24, after the But it was a good night

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for the Scottish Greens, who overtook the Lib Dems

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as the fourth-biggest party, In a moment, we'll be looking

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in more detail at the results, but first Catriona Renton looks back

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at the night's events. It was never really a question of if

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the SNP would win the most seats, just how many would they take?

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The Scottish Parliament as a member...

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What is now beyond doubt is that the SNP has won a third consecutive

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Scottish Parliament election. That has never been done before in the

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history of the Scottish Parliament. But it was not this success that was

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predicted. As ballot boxes were brought in by land, sea and air, and

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the counting started in earnest, faces told a story. Labour, once the

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biggest party at Holyrood, so the writing on the wall.

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Someone once described the 1983 manifesto as the longest suicide

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note in history but the manifesto stood on is self and elation for

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dummies. But this smile tells that the real

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comeback kids of this election are the Conservatives. As their leader

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took Edinburgh Central from the SNP, she is now the face of the official

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opposition. One thing we are learning as tonight

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goes on is that there are people right across Scotland who are

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sending the SNP a message. They are voices and the decision we made as a

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country will not be ignored. Nowhere is that more evident than in

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Edinburgh Central, where we are coming from fourth position.

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In the shock of the night, they took eastwards, the incumbent Labour

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knocked into third place. Like father like son, in Dumfriesshire,

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Oliver is elected following in his father's footsteps. In contrast, the

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night got worse for Labour, losing traditional heartlands like places

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night got worse for Labour, losing in Fife, they were knocked out in

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Glasgow, winning not a single first past the post seat. Kezia Dugdale

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failed to win her own constituency but was elected on the list. She

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announced she is not packing it in. I took over this job at challenging

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times. From 41 MPs to just one MP. I said at the time I had a mission to

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read you the Scottish Labour Party and had a plan. I asked my

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colleagues to step angry with the five-year vision for the party and

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they did so with 72% of the vote. I have a huge mandate to win this

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party. Scottish Green Party...

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The youngest MSP is 21 years old, and with six seats, Green Party have

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overtaken the Liberal Democrats and are the fourth biggest party at

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Holyrood. We have gained lament and profile

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during this campaign and into the expertise and experience of getting

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our campaigners and volunteers out there on a scale we have never seen

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before. The Lib seemed happy with their

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result and have the same number MSP 's as they went in with. But they

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gained Edinburgh West and from the SNP and they are leader won his own

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seat in Fife north-east. Two big wins from the SNB and this

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election is a tremendous result and that is what we are pleased about.

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There were no seat from Ukip in Scotland and for the first time

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since 1999, no independence were elected. Perhaps this is not the

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election result expected but with no outright majority for the SNP, there

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will be deals to be done. Maybe Scottish politics just got even more

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interesting. Well, let's take a look at how

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the results have changed David Henderson can explain, using

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the latest in computer graphics - or augmented reality,

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as the boffins call it. It took all night to count the votes

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cast in this election, but the result is now clear. Let's look

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first at the 73 constituency seats. Here is our map of Scotland, with

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huge amounts of yellow, the SNP who won the lion's share of seats, 59

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spread throughout the country. There is also plenty of conservative blue.

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They're in the South of Scotland but also here in Aberdeenshire West, and

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in Edinburgh Central. The leader Ruth Davidson won the Edinburgh

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Central seat. The Tories took seven constituencies including four new

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wins. Meanwhile Labour took a hammering and lost 13 seats. They

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were left with just three first past the post MSPs. The Lib Dems overtook

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them with four, including a win for their leader, Willie Rennie, in

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North East Fife. 56 MSP 's were also elected through the regional lists.

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They were of course crucial to the outcome. Labour against 21 seats

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that way. The Conservatives gained 24. The SNP gained just for this way

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and the Green Party travelled to their tally of seats from the last

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Parliament, finishing with six MSPs. So where does this leave Scotland's

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main party leaders? Ukip, Bayer, with David Cockburn, failed to get

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their first MSP. The Liberal Democrats held the Northern Isles

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and gained a view seats elsewhere but their total is the same as it

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was in the last Parliament will stop they have just five MSPs. Patrick

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Harvie's Greens now overtake the Lib Dems as the Parliament's fourth

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largest party with six seats. What support might they lend to the SNP

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in order to allow Nicola Sturgeon to lead a minority Government? Kezia

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Dugdale's Labour Party suffered heavy defeats. All but one of them

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were in the central belt. They ended up with just 24 Anest Ps. That is 13

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less than they had in the last Parliament. They have been overtaken

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has the largest opposition party by Ruth Davidson's Conservatives. An

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excellent result for them, finishing on 31 seats, more than twice as many

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MSPs as they had in the last Parliament. Finally Nicola Sturgeon.

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She is First Minister and again, with the SNP finishing with 63

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seats, way in front of all challengers. Not quite enough to

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secure an overall majority. She would have needed 65 MSPs for that.

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Well, I'm joined in the studio now by:

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Adam Tomkins, who is a newly elected Conservative MSP,

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Pauline McNeill, who won a seat on the regional list

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Lord Purvis of the Scottish Liberal Democrats,

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and from Edinburgh, Alison Johnstone of

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Also with me is Professor Ailsa Henderson from Edinburgh University

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Alyn Smith, you have one and historic third term, a huge

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achievement but you will be running a minority Government at Holyrood,

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and it has been some time. It will take some getting used to.

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This is the Scottish Parliament reverting back to what it was

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designed to do, a proportional Parliament. It was designed that

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everyone is a minority, so we have done a minority at ministration

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before. -- administration. That worked well in the 2007-11 mandate

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and we will do what we always do. Is that how you will tackle it this

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time, issue by issue? Those discussions are underway and

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we are working on the numbers following that. We will do what we

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always do. We have our historic third term, with a big mandate for

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Nicola Sturgeon. There are a lot of things we can cooperate with the

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other parties with. Adam Tomkins, a successful night for

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other parties with. the Conservatives. What is it down

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to? A combination of two things. First

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of all, that we lead the argument in terms of left- right politics and

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were clear and consistent with a simple message that we did not want

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Scotland to become the highest taxed simple message that we did not want

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part of the UK and we let the argument, we we laid it on the

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constitutional argument which has not gone away. I wish it had gone

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away but it has not. We had a clear, consistent and simple message, led

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by Ruth Davidson on both fronts, that we will oppose any second

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independence referendum and want to see the result of the 2014

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independence referendum having respect. What is so exciting about

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the results we saw last night is this will be a strong Scottish

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Parliament. A Parliament that is genuinely able to hold the

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Nationalist administration to robust account. Alyn Smith is right that

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the Scottish parliamentary system has corrected itself after the

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hugely successful result that the SNP had five years ago. This is what

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single chamber parliaments are supposed to do.

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Do you foresee yourselves helping the SNP to get their budget through

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eventually? Since the other three parties are in favour of tax rises.

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We have been elected for a clearer job which is to lead the opposition

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to the SNP. That was the core of our campaign.

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Will you cooperate on areas... ? That was the core of our campaign on

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tax and the economy, and the issue of the Constitution. We have been

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elected to hold the SNP to account. Will you not be cooperating on the

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budget? I think if the SNP want to deliver

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the Conservative Party manifesto, we will find ourselves supporting that.

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We will see what their budget proposals are but we have been

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elected to lead the opposition to the SNP.

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Pauline, beaten into third place by the Conservatives in Scotland. How

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has it got bad? Is your analysis? Let me congratulate the SNP and the

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Conservatives with a great result and no doubt that Labour's result is

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worse than expected. We lost a lot of good people and experienced

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people in Parliament. How to explain it? I think we should not rush to

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judgment completely at this stage, that would be a mistake for a party

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to do that. I agree with Kezia Dugdale, the leader, and Adam

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Tomkins, that the constitutional question is still fundamentally a

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defining moment. That is for the country. I think that Labour are

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probably have to be clearer where it wants to position itself. It has

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defined the space it wants to get into. All my adult little life I

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believed in home rule for Scotland the benighted kingdom. I believed in

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the savagery of the United people. the savagery of the United people.

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-- sovereignty. Labour needs to find its feet more ambitiously and more

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confidently on that spectrum. Kezia Dugdale has a difficult position as

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leader and she will remain as leader. That is the position to

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represent people in our party who voted yes. She has to represent them

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and that is a difficult thing to do. Lastly, I think, to examine the

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question of our policy, I think there has been a big consensus among

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party members that for the first time we actually got it was a bold

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manifesto, but... Thank you very much.

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Pushed into fifth place, it is not a major recovery for the Lib Dems. I

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was at the start of the broadcast when the polls closed, the opinion

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polls suggested we could be wiped out. These are constituencies that

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we held. They did not forecast what has happened, we have gained seats,

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we have an anchor hold of constituencies on the mainland. In a

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parliament of minorities, there is no difference between six and five

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MSPs. We fought across constituencies. Our total vote was

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far higher than the Green Party. Given where people were forecasting

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us, Willie Rennie is enthusiastic, positive, enthusiastic, he has given

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us a good platform to be a liberal, reformist opposition. I was on the

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Finance committee for five years, every single one of the Conservative

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members supported the SNP Budget. They have broadly the same position,

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so this broad, Mission of low tax between the SNP and the

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Conservatives will be fascinating. Six seats, best result ever for the

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Green Party, what do you intend to do with your increased muscle in a

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parliament where the SNP are just short of an overall majority? Result

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ever, but we will work very constructively and mutually as we

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always have done. -- second best result ever. We will make sure the

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SNP to not carry out Tory policy, and we are pleased to be the fourth

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biggest party in parliament. We have a lot to offer, we will keep the SNP

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honest and make sure that they deliver the radical policies that

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will bring about transformative change in Scotland. For example a

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complete ban on fracking. We have disagreements on areas like air

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passenger duty and taxation, but we are looking forward to playing

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essential part in parliament in the next five years. There is a

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pro-independence majority in the parliament, how keen are you at a

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party on having a second referendum within this Parliament, if the SNP

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decided that conditions were right as far as they were concerned and

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wanted to call a second referendum? I don't think it is for the SNP or

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any political party or politician to decide that conditions are right. It

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is a matter for the Scottish people. If there were a citizens initiative,

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perhaps petitioning Parliament, or if it became quite obvious that the

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majority in Scotland favoured a second referendum, we would support

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majority in Scotland favoured a that call. What is your picture that

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you feel the electorate is producing for us in Scotland right now? What

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are the main lessons and surprises? There are some lessons about

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are the main lessons and surprises? tactics. There are examples of

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tactics working well, the Conservative Party has managed to

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navigate what is a crowded political space on the left and park out its

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tent on the centre-right, but also on the fusion. There are lessons of

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tactics that have not gone well. We know that Labour has problems in

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terms of a perception of standing up for Scotland, voters not always

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clear on what it is standing for at different times. There are some

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surprises, I don't think we were expecting the leader effect that saw

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Willie Rennie and Ruth Davidson capture constituency seats. The

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extent to which both the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives have

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returned to or arrived at a geographic base, that is a surprise.

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There are further surprises to come, we won't get the results until we

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have findings from the Scottish election study. But the extent to

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which constitutional preference against economic preference has

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mattered, the role of class needs to be looked at, but one important

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finding is about the extent to which we might consider the legislative to

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be more polarised than in the past. From the perspective of the

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constitutional preferences, it might appear more polarised than before.

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If we look at it from economic preferences, there is a centre/

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centre-right Rafferty, with only a third of voters supporting parties

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that promise to increase tax. There are lessons and challenges. We are

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expecting Nicola Sturgeon to speak in the next half hour or so at the

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house in Edinburgh. What can you tell us? The media are all come out

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here, the cameras are pointing in one direction, at the door of Bute

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house, the First Minister's official residence. We expect her shortly

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after 2pm to make a short statement. We can expect her to reflect on the

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results overnight, and perhaps some thoughts about the way forward for

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her SNP minority Government. When Nicola Sturgeon joined the SNP 30

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years ago, she could never have imagined herself now leading an SNP

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Government in its third term in a Scottish parliament. This was a

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clear victory for her party, despite expectations being very high, but

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now we will hear some unifying thought about how the SNP can move

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forward and work with the other parties over the next five years.

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When she appears, we will bring you that live.

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Let's see what the results look like up close on the Wall Of Truth

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The map of largely yellow, yellow of the SNP, David Henderson showed it

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you earlier on, how dominant they are across the country. It was like

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this five years ago, slightly more impressive from their point of view

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five years ago. They had already made a change. Let's go into more

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detail. Across the central belt, it was

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almost entirely red for Labour, and now you can see very little Labour

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red left at all. This is the Dumbarton seat at Jackie Baillie has

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held onto for Labour, partly because she thought a local campaign about

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local hospitals, the health service and jobs associated with the nuclear

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base. On the other side of the central belt, East Lothian, Iain

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Gray, the former leader of the Labour Party held on to that seat.

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There is a game for the Labour Party, they lost a lot of seats

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across the central belt, 11 seats, but they gained one in Edinburgh

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South. The same speed's seat that Iain Murray has for them in the

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Westminster Parliament, the only seed that have in the Westminster

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Parliament. Otherwise, the blue of the South. The Tories already had

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representation in the South, extending into the central large

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representation in the South, constituency of Dumfriesshire. And

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holding onto seats they already had, winning in other parts of the

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country. They already held Ar -- Ayr. This flatters the Conservatives

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and the SNP a bit, because the ruble seats so much space. Each hexagon

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represents a constituency. You get a much better sense of the kind of

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Parliament that we are looking at in terms of constituency. The Labour

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losses are the ones edged in red. There were also blue Tory seat being

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picked up. You could see how few Labour seats there are left and how

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dominant the SNP was right across the country. 56 of 129 seats were

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elected by the list system, the SNP not doing well enough to get to a

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majority. Let's have a look at the chamber. When they get to Holyrood

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next week, the SNP remained very dominant across the middle, but not

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with the majority they had five years ago. They needed 65 seats for

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a majority. This is the main opposition party,

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Ruth Davidson will ask the first question of Nicola Sturgeon. The

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Green party larger than the Lib Dems. The smaller parties will get a

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place on committees and the Parliamentary bureau. There will be

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a different type of politics as the main party without a majority tries

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to put together coalitions on shifting issues, rather than seeking

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a firm coalition, such as we had in the first eight years of Hollywood.

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We're expecting Nicola Sturgeon to speak in the next half hour

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We had this response from Ruth Davidson.

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One thing we are learning, there are people right across Scotland who are

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sending the SNP a message. Their voices and the decision we made as a

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country won't be ignored. Nowhere is that more evident than in Edinburgh

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Central, we were coming from fourth position. It has been a in this

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fight, there are some people I would like to thank. First and foremost,

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my agent and our organiser. He is one of the most hard-working people

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I have ever had the great joy to know within the Scottish

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Conservative Party. I would like to thank our national team, my fellow

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candidates in Edinburgh, we work this as a Lothian region. We will

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have a better idea later tonight just how well or otherwise we as a

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party have done. I cannot help's cannot thank those who have helped

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me and our candidates enough. If I am I any small measure elected to be

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the main opposition party, I promise that I would serve to the best of my

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ability. It is a role I take seriously. To the people I have just

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been elected to serve, this is the seat I was born in and educated in,

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been elected to serve, this is the that I live in and work in. It is

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the seat I hope to serve for many years to come. Thank you very much.

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In the past hour the Prime Minister has been giving his reaction

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to the election results across the UK and he congratulated

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Ruth Davidson on the Conseratives success in Scotland.

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I think these elections tell us something else as well,

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and that is that the Labour Party have completely lost touch

:26:31.:26:33.

with the hard-working people they are supposed to represent.

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I think what these elections show is that where we are

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a united, mainstream, one nation, with a passionate

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Conservative Party, we can win, we can serve our country

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and our communities and we can deliver the things

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Nowhere is that more the case and with those remarkable results

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Let us pay huge tribute to Ruth Davidson, and the extraordinary

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campaign that she has run with those absolutely stunning results,

:26:53.:26:55.

which see the Conservative Party, for the first time in a very long

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time, to be the official opposition in the Scottish Parliament.

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It was a great result and she deserved it.

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After the declaration at her count in Edinburgh,

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the Scottish Labour leader Kezia Dugdale gave her reaction

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I congratulate Nicola Sturgeon on her victory this evening and on

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securing a third term in office. I promise Labour will be an effective

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but positive opposition over the coming years. This election was

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always going to be tough for the Scottish Labour Party. Just a year

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after a painful general election defeat. I am proud that our campaign

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rose to the challenge of offering an defeat. I am proud that our campaign

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alternative vision for what could be done in our new, more powerful

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Parliament. I want to thank all of those who voted for my party across

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the country, all the people who volunteered and, of course, to all

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of our candidates. Your support means the world to me. I know that

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any disappointment felt by my colleagues and friends who have lost

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tonight is secondary to the concern they feel about the impact of the

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cuts yet to come and the continued austerity that working people across

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Scotland will face. For our part, Labour in the new parliament led by

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me will do as we promised in this Labour in the new parliament led by

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election. We will fight to ensure the Parliament uses its new powers

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and fulfils its great potential. I was adamant I would fight this as an

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election about the future, talking about the potential for change.

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Using the powers of our new parliament to deliver that change in

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stead of rerunning the arguments of the past. It -- for some, the

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constitutional argument remains the most important factor when casting

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their vote, and my determination to move the debate on will have cost me

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and my party votes tonight. But in the long run, I believe our politics

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has to be about the future of our economy, the life chances of the

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children in this country and our public services, and I and my party

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will continue to make that argument in our new parliament.

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You're watching a Reporting Scotland Holyrood election special.

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An emphatic third victory for the SNP but they fall short

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I feel very humbled by the trust the people across Scotland

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I am determined if the results developed the way I hope it does

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that I am determined to govern this country in the interests

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And the Conservatives celebrate becoming the biggest opposition

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There are people right across Scotland who are

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Their voices and the decision we made as a country won't be ignored.

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We're going over to the First Minister's official residence now -

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Bute House in Edinburgh - where we're expecting to hear

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While we wait for her to come forward, let me have a quick word

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with our panel. Alyn Smith, what signal have you been sent by the

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electorate about their enthusiasm or otherwise for a second referendum

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within this next Parliament? There is an awful lot of numbers we

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need to crunch to work that out. It was front and centre in our campaign

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for Nicola to have a mandate, and the fact we have won more seats than

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Tories, Labour and Lib Dems combined is a spectacular achievement nine

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years into our Administration. This is a great endorsement of what the

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SNP has been doing. The SNP were talking a lot in the

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final days of the campaign about the likelihood of a second referendum. I

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will ask Thompkins what you think. The electorate has been sent a

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message... The SNP has no mandate for a second

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independence referendum, because there was no commitment to hold a

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second independence referendum in its manifesto. There is no appetite

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in Scotland, it seems to me, for a second independence referendum, and

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there will not be won in the lifetime of this Parliament, for the

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reason that we do not have a majority SNP Government and we don't

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have a Government of any description that was elected on a manifesto

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have a Government of any description commitment to hold a second

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independence referendum. Sorry to interrupt you but Nicola

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Sturgeon is coming forward at Bute House.

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Thank you for joining me here on this sunny afternoon, the day after

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a momentous election victory for the SNP. Yesterday, the SNP made

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history. We became the first party to win a third consecutive Scottish

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Parliament election and secure a third term in office. We won the

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highest share of the constituency vote and the largest number of

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constituency seats ever achieved in a Scottish Parliament election. We

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are the very first party in the era of devolution to Paul Morgan 1

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million votes in constituencies across our country. -- poll. The

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people of Scotland once again placed their trust in the SNP to govern our

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country. We won a clear and unequivocal mandate and I secured

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the personal mandate I sought to implement the bold and ambitious

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programme of Government that I asked the country to vote for. I can

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confirm that when it reconvenes in the coming days, I will ask the

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Scottish Parliament to formally re-elect me as the First Minister of

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Scotland. It will bend the my intention to form and to lead an SNP

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Government. With such a large group of NSPs elected, I don't intend to

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see any formal arrangement -- MSPs. With any other parties. However, the

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Government lead will be an inclusive Government. It will be firm on our

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determination to deliver on the commitment we made to the Scottish

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people, but it will also reach out and seek to work with others across

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the Parliament, to find common and seek to work with others across

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ground and build consensus. Election campaigns inevitably focus on

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differences and on dividing lines. But I believe that if we choose to

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find it, there is common ground, plenty of it, to build on. I made

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clear in this election that education will be the defining and

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driving priority of my tenure as First Minister. I expected to be

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judged on that. I reiterate that commitment today. Education is my

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passion and my priority and because of that I was heartened that all

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parties chose to put a clear focus on it. I hope we can put party

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differences aside and work together. Ensuring opportunities for all of

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our young people, regardless of their backgrounds or their family

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circumstances, is a cause that should and must unite, not divide us

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over the next five years. There is also a considerable agreement on

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stepping up our ambition to tackle limit change and protect our

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environment, and in putting in support for innovation at the heart

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of our efforts to transform the productivity of the Scottish

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economy. Of course, the SNP's determination to use new powers to

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mitigate austerity, invest in our public services and build a social

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security system based on the principles of dignity and respect,

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is, with perhaps one exception, shared by other parties in our

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Parliament. So, the Government I lead will reach out. We will govern

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with conviction, with ambition and with determination, but also with

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humility and a willingness to listen and to learn from the ideas of

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others. On the question of independence, let me say this. The

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SNP will always make our case with passion, with patients and with

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respect, but our aim is to persuade, not to divide. -- patience. We will

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always respect the opinion of the people, now and in the future, and

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we simply ask that other hearties do likewise. You know, it is the

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greatest privilege imaginable to be elected as the First Minister of our

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country. To those who voted for me and for the SNP yesterday, thank you

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from the very bottom of my heart. You have given me a precious

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opportunity to change this country for the better, and I promised to

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seize that opportunity with both hands. To those who did not vote for

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me, I promise you that I will never stop striving to earn your trust and

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your support. Like all politicians, I am passionate, very passionate,

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about the ideals I believe in. But, as First Minister, I know that I

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have a duty to rise above party politics and to govern in the best

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interests of all of our country. My pledge to days that I will always

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seek to do that. Whatever your politics or your point of view, my

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job is to serve you. I will always fight Scotland's coroner and I will

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work every single day to make our country fairer, wealthier and

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stronger. -- Scotland's corner. I relish the opportunities that this

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next term of Parliament presents and I now look forward to very much,

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after perhaps a view our's sleep, to getting on with the job. -- if you

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are as' sleep. The SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon their

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outside Bute House. Our reporter,

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Shelley Jofre is there for us. There was Nicola Sturgeon reflecting

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on her party's great success, momentous, she called it. An

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historic third term in office. Throughout this campaign, which many

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have referred to as presidential, Nicola Sturgeon repeated she was

:38:37.:38:40.

seeking a mandate from voters to continue as First Minister. She said

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she got back mandate and is going back to Parliament to ask to be made

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First Minister, and she is not seeking to make any kind of formal

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collection with any of the other parties. It was a unifying speech,

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though. She talked about governing in the interests of everybody. 20 of

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common ground. It looks like she is going to put education at the centre

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of her plan for Government. -- plenty of common ground. On the

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question of independence she says she will respect the opinion of the

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Scottish people and hopes all the other parties will as well.

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Thank you. Douglas, what did you take from

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that? The mandate is what she was seeking

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and it gives a burst of political capital. She starts with this huge

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amount of political capital, especially as her former opponents

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are now in a weak position, and she knows there are high expectations to

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deliver, which she has encouraged. I expectations for education, no big

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surprise she is putting that at the top of her agenda. Interesting when

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she said no formal coalitions. We will work with the people around,

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other things... She then listed the environment, which did not play a

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big part in the debate, but perhaps caters to one particular party. The

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Tories might like the part about improving the economy and mitigating

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austerity, for Labour, so if you messages for parties she might reach

:40:18.:40:21.

out to. The Lib Dems might be attracted by mitigation of austerity

:40:22.:40:25.

as well. The next age we will hear, after she has had that sleep,

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probably looking towards a reshaping of the Cabinet, with different

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portfolios. Because of the extra tax powers, there will be a new Ministry

:40:34.:40:39.

for finance, I think, recommended by independent experts. What I'm

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hearing is a possibility that has been looked at, to get the education

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brief but together with the economy, because in many ways they are

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linked. That job will go to John Swinney if he is willing to take it

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on. To focus on education, tied in with council reform, that is a big

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Strand they will be talking about. Not necessarily changing boundaries

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but putting pressure on councils to hand power down to unity councils

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and some form of Morecambe unity based organisation -- more

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community-based. Health is due for a lot of reform. They are talking

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about pushing some procedures out into the community. Some getting

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centralised and more rules for GPs and medical hubs. In the short-term,

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they need to do something about the economy, because every day there are

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more jobs being lost. We are going through a rough patch in terms of

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the fallout from the oil and gas sector in particular. That is the

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agenda. She set out some of it there today and over the weekend we will

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hear more about that. Pauline McNeill, a unifying message.

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We heartened by anything you heard there from your opponent? -- were

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you? I was. I don't think it is a mandate

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to govern. For Nicola Sturgeon to recognise that is important. Alyn

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Smith made the point earlier that the parliament's make up was going

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back to the way things were supposed to be, that the system was designed

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not to give anyone... This is a good thing for everyone. If Nicola

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Sturgeon says that education is one of her issues, I do think there is a

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lot of scope for common ground, because if all of the political

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parties you really believe in what we have all been saying in our

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manifesto is about closing the gap in educational attainment, that

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means we all have do help. You think Labour is ready to

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approach these issues now with less tribalism than before?

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I do. I have come here to be truthful and there is no point in

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doing anything else. What I do think, however, is the interesting

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thing for Labour, although it has been a bad night, ICS as forming

:42:52.:42:55.

part of a left Alliance on certain issues. -- I see this happening. I

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see ourselves as being part of the left. There are lots of areas where

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we can work with the Greens and Liberal Democrats as well. There are

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exciting prospects for Labour but I think she gave us a message. I don't

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think she has a mandate for a referendum, but she has a mandate to

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govern. That is what they will hold her to a count on.

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One member of that left Alliance is sitting on our left. Welcome to Ross

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Greer. You have won a seat for the Scottish Greens and you are aged 21.

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Youngest ever MSP. Congratulations. Thank you.

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How are you feeling? 30 hours in, I'm not sure if I am

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feeling anything any more. We did not know our result up until 7:15am,

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so it was a painful night, but it was worth it in the end. It feels

:43:54.:43:57.

fantastic but more than anything else, like most other candidates, I

:43:58.:44:04.

am desperate for a rest. We have our first meeting this afternoon because

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the parliamentary arithmetic did not turn up the way we expected. We have

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a meeting to think of how we work in this settlement in a minority

:44:12.:44:15.

Government. The last minority Government 's 2007-11, worked well.

:44:16.:44:20.

The SNP had to reach out to other parties for eight constructive

:44:21.:44:23.

approach. I look forward to the opportunity to do that again.

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What are your main aspirations in this next term as a green MSP? Word

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you see your effort, and I would hope, your influence going?

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We will see the most influential green group. We had seven MSPs when

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it was a majority Government. This is the first time we have had a full

:44:50.:44:54.

group, more than five, and a minority Government, so there is a

:44:55.:44:58.

huge amount. We worked well in the last Parliament, we got a moratorium

:44:59.:45:04.

on fracking, we can push it to a ban, we put pressure on rent

:45:05.:45:08.

controls, we got them partially. We now want full national rent

:45:09.:45:15.

controls. We pushed on foreign ownership of football clubs. We can

:45:16.:45:18.

be a destructive party of opposition, but the first thing we

:45:19.:45:24.

need to rattle with is the finances, tax and spend. We put forward a

:45:25.:45:28.

manifesto about using the tax powers we have had to be a more progressive

:45:29.:45:32.

country will stop tackling inequality but raising revenue for

:45:33.:45:35.

public services. That is what we need to discuss and then we can look

:45:36.:45:44.

at what else we want to do. This all comes back to finances, that is one

:45:45.:45:48.

of the things we need to discuss. Just a word from you on the tax

:45:49.:45:54.

spend, such a big issue during the campaign, what can you the juice

:45:55.:46:00.

about that now? We know a fair bit from the polling. To what extent is

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there support for raising all marine tax? Depending on how the question

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is asked matters. Support is much higher if we mentioned public

:46:12.:46:15.

services, which lower if you mention welfare benefits, and if we just

:46:16.:46:21.

mention tax it is in the middle. Related to that, the issue of

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whether people want their rates to be different from the rates in the

:46:25.:46:28.

rest of the UK. We have consistent evidence of a majority support for

:46:29.:46:31.

the same rates across Scotland and the rest of the UK. We have

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inconsistent evidence in terms of how much people do want to pay more

:46:36.:46:40.

tax than others in the rest of the UK. That is true of tax but also of

:46:41.:46:47.

a bunch of other policy areas that are currently devolved, where there

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is variation. People are often not comfortable with the notion of

:46:52.:46:54.

variation in policy, unless they know they are not losing out from

:46:55.:47:00.

it. Education again was what was focused on by Nicola Sturgeon there.

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To what extent do you feel that there was a reflection in the vote

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of the fact that it was perceived in some quarters that the ice had been

:47:15.:47:19.

taken off the ball in that key area, as others, such as health, in the

:47:20.:47:27.

last Parliament? If we can draw any conclusions, with the SNP getting

:47:28.:47:31.

more seats than the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems combined, there is a

:47:32.:47:35.

huge endorsement. The independence question is different. Nicola looked

:47:36.:47:40.

for a mandate to govern in this election, with short of a majority,

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in a proportional Parliament that fosters wind to stop a majority

:47:47.:47:48.

happening. I would have been delighted with a majority, but we

:47:49.:47:53.

can make a minority work, there is ample common ground. I sit on the

:47:54.:47:59.

green group in the European Parliament, we can sit down with the

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other parties. That is what people want to see, so there is ample

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scope. The minority administration worked well from 2007 and delivered

:48:08.:48:13.

and pave the way for us winning the majority. We will see how it works.

:48:14.:48:17.

Nicola is clear that we will get on with it. There is a sense of the

:48:18.:48:22.

problems facing Scotland really require solutions that bring the

:48:23.:48:30.

parties together with a selection of the best of the ideas in a way that

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the Parliament has not really done before. Are you up for that?

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Absolutely, I am one of the least tribal politicians you will meet,

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but it is amazing what you can get done if you don't mind who takes the

:48:48.:48:52.

credit. On educational reform, which was a key point in the First

:48:53.:48:57.

Minister's speech, there is no left alliance with regard to education

:48:58.:49:01.

reform. There will be when it comes to hiking up tax, but educational

:49:02.:49:05.

reform is not a left/ right issue, or it should not be. There are lots

:49:06.:49:13.

of great ideas in the Scottish Conservatives manifesto which are

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quite close to a number of things that the Green party has talked

:49:16.:49:18.

about. I was interested in what Douglas said in the relationship

:49:19.:49:22.

between educational reform and local Government reform. What we need to

:49:23.:49:26.

think about in terms of education reform is not just Budget for

:49:27.:49:32.

schools and how we will cope with 152,000 college places cut, but how

:49:33.:49:35.

we organise education, which is an issue which we have not addressed in

:49:36.:49:42.

the lifetime of the devolution so far. If Nicola Sturgeon wants to do

:49:43.:49:46.

that, we will support her. A quick final thought from you in a moment,

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but before then, the Some lovely sunshine across the

:49:50.:50:00.

country this afternoon. Lovely blue skies up near Inverness. Elsewhere,

:50:01.:50:06.

there is some cloud, the sun is hazy at times. The best of the sunshine

:50:07.:50:12.

across the Highlands and Islands. Elsewhere is cloudy, but still

:50:13.:50:18.

bright. In the south-west, despite the cloudy skies, perhaps up to 18.

:50:19.:50:21.

It is cold or around the North Sea coast. Tonight it stays dry, but

:50:22.:50:27.

there will be some mist and McGuinness around the East Coast.

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Looking ahead towards the weekend, Saturday gets off to a cloudy, murky

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start. In the West, that is where the best of the sunshine is, but it

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is a fairly cloudy day, with showers developing. Shari rain arriving from

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the south-west. The timing is open to doubt, but we are thinking late

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afternoon. It will be caught on the to doubt, but we are thinking late

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East Coast. One or two showers across the Highlands and Islands. As

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we head through the rest of Saturday afternoon, into the evening, the

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rain takes hold and works northwards. A cloudy, murky, damp

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night, but it is clearing through at a pace, connected to this area of

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low pressure. This day and murky conditions around the East coast,

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but we are dragging up warm air from the south. For Sunday, with the wind

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coming in off the North Sea, right on the east coast it will be chilly,

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but further west, much warmer. One or two showers, but the sunshine

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makes the temperatures get into the low 20s. Monday, sunshine, if

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anything, the warmest spots are a touch warmer. 24 degrees are

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possible at times. Looking forward into this next new

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parliament, your priorities? We went into this saying that if we want to

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build a better country, it needs to be a bold using the powers it has to

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stop austerity, reduce inequality will stop that is what we need to

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do, we can push these issues. It has to be a bolt of Parliament, there is

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a chance to do that, Labour will continue to challenge the austerity

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programme. Championed the issue of quality jobs, especially for young

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people, and there is plenty of scope for working with other parties. I

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want to see a Scottish Government that is much less illiberal than the

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last one was, I want something proportionate, and a Government that

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for the first time in nationalist history takes devolution within

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Scotland seriously and he centralises power to cities and

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communities and neighbourhoods. In a minority administration, all parties

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need to come to the table with something useful, we will work with

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anybody constructively to make Scotland better.

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There's continuing election coverage over on BBC Radio Scotland

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I'll be joined by Jackie Bird tonight for an extended

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Reporting Scotland election special at 6:30pm, from our election studio

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here in Glasgow and the Chamber of the Scottish Parliament

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We'll be hearing live from party leaders and voters

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Until then, from everyone on the Reporting Scotland team

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here in Studio A in Glasgow, and our reporters right

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across the country, have a very good afternoon.

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Elected to serve in the Scottish Parliament. Ivan McKee is elected to

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serve in the Scottish Parliament. Elected to serve in the Scottish

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Parliament. SNP, 15,000... He is duly elected as the member of

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the Scottish parliament for the Eastwood constituency.

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Scottish Labour Party, 3004. Sorry, 304, my apology.

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