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David Cameron slaps down two of his most senior Cabinet ministers | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
over their public row about Islamist extremism in schools. | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
And it?s HER special advisor that has to resign. | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
We'll talk to the Shadow Education Secretary live | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
Should this man become the next President of the EU Commission? | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
David Cameron has staked a lot on stopping Luxembourg Federalist | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
But could the arch europhile yet get the top job? | :01:05. | :01:14. | |
Here's to the quarter of a million votes. | :01:15. | :01:16. | |
And we'll find out why this political party is celebrating with | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
The unusual alliances are bding success may have cost UKIP two MEPs. | :01:22. | :01:33. | |
The unusual alliances are being formed in | :01:34. | :01:35. | |
Has Boris Johnson deserted the suburbs and become a zone one man? | :01:36. | :01:43. | |
And with me our panel of top political journalists, | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
who are always squabbling among themselves, Nick Watt, Polly Toynbee | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
and Janan Ganesh, who will be tweeting throughout the programme | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
This morning's political news is dominated | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
by the very public fall-out of Home Secretary Theresa May and | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
The high viz blue on blue spat between two senior | :02:00. | :02:03. | |
Conservatives centred around the Government's approach to tackling | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
The row burst into the open ahead of the publication tomorrow of | :02:06. | :02:12. | |
investigations into the so-called Trojan Horse plot in Birmingham | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
where it is alleged several state schools have been covertly taken | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
Mr Gove told The Times last week he was concerned that the Home Office | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
was unwilling to tackle extremism at its roots. | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
He said a robust response was needed to drain the swamp. | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
In response, Mrs May's special advisor tweeted, | :02:34. | :02:34. | |
"why is the Department for Education wanting to blame other people | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
Lord knows what more they have overlooked on the subject of the | :02:38. | :02:44. | |
An angry David Cameron ordered a speedy inquiry. | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
Last night, Mr Gove apologised to the Prime Minister, while Ms May's | :02:52. | :02:54. | |
Speaking on the BBC earlier this morning, | :02:55. | :02:59. | |
this is what Foreign Secretary, William Hague, had to say. | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
There's been a disciplinary matter within the Government, | :03:06. | :03:07. | |
which the Prime Minister has dealt with in a very firm, clear way. | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
There will be discipline in the Government. | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
The main thing is the issue itself - tackling extremism in schools. | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
The Government will be very clear, very robust about anything that s | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
put children at risk - risk to their safety or learning. | :03:25. | :03:43. | |
Let's look at the positive of this. Theresa May 's people of saying she | :03:44. | :03:53. | |
has come off worse in theirs. Yelena Kushi is no more guilty than Michael | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
Gove he was guilty of indiscretion. She is no more guilty. Even during | :04:01. | :04:08. | |
13 years of new Labour 's psychodrama, I cannot remember an | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
act of hostility quite as naked as direct as publishing on a website | :04:14. | :04:23. | |
and intergovernmental letter. It suggests quite a lot of | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
conservatives do not think they will win next time. Why would there be a | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
leadership spat going on like this unless they thought there was a | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
vacancy? Inside the Cabinet, Theresa May is getting quite a bashing. In | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
the Sunday Times, someone has reported she is the date from hell. | :04:44. | :04:49. | |
She sidles up to people and is nakedly ambitious. I think that is | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
interesting. On the whole, nobody will understand the finesse | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
differences of opinion. It is not serious, it is not serious, it is | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
tactical. It'll be puzzling for most people and will probably fizzle out. | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
Has the Prime Minister slapped it down or will it rumble on? On the | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
politics of it, it will not fizzle out. What you have is Theresa May is | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
deadly serious about replacing David Cameron, not dislodging him but | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
replacing him if there is a vacancy. Michael Gove is deadly serious in | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
ensuring George Osborne succeeds David Cameron. It will be that | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
ongoing political rivalry. What is really interesting about this is the | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
Prime Minister is absolutely fed up with both of them. He is fed up with | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
Michael Gove full-size gearing of message. He had the row with Nick | :05:46. | :05:50. | |
Clegg and he had a row with Theresa May. He named Charles Barr and | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
criticised him in a lunch with the times. White brother he is the | :05:57. | :06:04. | |
Security adviser at the Home Office. -- he is the security advisor. He is | :06:05. | :06:13. | |
fed up with Theresa May for mounting an unannounced leader bid. What | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
separates Theresa May from Michael Gove on dealing with extremism? The | :06:19. | :06:25. | |
view from Michael Gove is that it shows no interest in Islamic | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
extremism until it manifests in violent form. Theresa May is | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
criticised for rolling back the programme which the previous Labour | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
government introduced to do with the previous Labour government | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
introduced to do with the Home Office has been made by other people | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
and made when the Home Office was not run by Theresa May but previous | :06:51. | :06:56. | |
home secretaries, even dating back to the Conservative government in | :06:57. | :06:57. | |
the 1990s. It is about the laxity of the Government. Michael Gove has | :06:58. | :07:03. | |
used extraordinary inflammatory language talking about draining the | :07:04. | :07:09. | |
swamp. I think Theresa May 's view is you can very easily inflamed | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
those emotions and create many more extremists the process. Michael Gove | :07:14. | :07:20. | |
would say that his approach is entirely consistent with the speech | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
the Prime Minister made to the Munich Security conference in 2011 | :07:25. | :07:25. | |
Munich Security conference in 2 11 when the Prime Minister talked about | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
warp the grape great religion of Islam. The Birmingham school system | :07:30. | :07:46. | |
is going to be one of the most reported systems in Europe. | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
Joining me now from Kent is Shadow Education Secretary Tristram Hunt. | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
Should parents of Birmingham children be worried that some of | :07:55. | :08:04. | |
their schools are in the grip of an Islamist takeover? I think parents | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
in Birmingham schools will be very disappointed by the political | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
infighting going on in the Government. The briefings, the | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
resignations, the apologies. The real apology that Michael Gove needs | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
to deliver it to the pupil -- the pupils and parents of Birmingham. | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
There was a potential threat of radicalisation. He fell to act for | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
four years. The Labour Party is asking, when did he know the fact | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
that radicalisation could have been taking place? What has been going on | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
for the last four years? What we in the Labour Party want to see if much | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
stronger systems of local oversight and accountability to situations | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
like this do not arise again. Is there, in your view, if some of the | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
Birmingham schools, an Islamist takeover? What we have seen in the | :08:54. | :09:03. | |
leaked Ofsted report so far is fears about cultural isolation and an | :09:04. | :09:07. | |
overconcentration on Islamic teaching within the curriculum. We | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
want young people to celebrate their cultural identity, celebrate | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
themselves as Muslims. We also want them to have an education which | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
makes them succeed in multicultural 21st-century Birmingham. We want to | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
be quite tough on moves towards gender segregation, a restricted | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
curriculum. Birmingham is a multicultural city. We need an | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
education system which celebrates that. What is wrong with gender | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
segregation? You went to an all boys school. Where you have gender | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
segregation, we have had a long tradition in Catholic schooling | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
Where you have a state education system, which is about gender | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
equality between boys and girls, and equality between boys and girls and | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
there is an unofficial policy of gender segregation, that is | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
unacceptable. We should not be tarring communities with the same | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
brush in terms of radicalisation. We do want to see a successful, | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
multicultural education. Two years ago, Ofsted rated Parkview as | :10:18. | :10:23. | |
outstanding. Now it looks like tomorrow it is going into special | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
measures. What is it up to? I do think there is an issue for Ofsted | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
that you can go from outstanding to inadequate so quickly. That is why | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
we are asking for a new criteria to be introduced to look at a broad and | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
balanced curriculum. We have healthy sex and relationship education. | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
There is a real issue this morning as the BBC has been reporting on the | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
night for the Department of Education. We are hearing that some | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
of those involved in the schools were not allowed to open a free | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
school on security grounds. They were allowed to allow one of the | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
schools to be taken over as an academy. We have a lack of oversight | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
and accountability in schools within Birmingham. What the Labour Party | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
wants is a local director of school standards to make sure we challenge | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
underperformance and make sure we get in confronting Islamic extremism | :11:23. | :11:29. | |
when it was in power? I was speaking to Hazel blears and she was very | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
clear about the prevent programme which they rolled out when in | :11:35. | :11:43. | |
office. A very atomised and fragmented school system where every | :11:44. | :11:51. | |
school is looked at from behind a desk in Whitehall and he put that | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
together and you do have an increased risk of chances of | :11:56. | :12:04. | |
radicalisation. You have attacked Mr Gove for gross negligence. Was it | :12:05. | :12:12. | |
the same -- you attacked Mr Gove for gross negligence. We are dealing | :12:13. | :12:21. | |
with a government which has been in since 2010. The Government needs to | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
hold the executive to account. We note the Department Michael Gove was | :12:27. | :12:34. | |
warned by a senior and respected head teacher about fears over | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
radicalism. What did he know and what did he act upon? We are hearing | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
more reports of conversations about fears, about radicalisation, taking | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
over some of the governing bodies of schools. We need to know what | :12:49. | :12:55. | |
ministers did. Let me continue. You mention the capital to prevent | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
strategy. Was it gross negligence for Labour to regularly consult a | :12:59. | :13:08. | |
man who once headed a group dedicated to making Britain an | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
Islamic state and wrote a book about schools full of Taliban style | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
decrees. I think the events in Birmingham are enormously | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
significant. About the nature of multiculturalism, the nature of | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
education, the role of civic education, the role of faith | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
schools. I will say to you this morning that Birmingham City | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
Council, Ofsted, the Labour Party, the Department for Education were | :13:38. | :13:45. | |
all involved in this conversation. In 2010, ministers were warned about | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
potential radicalisation of schools and they fell to act. We need to | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
know why, for years on, they allowed this situation to exacerbate. When | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
you look at the record of labour and this government 's record, there are | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
plenty of examples where both of you fail to act. Would it not be better | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
to drop the party politics and get together to confront this problem | :14:10. | :14:16. | |
for the sake of the children? There are a number of reports going on in | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
Birmingham. Some are led by the city council, some by the Department for | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
Education. Labour MPs this morning have come forward with the Bishop of | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
Birmingham talking about faith in schools. If you have a minister | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
failing to do their job, if you have a minister being given warnings in | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
2010 and failing to act on them for four years, the opposition has a | :14:40. | :14:42. | |
role to hold the executive to account. This is about the safety | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
and standards of teaching for pupils in Birmingham schools. It is about a | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
great education for these young people so they can succeed in a | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
modern, multicultural Britain. Do you agree with your Shadow Cabinet | :14:58. | :15:03. | |
colleague, Rachel Reeves, that Labour' as core voters are | :15:04. | :15:10. | |
abandoning the party? She was building on what Ed said the day | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
after the elections in Berwick. We have to make sure those communities | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
who we historically represent regard Labour as having a successful | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
message for them. I am passionate about making sure we have great | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
vocational and technical education, the great academic education in our | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
schools. If we have more work to do to get people to the polling | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
booths, we must do that. We must with listen to what she says. | :15:40. | :15:48. | |
David Cameron has staked a lot on stopping the former PM of Luxembourg | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
- named by one newspaper as 'the most dangerous man in Europe' | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
because of his federalist views - from becoming the next president | :15:55. | :15:57. | |
Mr Cameron has reportedly described Jean Claude Juncker as a 'face from | :15:58. | :16:04. | |
the 80s who cannot solve the problems of the next five years . | :16:05. | :16:07. | |
But with the German Chancellor Angela Merkel publicly backing Mr | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
Juncker, it's not a dead cert that Mr Cameron can stop his appointment. | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
This is what he had to say at the G7 summit earlier this week: | :16:14. | :16:19. | |
It is important that we have people running the institutions of Europe | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
who understand the need for change and reform. I would argue that view | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
is widely shared amongst other heads of government and heads of state in | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
the European Union. I am clear what I want to achieve for Britain's | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
future, to secure Britain's placed in a reformed European Union and I | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
have a strategy for delivering that, a strategy for dealing with an | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
issue which I think if we walk away from it would see Britain drift | :16:48. | :16:48. | |
towards the exits. We've been joined from Berlin | :16:49. | :16:50. | |
by the German MEP Elmar Brok who is a senior figure in the EPP - that's | :16:51. | :16:53. | |
the party backing Mr Juncker. He's also Chairman of the Union | :16:54. | :16:57. | |
of European Federalists. And in our Newcastle newsroom is | :16:58. | :17:02. | |
the former Conservative MEP Martin Callanan who until last month led | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
the European Conservatives and Reformists group in Brussels. | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
Welcome to you both. The United Kingdom, Sweden, Hungary, | :17:09. | :17:24. | |
they don't want Mr Junker, the new Italian Prime Minister doesn't look | :17:25. | :17:26. | |
keen either, should he bow out gracefully? First of all, he wants | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
to have Mr Junker but he wants to have his conditions. Will he become | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
president of the European Council, a high representative? It is a | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
discussion to be had in the next three or four weeks until the | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
European Parliament can elect the president of the European Council | :17:54. | :17:55. | |
after the proposal of the European Council, which has to be done after | :17:56. | :18:02. | |
consultation with the Parliament in the light of the European elections | :18:03. | :18:07. | |
and by a majority vote. If not Mr Junker, then who? There are many | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
available candidates, I am not going to mention them in front of someone | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
so esteemed as Elmar Brok. Give us one name that you would prefer? The | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
prime Minister of Sweden, Christine Lagarde, the minister from | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
Lithuania, these are people who have a record of old reform. Junker is | :18:30. | :18:38. | |
the ultimate Europe insider. We need radical inform. We need to respond | :18:39. | :18:45. | |
to the message the electorate gave us in the elections -- radical | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
reform. Junker said he had to lie in public, he allowed the security | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
services to conduct a dirty tricks campaign against his opponent. This | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
is not who we want leading the European Commission. Elmar Brok, | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
European Commission. Elmar Brok since the European voters have sent | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
a message to the parliament that they are not happy with the status | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
quo, why would you want a man who is synonymous with the status quo? | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
First of all what Martin has said is wrong. He has not done tricks | :19:15. | :19:24. | |
against his opponents. He was very clear on that. He is also the man | :19:25. | :19:31. | |
who was always for changes. He made dramatic changes as head of the Euro | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
group, came out of the economic crisis which was a result of the | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
financial crisis, made politics possible, to stop this incredible | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
financial sector influence of our states. I believe he is a man who | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
works on the programme which Mrs Merkel and others have decided in | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
Dublin, for the reform of the European Union, less government. But | :19:54. | :19:55. | |
European Union, less government But we need Europe more and he is not a | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
man from the 80s. He is a man of this century and in this century he | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
made his own policy. He is the winner of the European elections, he | :20:06. | :20:07. | |
has a majority will stop Mrs LANguard is not running because she | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
knows she will not get the majority in the European Parliament. -- | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
Christine Lagarde is not running. It is the Council of minister is that | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
decides. No, the European Parliament has the final word. The European | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
Council can make a proposal by majority in the light of the | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
European elections after consultation with the European | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
Parliament. The council cannot get a candidate against the will of the | :20:39. | :20:42. | |
European Parliament. Mr Junker has a majority in the European Parliament. | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
Theoretically he is right, the Parliament has do vote on the | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
candidates proposed by the council. I want to challenge the view that | :20:52. | :20:54. | |
somehow he won the European elections. There is no provision for | :20:55. | :21:00. | |
Jean Claude Junker to stand in the elections. He is saying that the EEP | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
party got the most number of seats in the Parliament but none of the | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
electorate knew they were taking part in this election. How many | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
people who voted Labour in the United Kingdom realised that their | :21:13. | :21:16. | |
vote would count towards a German socialist to be a candidate for the | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
commission of presidency is a nonsensical proposal. The elections | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
were 28 individual elections with hundreds of parties across Europe. | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
To try to claim there is a democratic mandate for somebody | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
nobody has heard from Luxembourg to take over the commission is a | :21:34. | :21:43. | |
nonsense. People should know him, if I should say that ironically. | :21:44. | :21:53. | |
Newspapers talking about members of the family of his wife with Nazi | :21:54. | :22:00. | |
links... What is the answer to Martin Callinan's point? I think it | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
is clear that British Conservatives have no candidate because they are | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
not a broad European family, they have not impacted on the selection | :22:12. | :22:15. | |
of top candidates but it is a form of isolation of the British Tory | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
Party. The Prime Minister said if Mr Junker is appointed it could lead to | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
Britain drifting towards the EU exit, is that credible? Is it | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
melodramatic? It is true that we want to renegotiate the | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
relationship. We want some serious reform in Europe so the people who | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
vote in a referendum will be able to vote to stay in if that is what they | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
want. We need a bold reformer, somebody prepared to engage. That is | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
not anti the interests of the UK. We need to recognise there is a problem | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
with public perception of the European Union. Elmar Brok is proud | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
to be one of the last bastions of federalism that that is not where | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
most of the public opinion is in Europe. I understand why he wants | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
his man installed but we need to take into account the message of the | :23:06. | :23:13. | |
letter -- the electorate. 25% of the publishing of France were prepared | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
to vote for an openly racist party. We can't just ignore the signal that | :23:17. | :23:25. | |
the electorate were sending us. If enthusiasm for federalism was at an | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
all-time low, it would be a slap in the face for the voters of Europe to | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
have a federalist as the president, would it not? 70, 80% of the members | :23:32. | :23:39. | |
of the European Parliament, selected by their people, are pro-Europeans. | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
These are the winners of the European elections. Even in France, | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
a majority of voters have voted pro-European and that should be | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
clear, not to make this a populist thing which is not only to do | :23:53. | 3:39:16 |