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Hello, welcome to the programme, we're on BBC 2 and the BBC | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
Coming up, a 32-year-old dad of four who used to sell bouncy castles | :00:12. | :00:21. | |
in London is believed to be the British man who appears | :00:22. | :00:24. | |
in the latest propaganda video by so-called Islamic State. | :00:25. | :00:26. | |
We'll tell you what's known so far about Siddhartha Dhar who spoke | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
When I look to Britain and can speak as an ex-Muslim on issues like | :00:30. | :00:39. | |
smoking, music and a society which is largely based on unity, | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
pornography, it's not something any practising Muslim would enjoy living | :00:46. | :00:46. | |
under. Also today, can drugs really make | :00:47. | :00:47. | |
you smarter, more productive, Compare it to a camera that's in | :00:48. | :01:01. | |
focus and a camera that's not. Right now everything feels sharp and | :01:02. | :01:03. | |
before it was blurry. And later, the moment a blind woman | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
sees for the first time in 16 years Hello, welcome to the programme, | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
we're on BBC 2 and the BBC Throughout the programme we'll bring | :01:10. | :01:24. | |
you the latest breaking news and developing stories | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
and as always we're keen to hear from you on all the stories we're | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
covering this morning. You can watch the programme online | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
wherever you are via the bbc news app or our website | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
bbc.co.uk/Victoria and you can also subscribe to all our features | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
on the news app, by going to add topics and searching | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
Victoria Derbyshire. It seems so simple, a drug that | :01:47. | :01:47. | |
can make you smarter, improve your memory, | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
your concentration or motivation and generally help you perform | :01:51. | :01:54. | |
better at work or when preparing Smart drugs are growing | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
in popularity but leading experts are warning that there are no | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
long-term safety studies The Home Office have told us | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
they don't plan on including them in an upcoming bill banning drugs | :02:06. | :02:12. | |
with "psychoactive effect" - Our reporter Benjamin Zand | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
has been investigating. These are smart drugs. They look to | :02:16. | :02:38. | |
extend our cognitive ability to the reactions we have. A series of drugs | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
that people in homes, offices and universities across the United | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
Kingdom are using to apparently make their brain better. Many are drugs | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
you might have heard of before with conventional uses, things like | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
Ritalin, usually used for ADHD and narcolepsy. Others you might not | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
have, a banned performance enhancer for example. One of the most talked | :03:05. | :03:12. | |
about is a drug used traditionally for narcolepsy, being used as a | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
cognitive enhancer, a drug being used to make your brain work like no | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
other. It's a cognitive enhancer so it shows there were improvements in | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
so-called higher cognitive functionions like planning and | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
decision-making. It's been labelled the world's first safe smart drug | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
with some studies suggesting it's nonaddictive, has few side effects | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
and that it works. But can all this really be true? I am trying to find | :03:42. | :03:48. | |
out. At this point, smart drugs just seem like miracle pills. I've been | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
reading reviews and some are ridiculous, people saying they have | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
written full university disitations in a matter of days, they have | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
managed to do work that would usually take them a week in one day | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
and that their overall concentration levels have sky-rocketed. To be | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
entirely honest, I struggle to believe this, it sounds too good to | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
be true. So what I'm currently doing is ordering some of the drug off the | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
Internet, it's one of the main drugs people take. Modafanil. I'm going to | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
take some of the drug to see if it works. I met up with an old friend | :04:22. | :04:33. | |
to find out more about Modafanil while I waited for my supply to | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
arrive. Jason is an athlete and entrepreneur. It turns out, he's | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
been taking the drug I was about to take for years. | :04:43. | :05:00. | |
What happened? You didn't swallow it? I didn't swallow it. I can feel | :05:01. | :05:07. | |
it working. You actually can? Yes. What does it feel like? When I was | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
talking to you there, I found myself getting quicker and quicker. No? ! I | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
felt like I was talking too quick, trying to get too much in. Describe | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
it? Without sounding weird, it sounded a bit warmer, like I feel a | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
bit warmer, so I feel like my body temperature's increased. You feel | :05:28. | :05:30. | |
sharper. I could probably compare to it a camera that's in focus and a | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
camera that's out of focus. Normally everything is softer, right now | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
everything feels sharp. When you first took it, was it an | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
instant effect? Yes. I found the effect straightaway. My productivity | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
increased massively. I knew that I wanted to keep taking it. | :05:52. | :05:59. | |
OK, after a week of waiting, my parcel has arrived from the | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
undisclosed address in India to my desk in London. I don't usually take | :06:06. | :06:14. | |
drugs like this. I consulted a doctor and was taking a huge risk by | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
taking the pills. I was heading to Cambridge university to try and find | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
out how and if Modafanil actually worked. They'd agreed to also test | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
me to see if it had any effect on my cognitive abilities. Tell me exactly | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
how it works do we know how it works? We know a lot about its | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
actions in the brain and that it affects a lot of different nerve | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
transmitter, but what we don't know is that which one of the effects has | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
to do with the improvements we see in people's cognitions, we know it | :06:47. | :06:54. | |
acts on dopamine and adrenaline, but another transmitter, Glutomade. | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
Professor Barbara's been studying Modafanil for years but says we | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
still don't really know how it works as a cognitive enhancer, but she's | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
certain it does work. Do they actually make you more intelligent? | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
Depends what you mean. They certainly might improve your ability | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
to problem-solve and plan. If you can problem-solve better, are you | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
getting smarter? If we are talking about IQ, working memory is very | :07:20. | :07:25. | |
related to IQ. We know that we can improve working memory through the | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
use of drugs like Modafanil. Professor Barbara says the main | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
issue is we don't know the long-term effects of Modafanil and she wants | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
the Government to carry out studies so see if there are any. Should | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
there be no major issues, she sees a potential use for the drug | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
worldwide. I was taken into a room after taking the drug to do a test. | :07:48. | :07:52. | |
I'm going to do one test without taking the drug and then one with | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
it. And then comparing the performance on each task. | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
OK over lunch I took my first ever hit of Modafanil. And I don't really | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
feel that much different. It's been about an hour now or an | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
hour-and-a-half and I feel pretty much the same, although I do feel | :08:15. | :08:17. | |
slightly more awake but I have just walked in the cold for a bit so | :08:18. | :08:21. | |
maybe that's why. I'll keep you posted. | :08:22. | :08:30. | |
This is basically Mario Kart. Your score on the attention task you | :08:31. | :08:40. | |
performed better than 99% of the population, whereas when you weren't | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
on Modafanil you scored better than 85% of people. 95%, does that make | :08:44. | :08:51. | |
me a genius? Yes. Better than 95% of people my age? Yes, your age. That | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
is unbelievable. And gender, yes, 80-85 before. So it's gone up by | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
10%. The tests must be taken with a pinch of salt. There are other | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
factors that could have contributed to my results and it's a very | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
specific scenario so I still needed to see how it worked in real life. | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
If you are based in the UK, there's only one place you can order | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
Modafanil and that's through secretive websites on the Internet. | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
This causes quite a few issues. Besides the fact that you have to | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
enter your credit card details into a website that has virtually no | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
info, you also have no idea of knowing whether what you are getting | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
is legitimate. It's not always safe to buy them | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
online. You never know what you are going to buy and what product is | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
going to land on your door mat. I bought mine from a website in | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
India that came with tracking information. I called up the | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
pharmaceutical company that made it and they said as long as it had | :09:56. | :09:59. | |
their branding it should be theirs but they said they don't sell items | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
online. There are those that sell it illegally in the UK. Recently, we | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
seized over 20,000 units containing 13 different types of medicine in | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
one operation. That was valued at over ?200,000 and one of the drugs | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
that was seized hadn't even been tested on humans yet. The MHRA are | :10:21. | :10:31. | |
trying to crack down on this. In 2015 during one operation, we seized | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
over 46,000 of these types of drugs in a period of four weeks. One | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
retailer who didn't want to be identified told me they get around | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
the restrictions by labelling the products as "not for human | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
consumption" and selling in bags, as opposed to pills. As it currently | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
stands, this makes life difficult for the MHRA. It seems like you can | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
get around the laws by making it seem as if it's for laboratory use, | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
not packaging them in pills and saying it's not for human | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
consumption. They are clearly being sold to people for human | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
consumption, so is that an issue in your eyes? Yes, it is. Weapon we | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
come across these issues, we have other parts of the agency who make | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
determinations on that -- when we come across these issues. As well as | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
the large number of websites, there is a huge number of forums dedicated | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
to speaking about so-called smart drugs. Nootropics has 64,000 | :11:36. | :11:42. | |
members. One issue that keeps popping up is the UK's psychoactive | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
substance Bill that looks set to pass in 2016 that will put a blanket | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
ban on any drug with psychoactive ever February and potentially a host | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
of so-called smart drugs. So, after taking another Modafanil pill, I | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
travel to Nottingham to meet the co-owner of a company that sells on | :12:01. | :12:10. | |
Nootropics so see what he thinks about the Bill. This is my treatment | :12:11. | :12:18. | |
and therapy room where I do rehab, Cairo practition and nutritional | :12:19. | :12:19. | |
counselling and things like that. Is your head going to explode now | :12:20. | :12:36. | |
because you have take an lot? No, that is the beauty of genuine | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
Nootropics, because they are not prescription strength, it's very | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
hard to overdose on them. Am I worried, no, because I don't tend to | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
worry about things. I mean, what is the purpose of worrying? We are | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
reform lating neuro-still, the product, to be more in line with the | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
guidelines if and when the Bill comes into line. The Bill is short | :13:01. | :13:06. | |
sighted and disturbing a little bit. But, you know, the powers-that-be | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
will operate in how they see fit, not necessarily to the best | :13:11. | :13:12. | |
advantage of the man in the street, but for their own agenda. It makes | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
things harder. After the interview, I contacted the Home Office. They | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
told me that, as many smart drugs can be used for medicines, they had | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
likely be exempt and will continue to be regulated by the MHRA. | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
But, as the Bill is so broad, some experts have told me that many | :13:29. | :13:31. | |
so-called smart drugs could be implicated. | :13:32. | :13:42. | |
OK, so earlier, I was quite unsure as to whether the Modafanil was | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
really doing anything and whether it had any effect on me whatsoever but | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
now I'm quite sure it probably is because I've been lying in bed for | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
about an hour and I just can't get to sleep because my brain is just | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
completely switched on. Modafanil is something often | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
associated with students. But, there are some in another less reported | :14:08. | :14:10. | |
community that are taking them as well. | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
The world of text start-ups. -- tech start-ups. Marcus is an app | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
developer and started taking Modafanil to get ahead of the game. | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
It wasn't like I was taking a drug and it was giving me a high and | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
making me happier, but the feeling that I was getting a lot done was | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
very exciting. Tell me what your frame of mind was like? Frame of | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
mind is very, very important. My frame of mind was, I need to create | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
the next start-up and make it work. I just experience add big failure | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
and wanted to make a success instead. | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
So you started taking Modafanil at the same time you stopped working at | :14:51. | :14:54. | |
the other place? Yes, and that is an interesting point. When my start-up | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
kind of bombed, this is interesting to think about, when it bombed, I | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
was feeling very, very low and I'm a very poss-minded person so I | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
instantly looked for something to improve my life and circumstances -- | :15:11. | :15:14. | |
positive-minded. My theory is, I took the drug for the first time, I | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
may have subconsciously exaggerated to myself how much it was helping me | :15:21. | :15:23. | |
because I knew it would help me feel better. You are taking this to get | :15:24. | :15:29. | |
better and be more productive and more successful in essence? Yes. Has | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
it shown any sign of doing that yet? In terms of my life in general, no, | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
I suddenly haven't gone from being a lose tore Mr Successful. | :15:39. | :15:48. | |
OK. It is my final day taking these so-called smart drugs. Not only do I | :15:49. | :15:57. | |
look and feel horribly rough because I have hardly slept. I also have to | :15:58. | :16:02. | |
spend a full day editing this film, which needs to be done in two days, | :16:03. | :16:07. | |
which is not a lot of time. Editing is something I find notoriously | :16:08. | :16:11. | |
difficult to stay focused on. I figure if there was one day the | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
pills would help it was this. But it did not quite help as I expected. | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
The only real effect was a lack of hunger. Still no tangible | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
improvement in my concentration levels. It has definitely taken away | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
my appetite. It is 2pm and I still not have eaten. As well as this I | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
got headaches and a strange lump on my arm. I have got like a weird spot | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
on my arm. This happened on the first day on the back of my leg. As | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
the day progressed they seemed to kick in. At the end of it all I met | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
Jason who said he never had side effects like mine. You took the same | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
pills from the same company. You seemed to have an enjoyable | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
experience? Yes. I got a weird spot on my arm and my leg. Have you heard | :17:00. | :17:08. | |
anything like that. --? No. I was told there was a chemical in my | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
blood released by your liver when you're body is try to take something | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
into its system. I body did not like what I was taking. I was | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
disappointed others did not have -- I did not have the experience others | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
others had had. It means I will never be tempted to try them again. | :17:27. | :17:28. | |
And if you want to share that film just go to our programme | :17:29. | :17:31. | |
We'll talk some more about smart drugs with people who use them | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
Still to come: What led a bouncy castle salesman to become | :17:37. | :17:44. | |
We'll have all the details on the Londoner in the latest | :17:45. | :17:52. | |
IS video and will be speaking to one man who knew him. | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
Seeing again for the first time in 16 years, the moment a bionic eye | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
A Muslim convert from east London is the main focus of investigations | :18:01. | :18:21. | |
into the identity of a masked man with a British accent featured | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
in the latest video released by the Islamic State group. | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
Siddhartha Dhar travelled to Syria with his family in 2014, | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
a day after being released on bail, while being investigated | :18:34. | :18:35. | |
The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, is expected to unveil details | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
of a reshuffle of his front bench team today. | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
Late-night talks with key members of the shadow cabinet ended | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
Two of those whose positions are rumoured to be in doubt | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
are the shadow foreign secretary, Hilary Benn, and the shadow defence | :18:50. | :18:51. | |
President Obama has announced a series of gun control measures. | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
They'll be introduced by executive order, meaning they'll by-pass | :18:59. | :19:00. | |
Congress which has so far resisted calls to make it harder | :19:01. | :19:03. | |
The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, has invited junior doctors to carry | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
on talking about pay and conditions, rather | :19:10. | :19:11. | |
The doctors' union the BMA has called its members out on strike | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
Mr Hunt said very good progress had been made in the talks that had been | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
The BMA has said several disagreements remain. | :19:22. | :19:28. | |
Police have reissued their appeal for information about the missing | :19:29. | :19:34. | |
former East Enders actors -- actress Sian Blake as homicide investigators | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
take over the investigation. She went missing from Kent with her two | :19:42. | :19:47. | |
children. Police are also concerned for the welfare of her partner and | :19:48. | :19:52. | |
the children's father, Arthur Simpson Kent. Robert Stig would, who | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
managed the Bee Gees at the height of their fame, has died. He also | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
worked with Eric Clapton and produced the film, Saturday night | :20:02. | :20:05. | |
Fever, as well as Tommy. Now the sport. | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
Good morning. We have got some live sport. The second test in Cape Town. | :20:10. | :20:17. | |
The fourth day has resumed. England desperately need a South African | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
wicket. England scored lots of runs in their first innings. South Africa | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
are eating that. No wickets down after about an hour this morning. | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
Staying with cricket, you may have seen these comments made by Chris | :20:30. | :20:37. | |
Gayle in the -- in the Big Bash Twenty20 Ligue one Australia. It was | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
during a live TV interview yesterday. He started flirting with | :20:41. | :20:46. | |
a female reporter. Astor ad for a drink, told her not to blush. He has | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
been fined about ?5,000 for inappropriate behaviour. He has | :20:53. | :20:55. | |
apologised today saying it was just a joke. A lot of debate has come out | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
of this. Many seeing this as a joke, many not. Chris Rogers, the | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
Australian batsman who spend a lot of time with Chris Gayle, is | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
disappointed in his behaviour and attitude and would try to distance | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
himself from him socially. More on that. Real Madrid has shown a | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
remarkable lack of patients with Rafa Benitez. Only seven months in | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
charge and three matches last, he was sacked yesterday. He has been | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
replaced by Zinedine Zidane. More details at ten. | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
What do we know about the British man who's appeared in the latest | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
propaganda video from so-called Islamic State? | :21:41. | :21:41. | |
An official source has told the BBC that Siddhartha Dhar is the main | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
focus of the attention of security and intelligence officers, | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
as they study the video, in which five men are murdered. | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
Dhar is a 32-year-old former bouncy castle salesman from East London. | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
He was arrested for allegedly encouraging terrorism and released | :21:53. | :21:54. | |
on bail and ordered to hand in his passport. | :21:55. | :22:01. | |
But he disappeared in September 2014, and later published pictures | :22:02. | :22:03. | |
Our reporter, Catrin Nye, spoke to him 18 months ago. | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
At the time he was calling himself Saif Ui Islam. | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
Why would you want to live under a caliphate? When I look to Britain | :22:17. | :22:27. | |
and I can speak as a former non-Muslims, issues like smoking, | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
free mixing, music and the society largely based on unity, pornography, | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
it is not something any practical Muslims enjoy living under. Whether | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
I Cisse or any other state implements the caliphate, -- Isis, | :22:44. | :22:51. | |
any Muslim would flock to that state. What happens to people who do | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
not want to live under your version of Islam? What happens to those | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
people who do not want to obey the law of Britain? | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
The documentary maker, Mojtaba Ali, also interviewed Siddhartha Dhar | :23:05. | :23:06. | |
I interviewed him a month before he went to Syria. He said he supports | :23:07. | :23:17. | |
Isis and what they do. He would like to go live there if he had the | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
opportunity. Just propagating the Isis narrative. He seemed to enjoy | :23:23. | :23:30. | |
the media attention. He did at a few interviews the month before he fled. | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
I believe it was because he wanted to raise his profile before he left. | :23:35. | :23:41. | |
What kind of specific things was he saying to you? He was saying that | :23:42. | :23:48. | |
Isis do not persecute young Muslims. They are fighting people who are | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
attacking them. This is a Western propaganda. It is quite bizarre. | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
Isis are releasing these videos, glorifying in them, and he was | :23:59. | :24:06. | |
saying some absurd things like, this is the West making us look bad. We | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
are trying to implement Islam based on his understanding of it. When you | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
pushed him to condemn the killings that Isis have been carrying out, | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
what did he say? He refused to condemn anything to do with ISAs. He | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
was saying, we are just being attacked. Everybody is being unfair | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
with us. We are going to spread Isis throughout the global world. He was | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
very calm. He had the zeal. That is why I would not be surprised if it | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
was him who took up the position to become the star of Isis. The new | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
Jihadi John, so-called. When you saw the video did you think this is the | :24:51. | :24:56. | |
man I interviewed? I would be surprised if it was not him. Hearing | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
the voice, my cameraman called me and said, that is him. You look at | :25:02. | :25:06. | |
the shape of his eyes. It seems to be him. He is one of those | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
charismatic recruiters that Isis used to spread this message. And he | :25:12. | :25:16. | |
likes the media attention. Some of them do not. I would not be | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
surprised if it was him. As a result of those interviews he did back in | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
2014, including the one with you, he was arrested by police and released | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
on bail, which is when he escaped to Syria. That is the issue. Him to be | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
arrested on terror charges, released on bail and then fleeing the country | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
is either a blunder by the security services or because they wanted him | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
out of the country. We do not know. It would be a concern if they were | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
not aware that this person was going to join Isis. This is what | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
Siddhartha Dhar said in that documentary. | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
There are a lot of lies being pushed out by the Western media. One of the | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
biggest rises that they are persecuting non-Muslims. The forced | :26:02. | :26:10. | |
conversions, for example? The forced conversions I do not agree with. You | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
have to convince people to become Muslims. If they want to become | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
Muslim woman they become Muslims through their free will. There are a | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
lot of lies being pushed out by the Western media? | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
How likely is it that Batman is the marksman in the video recently | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
released by Isis? Frank Gardner is here. What is the thinking? I would | :26:31. | :26:38. | |
be surprised if it was not but it is not 100%. We will not get an | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
official comment, if ever, from the security services because it is an | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
ongoing investigation. I would be amazed if, by now, they have not | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
established to it was. They can use voice technology, they can enlarge | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
what you can see of his eyes. There are ways with computers you can | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
measure the distance and match it up. It is not difficult. It is | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
pretty easy. What would they do with that information? It is up to the | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
Government. That information goes to the national Security Council and | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
senior members of it, probably including the Prime Minister, will | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
decide if this man is a threat to UK Cisse -- security. Arrese just a | :27:22. | :27:28. | |
narcissistic coward? If they decide he is a threat and is encouraging | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
other people to carry out attacks here, it is likely the attorney | :27:34. | :27:36. | |
general would be asked to sign off on putting him on a kill list and he | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
would meet the same fate as Mohammed Emwazi and generate Husein and | :27:43. | :27:51. | |
others. Because they cannot go in there and arrest them. Is it your | :27:52. | :27:56. | |
view that this latest video is in response to Britain taking part in | :27:57. | :28:03. | |
the air strikes on IS in Syria? There are indications. He says, how | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
dare you, Kamran, send in your planes with your little country? -- | :28:08. | :28:18. | |
Cameroon. British planes have sent in few planes to Syria. They are | :28:19. | :28:25. | |
hurting from those strikes, definitely. Isis lost 14% of its | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
territory last year. They have lost Ron Maddy and must overhaul of the | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
northern Syrian border Turkey. -- Ramadi. The pipeline of British | :28:37. | :28:43. | |
jihadists going out to join Islamic State has really narrowed. It peaked | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
in 2013. There are still several hundred out of their, probably about | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
400 to 500 out of there, including about 50 children. Obviously there | :28:55. | :29:00. | |
is a little boy in the latest video. Photographs of him appear to be all | :29:01. | :29:05. | |
over the Internet and British newspapers. We have taken a decision | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
not to name him because he is a little boy. What do we know about | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
him now? A man saying he is his grandfather, he has been named in | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
the press. He recognises him. He says it is his grandson. He knows | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
him really well. When asked by the reporter if he had been in touch | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
with him, he said he does not like it out there at all. This is a child | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
of about four or five who has been dressed in fake military fatigues | :29:35. | :29:39. | |
with a bandanna on it with the Islamic State logo, saying, let's | :29:40. | :29:47. | |
kill the unbelievers. It is not the first time that they have used | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
children in videos. There was a far more sickening video a few weeks ago | :29:53. | :29:59. | |
which sold -- showed a chilled and's game, the ruins of a castle in | :30:00. | :30:05. | |
Syria, where a man handed a gun 25 or six children and they went | :30:06. | :30:09. | |
running through the ruins and found a bound prisoner with a shot in the | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
head. These are children. They want them to grow up calling them lion | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
cubs. This is the next generation. It is a generational thing. We are | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
bigger than you. Governments, Grant go, we are here forever. We're going | :30:25. | :30:30. | |
to talk in a moment about what IS might do next in terms of 2016. | :30:31. | :30:37. | |
Let's have a quick look back at what they did in 2015. | :30:38. | :33:18. | |
So what will the self-styled Islamic State's priorities be over | :33:19. | :33:21. | |
Let's talk to Dr Erin Saltman from the Institute | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
for Strategic Dialogue, an organisation that looks | :33:27. | :33:29. | |
And Dr Lina Khatib, a senior research associate at the think tank | :33:30. | :33:34. | |
Welcome to both of you. What do you expect from IS this year? They have | :33:35. | :33:45. | |
been strong reaching out to lots of different parts of the world through | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
in-house centralised videos that they have been propagating, also | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
through decentralised messenger so allowing Jihad is and the women | :33:55. | :33:57. | |
within their constituencies to actually openly be on social media | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
so that they can reach different people in a range of different | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
languages. This will be more important as well as we see perhaps | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
when they are losing territory on the ground the idea of branding | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
themselves so that actually people can attach themselves to that brand | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
from abroad. So when Paris attacks were carried out, things like that, | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
when we see different areas of the world where people can just take on | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
that brand as a way of empowering themselves, that's been crucial to | :34:24. | :34:29. | |
the strategy. So even though they might be losing Tikrit, Ramadi and | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
Mosul... They haven't lost Mosul, sorry. Apologies. Ramadi in Syria | :34:34. | :34:44. | |
and Sinjar. Those kind of freelance Jihadis can use the umbrella name, | :34:45. | :34:48. | |
if you like of IS wherever they are? Yes, and we saw this happen with | :34:49. | :34:53. | |
Al-Qaeda post-9/11, the fact that they can create afilliate structures | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
to take on the idea of empowerment. It gives an illusion of strength | :34:58. | :35:01. | |
that you don't actually have on the ground or mill tarristically if you | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
are being damaged by on the Ground Forces or by air strikes, this is a | :35:05. | :35:11. | |
way of maintaining strength, a-symmetrical warfare approaches | :35:12. | :35:14. | |
whereby distributing this idea online you are seeming to maintain | :35:15. | :35:17. | |
strength and continuing recruitment pathways. | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
OK, so in terms of other territories where they might expand, what would | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
you expect? I think the group has reached the limit of its | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
geographical expajs pangs. Already, it's lost territory in Iraq, as we | :35:32. | :35:35. | |
have seen. It's recently lost Ramadi. The next big battle will be | :35:36. | :35:41. | |
Mosul in the coming year. This is the stronghold for IS in Iraq. But I | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
think they'll continue to hold territory in Syria. That is because | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
the Syrian regime seems to be indirectly and sometimes directly | :35:53. | :35:55. | |
facilitating this through sometimes withdrawing Syrian troops from | :35:56. | :35:58. | |
certain areas that the regime does not consider to be essential. | :35:59. | :36:05. | |
Handing these areas to IS in a way because the regime thinks it's | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
better to have IS control of these territories, rather than the Syrian | :36:10. | :36:15. | |
opposition. Also, I expect that IS will continue to hold its territory | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
in Syria because the Syrian conflict is ongoing and, as long as there is | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
no resolution to the conflict, IS is benefitting. Also the fact that | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
relations have broken down between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the more | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
disagreement there is between countries like that, the more it | :36:31. | :36:35. | |
helps IS? Absolutely. IS is really threatened by a political process in | :36:36. | :36:38. | |
Syria that will get rid of the regime and bring in a transitional | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
government. Then you could unify the Syrian Army, have a state recognised | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
by the international community like you do in Iraq now, and then you can | :36:46. | :36:51. | |
have real international intervention to root out IS. As long as the | :36:52. | :36:56. | |
conflict continues, IS is benefitting, and you cannot have a | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
resolution to the conflict without the external stakeholders being on | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
board. Iran and Saudi Arabia are major stakeholders, so when they | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
disagree, the path towards a resolution in Syria is blocked. | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
Geographically, we are seeing fringe movements that are recruiting | :37:15. | :37:17. | |
Westerners in through Libya, so actually on top of male foreign | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
terrorist fighters which we'd see as militancy, we have actually see | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
Western females that have, because border routes going from the West | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
into Syria and Iraq, have been maintain add little bit more, we | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
have seen Western females go straight to Libya and start | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
maintaining camps there. So we will see some different fringe movements | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
as territory within other areas are closed down. Just backing up what Dr | :37:41. | :37:48. | |
Lina was saying there, talking to Whitehall, it seems the entire | :37:49. | :37:50. | |
British Government long-term strategy for dealing with IS is | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
predicated on finding an acceptable future government in Damascus which | :37:57. | :38:00. | |
at the moment doesn't seem like happen. With the Saudi Arabia spat, | :38:01. | :38:05. | |
it's going to be harder to find. The idea is that six, 12 months or 18 | :38:06. | :38:10. | |
months down the line, there'll be some future Government, a coalition | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
Government that's acceptable to all parties in Syria and that government | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
will invite in the international community, including British and | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
American forces to deploy on the ground with government permission an | :38:24. | :38:26. | |
encouragement and join together with this mythical force of 70,000 rebels | :38:27. | :38:32. | |
to defeat Isis. That's the idea but I think there's an awful lot of thes | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
in there and so far, there is no sign of President Assad going. The | :38:37. | :38:40. | |
Iranians certainly don't want him to go, the Russians don't particularly | :38:41. | :38:44. | |
want him to go, and in a way, it's understandable because, if Assad | :38:45. | :38:47. | |
left in a hurry, what would happen? You would have a complete collapse | :38:48. | :38:51. | |
of the state and the next thing you would have the black flag of Isis | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
flying above the Palace in Damascus. What about more attacks in Europe? I | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
think it's likely. When I was doing field work on IS, I found out from | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
IS sources that the new strategy for them, and this was as far back as | :39:09. | :39:12. | |
last summer, was to try to distract the West into focussing on domestic | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
security so that they would pay less attention to external security and | :39:18. | :39:21. | |
to politics, so the more countries are distracted by security, the less | :39:22. | :39:24. | |
attention they pay to politics and these attacks in Europe are meant to | :39:25. | :39:28. | |
do exactly that which means unfortunately, highly likely that | :39:29. | :39:32. | |
we'll see attacks similar to Paris. Do you agree? The calls to attacks | :39:33. | :39:38. | |
are vigilante, a lot are not even dictated from centralised | :39:39. | :39:41. | |
headquarters of IS. We are seeing a call to arms, we have seen this | :39:42. | :39:45. | |
previously with other Jihadist organisations, and this sort of | :39:46. | :39:50. | |
a-symmetrical warfare tactic as was mentioned. It makes the general | :39:51. | :39:54. | |
public question whether or not we should be going in and helping in | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
the region, so it's a way of forcing the general public to question their | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
own government's motives. That's exactly what they are trying to do. | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
Thank you both very much and thank you Frank. | :40:07. | :40:09. | |
Coming up, we speak to the twin brother of David Rathband - | :40:10. | :40:11. | |
the police officer shot and blinded by gunman Raoul Moat - | :40:12. | :40:14. | |
who's taking police to court on his brother's behalf | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, is expected to unveil details | :40:19. | :40:35. | |
of a reshuffle of his front bench team today. | :40:36. | :40:38. | |
Late-night talks with key members of the shadow cabinet ended | :40:39. | :40:40. | |
Two of those whose positions are rumoured to be in doubt | :40:41. | :40:45. | |
are the shadow foreign secretary, Hilary Benn, and the shadow defence | :40:46. | :40:47. | |
We can't have a men-only party. Women in this country expect to see | :40:48. | :40:57. | |
men and women working together on equal terms. That's what the Labour | :40:58. | :41:02. | |
Party believes in, and we can't have an all-male leadership again and | :41:03. | :41:04. | |
therefore we'll have to change the rules. You would like to see the | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
rules changed? To stop there being an all-male leadership. In terms of | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
your advice or hope for the women in the Shadow Cabinet, we shouldn't | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
overlook the fact that we have 50/50 in the Shadow Cabinet, what do you | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
want to see them do? The truth is that women's rights are never going | :41:23. | :41:25. | |
to be taken forward by men in the party, whether they are on the left, | :41:26. | :41:28. | |
the central or on the right. The truth is, it's women in the party, | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
Labour women that will take forward women's rights and, even though we | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
haven't got any women in the top leadership, that makes it even more | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
important for them to put themselves forward. What I think is more | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
worrying about the culture in the Labour Party is very left-wing | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
feminists they are pulling up -- feminists, they are putting up with | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
a lot more than any other man would say because Jeremy Corbyn is saying | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
it. Would those who were given a job by Tony Blair have been saying this. | :42:09. | :42:13. | |
It's sort of like some in the Labour Party are accepting low-level | :42:14. | :42:16. | |
nonviolent misogyny because it's Jeremy doing it. | :42:17. | :42:26. | |
Liam Byrne was Chief Secretary to the Treasury in the last | :42:27. | :42:30. | |
LabourGovernment and left a note saying "there's no money left" | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
famously, I'm sure you are sick of hearing that, but first of all, does | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
Jeremy Corbyn have a problem with women? He needs to get a better | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
balance. Labour is blessed with some outstanding female Labour | :42:45. | :42:46. | |
politicians and if you are the leader of the Labour Party, you are | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
a bit like a football manager and it's your job to put the best team | :42:50. | :42:52. | |
on the pitch and right now I think most in the party want to see more | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
women playing in stronger positions. So he does have a problem with | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
women? He's got work to do to make sure Labour's fielding the best | :43:01. | :43:03. | |
possible team because there's only one test for Jeremy Corbyn this year | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
and that is about winning elections. We have some big elections in May. | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
It's crucial to win back City Hall and Scotland and we need to hold on | :43:13. | :43:16. | |
to Wales and make progress in Town Halls across the country. The Labour | :43:17. | :43:18. | |
Party wants to see that Jeremy Corbyn is a kind of an Arsene | :43:19. | :43:24. | |
Wenger-like manager and not a Jose Mourinho-like manager, because in | :43:25. | :43:26. | |
our business, it's all about winning elections, it's the results that | :43:27. | :43:30. | |
matter at the end of the day. Arsenal haven't won anything for | :43:31. | :43:33. | |
ages actually, but OK, I'm taking the point. | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
The time it's taking to sort this reshuffle out, the naval-gazing and | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
in-fighting, as it's described, is really damaging to Labour? | :43:45. | :43:48. | |
Maddening. It must be the longest reshuffle in history. And Labour | :43:49. | :43:52. | |
supporters think, shouldn't you be fighting the Government? Totally. At | :43:53. | :43:57. | |
the moment the Conservative Government is getting away scott | :43:58. | :44:01. | |
free on all sorts of things. We have a junior doctors strike looming. | :44:02. | :44:03. | |
Over in the Middle East, David Cameron's got a war to win, actually | :44:04. | :44:09. | |
there's many that don't think his fight against extremism going | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
particularly well. He's got the European referendum where no-one is | :44:13. | :44:15. | |
terribly clear about what deal he's actually going to get out of the | :44:16. | :44:18. | |
European colleagues and it's not clear what the pathway for the | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
economy looks like this year either. Interest rates looming on the | :44:23. | :44:25. | |
horizon, the economy slowing down in China, so there are big challenges | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
the Government's got to get sorted. It's not clear they are going about | :44:29. | :44:32. | |
it in the right way and our job should be to expose where they are | :44:33. | :44:36. | |
going wrong and propose better alternatives, not, as you say, | :44:37. | :44:42. | |
indulge in the longest reshuffle/naval-gazing exercise in | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
political history. Some of the issues you mentioned, immigration, | :44:47. | :44:48. | |
health, the economy, most important to voters. Does Labour have a policy | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
that you could tell our audience right now about? We have a policy | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
review, there are reviews under way, but the process by which that policy | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
is being reviewed isn't terrifically clear. That is why we come back to | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
the point that rather than spend months and months and months | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
figuring out what is the beforeconfiguration of the team, get | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
the reshuffle done and get back to the business of, you know, coming up | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
with better alternatives to the Government and get the campaign in | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
gear to win the elections in May. Is it accurate that Hilary Benn will | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
stay? I've no idea but I personally hope so. Hilary has shown he's one | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
of the great figures in the House of Commons. He's one of the great | :45:33. | :45:35. | |
figures in the Labour Party and one of the best players and he deserves | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
to be in the key position he's in right now. | :45:40. | :45:42. | |
Thank you very much. Still to come, we'll have all the | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
latest news and in sport, Chris Gayle is fined ?5,000 for asking a | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
reporter out on a date during a live TV interview. Now the weather with | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
Carol. Happy New Year. There is a lot going on with the | :45:59. | :46:08. | |
weather. In eastern Europe it has been exceptionally cold. Look at all | :46:09. | :46:13. | |
of that snow in Croatia. You can see all of this ice. The ocean is often | :46:14. | :46:23. | |
referred to as a heat source. It shows how cold it is. A picture from | :46:24. | :46:34. | |
Poland. This is the water. Look how it has frozen. You can see Turkey. | :46:35. | :46:40. | |
Some deep snow. It is not unusual to have really cold conditions in | :46:41. | :46:44. | |
eastern Europe. These are exceptional. We have got cold air | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
dominating in the north. A bigger area of high pressure in eastern | :46:50. | :46:53. | |
Europe. Another in north-western parts of the Atlantic. You can see | :46:54. | :47:00. | |
the blue. The darkest blue in the East. Our temperatures have gone | :47:01. | :47:05. | |
down. You have probably put the heating back on again. Our | :47:06. | :47:11. | |
temperatures are nothing like we have seen. The average overnight | :47:12. | :47:17. | |
temperature in Moscow was minus nine. These conditions are similar | :47:18. | :47:25. | |
to what he would experience in the Antarctic. If you were out in -26 | :47:26. | :47:28. | |
you would be bonkers without appropriate protection. You could | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
lose a finger in this kind of heat without the right preparations. The | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
big high pressure across eastern Europe has changed the orientation | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
of the jet stream, which is posted further south. All of the warm | :47:45. | :47:49. | |
tropical moist air that we had last week and we had in December as well, | :47:50. | :47:52. | |
has now gone across the Mediterranean. We will see further | :47:53. | :48:07. | |
snow. Lots going on. But here? We have not got those kind of | :48:08. | :48:12. | |
temperatures, thank goodness. Here we have issues with flooding. For | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
most of us today it will be quiet. What we are looking at today is a | :48:18. | :48:22. | |
day of showers, some of which will be heavy and sundry. Some | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
brightness. Some sunshine. The Met Office still has in force and amber | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
be prepared warning for heavy rain. The areas affected Perth and | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
Kinross, Stirling and Angus. The rain falling on body stature rated | :48:39. | :48:45. | |
ground. -- already falling on saturated ground. Snow in the | :48:46. | :48:54. | |
Grampians. Heavy rain across north-east England in particular. | :48:55. | :49:01. | |
For the rest of us, showers. Some of those will merge and some will be | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
thundery. In the afternoon rain in eastern Scotland. Brighter in the | :49:06. | :49:11. | |
West. Some showers. North-east England seeing the rain. The rain | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
carrying into parts of Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and East Anglia. South | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
of that, through the Midlands and the Isle of Wight, some showers. | :49:21. | :49:26. | |
Some sunny spells. Across south-west England we have a mixture of bright | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
spells, sunshine and showers, as we have across Wales. If you are stuck | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
under the showers, it will be quite chilly. For Northern Ireland, a | :49:38. | :49:42. | |
mixture of bright spells, sunshine and showers. Low pressure dominates | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
the weather. Everything rotates around it. We continue with the | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
onshore wind today and tonight. It will feel cold. The showers in the | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
West tends to be more about the coast. Central southern and | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
south-eastern England will have dense fog tonight. If you're | :50:02. | :50:06. | |
travelling tomorrow morning, worth checking the forecast. You might | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
find some disruption to travel. You can go the BBC travel pages or your | :50:12. | :50:20. | |
local radio station. You can see her through the morning the fog will be | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
slow to lift. Eventually some of it will become low cloud. A dry day. | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
Some showers. We lose the heavy rain from Scotland. Still snow from the | :50:31. | :50:38. | |
Grampians. You can see out towards the West we have got our next band | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
of wet and windy weather. That is good to continue to push steadily | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
northwards and eastwards. It will deposit more snow at lower levels in | :50:48. | :50:49. | |
the far north of Scotland. I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
good morning. Coming up, a 32-year-old father | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
of four who used to sell bouncy castles in London, is believed to be | :50:59. | :51:01. | |
the British man who appears in the latest propaganda video | :51:02. | :51:03. | |
by the terror group Islamic State. Also today, can certain kinds | :51:04. | :51:07. | |
of drugs really make you smarter, I would probably compared to a | :51:08. | :51:21. | |
camera that is in focus and a camera that is out of focus. Right now | :51:22. | :51:24. | |
everything feels very sharp. And we speak to the twin | :51:25. | :51:26. | |
brother of David Rathband - the police officer shot and blinded | :51:27. | :51:28. | |
by gunman Raoul Moat - who's taking police to court | :51:29. | :51:31. | |
on his brother's behalf A Muslim convert from east London | :51:32. | :51:33. | |
is the main suspect as security agencies work to confirm | :51:34. | :51:47. | |
the identity of a masked extremist in a video released | :51:48. | :51:50. | |
by the Islamic State terror group. Siddhartha Dhar travelled to Syria | :51:51. | :51:53. | |
with his family in 2014. The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, | :51:54. | :51:57. | |
is expected to finalise the reshuffle to his front bench | :51:58. | :52:00. | |
by the time the shadow cabinet It is thought the changes will not | :52:01. | :52:14. | |
be as substantial as some had predicted. Hilary Benn may stay on | :52:15. | :52:20. | |
as shadow foreign secretary. President Obama's laying | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
out his plan to push through tougher gun control without | :52:25. | :52:26. | |
going through Congress. He'll introduce measures | :52:27. | :52:28. | |
on background checks and firearms sales by what's called | :52:29. | :52:30. | |
an executive order. Although we have to be very clear | :52:31. | :52:42. | |
that this will not sell -- sold every violent crime in this country, | :52:43. | :52:46. | |
it will not prevent every mass shooting, it will not keep every gun | :52:47. | :52:52. | |
out of the hands of a criminal, it will potentially save lives in this | :52:53. | :52:59. | |
country. And spare families the pain and the extraordinary loss they have | :53:00. | :53:00. | |
suffered. The Health Secretary, Jeremy Hunt, | :53:01. | :53:01. | |
has invited junior doctors to carry on talking about pay | :53:02. | :53:04. | |
and conditions instead The doctors' union, the BMA, | :53:05. | :53:05. | |
has called industrial action Mr Hunt said very good progress | :53:06. | :53:10. | |
had been made in talks, but the BMA says | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
disagreements remain. Police have reissued their appeal | :53:15. | :53:17. | |
for information about missing former EastEnders actress Sian Blake | :53:18. | :53:21. | |
as homicide detectives take Police are also concerned | :53:22. | :53:23. | |
for the welfare of her partner and the children's father, | :53:24. | :53:32. | |
Arthur Simpson-Kent. Let's talk to Richard Lister. What | :53:33. | :53:44. | |
do we know? Sian Blake became famous for playing Frankie in East Enders | :53:45. | :53:50. | |
in the late 1990s. More than 50 episodes. She has not been seen | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
since the 13th of December, when she went on a family visit to East | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
London with her two sons, Zachary, eighth, and Amos, four. Police are | :54:03. | :54:05. | |
also looking for her partner, Arthur Simpson Kent. They have not seen him | :54:06. | :54:11. | |
since three days after that disappearance, on December 16, when | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
they went to the family. They are looking for the whole family. They | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
have no information about where they have been. On Sunday they found the | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
car belonging to Ms Blake in East London. They do not know how it got | :54:25. | :54:29. | |
there. They are appealing for information. They have also | :54:30. | :54:32. | |
confirmed that they have now signed the homicide major command, murder | :54:33. | :54:38. | |
detectives, to lead this investigation, which clearly | :54:39. | :54:41. | |
underlines the depth of their concern. They say they are very | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
concerned about the family. They are keeping an open mind. They are | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
particularly concerned about Ms Blake, who they say suffers from a | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
life-threatening disease, it is believed to be motor neuron disease. | :54:55. | :54:58. | |
They do not know if she is receiving treatment or medication. They have | :54:59. | :55:03. | |
particular concerns about her. Clearly three weeks on, they are | :55:04. | :55:06. | |
very concerned about the whole family and are appealing for | :55:07. | :55:07. | |
information. Thank you, Richard. Back to Jeremy | :55:08. | :55:15. | |
Corbyn's reshuffle. Michael Duguid MP, who was the shadow culture | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
secretary, has just tweeted, just been sacked by Jeremy Corbyn. I | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
wished him a happily that -- happy New Year. -- Michael Doer. -- | :55:25. | :55:33. | |
Michael Duque. Let's talk to John Pienaar. You have got some breaking | :55:34. | :55:39. | |
news about the EU referendum? That is right. The other big story at | :55:40. | :55:45. | |
Westminster away from the fight club that is the Labour Party is | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
Britain's renegotiation of its membership terms in Europe. David | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
Cameron will confirm later that government ministers, Cabinet | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
ministers and other ministers, will be free to campaign both for and | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
against continued British membership of the European Union when a deal is | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
reached. That goes along with the assurances he has been giving to | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
senior colleagues for a while. He is now about to go public with all of | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
that. It is rarely about forestalling potential trouble | :56:15. | :56:17. | |
ahead. There is trouble ahead in Europe whatever happens for the | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
Conservative Party. This was a rift waiting to happen. They could've | :56:22. | :56:27. | |
been resignations if ministers were not given the freedom to campaign. | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
David Cameron is trying to forestall that at least. There are bigger | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
apples on the table as well. If this referendum goes the way of Britain | :56:37. | :56:41. | |
leaving the European Union, they are talking about whether David Cameron | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
himself can survive as Prime Minister. So no collective | :56:45. | :56:51. | |
responsibility? Only until the deal is reached. Until then, ministers | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
are required to stick together in the normal way by the normal rules. | :56:55. | :57:00. | |
When the deal is reached, there are such diverging points of view in the | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
Cabinet, it would have been futile, frankly, for the Prime Minister to | :57:07. | :57:10. | |
keep that line or a raise it in the any away. He has given them the | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
freedom they were looking for. There was no other choice. John, can I ask | :57:14. | :57:24. | |
you why you think the shadow culture secretary has been sacked by Jeremy | :57:25. | :57:30. | |
Corbyn? He knew he was for the chop. He has known that for some time. We | :57:31. | :57:33. | |
are getting ready for the blow to fall. He has made no secret of his | :57:34. | :57:40. | |
differences with Jeremy Corbyn. We have had him attacking some of those | :57:41. | :57:46. | |
who support Jeremy Corbyn. While we expect the likes of higher up the | :57:47. | :57:51. | |
tree, of Hilary Benn to carry on in that post of Shadow Foreign | :57:52. | :57:59. | |
Secretary, and Maria Eagle, Michael Dugher is the lower hanging fruit | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
and he has been duly plug. I have been looking at his tweet. Nice to | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
know the spirit of fraternity is not entirely dead in the Labour Party. | :58:10. | :58:17. | |
Thank you, John. Now the sport. Hello again. The second test has | :58:18. | :58:22. | |
resumed in Cape Town. England trying not to waste Ben Stokes's heroics at | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
the weekend. But South Africa are eating into their first innings | :58:28. | :58:30. | |
total. England took just one wicket all day yesterday. South African | :58:31. | :58:37. | |
captain Hashim Amla resumed on 157. He is closing in on a double | :58:38. | :58:41. | |
century. Faf Du Plessis is going along very well. Approaching a | :58:42. | :58:49. | |
century. No wickets so far. South Africa 414-3. | :58:50. | :58:54. | |
West Indies batsman Chris Gayle has been fined around ?5,000 for making | :58:55. | :58:58. | |
inappropriate comments to a female cricket presenter in a live TV | :58:59. | :59:01. | |
interview during a match in Australia. He is playing for | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
Melbourne Renegades in the big bass. He asked Mel MacLachlan for a date. | :59:07. | :59:12. | |
He said to see her eyes for the first time was nice. He told her not | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
to blush. Returning from the match in Hobart, he spoke to the media and | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
said it was a simple joke but he has apologised. | :59:23. | :59:27. | |
It wasn't meant to be disrespectful or offensive to Mel. If she felt | :59:28. | :59:35. | |
that way, I'm really sorry for that. There was not any harm meant in that | :59:36. | :59:40. | |
particular way like that. It was a simple joke. The game was going on. | :59:41. | :59:46. | |
Entertainment, things get out of proportion. There was no harm done. | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
I will leave it at that. I am sorry for that. | :59:53. | :59:56. | |
We have to move on. I was going about my business and doing my job. | :59:57. | :00:00. | |
Definitely a good thing that people are talking. We want equality. I | :00:01. | :00:05. | |
have always felt in my career and nothing but respect. He did issue an | :00:06. | :00:11. | |
apology and I accept that. You do not expect to get that kind of | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
answer. It is a little disappointing. Rafa | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
Benitez is looking for work again only seven months after landing his | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
dream job. This work -- is Real Madrid side only lost three times | :00:24. | :00:31. | |
but Benitez has been sacked and replaced by the reserve team coach, | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
Zinedine Zidane. He was one of the original star players. He must try | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
to get the best out of the current crop of stars. | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
I will be back at half past ten. A British Hindu man from East London | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
who converted to Islam, is the chief suspect | :00:51. | :00:53. | |
in the investigation to identify a masked man with an English accent | :00:54. | :00:55. | |
who appears in the latest video 32-year-old Siddhartha Dhar | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
travelled to Syria with his wife and four children in 2014, | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
a day after being released on bail for terrorism offences, | :01:04. | :01:06. | |
while being investigated by Scotland What have you been told? His sister | :01:07. | :01:37. | |
paints a picture of a man being influenced And he gets radicalised | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
by a group after his father died. He becomes a strict pop possibility of | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
what then becomes Islamic state. He, as we have been hearing, had been a | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
guest on the BBC, on other networks, talking about how much he thought | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
the Islamic state was something that he admired. | :01:56. | :02:08. | |
2014, he is arrested, escapes, finds his way to Paris, then over to the | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
Islamic state where he spends about a year as this propaganda person | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
putting up pictures of himself and children, talking about how the | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
Islamic state was this cosmopolitan heaven. I've got to tell you, | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
Victoria, he's been regarded as a little bit of a joke, a loud mouth, | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
very naive, but very keen to be in the Spotlight. We had a guest saying | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
the same thing a few minutes ago. His sister said she was so shocked | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
that she saw this, if this is indeed him because she said she hadn't | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
heard from him for about a year. We have been talking over the past six | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
months or so and she said she feared he had died. She said she was | :02:54. | :03:01. | |
shocked when she saw this video. Obviously I have mixed emotions at | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
the moment. I think initially my first feeling in regards to the | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
latest video which was I believe released yesterday was shock and | :03:13. | :03:24. | |
horror. Just because of the audio and yes, I would probably say shock | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
and horror would be the first feeling. I think the thing she | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
really wanted to make clear was because this man had a family. Her | :03:33. | :03:40. | |
point was that she has nieces and nephews that are there. The big | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
difference between this guy and Mohammed Emwazi was that, although | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
he had children, his were here. She spoke to me about this, she was | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
worried and said should there be a drone attack, that her young nieces | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
and nephews could be hurt in such an attacking. They never made the | :03:58. | :04:06. | |
choice to go out there. It's important for the government and my | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
brother and other people to look at the lives they are affecting. I | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
think we should give them an option too because it's not fair on them | :04:14. | :04:20. | |
either. So when you think about the possible repercussions and the fact | :04:21. | :04:23. | |
that he has a family that could be affected, how does that make you | :04:24. | :04:31. | |
feel? A mixture of feelings, sad, powerless, disheartened. I wish | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
there was something in place to perhaps, I don't know, enable the | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
children to have a better life. If he was here now, what would you say? | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
What are you doing and do you even care to know how I feel about this | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
and, you know, God, you're supposed to be my older brother here and I've | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
got so much love and respect for you but what are you doing? What would | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
your message be for the Government as they prepare possibly a reaction | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
to what they have seen? I would like for them to consider sort of the | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
families that the children who're also involved, I would like for them | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
to consider that most - I can't speak for everyone - but people like | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
my brother are British still, not that that should have any sort of | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
prominence into who should be killed or not, but they're still British | :05:26. | :05:32. | |
nationals. I think it would be very sort of wrong of the Government to | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
issue further air strikes on this. I think if it is possible for | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
alternatives to be considered, I would like for them to be considered | :05:41. | :05:45. | |
and if there's anything that I or anyone else can do to help prevent | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
further atrocities, we need to be well informed. I also think that | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
families that are left behind sort of, it's really heartbreaking to | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
watch this as it is to accept. I just can't imagine him wanting to do | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
this. He's the most amicable, friendly, light-hearted person that | :06:05. | :06:06. | |
I'll remember and I'll always remember that being my brother. You | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
have given me a lot of how you are thinking, but you have not told me | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
how you're feeling? I feel helpless. I don't know what I can do and I | :06:17. | :06:26. | |
feel devastated and powerless. That sums up how I feel. There was a | :06:27. | :06:34. | |
sense that she's sad and in denial too about whether this could be her | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
brother which, we should say, we still don't know 100%, we have had a | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
suggestion that it's the government's main suspect, but we | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
haven't had confirmation. Breaking news to bring you: This about HSBC | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
customers. Millions of customers having problems with online banking | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
for the second day running. The online service failed after HSBC | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
said it was back up and running. Customers are being directed, and | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
you will know this if you are a customer, being directed to the app | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
for smartphones but this is a lot slower than normal. They don't know | :07:11. | :07:14. | |
yet what the fault is but they are working on it. This bit of breaking | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
news about the weather and the rainfall in December, this perhaps | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
won't surprise you. December 2015 was the wettest month in the UK | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
since records began back in 1910, those are provisional figures from | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
the Met Office. The wettest month in Britain since records began back in | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
1910. Let us nip back to Westminster. And our Political | :07:37. | :07:47. | |
Editor Norman Smith is there. Mr Dugher sacked. What do you know | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
about this? This is the first sacking by Jeremy Corbyn. At long | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
last, there is movement. Michael Dugher was the Shadow Culture | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
Secretary, he is out. He's been one of the most critical of the Shadow | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
Cabinet about Mr Corbyn both in public and in private. In public | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
just a couple of days ago he was warning about the whole idea of a | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
cull of Mr Corbyn's critics saying the Shadow Cabinet would be reduced | :08:13. | :08:19. | |
to a polit bureau. He came up with the original description of the | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
so-called revenge reshuffle. Mr Corbyn told him a short time ago, I | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
don't like what you have been writing about me and Mr Dugher's | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
response was, I felt I needed to stick up for colleagues. He wished | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
him a happy New Year, but that is it, he is gone. The interesting | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
thing is, will anyone else go? At the moment, all the signs are this | :08:40. | :08:44. | |
could yet be the damp squib reshuffle because the indications | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
are Hilary Benn, the Shadow Foreign Secretary will keep his job, he's | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
not going to be booted out even though he clashed with Mr Corbyn | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
over Syria. Likewise, Maria eagle who disagrees with him over Trident | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
will remain in the Shadow Cabinet but no longer in the defence port | :09:00. | :09:07. | |
polio. And even prominent Blairites like Lord Falconer look set to keep | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
their job. So after all this hype about the big shake-up, the radical | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
restructuring, the indications are actually it could be a pretty | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
modest, pretty restrained, pretty minor reshuffle. | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
Thank you very much. Norman will be back should there be | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
more promotions or demotions, if we can put it like that! | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
The family of David Rathband - the police officer shot and blinded | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
by gunman Raoul Moat - are suing Northumbria Police | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
They claim the force were negligent in not warning officers that Moat | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
had threatened to kill a police officer just minutes before | :09:43. | :09:44. | |
he attacked David Rathband, who was sitting in his patrol car | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
Here's a reminder of the events of early July 2010. | :09:48. | :09:57. | |
One night in the summer of 2010, two people were shot in the quiet town | :09:58. | :10:08. | |
of Wrothbury. S Samantha was injured and her partner was killed. Good | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
evening, armed police in Northumbria are searching for a man suspected of | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
double shooting... Police sooned looked for a middle aged man | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
released from Durham Prison. Moat was stock Bart's ex-boyfriend and | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
held a grudge against the police. Innocent people have been hurt. This | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
must stop now. After the first shooting, Moat went on the run. | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
Locals were told to stay indoors. Nothing prepares you for see a | :10:39. | :10:44. | |
picture postcard town like this one patrolled by heavily armed police | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
marksmen. The team have promised to post police officers outside every | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
school. In the small hours of July 4th, Moat phoned the police to tell | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
them he was on the lookout for officers. Minutes after that call, | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
he approached a parked police car and shot into the front windscreen. | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
The man sitting inside, David Wrathband was taken to hospital, in | :11:07. | :11:18. | |
a critical condition -- Rathband. Moat called the police again. | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
After seven days on the run, Moat was cornered in a field to the north | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
of the village lying down on the grass, he held a gun against his own | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
head. After six hours of negotiations, he pulled the trigger. | :11:35. | :11:38. | |
He was later pronounced dead at Newcastle General Hospital. | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
The police officer who was shot, David Rathband was blinded in both | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
eyes. Unable to cope, he took his own life in 2012. His brother and | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
sister are now continuing the legal case he started and taking | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
Northumbria Police to the High Court saying they were negligent for not | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
quickly warning officers of the threat to their own lives. | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
David Rathband told me in an interview in October 2010, | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
three months after the atttack, about its devastating impact on him. | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
The hardest thing is knowing that it's only because I'm determined | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
that I go out the house, you know, to actually pick up a white stick | :12:22. | :12:29. | |
and walk out of a house with no vision at all... It's extremely | :12:30. | :12:42. | |
hard. But erm... But I do it. And I do it with 100% | :12:43. | :12:52. | |
commitment because I want to achieve some level of normality and I want | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
to get back to being what I was before I was shot. Me out walking | :12:57. | :13:05. | |
with a cane, to do that is just the level of concentration that's | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
required, my thought process is why I'm doing it in relation to things | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
happening to me while I'm out and about and I don't foresee a time | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
where I'll be able to do that on my own which is a big loss to me. | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
When you are out and about, do you feel pretty vulnerable? You know, | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
when I joined the police, I used to struggle with people's fear of crime | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
and I think a lot of that was because I used to try to do my best | :13:32. | :13:35. | |
to do something to remove the issue, whether it was arresting people or | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
what not, but it's gone full circle for me now. Every time that I've | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
been out with a mobility trainer or my wife, I feel vulnerable. It's not | :13:45. | :13:46. | |
a very nice place to be. We can speak exclusively now | :13:47. | :13:49. | |
to David Rathband's twin brother, Darren Rathband, in his first TV | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
interview, on why he and his sister are still pursuing the legal action | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
that David started before he died Darren, thank you very much for | :13:57. | :14:06. | |
talking to us. Why is it important to you that you continue this legal | :14:07. | :14:15. | |
action? Hello and thanks for giving us the opportunity to speak to you. | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
I suppose the main reason is David started it. David was quite adamant | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
that he was let down by his Police Service and having been told by his | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
Chief Constable and obviously I was present that that happened, that | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
they could have done more and that he should sue them, he's commenced | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
the legal proceedings, sought advice and the advice was that there was a | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
claim there or certainly the legal team thought that there was a claim | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
there and that he had been let down and put into a position of danger | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
that could have been avoided. Effectively, what you are saying, is | :14:55. | :15:01. | |
that the gunman had actually phoned 999 to say he was hunting for police | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
officers and that the Northumbria force was negligent in not passing | :15:06. | :15:11. | |
that warning on to all those working who were on patrol that night, like | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
your brother? I think that's obviously one of the issues that the | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
legal team have identified and obviously that led to the ultimate | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
incident where David was shot and left fighting for his life at the | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
side of the road. The strange thing is, David was single crewed that | :15:29. | :15:36. | |
evening which ultimately saved his partner but was against their own | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
policy. Northumbria police aren't the only Police Service in the UK | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
that have a single crew policy. They breached their own policy, as well | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
as other Police Services do, across the UK. | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
But had he been alongside a colleague in that car, he might | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
still have been snot? Yes, look, I'm fully aware that it may have been | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
somebody else but the issue is, they may not have been there and I think | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
if we go back to the warning, if that warning would have been given | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
out by their control room that was in chaos at the time, then David may | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
not have been shot, probably wouldn't have been shot and no other | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
officers would have been put at risk. And it's strange actually | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
Victoria because, prior to David being shot, I think it was stated | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
that Moat and that vehicle he was driving in was actually following | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
another patrol car so it could have been more than one person that was | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
shot that was serving for Northumbria Police. | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
What do you want from the force? I want Northumbria police to | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
acknowledge that they let David down. It is too late for David but | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
it is not too late for other officers. It is not unique to | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
Northumbria police. It is across the whole country. If you are injured on | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
duty, and having served as a police officer in the UK, you have to fight | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
for everything. David had to fight to get counselling after being | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
blasted in the face by a maniac. He had to fight for psychological | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
treatment. He was told he could only have minimum sessions. That is the | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
sort of thing that officers across the country have to go through on a | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
day-to-day basis. They give everything and they get nothing back | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
in return when they are injured. I know that your brother was hoping | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
for a financial pay-out to help pay for his medical care and to support | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
his children. Is that something you want as well? The first thing David | :17:51. | :17:58. | |
was hoping for was that his left eye was repairable. He was hoping more | :17:59. | :18:05. | |
than anything, he was not interested in the money, he was interested in | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
trying to get some sort of normality, like what was said in the | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
piece you played before. David just wanted some sort of vision. Losing | :18:14. | :18:21. | |
his eyesight, he knew that he had to fight to be supported after the | :18:22. | :18:31. | |
police service or going forward as a blind 44-year-old, or 42-year-old | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
male. Money would not have given him what he wanted back. His family now, | :18:39. | :18:47. | |
I am left to fight my brother's battle for his children. They | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
benefit from any litigation. They are the sole beneficiaries of | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
David's estate. Nobody gets any money apart from the kids. I am | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
determined to see it through the end and hopefully the judgment will come | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
down in our favour and vindicate what David said from the day he was | :19:09. | :19:16. | |
shot. Thank you for talking to us. The twin brother of PC David | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
Rathband. That case begins next week. Darren in Adelaide in | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
Australia. We asked Northumbria Police | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
for a statement to respond They told us: "It would be | :19:24. | :19:25. | |
inappropriate for us to make any We'll take a look at Barack Obama's | :19:26. | :19:37. | |
plans to widen background checks on buyers of firearms, | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
in a series of measures And later, the moment a blind woman | :19:41. | :19:42. | |
sees for the first time in 16 years Government ministers will be free to | :19:43. | :20:03. | |
campaign for either side in the EU referendum. That will only come | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
after the Prime Minister has reached a deal on reforming the UK's | :20:08. | :20:12. | |
relationship with the European Union. | :20:13. | :20:14. | |
A referendum has been promised next year. There is trouble ahead on | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
Europe whatever happens for the Conservative Party. This was a rift | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
waiting to happen. There could have been cabinet and other resignations | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
if ministers had not been given this freedom to campaign. David Cameron | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
is trying to forestall this at least. There are bigger apples on | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
the table as well. If this referendum goes the way of Britain | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
leaving the European Union, they are talking about whether David Cameron | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
can survive as leader. Michael Dugher, until this morning | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
Shadow culture secretary, has been sacked as part of the Labour | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
reshuffle. Apparently he was told the Labour Party leader did not like | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
the things he was writing. Liam Byrne told us Jeremy Corbyn should | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
appoint more women. Labour is blessed with some | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
outstanding female politicians. If you are the leader of the Labour | :21:07. | :21:10. | |
Party, you are a bit like a football manager. It is your job to put the | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
best team on the pitch. Right now most of us want to see more women | :21:15. | :21:16. | |
playing in stronger positions. A Muslim convert from east London | :21:17. | :21:21. | |
is the main suspect as security agencies work to confirm | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
the identity of a masked extremist in a video released | :21:25. | :21:26. | |
by the Islamic State terror group. Siddhartha Dhar travelled to Syria | :21:27. | :21:28. | |
with his family in 2014. Millions of HSBC customers are | :21:29. | :21:38. | |
having problems with online banking for a second day. The bank has not | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
worked out what the fault is but insists it is not an attack from | :21:44. | :21:47. | |
outside. The Met Office says December was the | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
wettest month in Britain since records began in 1910. Swathes of | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
the country have seen floods. The average temperature is the highest | :21:57. | :22:06. | |
at 7.9 Celsius since 1984. Now the sport. Still no wickets for | :22:07. | :22:16. | |
England in the second test in Cape Town. Any chance of victory seems to | :22:17. | :22:25. | |
be slipping away, with South Africa on 420 8003. Captain Hashim Amla has | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
brought up his double century before lunch. | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
West Indies batsman Chris Gayle has been fined around ?5,000 for making | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
inappropriate comments to a female cricket presenter in a live TV | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
interview during a match in Australia. | :22:39. | :22:39. | |
He is playing for Melbourne Renegades in the Big Bash. | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
Naomi Broady has claimed the best win of her career. She beat second | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
seed and former world number one and Ivanovic in straight sets at the | :22:51. | :22:54. | |
Auckland classic. And Zinedine Zidane says he feels more emotional | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
now than when he joined the club as a player. He has taken over from | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
Rafa Benitez as Real Madrid manager. The Spaniard was sacked after only | :23:05. | :23:05. | |
seven months in charge. It seems so simple - | :23:06. | :23:07. | |
a drug that can make you smarter, improve your memory, | :23:08. | :23:10. | |
your concentration or motivation, and generally help you perform | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
better at work or when preparing Could it be that simple? Susan says | :23:13. | :23:29. | |
they will not enhance your intelligence. Helen says she has had | :23:30. | :23:37. | |
some on prescription. For heard a side were awful. She said whatever | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
came into airhead. She also had insomnia. She finds it really | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
worrying that they can be obtained by some naive people. Leading | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
experts tell us there are no long-term safety studies into the | :23:57. | :23:58. | |
damaged so-called smart drugs may do. | :23:59. | :24:00. | |
The Home Office have told us they don't plan on including them | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
in an upcoming bill banning drugs with "psychoactive effect" | :24:04. | :24:05. | |
Benjamin Zand has been investigating. | :24:06. | :24:14. | |
After a week of waiting my parcel has arrived from the undisclosed | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
location in India to my desk in London. I am slightly nervous for a | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
number of reasons. Mainly because I do not usually take prescription | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
drugs. I held off taking the drugs until the following day. I also | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
consulted a doctor. I was taking a huge risk. I was heading to | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
Cambridge University to try and find out how and if modafinil actually | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
worked. They had agreed to test me to see if it had any effect on my | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
cognitive abilities. Can you tell me how it works? We know about its | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
actions in the brain and we know it affects neurotransmitters but we do | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
not know which one of these effects is to do with the improvements we | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
have seen in people's cognition. We know it acts on dopamine and low | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
adrenaline. We think all of these are important for cognitive | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
functions. The professor has been studying modafinil for years. She | :25:15. | :25:19. | |
says we still do not really know how it works as a cognitive enhancer. | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
But she says it does work. Depends what you mean by, do they make you | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
more smart? They might improve your ability to plan and problem solve. | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
Does that mean you are getting smarter? After the interview I was | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
taken into a room to do the test. The idea is I am going to do a test | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
without taking modafinil and one taking modafinil and comparing the | :25:45. | :25:45. | |
performance. Over lunch I took my first ever hit | :25:46. | :25:56. | |
modafinil. I don't really feel that much different. It has been about an | :25:57. | :26:01. | |
hour and a half. I feel pretty much the same. I do feel slightly more | :26:02. | :26:05. | |
awake. I have just walked in the cold for a while so maybe that is | :26:06. | :26:07. | |
why. I will keep you posted. You performed better than 95% of the | :26:08. | :26:22. | |
population. When you were not on modafinil you scored better than | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
85%. Does that make me a genius? Yes! Three hours flew by in a matter | :26:27. | :26:36. | |
of seconds. And I feel so much more awake, so much more focused and | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
quite amazed. These tests must be taken with a pinch of salt. There | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
are other factors that could have contributed to my results. It is is | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
busy vixen. At this point I needed to see how it worked in real life. | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
It was not going to be plain sailing. | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
To watch the full film, headed to our programme page. Let's talk to | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
Marcus Ball, who has been taking smart drugs for six months, and the | :27:03. | :27:11. | |
professor you saw in the film. Markers, once a month for six months | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
you have been taking modafinil, why? I do not want to take it too often. | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
The long-term studies are almost nonexistent. The first time I tried | :27:21. | :27:27. | |
it the effects for me were so strong and it felt so effective and helped | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
me so much, it kind of made me feel that anything that good cannot be | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
good for you in the long term. What were you like before you took it and | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
when you started taking it what difference did you see? I have | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
always been focused and hard-working. I have always | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
considered myself to be very focused, as I said. When I took the | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
drug for the first time it gave me better perspective. Just to be clear | :27:53. | :27:56. | |
I am not better perspective. Just to be clear | :27:57. | :28:02. | |
for me personally it helped me. I realised how lazy I was previously. | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
I would never have considered myself to be lazy. The way I would describe | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
the sensation is when you are doing work that is quite stressful, you | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
have several different emotions. Self-doubt, the desire to be | :28:16. | :28:21. | |
distracted, procrastination etc. When I first took it I did not feel | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
those sensations. I felt this is my work, I have to get it done. And yes | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
I did. And it was fantastic. It felt fantastic, yes. Board was the | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
quality of the work all right? I hope so. I think so, personally. Is | :28:37. | :28:46. | |
the effect similar to drinking ten cups of Coffey in a day? You do have | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
to take a lot of caffeine as Coffey did get a similar effect. That is | :28:52. | :29:02. | |
usually 100 mg or 200 milligrams. Usually when you take that much | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
caffeine, a lot of people will notice they get tremors or | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
palpitations. The other side effects usually come on with the higher | :29:13. | :29:17. | |
doses of caffeine. That is one reason we did some studies. I love | :29:18. | :29:20. | |
that sleep deprived surgeons to see if it would improve their surgery. | :29:21. | :29:27. | |
You do not want any tremor in a surgeon. There might be better | :29:28. | :29:32. | |
alerting agents which do not have those side-effects. What was the | :29:33. | :29:38. | |
outcome of that? We found the surgeons under modafinil were less | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
impulsive and better at problem solving. It did help them. They did | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
not experience side-effects. The issue is long-term? The issue is | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
long-term because we have no long-term safety studies and we need | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
those. Any chance of that happening soon? Is quite difficult because the | :29:57. | :30:03. | |
FDA and Fee MA are usually looking at treatments for disorders or | :30:04. | :30:10. | |
diseases. They do not look at the regulation of drugs for healthy | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
people. Now that we have this expanding lifestyle use of these | :30:14. | :30:18. | |
cognitive enhancing smart drugs it is important these studies are done. | :30:19. | :30:25. | |
Any negative side-effects? None at all. I went off it. Very thirsty. | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
Having to drink a lot of water. That is basically it. Dehydration, is | :30:31. | :30:38. | |
that something you have come across? With any of these drugs, especially | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
if you're working a lot, you have to remember to take fluids. One thing | :30:43. | :30:48. | |
Marcus has brought out it is not just the cognitive enhancement, it | :30:49. | :30:53. | |
is the task related motivation, which we have seen. For these tasks | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
were you have to get down and do them, the drugs help people. They | :30:58. | :30:59. | |
find the task more pleasurable. You said you were a focussed | :31:00. | :31:13. | |
individual? It magnifies it. If I had boring tasks to accomplish, like | :31:14. | :31:19. | |
e-mails over and over again, when I was on Modafanil, it was so easy, I | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
could breeze through it. Have you read them back the next day? Yes, | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
everything seemed fine, I haven't had any awful news since then. You | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
said you are not going to take it long-term because there are no | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
long-term safety issues and you have decided that anything that is that | :31:35. | :31:37. | |
good for you in your view maybe cannot be good for you? Maybe, | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
there's not that much evidence. When will you stop? I don't know. The | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
biggest issue is sourcing it. Buying it on the Internet, how can you | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
trust that, where does it come from, who is making it? I think the | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
Government should team up with a pharmaceutical company and create | :31:55. | :31:57. | |
some kind of safe supply and tie that in with research so they can | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
sup my it to people in the UK and test the effects. You are nodding in | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
agreement. I agree. I've written in my publications that the Government | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
should get together with the pharmaceutical industry because | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
people are buying the drugs over the Internet, which is an unsafe way to | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
get prescription only medication. To restrict harms harms it will be | :32:20. | :32:27. | |
better. We heard in the film that Benjamin produced, he had a 10% | :32:28. | :32:32. | |
improvement. The Academy of Medical Sciences showed in their report that | :32:33. | :32:36. | |
even a small 10% improvement in a memory score could lead to a higher | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
A-level grade or degree class, so there may be times when we want to | :32:41. | :32:44. | |
use the drugs. The military is using them. The Canadians use them for | :32:45. | :32:51. | |
astronauts, so they are in use and in America you can get Modafanil due | :32:52. | :33:01. | |
to shift work problems because they found it reduces accidents in the | :33:02. | :33:02. | |
work place. President Barack Obama is expected | :33:03. | :33:04. | |
to announce plans for tougher restrictions on gun ownership | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
in the United States All gun sellers will have to be | :33:08. | :33:10. | |
registered as dealers and must carry Officials say privacy laws will be | :33:11. | :33:16. | |
amended to remove legal barriers on checking the mental health | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
records of potential owners. Mr Obama said the measures | :33:22. | :33:24. | |
have the potential to save lives. Although we have to be very clear | :33:25. | :33:32. | |
that this is not going to solve every violent crime in this country, | :33:33. | :33:37. | |
it's not going to prevent every mass shooting, it's not going to keep the | :33:38. | :33:40. | |
gun out of every hands of a criminal. It will potentially save | :33:41. | :33:48. | |
lives in this country and spare families the pain and the | :33:49. | :33:50. | |
extraordinary loss that they suffer. Let's talk now to Jeff Mason - | :33:51. | :33:51. | |
he's the Reuters White House Thank you very much for joining us. | :33:52. | :34:04. | |
I know it's early there. Tell us what difference it will make to | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
those buying and selling guns, what will the sellers have to do with | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
customers? It will effect more people. The attorney of the United | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
States explained to us that this could effect people who maybe sell | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
one or two guns at a flea market, also people who'd be selling guns | :34:23. | :34:27. | |
over the Internet, at gun shows and in stores. They'll be required to be | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
licensed and that will trigger a requirement that gun buyers go | :34:32. | :34:34. | |
through background checks. It will effect a lot more people and that is | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
the loophole in current US law that the White House was aiming to close | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
with the new regulations. So if you wanted to sell me a gun, you have to | :34:44. | :34:48. | |
get yourself a licence. What kind of background checks do you do on me if | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
I wanted to buy a gun, what would you need to ask me? That's a good | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
question. I don't think it's that the gun dealer himself would have to | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
conduct the background check. There are background checks that would be | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
triggered through the Government, through the FBI, to look into | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
whether or not you are on a list or on some kind of a warning that would | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
suggest that you would not be capable or should not be owning a | :35:14. | :35:16. | |
gun. OK. How is President Obama going to get this through if he's | :35:17. | :35:21. | |
going to by pass congress? Well, that's a good question and that's | :35:22. | :35:26. | |
kind of the point. He's using his executive authority to install this | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
new regulation that. Means he's not creating a law that needs to be | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
passed by congress and that is the rub with Republicans who oppose what | :35:36. | :35:38. | |
he's doing, they say he's going around them instead of going through | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
them. The reason he's doing that is, he tried in 2013 after the school | :35:44. | :35:56. | |
shooting, he tried to pass new measures and failed. He did some | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
executive action and now, a couple of years later, he's making one last | :36:03. | :36:05. | |
attempt to use his executive authority to make this happen. He | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
made a point of saving in The Oval office yesterday that this was | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
consistent with the second amendment of the US Constitution with which | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
guarantees Americans the right to bear arms. But it will almost | :36:17. | :36:20. | |
certainly cause some people to think, hey, this isn't legally sound | :36:21. | :36:23. | |
and could lead to some challenges in court. | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
Thank you very much Jeff Mason. Thank you for waiting up for us. | :36:30. | :36:32. | |
A woman who's gradually been losing her sight for years has been | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
describing the joys of being able to see again after being fitted | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
Forty nine year old Rhian Lewis, from Cardiff, lost all her sight | :36:40. | :36:45. | |
in her right eye and most of the sight in her left eye 16 | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
years ago, but as part of a trial at John Radcliffe hospital in Oxford | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
she was given a retinal implant, which could go on to benefit | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
thousands of people suffering from sight loss. | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
This is Rhian explaining her condition and the moment | :37:00. | :37:01. | |
when the implant is switched on for the first time. | :37:02. | :37:06. | |
It's a bit like if someone is putting a dimmer switch off ever so | :37:07. | :37:12. | |
gradually and it's going lower and lower and lower and the light is | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
going less and less. It's been maybe eight years since I've had any idea | :37:18. | :37:21. | |
what my children look like and I certainly don't know how I've aged. | :37:22. | :37:31. | |
It's a pulse and then a flash. Should I go down further... | :37:32. | :37:46. | |
Six and 12. Flee. -- three. I think three is longer. Oh, it is. Oh, my | :37:47. | :38:07. | |
God. Well done. I got it right. Well done. Honest to God, it felt like | :38:08. | :38:13. | |
Christmas Day. Let's talk to Alexina, one of the | :38:14. | :38:28. | |
nurse leaders of the trial at Oxford's John Radcliffe Hospital. | :38:29. | :38:31. | |
Thank you very much for talking to us, it is amazing isn't it? ! It is. | :38:32. | :38:40. | |
Thank you, Victoria. Yes, this is the second phase of a very exciting | :38:41. | :38:51. | |
programme of trials for us. We on rated on six patients over the last | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
six years -- operated on six patients. We have operated on three | :38:57. | :39:00. | |
more and will have three more lined up. For the second phase of the | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
study, the results so far are very promising. | :39:05. | :39:09. | |
So for short hand, we are calling it a bionic eye, I don't know if that | :39:10. | :39:14. | |
pleases or displeases you, but it's effectively a tiny electronic chip | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
at the back of Rhian's retina. Tell us how it worked? Well, the retina | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
at the back of the eye has cells which pick up the light and transmit | :39:26. | :39:32. | |
images to the brain to be translated. With the retina pig | :39:33. | :39:47. | |
meant, the photo cremes progressively lose their activity | :39:48. | :39:56. | |
and so the retinal implement is replacing those photo receptors. The | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
optic nerve has to be in good working order and we carry out a lot | :40:02. | :40:07. | |
of tests before we select our participants to make sure that | :40:08. | :40:17. | |
that's in good working order. The images are transferred through the | :40:18. | :40:24. | |
chip, through the optic nerve to the visual centre in the brain to | :40:25. | :40:30. | |
translate as images. I understand. So it's replacing the function of | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
the photo receptors. That's right. How tiny is it Very tiny, 3mm x 3mm. | :40:36. | :40:44. | |
OK. In terms of the operation, how long does it take, how complicated | :40:45. | :40:51. | |
is it? The operation is very complex indeed, involving a team of | :40:52. | :40:59. | |
surgeons, opthalmologists and ear, nose and throat surgeons. The | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
operation itself takes approximately eight hours. Sometimes a little | :41:03. | :41:10. | |
less, sometimes a little bit more, depending on anything that presents | :41:11. | :41:14. | |
itself during the surgery process. And after the operation, does it | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
take time for somebody like Rhian to sort of learn to use it, if I can | :41:20. | :41:30. | |
put it like that? Yes. Let's compare it perhaps with relearning a skill. | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
These individuals will have had vision in the early part of their | :41:36. | :41:42. | |
life. We prefer to select individuals who have had vision up | :41:43. | :41:48. | |
to approximately the age of 12 years of age so they have a good visual | :41:49. | :41:58. | |
memory and when we stimulate the retina again and reactivate this | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
process, the patients essentially have to relearn to see so it's quite | :42:04. | :42:10. | |
a long process and it involves quite a lot of training similar to the | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
training that you will have seen Rhian taking part in in the filming. | :42:17. | :42:24. | |
Yes. In terms of other people then who've been losing their sight, is | :42:25. | :42:31. | |
it as simple as saying this chip can be implanted into all sorts of | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
people with partial vision? No. We have to select our patients very | :42:38. | :42:49. | |
carefully. We have to concentrate on patients with retinitis pigmentosa | :42:50. | :42:52. | |
at the moment because they have a fully functioning optic nerve still. | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
We have to do a lot of testing before we select our patients and | :42:56. | :43:06. | |
that's one of the main criteria. So very careful patient selection, | :43:07. | :43:08. | |
especially with the individuals. We have to make sure that | :43:09. | :43:16. | |
psychologically they are able to take part. If you can imagine taking | :43:17. | :43:23. | |
part in such complex surgery, they are committing themselveses to a | :43:24. | :43:31. | |
long programme of a clinical trial. If for any reason we find after the | :43:32. | :43:38. | |
surgery and switching the retinal implant on, it's not fully | :43:39. | :43:42. | |
functioning, that's a big disappointment for somebody so we do | :43:43. | :43:46. | |
have to prepare them very carefully for dis disappointments in case the | :43:47. | :43:53. | |
implant doesn't work. OK, thank you very much. | :43:54. | :43:56. | |
Thank you for your company today, and for all your messages | :43:57. | :43:59. | |
which really do help to inform our conversations. | :44:00. | :44:00. | |
Joanna is presenting the programme tomorrow, | :44:01. | :44:02. |