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Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9 o'clock, I'm Victoria Derbyshire, | :00:08. | :00:09. | |
This morning - an emergency session of the European parliament | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
is about to begin at any moment - they'll debate the Brexit vote - | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
and we'll bring you some of the key moments live. | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
In the last hour Chancellor George Osborne says life outside | :00:24. | :00:25. | |
the EU won't be as rosy, Britain will be poorer and there'll | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
be a "prolonged period of economic adjustment" - | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
Also on the programme, "we no longer have confidence | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
in you" - that's the message from many Labour MPs to their party | :00:38. | :00:40. | |
leader Jeremy Corbyn, 47 of whom have now left | :00:41. | :00:42. | |
We'll talk to some of those who want him gone | :00:43. | :00:55. | |
The first duty of any leaders to communicate with the electorate. | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
Over half of Labour voters did not know our position and yet we were | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
united on campaigning for staying in the year. That is an untenable | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
situation. It is another Brexit for England. Iceland have turned it | :01:15. | :01:27. | |
round! My contract was up so now is the time for someone else to oversee | :01:28. | :01:39. | |
this talented group of players. So disappointing if you're in England | :01:40. | :01:40. | |
supporter. Hello, welcome to the programme, | :01:41. | :01:53. | |
we're live until 11. The European Parliament, | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
home of MEPs, is meeting this morning in an emergency session | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
to debate the fallout from the UK's They'll also debate a motion - | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
which won't be enforcable - calling for the the "immediate | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
activation" of Article 50. Article 50 is the formal legal | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
process a country can use Throughout the morning | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
we're expecting to hear from the Presidents | :02:14. | :02:24. | |
of the European Council and Parliament Donald Tusk | :02:25. | :02:26. | |
and Jean-Claude Juncker - plus leaders of European | :02:27. | :02:28. | |
Parliamentary groups including We'll bring you some of those | :02:29. | :02:30. | |
speeches live throughout the programme this morning and - | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
you can watch the whole Do get in touch on all the stories | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
we're talking about. use the hashtag Victoria LIVE | :02:37. | :02:47. | |
and If you text, you will be charged The European Parliament sit in an | :02:48. | :03:00. | |
emergency session and David Cameron is heading to Brussels to meet | :03:01. | :03:03. | |
leaders for the first time since the result. | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
He's expected to urge them to take a "constructive" | :03:08. | :03:09. | |
Of course he won't be involved in those talks - | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
and we're expecting more details today about how the new Tory | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
leader, and next Prime Minister, will be chosen. | :03:19. | :03:20. | |
George Osborne has said in the last hour that the contest will be | :03:21. | :03:23. | |
all about deciding the UK's relationship with the EU. | :03:24. | :03:25. | |
Labour, meanwhile, remain caught up in internal anguish. | :03:26. | :03:27. | |
Let's talk to our political guru Norman at Westminster. | :03:28. | :03:40. | |
It is another humongous day in Westminster. There are bad | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
warnings from the Chancellor about life outside the EU. The first | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
public comments from a cabinet minister about a second referendum. | :03:53. | :04:00. | |
George Osborne almost seemed to be saying, I told you this would | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
happen. The economy is taking a hit. The markets are in turmoil. We could | :04:05. | :04:17. | |
be in for a prolonged period. He said we need to expect taxes to go | :04:18. | :04:29. | |
up. He was asked, given all that, do you regret holding this referendum? | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
He did not bite on that. You kind of sense he probably did deeply regret | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
the decision. He had this warning that we are going to be worse off. | :04:42. | :04:50. | |
We are in a prolonged period of economic adjustment for the UK. We | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
are adjusting to life outside the EU and it will not be as economically | :04:55. | :04:56. | |
rosy as life inside the EU. Is this addressed when we get new forecasts | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
for the economy? Yes, and that will be a decision for | :05:01. | :05:10. | |
the new Conservative Government. Jeremy Corbyn's position? Let me | :05:11. | :05:22. | |
give you a couple of comments. Wendy knows best. | :05:23. | :05:30. | |
Colin says, after the hate, and the lies, I feel deeply | :05:31. | :05:40. | |
was an extraordinary meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party. Wave | :05:41. | :05:56. | |
after wave of Labour MPs and not just the Blairites or the usual | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
suspects. They were not shouting at Jeremy Corbyn, were pleading, | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
appealing to him, saying, do the decent thing for the party. | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
Jeremy Corbyn and his allies say he will not go. They call it a corridor | :06:11. | :06:29. | |
coup. He will overwhelmingly lose the confidence vote, the men in grey | :06:30. | :06:34. | |
suits will say, you've got to go. I expect he will continue to say he | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
will not go. It will lead to put up a candidate. They are now agreeing a | :06:39. | :06:47. | |
name to put up against Jeremy Corbyn. My expectation is it will | :06:48. | :06:55. | |
probably be Angela Eagle, you will then have a head-to-head between | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
Jeremy Corbyn and Angela Eagle. Jeremy Corbyn's people are confident | :06:59. | :07:06. | |
they can win. His critics say, things are changing. Ordinary party | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
members are fed up and they think they have a chance of toppling him. | :07:10. | :07:20. | |
We are going to dip into that emergency meeting. They are just | :07:21. | :07:37. | |
taking their seats. This is the first time members of the European | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
Parliament have got together to give their verdict on the | :07:41. | :07:43. | |
We're going to do drop into the session. | :07:44. | :07:59. | |
England have crashed out of Euro 2016 with a humiliating 2-1 | :08:00. | :08:10. | |
Iceland, with a population of just 330,000, were among | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
the lowest-ranked teams in the football tournament. | :08:15. | :08:15. | |
Within minutes of the final whistle, England manager Roy Hodgson | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
announced his resignation, saying he was sorry his time | :08:19. | :08:20. | |
England have experienced some embarrassing lows, | :08:21. | :08:32. | |
but last night will leave lifelong scars on the players who will now | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
wait and see which man takes on the most toxic of tasks | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
Roy Hodgson walked before he was pushed last night. | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
I'm sorry it had to end this way, with another exit | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
But these things happen and all I can do is wish everybody | :08:45. | :08:52. | |
all the very best and hope that you will still be able to see | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
an England team in a final of a major tournament fairly soon. | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
England couldn't have started any better. | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
Wayne Rooney scoring his 53rd goal in his 115th appearance, | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
equalling David Beckham's record for an outfield player. | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
How much longer his service is required will be up | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
10% of Iceland's population have followed them around France for far | :09:17. | :09:33. | |
longer than they could have imagined. | :09:34. | :09:34. | |
Their second score squirmed over the line in just under 20 minutes. | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
England could only squirm in embarrassment. | :09:40. | :09:40. | |
It cost us a fortune and then a performance like that. | :09:41. | :09:57. | |
All the way to France to watch the game and nothing. | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
The fans were all too familiar with the sinking feeling. | :10:03. | :10:11. | |
Years of hope, storms, and then one last journey | :10:12. | :10:13. | |
at the front of a bus from a foreign field. | :10:14. | :10:21. | |
And we'll be hearing from fans, and looking at who could be | :10:22. | :10:24. | |
the next England manager, later in the programme. | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
An extradition hearing begins today to decide | :10:28. | :10:28. | |
whether a man from Suffolk, who is accused of hacking | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
into several federal computer systems in America, | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
Lowry Love, who's been diagnosed with Asperger's and depression, | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
is accused of stealing massive quantities of data from Nasa and US | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
Here's our Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford. | :10:44. | :10:57. | |
Let's take you live to the European Parliament, David Cameron will be | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
meeting European leaders for the first time since | :11:03. | :11:04. | |
Britain voted to leave. Yellow mac I'd like to welcome the commission | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
president with his members of the commission. | :11:12. | :11:22. | |
in the parliament we turn to a topic that moves us very deeply. | :11:23. | :11:35. | |
Because, contrary to the comments we hear from some decision-makers, the | :11:36. | :11:43. | |
decision has been taken in the UK, and it is one that affects all | :11:44. | :11:53. | |
citizens of the European Union, it is obviously | :11:54. | :11:56. | |
clear that the representatives of the European people meet to discuss | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
this case. At the start of this debate I'd like | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
to say one thing. Over the course of four decades, many | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
politicians, many officials from the United Kingdom have | :12:12. | :12:16. | |
Union's institutions. I know many of them, I've worked with many of them, | :12:17. | :12:29. | |
I have worked together with many of them to construct | :12:30. | :12:32. | |
I think all those colleagues from the United Kingdom in this house and | :12:33. | :12:44. | |
the many hundreds of women and men who work in committees and | :12:45. | :12:55. | |
administration of this house, if we say to them that we regret | :12:56. | :12:57. | |
decision that the UK will leave us, but you who have worked with us | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
throughout these years, we are linked with you as we are linked | :13:04. | :13:21. | |
with humanity. APPLAUSE. Let's be clear, ladies and gentlemen, the | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
value of the United Kingdom in foreign policy of the EU but also | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
defending freedom is is of major significance. However, the will of | :13:31. | :13:32. | |
the majority of citizens of the United Kingdom must | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
be done. It has to be respected and that is why we will be looking today | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
intensively at the issue of Article 50 and it's triggering. | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
Maybe I can express a vote of thanks to somebody in this room who has | :13:52. | :14:01. | |
found himself in a very difficult situation but has done excellent | :14:02. | :14:08. | |
work and taken a great step in the course of humanity. Lord Hill has | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
decided to lay down his office as Commissioner of the United Kingdom | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
so this will be the last occasion he is with us. | :14:18. | :14:18. | |
You were involved in the campaign for the UK to Remain in the campaign | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
and on behalf of the European Parliament but also for | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
the work you've done I would like to express our thanks to you. | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
TRANSLATION: Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen for that signal | :14:32. | :15:29. | |
which also makes it very clear the side on which the overwhelming | :15:30. | :15:32. | |
majority of the European people stand on the side of those who would | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
like to keep the UK in the EU. Thank you for that very clear and strong | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
signal. At the same time however, the resignation of Lord Hill sends | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
out another signal, a signal that the withdrawal procedure has begun. | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
It is time we move to the debate, on behalf of the European Council, Mr | :15:56. | :16:05. | |
Tusk was invited to our meeting today and Prime Minister Rutter was | :16:06. | :16:10. | |
also invited, that doesn't reduce our degrade our respect for you who | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
is representing the council. You have the floor madam. | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
Trance Mr President, thank you very much. Honourable members, members of | :16:23. | :16:30. | |
the college. The 23rd June 2016 will go down in history as a day that | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
shook the United Kingdom and the European Union. A majority of the | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
British voters have expressed their wish to leave the EU. Following this | :16:41. | :16:48. | |
result, which we respect, there is deep, deep regret, but there is also | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
a strong resolve to show unity in our response. However, let me | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
underscore the fact that today that I represent the full council, all 28 | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
members of it, until a UK exit is finalised, the UK will be a member | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
of the council with all the rights and obligations that derive from | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
this. Now, the United Kingdom has been a respected member of the | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
European Union since 1973. Working with member states and institutions | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
to build and strengthen a secure, and prosperous Europe. The outcome | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
of the referendum therefore marks a watershed moment in Europe's | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
history. But history and geography cannot be changed. The UK is and | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
will always be, a European nation. We share the same values, we harbour | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
the same hopes, and we will continue to work together. As partners and | :17:48. | :17:55. | |
allies. In other words it will be in the interests of us all to ensure | :17:56. | :18:02. | |
that a future relationship will be constructive and mutely beneficial. | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
Now, let me -- mutually beneficial. Now, let me be absolutely clear, no | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
one will benefit from a prolonged political limbo. The ball is in the | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
British court and we do look forward to hearing from London soon. At the | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
same time, let us also allow the UK the time it needs to recuperate and | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
to take the necessary decisions so we can indeed move forward. In other | :18:30. | :18:36. | |
words, cool heads must now prevail. Mr President, since its creation in | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
1957 the EU has gone a long and successful way. It has reunited | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
eastern and Western Europe and it has brought about the longest period | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
of peace on our Continent in modern times. It has been a driving force | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
to bring and keep the people of Europe together in all its diversity | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
and strength. Never in modern history have we enjoyed so much | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
freedom, so much wealth and so much stability in Europe. Now why did | :19:08. | :19:16. | |
people give their lives in Ukraine carrying a banner with golden stars? | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
Why do people from Africa leave their families in rickety boats to | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
reach our shores? It is because of the fundamental values that bind us? | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
The fundamental freedoms that inspire us and the promise that if | :19:30. | :19:36. | |
do your best you can get ahead and if I cannot, you won't be cast away. | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
Now, these achievements stand and we can be proud to have contributed to | :19:43. | :19:50. | |
them, however, nothing is irvery versable, nothing inevitable, the | :19:51. | :19:53. | |
shock of the referendum should be a wake-up call to us all. Whether we | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
like it or not, the sentiments of a large part of the British voters are | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
shared in many other EU member states. So we will have to do | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
better. We must, intensify our efforts, we do need a more | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
efficient, more effective and most of all, a more convincing European | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
Union. Now, clearly, in this globalised world Europe is facing | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
huge challenges. So yes, we do need an EU that's protecting its borders | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
and controlling migration. An EU that is providing economic | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
opportunities to all citizens and an EU that is keeping threats at bay. | :20:35. | :20:43. | |
We need an EU that is not seen as a threat to national identity, but as | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
an extension of our identities. An EU that's not seen as a bureaucratic | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
meddler, but as a facilitator. Now, the inconvenient truth is that | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
neither Europe as a whole, nor any single nation can isolate itself | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
from a world in turmoil and we must cope with this turmoil together as | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
best as we can or else the zone of peace and stability that we have | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
built up over decades might disintegrate and we would have no | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
one to blame but ourselves. Mr President, we need unity because | :21:20. | :21:24. | |
geopolitical tension and the conflict surrounding Europe will | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
continue and possibly multiply. We need unity because terrorists will | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
not hesitate to strike at us again. We need unity to control the huge | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
flows of migrants that will continue to move forward, to move towards | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
this Continent. And let me be clear once more, no country on the face of | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
the Earth can meet these challenges alone. These challenges are simply | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
too complex. They also tend to ignore borders. And true, part of | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
the challenge lies in the domestic realm, convincing European citizens | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
that unity remains the best choice, but fancy words, conclusions, and | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
declarations will not be enough, we have to act. The fact that | :22:10. | :22:15. | |
fragmentation is no longer considered unthinkable should | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
gravely concern us all. And propel us into action. There is no reason | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
to be fatalistic because together we are strong. Together we are the | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
world's strongest advocates for the values we cherish, rule of law, | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
freedom, democracy, and market based economy. But it would be foolish to | :22:35. | :22:41. | |
under estimate the challenge at hand. Mr President, the outcome of | :22:42. | :22:48. | |
the referendum has left us with an unprecedented situation. Many within | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
the UK and other member states feel uncertain about the consequences. It | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
is in the interest of all, to have clarity about the way ahead soon. At | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
the same time, it is important to recall that we have the rules to | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
deal with the situation in an orderly way. As we all know Article | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
50 of the treaty sets out a procedure to be followed if a member | :23:12. | :23:14. | |
state decides to leave the European Union. Now, the EU stands ready to | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
launch negotiations swiftly, but it is up to the UK Government and no | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
one else, to trigger Article 50. And negotiations can only start after | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
such a notification has taken place. Meanwhile, we have some work to do. | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
Clearly, the outcome of the UK referendum does not mean that the | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
threats and challenges we commonly face have suddenly disappeared. | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
Neither does it mean that each nation will be better off acting on | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
its own rather than part as a collective on the contrary I would | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
say. Now, if the UK, if the UK decides to leave indeed, the Union | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
of 27 member states will continue. Together we can and will address our | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
common challenge to generate growth, to increase prosperity, and to | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
ensure a safe and secure environment for our citizens. This is, what | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
European citizens expect from us and rightfully so. Now, while | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
institutional debates on treaty conventions are a paradise to | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
lawyers and diplomats, they are a hell for citizens. So we simply need | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
to grit our teeth, roll up our sleeves and use all the tools and | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
means we have and true, it will not always be easy to agree on what we | :24:36. | :24:41. | |
should do. It is no doubt challenging to make co-operation | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
work, but we have to forge ahead. For the failure to do so jeopardises | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
prosperity and the well-being and that Mr President, would be | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
reckless. In closing, the European Council will meet in a few hours. | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
You understand that I cannot prejudge the discussions in the | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
council, in other words I cannot go into greater detail on the next | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
steps. However, I will listen carefully to your debate. You | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
yourself president will be able to address the members of the council | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
this afternoon when you meet them and to convey the substance of the | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
debate and of the resolution you will adopt later this morning. Thank | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
you so much. APPLAUSE | :25:29. | :25:38. | |
TRANSLATION: On behalf of the commission, president Juncker. | :25:39. | :25:50. | |
TRANSLATION: Mr President, Madam President, honourable members, your | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
Parliament is getting ready to discuss the future of Europe and the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
place of the United Kingdom in Europe or near the European Union. A | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
lot of meetings scheduled for this morning, but I decided to come to | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
the European Parliament. I think my place today is here. | :26:10. | :26:11. | |
APPLAUSE At the heart of the European | :26:12. | :26:20. | |
democracy. APPLAUSE | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
TRANSLATION: Our British friends have expressed a view by universal | :26:26. | :26:31. | |
suffrage and obviously the majority view of the British people demands | :26:32. | :26:37. | |
respect. Democracy is democracy and we must respect it. We must respect | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
British democracy and the way it has voiced its view. | :26:43. | :26:53. | |
That's the last time you're applauding here. | :26:54. | :27:07. | |
APPLAUSE TRANSLATION: And to some extent I'm | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
really surprised that you are here! You were fighting for the exit, the | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
British people voted in favour of the exit. Why are you here? | :27:18. | :27:30. | |
APPLAUSE TRANSLATION: So universal suffrage | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
has been exercised in the United Kingdom and we must respect the | :27:35. | :27:41. | |
outcome. Now, I don't dare say I'm a friend of democracy because it means | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
I need to somehow prove it, but at the end of the day, what we've got | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
to do is respect the will of the British people. Now, they've | :27:49. | :27:53. | |
expressed their view, now they have there have got to be consequences. | :27:54. | :27:56. | |
Something has to happen. First of all I would ask for some | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
clarification, not necessarily immediately because the British | :28:01. | :28:03. | |
system is far more complicated than we think, there is a vote, now there | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
is hesitation, Lord Hill, my friend and brother is a real democrat. And | :28:10. | :28:19. | |
I would like others to also draw conclusions from the vote in the | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
United Kingdom. I've heard, I've read, that the President of | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
Parliament, that the president of the Parliamentary groups with some | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
exceptions have reacted in somewhat emotional fashion to the results of | :28:37. | :28:44. | |
the British vote. Yes. Europe isn't exclusively a cerebral affair. | :28:45. | :28:50. | |
Obviously we've got to think, but equally when you're sad, it's | :28:51. | :28:54. | |
acceptable to be sad and I am sad after this vote in the UK. And I | :28:55. | :28:59. | |
make no secret of it. APPLAUSE | :29:00. | :29:12. | |
TRANSLATION: How can I put this? It is not morningishness, it is a | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
professional conviction, I really would have liked the United Kingdom | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
to remain by our side with us, but a decision was different and we must, | :29:23. | :29:28. | |
of course, draw the conclusions. I would call on the Government of the | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
United Kingdom and I will be speaking to the Prime Minister later | :29:33. | :29:37. | |
this morning who is still a friend because despite the vote, the | :29:38. | :29:42. | |
British remain our friends in any event I shall ask the Prime Minister | :29:43. | :29:46. | |
to clarify the situation as soon as possible. We cannot be embroiled in | :29:47. | :29:55. | |
lasting uncertainty. So if I say I'm sad, now, of course, | :29:56. | :30:05. | |
emotions aren't too important, political love, but I'm saying sad, | :30:06. | :30:11. | |
because I'm not a robot. I'm not a grey bureaucrat or technocrat. | :30:12. | :30:37. | |
We had a democratic process which led to a result we do not like. I am | :30:38. | :30:41. | |
not a robot, I am not a machine. I'm the European and I have the right to | :30:42. | :30:49. | |
say I regret the result of the British vote. I would like the | :30:50. | :31:03. | |
United Kingdom to clarify its position today or tomorrow, we | :31:04. | :31:12. | |
cannot allow a prolonged period of uncertainty. Contrary to others, I | :31:13. | :31:17. | |
am not a slave to the financial markets but I do watch what they do. | :31:18. | :31:31. | |
I think what we are seeing is global and shows what is happening. I would | :31:32. | :31:37. | |
like the United Kingdom to clarify its position. I would like the idea | :31:38. | :31:51. | |
to become common currency. Negotiations between the | :31:52. | :32:03. | |
governments. I have placed a ban on commissioners engaging in | :32:04. | :32:07. | |
discussions with the British Government, regardless of whether it | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
was leave Remain. I don't like doing this. They can have no preliminary | :32:12. | :32:18. | |
discussions, no notification, no negotiation. | :32:19. | :32:30. | |
We lost, as a result of the British vote, something very important. They | :32:31. | :32:46. | |
are the founding fathers who do not have any more rights than other | :32:47. | :32:50. | |
states, they are not the only country behind the project, new | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
member states are fully fledged member states and once again I | :32:55. | :33:02. | |
welcome and celebrate the reunification of Europe. Welcome, | :33:03. | :33:16. | |
new member states. The British vote has cut off one of our wings but we | :33:17. | :33:22. | |
are still flying. Our flight towards the future continues. These new | :33:23. | :33:32. | |
Horizons are important for Europe and our planet. Those who look at us | :33:33. | :33:41. | |
from afar are concerned. I've heard other world leaders who are very | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
concerned because they are worried about the path the European Union | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
will head down. We need to assure Europeans and those that look at us | :33:52. | :33:58. | |
from outside, from further away. Our flight continues, towards a clear | :33:59. | :34:07. | |
objective, a predetermined objective. Our journey continues, | :34:08. | :34:19. | |
and though we've slowed down a bit, we must progress to achieve our | :34:20. | :34:26. | |
shared objective and we must do so with renewed ambition. Just imagine | :34:27. | :34:33. | |
the European Commission had not come forward with ten priorities. What | :34:34. | :34:44. | |
response would we be giving to our British friends? It would be the | :34:45. | :34:54. | |
commission's programme. Following on from the British vote, are we just | :34:55. | :35:02. | |
going to put two stone and not continue with the effort to put an | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
end to flourishing democracy? We will keep fighting against what | :35:10. | :35:21. | |
British people call red tape. We said social Europe is going to find | :35:22. | :35:33. | |
its place. We've launched a broad range. Do you want the British vote | :35:34. | :35:47. | |
to stop this? We must become more social. As a college we have put an | :35:48. | :36:01. | |
end to this blind unilateralism, which was that there would be no | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
solutions to the economic crisis. We've injected flexibility into a | :36:08. | :36:13. | |
work in the good sense, we've injected flexibility, the British | :36:14. | :36:22. | |
vote is going back to where it was prior to when they took up office. | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
The stability pact must be ruled out and that is what we will do. We have | :36:28. | :36:41. | |
launched a project on energy. Nobody has said, do you want us to change, | :36:42. | :36:48. | |
put an end this continental shared effort? Are project to secure this. | :36:49. | :36:58. | |
We want to modernise Europe, we said that on many occasions, and that's | :36:59. | :37:03. | |
why we've launched an ambitious project which relates to the digital | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
future of Europe. Everything has got to change. Do we need to change | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
that? The commission will continue to do what it promised to do with | :37:15. | :37:24. | |
Parliament's agreement. Everybody is saying everything is going to | :37:25. | :37:25. | |
change. We will continue down the path we | :37:26. | :37:52. | |
started down in November 20 14. Let's leave the European Parliament | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
there. They come up with the laws for the European Parliament to vote | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
on. He says we must accept British democracy but he is clearly a sad | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
man. He was genuinely upset. He said, I'm not a great technocrat or | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
a bureaucrat, I'm genuinely sad that our friends in Britain are leaving. | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
It is like one of our wings have been cut off. But he said they will | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
press ahead, they will not down tools. The other thing which is | :38:23. | :38:33. | |
significant, we heard from him and Martin Schulz, both stressing they | :38:34. | :38:34. | |
want Britain to get a shift on. The fear is of uncertainty across | :38:35. | :38:52. | |
Europe. Why that matters, we are going in slow motion. We heard from | :38:53. | :39:03. | |
Jeremy Hunt saying, maybe we should put this on hold until the general | :39:04. | :39:10. | |
election, that would be 2020! Angela Merkel addressing the German | :39:11. | :39:13. | |
parliament, very much the same sentiment. She says Europe has got | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
through this crisis before but Britain has got to get a move on. | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
When David Cameron speaks at dinner they will be banging the table and | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
saying, you've got to get on with it, you cannot hang around. When Mac | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
full coverage of that debate on BBC Parliament. MPs on the verge of | :39:32. | :39:40. | |
tears, others pleading with the leader to stand down. | :39:41. | :39:44. | |
just some of the reports of what happened inside | :39:45. | :39:47. | |
an extraordinary meeting between Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn | :39:48. | :39:48. | |
and his MPs and this morning the front of the Labour-supporting | :39:49. | :39:51. | |
Daily Mirror simply tells Jeremy Corbyn to "go now". | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
Let's talk to Dame Margaret Hodge who was inside the meeting - | :39:55. | :39:56. | |
she's tabled a motion of no confidence in her leader. | :39:57. | :40:03. | |
Give the audience an insight into who said what. I've been a member of | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
Parliament for over 20 years and it was extraordinary. The room was | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
packed full of members of Parliament and peers as well. Emotions were | :40:18. | :40:24. | |
running high. The unanimity of everybody, all the backbenchers who | :40:25. | :40:32. | |
spoke, angrily or with pleading, asking Jeremy to do the decent thing | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
and decide to go. What were people saying? Why have we got to this | :40:38. | :40:44. | |
point? The big test of Jeremy's leadership has been the EU | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
referendum. He was slow to get off the mark, it now emerges, Alan | :40:48. | :40:58. | |
Johnson was one the people at the meeting, he accused them of not | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
working with him, he refused to come to the weekly meetings and then he | :41:03. | :41:12. | |
put out material that actually contradicted the Remain campaign. He | :41:13. | :41:21. | |
contributed to the failure of the Remain campaign because he gave out | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
mixed messages. Do you think Jeremy Corbyn actually voted Remain? I | :41:27. | :41:42. | |
don't know. This is the biggest crisis in living memory. This is the | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
time when the country leads strong leadership and the Labour Party | :41:48. | :41:49. | |
needs strong and effective leadership. They will put forward an | :41:50. | :42:05. | |
alternative. Jeremy has not shown that strength of leadership and we | :42:06. | :42:14. | |
could have a general election upon us and we need to have a convincing | :42:15. | :42:27. | |
alternative for people of Britain. Party members say people like you, | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
who tabled this motion of no confidence, either traitor. When I | :42:33. | :42:45. | |
got home last Friday, I expected lots of abuse, but I had hundreds of | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
e-mails from supporters supporting the action we had taken. The very | :42:51. | :43:01. | |
young people who joined Labour, supporting Jeremy Corbyn because | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
they thought he would bring a vision and strength to the Labour Party, | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
are the most angry about the outcome of the referendum. What the Labour | :43:12. | :43:18. | |
Party is about is the many, not the few. There were 9.3 now you people | :43:19. | :43:26. | |
who voted Labour and there are many more you need to attract. We need to | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
look at the greater good of those Labour voters and supporters. If | :43:32. | :43:40. | |
there is a vote today and you win the vote, at the end of the day we | :43:41. | :43:49. | |
could know the outcome before 6pm. He could say, I am staying where I | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
am, that has been his stance right through the weekend. Absolutely | :43:54. | :44:00. | |
adamant he is staying as Labour Leader. I don't want to pre-empt the | :44:01. | :44:09. | |
vote. One step at a time. I think his position is completely | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
untenable. The strength of feeling in the room was overpowering. Even | :44:13. | :44:21. | |
after that, he said he was staying. I don't think he can find a | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
sufficient number of people who are staying with him. Doesn't seem to | :44:27. | :44:31. | |
bother him. Tell me what will happen after that. I think Jeremy Hunt | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
basically a decent man, I've known him for 35 years, this | :44:36. | :44:38. | |
is not a personal dispute with an individual I don't like. I like him. | :44:39. | :44:47. | |
The mood is so overwhelming I think he cannot ignore it. If he does not | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
we will need to think again. Let's talk about what that means. Go with | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
me on this. Who is the name the Parliamentary Labour Party would | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
unite behind who could challenge him in a leadership contest and who | :45:03. | :45:09. | |
would beat him? Who is that person? There are really so many new, | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
talented, energetic, committed, excellent people. They could all | :45:16. | :45:23. | |
fulfil that role. I've not got any body and mind. One of the reasons I | :45:24. | :45:31. | |
think it is important is we go for a change of leader, not just because | :45:32. | :45:39. | |
of the general election but also I know there is a great cohort of | :45:40. | :45:46. | |
talented individuals. People are talking about Angela Eagle. You'll | :45:47. | :45:49. | |
actually is one and there are others. This is not the day and the | :45:50. | :45:51. | |
time. This is the day for MPs to take a | :45:52. | :46:01. | |
serious decision how to vote and we have got to see how the vote turns | :46:02. | :46:05. | |
out. I plead with Jeremy as others did last night to listen to the | :46:06. | :46:08. | |
voices that are now against him. It is not just one wing of the party, | :46:09. | :46:14. | |
it is not just a few individuals, it is the mass of the Parliamentary | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
Labour Party and a growing number of Labour Party members and supporters | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
who just think he can't hack it as leader. We need a strong, effective | :46:24. | :46:28. | |
leader to defend the country, to act as a clear opposition and to prepare | :46:29. | :46:31. | |
for an alternative Government. Are you in touch with Labour supporters | :46:32. | :46:37. | |
or ex-Labour supporters who voted to Leave the European Union? Actually | :46:38. | :46:44. | |
when they write to me, they don't make that clear. They would focus, | :46:45. | :46:49. | |
they focus... So not really? They don't muddle the two issues. They | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
don't talk about, one or two, you know, actually that's not fair. | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
Quite a lot of the e-mails talk about how disappointed they are in | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
the leadership. Or the failure of leadership in relation to the | :47:01. | :47:04. | |
referendum. That's why they're supporting our motion of no | :47:05. | :47:07. | |
confidence. But on the other hand, have I got people who have said they | :47:08. | :47:14. | |
want, they voted to Leave, I haven't picked that up if I'm honest. There | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
are a lot of Labour supporters or... Oh generally? Across the north of | :47:20. | :47:26. | |
England? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. In parts of Essex and East London? Do I know | :47:27. | :47:31. | |
Labour voters? Are you in touch with them? What are they saying to you? | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
Of course. Well, my own constituency, two out of three, | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
voted for Brexit. And my constituency is an area which has | :47:42. | :47:47. | |
been really impacted by immigration. It has transformed from a white | :47:48. | :47:51. | |
working class area into a mixed community that mirrors the whole of | :47:52. | :47:54. | |
London and people find that change difficult. Especially when they are | :47:55. | :47:59. | |
looking for a house or looking for a well paid job, so I understand that. | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
John McDonnell has just been outside his house. He has been asked | :48:04. | :48:07. | |
questions by various media people. Let's listen. | :48:08. | :48:10. | |
REPORTER: Do you think it is time for Mr Corbyn to resign? Of course | :48:11. | :48:16. | |
not. Nine months ago he got the largest mandate. Certainly not. Do | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
you think he is failing to connect with the people of the United | :48:21. | :48:22. | |
Kingdom not just the Labour supporters? What's interesting, I | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
thinned this really curious because a the Parliamentary Labour Party | :48:27. | :48:29. | |
meeting last night, MPs were saying, you haven't got the support of the | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
people. Yet at the beginning of that meeting we clapped in a by-election | :48:33. | :48:40. | |
candidate who doubled her majority under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. We | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
won every mayoral election and we put ten points on the polls. He is | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
doing extremely well, however some members of the party get worried | :48:49. | :48:51. | |
about the general election and we need to reassure them. Do you think | :48:52. | :48:57. | |
he was lacklustre in his attempts to get people to vote Remain? We had to | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
appeal to our supporters about the EU so we wanted to remain, but there | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
needs to be reform and that reflected what Labour supporters, | :49:06. | :49:10. | |
unfortunately, we didn't win. But the bulk of Labour supporters voted | :49:11. | :49:18. | |
to remain. Young people four to one voted to Remain. John McDonnell who | :49:19. | :49:21. | |
is Jeremy Corbyn's right-hand man. There is no sign of any movement | :49:22. | :49:25. | |
from the top of the Labour Party. Let's see how the vote goes. I was | :49:26. | :49:31. | |
overwhelmed by the number of people in the room and by the unity of | :49:32. | :49:36. | |
purpose of those people in the room. Last night at the meeting? Last | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
night at the meeting, we have to see how the vote goes. I'm sorry the one | :49:41. | :49:45. | |
thing watching John McDonnell on that clip, the one thing that people | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
are so angry about, reason all this has come together, is that people | :49:51. | :49:56. | |
are so furious at the lack of leadership and the wrong leadership | :49:57. | :50:00. | |
we had on the Leave campaign for the EU referendum. From Jeremy Corbyn | :50:01. | :50:06. | |
and his team. The fact that al-Johnan Johnson was able to say at | :50:07. | :50:09. | |
the party meeting last night, "You refuse to talk to me. You | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
deliberately undermined my messages." That's unforgivable in | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
what has become the most important decision for the lives of us, our | :50:19. | :50:21. | |
children and our grandchildren. Thank you very much for your time | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
this morning. And your patience as well. Thank you, I appreciate it. | :50:25. | :50:32. | |
Will Boris Johnson be too divisive in the wake of the referendum? We | :50:33. | :50:40. | |
will discuss that after 10am. Roy Hodgson is out of a job and | :50:41. | :50:44. | |
England sent packing in disgrace again from a big football | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
tournament. The Times newspaper has given every single England player a | :50:50. | :50:52. | |
zero rating and some of you suggested on my Twitter timeline | :50:53. | :50:57. | |
that's too generous! England lost in the knock-out round, the last 16 | :50:58. | :51:01. | |
stage of the European Championships. 2-1 to Iceland who were let's be | :51:02. | :51:06. | |
honest, magnificent. Here is how the night unfolded. | :51:07. | :51:16. | |
Only Wayne Rooney and Joe Hart of this England team walked out for a | :51:17. | :51:21. | |
knock-out match. Through to Sturridge. Sterling is he brought | :51:22. | :51:28. | |
down? The referee says... And Rooney scores! That's exactly what's going | :51:29. | :51:36. | |
to happen. And it helped across goal and Iceland are level! | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
Yes! Yes! There it is. | :51:42. | :52:05. | |
And England's embarrassment is Iceland's ecstasy! | :52:06. | :52:37. | |
The result can't lie. We had 95 minutes to put right. We're going to | :52:38. | :52:45. | |
have to take some responsibility and myself personality, I'm going to | :52:46. | :52:48. | |
have to take responsibility. I should be saving two goals that | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
happened in this tournament. So... We are gutted. We felt we let a | :52:53. | :52:56. | |
chance slip tonightment we believe we could win the game and we | :52:57. | :53:00. | |
haven't. My contract was always up after the Euros. So now is the time | :53:01. | :53:05. | |
for someone else to oversee the progress of this young, hungry and | :53:06. | :53:11. | |
extremely talented group of players. Where do we start with England in | :53:12. | :53:17. | |
this debacle? Well, that was the worst performance I have seen from | :53:18. | :53:20. | |
an England team, ever from start to finish in the game. We were | :53:21. | :53:25. | |
outfought and we were outthought and we were outbattled and we were | :53:26. | :53:30. | |
totally hopeless for 90 minutes. Let's talk to some England fans and | :53:31. | :53:36. | |
some Iceland fans. We've got Billy, Marc and Jimmy and Iceland fans | :53:37. | :53:43. | |
Magnus. Welcome all of you. Congratulations to our Iceland fans. | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
I'm going to start with the England fans if you don't mind. Billy, you | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
have seen some pretty disappointing England performances over the years, | :53:52. | :54:00. | |
how bad was this? Yeah, this was, is that the worst? Is that the biggest | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
low? I have to admit that was pretty low. South Africa was bad when we | :54:06. | :54:13. | |
lost to Germany. We have gone out on penalty shoot-outs and we didn't, | :54:14. | :54:17. | |
with this game we didn't rest on our laurels, Iceland are a decent side | :54:18. | :54:20. | |
and the fans went thinking we're going to go there and do the | :54:21. | :54:24. | |
business. The team went out there and they did not try. The most | :54:25. | :54:29. | |
embarrassing thing about it is that Iceland is just a Brighton. Take the | :54:30. | :54:33. | |
town of Brighton and carving it off and saying to everyone, put yourself | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
in that football team, that's how bad it was for us and also their | :54:37. | :54:42. | |
defender, their central defender, plays for Charlton, they got | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
relegated to Division One. We couldn't get past a central defender | :54:46. | :54:49. | |
playing in the same league as my team Brentford. It was so bad. It | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
really was. Let me ask you Marc, how can players that had an amazing | :54:55. | :55:00. | |
Premier League season, Kane, Vardy, be so much more ordinary for the | :55:01. | :55:06. | |
national side? Please explain that to me? Some of them looked tired. I | :55:07. | :55:15. | |
thought cane looked really tired and also they didn't seem to be | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
inspired. There was no creativity. It was like the Slovakia game. There | :55:21. | :55:24. | |
didn't seem to be enough thought and ways of moving forward. It was | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
really sad to watch and I agree with the last bloke, the South Africa | :55:29. | :55:33. | |
game, the game in South Africa against Algeria is equally as bad, | :55:34. | :55:40. | |
but that was bad. Embarrassing to watch. Jimmy, what words would you | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
use to describe England's performance? They were beaten by the | :55:45. | :55:53. | |
better side. PROBLEM WITH SOUND | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
I can hardly hear you. I'm sorry, I did get the word, "Frustrating." | :55:58. | :56:03. | |
While we sort that out, I'm going to hear from the Iceland fans. | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
Congratulation, you were magnificent? Thank you very much. | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
You should give us credit because it is disappointment for England, but | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
it is a great moment in Iceland's sporting history. How did you do it? | :56:16. | :56:24. | |
The team spirit, work ratio and just togetherness in the squad. That was | :56:25. | :56:33. | |
the key behind this victory. That, I think, in this tournament was | :56:34. | :56:37. | |
Iceland's easiest game. Is that fair enough? Are you still with us? I can | :56:38. | :56:47. | |
see you in your blue top somewhere. Hello, can you hear me? Yeah, I can | :56:48. | :56:52. | |
hear you. Can you hear me? Was that Iceland's easiest game in this | :56:53. | :56:55. | |
tournament? I wouldn't say that because the game was tough and | :56:56. | :56:59. | |
England played well. I wouldn't say they were embarrassed, they did | :57:00. | :57:02. | |
their best. We were simply better. We don't have any stars in our team | :57:03. | :57:07. | |
pt no big stars. We simply have 11 or we have a group of 23 great | :57:08. | :57:12. | |
football players. We played as a team. And we made it. And I think | :57:13. | :57:19. | |
the England team was under huge pressure from the UK media and from | :57:20. | :57:25. | |
the public while Icelandic team only had supporters and it was amazing to | :57:26. | :57:30. | |
be at this stadium with 36,000 people, only 3,000 people were | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
there, still you could only hear Icelandic voices there. The England | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
fans were using their investment in their seats quite well sitting all | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
the time, watching the game while the Icelandic fans, they were just | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
having fun and enjoying the game and supporting their team. But England | :57:50. | :57:55. | |
did know about the long throw of your captain, but still couldn't | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
handle it? Yeah. LAUGHTER | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
Don't laugh. It is really painful! I don't understand how he can do this. | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
I guess he is a Viking like the rest of us so we are used to throwing big | :58:08. | :58:13. | |
stones and axes over the fields and that's one of his strengths, yes. | :58:14. | :58:22. | |
OK. I was going to ask you if you would recreate the Iceland roar. | :58:23. | :58:27. | |
We've lost Magnus now. The fantastic celebration that we have been | :58:28. | :58:35. | |
seeing. Where does that come from? Blimey, we're losing all of them. | :58:36. | :58:39. | |
Maybe I should ask the England fans, Billy, Marc and Jimmy to do the | :58:40. | :58:44. | |
Iceland sell braugsz, the slow clap and the roar, how would you describe | :58:45. | :58:48. | |
it Billy, what's it like when you're in the stadium hearing that? | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
Is that me? Yeah. Sorry, about that, yes. The sound is cutting off. We | :58:53. | :58:59. | |
thought the Finnish fans were brilliant, a lot of England fans | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
stayed behind and they clapped the Finnish fans because they thought | :59:04. | :59:07. | |
the Icelandic players because the team was fantastic. The fans were | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
fantastic and they showed the passion and we talked about this as | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
well, because we think that there is just talking in the broader sense, | :59:16. | :59:19. | |
part of the reason why we lost, they talked about tiredness and all that, | :59:20. | :59:22. | |
that's nonsense. There is an arrogance that runs through England. | :59:23. | :59:26. | |
I have been to 12 tournaments, listen I follow the team through | :59:27. | :59:30. | |
thick and thin. There is an arrogance that runs through the team | :59:31. | :59:33. | |
because they think we are England, we can turn up and we will do what | :59:34. | :59:37. | |
we want, it doesn't matter what we do, we will win. You know what | :59:38. | :59:44. | |
Billy, I don't think somebody like Eric Dyer comes across as arrogant? | :59:45. | :59:48. | |
I think there is an attitude within in there and the manager, the | :59:49. | :59:53. | |
manager, Roy Hodgson going on, there was an arrogance in the way he chose | :59:54. | :59:57. | |
the team. So what's happened is that, you get somebody like Iceland, | :59:58. | :00:01. | |
what they do is they give. They look at it and they think, "Listen, we | :00:02. | :00:07. | |
know we can try if we pull together. If we pull together with our | :00:08. | :00:10. | |
Division One players and everybody else and we will play really good | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
football." I want to ask from Jimmy and Marc and Billy, who do you want | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
to succeed Roy Hodgson. Give me one name. | :00:19. | :00:26. | |
The Tottenham manager, bring him in. He knows how to deal with players. | :00:27. | :00:35. | |
Thank you very much and In the next hour, more reaction to | :00:36. | :00:45. | |
England getting knocked out of the Euros and we will | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
at the contenders for the next manager. Some people have mentioned | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
Arsene Wenger and lots of mentioned Gareth Southgate. Here is the | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
weather. Cast your mind back 40 years to the | :00:57. | :00:59. | |
summer of 76. 40 years ago today, we broke the temperature | :01:00. | :01:13. | |
record. Today, some of us will struggle to get higher than 16 | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
Celsius. There is a lot of rain dialling in of the Atlantic. It has | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
been a dry and bright start. It is turning cloudy and dab in the West. | :01:26. | :01:29. | |
That process will continue as we go towards lunchtime. The rain is | :01:30. | :01:35. | |
spreading eastwards. Northern Ireland and Scotland will not see | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
persistent rain but some showers and limited brightness. It might break | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
up later on across the far south-west. For most of us it will | :01:43. | :01:47. | |
be damp and cold. For Wimbledon, it is OK but the cloud will thicken | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
eventually. The roof will be needed. Plenty more rain in the Outlook. | :01:55. | :02:04. | |
Good morning. Welcome to the programme. | :02:05. | :02:07. | |
An emergency session of the European parliament - | :02:08. | :02:08. | |
We cannot be embroiled in last thing uncertainty. We will drop in to more | :02:09. | :02:31. | |
of those speeches live, particularly when Nigel Farage of Ukip speaks. | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
Who are the runners and riders in the race | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
for the Tory leadership - and the keys to Number Ten. | :02:37. | :02:38. | |
And could Remainer Theresa May have a chance? | :02:39. | :02:47. | |
- have turned around! My contract was always up to now is the time for | :02:48. | :02:59. | |
someone else to oversee this extremely | :03:00. | :03:00. | |
talented group. What can stop the rot that leaves | :03:01. | :03:07. | |
England football fans feel Good morning. Here is Joanna in the | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
newsroom. MEPs sitting in emergency sessions in the European | :03:14. | :03:31. | |
Parliament have said the vote for temp to what is | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
one of the worst... Nigel Farage is expected to | :03:35. | :03:42. | |
speak shortly. John Claude Yunker has spoke of his | :03:43. | :03:53. | |
regret but says the UK needs to swiftly clarify their position. We | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
cannot be embroiled in last thing uncertainty. I am sad. Emotions are | :04:00. | :04:10. | |
not too important in political life but I'm sad because I'm not a robot. | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
I'm not a grey bureaucrats or technocrat. | :04:17. | :04:28. | |
MPs were told there would be no special privileges. They would need | :04:29. | :04:37. | |
to accept the free movement of people if they wanted access to the | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
single market. The commission should not talk to British officials, in or | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
out, there should be no prior negotiations with British | :04:49. | :04:49. | |
representatives. We have, through the British | :04:50. | :05:04. | |
referendum, lost so many other have launched a project but | :05:05. | :05:13. | |
they have to carry on the project. Prime Minister will meet in Brussels | :05:14. | :05:27. | |
at first talks since the result. Cameron will use a dinner to explain | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
the decision to leave. He is expected to urge a positive attitude | :05:33. | :05:43. | |
to negotiations though he will not be involved in them. | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
Chancellor George Osborne says he will not seek to replace | :05:48. | :05:49. | |
David Cameron as Conservative leader and Prime Minister. | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
The Chancellor said he wouldn't be able to unite | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
the party because he'd campaigned passionately for Britain | :05:57. | :05:58. | |
The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is considering putting | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
huge decision which will have an impact not just for the next five | :06:02. | :06:09. | |
years but the next 75 years. The terms of our trade is unbelievably | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
important in terms of jobs, opportunities and young people, for | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
many generations. And I do think that people should have the chance | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
to have their say on those terms. It could be a referendum, my preference | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
would be as part of the Conservative manifesto. People need to have their | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
say. Labour MPs will vote | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
today on a motion of no confidence in their leader, | :06:38. | :06:39. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Mr Corbyn's aides insist that he has | :06:40. | :06:41. | |
no intention of stepping down. Thousands of people turned out | :06:42. | :06:44. | |
in Parliament Square last Thanks for your messages about the | :06:45. | :07:07. | |
England team. This person said, it is time the FA resigned, they have | :07:08. | :07:10. | |
delivered failure for the last 50 years. England manager and team a | :07:11. | :07:18. | |
shambles. Big changes needed. Bring in a young manager like Eddie Howe | :07:19. | :07:25. | |
or Michael O'Neill. Would you go for an England manager or a foreign | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
manager? I don't think it matters, I think we just need a good manager. | :07:33. | :07:36. | |
It is interesting hearing all the names up for consideration. | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
I was interested to hear Arsene Wenger. I would love to see what he | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
would do. I would love to see how he would take | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
the team. suggesting him, it is whether the FA | :07:49. | :08:00. | |
would have the courage to ask him and whether he would want one of the | :08:01. | :08:01. | |
worst jobs in football. Exactly. It is a shame because the | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
managerial Jose Mourinho has gone to Manchester | :08:06. | :08:21. | |
United, so England will struggle to find the calibre of manager they | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
wanted. Carry on with the reaction. The inquest has begun for the | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
England football team because they are out the European Championship. | :08:36. | :08:43. | |
Roy Hodgson stepped down immediately. Where do they go from | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
here? The city where England suffered the worst defeat, where did | :08:49. | :09:04. | |
it all go wrong? I just heard you nattering away about who the next | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
person should be. That is going to be the debate. | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
The FA said they will discuss their next steps imminently. England are | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
on a bus heading to Nice airport. These are the pictures of them | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
checking out of their hotel. On their way prematurely departing a | :09:21. | :09:28. | |
major tournament yet again. night against Iceland, who were | :09:29. | :09:47. | |
magnificent, it must be said. You mentioned the postmortems. | :09:48. | :09:49. | |
Here are the thoughts of a couple of former England man about where it | :09:50. | :10:02. | |
went wrong. It's a failure, as simple as that. Two | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
Cup and we were out. This Euros, field to beat Slovakia and Russia, | :10:08. | :10:18. | |
just beat Wales. Get beat by Iceland. | :10:19. | :10:20. | |
No disrespect, England should be getting past those teams. No | :10:21. | :10:29. | |
problems. I said throughout the tournament I did not think Roy had | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
his best 11 and did not know his best system. It looked like he was | :10:34. | :10:42. | |
making it up. He brought players into his squad that should not have | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
been there. Jack Wilshere was never fit. He had not completed 90 minutes | :10:46. | :10:54. | |
in over a year. When he's fit, which is rear, he's good player but he was | :10:55. | :11:02. | |
not. It is pretty damning. You will hear similar sentiments. We do know | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
that the FA need to get this right. That golden generation had always | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
fell short over the past decade that included Wayne Rooney. They let the | :11:15. | :11:26. | |
golden generation down. A very young core of players, the average age was | :11:27. | :11:37. | |
25. Next England manager must fit those pieces, some very good | :11:38. | :11:43. | |
players, into a system that actually works and can be competitive. It | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
starts with qualifying for the Russian World Cup. | :11:49. | :12:02. | |
We will keep you up-to-date. Gareth Southgate is leading the way at the | :12:03. | :12:10. | |
moment. Who knows? In a moment we are expecting Nigel Farage to stand | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
up in the European Parliament. They are having an emergency session to | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
debate the UK vote to leave. It is the first time they've got | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
together to give their verdict on the results. He is due to speak any | :12:24. | :12:32. | |
moment now. If you want to watch the whole thing it's on BBC Parliament. | :12:33. | :12:40. | |
By September we'll have a new payments to. Any conservative that | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
wants to put their name in the ring has to do it by Thursday. Jeremy | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
Hunt said he is seriously considering standing and ruled out | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
another referendum. I'm not saying we have a second referendum on | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
whether we Remain in the EU. We are leaving the EU. We must invoke | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
Article 50, the legal mechanism to do that, within this | :13:02. | :13:03. | |
Parliament. When we have negotiated the terms of | :13:04. | :13:11. | |
our departure, this is a huge decision which will have an impact | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
not just five years but the 75 years. The terms | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
of trade with the countries on our doorstep is unbelievably | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
important in terms of the jobs, the opportunities for young people, for | :13:21. | :13:28. | |
many generations. People should have a chance to have their say on those | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
terms. It could be a referendum. My preference would be | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
as part of the Conservative manifesto. | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
I do think people need to have their say on this very important issue. | :13:41. | :13:47. | |
also reported to be considering standing on a joint platform. There | :13:48. | :13:58. | |
are two candidates likely to tower over the others, Boris Johnson | :13:59. | :14:11. | |
and Theresa May. The pair of them are very different characters. | :14:12. | :14:22. | |
The race to become the next Conservative Prime | :14:23. | :14:23. | |
The front runners are Boris Johnson and | :14:24. | :14:26. | |
Boris Johnson - or Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, to use his | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
His father is a former MEP and King George II | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
is his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
Theresa May - or to use her full name, | :14:38. | :14:44. | |
Her father was an Anglican priest and she grew up in a vicarage. | :14:45. | :14:53. | |
She first decided to become a politician aged | :14:54. | :14:55. | |
Boris Johnson was educated at Eton College, one of the country's | :14:56. | :15:03. | |
top boarding schools, and went on to study | :15:04. | :15:05. | |
He was a member of the Bullingdon Club, an | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
elite, all-male dining society known for its alleged bizarre rituals, one | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
of which David Cameron denied last year. | :15:16. | :15:17. | |
That's right - the one involving a pig. | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
Theresa May, on the other hand, went to a mix of grammar | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
and comprehensive schools during her childhood, | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
and went on to study geography, also at Oxford. | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
Boris Johnson has had his fair share of | :15:34. | :15:35. | |
He got fired from his job at the Times newspaper in 1988 for | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
He has had to apologise to the whole of Liverpool | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
over an article he wrote in 2004 for The Spectator magazine. | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
And we certainly intended no insult to the people of Liverpool. | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
And so far as any offence has been taken, I'm | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
In 2004, he was also fired from the role of Shadow | :15:59. | :16:06. | |
Arts Minister over allegations of an affair, | :16:07. | :16:08. | |
Here he is running past reporters trying to avoid questions, | :16:09. | :16:14. | |
Theresa May has kept a much lower profile. | :16:15. | :16:22. | |
In 2002, she came to prominence when referring to claims | :16:23. | :16:24. | |
that the Conservatives were the nasty party of politics. | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
Our base is too narrow, and so occasionally are | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
She faced vocal criticism from the Police Federation in her role as | :16:32. | :16:41. | |
Through 21 years of front-line service I've faced everything, | :16:42. | :16:47. | |
including being attacked, hospitalised, saving lives. | :16:48. | :16:54. | |
I've never had such an attack and a personal kicking as every | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
comment that came out from what you said then. | :16:59. | :17:02. | |
And she wrongly stated in 2011 that an illegal immigrant | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
could not be deported because of his pet cat. | :17:07. | :17:15. | |
Since becoming Mayor of London in 2008, Boris Johnson has been | :17:16. | :17:18. | |
He has been patriotic about table tennis. | :17:19. | :17:24. | |
And I say to the Chinese, and I say to the world, | :17:25. | :17:28. | |
Tripped up a child while playing football. | :17:29. | :17:48. | |
And becomes synonymous with a mode of transport. | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
For Theresa May there is just one quirk the media | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
Her former campaign manager even called her shoes a | :17:56. | :18:04. | |
leopardskin curse, as May is now expected to wear this | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
Boris Johnson's most high profile position came after 2008, when he | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
I and my team will work our socks off to | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
deliver on our vision and our programme from London. | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
More recently he became the figurehead for the | :18:24. | :18:24. | |
And if we vote Leave, and take back control, | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
I believe that this Thursday can be our country's | :18:31. | :18:32. | |
But he has never held a Cabinet position. | :18:33. | :18:43. | |
Many Conservative MPs worry if he has the right | :18:44. | :18:45. | |
personality to carry out complex EU negotiations. | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
He is, however, thought to have his eye | :18:50. | :18:50. | |
Even if he has previously denied this. | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
REPORTER: Would you like to be Prime Minister? | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
Well, I would like to be the lead singer of an international | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
Theresa May supported Remain in the referendum. | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
She kept a low profile during the campaign. | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
I do believe we are more secure in the EU. | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
She is highly respected among Conservative MPs and has been Home | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
Secretary, one of the most difficult positions in government, since 2010. | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
In fact, the longest serving Home Secretary in more | :19:26. | :19:27. | |
She is thought to have the backing of those Conservative MPs | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
A source has told as Liam Fox is going to declare that he is also | :19:33. | :19:54. | |
standing for the Conservative Party leadership, he will do that in the | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
next 24 hours, a source telling us Liam Fox, the former Defence | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
Secretary, former Conservative Defence Secretary, is also throwing | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
his hat into the ring, in the next 24 hours. What do you read into | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
that? Liam Fox will pitch himself as the | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
Brexit candidates but not the divisive one. He has always said it | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
needs to be someone like him who lead the Government, does the | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
negotiations with Brussels. The concern has been figures like Boris | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
Johnson at the forefront of the campaign, are perceived as too | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
divisive, and will not be able to bring the party together. | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
That will be his picture. There are an awful lot of people, seven or | :20:39. | :20:46. | |
eight. Andrea Leadsom, Jeremy Hunt, Jeremy Crabbe, a big field. | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
They need to get their names in by Thursday, noon, the clock is | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
ticking. To repeat that news breaking in the | :20:56. | :21:01. | |
last minute. ASOS telling us that Liam Fox is likely to throw, is | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
going to throw his hat into the ring in the next 24 hours, he would like | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
to be the next British Prime Minister. -- a source. | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
Let's talk to two people who can really give you some more | :21:18. | :21:19. | |
We may need to interrupt and go back to the European Parliament. We are | :21:20. | :21:29. | |
waiting for Nigel Farage to speak. Andrew Gimson has known | :21:30. | :21:31. | |
Boris Johnson since the 1980s and wrote the biography, | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
Boris: The Rise of Boris Johnson. And Lady Catherine Meyer is a friend | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
of Theresa May, who met the Home Secretary during her time | :21:37. | :21:38. | |
working as a charity chief He was leaving Oxford, he wanted to | :21:39. | :21:56. | |
get into journalism. I knew his then girlfriend who asked if her | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
boyfriend could come and see me. I was working for the Spectator | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
magazine. I was probably the most obscure person he should see. He | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
left each of us with a heart inversion that we alone have got him | :22:13. | :22:16. | |
into journalism. Tell us about his relationship with | :22:17. | :22:21. | |
the truth, in terms of his journalistic career. | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
He doesn't see what the story is. He saw that the president, Jack Delors, | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
was grabbing power from the member states, and he dramatised that, | :22:32. | :22:41. | |
rather as a playwright might, and the threat to the great British | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
sausage. You described him as dramatising it, | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
does that mean he tells lies? He tells the truth in an imaginative | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
fashion. Your imaginative fashion is somebody | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
else's lie. The idea that is a knock-down | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
argument not just about Boris but anyone, somehow does not do justice | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
to the richness of human life. Tell us what Theresa May is like as | :23:12. | :23:14. | |
a friend? As a friend, she is wonderful. As | :23:15. | :23:20. | |
our next Prime Minister she would be the best candidate. A pair of safe | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
hands. She is hard-working, she is straight and honest, has attention | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
to detail. Somebody I would personally entrust 100% to take this | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
very confiscated mandate of taking us out of the EU. | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
In terms of her personality, how does it compare to Boris Johnson? | :23:42. | :23:46. | |
I could say it is the exact opposite. | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
She is boring? Not at all. She is quiet. Somebody who is dutiful. As a | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
private person, she is quite different, like any other woman, she | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
likes to talk about clothes, her holidays, she has a wonderful | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
husband. But as a politician, she is somebody | :24:04. | :24:10. | |
first of all that knows Europe very well because she has been to the EU | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
negotiating many times. I can imagine her coming in and saying, | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
this is the deal we want. She could slam her fist on the table and | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
defend our position. You will know part of her reputation | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
is she is remote, cold, distant. Before you respond, let us go back | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
to the European Parliament and here Nigel Farage. | :24:35. | :24:44. | |
Thank you very much for that warm welcome. | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
How things have changed. One second. TRANSLATION: One major | :24:51. | :25:00. | |
quality of democracy is that you listen to those, even if you don't | :25:01. | :25:05. | |
share their opinion. Thank you. Isn't it funny. When I | :25:06. | :25:15. | |
came here 17 years ago and I said I wanted to lead a campaign to get | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
Britain to leave the European Union, you all laughed at me. | :25:20. | :25:25. | |
Well, I had to say, you are not laughing now, are you? The reason | :25:26. | :25:30. | |
you are so upset, the reason you are so angry, has been perfectly clear | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
from all the angry exchanges this morning. You, as a political | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
project, are in denial. You are in denial your currency is failing, you | :25:42. | :25:49. | |
are in denial... Well, just the act the Mediterranean. No, no, no. As a | :25:50. | :25:55. | |
policy to impose party on Greece and the rest of the Mediterranean, you | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
have done very well. And you are in denial over Angela Merkel's called | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
last year for as many people as possible to cross the Mediterranean | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
into the EU, has led to massive divisions between countries and | :26:11. | :26:12. | |
within countries. But the biggest problem you have | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
got, and the reason, the main reason the UK voted the way that it did, is | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
that you have by stealth, by deception, without ever telling the | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
truth to the British all the rest of the peoples of Europe, you have | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
imposed upon them a political union. You have imposed upon them a | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
political union. And when the people in 2005 in the | :26:39. | :26:44. | |
Netherlands and France voted against that political union, when they | :26:45. | :26:47. | |
rejected the constitution, you simply ignore them and brought the | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
Lisbon Treaty in through the back door. | :26:51. | :26:58. | |
APPLAUSE What happened last Thursday was a remarkable result. | :26:59. | :27:02. | |
It was indeed a seismic result not just for British politics, for | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
European politics, perhaps even for global politics as well. What the | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
little people died, the ordinary people, what the people who have | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
been oppressed over the last few years and seen their living | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
standards go down, they rejected the multinationals, they rejected the | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
merchant banks, they rejected politics. And they said, actually, | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
we want our country back. We want our vision waters back, our borders | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
back, we want to be an independent, self-governing, normal nation. And | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
that is what we have done and what must happen. | :27:42. | :27:43. | |
And, in doing so... APPLAUSE In doing so, we offer a | :27:44. | :27:50. | |
beacon of hope to Democrats in the rest of the European conflict. | :27:51. | :27:55. | |
I will make one prediction, the UK will not be the last member state to | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
leave the European Union. So, the question is, what do we do | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
next? It is up to the British Government | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
to invoke article 50. And I have to say I do not think we should spend | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
too long in doing it. I totally agree that the British people have | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
voted, we need to make sure it happens. | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
But what I would like to see is a grown-up and sensible attitude to | :28:25. | :28:26. | |
how we negotiate a different relationship. | :28:27. | :28:32. | |
Now... I know that virtually none of you | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
have ever done a proper job in your lives. | :28:36. | :28:46. | |
All have worked... Or work in business, or worked in | :28:47. | :28:50. | |
trade, or indeed ever created a job. But, listen, just listen. | :28:51. | :29:04. | |
TRANSLATION: Just a second. Ladies and gentlemen. I do understand that | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
you are getting emotional. But you are acting like Ukip normally acts | :29:09. | :29:14. | |
in this chamber. So, please. Don't imitate them. Mr Farage, I would say | :29:15. | :29:23. | |
one thing to you. The fact that you are claiming nobody has done a | :29:24. | :29:28. | |
decent job in their life, you can't really say that, I am sorry. | :29:29. | :29:33. | |
You are quite right, you get used to protest against the establishment, | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
now the establishment protests against Ukip, so something has | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
happened here. Let us listen to some simple, pragmatic economic. | :29:42. | :29:45. | |
We, between us, between your countries and my country, we do an | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
enormous amount of business in goods and services. That trade is mutually | :29:50. | :29:55. | |
beneficial to both of us. That trade matters. If you were to | :29:56. | :29:59. | |
decide to cut off your noses to spite your face is, and to reject | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
any idea of a sensible trade deal, the consequences would be far worse | :30:05. | :30:12. | |
for you than it would be for us. And I, even no deal is better for the UK | :30:13. | :30:20. | |
than the current rotten deal that we have got. But, if we were to move to | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
a position where tariffs were reintroduced on products like | :30:27. | :30:30. | |
motorcars, then hundreds of thousands of German workers would | :30:31. | :30:35. | |
risk losing their jobs. So, why don't we just be pragmatic, | :30:36. | :30:40. | |
sensible, grown up, realistic, and let us cut between us a sensible | :30:41. | :30:50. | |
tariff free deal and, that after, recognise that the UK will be your | :30:51. | :30:57. | |
friend, that we will trade with you, we will cooperate with you, be your | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
best friends in the world. But do that sensibly and allow us to go off | :31:03. | :31:09. | |
and pursue our global ambitions and future. Thank you. | :31:10. | :31:16. | |
Nigel Farage was brewed has he stood up, heckled as he spoke, | :31:17. | :31:24. | |
particularly as he insulted his fellow members of the EU. He got | :31:25. | :31:29. | |
quite a lot of rounds of applause as well. He loves the headlines and | :31:30. | :31:40. | |
loves the controversy. He pretty much rubbed the noses of the rest of | :31:41. | :31:48. | |
Europe into the referendum result. I think we can maybe catch Marine Le | :31:49. | :32:04. | |
Pen. The will of the people, the UK is leaving after the results of the | :32:05. | :32:07. | |
referendum. This is perhaps the most important historic event on the | :32:08. | :32:12. | |
continent since the fall of the Berlin Wall. It is a signal of | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
Freedom sent out to the entire world, of love of people for their | :32:17. | :32:28. | |
country. The British have chosen route they thought closed for all | :32:29. | :32:36. | |
time. They thought it was irreversible. The British people | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
have told you were to get off. This is a victory for democracy and a | :32:44. | :32:46. | |
slap in the face to the European system. It was increasingly based on | :32:47. | :32:57. | |
fear, blackmail, and lies. We seen examples in this chamber, threats of | :32:58. | :33:08. | |
apocalypse, the stock exchange, the British, they saw through that and | :33:09. | :33:19. | |
they decided to leave you to your indignation. For decades the | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
European Union has been built on the back of ordinary people, France and | :33:25. | :33:31. | |
the Netherlands, the Irish voting again. | :33:32. | :33:40. | |
Posterity was forced down their throats, perpetual poverty was their | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
fate. heresy. If you've been blind for | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
decades by implementing absurd mass unemployment and immigration, | :33:52. | :34:16. | |
it is difficult to come back down to reality and see what has happened. | :34:17. | :34:21. | |
The propagandist are on the left or on the right. Put away the sulky | :34:22. | :34:37. | |
faces and the angry looks. Rejoice in the Emancipation of people. | :34:38. | :34:47. | |
Economic patriotism is a glowing future for the United | :34:48. | :34:49. | |
Kingdom and that should motivate us to build a better future. | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
I can already hear false truth discouraging others from going down | :34:56. | :35:02. | |
the same path or wishing The European Union has decided we | :35:03. | :35:14. | |
must respect their will in that period. The way ahead is simple. | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
with the crazy schemes of those who want even more Europe, and if you go | :35:20. | :35:30. | |
down that path, I guarantee you this | :35:31. | :35:38. | |
totalitarian organisation will collapse. | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
look for cooperation between free people and sovereign nations. I | :35:42. | :35:53. | |
commit to pursuing the path of liberty. | :35:54. | :36:08. | |
leave the leader of the France National Front. She is pursuing a | :36:09. | :36:16. | |
similar path to Britain. Europhile's worst nightmare, the | :36:17. | :36:35. | |
image of Europe breaking up, and both men predict that will happen. | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
Nigel Farage says they are in denial over the consequences of Angela | :36:41. | :36:54. | |
Merkel's decision to let in refugees. | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
The real concern in Brussels are the shock waves it will send through the | :37:02. | :37:07. | |
rest of the European Union. Nigel Farage revelling in the | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
moment, saying you laughed at me for 17 years and you are not laughing | :37:15. | :37:20. | |
now. Deliberately goading them and saying, none of you have done a | :37:21. | :37:21. | |
proper job. He is a hate figure. This view are saying, what would we | :37:22. | :37:38. | |
do with out Nigel Farage? This person says disgraceful comments | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
from Nigel Farage which can cause further damage to any relationship | :37:43. | :37:43. | |
with the EU. We will continue our conversation | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
about the future leadership of the | :37:48. | :37:49. | |
Conservative Party. A source has told this programme | :37:50. | :38:00. | |
Liam Fox is going to throw his hat into the | :38:01. | :38:01. | |
a man who has known Boris Johnson since the 1980s. I | :38:02. | :38:18. | |
asked you about the public image of Theresa May, | :38:19. | :38:20. | |
that she is cold and distant. If that accurate? Not at all. | :38:21. | :38:31. | |
Not extrovert, like Boris, but a quiet and reserved person. She is | :38:32. | :38:42. | |
actually quite shy and her shyness is what people see as her being | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
called. She is not at all. I have been dealing with her as a | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
friend and a minister and also she is a very warm person who | :38:49. | :38:58. | |
is interested in difficult subjects like children, abuse of women, | :38:59. | :39:07. | |
women's role in life in general. She's the contrary of being called | :39:08. | :39:08. | |
person. What would Boris Johnson Premiership | :39:09. | :39:15. | |
be right? It would be completely different to David | :39:16. | :39:19. | |
Cameron, David Cameron uses his manners to control people but with | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
Boris there is a feeling of liberty. He would want to imply people who | :39:25. | :39:31. | |
would be good at things he is not suited to do like administrative | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
stuff. He's not frightened of having other clever people around him. It | :39:36. | :39:41. | |
would be a great deal more dramatic and, Boris does not think you | :39:42. | :39:54. | |
achieve great things by being careful. What would Theresa May | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
Premiership be like? Parolee the opposite. I think she is the person | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
to lead this country. You know that this woman and I think this would be | :40:07. | :40:17. | |
fantastic, a woman to negotiate in Brussels. Could you imagine Boris | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
talking to Angela Merkel? I would feel very safe with somebody I know | :40:24. | :40:29. | |
is hard-working, attention to detail, knows her facts and has been | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
proven as a fantastic Home Secretary. I'm definitely voting for | :40:35. | :40:46. | |
Theresa May. Thank you for your time and patience. The EU referendum | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
result has divided the country by age, geography and class. The | :40:55. | :41:02. | |
question has caused deep divisions within many families. This next | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
conversation will be quite familiar to you. Mum is 42 and she voted to | :41:10. | :41:22. | |
leave the European Union. Her twin daughters voted to Remain. Natasha | :41:23. | :41:32. | |
is doing A-levels and Nikita escaped the aftermath to go on holiday in | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
Canada but they are all here. Let's pretend I'm a fly on the wall in | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
your kitchen, you're sitting round the kitchen table, the kind of | :41:41. | :41:49. | |
conversations you've had about this vote, replicate them. It started | :41:50. | :41:58. | |
from the polling station, the key to phone call from one of her friends. | :41:59. | :42:06. | |
I was in the background saying, fought out, we're better off out. It | :42:07. | :42:13. | |
went on to the polling station where we've gone to vote. I said, what did | :42:14. | :42:21. | |
you vote for? She said it was confidential. I told you not to vote | :42:22. | :42:26. | |
in. That is how it progressed. Me and my sister both voted Remain. I | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
came to that conclusion soon compared to my sister and mum. But | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
talking to both of them, listening to the facts, I came to that | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
conclusion. Are you cross with each other? We were. When we found out we | :42:42. | :42:51. | |
won, I went in first thing and said, we are out. She was really gutted. S | :42:52. | :43:00. | |
to me, it is such a big risk. It is, we don't know what is happening, we | :43:01. | :43:08. | |
don't know what we've done. We've been respectful but I strongly feel | :43:09. | :43:11. | |
the best thing for us and the younger generation is to Remain. Let | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
me bring you in. What do you think about this question might do you | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
respect your mum's vote? I respect her but not her vote. It was really | :43:22. | :43:29. | |
appalling, she did not realise the indication it would have, leaving | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
the EU. I said we need to take everything into consideration, | :43:35. | :43:40. | |
everyone was telling her, her family members telling her why we should | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
leave, but I said, listen to us, we are younger, we are the future. What | :43:46. | :43:55. | |
do you say? What I tried to point out, at the moment this is the storm | :43:56. | :43:59. | |
before the calm, it will be a couple of years, we will face turmoil, but | :44:00. | :44:04. | |
after that, the future generation will benefit from us excepting. It | :44:05. | :44:14. | |
might be rocky for a couple of years and then there will be prosperity, | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
according to your mum. It is not true. A prime example, the ?350 | :44:19. | :44:30. | |
million. Now they are saying it is a mistake, within days of leaving. | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
Imagine what future is going to be like. What do you think about that? | :44:36. | :44:44. | |
I think it's just a genuine mistake. I think the NHS will benefit. | :44:45. | :44:52. | |
Somebody who wanted to become a doctor wants to have faith in the | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
NHS to survive. To hear the next day it is a mistake, it is too big a | :44:59. | :45:06. | |
mistake to make. I am angered by that, yes, that was a mistake that | :45:07. | :45:10. | |
was made. That is a heck of a mistake. | :45:11. | :45:20. | |
I still feel that in the long run it will be better for the junior | :45:21. | :45:27. | |
doctors, the doctors and the NHS as well. Thank you very much. Enjoy the | :45:28. | :45:31. | |
rest of the holiday. Labour MPs have started voting on a | :45:32. | :45:54. | |
vote of no-confidence their leader, Jeremy Corbyn. Dame Margaret Hodge | :45:55. | :46:03. | |
who tabled that motion of no-confidence told us that the | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
turmoil within the Labour Party is the worst she has seen in years. | :46:07. | :46:13. | |
We can talk now to John Woodcock who was at the meeting. | :46:14. | :46:22. | |
with some Jeremy Corbyn officials in the corridor. | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
I was fed up with the people around Jeremy, Jeremy himself is a really | :46:27. | :46:36. | |
decent man. But the people around him were distorting with what had | :46:37. | :46:39. | |
happened in what was meant to be a private meeting. We saw straight | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
afterwards Jeremy going over to the Momentum rally which was full of | :46:46. | :46:54. | |
people. They are not, in the main, Labour supporters. My point is that | :46:55. | :47:03. | |
my fear is Jeremy has surrounded himself with staff who do not | :47:04. | :47:07. | |
actually have the best interests of the Labour Party at heart. | :47:08. | :47:15. | |
And I am encouraging him... What is their motivation? To keep him as | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
leader? But he could change it just like that. | :47:20. | :47:23. | |
In terms of stepping down? Absolutely. The meeting yesterday | :47:24. | :47:29. | |
was powerful. It was passionate and, in the main, calm, in this teaching | :47:30. | :47:37. | |
people. Nigel Farage is speaking again at | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
the European Parliament. I represent Scotland but this house | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
and I am proudly Scottish and proudly European. | :47:47. | :48:00. | |
APPLAUSE I want my country... I want my country to be | :48:01. | :48:03. | |
internationalist, Co-operative, ecological, fair, European. And the | :48:04. | :48:11. | |
people of Scotland, along with the people of Northern Ireland, and the | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
people of London and lots and lots of people in Wales and England also, | :48:17. | :48:23. | |
voted to remain. To vote -- To remain within our family. I demand | :48:24. | :48:29. | |
that that status and that spirit be respected. | :48:30. | :48:32. | |
There are a lot of things to be negotiated. We will need cool heads | :48:33. | :48:36. | |
and warm hearts. But, please, remember this. Scotland did not let | :48:37. | :48:45. | |
you down. Please, I beg you, dear colleagues, do not let Scotland down | :48:46. | :48:52. | |
now. A Scottish MEP, not Nigel Farage. | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
Let us continue with John Woodcock, Labour MP. Talking about this | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
meeting last night of the Parliamentary Labour Party and the | :49:02. | :49:03. | |
rout with the officials around Jeremy Corbyn, do you say their | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
interest is in keeping Jeremy Corbyn in place. Voting has begun on a vote | :49:10. | :49:15. | |
of no-confidence. If Jeremy Corbyn realises by the end of the day that | :49:16. | :49:20. | |
a lot of his Labour MPs do not have confidence in him, he is still not | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
going anywhere. His spokespeople made that very | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
clear. It was really striking, you couldn't have been in that meeting | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
and not being really moved by the stories many MPs were giving, | :49:34. | :49:37. | |
saying, Jeremy, we like and respect you but this is what is happening in | :49:38. | :49:43. | |
our communities, the people we represent are saying this. There is | :49:44. | :49:47. | |
no chance that you could form a Labour Government. And these people | :49:48. | :49:50. | |
need a labour Government. They are frightened by what is happening with | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
the Brexit from the EU, terrified by the aspect of a Boris Johnson | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
premiership. We need to be in a position to win the election. If | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
Jeremy has set his face against that, and it seems he has. | :50:08. | :50:12. | |
Who can you unite, if someone had to challenge him, who with that person | :50:13. | :50:15. | |
be? I am not sure. | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
That is the question. How can you not know that already, you must have | :50:20. | :50:24. | |
been thinking about that? I am not going to get drawn on | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
names. Why not? What we have got now, until | :50:29. | :50:36. | |
5pm, a ballot of no-confidence, are we constant in Jeremy's leadership. | :50:37. | :50:43. | |
Let us see. My sense, and why you have got such a large number of MPs | :50:44. | :50:48. | |
coming out, and so many resigning from the bench, so many speaking up | :50:49. | :50:54. | |
who had been trying to make this work, is that, actually, the feeling | :50:55. | :51:01. | |
in their constituencies, from nonlabour people, and Labour | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
supporters and members, are changing. | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
Here are some comments from supporters who continue to back him. | :51:09. | :51:13. | |
Audrey says, the sooner these rebels leave the party, the sooner we can | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
have a representative opposition. They have never got behind the | :51:18. | :51:22. | |
leader. They are stuck with rigid, outdated ideas, they put themselves | :51:23. | :51:27. | |
above the party and the country. We are in our communities every week | :51:28. | :51:33. | |
listening to what people say. The feeling on the doorstep is looking | :51:34. | :51:36. | |
at the Labour Party and saying, you are not in a state, we are worried | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
about the Tories, you are not in a state to take them on. Many are | :51:42. | :51:46. | |
asking us to actually show some leadership now, and potentially put | :51:47. | :51:49. | |
this back on the table. Jeremy got a big mandate last year, | :51:50. | :51:55. | |
but it was not a mandate that was set in aspic. Since then, we have | :51:56. | :52:02. | |
had bad local election results, this catastrophic result... | :52:03. | :52:05. | |
Better than you expected. No, actually, we are the first | :52:06. | :52:10. | |
opposition to be losing seats for a very long time, this is really | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
serious. Which is why the motion is happening today. | :52:15. | :52:21. | |
Thank you. The results and the fallout from the referendum means | :52:22. | :52:22. | |
the garment has a lot on its hands. We have been taking a look at the | :52:23. | :52:40. | |
Government plans for the rest of the year. | :52:41. | :52:46. | |
about to show you has some flashing images. | :52:47. | :52:49. | |
The result to leave the EU is now the focus of the government's work | :52:50. | :52:52. | |
So does the vacuum created by a lack of leadership mean government | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
A government some might now call a zombie | :52:58. | :53:00. | |
What about a third runway at Heathrow? | :53:01. | :53:19. | |
Well, a decision was expected in July, but that now | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
looks unlikely until a new leader is in place. | :53:23. | :53:24. | |
It is expected the plans will be delayed until a new | :53:25. | :53:30. | |
government works out its spending commitments. | :53:31. | :53:35. | |
Will the nuclear power plant at Hinkley Point get built? | :53:36. | :53:38. | |
September, but EDF, the company building it, is 85% owned | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
So, until the terms of the UK exit are agreed, it's likely to be | :53:42. | :53:51. | |
What is the future of the steel industry? | :53:52. | :53:54. | |
Tata Steel was planning to publish They a bidders' shortlist | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
40% of its steel is exported to the EU. | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
So until a new trade relationship between the UK and the | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
EU is worked out, it's likely to be delayed. | :54:07. | :54:08. | |
The Defence Minister says he hopes a vote on whether to | :54:09. | :54:11. | |
replace Britain's nuclear weapons will go ahead. | :54:12. | :54:12. | |
Let's talk to Dr Ruth Fox from the Hansard Society | :54:13. | :54:29. | |
which is a charity set up to improve the public's understanding | :54:30. | :54:31. | |
And Dr Catherine Haddon from the Institute For Government | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
which sets out to improve how governments work. | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
David Cameron has said he is standing down | :54:40. | :54:41. | |
as Prime Minister, what will that mean for the various plans | :54:42. | :54:44. | |
It means the politically controversial things will be in | :54:45. | :54:54. | |
hiatus waiting for the new promised. Trident, possibly like Heathrow, | :54:55. | :55:06. | |
possibly like Parliament, the ?3.5 million project on Westminster. But | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
the wheels of Parliament will carry on. Normal business will continue. | :55:11. | :55:21. | |
How big a job will it be for civil servants now, who will have to | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
effectively start uncoupling all Government departments from the EU? | :55:26. | :55:32. | |
At the moment, they are preparing plans for what might be the options | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
to put to the new Government. There won't be new decisions being taken | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
but it is a massive job. The unit they announced will be coordinating | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
this work, bringing it together from different departments. Departments | :55:46. | :55:48. | |
themselves will have the big job of looking at the remit of the work | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
they have and make sure it is communicated. | :55:53. | :55:56. | |
Will they be focused on the EU rather than Government bills? | :55:57. | :56:02. | |
It is worth remembering a lot of Government business has been in | :56:03. | :56:05. | |
hiatus for a long time. Routine stuff, announcements of consultation | :56:06. | :56:10. | |
features, on the back burner not just because ministers were busy | :56:11. | :56:13. | |
with the campaign, but because they did not want these new | :56:14. | :56:16. | |
announcements. It adds another level confusion. | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
The civil servants will be busy. Elected ministers, are they treading | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
water for the next few months? There is day-to-day business they | :56:29. | :56:31. | |
have to carry on. Ministers in the Commons today are | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
having to speak to the Finance Bill. House of Lords doing the same thing. | :56:37. | :56:43. | |
That business will grind on. It is the politically controversial stuff, | :56:44. | :56:45. | |
things where there may be divisions within the Tory party, like | :56:46. | :56:51. | |
Heathrow. George Osborne was on the radio this | :56:52. | :56:57. | |
morning saying they had contingency plans economic leak in the event of | :56:58. | :57:04. | |
a leave vote, but not plans in terms of the civil service. The civil | :57:05. | :57:13. | |
service were told not to do that preparatory work. | :57:14. | :57:17. | |
Was that right? It is tricky, they serve the Government of the day, the | :57:18. | :57:29. | |
Government's position was to remain. You could argue, and in 1975, there | :57:30. | :57:37. | |
were contingency plans. You could argue they should have done a little | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
more work. Because we want this delay before we trigger article 50, | :57:42. | :57:43. | |
it gives them an opportunity. We have a Conservative Party | :57:44. | :57:59. | |
leadership. Potentially a general election. | :58:00. | :58:05. | |
Then, a couple of years to excavate ourselves from the EU. | :58:06. | :58:14. | |
-- extricate. On the programme tomorrow, one | :58:15. | :58:18. | |
subject will dominate, we will keep you across the latest elements. | :58:19. | :58:23. | |
Thank you for watching. We are back tomorrow at 9am, have a very good | :58:24. | :58:24. | |
day. | :58:25. | :58:27. |