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to what the the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
With me are Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
of the London Evening Standard and Susie Boniface, | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
The Financial Times leads with upbeat economic figures, | :00:25. | :00:31. | |
which the government says mean Britain can negotiate Brexit | :00:32. | :00:37. | |
The Metro's front page is dedicated to the scandal-hit | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
The Daily Telegraph goes with the news that the first wave | :00:44. | :00:51. | |
The Guardian brings us the news that prosecutions for violence | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
towards women and girls has reached record high levels. | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
The Daily Telegraph goes with the news that the first wave | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
of doctors' strike has been called off. | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
The Daily Express leads with Brexit, and a warning from the former | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
UKIP leader Nigel Farage that he will hold the government | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
to account if it tries to row back on the commitment to leave the EU. | :01:06. | :01:13. | |
The Times front-page features the actress Renee Zellweger at the | :01:14. | :01:21. | |
premiere of the latest bridges -- Bridget Jones film. | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
Let us start with David Telegraph and the top line of David Davis, the | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
Minister for Brexit, writing off the UK 's future the single market. He | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
says it is very improbable that the UK will remain a member of the | :01:37. | :01:42. | |
single market. Susie, thoughts? It is very probable he will get a | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
spanking from Theresa May when she gets back because she has been very | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
careful not to say whether in or out of the single market. She is leading | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
a country into negotiations break said she doesn't want all of her | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
cards on the table but she has one of her ministers say to stuff the | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
single market and throw it out the window. It is not only helpful and I | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
think he would get a telling off. We have had a whole day or Brexit | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
broadcasting and I am sure you have been glued to the TV. Martin, we had | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
Theresa May earlier today saying that the points-based immigration | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
system may not be introduced. How does that fit with what David Davis | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
appears to be saying here? I think it does sit with it because she is | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
talking about controlling immigration in some shape or form | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
and what David Davis is saying is that as the European Union various | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
leaders have made clear, we can't have the single market and no free | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
movement, they are not prepared to trade on that, so David Davis is | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
saying that we need to have some control over immigration policy so | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
we are unlikely to be able to restrict free movement while | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
retaining access to the single market in the way we have now. | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
Theresa May is talking about the mechanism with which to control | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
immigration and she says with a points-based system you don't get | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
control over the numbers that you have people who qualify so you would | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
have something akin to what we already have, which is a Visa system | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
for shortage occupations unskilled labour so that is where this all | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
fits. I don't think you would get into too much trouble because your | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
spelling out the logic of the position. The government... There is | :03:21. | :03:28. | |
no logic to the position! The panellist has made it clear her | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
priority is to deliver our control over immigration said the logic of | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
that is that you will be unlikely to have access to parts of Europe under | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
trade agreements and there will be a specific and as yet undefined | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
steel... You are Theresa May and you are running the country, you want | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
people to not say anything too stupid at the moment because we're | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
only a couple of months in and you need to maintain some kind of | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
access, whatever that is, to millions of customers, 500 million | :03:58. | :04:00. | |
people that all of our businesses want to trade with and we want them | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
to trade with us so she needs things to be open as possible but Davis is | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
shutting something down already, so I think he will be in some serious | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
trouble. Martin, he is not stupid? I don't think you're stupid, I think | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
everything is very unclear at the moment, quite clearly! At the moment | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
there will be a trade-off between free movement or a restriction on | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
free movement and access to the single market as it exists now but | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
it does not mean to say we can't specify deals on financial services | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
and so on which allow free access potentially or some kind of deal. | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
There is another Brexit related story in the Financial Times, the | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
front page, which is also David Davis hailing the robust state of | :04:45. | :04:47. | |
the economy after the Brexit vote and we had a series of bits of data | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
in the last two months or so which have shown are going up and down, | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
and this month it is up. It has been contradictory, but whatever you say | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
about Brexit, leave or remain, whether you think we have not had | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
world for three so everything they have said is wrong or you think that | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
there wasn't a crash so everything is OK, the issue on all of it is | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
yet. We haven't had any of these things yet. The things we were | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
promised or threatened haven't happened yet, it is only been two | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
months you can't judge the robustness of an economy eight | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
weeks. You have to look back over 50 years' time and look back and see | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
whether we did better or worse whether we could the other way. I | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
agree with you on that but actually what is true is that George Osborne | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
was saying there had to be an emergency budget within a week of | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
the vote and that some people were saying that the whole thing was | :05:42. | :05:44. | |
going to be an absolute catastrophe from day one and you would already | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
see investment decline in so one and it is quite true that on the figures | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
since the vote, they have been relatively positive and consumer | :05:54. | :05:56. | |
confidence and spending has been pretty good after the initial dip, | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
but as you quite rightly say, it is a short-term thing we need to see | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
what the longer term effects are, but the worst warnings have not been | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
realised. Nor have the best ones, the best promises haven't manifested | :06:09. | :06:14. | |
yet. Well, they can't because the best ones can't. Nothing can happen | :06:15. | :06:24. | |
until we leave the EU. Some people were saying it was going to be a | :06:25. | :06:31. | |
very big short-term hit in the first place, never mind the longer term | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
affect so I think that aspect of it hasn't happened and that is what | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
this story is talking about. Clearly where the economy goes in the medium | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
and the longer term is a different issue and it is all to play for, | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
quite clearly. Theresa May herself has said in China that they could be | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
difficult times ahead in the economy. Some of that is nothing to | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
do with Brexit, some of it is factors that were existing before | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
this which are doubts about China and a hole in the budget from George | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
Osborne 's last budget, the financial hole they're needed | :07:05. | :07:07. | |
plugging and was unplugged, so there were certain things | :07:08. | :07:30. | |
that were already problematic about the economy, strong though it | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
appeared to be on the surface, that can still come back and hit off | :07:34. | :07:36. | |
anyway, never mind the impact of Brexit. Brexit makes things more | :07:37. | :07:38. | |
complex. There is an extra degree of complexity on top of everything and | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
one of the things that has happened today, which is not in the paper | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
today, but in David Davis 's speech, he was asked about financial | :07:45. | :07:46. | |
passports, the business of London financial services trading with the | :07:47. | :07:48. | |
EU. His answer was no detail at all. It is ridiculously complicated and | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
he actually said it was straightforward but very complex, | :07:51. | :07:52. | |
which I think tells you everything you need to know about how Brexit | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
and David Davis works. We will park that and return to which week upon | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
week upon week. We will look at the Guardian which has a headline about | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
violent crimes against women hitting a record high. They have an | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
interview with the direct republic because -- prosecutions and looking | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
at the role of social media. When you see that headline and the strap | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
underneath, that bit about social media being used to humiliate, the | :08:16. | :08:21. | |
immediate assumption would be this is people on Twitter complaining | :08:22. | :08:23. | |
about people being mean to them but when you drill down into the story | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
there have been, for example, nearly 13,000 cases of stalking and | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
harassment in 2015 and 16 and 70% of those involved cases of domestic | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
abuse. This is not like some of us all get on social media all the with | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
someone sending a tweet saying they don't like your face or you are a | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
silly cow. This is people who know the person in question and are | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
setting up fake profiles and posting revenge porn being prosecuted for it | :08:53. | :08:55. | |
and harassing and stalking their exes and partners and mothers of | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
their children and this is a new means of doing it and it is making | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
it worse than the figures are going up. Interestingly there are a lot of | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
guilty pleas because they are banks to write some when they get caught | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
out, if anyone at home is thinking of posting revenge porn, it is on | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
your phone or computable and traceable to your address, you can't | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
wriggle out of it, you definitely did it. On the one hand it is | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
terrible that there is a massive increase in these cases of violence | :09:23. | :09:25. | |
and harassment but on the other hand it is great that we can catch people | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
when they are done it. The positive news about this and we ran a front | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
page on our -- ran a story on our front page today about the rapes and | :09:36. | :09:45. | |
murders in violent crimes related to domestic abuse, but the good thing | :09:46. | :09:52. | |
about it is that the figures are horrendous, obviously, but more | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
people are coming forward, which is why to an extent there are more | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
cases coming to court because more people at the competence to come | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
forward and police and prosecutors don't get it right every single time | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
by any means but on the other hand they do take it a lot more seriously | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
and they are more effective at delivering results in these cases | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
than they perhaps once were and they are also responding, as you say | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
here, to some of the evolving techniques that people using social | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
media and so on to harass people. For example, when people have | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
historically was stalking, it would be someone following someone on the | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
street, their ex-boyfriend following their former girlfriend, but now you | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
take that straight into their own by continuing on social media and there | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
is no sanctuary from it. Someone can leave an abusive partner, and it can | :10:39. | :10:42. | |
be men as well as women, they can leave a partner and perhaps even | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
managed to get a bed in one of the increasingly scarce refuges that are | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
available to them, thank you to the coalition for getting rid of them, | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
and once they are there, even though they aren't in physical contact with | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
the person who abuse them, they still have them in the life and they | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
can't escape them because they set up fake profiles and send tweets on | :11:01. | :11:08. | |
Facebook their friends. It is a modern problem, the pervasiveness of | :11:09. | :11:10. | |
social media that they can reach into your private sphere. Let us | :11:11. | :11:13. | |
move into a story that the Guardian and the Telegraph have about the | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
doctor striping called off next week. A big chink appearing between | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
the BMA and the junior doctors themselves? I think so, and I think | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
it is a doubt within the medical profession, there is a split across | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
the medical profession, as to whether this particular first | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
strike, and indeed the length of strikes they are talking about, | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
these five-day strikes, would be counter-productive and actually harm | :11:40. | :11:41. | |
patients, and the fact is that if you are cancelling five days of | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
operations and so on by definition patients will be armed and in this | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
particular case, obviously the doctors, it appears that the junior | :11:50. | :11:58. | |
doctors themselves, some of the doctors themselves are not confident | :11:59. | :12:00. | |
that they can go on strike and other people will cover for them in a way | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
that will protect patients so the whole thing has been postponed a | :12:04. | :12:06. | |
lease for the first strike and then we have to seem really what happens | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
after that. I suspect it could be that the whole thing crumbles | :12:10. | :12:12. | |
because they might lose public support if they go down that road. I | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
don't think the issue is public support, the issue with support for | :12:18. | :12:20. | |
the doctors in the BMA. The problem is initially they had in the same | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
place and they were all against the seven-day contract which dealt me -- | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
Jeremy Hunt wanted to bring in and then there were compromises and the | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
BMA said they should accept it but the doctor said it was still a | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
rubbish deal that would affect patient safety so they parted ways a | :12:36. | :12:40. | |
bit but then the BMA has changed its views now and it is trying to use a | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
ballot from last year about strike action to maintain five days of | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
strikes at a time but most doctors think strike action might be just | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
about acceptable but to do it five days will cause harm they can't do | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
that is doctors. The chairman of the BMA was agreeing that the deal which | :12:57. | :13:12. | |
the BMA agreed at arbitration previously was actually a good deal | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
and because there was a vote against it by the junior doctors, which is | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
fair enough if they want to vote against it, but the person who is | :13:20. | :13:21. | |
now leading this was saying that the deal on offer was a good one and | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
acceptable. The separation is between the people at the head of | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
the BMA and the doctors but I think most members of the public, if they | :13:28. | :13:29. | |
ask the medical opinion from Jeremy Hunt or Doctor would go with the | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
doctor. I am not so sure about that. Not on the medical opinion, but as | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
to whether they should have a five-day strike or not, I'm not | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
sure. I think that is a danger for them. Allow to get to stop. That is | :13:39. | :13:45. | |
it for The Papers tonight. Don't forget the front pages | :13:46. | :13:46. | |
are all on the BBC News website, where you can read a detailed review | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
of the papers. It's all there for you | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
at bbc.co.uk/papers. Each night's edition of The Papers | :13:53. | :13:53. | |
is posted there shortly Headlines coming up in a few | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
minutes. Good evening. There's a humid and | :13:58. | :14:17. | |
sticky feel to the weather outside across many parts of the country and | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
it will remain that way for the next couple of days. We have clear spells | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
in the cloud and this was the sunset earlier on in North Ayrshire, by | :14:26. | :14:27. | |
Weather | :14:28. | :14:28. |