28/01/2016 Victoria Derbyshire

Hello it's Thursday, it's 9.15, I'm Joanna Gosling in for Victoria,

The UK agrees to take in more child refugees from Syria who've been

The Government wants to identify the most exceptional cases

Those already in Europe won't be included.

A world first; the British woman who doctors say has become the first

person ever to have a pancreas transplant because of a severe

Sue York who has had type-1 diabetes since she was seven would shake

uncontrollably and vomit when injecting herself with insulin

which she had to do twice a day for nearly 50 years.

We'll speak to her exclusively after ten.

After wowing us all, Johanna Konta is out

Her bid to become our first female Grand Slam Finalist since 1977 ends

in a straight sets defeat in the semis.

I did a good job in separating the circumstances of the match and the

gravity of the match from the actual work at hand which was to go out

there and play the best match that I could on that day.

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We'll keep you across the latest breaking and developing stories.

In the last half hour the SNP's Deputy Leader and Economy

spokesperson Stewart Hosie has written to the European Commission

calling for an investigation into the tax deal between HMRC

The Commission had indicated that it would be willing to investigate

Google's tax arrangements in Britain if a complaint was lodged.

Google has defended its ?130 million deal with the UK's tax authorities

and has insisted it complies with the law.

We hope to speak to Stewart Hoise in the next half hour.

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The Government is to allow more child refugees from Syria to come

But it hasn't said how many and those who're already

Instead the Government will work with the UN High Commissioner

for Refugees to identify "exceptional cases" in Syria

There will also be extra money to help the estimated 26,000

migrant children who arrived in Europe last year,

a new ?10 million fund will provide more protection centres

Critics say questions remain about how the Government's plan

will work in practice and how many children

Sources have told the BBC the numbers involved will not

significantly increase the UK's current commitment to take

the authorities are planning to reject the asylum claims

applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015, the highest per capita

processed last year, 55% were accepted.

ago, this programme spoke to Javed, a 14-year-old who fled

on his own to escape being recruited by a militant group.

Javed isn't his real name, but he's one of thousands

of unaccompanied minors who arrive in Europe

Nicola Beckford went to meet him and his foster mum Karen.

Can you chop the onion for me, please.

You can sit on the step and watch if you want...

I got a phone call to see if I wanted to

look after a refugee, a 13-year-old boy.

Which, at the beginning of my fostering journey,

I never thought I would end up looking after a teenage boy.

I've no experience of teenagers, but without hesitation,

I would foster a refugee again, I would foster a teenage boy,

because it's been nothing but positive.

The impact on the family, and the way he

has just fitted in, he's just a lovely, happy boy.

He's brought nothing but happiness, really.

TRANSLATION: I came from France to the UK not like a normal

passenger, sitting on a seat, because I had no

documents to show to the driver and I had no money

Every day we went to the train station looking for a chance,

I was nervous, the things you think, I was worried

about having a 13-year-old boy in the house, and how would I manage

if there was any challenging behaviour.

Knowing that he has grown up in war, how would that affect his behaviour?

So I was very nervous because there's just myself

and my seven-year-old son in the house, so

But I spoke to the previous foster carer,

where he had been for a few weeks, and she assured me of what a lovely

We met him first, he came for tea, and we had a few days together.

So I knew from the minute I met him that he was a perfect fit.

We can speak now to Yvette Cooper MP, chief of Labour's refugee task

force and Lily Kaprani deputy executive director for UNICEF UK.

Also Yasmine from an organisation working with Syrians in Manchester.

Good morning to you all. Yvette, first of all, what do you

think about the Government and what they are saying, is it completely

clear how many child refugees will be able to come to the UK from this

deal? It's not clear at all. It seems to be very confused at the

moment. We have a whole series of questions for the Government. It's

good if they are prepared to do more to help child refugees, particularly

those who are alone in Europe because they are so vulnerable to

gangs, smugglers, prostitution, abuse. But it's not clear at the

moment whether this will actually increase the number of child

refugees Britain helps very much or hardly at all. It's also not clear

whether this will do anything to help those children who're alone in

Greece or Italy where the reception centres around children's homes are

full and people just aren't getting the support they need. The

indications are strongly that it won't be children currently in

Europe who'll be able to come to this country, it will be children in

Syria deemed to be in exceptional circumstances? It's right to help

those who are close to Syria but it's the children who are alone in

Europe now who we should be really worried about because they are so

vulnerable to gangs. I've met 11 or 12-year-olds, a similar age to my

children, who were low with nobody to look after them -- alone with

nobody to look after them in the camps in Calais and need somebody to

look after them and care for them, otherwise they are so much at risk.

So we need to see the Government do its bit to help deal with the child

refugees in Europe. What Save the Children called for is for out of

the 26,000 lone children, child refugees in Europe, if Britain could

help 3,000 of those child refugees, that would be us doing our bit as

part of what I think is a moral responsibility to suffering

children. You said before you personally would be prepared to do

your bit in terms of opening your doors to refugees. Does that remain

the case, would you still be prepared to do that? Yes. I think a

lot of people would be. The Government's said that's not what's

needed at the moment because they need either proper accommodation,

their own accommodation or for children it would be about foster

care and you have to have proper training and support to Foster. That

is important as well. What we found, if you think back to the kinder

transport, where Britain helped 9,000 children who were fleeing from

the Nazis and the Holocaust. Lord Alf Dubbs has put down an amendment

in Parliament for Britain to help child refugees, this time to help

3,000, so that is something our country could do. The Government

says, and this was its previous argument, is that if you help people

who've already come to Europe, you encourage others to make what is a

very dangerous journey. Would you agree with that? I think people are

already coming. The children have already come to Europe. I think we

need stronger borders in order to manage the flow of people right

across Europe so I think that the Schengen arrangement across Europe

needs to end and they need proper border checks across Europe. We also

need stronger action against smuggling gangs, so you need to do

what you can to prevent children travelling. We cannot turn our backs

orange children already in Europe, desperate families who've already

come to Europe because they are fleeing from persecution in Syria or

Afghanistan and, in Italy they said that last year 4,000 of the children

disappeared and most likely that means into the arms of exploitive

smuggling and trafficking gangs. Lily, what is your perspective on

this from UNICEF? Yvette saying she's seen children aged 11 and 12

who need help. What are the ages of the kids coming? It's hard to

imagine young kids fleeing on their own? Well, UNICEF's working inside

Syria in the entire region and a across Europe and we are seeing

children as young as two. They are coming with families though? They

may have left with family but may have become separated. Some of the

journeys are so perilous that parents become separated or killed

on the journeys, so there are so many reasons why tens of thousands

of children end up being unaccompanied from very young

children up to teenagers who're exposed to the risk of being

exploited and trafficked if there's no-one to look after them. You can

understand the need for them to try to get children out when you hear

stories like I've heard in Syria where children as young as eight or

nine are now being recruited into armed groups. Of course you would

want to get the children out of harm's way. But sadly, we also know

that during those perilous journeys out of Syria and sometimes across to

Europe, children are left completely vulnerable without any protection.

The Government right to focus efforts in Syria and neighbouring

countries then to try to prevent the kids and others taking the journey?

Of course that's right and the Prime Minister said in September there was

a moral responsibility to protect vulnerable children from Syria in

the region and that's absolutely the right thing to do. It's good to hear

today that they are also recognising there are children already in Europe

who're equally in need and I don't think one's more important than the

other, all children left unaccompanied and in harm's way need

protection and the UK is right to be doing what it can to help. We do, as

Yvette says, need more detail on how this is going to work in Europe, but

certainly efforts to better identify children who, for example, could be

reunited with their family, are very welcome indeed. There's no reason

why the children shouldn't be brought back together with their

families, that's the safest thing for them and it would protect them

from the harm. Are you putting a figure on how many you think should

be able to come to the UK. The Government said it will be on top of

the 20,000 figure already agreed but we don't know how many and the calls

were for 3,000 from Europe? The Save Save the Children figure is a good

one, so we need to see how many children will this mean helping from

the Government and particularly those cases where we know that there

are family in Britain, then that's obviously going to make a big

difference, then you have family who can care for the children too and

there was a case a few weeks ago tragically of a 15-year-old who was

alone in Europe and whose sister was here in Britain and he died,

suffocated in the back of a lorry simply trying to reach his sister.

It would have been far simply trying to reach his sister.

have a proper, safe, legal route for that family to be reunited and to

save lives. Yasmine, you work for an

organisation helping Syrians here in the UK. What is your perspective on

what is being said now to help children come to this country? Ah

well, two points really. First of all, we have a responsibility to

help the refugees and the children in Europe. I agree with lily, both

are in need of protection. Secondly, we need to ask the critical question

of what are we doing to make sure refugees are protected in their own

homes. As Syrians, we'd like to see countries welcoming refugees and

also working together in a concerted manner to help in the conflict in

Syria so that people don't need to flee their homes. Syrians, whether

they are men, women, children, elderly, they are not fleeing

because they want to, they are fleeing because they're subject to

barrel bombs from the Assad regime because they are fleeing the risk of

torture because they are fleeing, being recruited by militant groups.

So what we really need to focus on is ending this root cause of the

conflict because we don't want refugees to have to flee their home

countries. Once we do that, I mean, if people are protected in their own

homes, that in itself can alleviate the refugee crisis.

Yvette, someone's texted to ask what are the ramifications of taking in

refugee children, are their parents going to be allowed to follow them?

Should they? We need to find out where the parents are in the first

place. For some of the children, the parents may have been killed, for

some, the parents may be still stuck in Syria and unable to leave. Some

may be in Britain or in Germany or Sweden already and they need... But

if there are parent who is could follow them should they be allowed

to? The most important thing is to reunite them with their parents

wherever wherever they are, but bear in mind Britain is only help ago

small proportion of the refugees who are not just in Europe as well

widely. We should be able to do more simply than the 4,000 a year that we

are helping at the moment. How much of an open-ended commitment

is it, with children coming, who should be allowed to follow in terms

of numbers? There might be some where there are

children in one part of Europe, one relative in Britain, others in

Germany. You want a system where you can reunite that family. That should

include being able to reunite the family in Britain. Britain is doing

so much less than other countries to support desperate refugees.

We should be prepared to provide Santry for families, but the

priority is for the children. Personally, I think you should start

with children with family in Britain already, they are the ones able to

care for them, but we should do something for those who have no

family to care for them at all. There was a huge drive to help

migrants last year, when this story was hitting the headlines with what

was going on with people undertaking those journeys, losing their lives.

Germany put no limits. The debate has changed because of events. How'd

you see what Jeremy did then. And do you think the Government was right

to hold a stronger line? -- what journey they did then.

It is the ability to manage the numbers of people arriving within

the country, with no internal borders. You need internal borders

control is to manage people travelling, and offer to provide

Santry as well. If you have a sense of the disorder, that causes

anxiety. You need proper checks to find out who other refugees who need

Santry, who has a safe home to go to? Germany has had trouble doing

that. There is an alternative approach,

different to Germany, but different from what Britain has been doing,

resisting helping. It is possible for us to do our bit in a way that

is managed, with proper checks, and retaining border controls.

Once beverages are in a country, it is not easy to get rid of them.

Sweden says 50% of migrants who put in applications have had them turned

down. -- once refugees. The whole point is to have proper

assessments in place to find out do people have a safe home to return

to, do they need to abide by the normal immigration rules which need

to be enforced? If they don't have a safe home, particularly, that means

people from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, with terrible conflict, if

they have no safe home, we have a tradition of giving sanctuary to

those who are fleeing persecution. We often muddled up immigration and

asylum, they should be separate. We have strong immigration rules but

must do our bit for those who are refugees and fleeing persecution.

Let us know your thoughts about that.

Thanks for joining us today; still to come.

We speak to the first person to have a pancreas transplant but who has a

phobia of needles. First, it's the main

news this morning. The Government has confirmed it

will allow unaccompanied child refugees from Syria to come

to Britain in exceptional But it hasn't said how

many will be accepted, and it

won't take in those who have The Swedish government says up

to 80,000 people who sought asylum in the country may have

their claims rejected. Over 160,000 migrants

applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015, the highest

per capita number in Europe. The SNP have called

for an investigation into the ?130 million tax deal between

HMRC and Google UK. The European Competition

Commissioner says she is willing to investigate Google's

tax arrangements. A British woman has become the first

person in the world to have a pancreas transplant

because of a severe needle phobia. Sue York, who has had type 1

diabetes since she was seven, would shake uncontrollably and vomit

when injecting herself with insulin. SSE is the second of the big six

suppliers to announce price Last week E.on said it

would cut gas prices by 5.1% Three dead sperm whales,

which became stranded on the Lincolnshire coast,

have been removed from the beach. It took a team of workers

at Skegness five hours They've been taken to landfill

sites around the country. Let's catch up with all the sport

now, and join Katherine Downes, Such a shame about Johanna contour.

It is. But what a run it has been for British tenets. Sadly, that has

come to an end for Johanna contour, few people may have heard about her

before this week but she is a household name after her performance

in Melbourne. Beaten overnight by Angelique Kerber. But she will takes

much confidence from that performance.

And she breaks into the world top 30 players. Do we have a new British

star in the women's game? We certainly

do in doubles, Jamie Murray is through to his third consecutive

Grand Slam final, he lost in the final of Wimbledon and the US open,

could it be third time lucky? Fingers crossed. His brother Andy

Murray plays his semifinal tomorrow morning at 8am. A match we can

finally watch because everything else takes place while we are

asleep. 8am, BBC five live sports extra for

full commentary. And Manchester city are through to

the final of the League Cup. More of that at 10am.

The Office For National Statistics has released figures showing growth

in the UK economy over the year. There's calls from the SNP

for an investigation into the tax deal between HMRC and Google UK,

despite the web firm defending its ?130 million deal

with the tax authorities Later, the European Commission

will announce measures to stop tax avoidance

by multi-national companies. Earlier, the European Competition

Commissioner told Radio 4's Today Programme that so-called sweet-heart

deals, in which companies agree an amount of tax to pay to HMRC,

were unfair and possibly illegal. I think we should be in a union

where everyone has a fair chance If you are a small,

innovative company, well, the bigger ones shouldn't close

the market and disable your Do you fear this deal between Google

and the UK tax authorities is precisely that, a sort

of sweetheart deal? Well, that's way too early to say,

because I do not know the details But if you are asked

to investigate, would you? Well, if we find that there

is something to be concerned about, if someone writes to us and says,

this is not as it should be, The Deputy Leader of the SNP,

Stewart Hosie, has written to the European Commission,

calling for an investigation Thank you for joining us.

What do you want to see happen? I think an investigation should look

into this. When the settlement between Google and HMRC was

announced, the Treasury said this is a great deal. Ten Downing St said

something rather different. The public are left with an

impression that certain large companies can effectively negotiate

what it is they may or may not choose to pay. But the average

person or business in the street is given the tax demand and heaven help

them if they do not pay on time. Let us have the European competition

Commissioner look at this, respecting taxpayer confidentiality,

and confirm that the tax paid was in fact the tax due, or what ever else

she may come across. Google says it complies with tax

law, HMRC has investigated the six years. Google says it is being

unfairly targeted in a public backlash, what do you say?

I saw the statement Google issued, I am pleased they have done it. I hope

it is true they paid the tax which is due. Nevertheless, this was a

negotiated deal covering a very long period of time. A facility you or I

or any local business would not have with the revenue.

So there needs to be, not just a level playing field, there has got

to be absolute clarity in the public mind that everyone is being treated

equally. So, the only way we can do this

because we had to respect their internal pussy, is to have the

European Commissioner look at this very clearly. If it is above board,

brilliant. If she finds as she did with Fiat in Luxembourg, or

Starbucks in the Netherlands, that the tax authorities say they should

be getting more money, let us have her say that if that is the case.

From the Google statement, it says Government makes tax law, and Google

complies with the law. Should the tax laws be the focus of scrutiny?

No, because Google are right in that sense. Politicians make the law, in

this case HMRC enforce it. Businesses or individuals pay the

tax due. Her point is the public are seeing large companies negotiating

years Erik Lesser worth of tax and coming up with a deal. We can't do

that. -- years worth of tax. The focus

should not necessarily be on tax law but ensuring to the public that

everyone is treated fairly, and some people can't get away with cutting

what are known as sweetheart deals. Would you describe this deal is a

sweetheart deal? If it is investigated and the tax

paid is the tax due, I will be delighted. If it is not what it

appears, then perhaps I might. Sir Martin Sorrell, big business

person here, says it is a difficult balance for the Government to be

open for business and raising revenues to cover deficits.

Do you agree? It is. This is an ongoing challenge, since the moment

governments had deficits and tax was collected. Getting that balance

right will continue to be hard. We have to make sure that we allow

proper tax competition. Nothing wrong with that so long as it is

sustainable. But making sure when the tax rates are set, the

announcers put in place, businesses and individuals actually pay what is

due. Stewart Hosie, thank you very much.

So, it's all over for British hopeful Johanna Konta

After a remarkable run, her bid to become Britain's first

female Grand Slam finalist since 1977 ended in a straight sets

defeat to Angelique Kerber: 7-5, 6-2.

This is the moment the British number one's dream was shattered.

After the match, Johanna Konta gave this reaction.

I think I did a good job in separating the circumstances of the

match, and the gravity of the match, from the actual work at hand which

was to go out there and played the best match that I could today. So,

no, I went out there with a very clear head. And really gave it all

and try to do my best for every single point. And, yes, I really

enjoyed the experience. But Britain will be represented

in at least one final in Melbourne. Jamie Murray and his Brazilian

partner Bruno Soares will compete for the men's doubles title

after a straight-sets Let's talk about this

now with Amanda Owens, a former Great British

tennis player, who is now Roberto Forzoni, who was Johanna's

mind coach from 2007-2009. Andrew Rozanov, a tennis star

of the future, who's 16, and currently ranked

12th in his age group. Amanda, as a former player, when you

look at what she has achieved, what do you think?

I am really proud of her and delighted by her progress. She came

across brilliantly, dealing with the pressure of the situation.

And has progressed her post-match interviews have been impressive.

But, overall, her capacity to deal with the amount of pressure she has

been under has been fantastic. She will go on to great things.

Would she have been aware of that growing public pressure?

At the start, most of us weren't really aware of her. She was not

doing so brilliantly last year. All of a sudden, she has sprung onto the

scene. People have been getting behind her and willing her on.

As a tennis player, you have to be able, as she said, had to be able to

put things in a box. She focused on the match, her game plan. Of course

the pressure would have mounted. I thought she dealt with it

brilliantly. I did stay up and watch the first

set. The first set was very close. I would say there were one or two

critical moments, 5-5, a tough call. But she came back in the first set

as well. She has the capacity to go on to great things and she has done

brilliantly. She can deal with pressure.

You have worked with her, are you proud of her? She's fantastic. As

Amanda says, she's been developing over the years and I'm impressed

with her engagement with psychology. She still has a mind coach and you

can tell by her post-match interviews the way she's thinking.

We try to get the players thinking in a different way, a more strategic

way really. How do you do that, build mental toughness? There are

all different strategies, but some of them, you would get them talking

in a different way. The player, for example, will say, I can't do that

or this, on the you try and take that out of their language right

away, get them doing the controllable aspects of the match,

some players will play in the past or in the future. In the past would

be when they make a mistake, for example, and they are thinking about

that mistake. In the future they might be leading and thinking, I

could win this, or if they are losing what will someone say, so you

try and get them to condense that thought process down into exactly

what they are doing at that moment and I think... Very hard though

isn't it when you are down? It is hard, but that is why you need the

training in that aspect of the match because at that level psychology

plays such an important part. Andrew, how inspiring is it when you

see Johanna doing so well and Andy Murray and other Brits there, Andy's

brother as well? It's incredible we had three Brits in the semis and to

have Jamie now in the final, especially for my age category and

group, we always had Murray, Andy, and Jamie, sort of flying the

British flag and I think it's incredibly inspiring now to have a

British woman as well who's up there who's made semis in the four major

tournaments of the year. It's inspiring, not just for other girls

and women taking up the sport, but for everyone who is engaging in the

sport. Roberto was talking about the importance of mental approach to the

game and Johanna's spoken about that and how the help that she has

received on that front has been transformative for her. What do you

do along those lines? It's undeniable that the mental aspect is

probably the most important aspect of tennis because you get to a level

where everyone has great physical capabilities and what defines great

from good is how well you can deal with certain situations in a match.

Having played several, I know first hand how tough it is to be able to

play in the present and not think about what's happened in the past

towards what goes in the future. Not enough players give enough

importance to that. Amanda, last year, she lost her LTA funding? Yes.

For a lot of people that would be a blow and would knock you back, but

it hasn't, she's gone from strength-to-strength? And that shows

the re-Zyl Jens she has. Also, the fact that she's a real fighter, but

her behaviour on the court, I was very impressed as a sports

psychologist, it might have been down to Roberto -- resilience. She's

able to control her emotions in the right way. She bounces back, her

mistake management was excellent, so when you make a mistake, it's about

resetting your focus. So you are making me remember the sort of

people in the past who have reacted in certain ways to making mistakes

on court, John McEnroe for instance, how does that feed in, he did really

well but his approach, you felt like he was beating himself up on the

court? It was a very clever mind game. He'd actually kind of

deconstruct his opponent the other side of the net by getting cross. It

was a distraction technique, very clever. Was that coming from him,

because was there as much knowledge of all this back then? Yes. Sports

psychology was around then. I would say McEnroe at that point yes he was

very volatile, you know, his temperament was such that he'd get

overly angry but he used it to his advantage and sports psychology was

around back then. Roberto, how well do you think she can potentially to

now? She can do very well. She can go on and be a slam winner for sure.

Her progress over the last eight years, the trajectory is steep and

she's going to continue. The benefit and experience of taking part in a

semi-final of a slam, that's just going to give her more incentive to

work even harder because she knows she can play at that level now. That

the is a great thing for her self-confidence. What does having

the British public behind you do, because obviously that will give a

boost to someone but add an extra dimension of pressure as well? It

does but I always go back to Billie Jean King when she says pressure is

a privilege. So there is pressure but I always say to the players, why

are you doing it, and they think, it's a great sport, they don't think

about the pressure. They think, I love to be here and progress to the

semi-final and if I got to the final it would be even more and you ask,

do you want that pressure and they weigh it up and go, actually yes I

do, so they think about it in a different way. Pressure tells you

that you are where you want to be even though it's uncomfortable and

not many people can get there. It can be reframed to mean something

else to a player. Players have spoken about the pressure and

obviously found it unbearable. How do you see that pressure, Andrew? I

have to agree that pressure can be incredibly detrimental to your game.

What happens is, you tend to overthink shots, so a ball which you

may have time on, you start thinking, what do I play here, what

EU play now and everything can spiral out of control. But, if you

do think about pressure in this way, as it is a privilege, and you are

where you want to be because you are feeling this pressure, it can be

used to your advantage. It's essential that you understand why

you still play the game, you play because you love and not because you

want to win or you want to impress someone, you play for enjoyment.

Amanda, she only got British citizenship in 2012, played for

Australia prior to that. Do you think that will be an issue at all

in her getting the British public behind her fully? Not at all. I

think we need players like Jo and certainly I gather that the

Australian public have tried to recapture or reclaim her! It won't

be an issue. As Roberto said and it's been brought up today, as long

as she can perceive the pressure as a privilege which she does, I've

been very impressed by how she copes with pressure, especially on the key

points and, you know, I think she'll go on to great things. The British

public will be behind her. I think it's great to see the success and we

need the success in British tennis. I'm going to read some comments from

viewers. We are talking about people getting behind her. In the UK we are

desperate for tennis success we call Konta British and she's Aussie, LJ

on Twitter all of a sudden she's doing well, we are hailing her,

hence adding to her pressure. Sounds like she's been able to, actually in

the background, build up her strength physically and mentally and

hopefully she'll go on to what? Well, she's the British number one

but will go on to great things. Wimbledon is a whole lot of pressure

isn't it? Absolutely. I agree with Roberto, I think she can cope with

it well. She's going to jump in the rankings I believe to 27-28 next

week which is phenomenal. 147 last year? Yes and then to jump to 27 in

the world is just the best British female ranking for over 30 years. So

I think we've got a player that can deal with the pressure and she's

learn howing to do that as well and she will go on to greater things and

I think more slam semis and finals. Let's hope. Thank you all. Still do

come, imagine having to inject yourself with insulin every day for

nearly 50 years with a needle phobia. The first person in the

world has a pancreas transplant because of that phobia.

Elderly people are being failed by the very services designed

to care for them - according to a damning report.

Health leaders in England and Wales says too many over-65s end up in A

unnecessarily, because of a lack of help when they fall ill.

They're calling for radical steps, including providing emergency care

at home, and getting doctors to carry out ward rounds

We can speak now to Phil McCarvill from the NHS Confederation.

And Chris Badger who works for both Hertfordshire Council and nd East

North Hertfordshire Clinical Commissioning Group

which makes decisions about local healthcare services.

His organisation was praised in this report.

Thank you both for coming in. Phil, first of all, give us some of the

key headlines for the report and where they are being let down? It's

a question of the NHS failing older people, it's about the fact that we

have an ageing population, very different to when the NHS was set up

in 1948. It's about how we respond to an ageing population, one in

which people have more complex conditions and it's about getting

the care in the right place at the right time for them and making sure

we keep people well and supported at home as long as possible, that we

have the right balance of community services and absolutely that when

they need hospital care, they have access to it and they have support

and they go into hospital and receive the right quality of care

and also then support is there when they come out of hospital so they

can remain out of hospital and live at home. It sounds like an obvious

wish list and it's not something that hasn't been said before. Why is

it that we get successive reports and it seems that nothing changes.

What do you think will happen with this report? We have identified over

a series of reports and commissions, a series of problems

a series of reports and commissions, issues. What we do in this report,

we have looked at where are the really good examples of where care

is being delivered in the right place, so in someone's home, what is

working well in terms of community services and care homes, but also

what is working well in hospitals. We have good examples of where we

are changing the way we deliver NHS services. For example in Sheffield

and the Royal Berkshire, we are seeing consultants seeing people at

the earliest possible opportunity when they go into the A unit and

that changes the way that they experience services because they'll

either be discharged much quicker or they'll be admitted and the package

of care that's put together will be the right one for them. Chris,

Hertfordshire has been singled out in the report for praise, what are

you doing particularly well? Looking at both the NHS care delivered to

people and also the social care delivered to older people for making

meals, getting dressed and wash and so forth and looking at how the

different professionals can work together, whether it be a nurse, a

physio, and forgetting what organisation they work for, but

looking at the needs of the people and how we can meet those. Give us

some clear examples then of things that have been done where you are

which aren't being done elsewhere? We have started working with care

homes making sure there is a GP linked to each care home that does

the equivalent of a ward round in a care home making sure they are

looking at issues that could control up and deal with them issues as

quickly as possible, making sure the staff are able to look after them in

the care home, making sure they don't go to A unnecessarily. We

get the services and specialists to the care home really quickly rather

than that individual having to go to hospital when they don't really need

to. That sounds like a simple thing to do. Is it ex-pintive? It's

cheaper in the long run. If we can get this set up and avoid people

going to hospital, we can keep hospital for people that really

knead to be there. It should be something that's better care for the

individual because they are treated in their own home or in the care

home and saves the whole system money, social care and the NHS. Any

other examples of things you are doing? We are looking at lonelines

which we think is a big issue, over two million people over 75 live at

home. In Hertfordshire we have supported Age UK to get volunteers

to befriend people who're on their own either when they are in hospital

or in the community to give them support and company. We know

lonelines can be a real problem in terms of making people unwell,

stressed and worried. Actually, just someone to talk to them, make them a

cup of tea, can make a difference and it doesn't cost much. What

impact has that had? A big ill pact on individuals, not coming into

hospital as much. We have been able to support people leaving hospital

in a timely fashion because we know that we can have someone from Age UK

that are supporting a volunteer to maybe go and turn the heating on

when they come back, buy them milk and give them little things. How

come Hertfordshire is doing this, where did the drive come from, was

it one particular individual? Really, we talked to patients and

people that use our services and social care and that's what they

want. Often what they want is simple things and we sometimes

overcomplicate it. Doing simple things around social contact,

getting professionals from different organisations to forget about the

organisations and work together as a team, putting the patient at the

need of the heart of what is needed. Thank you both.

What have you got for us? We have a variety. But the wind will be a

feature. We are looking at severe gales and even strong gale force

winds. Why is this happening, I hear you cry. I've given up asking, the

weather is just so weird and contradictory all the time. Tell us

why? Certainly varied, that's for sure. At the moment there is a

temperature difference between Arctic Canada and Newfoundland, so

that's energised the jet stream quite a lot. You can see that aisles

illustrated here, the warm air bumping into the cold air. With a

strong jet stream, it really enhances the storms and that is what

is happening just now, low pressure areas whizzing across the shores. If

for example you are flying to America, it can slow you down, but

if you are coming back, well it can speed things up. It happened to me

last week, I got back an hour early! But then we were stacked over

Gatwick so it didn't help. And, still picking up stories. We

are going to have this scenario on and off until Monday. Really strong

winds. Time to batten down the hatches. Not as prolific in the

south-east. Time is going on, as ever. Yes, it is a busy time. I will

press on. Today, but we have is a prior weight quiet start. Some of us

have had some frost but we've also seen sunshine and showers. If

anything, the showers developing as we go through the day to give us

longer spells of rain. We have that snow at 200 metres this morning,

that level will rise as we go through the day. Into this

afternoon, for Southern counties, especially the south-west, you could

catch the odd shower. Most of us will miss them. It is the same

across East Anglia and parts of the East Midlands. Then we will get

thicker cloud, with heavy rain across Wales, north-west England and

the Pennines. Northern Ireland and Scotland, the showers merging to

give longer spells of rain. The snow level will actually retreat higher

up into the Scottish mountains. But it is going to be windy and the wind

will be a feature of the weather. Heading through this evening and

overnight, more rain coming in, following an already rain sensitive

areas. There is the risk of local flooding. We will be looking at

gusts of wind. Strong winds we are expecting across the far north of

mainland Scotland and also the Northern Isles. If you are

travelling tomorrow morning, bear that in mind. It could lead to some

destruction but we will keep you updated here. -- some disruption.

BBC local radio will do the same job. Across Scotland and Northern

Ireland and northern England, gusty winds. These are the values you can

expect. 60 mph across the Northern Isles and mainland Scotland. Here,

we're looking at strong force, between 80 and 90 mph. We're keeping

a close eye on these warnings because they may actually be

increased. Something to out for. The rain will continue to drift steadily

southwards as we go through the rest of the moral, becoming weaker as it

does so. Behind it, we're back into that mixture of sunshine and showers

but again it will feel cold wherever you are with the wind. And we will

cease no showers mainly on the hills of Scotland. These are the values.

That leads us into Saturday morning. Conditions across northern Scotland

are going to be atrocious. We will have blizzards on the hills and will

be snowdrifts as well. For all of us, it is going to be a cold start.

As we go through the day, a showers this far south could have a wintry

components to them. The very nature of the word shower tells us that not

all of us will see them. The potential is certainly there. Again,

it is going to feel cold. Not as likely on Sunday but we are back to

square one on Monday with more deals or severe gales.

Welcome to the programme if you've just joined us.

The British woman who doctors say has become the first

person ever to have a pancreas transplant because of a severe

phobia of needles speaks to us exclusively.

The UK agrees to take in more child refugees from Syria who've been

We will get the latest from Damascus.

The government has confirmed it will allow unaccompanied child

refugees from Syria to come to Britain in exceptional

circumstances - but it hasn't said how many will be accepted,

and it won't take in those who have already fled to Europe.

It is right to help those who are close to Syria. It is the children

who are alone in Europe now who we should be really worried about,

because they are so vulnerable to gangs. I have met 11 or

12-year-olds, a similar age to my children, who are alone with nobody

to look after them in Calais, and they really need somebody to look

after them and care for them. They are so much at risk.

The Swedish government says up to eighty thousand people who sought

asylum in the country may have their claims rejected.

Over 160,000 migrants applied for asylum in Sweden in 2015,

the highest per capita number in Europe.

Economy grew by 2.3% over the last three months. That is according to

the office for National statistics but it leaves annual growth down by

2.9%. The SNP have called

for an investigation into the tax The European Competition

Commissioner says she would be willing to investigate

Google's tax arrangements. A British woman has become

the first person in the world to have a pancreas transplant

because of a severe needle phobia. Sue York, who has had type-1

diabetes since she was seven, would shake uncontrollably and vomit

when injecting herself with insulin. She had to do that twice a day over

nearly 50 years. We'll talk to her live

in just a moment. The UK's 2nd biggest energy supplier

SSE is to cut its standard domestic The company says the move will take

effect at the end of March. SSE is the 2nd of the big 6

suppliers to announce Three dead sperm whales which became

stranded on the Lincolnshire coast It took a team of workers

at Skegness five hours They've been taken to landfill

sites around the country. Let's catch up with all the sport

now and join Katherine Downes. So it's the end of the road

for Johanna Konta in

the Australian Open. But not all British hope over? It is

a bit of a purple patch. What an achievement for Johanna Conder. --

Johanna Konta. Beaten by somebody way above her in terms of the

rankings. Jamie Murray is through and Andy Murray still to come. It

could be an exciting few days and an exciting future for British tennis

because we have the French open coming up in May and you can

guarantee that Johanna Konta will be just chomping at the bit to get

going there after she has done so well. But it was not to be fur. She

was hoping to be the first female Brit since Virginia Wade to reach

the final a major but she last in straight sets. Her opponent was just

too consistent. She was hoping to become the first

female Brit since Virginia Wade to reach the final of a major,

but lost her Australian Open semi-final in straight

sets overnight. She showed some impressive form

against Angelique Kerber, coming back from 3-love

down in the first set. But the German was too

consistent and won 7-5, 6-2. Kerber will face Serena

Williams in the final. I think I did a good job in

separating the circumstances of the match and the gravity of the match

from the actual work that I had had, which was to go out there and play

the best match I could today. So I went out there with a very clear

head, and I really give it my all and tried to do my best for every

single point. I really enjoyed the experience. You can hear the

confidence in her voice. There will be at least one British

player in the final in Melbourne. Jamie Murray and partner Bruno

Soares won their men's doubles semi. Murray has lost his last two

appearances in grand slam finals - at Wimbledon and the US Open -

so his hoping to make it third time It is huge. Other than the Davis

Cup, that is the biggest thing I can win in my career, a Grand Slam.

Unfortunately, I lost two last year. It is not a great feeling to do

that. Of course you are proud of yourself for getting that far and it

is a great achievement but once you get there, obviously you want to

win. Manchester City will face Liverpool

in the League Cup Final. Everton came to the Etihad

with a 2-1 lead from the first leg, and they went ahead through this

cracker from Ross Barkley. But a Sergio Aguero

winner clinched it. Tyson Fury has been reminded

by boxing authorities of his responsibilities as a role

model, following comments he made which were deemed

sexist and homophobic. The World Heavyweight Champion told

the British Boxing Board of Control he understood the responsibilities

upon him and expressed regret And how about this to tick

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to just see the Northern Lights. This paraglider in Norway had

a very different ambition. Horacio Llorens said the opportunity

of 'dancing with Aurora' was something he simply

couldn't turn down. Perhaps not sporting action but look

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A British woman has become the first person in the world

to have a pancreas transplant because of a severe needle phobia.

Sue York, who has had type-1 diabetes since she was seven,

would shake uncontrollably and vomit when injecting herself with insulin,

all because her pancreas wasn't making the essential hormone.

She had to do this twice a day for nearly 50 years.

Our bodies need insulin to work properly.

It helps us to use the glucose in our blood

Sue needed to inject herself with insulin twice a day for nearly

50 years in order to regulate her blood sugar levels.

Doctors say the surgery is a world's first and has prolonged her life.

Sue's husband Rob is with us too who's supported her

through the eligibility process of become a pancreas donor recipient

after watching her health start to nosedive.

And we're joined by Sue's surgeon, from Salford. Thank you very much.

You look the picture of health. I feel it. Thank you. It has obviously

transformed your life but tell us more about why it was. Obviously you

had the diabetes but the reason you ended up qualifying for this

transplant that has transformed your life was because of your fear of

needles. I had a very severe needle phobic. It began from my first visit

to hospital when I was seven after I was diagnosed. I was exceptionally

poorly. Obviously I had been unwell for a period of about three years

and I had been backward and forward is to hospital. I finally got

diagnosed, taken to hospital, and I began to have a severe needle

phobic. From the first time they took blood, I found it very

traumatic and my mother was sent out of the room. Consequently, after a

long period of injecting insulin twice a day, I reached a critical

point when the DVLA changed the rules and regulations for diabetic

drivers in 2012. Prior to that, they had advised on what you should do,

but instead it became law that you had to finger prick before you got

in a car to drive. You should finger prick every two hours if you were on

a long journey. If you were doing a short journey, like I was doing,

because of competitions to diabetes, which made it hard for me to walk

uphill or into the wind, because of my angina, I would be taking my dog

in the car a very short distance to the park and then I would put her

back in the car after exercise, perhaps go and do some shopping and

come home. Technically, what I should have done was to have checked

my blood sugar levels every time I got back in the car because I was

doing physical activity that could lower my blood sugar. To me, that

was overwhelming. Describe what it was like. You have told us when it

started, and I'm sure everyone can empathise. The way insulin reacts

with skin tissue, it damages it. It hardens it. And you rotate your

injection sites to try to avoid this. But when you are very young,

and you are struggling with needle phobia is, -- with a needle phobic,

struggling to inject yourself, you go where feels safe. Did you have to

inject yourself? Yes, they encourage you to inject yourself from the word

go. Within two weeks of being admitted, I was injecting myself.

You practice on an orange. And how did it make you feel? Horrendous. I

was terrified and I would cry. When I came home from hospital, my mother

was fantastic. She sat with me in morning and she would hold my leg

for me, to put the needle in. But it would take me up to 20 minutes to do

it. It was just heartbreaking. I hated it. And it just got worse over

the years? Describe the physical impact on your body, when you would

be anticipating having to do it and then actually having to do it. The

anticipation is part of the issue because you build up to it. You

cannot help but do that. It is something you are dealing with every

day of your life, twice a day more frequently, if you are trying to

finger prick, which I found impossible to do on top of two

injections. I would measure the insulin out, I got it so that I

could do that and distance myself, switch myself off, but when it came

to actually putting the needle into my body, that was a very different

issue and I would shake. Sometimes I would shake uncontrollably, as you

said, and I would have to put it down and walk away. Other times,

because I would begin to feel extremely sick, sometimes I would

vomit. It got to a point where I was beginning to seriously struggle to

actually maintain two injections a day. I did because you know that

your life relies on it and you have no option, you have to do it, but it

was becoming horrendous. As I say, when the DVLA changed the rules,

that was the point where something in me gave and I approached my

diabetic doctor and said that something had to give. I need to be

considered for some level of transplant.

I came away from the sessions with prompts in my mind which, as soon as

I used them gave me an instant calm. However, on the third time, I was

very receptive to hypnotism. I went into such a deep transthat I came

out of it remembering absolutely nothing.

Suddenly I went from having something that fair enough it would

wear off as the week continued but instead of something being there

that I could pull out of my mind and use, I went to having nothing and I

thought if I'm too susceptible to hypnotherapy and this will happen

every time, it's not going to work because I need to be aware, I need

to have an awareness, so at the suggestion of a diabetic nurse at my

local surgery, I tried CBT. We tried two different types, but

unfortunately it didn't work very well, the first was horrendous. Rob,

what was it like over the years having to watch Sue go through this

and endure that? It's been the last five years that have been worse

because of health deterioration as well. When I came into our

relationship, I accepted life may not go on beyond 50 or 50-odd

because of complications from diabetes, that was part of the

package basically. Bewhen you have been the person who's been running

behind Sue down the road because you couldn't keep up, the person you

knew couldn't get up the stairs, that's the different three, four,

five years made and that was quite awful really. Knowing that the

future was only going to get worse, that was quite daunting. Going from

someone who's normally fit as a butcher's dog, to almost being

incapable of going shopping is terrible, but thanks to Dr Rahman,

things have turned round fantastically. Let's bring him in,

because he's the man that did this transplant that has changed your

life. Amazing, yes. Do you want to say hi to him. Hi! Brilliant to see

you! Good to see you and hear from both of you. It's great to have you

joining us, thank you. Thank you very much for having me. We have

been hearing so much about Sue's needle phobia which was the criteria

in the end for her actually getting the pancreatic transplant. When you

met Sue, had you ever come across something this extreme which could

only be addressed with a transplant like that? It was a very hard

decision to make in Sue's case because this was clearly very

exceptional. We have set guidelines for patients to go on the list for

pancreas transplant because, as you always know, there are always

ongoing lists of organs needed. Sue was seen by one of my colleagues who

first assessed her in the clinic and my encounter with her the first time

was when I saw her on the ward waiting for the transplant. Clearly

she was very terrified. My main worry was how we are even going to

get some blood tests before the anaesthetist actually decided her

suitability to go ahead with the transplant.

A very good point, Sue, I mean going through the whole lot must have been

traumatic in itself? I was very, very fortunate because, although it

took a considerable period of time to get me on the list, you're

supposed to, once on the list, you have a various blood test routine

which is monthly and that for me was horrendous, the idea of having all

of this blood taken every month. But I got the phone call on the 21st day

of being on the list, it was really fast and it was just amazing. It's

like, oh, I've had this done once, I've not got to have them done

again. That was amazing. Big relief? Yes. But poor Dr Dhanda knows when

trying to insert a canula into me, I was just in a terrible state and he

couldn't get the canula in at all. Our main worry was that once we'd

given her a pancreas transplant, it was one big operation she was going

to undergo, but the main concern was, in order to monitor the

function of the organ, she would still need blood tests and that was

the greatest dilemma, so we just wanted the operation to go right for

her and it did in her case and she actually sailed through the

operation. I'm very pleased for her. People watching will be absolutely

taken with the decorrespondention of your life before and the failing

health and how you you are a picture of health -- description of your

life. The transplant is carried out for different reasons because of the

state people are in. How common is it because people will be watching

thinking, gosh, something like that could absolutely transform my life?

Yes. As I said earlier, we treated Sue's case as an exceptional case.

We spoke to all the different centres throughout the country and

we had mixed responses. My colleague who had first seen her in fact wrote

to an American centre to take their opinion and they had also not

encountered anything like that before. So it was a difficult

decision, but on individual merit, it did qualify for her

transplantation and clearly, as we can see, it's transformed her life.

I personally was very closely monitoring her after the operation

and three, four months down the line, I was thrilled to know that

her phobia of needles is slowly going away. It was amazing. Is that

right? Yes, it's not at a point where it's completely reduced and I

think I will need to go back to CBT to address it completely, but I am,

for the first time ever, actually managing to finger prick. I do shake

a bit but I am managing to do it because it's a requirement that I do

it, only once a week. One of my arguments was that I needed distance

from the routine, I needed to have that mental and physical break in

order to be able to address the problem, to address the issue and I

think what I've seen in myself so far is that there is an aleaviation

of the stress, it's not gone completely as I think you guys will

know, so I think at the end of the day, it's going to take time. But I

actually feel, I'm in a position now to tackle it, whereas before, trying

to tackle it while I was still immersed in it was an impossibility.

Great to see you in such good health. Thank you all, Sue, Rob and

Rahman. Still to come, serial killer Levi

Bellfield as admitted for the first time Kimming Milly Dowler 14 years

after he did it. We'll speak to the policeman who put him in prison

later this hour. This morning we've been telling

you about plans to allow child refugees from Syria and other

conflict zones to live in the UK. The government says it will take

in unaccompanied children under the age of 18 - but it hasn't said

how many and those already in Europe ?10 million will be given instead

to help vulnerable minors The UK has accepted 1,000 refugees

from Syria so far under the Vulnerable Persons Resettlement

Programme set up last summer - and has committed to taking

in a total of 20,000 by 2020. Sources have told the BBC that the

numbers involved will not significantly increase the UK's

current commitment to take in 20,000 refugees by 2020.

Meanwhile, in Sweden, the authorities say they're likely to

reject the asylum claims of 80,000 migrants. Around 163,000 applied for

asylum in Sweden in 2015 which was the highest per Capita number in

Europe. Of the approximately 58,000 cases

processed last year, 55% were accepted. The MP Yvette Cooper is

heading up Labour's refugee Task Force, she told us the Government

needs to do more to help children who have already fled to Europe and

she's called for tighter borders to stem the flow of others making the

journey. I think we need stronger borders in order to manage the flow

of people right across Europe so I think that the Schengen arrangement

across Europe needs to end and they need proper border checks across

Europe. We also need stronger action against smuggling gangs. You need to

do what you can to prevent people travelling in the first place but we

cannot turn our backs on children already in Europe desperate families

who've already come to Europe, because they are fleeing from

persecution in Syria or Afghanistan. In Italy they said last year 4,000

of the children just disappeared and most likely that means into the arms

of exploitive smuggling and trafficking gangs.

Let's go live to Westminster and talk to our Political Correspondent,

Ross Hawkins. What reaction to all of this? What appears to have

happened here is Save the Children, the charity, has run an incredibly

effective campaign in calling specifically for 3,000 unaccompanied

children to be let into Britain. Because there was that specific

figure on it, that allowed Labour, the Liberal Democrats, campaigners

to get behind that demand. The Government in the end's had to

respond. It's responded by saying no, but it's responded by saying

look, we think the help is best delivered nearer to those refugee

camps, so you don't encourage people to make a dangerous journey.

They are talking about sending civil servants over, that could mean more

people coming to Britain from within the EU and it could mean hundreds.

The other thing you might be struck by is the rhetoric. Yesterday we had

David Cameron talking about a bunch of migrants at Prime Minister's

Questions, distinguishing his policy for Jeremy Corbyn. Look at the press

release they sent to journalists from the Home Office. UK to offer

sanctuary to unaccompanied refugee children. Is this Government trying

to sound tough or is it trying to sound like it's reaching out? In

reality, it's a combination of both. Ministers understand on the one hand

the emotional impact of seeing those unaccompanied children Yvette Cooper

was talking to us about earlier, 11-12-year-olds on their own in a

camp in Calais to whom the British Government is saying no, you can't

come in. But also Tim pact of the strain on services and the

perception that they keep on demanding Britain to do more and

take more and that Britain keeps on saying yes and has already

contributed 20,000. You can clearly see the Government trying to chart

away between the two demands while keeping a distinction between its

policy and Jeremy Corbyn's as distinct as it possibly consider.

We can speak to our guest for the UNHCH in Damascus. Tell us what the

situation is in terms of getting aid through to people to try to ensure

they are protected as well as they can be in their home country? Well,

the numbers are enormous in terms of people in need of humanitarian

access. We have 13.5 million people all over the country, not to mention

4.5 million in hard-to-reach places and in besieged areas, there are

about 400,000. We also have to mention that there are about 6.5

million displaced, meaning they have left their homes because they are

destroyed and they are living in temporary urban shelters with slight

or no income, in need of humanitarian assistance. Is that

assistance getting through? Usually to our normal places where

we deliver, it's easy to get access, but in areas where access is

difficult or it's hard-to-reach, we are only able to reach 10-15% of

that population. We really hope that we can push more for open access to

those areas so we can have regular and steady delivery.

The UK is talking about working with the UNHCR to really find young

people who're in particular need to be able to get out of Syria and

neighbouring countries to come to the UK. Is it easy to identify

children and others who have an exceptional need to get out and get

them out? Well, the Syrian crisis, 50% of the

children are under the age of six, and a lot of them have lost parents,

or both parents, in this crisis. Definitely, there are serious

concerns for their protection. Thank you very much for joining us. And

thank you for joining us today. Still to come, Levi Bellfield has

for the first time admitted raping and murdering 13-year-old Milly

Dowler. We will speak to the policeman who put him in prison. US

scientists have urged the World Health Organisation to take urgent

action over the Zika virus which has caused panic in Brazil. We will

speak to our colleague from the BBC Brazilian service. The government

has confirmed that will allow unaccompanied child refugees from

Syria to come to Britain in exceptional circumstances but it has

not said how many will be accepted and it will not take in those who

have already fled to Europe. It is right to help those who are close to

Syria. It is the children who are alone in Europe now who we should be

really worried about because they are so vulnerable to Angus. I have

met 11 or 12-year-olds, a similar age to my children, alone with

nobody to look after them in the camps at Calais. They really need

someone to look after them and care for them otherwise they are so much

at risk. The Swedish government says up to 80,000 people who sought

asylum in the country might have their claims rejected.

The UK economy grew by 0.5 percent during the fourth quarter of 2015

and by 2.2 percent over the year according to the Office

These GDP numbers show that the British economy continues to grow

steadily and despite turbulence in the world economy, Britain is

pushing ahead, but with what is going on around the world, there may

be bumpy times ahead. The SNP have called

for an investigation into the tax The European Competition

Commissioner says she would be willing to investigate

Google's tax arrangements. A British woman has become

the first person in the world to have a pancreas transplant

because of a severe needle phobia. Sue York, who has had type-1

diabetes since she was seven, would shake uncontrollably and vomit

when injecting herself with insulin. I would begin to feel extremely

sick. Sometimes I would vomit. It got to a point where I was beginning

to seriously struggle to maintain two injections a day. I did because

you know that your life relies on it. You have no option. But it was

becoming horrendous. The UK's second biggest energy

supplier SSE is to cut its standard domestic

gas tariff by 5.3%. The company says the move will take

effect at the end of March. SSE is the second of the big 6

suppliers to announce Three dead sperm whales which became

stranded on the Lincolnshire coast It took a team of workers

at Skegness five hours They've been taken to landfill

sites around the country. Yohanna Konta is out of the

Australian open. She was hoping to become the first

female Brit since Virginia Wade to reach the final of a major,

but lost her Australian Open semi-final in straight

sets overnight. There will be at least one British

player in the final in Melbourne. Jamie Murray and partner Bruno

Soares won their men's doubles semi. Murray has lost his last two

appearances in grand slam finals - at Wimbledon and the US Open -

so his hoping to make it third time Manchester City will face Liverpool

in the League Cup Final. Everton came to the Etihad

with a 2-1 lead from the first leg, and they went ahead through this

cracker from Ross Barkley. But a Sergio Aguero

winner clinched it. Roberto Martinez says his players

were heartbroken after the defeat. And Tyson Fury has been reminded of

his responsibilities as a role model by the British boxing board of

control. He had made comments are deemed to be sexist and homophobic.

The heavyweight champion has expressed regret at causing offence.

Thank you very much. US scientists has urged the World

Health Organisation to take urgent action with the Zika virus, which

has caused panic in Brazil. Tell us more about the impact this is

happening in Brazil? It is scaring a lot of people because of this

possible link with women affected by the disease. Even though only a few

number of cases have been detected, a lot of people are nervous, and in

the case of pregnancies and public alerts, it is a conjugated issue.

The virus is very unknown. A lot of people are still not sure if it

causes this. How many babies are being born with this? There was an

average of 150, and all of a sudden it has shot up. 4000 suspected cases

in a little over six months. Although it has improved... The

something wrong there. For those in cases but they cannot link them? So

far only six cases that could be influenced by the virus, but even

though 100% cannot be proven, size does not know. The World Health

Organisation suspects that there is a causal relationship but no one can

confirm. But the number of cases in Brazil is suspect because the virus

has been increasing. And it is such a rare occurrence. For the health

service to be dealing with that number must be putting quite a

strain on reason versus in itself. Brazil has an endemic of dengue

virus, and Zika is sometimes the same. Only one in four will develop

the symptoms. For years, people might be misdiagnosed as sufferers

of deadly fever when actually they had Zika. This correlation with

birth defects like microcephaly has only been noticed recently. It is a

very weird because there are suspicions that it can be

transmitted sexually. So far, there is a huge question mark around the

world. Experts are thinking that this could become endemic in Latin

America and it could reach America, the USA and the southern states. It

is really a race against time. The vaccine is only years away. The most

optimistic estimate is three years' time. It is very tough. And you can

imagine the nervousness of anyone falling pregnant at the moment. Four

countries in Latin America have issued pregnancy alerts. I think

Brazil was the most Draconian. Police said, avoid travelling to

these areas. The official advice is docked to your doctor, do the exams

and protect yourself from the mosquitoes. Effort to eradicate

mosquitoes are the priority. I don't think any state will be trying to

stop people getting pregnant. There are legal issues and economic

issues. Is there evidence that pregnancy numbers are dropping?

People are talking about that, people with more money in Brazil are

talking about freezing eggs. People are looking at IVF, but this is a

solution for people with money. If you do not have money, you will have

to rely on more tests. Even that will strain the country, which is

under severe recession. Thank you, Fernando. Interesting. Still to

come, three dead whales that washed up on a beach in ligature had been

taken to a landfill site, but how did they move the 30 tonne animals?

We will find out more. -- a beach in Lancashire.

Police forces say they're reviewing a number of other cases

after the serial killer, Levi Bellfield, admitted murdering

the Surrey schoolgirl Milly Dowler 14 years ago.

The Metropolitan Police says it is liaising with forces

across the UK after receiving new information.

Bellfield was given a whole-life prison sentence in June 2011

He confessed to the murder for the first time

during an investigation into whether he had an accomplice.

Colin Sutton - who led the Met Police team that

Thank you very much for joining us. Are you surprised that he has now

said this? Yes. Completely shocked. Levi Bellfield is not the sort of

person who admits anything. Not the Levi Bellfield that I knew. It came

out of the blue. He has been questioned extensively about it,

hasn't he? Yes. And up until now he has always said no comments, and

veteran Huntley denied that he has committed these offences. You will

remember the Milly Dowler trial, his parents were -- the parents were put

through a staggering ordeal in the witness box when he tried to

besmirch their name. And it was all for nothing. They were put through

that for nothing and he is now saying that it was him. It is a

surprise. What do you think is going on? What is your suspicion? My first

suspicion will be that he is trying to manipulate the system, doing

something to orchestrate better conditions for him at some point in

the future, or if the law should change and he could apply for

parole. But perhaps he has seen the light and he really wants to clear

the slate? If that is the case, we need to look forward to a lot more

confessions because not only were the other two murders, and the

attempt to murder he was convicted for, but there are scores of other

offences that I know he was involved in that he will need to be

confessing to if he really wants to wipe clean the slate. Talk us

through the investigation. He was given a whole life prison sentence

in June of 2011 for murdering Milly Dowler. And that was the fourth

sentence he had received. He had received three whole life tariffs

for the London offences at the time in 1980 and 1982. He is as bad as

anyone I ever came across. He is locked up with the key thrown away,

so to speak. And that is how it should stay because he is so

dangerous. Notwithstanding any kind of change of heart, obviously that

is good. But he has not shown any remorse and that does not help the

parents of these young girls. People talk about closure, there is no

closure when you have lost someone you love under those circumstances.

It is with you forever. How difficult was it to catch? -- to

catch him. It was very difficult because we started with the murderer

branch in 2004 and all we had was the fact that the girl had been

killed. I had a fantastic team and a lot of support from the police then,

and we identified Levi Bellfield as a suspect about two months after

that. How did you do that? It was through CCTV. We saw the vehicle and

it was one of 25,000 vehicles. We tried to eliminate the vehicles with

help from the public. It was old-fashioned detective work.

help from the public. It was was no DNA evidence, there was no

easy route. It was piecing together circumstantial case work, that

eventually convinced the jury. Talk us through the timeline, the

murderers and the time frame. Millie was the first in March of 2002. --

Milly. Surrey Police were investigating that. There were other

incidents but it was not put together until August of 2004, when

Annalee Dellacqua was murdered. That was when my team realised that there

was a link to other offences. We had a big investigation running, and it

ran until 2004. We were investigating him for four years,

just for the London offences. But during that, when we identified him,

we realised that he lived so close to where Milly Dowler was abducted.

That is when we went to Surrey Police and told them that they had

to look at this guy because he was clearly a menace and a danger to

women and young girls. And he was right on the spot when Milly went

missing. That was how the investigation into Milly's death

became focused on him. That was November or December of 2004. Andy

two investigations went in parallel. There was a team in Surrey looking

at Milly Dowler, and my team in London looking at the other two

cases. But we work together and eventually he was convicted of all

the offences. But Surrey Police had to work hard, they were some way

behind us and they had to spend a lot of time after he was convicted

of our offences before they were able to convicted. And how many

other offences do you believe he has been involved in? There was an

indictment of nine cases of rape and assault that were left on file. That

gives you an idea of how bad he is. It was thought it was not worth

addressing those because of what he had done and had been convicted of.

It was a series of half a dozen drug induced rates of young girls that we

believe he committed with his friends, that essentially we were

told that it was obligated enough and we did not need to go into that.

And there are scores of other serious assaults and sexual assaults

over a period of time that we believe he was involved in. The

whole thing was quite shocking, but once he was convicted of the first

two murders and attentive murder, and sentenced to a whole life tariff

three times, the decision was, well, we explained this to the victims but

there is no point in putting resources and money into these

crimes because we cannot put him into prison for any longer. I think

that was probably a sensible decision but what he has been

sentenced for does not represent the scale of his criminality in any way.

And he has now admitted abducting, raping and killing Milly Dowler, so

there will obviously be more coming from that but thank you very much

for talking to us. The European Competition

Commissioner says she is willing to investigate Google's tax

should someone complain. Her comments come as the SNP's

economy spokesman, Stewart Hosie, writes a letter calling

for such a probe. I think we should be in a union

where everyone has a chance of making it. If you are a small

innovative company, the big e one shouldn't do it. Do you

believe they are in a sweetheart deal? I don't know the details of

the deal. If you were asked to investigate it, would you? Well, if

we find there is something to be concerned about, if someone writes

to us and says this is maybe not as it should be, we'll take a look.

Her comments come as the SNP's economy spokesman, Stewart Hosie,

writes a letter calling for such a probe.

When the settlement was announced, the trezcy said this was a great

deal, Ten Downing Street said something rather different. The

public are left with an impression, it may only be an impression,

nevertheless the public have the impression that certain large

companies can effectively negotiate what it is they may or may not

choose to pay while the average man, woman or business in the street is

given a tax demand and heaven help them if they don't pay on time.

Let's have the European Competition Commissioner look at this,

respecting taxpayer confidentiality and confirm that the tax paid was in

fact the tax due or whatever else she may come across.

We can talk to Michael Devereaux about this. What is the scope of

what the European Commission could do? The European Commission has wide

powers in competition matters, so if it were the case that the European

Commission thought that the UK Government has given specific

favourable treatment to any individual company, then certainly

the European Commission has powers to investigate that and instruct the

UK Government to desist from doing that, if necessary, in this case, to

impose more tax. So the commission does have wide powers in this

instance. Has it ever done that? Recently in the last year or two,

the commission has begun to investigate tax deals in a number of

countries, Luxembourg and Ireland in particular. They have been rather

different from the case of Google that those have been mainly the

cases where there have been specific rulings instigated by the tax

authorities in those countries for specific companies. They are rather

different from this case where there's just been essentially the

conclusion of an audit within the HMRC for Google.

And on that, Google says Governments make tax law, the tax authorities

independently enforce the law and Google complies with the law? Well,

I think we have no reason to question that in a way. It's

certainly the case HMRC has to comply with the existing law that we

have in the existing international tax law and it's the case that

Government ministers are not allowed to interfere in that process. So I

don't think I've seen anything which says HMRC's not done its job

properly. I think it's certainly the case that international existing tax

law is so complicated that it's very difficult to know exactly how much

Google should have paid or indeed any other large company should have

paid. There's some degree of uncertainty and there's certainly

different interpretations of the tax law that could be given but it's

HMRC's job to interpret that in a way that it thinks is appropriate

and to impose that on the company. The European Commission said it

would investigate if there were a complaint, is it always open, is it

as simple as that, just if an individual makes a complaint? This

would be rather unusual. I think the cases in which the European

Commission's taken on up until now have been rather large cases I have

have taken rather a large time to start up and conclude. I don't know

any other cases where a single politician's just made a complaint

and the European Commission's investigated it like that. I think

that would be quite unusual. Thank you very much.

Three dead sperm whales which washed up on the Lincolnshire coast have

been removed in a delicate five-hour operation.

A team of 14 workers moved the bodies -

which weighed up to 30 tonnes each - away from the beach in Skegness.

Our Correspondent Lisa Hampele is here.

It was probably a pretty gruesome task actually for them to do. Talk

us through how they did it? task actually for them to do. Talk

sad end for the majestic animals that were washed up. We've had five

of them washed up, as you will remember, over the weekend, and they

are thought to be from a larger pod. We had 12 that were washed up in the

Netherlands and Germany earlier in the month and then these over the

weekend that caused such distress. Overnight, contractors from a local

council did their best to move them gently and slowly. They asked the

public to stay away because they thought it would be upsetting. Also,

there are fears that it is actually a public health problem and in fact,

when there was a postmortem of one of the whales earlier, it exploded

because that's what happens when a lot of gas is built up in the

whales. Last night, bulldozers came in and lifted them very gently on to

low-loaders, having wrapped them in two layers of tarpaulin. They were

very slowly taken away. It was thought it was going to take eight

hours but they they started at 8 o'clock last night and it took

five-and-a-half hours. They were pleased with how it went. They took

the three whales away on the low-loaders. Then they are going to

be taken to a land fill site. It was done under darkness, one of the

contractors saying they took the most respect they possibly could. It

was a very gentle procedure and they were very careful not to upset

anybody and treat them properly. What is the latest on what actually

happened with the whales and why they ended up being washed up? I've

talked to experts and it's thought that they were probably young

adolescent males who - normally in the Atlantic - they strayed into the

North Sea probably looking for mates. Then they start looking for

food and they may have found squid and they'll be chasing the food and

get out into the wrong place, into the North Sea, then chase the food,

find there is no food and get lost. As they come down the East Coast,

it's very shallow waters and sand dunes and getting into trouble and

getting disorientated and can't use their sonar when there's very

shallow waters, then they get stuck. How unusual to have whales off the

British coast? Well, we do get beachings, a few each year really,

but this is very unusual to have so many and experts are trying to work

out why that is. They don't yet know. They are looking at the

contents of the whales' stomachs. They look as though they hadn't got

any food in their stomach, so that is ongoing and we await to see what

the findings will be but it may be we just don't discover what made it

happen. As we were saying, it's been quite an operation to finally clear

them off the beach and they now go to land fill? That is right. They

decided that is the best way forward and they need to put them into a

land fill site. These three have been taken to a land fill site in

Sheffield. Thank you very much. Some breaking

news. We are hearing a sixth City broker has been cleared of helping

convicted trader Tom Hayes to rig the rate used by banks to fix

borrowing charges called LIBOR. Five others were acquitted yesterday.

Reaction on the BBC News Channel throughout the morning to that.

The Government has announced Britain will be taking in more unaccompanied

refugee children from Syria and the camps in neighbouring countries.

Yvette Cooper has upped Labour's refugee Task Force and told us the

Government needs to do more to help children who've already fled to

Europe and she called for tighter borders to stem the flow of others

making the journey. I think we need stronger borders in

order to manage the flow of people across Europe. I think that the

Schengen arrangement across Europe needs to end and they need proper

border checks across Europe. We need stronger action against smuggling

gangs. You need to to what you can to prevent people travelling in the

first place, but we cannot turn our backs on children already in Europe,

desperate families who've already come to Europe because they are

fleeing from persecution in Syria or Afghanistan. In Italy, they said

that last year, 4,000 of these children just disappeared and most

likely that means into the arms of exploitive smuggling and trafficking

gangs. Lots of comments coming in from you

on this. Twitter saying 9,000 children in the UK need urgent

foster care, I know what to do, take 3,000 more. J on e-mail, the UK

policy should realistically be taking over orphaned children from

camps surrounding Syria, prioritising the youngest. One

anonymous texter says, how will the mass of refugee children affect our

children in our schools? Do we have the room? Anthony says the asylum

situation is a mess, Britain needs to stand firm, resist any more

coming here, we are doing the most in the camps abroad. John on text

says if child migrants turn out to have families, the children must be

sent to them. The child must not be an excuse to let others come. David

on e-mail, sophisticated European countries should be more than

capable of dealing with child protection, they have the means to

achieve this, the UK should help those children in war-torn areas

where there is no system of protection. Thank you for your

comments on that today and everything else we have been talking

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