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Hello there and welcome to Tuesday in Parliament. | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
Coming up: The schools minister orders an investigation | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
after the second leak of tests for primary school children. | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
The government's urged to act quickly on its pledge to take child | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
And the Home Secretary tells MPs why she thinks the UK | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
As Home Secretary, from everything I have seen, in my experience, we are | :00:32. | :00:43. | |
safer and more secure inside the European Union than outside. | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
But first: Ministers have launched a hunt for a "rogue marker" | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
who leaked a SATs test to a journalist. | :00:50. | :00:51. | |
MPs were told that Key Stage Two English spelling and grammar test | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
had been "mistakenly uploaded" onto a secure website. | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
And an individual with access to the site then leaked the test | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
The spelling, punctuation and grammar test was taken by | :00:59. | :01:02. | |
600,000 children in their final year of state primary school | :01:03. | :01:05. | |
It's the second time in three weeks a primary school exam has been | :01:06. | :01:12. | |
The government was forced to scrap a test for half a million children | :01:13. | :01:18. | |
aged six and seven after it emerged that it had been posted | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
with practice materials three months early. | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
Nick Gibb came to the Commons to reassure MPs. | :01:25. | :01:31. | |
We have no evidence to suggest that any sensitive information entered | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
the public domain before children started taking the test today. And | :01:38. | :01:43. | |
the tests are going ahead as planned. My officials were | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
monitoring social media and other platforms through the night and | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
found no sign of materials being made available. He said he would ask | :01:52. | :01:58. | |
the boss of person, who employ the markers, to investigate two issues. | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
First, how did that come to be uploaded? It's clearly a mistake | :02:05. | :02:13. | |
which not have been possible. Secondly, I ask that all information | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
is interrogated so that the culprit who leaked this sensitive | :02:18. | :02:18. | |
information be identified. Just three weeks ago, | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
it was discovered that another of the tests had been published | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
in advance as a practice paper on the Department's own website - | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
and had to be withdrawn. To adapt Oscar Wilde, to lose one | :02:26. | :02:38. | |
test may be regarded as a mistake, but to lose both looks like | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
carelessness. You really could not make it up. This is a serious breach | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
on top of a series of multiple failures. How on earth can parents | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
have confidence in the assessment regime when the Department for | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
Education has come lately lost control of the tests it is | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
responsible for? It seems to me, having listened to the Minister and | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
the statement about the U-turn on academies recently, that the | :03:11. | :03:13. | |
Department for Education should be put in special measures. What | :03:14. | :03:19. | |
confidence can we have, when the minister cannot even get the basics | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
right? How can we have confidence that they will get the big issues | :03:24. | :03:31. | |
right in education? Look, this process of testing 600,000 pupils is | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
complex, as the Honourable lady will know. We use contractors and on this | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
occasion a mistake was made in uploading the material to a secure | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
website, we took action swiftly when we discovered the mistake, as we did | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
in the spelling test was put on line three weeks ago. It is how you react | :03:52. | :03:56. | |
to these issues that determines the confidence of a government. And we | :03:57. | :04:05. | |
acted swiftly on both occasions. This parent has a child approaching | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
both key stage one and Key stage two, and I find it outrageous that | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
an individual has put my child's chances at risk by making this | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
league. Does the Minister agree with me that it would be better for the | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
opposition to keep that in mind rather than playing politics with | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
children's test results? I do agree with my honourable friend. The whole | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
system does depend on the integrity of professionals. We need a senior | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
markers with access to the material weeks before it goes live. We need | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
test developers with access to individual questions months | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
beforehand. We test the tests with a large number of pupils before we are | :04:50. | :04:55. | |
sure that they are of the right degree of demand. So a whole range | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
of people have access to the material before it goes live. The | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
Minister cannot deal with it, the Department and organise, and the | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
schools do not understand. Does he agree that primary assessment in our | :05:10. | :05:15. | |
schools is nothing short of shambolic? Yet again the | :05:16. | :05:17. | |
professional judgment of professionals is ignored by | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
politicians trying to make short-term gains. How does he reply? | :05:22. | :05:27. | |
These tests were developed by educational professionals, a huge | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
number of such professionals were involved in the development of these | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
tests. A large number of professional educators, head | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
teachers, experienced teachers, were involved in the review of the | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
curriculum. These assessments are assessing the ability of schools to | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
deliver the new curriculum. That new curriculum is more demanding. We do | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
not avoid that point. Now to the Lords for the latest | :05:54. | :05:55. | |
round of parliamentary ping pong. Peers were dealing with the last few | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
amendments where they disagree The Lords reluctantly | :06:01. | :06:02. | |
dropped their objections They then moved on to | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
the government's housing bill. This amendment seeks to do two | :06:06. | :06:21. | |
things. Firstly, it seeks to put beyond doubt that sufficient funding | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
will be available to local authorities to deliver at least one | :06:27. | :06:30. | |
new affordable homes for each higher value property sold. In London this | :06:31. | :06:46. | |
would mean at least two for one. It gives the opportunity for social | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
rented housing where a case was made to the Secretary of State to | :06:50. | :06:54. | |
consider. I understand the reluctance some of this House have | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
about pressing the issue again. I have thought long and hard about | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
these issues and I would not put this forward unless I thought it was | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
of such vital importance. But unless we get this replacement policy right | :07:08. | :07:17. | |
now, funding and discretion, we will inevitably see fewer genuinely | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
affordable homes available. There does come a point when you have to | :07:21. | :07:26. | |
say that fighting back against the will of the elected House is not a | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
profitable course to follow, either as a collective, or as individuals. | :07:32. | :07:38. | |
The government is not able to produce figures defining the meaning | :07:39. | :07:41. | |
of high-value, the number of properties affected, locally or | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
nationally, the likely rate of vacancies, the cost of administering | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
the scheme, how much they will require councils to pay upfront | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
annually, since the bill envisages such payments will be required, and | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
whether or not sales are affected. To misquote Groucho Marx, a child of | :08:00. | :08:07. | |
five could understand the impact of this policy, bring me a child of | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
five. Or, perhaps in these days, a special adviser. Our manifesto made | :08:13. | :08:18. | |
it clear that we wanted to increase home ownership and drive up the | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
availability of new homes, this enables us to deliver both of these | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
commitments, the receipt will be used to give up to 1.3 million | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
housing association tenants the same level of right to buy discount as is | :08:33. | :08:39. | |
enjoyed by local authority tenants for decades. And, as is equally | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
important, it will provide receipts that local authorities who enter | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
into agreements with us can use to provide affordable homes. I urge the | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
House Other Place, recognising that this | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
is a manifesto commitment, and that is the comments have offered | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
financial privilege as a reason for rejecting our amendments, we should | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
be wary of proposing an alternative which would invite the same | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
response. I urge the noble Lords to accept the Commons reasoning and not | :09:13. | :09:13. | |
support this amendment. But peers rejected those appeals - | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
backing Lord Kerslake's amendment and sending the bill back | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
to the Commons again. You are watching Tuesday in | :09:19. | :09:25. | |
Parliament. Everyone wants a negotiated outcome | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
to the junior doctors' dispute, the Health Secretary | :09:32. | :09:33. | |
has told the Commons. Jeremy Hunt insisted the proposed | :09:34. | :09:34. | |
contract was a good deal, and restated his commitment | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
to a seven-day-a-week NHS. But the SNP argued the contract | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
would lead to over-work. Talks between the British Medical | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
Association and the Department of Health began again | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
on Monday night All of us on this side of the House | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
welcome the resumption of talks It's in nobody's interest, not | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
the Government, not junior doctors, certainly not patients, for this | :09:58. | :10:06. | |
dispute to drag on any longer. Can I implore the | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
Health Secretary to do all he can to find a reasonable | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
compromise this week which will keep doctors in the NHS and which will | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
ensure we have a motivated, well trained and fairly rewarded | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
workforce to continue delivering the excellent care | :10:27. | :10:31. | |
we all want to see? Well, can I thank her for | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
her very reasonable tone. Absolutely, I give | :10:38. | :10:39. | |
her that assurance. We have always wanted a negotiated | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
outcome to this dispute. That's why we paused the | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
introduction of the new contracts last November in order to give | :10:48. | :10:50. | |
a chance for talks to succeed. That's why this week, | :10:51. | :10:54. | |
I have said, we will give a further pause | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
in the introduction of the new contracts to see | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
if we can get a negotiated outcome. In his recent letter to the head | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
of the BMA, the Secretary of State offered | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
to discuss improving work-life balance, especially | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
for people, he said, with family | :11:10. | :11:11. | |
responsibilities. How exactly does he plan to do | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
this with a contract that the Government's own quality | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
impact assessment has identified It is worth saying | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
that the reason for this dispute is a manifesto commitment | :11:22. | :11:30. | |
for a seven-day NHS that this Government has made | :11:31. | :11:33. | |
to the people of England that the SNP has not made | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
to the people of Scotland and the weekend effect is something | :11:37. | :11:39. | |
that doesn't just happen in England. There are studies | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
in Scotland as well. Will my right honourable friend bear | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
in mind that Secretary of State Dean Rusk always used | :11:47. | :11:48. | |
to say that jaw-jaw was better than war-war and how welcome | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
it is that the negotiations have resumed with the BMA | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
on this difficult problem? Will he also accept that everyone | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
wishes goodwill to those talks so that we can get | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
meaningful agreement that ensures a seven-day | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
NHS for the benefit The claim is that the only issue | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
is Saturday pay whereas what they tell me is they fear | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
the danger of exhaustion. Has he seen the analysis | :12:18. | :12:21. | |
by the Cass Business School suggesting it is impossible | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
to avoid high levels of fatigue What I've actually done in | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
the new contract is precisely tried to address those issues by reducing | :12:29. | :12:36. | |
the maximum number of hours that junior doctors can be | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
asked to work every week By stopping junior doctors | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
being asked to work six nights in a row or seven | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
long days in a row. These are steps forward | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
and I think she might want to look at Channel 4 | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
fact check and other independent analysis | :12:58. | :12:59. | |
of the safety aspects of the new contract | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
which say that this contract I would just say that just stating | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
it doesn't make it happen. They have looked at the rotas | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
as put out as exemplars, and they were not able to avoid | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
high levels of fatigue. I would think the Secretary of State | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
for working so tirelessly to get the BMA back | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
to the negotiation table. Can he confirm that Saturday | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
pay for junior doctors will be 30% premium, | :13:27. | :13:28. | |
which is above that for any of the hard-working midwives, | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
nurses, firefighters, I thank her for her question | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
and she makes a very, very important point that the proposals | :13:35. | :13:42. | |
on the table with the new contract are incredibly generous compared | :13:43. | :13:45. | |
to the other people working in hospitals and that is why | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
it is important that we have some flexibility from the BMA on Saturday | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
pay so that we can deliver this seven-day service | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
that we all want. It is a very good deal | :13:58. | :13:59. | |
for junior doctors. Meanwhile, a shadow health minister | :14:00. | :14:01. | |
congratulated Jeremy Hunt. Can I start by congratulating | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
the Secretary of State for becoming the longest serving | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
Health Secretary in history? It's an important landmark, not | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
least because it's the first target Can I start by thanking | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
my honourable friend for his generous | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
congratulations are earlier and indeed for making history himself | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
by being the first opposition person I can remember actually | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
congratulating Government The Government has played down fears | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
that child refugees stranded in Europe may not be resettled | :14:29. | :14:37. | |
in Britain for seven months. The UK is to accept a number | :14:38. | :14:42. | |
of unaccompanied child refugees, but only those already in Europe | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
before the 20th March. That decision followed pressure | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
from MPs and Peers to accept a change to the Immigration Bill put | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
forward by Labour's Lord Dubs, placing a duty on the Government | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
to accept lone children into the UK. Answering an urgent question, | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
the Immigration Minister We are already acting to implement | :15:03. | :15:04. | |
the bill amendments. We have started discussions | :15:05. | :15:10. | |
with local Government. We have begun work with European | :15:11. | :15:12. | |
partners and NGOs We will bring refugee | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
children to the UK And I am proud that | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
the commitment of this country, this Government is to help those | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
in need both within and outside Europe stands in comparison | :15:27. | :15:29. | |
with any other country in the world. His comments came after | :15:30. | :15:39. | |
Downing Street was reported to have said the first children would arrive | :15:40. | :15:41. | |
by the end of this year. We hear the warm words and we hear | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
the commitment, and yet at the same time, Number 10 seems | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
to be dragging its feet. To have only the first children | :15:48. | :15:49. | |
by the end of the year We know that Help Refugees, | :15:50. | :15:52. | |
Citizens UK and the Red Cross already have details | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
of children in Europe with family Unicef said yesterday, | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
with the political will, these children could have | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
their cases processed and be here in time, packing their pencil | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
cases for the new school year So why will the Government | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
not make a commitment to at least clear all of the family | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
cases that they have in the system already by the time we get | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
to the summer holidays? We do intend to make progress | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
cheering the course of this year and therefore the first | :16:23. | :16:30. | |
children will arrive before the end of this year but that | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
does not mean... It will take seven months | :16:33. | :16:34. | |
and I think she will recognise from everything that I have said both | :16:35. | :16:37. | |
last night and also today, that we are quickly making progress | :16:38. | :16:40. | |
to implement the provisions within the Dubs amendments | :16:41. | :16:42. | |
in the immigration bill. Britain is being generous in its | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
support for refugees both in the region and vulnerable people coming | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
to this country but there is a big danger, because human | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
traffickers are evil people who will exploit any opportunity | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
for their vile trade, that the message will go out | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
from these people, Britain is open now to child refugees, | :17:04. | :17:05. | |
send us your children, Will the Minister give us | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
a commitment today that the scheme will be properly funded | :17:10. | :17:16. | |
and will he give us some idea of what he's going to do | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
about funding the scheme, rather than just describing | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
the present existing arrangements? What we need from the Minister today | :17:23. | :17:24. | |
is not placatory words, we need a decisive action plan | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
with a very clear timetable. We want to make progress quickly | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
in the weeks and months ahead. On funding, these are issues | :17:33. | :17:38. | |
that we are discussing He will be aware that | :17:39. | :17:41. | |
unaccompanied asylum-seeking children are already funded | :17:42. | :17:44. | |
when they arrive in the UK and that there are clear funding | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
arrangements to local authorities. I think we need to be | :17:50. | :17:52. | |
cognisant of that and we will be looking closely at how we | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
implement consistent with a number Concerns over levels | :17:56. | :17:58. | |
of immigration into the UK were raised in the Lords, | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
where one former Cabinet minister asked if Labour was dedicated | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
to an open door policy to let more The million or so refugees that | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
Angela Merkel has accepted will soon have the right to come here | :18:13. | :18:20. | |
and the Turks could be the next, adding to the overload | :18:21. | :18:26. | |
on our hospitals, schools and houses, greatly | :18:27. | :18:28. | |
to the detriment Is he also surprised | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
that the effect of uncontrolled immigration from the EU | :18:33. | :18:39. | |
on the stability of our nation and on | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
the welfare of working people appears not to be of | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
concern, with very few exceptions, Since 2010, reforms have cut abuse | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
from the student and family visa systems and raised standards | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
in the work routes. In addition, of course, | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
our recent negotiations in Europe have brought to fruition | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
the provision for a new settlement agreement on EU migrants with | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
the requirement for a seven-year The minister has told | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
us how wonderful is the Government's investment | :19:14. | :19:21. | |
in public services, apparently to meet all the concerns | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
of the noble Lord, Lord Vincent, but could he then | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
explain why there is a shortage of primary school places, | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
for example, in London? Why our health service in so many | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
areas is in crisis, why there is a problem with social care | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
beds becoming unviable? Why is all of that happening | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
if the Government's policies towards the public services | :19:43. | :19:44. | |
have been so benign? Can the noble Minister tell | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
the House why the Government is not building more new hospitals, | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
schools and housing, using the additional income | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
the Government is receiving from foreign workers who are paying | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
significant sums in Very considerable sums | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
are being expended in these areas and indeed we expect | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
to deliver 600,000 new school places I would like to remind the House | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
that the National Health would not run if it weren't for people | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
from abroad with high qualifications who are willing to work | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
in the National Health Whether he has had any success | :20:21. | :20:23. | |
in establishing a bipartisan policy towards reducing immigration to tens | :20:24. | :20:31. | |
of thousands a year, or is the opposition | :20:32. | :20:38. | |
dedicated to an open door, migrants in with no idea of | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
how we shall pay not just for the schools and the hospitals | :20:42. | :20:49. | |
but the roads, the water works, the power stations | :20:50. | :20:52. | |
and everything else? Whose side does my noble friend | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
think the opposition are on? The British people | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
or the foreigners? I believe that all members of this | :21:01. | :21:03. | |
House would recognise the importance of a controlled migration system | :21:04. | :21:16. | |
that brings us the best and is the The Home Secretary, | :21:17. | :21:22. | |
Theresa May, appeared in front of the committee of MPs that | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
scrutinises her department. It was taking evidence | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
from her ahead of June's referendum Mrs May made a speech in April | :21:31. | :21:32. | |
saying the UK should remain in. The committee chairman began | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
by asking about the deportation The Prime Minister was quite | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
critical of the Home Office last week at the liaison committee as far | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
as foreign national prisoners are concerned because there are 4217 EU | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
nationals in our prisons who should not really be there, they should be | :21:52. | :21:56. | |
back in their own countries, Just to refresh your | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
memory, he said that the Government should | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
have done better. Now, in making the argument | :22:05. | :22:06. | |
for staying in the EU, surely a powerful point must be because we | :22:07. | :22:10. | |
are in the EU, we can send back their nationals after they finish | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
their sentences and I know that you have been very strong | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
in all the meetings at the EU summits trying to get these | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
countries to take their foreign | :22:26. | :22:27. | |
nationals back. Now the Prime Minister has said | :22:28. | :22:29. | |
you should have done better. What more can we do if we stay | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
in the EU to persuade Poland and Ireland and all these | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
other countries Well, first of all, chairman, | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
I believe that the Prime Minister's response on foreign | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
national prisoners was in response to a question as you | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
asked him on this issue. I know this has been a matter | :22:48. | :22:49. | |
of interest to you I think what he said was that | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
in some cases I can't remember exactly | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
the phrase he used... He also said that it was | :22:56. | :22:58. | |
incredibly difficult in some cases to do this and for a whole variety | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
of reasons and he also, I think, made clear that the National | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
Security Council actually looks at this issue on a six monthly basis | :23:11. | :23:13. | |
and one of the things that the Prime Minister has been very keen to do | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
is to ensure that this is a question that is taken across Government | :23:17. | :23:20. | |
and isn't simply a matter of one department lobbying in order to | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
improve the way we do this I think there are advantages | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
obviously to being within It's not just about | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
the possible return of foreign national offenders after they have | :23:35. | :23:38. | |
completed their sentences, but it's also starting to now | :23:39. | :23:40. | |
operate, the prisoner transfer framework and the prisoner transfer | :23:41. | :23:48. | |
agreements that we have people to ensure that they can | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
complete their sentences. But it has clearly not worked | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
in the last six years. If we come out, will it be more | :23:57. | :23:59. | |
difficult to persuade EU partners If we are making the case to stay | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
in, as you and I are, and this committee | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
is not having an inquiry into this because we will probably | :24:10. | :24:11. | |
not agree a report, But one of the positive arguments | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
for staying in is to say that if we stay in, | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
you can go to the Polish home affairs minister | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
and say, well, we've got a thousand | :24:22. | :24:23. | |
Poles in our prisons. Well, one of the reasons why it | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
hasn't happened is because the prisoner transfer framework | :24:27. | :24:35. | |
hasn't been fully put into place That is in process at the moment | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
but the fundamental point that you are making I think | :24:39. | :24:45. | |
is a right one which is that if you are part of the | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
European Union, dealing directly with people, | :24:49. | :24:50. | |
operating within these frameworks, then it is easier, I believe, | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
being Home Secretary from everything I've seen from my experience, | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
that we are safer and more secure | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
inside the European Union The by-election in London mayor | :25:01. | :25:02. | |
Sadiq Khan's former Tooting constituency has been formally | :25:03. | :25:09. | |
triggered after Labour's Chief Whip moved the writ to fill the vacancy | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
in the House of Commons. Rosie Winterton moved the writ | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
to initiate the poll at the start of Tuesday's Commons' business, | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
and the Labour whips' office said it expects the by-election | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
to take place on either Mr Khan is stepping down as an MP | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
after he comfortably defeated the Conservative Zac Goldsmith | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
to become Mayor of London. And that's it for now, | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
but do join me at the same time tomorrow when among other things | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
we'll have the highlights from PMQs. But for now from me, | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
Alicia McCarthy, goodbye. | :25:47. | :25:53. |