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Hello, it's Tuesday, it's 9am, I'm Joanna Gosling, | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
The Government warns of a growing threat from hackers, | :00:09. | :00:19. | |
criminals and foreign states and says new measures are needed | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
Adele speaks candidly about postnatal depression, | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
saying it's left her scared to have another baby. | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
We'll ask if her honesty will help other women. | :00:30. | :00:32. | |
And we'll meet two winners of the Daily Mirror Pride | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
of Britain awards, honoured for their extraordinary | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
bravery, including David Nott, who risks his life to operate | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
I was watching a man looking for his daughter amongst the rubble, and he | :00:42. | :00:53. | |
found her and took her to a hospital, where there was no surgeon | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
available. My heart turned and I thought, I am going to help him, I | :00:59. | :01:00. | |
want to be that surgeon. Welcome to the programme, | :01:01. | :01:09. | |
we're live until 11am this morning. In an interview with Vanity Fair | :01:10. | :01:16. | |
magazine Adele has admitted she didn't talk to anyone | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
about her postnatal depression until finally breaking down | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
in tears with a friend. If you've experienced something | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
similar, then do get in touch Why is this condition that | :01:25. | :01:26. | |
affects so many new mothers And why are women not | :01:27. | :01:33. | |
getting more help? Do get in touch on all the stories | :01:34. | :01:38. | |
we're talking about this morning. Use the hashtag #VictoriaLIVE, | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
and if you text, you will be charged Measures to protect the UK | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
from cyber attacks are being announced by the Government | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
in a new strategy, backed up by nearly ?2 billion | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
worth of funding. The expected threats range | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
from foreign states to organised Chancellor Phillip Hammond will give | :02:00. | :02:01. | |
details in a speech later. It comes as to hospital trusts say | :02:02. | :02:13. | |
they have cancelled operations after a computer virus caused a major | :02:14. | :02:15. | |
incident. How worried if the Government? The | :02:16. | :02:26. | |
view is that cyber attacks are as great a threat as terrorism, because | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
pretty much every aspect of our life is now dependent on smart | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
technology, you think of your own life, with a smartphone, tablets, | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
maybe your central heating, you think of business, how it is so | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
reliant, especially the financial sector, on computers, and our key | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
infrastructure, things like energy supplies, transport, those key | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
pillars of society now hinge absolutely on computer technology. | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
The fear is we are increasingly form rubble to it being hacked, not | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
necessarily by foreign powers, but by criminal gangs, or just hackers | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
who want to cause damage. The Government is doubling the amount of | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
cash they put into cybersecurity to take on board more cybersecurity | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
investigators, to set up a new Institute to hone our expertise on | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
cybersecurity. The most interesting think we are going to hear today is | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
a warning that if Britain is subject to cyber attacks, we built strike | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
back. Philip Hammond does not say who we will strike back against, or | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
how, but the clear implication is we will hit back if Russia seeks to | :03:42. | :03:48. | |
damage our society by cyber attacks in a way that seems to have been | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
taking place in the American presidential elections, with claims | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
that the Russians have tried to hack into the Clinton campaign. That is | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
interesting, not least because the head of MI5 has said today that | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
there is a threat from Russia, what is the evidence? He says that Russia | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
is now increasingly aggressive, and he is not just talking about cyber | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
attacks, he is talking about the track record of Russia, you think of | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
Crimea, Ukraine, and now Syria, and we saw that Russian battle fleet | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
sailing through the channel en route to the Mediterranean, she would be | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
so it can take part in the attacks on Aleppo. There is a view that | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
flood Putin is incredibly -- increasingly emboldened. We may not | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
be back in a Cold War, but relations are distinct leak calling between | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
the West and Russia, and part of the new front line appears to be cyber | :04:56. | :04:57. | |
warfare. Annita is in the BBC | :04:58. | :04:59. | |
Newsroom with a summary A new therapy that a study suggests | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
can successfully treat two thirds of children with chronic fatigue | :05:02. | :05:07. | |
syndrome is being In England, up to one in 50 children | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
have the syndrome, The online treatment trial | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
will target more than 700 children and teenagers, | :05:16. | :05:19. | |
many of whom live too far away from the specialist services | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
which might help them recover. The therapy has been shown to be | :05:23. | :05:26. | |
effective in a smaller trial in the Netherlands, | :05:27. | :05:33. | |
with 63% of children The Iraqi Prime Minister Haider | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
al-Abadi has appeared on state television wearing combat fatigues, | :05:36. | :05:38. | |
urging Islamic State group militants Iraqi special forces have reached | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
the city boundaries. Campaigners say they'll keep | :05:43. | :06:03. | |
fighting for an inquiry into the clashes between miners | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
and police at Orgreave The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
ruled a formal review out because there were no deaths | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
or wrongful convictions. Ms Rudd told MPs the incident | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
happened too long ago and that an inquiry was not | :06:21. | :06:22. | |
in the public interest. Those calling for a review | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
into the actions of the police condemned the decision | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
as an "establishment stitch-up". We are expecting a news conference | :06:28. | :06:41. | |
later this morning, we will bring it to you live. | :06:42. | :06:43. | |
One of the most bitter US Presidential election | :06:44. | :06:45. | |
campaigns in living memory is entering its final week. | :06:46. | :06:47. | |
Hillary Clinton, who had been leading opinion polls, | :06:48. | :06:49. | |
says she's confident an FBI investigation into newly | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
discovered emails will find she has no case to answer. | :06:52. | :06:54. | |
Meanwhile, the Republican contender, Donald Trump, says he believes | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
the services have found what he calls the "mother | :06:58. | :06:59. | |
The final push by the two candidates, putting themselves | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
through a punishing schedule, criss-crossing this country, | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
Just a few days ago, Hillary Clinton appeared | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
headed towards victory, but the discovery of new e-mails | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
by the FBI, an issue that's dogged her for three years, | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
has put her in conflict with the country's top | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
Now they apparently want to look at e-mails of one of my staffers, | :07:29. | :07:34. | |
and I am sure they will reach the same conclusion they did | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
when they looked at my e-mails for the last year. | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
Hillary Clinton has vowed not to allow the e-mail saga | :07:43. | :07:50. | |
to distract her from this election and, indeed, | :07:51. | :07:53. | |
the FBI was booed here at this rally, but the investigators | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
are the last people you want to take on in the run-up to polling day. | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
And of course, for her real opponent, it's a golden opportunity. | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
And Donald Trump has wasted no time seizing on the revelations. | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
That was so bad, what happened originally, and it took guts | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
for Director Comey to make the move that he made in light of the kind | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
of opposition he had, with trying to protect her | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
It's now a battle for public opinion, and the big question, | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
what will the undecided voters make of these new revelations? | :08:34. | :08:41. | |
The Metropolitan Police has agreed to pay compensation to a gay man | :08:42. | :08:44. | |
from London after it admitted it had failed to properly investigate his | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
David Cary, who's 54, complained in 2007 that he'd been | :08:49. | :08:55. | |
He sued the Met for discrimination because it failed to treat | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
A shortage of qualified nursery teachers in England has left more | :09:00. | :09:06. | |
than quarter of a million children at risk of falling behind | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
by the time they start school, according to Save The Children. | :09:10. | :09:12. | |
A report by the charity warns there's been a sharp fall | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
in the number of people applying for teaching roles in nurseries, | :09:16. | :09:17. | |
While nurseries have staff to care for children, | :09:18. | :09:25. | |
independent ones not attached to schools don't have to have any | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
At this nursery in Blackburn, the principal is a graduate-level | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
qualified teacher who believes that knowledge and training is important | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
to the way the children's learning is structured. | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
I think it helps us to know the children better. | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
We can see the psychology behind what they're doing and why they're | :09:45. | :09:47. | |
doing it and we have different skills we can use | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
to extend their learning more easily than somebody | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
Save The Children wants to see a qualified early-years | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
teacher in every nursery, but it says in England more | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
than 280,000 children in independent nurseries have to do | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
It says it makes them almost 10% less likely to meet the expected | :10:08. | :10:12. | |
levels of development when they start school and it says | :10:13. | :10:15. | |
the number of people applying for early-years teaching roles has | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
The independent sector is doing really well in terms of providing | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
care for children up and down the country, | :10:25. | :10:26. | |
but they simply don't have the funds, the income, | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
to afford this crucial early-years teacher and too many of them | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
The Department for Education says it has trained over 16,000 specialist | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
early-years graduates and that a record number of providers are now | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
It says it wants to get the best staff working | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
in nurseries and preschools, so that every child has learnt | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
HMRC is chasing almost ?2 billion that is potentially owed in taxes | :10:50. | :10:59. | |
by the UK's richest people, according to the | :11:00. | :11:01. | |
Adele has revealed that she suffered postnatal depression after giving | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
At the time, she admitted she felt like she had made "the worst | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
She told Vanity Fair she loved her son Angelo more | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
than anything but felt inadequate as a mother and had to spend time | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
A gang of bikers has caused traffic chaos during a Halloween ride around | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
The group of around 50 off-road motorcycles and quad bikes | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
brought Kirkstall Road, a major route into Leeds, | :11:26. | :11:27. | |
Witnesses posted videos on Twitter and described the scenes | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
as being similar to those in the Mel Gibson film Mad Max. | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
Police closed the road until the group had dispersed. | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
That's a summary of the latest BBC News, more at 9:30am. | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
In a moment, a group of Muslim women say Government inquiries into Sharia | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
councils risk treating them like political footballs. | :11:52. | :11:52. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
And let us know what you think about treating any with cognitive | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
behavioural therapy. If you text, you will be charged | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
at the standard network rate. There was a bad accident | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
in the racing at Kempton yesterday, what's the latest on the health | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
of the jockeys involved? It is rare for something like this | :12:16. | :12:27. | |
to happen in flat racing, but the jockey remains in intensive care | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
after that fall yesterday afternoon. He had to be flown by air ambulance | :12:31. | :12:36. | |
to hospital, with suspected spinal injuries. He was said to be stable | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
last night, we are expecting an update at 11am. He was not the only | :12:41. | :12:47. | |
jockey involved. You could see these pictures, this is the aftermath of | :12:48. | :12:50. | |
the incident. Three other riders were unseated. Jim Crowley was also | :12:51. | :12:56. | |
injured and taken to hospital, but was discharged last night. Two more | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
jockeys were able to walk away and did not require hospital attention. | :13:02. | :13:08. | |
These events don't happen often in flat racing, but because there are | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
not any obstacles to Cleo, horses can reach speeds of 30 mph, and with | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
riders bunched together during the race, incidents like this can occur. | :13:18. | :13:19. | |
A row is brewing over the England and Scotland football teams wearing | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
poppies on their shirts in their friendly next week? | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
Similar discussions took ways if you years ago, but the debate has been | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
reignited, because they will play each other next week in a World Cup | :13:34. | :13:38. | |
qualifier, and the match falls on the 11th of November, Armistice Day. | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
Many domestic clubs have poppies on their shirts, we saw it with Everton | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
over the weekend, but the problem is that the world governing body does | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
not allow players to wear political, religious or commercial messages on | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
their shirts. The English and Scottish associations are in talks | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
to see what solution can be reached. Fitzwilliam contacted Fifa last time | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
to argue that wearing a poppy was not a political statement. The teams | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
fear that they could face a points deduction if they go ahead and wear | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
poppies on their shirts without Fifa's permission. It has been | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
confirmed that the FA of Wales are seeking Fifa approval to wear | :14:23. | :14:25. | |
poppies on their shirts for the qualifier against Serbia on the 12th | :14:26. | :14:26. | |
of November. It was Stoke v Swansea | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
last night, and a good Not a bad day for him, he scored his | :14:29. | :14:39. | |
first goals of the season. City, and against his old employers. Stoke | :14:40. | :14:46. | |
City move up to 12th in the table. It was 1-1 at half-time, but after | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
pressure on the Swansea goal, Stoke City went ahead through an own goal, | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
and then this from Wilfried Bony made it 3-1 Amity Final Score. A | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
third straight victory for them. Swansea have managed five points | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
from a possible 30 this season, they have not won a league game since the | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
opening day of the season. We will have more football for you at 10am, | :15:11. | :15:13. | |
fresh from lifting the women's Super League Trophy with Manchester City, | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
Steph Horton and Lucy Bronze will join me life. | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
More than 100 Muslim women have complained about their treatment | :15:25. | :15:26. | |
by politicians investigating the use of sharia councils in the UK. | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
The councils are tribunals often used to settle disputes | :15:31. | :15:33. | |
within the Muslim community, and later today a group | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
of politicians begin an inquiry into how they operate in the UK. | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
But Shaista Gohir, the chair of Muslim Women's Network UK, | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
says the inquiries could patronise women and says everyone thinks | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
We'll hear more from her in a moment. | :15:45. | :15:56. | |
First, though, last year this programme was granted rare access | :15:57. | :15:58. | |
Our reporter Jean Mackenzie spent a number of days there observing | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
the hearings and speaking to the women involved. | :16:03. | :16:04. | |
We'd just like you to briefly tell us what has been the issue? | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
Each month a panel of Islamic scholars meet in a side room | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
of Birmingham Central Mosque, with a full day of | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
And you said this marriage was not consummated. | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
Today all the cases are women wanting a divorce. | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
Nasheen has come to escape a forced marriage. | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
You have to give your body, you have to give everything to them. | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
You absolutely have every right, you don't have to live | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
This is regarded as one of the better councils. | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
There are around 30 of them around the UK. | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
The judges make rulings based on Islam, which are not recognised | :16:46. | :16:50. | |
He was a different person with me, always angry. | :16:51. | :17:06. | |
What was the turning point when you decided | :17:07. | :17:19. | |
The biggest concern about the councils is | :17:20. | :17:37. | |
In some extreme cases, women have been refused divorces | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
from violent marriages, instead told to mediate | :17:43. | :17:45. | |
You feel secure, unsecure that he can hurt you? | :17:46. | :17:51. | |
If I see him, I shudder, my whole body starts shaking, | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
This is not enough, does not have value. | :17:55. | :18:06. | |
Is it not possible to forget all the things? | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
Despite Yasmina's insistence, the council wants to be sure her | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
The first objective here is to try... | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
That is why he is asking you as well. | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
We will discuss for five minutes, if you could sit outside. | :18:23. | :18:35. | |
From our Birmingham studio we're joined by the Chair | :18:36. | :18:38. | |
of the Muslim Women's Network UK Shaista Gohir, who will be giving | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
evidence at the Home Affairs Select Committee hearing this afternoon. | :18:44. | :18:45. | |
In the studio with me are Pragna Patel from the organisation | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
the Southall Black Sisters, who has also been consulted as part | :18:49. | :18:56. | |
of today's inquiry, and Amra Bone, who was the first female judge | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
You think that sharia courts don't need to be shut down, | :19:00. | :19:14. | |
And it could do. Why do you think that? We are really fed up of | :19:15. | :19:23. | |
everyone, not just politicians, treating us like children and not | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
listening to us when it comes to solutions. Let me explain what I | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
mean. In terms of the politicians, we welcome the enquiries, however, I | :19:30. | :19:38. | |
wish this had not been launched by the Home Office. It should have been | :19:39. | :19:43. | |
launched by the Ministry of Justice. They have a duty to eliminate | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
discrimination. As for sharia councils, they are not applying | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
Islamic principles uniformly. Sometimes they get this. Women could | :19:55. | :20:03. | |
get a speedy divorce without discrimination. | :20:04. | :20:15. | |
They regularly listen to women but when it comes to solutions they get | :20:16. | :20:28. | |
ignored, and I think you could split them in two camps. Those that mean | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
well and are protecting Muslim women, and then you have a smaller | :20:34. | :20:48. | |
group of activists including feminists, using it for their own | :20:49. | :20:55. | |
purposes, and what we are seeing, everyone must put aside their | :20:56. | :21:02. | |
political agendas and listen to what Muslim women are saying and we need | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
solutions that work best for Muslim women. They need to inform the | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
debate. We are talking about it all the time, listen to us and | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
prioritise our voices. You don't like the councils. I think it's such | :21:20. | :21:29. | |
a pity she has not really focused on the debate, this is not about an | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
attack on activists, it is such a shame she used her time to talk | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
about activists and not the rights and wrongs of these councils. The | :21:40. | :21:46. | |
point is there is no such thing as sharia law. Sharia codes operate | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
differently in different councils and across Muslim majority | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
countries. What is taken to be that is open to interpretation. What we | :21:57. | :22:04. | |
have is a dominant, austere, fundamentalist form of sharia law | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
which is embedded in community structures and normalised. And our | :22:11. | :22:17. | |
opposition, we're not just opposing councils but all religious forums | :22:18. | :22:21. | |
that arbitrate on family matters. We know that if they are endorsed by | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
the state in any shape whatsoever it will not be wrong before | :22:26. | :22:32. | |
fundamentalists, and the Jewish communities, will want similar | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
arrangements. The main reason sharia councils and religious arbitration | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
forums are really problematic is they are patriarchal, discriminatory | :22:46. | :22:52. | |
structures that serve to further the interests of patriarchs and women. | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
You're the first female judge appointed to one of these councils. | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
How do you respond to that? I disagree. I'm speaking from the | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
council I'm in, I've been on the council panel for 11 years. I sit | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
alongside men and we have principles of Islam which are not what is | :23:18. | :23:26. | |
presented, there is justice, equality, compassion that we apply | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
and women come to us, voluntarily, they want to use the services and in | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
fact the council where I am, it was started by two women, it was a | :23:41. | :23:47. | |
service provided for women who could hear their problems and views, and | :23:48. | :23:55. | |
it has led to a sharia Council. You're talking about your | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
experience. Do you think there are no questions to answer about how the | :23:59. | :24:09. | |
system operates? There are councils where you need to improve these | :24:10. | :24:23. | |
processes. We do our best. It is to do with faith. People are free to | :24:24. | :24:30. | |
register their marriages and we encourage people to register their | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
marriages and take advantage of the facilities. What about the | :24:36. | :24:45. | |
overarching point, that there should be no religious element when it | :24:46. | :24:50. | |
comes to making decisions on family matters? People have faith and we | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
cannot take away people's faith, they want to live according to their | :24:54. | :25:00. | |
faith as well as the law of the land. It is like body and spirit. My | :25:01. | :25:12. | |
response is of course people want to live by their faith. The point is, | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
does the state have any business regulating family matters using | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
these unaccountable self appointed structures of our communities who | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
are an added layer of oppression for women and children? I would point | :25:27. | :25:36. | |
out that many of the women who use this, the largest group of women | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
that use us, see their best hope of justice in the legal system. Not in | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
the sharia councils that are unaccountable, not transparent. You | :25:49. | :25:55. | |
spoke about your process and your view of whether they are right or | :25:56. | :26:03. | |
wrong for women. What is your perspective? We need to stop | :26:04. | :26:12. | |
assuming every woman who goes there gets a bad service. Sometimes they | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
are dealt with quickly. A significant number don't. We get | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
case studies. The latest was this Wednesday. We need to reform the | :26:25. | :26:37. | |
system and raise the standards. You want to reform the system. Yes, I'm | :26:38. | :26:42. | |
going to look at that. Those activists who want to abolish the | :26:43. | :26:52. | |
councils don't have the Muslim women's views at the forefront of | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
their mind. At the end of the day Muslim women are going to want to | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
have a religious divorce so what that will end up doing is driving | :27:01. | :27:07. | |
them underground which will result in less transparency, higher fees | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
and more discrimination. We think the best way to deal with this, yes | :27:11. | :27:15. | |
there needs to be accountability and standards raised and maybe there | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
could be some chords of practice, the government could step in and | :27:21. | :27:29. | |
regulate, but at the same time, it is a myth to assume Muslims do not | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
want to use the British justice system or civil law. We are asking | :27:33. | :27:43. | |
the government to make it law that you have a civil marriage before you | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
have a religious marriage. Then you can go and get a civil divorce. Then | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
we would like to see a campaign to educate the community that a civil | :27:53. | :27:59. | |
divorce can count. Then, slowly, Muslim women would stop using them | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
or it would not need to use them. Surely this is a more sensible and | :28:05. | :28:10. | |
pragmatic approach. Quick final word in the studio. Actually, sharia | :28:11. | :28:18. | |
councils are not just places where women get divorces, they are places | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
where women's rights are violated in fundamental ways. We need to look at | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
the in which the Muslim arbitration tribunal seeks to... Onto quick | :28:28. | :28:37. | |
final thoughts. We have women who have had civil divorces, it is not | :28:38. | :28:48. | |
just a matter of needing this. The two can work and together, there is | :28:49. | :28:56. | |
no competition. It is great to hear from you all. Let us know your | :28:57. | :29:08. | |
thoughts from that. In the last few minutes we've heard that Iraqi | :29:09. | :29:17. | |
troops have headed into the city of Mosul and faced resistance from | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
Islamic State. I spoke just before we came on air. We are on the very | :29:23. | :29:30. | |
fringes of Mosul right now. I'm surrounded by armoured Humvees, | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
there are tanks to my left. There has been a lot of incoming fire from | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
Islamic State, pinning down these troops. But they have been moving | :29:42. | :29:48. | |
into the city faster than expected. A lot of weapons have been fired | :29:49. | :29:55. | |
out, some have been fired in. In the last few moments there was an aerial | :29:56. | :30:07. | |
strike from coalition jets. The area is thick with dust. It is quite | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
confused situation. The commander of the unit said he was hoping today | :30:14. | :30:21. | |
there would be reason for the world and the Iraqi people to celebrate. | :30:22. | :30:28. | |
What are you able to ascertain about the strategy of Islamic State? | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
They are hardened fighters, and many of them are willing to die for their | :30:34. | :30:39. | |
cause a matter takes for a tough enemy. We have all been in a convoy, | :30:40. | :30:49. | |
dozens of armoured vehicles and tanks, hundreds of men, also heavily | :30:50. | :30:59. | |
-- and get those fighters have stood their ground, even though they know | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
they could not win this battle. That is going to make it slow and | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
dangerous. Yesterday alone the convoy we were with were targeted by | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
four separate car bombs, there was another one that try to attack the | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
base this morning, unsuccessfully. They know what is coming, they know | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
they are fighters that won't give ground, they are pretty well armed, | :31:22. | :31:28. | |
a lot of arms and trucks from the Iraqi military when they fled my | :31:29. | :31:34. | |
soul when is a mixed came in, and they are ready to die, so everybody | :31:35. | :31:41. | |
expects a long, difficult and bloody campaign, and the question is, what | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
happens to be civilians, who are stuck inside the city. They are | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
vulnerable to being used as human shields, with any fighting going on | :31:51. | :31:57. | |
around them. What are the concerns? That is right, the UN has been Cleo, | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
we have seen reports from a number of different sources which make | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
things credible, which show that Islamic state retreated from a | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
number of the villages in the province it was controlling, they | :32:12. | :32:14. | |
took civilians with them, they ordered people to get on their | :32:15. | :32:18. | |
trucks and travel with them, otherwise they would be killed. We | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
also know from previous operations against Islamic State that they put | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
civilians in their own vehicles to try and stop the Iraqi forces from | :32:30. | :32:38. | |
attacking them. It will make the military operation hard, but one can | :32:39. | :32:41. | |
only begin to imagine how terrifying it must be for those people caught | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
in the middle of this, not able to escape. A lot of terrified civilians | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
waving white flags in the villages that we have gone through. They look | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
extremely grateful when the forces come in and Islamic State leave. But | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
people are going to hedge their bets. The country has seen a lot of | :33:01. | :33:08. | |
war over a lot of years, and people are trying to make themselves and | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
their families safer. The situation is unpredictable, have determined | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
are the forces you are with to get into Mosul by the end of today? I am | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
amazed that we are this far forward. Nobody expected this. | :33:24. | :33:36. | |
This group was much more advanced. We thought it would make them | :33:37. | :33:44. | |
vulnerable to attack, but they decided they had momentum and they | :33:45. | :33:51. | |
pushed on. The major is battle hardened and battle scarred. | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
Previous campaigns against Islamic State. They lost more than a dozen | :33:56. | :34:04. | |
men because of an attack that was launched by Islamic State. A lot of | :34:05. | :34:10. | |
this is about payback, but also about establishing control for the | :34:11. | :34:19. | |
Iraqi Government. When we finished speaking, he said | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
they were going to go on the move immediately, and they did go off and | :34:24. | :34:31. | |
have entered Mosul. He has tweeted to say the Iraqi forces have entered | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
my soul, they are fighting on the outskirts against very stiff Islamic | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
State resistance, and there is fierce resistance as | :34:40. | :34:44. | |
counterterrorism forces push into Mosul, the heart of the so-called | :34:45. | :34:46. | |
caliphate. We'll keep you updated. Honoured for their | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
extraordinary bravery. We'll meet two winners | :34:50. | :34:51. | |
of the Daily Mirror Pride of Britain awards, including surgeon | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
David Nott, who risks his life And, with one in 50 children thought | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
to be affected by severe exhaustion, we'll ask if a new therapy | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
being trailed for the NHS can help Here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom | :35:01. | :35:03. | |
with a summary of today's news. Iraqi troops have entered Mosul, and | :35:04. | :35:25. | |
are fighting Islamic State militants. Our correspondent | :35:26. | :35:31. | |
embedded with special forces has tweeted that counterterrorism forces | :35:32. | :35:33. | |
were facing stiff resistance on the edge of the city. Government it have | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
been advancing on Mosul from the South, part of an offensive which | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
began more than two weeks ago. Measures to protect the UK | :35:42. | :35:43. | |
from cyberattacks are being announced by the Government | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
in a new strategy backed up by The expected threats range | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
from foreign states to organised Chancellor Philip Hammond will give | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
details in a speech later. The initiative comes as two hospital | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
trusts in Lincolnshire said they have cancelled operations | :35:58. | :36:00. | |
after a computer virus caused A new therapy that a study suggests | :36:01. | :36:03. | |
can successfully treat two thirds of children with chronic fatigue | :36:04. | :36:10. | |
syndrome is being In England, up to one in 50 children | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
have the syndrome, The online treatment trial | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
will target more than 700 children and teenagers, | :36:18. | :36:23. | |
many of whom live too far away from the specialist services | :36:24. | :36:26. | |
which might help them recover. Campaigners say they'll keep | :36:27. | :36:33. | |
fighting for an inquiry into the clashes between miners | :36:34. | :36:35. | |
and police at Orgreave The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has | :36:36. | :36:37. | |
ruled a formal review out because there were no deaths | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
or wrongful convictions. Ms Rudd told MPs the incident | :36:44. | :36:46. | |
happened too long ago and that an inquiry was not | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
in the public interest. Those calling for a review | :36:50. | :36:52. | |
into the actions of the police condemned the decision | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
as an "establishment stitch-up". The Metropolitan Police has agreed | :36:56. | :37:01. | |
to pay compensation to a gay man from London after it admitted it had | :37:02. | :37:03. | |
failed to properly investigate his David Cary, who's 54, | :37:04. | :37:07. | |
complained in 2007 that he'd been He sued the Met for discrimination | :37:08. | :37:14. | |
because it failed to treat That's a summary of the latest | :37:15. | :37:19. | |
BBC News, more at 10am. Jockey Freddie Tylicki remains | :37:20. | :37:27. | |
in intensive care with suspected spinal injuries after a fall | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
at Kempton yesterday. The champion jockey Jim Crowley | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
was also hurt, but has since been The English and Scottish FAs | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
are in talks with Fifa over whether players can wear poppies | :37:44. | :37:49. | |
on their shirts, like those seen here in the Premier League | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
at the weekend, for their World Cup The game's world governing | :37:53. | :37:56. | |
body bans political, Wilfied Bony scored his first two | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
goals for Stoke as they beat his struggling former club Swansea 3-1 | :38:00. | :38:07. | |
in the Premier League. Bob Bradley's side remain deep | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
in the relegation zone without a win And, Wales's rugby-union captain | :38:11. | :38:13. | |
Sam Warburton is out of their opening autumn Test | :38:14. | :38:21. | |
against Australia Justin Tipuric is likely | :38:22. | :38:23. | |
to replace him for the first match Some comments, on what Dell has said | :38:24. | :38:45. | |
about postnatal depression, she said it has put her of having a second | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
child. Emma says, many people do not realise the severity of postnatal | :38:51. | :38:55. | |
depression. I experienced a severe psychosis after my last child was | :38:56. | :38:59. | |
born, it took me a huge as to recover fully. I am glad Adele has | :39:00. | :39:03. | |
spoken openly, it can be dreadful for all of those affected. On sharia | :39:04. | :39:11. | |
law, the enquiry is under way into cancelled, one person says, tribunal | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
is undermined the integrity and sovereignty of our judiciary system. | :39:17. | :39:23. | |
Anthony, sharia councils have no place in England, but I think the | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
Government might be scared of being labelled racist if they interfere | :39:28. | :39:30. | |
too much. Keep your thoughts coming in. | :39:31. | :39:33. | |
Campaigners are vowing to step up their efforts to secure | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
an inquiry into the so-called Battle of Orgreave, even though | :39:38. | :39:40. | |
Ministers argue there were no miscarriages of justice or deaths | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
following violent clashes between police and miners picketing | :39:46. | :39:47. | |
outside a coking plant near Rotherham in 1984. | :39:48. | :39:49. | |
That day in June 1984 went down in history as the most violent day | :39:50. | :39:58. | |
thousands of pickets met huge lines of police, | :39:59. | :40:06. | |
who were brought in from all around the country, | :40:07. | :40:08. | |
outside the Orgreave coke works near Rotherham. | :40:09. | :40:09. | |
The miners were trying to stop lorry loads of coke | :40:10. | :40:12. | |
They thought that would help them win their strike, | :40:13. | :40:17. | |
but police were determined to hold them back. | :40:18. | :40:19. | |
The stand-off escalated, and violence broke | :40:20. | :40:21. | |
Many miners and police officers were injured. | :40:22. | :40:25. | |
One officer said it was a "miracle" no-one was killed. | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
The debate goes on about who acted first, but police horses were sent | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
to charge the crowd up the field and officers | :40:34. | :40:35. | |
Many miners and police officers were injured. | :40:36. | :40:42. | |
The protesters argued the response had been heavy-handed and it | :40:43. | :40:46. | |
destroyed many mining communities faith in the police. | :40:47. | :40:54. | |
Then the year after the violence, the trial of nearly 100 | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
protesters collapsed because of "unreliable" | :40:59. | :40:59. | |
The miners felt they'd been set up, that there had been a plan to beat | :41:00. | :41:04. | |
them, to show them they couldn't win the strike. | :41:05. | :41:07. | |
27 years later, a BBC investigation found that South Yorkshire Police | :41:08. | :41:09. | |
had told officers what to write in their statements, | :41:10. | :41:12. | |
Reading a paragraph or so from some paper, and they asked people to use | :41:13. | :41:25. | |
that as their starting paragraph. The Orgreave Truth and Justice | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
campaign has long campaigned for a full public inquiry | :41:31. | :41:32. | |
into what had happened that day. But yesterday, the Home Secretary | :41:33. | :41:35. | |
Amber Rudd said that wouldn't happen, to calls of "Disgrace" | :41:36. | :41:42. | |
in the House of Commons. I have concluded that there is no | :41:43. | :41:44. | |
case for either a statutory enquiry An astonishing and shameful | :41:45. | :41:58. | |
decision, the Government have let those families of the garden path. | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
Does she not understand that the disinfecting light of a enquiry is | :42:03. | :42:09. | |
the only thing that will give those communities and families the | :42:10. | :42:11. | |
confidence they need back in the South Yorkshire Police force? I | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
would urge him not to leap to anger quite so quickly. This Government | :42:17. | :42:23. | |
has taken the time, has looked at the documents. I have been in post | :42:24. | :42:26. | |
for three months, I have met with the families, with the campaigning | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
MPs, the fact that I have reached a different decision from the one that | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
he holds does not mean that it is any way dishonourable. This is a | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
difficult position to make, I have made it considering all the facts, | :42:42. | :42:43. | |
and I believe it is the right one. We are expecting a news conference | :42:44. | :42:54. | |
later this morning. We will bring it to you live. | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
Adele has been speaking for the first time about suffering from | :43:02. | :43:06. | |
postnatal depression after giving birth to her son. We will ask if her | :43:07. | :43:12. | |
honesty will help other women. Our next guest could not be more | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
different, a girl who has suffered a terrible accident as a cobbler, the | :43:19. | :43:22. | |
other is a leading surgeon who risks his life to treat people in war | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
zones. What they have in common is the most extraordinary bravery, and | :43:28. | :43:30. | |
that courage saw them both honoured at the pride of Britain awards last | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
night. We will talk to them both at the moment. | :43:35. | :43:44. | |
There were many moments when I thought I was going to die. In | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
Aleppo, David is battling to help save civilians' lives. We will | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
operate for another 12 hours or so. This is not his day job. He normally | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
works in NHS hospitals in London. Every year he takes two months | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
unpaid leave to bring his surgical skills to the people who need it | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
most. For David, it is what he lives and breathes and what he loves | :44:11. | :44:16. | |
doing. It comes from his heart. It all began when he saw a news report | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
about the war in Sarajevo. I was watching a man looking for his | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
daughter amongst the rubble, and he found her and took her to a | :44:27. | :44:29. | |
hospital, where there was no surgeon available to offer rate. My heart | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
turned and I thought, I am going to go out and help him, I want to be | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
that surgeon. He has spent more than 20 years crossing the globe, from | :44:41. | :44:44. | |
war zones in Gaza and the Congo to earthquakes in Haiti and Nepal. He | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
is driven by the difference he can make, and he understands it is | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
dangerous, but he feels it is a GTO. Whilst operating on a patient in | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
Syria, he was interrupted by so-called Islamic State fighters | :44:58. | :44:59. | |
armed with Kalashnikov 's. Eventually the men turned away and | :45:00. | :45:18. | |
left him to finish the surgery. He struggles with post-traumatic stress | :45:19. | :45:26. | |
disorder. He always says I will go again. Even when he's back in | :45:27. | :45:32. | |
London, he carries on his vital work, training surgeons and | :45:33. | :45:44. | |
overseeing operations in Syria. In 2007, they had a baby girl, Tilly. | :45:45. | :45:58. | |
Very troublesome. One morning, when Tilly was 15 months old, life for | :45:59. | :46:03. | |
her happy family took a tragic turn. I took some washing down steers and | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
I heard a scream. She'd been claiming on a bean bag next to the | :46:09. | :46:16. | |
bath and fell in. She was standing in the bath with no skin on. The hot | :46:17. | :46:25. | |
tap had been left on. I thought we had lost her there. She had burns to | :46:26. | :46:36. | |
86% of her body surface. At the time, no child of that age had | :46:37. | :46:43. | |
survived such a severe injury. We thought she would not make it | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
through the night. She almost died seven times but after 12 hours of | :46:49. | :46:54. | |
surgery, incredibly, she survived. I wish it was me and not her. Since | :46:55. | :47:00. | |
her accident it years ago, Tilly has had over 500 operations including | :47:01. | :47:08. | |
having to have her leg amputated. But there is no stopping this little | :47:09. | :47:15. | |
girl. Every scar tells a story. Nothing will faze her. When she is | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
in the hospital, it is fine, it will not hurt. She has taken on a roll as | :47:21. | :47:30. | |
the face of the charity which sends ill and disadvantaged families and | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
their children on holidays. I like helping other children. It shows | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
that they can go out and be who they are. She is living life to the full. | :47:41. | :47:53. | |
Tilly is in a band, they started when they were in hospital. They | :47:54. | :48:01. | |
would sing and dance to Little Mix songs. My sister is the very bravest | :48:02. | :48:11. | |
person in the whole wide world. Their shears. I'm delighted to say | :48:12. | :48:14. | |
that Tilly is here with her. Welcome. I'm delighted to say that | :48:15. | :48:23. | |
the surgeon David Nott is also here with us. First of all, Tilly, you've | :48:24. | :48:34. | |
been through some difficult times. You're an incredibly brave little | :48:35. | :48:40. | |
girl. Thank you. Everybody who knows you has known that but now the rest | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
of us get to know it. What was it like going to be awards? Did you | :48:45. | :48:52. | |
know people knew how brave you are? She did. I expect people tell you | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
all the time. How does it make you feel? Happy. Tell us a bit more | :48:57. | :49:01. | |
because you've had to be brave as well. Yes, it's been really hard. | :49:02. | :49:08. | |
We've seen her in so much pain, go through a lot, so yes, 500 | :49:09. | :49:16. | |
operations. It is a lot. It is unimaginable. She is so brave. She | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
will go into the room and she will be laughing with the surgeons, she | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
loves the sleeping gas and she is really good. Is it true that you | :49:29. | :49:33. | |
worry more about how other people are than how you are? Yes. Why is | :49:34. | :49:41. | |
that? You just ask them. Make sure their OK. Make sure they have stuff. | :49:42. | :49:52. | |
That's very kind and thoughtful. She will talk to children if they are | :49:53. | :49:55. | |
scared about going into theatre. She will tell them there's nothing to be | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
worried about. She's made them cakes, when we've been in, and | :50:01. | :50:06. | |
handed them out. Just go round and make friends. Do you like to make | :50:07. | :50:13. | |
cakes? Cupcakes. What flavour do you like best? Chocolate. Do you want to | :50:14. | :50:22. | |
do that when you grown up? Making cakes would be good. You wanted to | :50:23. | :50:29. | |
be a nurse. It changes every week. Last week she wanted to be a pop | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
star. Now she wants to be a nurse again. I know something about you | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
wanting to be a pop star. Look at this? What was that like? It was | :50:39. | :50:46. | |
amazing, wasn't it? You are in a junior version of them. What do you | :50:47. | :50:55. | |
do? Sing. What was it like when you met them? Was it amazing? It must | :50:56. | :51:06. | |
have been a whirlwind, all of this, everybody knows what you've been | :51:07. | :51:10. | |
through and how amazing you been, to get this recognition, what does it | :51:11. | :51:17. | |
mean to you? It means the world. She is the bravest girl I know. For her | :51:18. | :51:23. | |
to be rewarded, for people to see her story, it's really amazing. Do | :51:24. | :51:34. | |
you know how brave you are? Just her! What does it mean going | :51:35. | :51:44. | |
forward? They still don't know. She is the only child in Britain that | :51:45. | :51:48. | |
has lived with those burns. There are still learning from her. Even if | :51:49. | :51:55. | |
she cannot walk far, that is OK with us. It is really great to meet you | :51:56. | :52:08. | |
both. Everybody was very emotional to see you there. It was good. Thank | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
you very much. You should be very proud. Also with me, David Nott. We | :52:14. | :52:25. | |
saw his story previously. His day job is one of the top vascular | :52:26. | :52:29. | |
surgeons in the country, spends a lot of time, your own time, unpaid, | :52:30. | :52:38. | |
going to war zones and disaster zones. That's why you've been | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
acknowledged. Congratulations. I should say that Carol Vorderman, | :52:43. | :52:56. | |
when she presented the award, cried. She has... I still maintain general | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
surgery and I do cancer surgery at another hospital. I was on call the | :53:02. | :53:10. | |
night Carol came in, she was very septic, she had a terrible | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
infection, and it required very careful treatment for her, putting | :53:16. | :53:29. | |
her on that. It was a very difficult operation and I still think about it | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
to this day, somebody who was a public figure, loved by the British | :53:35. | :53:37. | |
people on my operating table, and it's very stressful to do that sort | :53:38. | :53:45. | |
of procedure and it took five hours to do and it was a delight to see | :53:46. | :54:01. | |
her yesterday. You go from that to war zones, Bosnia, Iraq, Libya, | :54:02. | :54:10. | |
Sierra Leone, Syria... You are always travelling. What was it that | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
made you decide that was how you wanted to use your talents to good | :54:15. | :54:18. | |
effect? It started a long time ago when I become a consultant. I | :54:19. | :54:26. | |
watched the film called Killing Fields, and the surgeon doing under | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
duress, helping people, and I thought, I want to be the person | :54:33. | :54:37. | |
that can do that. I started in Sarajevo, it lit a fire in my heart. | :54:38. | :54:50. | |
I go off to places. I feel you can do so much by crossing that little | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
line, going across it to help people. It means so much to them. I | :54:56. | :55:07. | |
leave them with the legacy and that is what it is all about. You're | :55:08. | :55:15. | |
putting yourself into very dangerous environments. Tell us about some of | :55:16. | :55:23. | |
the experiences you've had. I know there was a time when you were | :55:24. | :55:27. | |
operating on a little girl and the advice was that you've got to leave | :55:28. | :55:31. | |
the hospital because you were in immediate danger. I was in Gaza and | :55:32. | :55:39. | |
there was a little girl who'd come in, terrible fragmentation wounds, | :55:40. | :55:46. | |
she was on my operating table and I was preparing her for surgery and | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
all of a sudden somebody came into the operating theatre and said, | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
you've got to go because the hospital is going to be blown up. I | :55:55. | :56:04. | |
thought, when I'd done this job for a long time, the passion for it, I | :56:05. | :56:14. | |
thought, I'm not going to leave her, I stood in the operating theatre, | :56:15. | :56:20. | |
everybody else went out, the anaesthetist looked at me and I | :56:21. | :56:24. | |
said, you can go, I'm staying. He said, I will stay with you. I | :56:25. | :56:32. | |
prepared her, he anaesthetised. I picked up a scalpel, started | :56:33. | :56:35. | |
operating, waiting for the time when it was all going to be over, but | :56:36. | :56:39. | |
amazingly, nothing happened, we waited and waited, and I was just | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
thinking, it'll happen any moment now, I finished off the operation | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
and the little girl did really well, three days later I had my photograph | :56:50. | :56:52. | |
taken with her and it was an absolute joy. That was what it was a | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
boat. You cannot leave those environments and leave everything | :56:59. | :57:03. | |
behind. What is the residue in you? The residue in me to go to these | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
places is such that I'm able to go and leave a legacy of training for | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
the doctors that are there, and I enjoy doing that, and it is a | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
passion and I cannot let it go, to be honest. There is another time | :57:19. | :57:21. | |
when you were operating on an Islamic State fighter and other | :57:22. | :57:27. | |
Islamic State fighters came into the operating theatre. Do you ever get | :57:28. | :57:34. | |
frightened? Of course I do! I have a strong Christian conviction and I | :57:35. | :57:37. | |
pray a lot, I don't pray all the time, but I sometimes talk to God. I | :57:38. | :57:46. | |
don't talk to him all the time but occasionally I need to go on the | :57:47. | :57:50. | |
right frequency to discuss things. That particular time, I was | :57:51. | :57:55. | |
operating in Aleppo and suddenly the doors of the operating theatre flew | :57:56. | :57:58. | |
open and a lot of Islamic State fighters came in because I was | :57:59. | :58:03. | |
operating on an Islamic State fighter. My legs turned to jelly, | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
and I thought, God, protect me here. This is a very difficult and | :58:10. | :58:15. | |
dangerous situation. I prayed and hoped, I concentrated on what I was | :58:16. | :58:21. | |
doing, they left after 20 minutes, the senior guy left after that, and | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
all was well. But it was a tense moment. This award is about | :58:28. | :58:33. | |
recognising your bravery. Does that cross your mind? I don't really | :58:34. | :58:41. | |
know. Obviously, what people feel about themselves is often different. | :58:42. | :58:46. | |
I don't feel like that, to be honest. It was a shock to receive | :58:47. | :58:51. | |
this award. It was a great thing to be able to do. My wife, who is my | :58:52. | :58:59. | |
best friend, she set up our foundation, and it goes out to | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
trained doctors all around the world, so it is a great legacy that | :59:04. | :59:09. | |
we are doing, and giving back to war zones and people like that. It is | :59:10. | :59:14. | |
absolutely great to be able to talk to you, David, and to both of you. I | :59:15. | :59:21. | |
want to read one e-mail, this person says, Tilly, you are a fantastic | :59:22. | :59:29. | |
little girl, you've been through a tremendous amount of suffering, and | :59:30. | :59:35. | |
you continue to be brave. And he says, David, an absolute hero and a | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
star. That sums it up, I think. Thank you for your company. The | :59:40. | :59:47. | |
Daily Mirror pride of Britain awards are on ITV tonight at 10pm. Now the | :59:48. | :59:54. | |
weather. How are things looking? We've had a lot of fog around, what | :59:55. | :00:02. | |
you will find is through the day it will lift into low cloud. The other | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
end of the country is beautiful and sunny. Really nice. It is confusing | :00:07. | :00:11. | |
what to wear at the moment. It will turn colder. | :00:12. | :00:21. | |
We are looking at this weather front, which is sinking South, a | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
line of demarcation between the old air and milder conditions in the | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
South. Dense fog across East Wales, and some southern counties. It will | :00:33. | :00:38. | |
lift into low cloud. It will be thick enough to produce spots of | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
rain or drizzle. To the north of it, we are looking at a cooler day, but | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
a sunny one, with a peppering of showers and some coastal gales. | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
Yesterday we hit 22.2 in West Wales, so the temperature is coming down. | :00:55. | :01:03. | |
It will continue to do so this evening and overnight as the weather | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
front clears. It will get rid of the cloud and the mist and fog. The wind | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
changes for north-westerly, which is a call direction, so a widespread | :01:14. | :01:21. | |
rural frost this evening. That is how we start tomorrow. There will be | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
crisp, autumnal sunshine around, if you showers in the North, if you | :01:28. | :01:32. | |
around the Irish Sea. It will be dry. The temperatures will be back | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
down. Britain under attack in cyberspace. | :01:37. | :01:40. | |
if you've just joined us. The Government warns of a growing | :01:41. | :01:47. | |
threat from hackers, criminals and foreign states | :01:48. | :01:49. | |
and says new measures are needed With up to 50,000 children | :01:50. | :01:53. | |
thought to miss school because of severe exhaustion, | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
we'll ask if a new therapy being And, Adele speaks candidly | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
about postnatal depression, saying it's left her scared | :02:04. | :02:09. | |
to have another baby. We'll ask if her honesty | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
will help other women. Here's the BBC Newsroom | :02:12. | :02:23. | |
with a summary of today's news. Elite Iraqi troops have entered | :02:24. | :02:29. | |
the outskirts of the city of Mosul, where they're engaging in fierce | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
fighting with Islamic State militants they're | :02:33. | :02:34. | |
trying to drive out. Government troops have been | :02:35. | :02:36. | |
advancing on Mosul from the south. They are part of a major offensive | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
which began more than two weeks ago. Our international correspondent | :02:40. | :02:43. | |
Ian Pannell and cameraman Darren Conway are travelling | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
with the Iraqi special forces, We are on the fringes of Mosul, not | :02:46. | :03:04. | |
into the city proper. Surrounded by armoured Humvees, thanks to my left, | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
there has been a lot of incoming fire, pinning down these troops. | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
They have been moving rather rapidly much faster than people expected. | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
There have been weapons fired out and some weapons fired in, rocket | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
propelled grenades, mortars, we know that snipers are out there as well, | :03:28. | :03:32. | |
and in the last few moments there was an aerial strike from coalition | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
jets. The air is thick with dust and the smell of smoke. It is a very | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
confused situation, but we are sitting still before they try and | :03:43. | :03:43. | |
get in to Mosul. Measures to protect the UK | :03:44. | :03:45. | |
from cyberattacks are being announced by the Government | :03:46. | :03:47. | |
in a new strategy backed up by The expected threats range | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
from foreign states to organised Chancellor Philip Hammond will give | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
details in a speech later. The initiative comes as two hospital | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
trusts in Lincolnshire said they have cancelled operations | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
after a computer virus caused A new therapy that a study suggests | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
can successfully treat two thirds of children with chronic fatigue | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
syndrome is being In England, up to one in 50 children | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
have the syndrome, The online treatment trial | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
will target more than 700 children and teenagers, | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
many of whom live too far away from the specialist services | :04:27. | :04:29. | |
which might help them recover. Campaigners say they'll keep | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
fighting for an inquiry into the clashes between miners | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
and police at Orgreave The Home Secretary Amber Rudd has | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
ruled a formal review out because there were no deaths | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
or wrongful convictions. Ms Rudd told MPs the incident | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
happened too long ago and that an inquiry was not | :04:49. | :04:50. | |
in the public interest. Those calling for a review | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
into the actions of the police condemned the decision | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
as an "establishment stitch-up". And we're expecting a news | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
conference later this morning from the Orgreave Truth | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
and Justice Campaign, The Metropolitan Police has agreed | :05:04. | :05:05. | |
to pay compensation to a gay man from London after it admitted it had | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
failed to properly investigate his David Cary, who's 54, | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
complained in 2007 that he'd been He sued the Met for discrimination | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
because it failed to treat That's a summary of | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
the latest BBC News. People look out for that news | :05:27. | :05:43. | |
conference and bring you coverage of it when it happens. | :05:44. | :05:45. | |
Do get in touch with us throughout the morning. | :05:46. | :05:47. | |
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The Women's Super League came to a close last weekend. | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
Manchester City Women were crowned champions after an incredible | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
16 games they played, winning 13 of them, | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
and conceding just four goals, thanks in part to my guests, | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
It was only two years ago that Manchester City Women | :06:08. | :06:15. | |
You won the League Cup in your debut season, | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
now you're winning the league and playing in the Champions League. | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
How has this incredible rise come about? | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
Through hard work and having a club that is so supportive of every | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
player, to try to give them the best chance of being the best player they | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
can be. I have been there for three years, the Amos to win as many | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
trophies as possible, and to be able to win a double this season is | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
unbelievable. I am so glad you have brought the trophy along. Tell us | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
about the club and the setup. You fully under the men's umbrella. It | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
seems to be bringing about results on the pitch. We get a lot of | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
support off the pitch from the whole club, we are treated the same as | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
anyone else, from the boys to the first team, we train on all the | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
pitches, we have the same staff members, a beautiful stadium, just | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
like the men, we get a lot of support, and it has helped us this | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
year and in previous years. It has set the standard for women's | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
football in the world, a lot of clubs will want to replicate | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
something similar. That is interesting, it was Arsenal that | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
dominated the women's game for so long. Is it your time now? Arsenal | :07:33. | :07:40. | |
were a great football club, we try to be like them, but now we are now | :07:41. | :07:47. | |
setting the standard, we full-time professionals, fantastic facilities, | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
everything a female footballer could want. We have been successful, and | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
now it is all about maintaining these trophies come up with a view | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
more to come. The queue row championships are coming up, you are | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
on an unbeaten run, nine games, so you must be feeling positive, | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
especially because you had such a great World Cup, finishing third? | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
Definitely. We just play differently against France, one of the teams to | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
beat, and we drew with them, we could have picked a winner in the | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
end. We are getting good results, it is good confidence. We topped our | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
group. The draw is next week, so hopefully we get an exciting draw. | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
Loads of friendlies coming up next year, so we will be the best paired | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
we have ever been for a tournament, so hopefully that brings success. | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
You are playing the hosts, the Netherlands, at the end of next | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
month, so all the best for that. The Champions League coming up next | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
week, so all the best for that as well. | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
It's a little-understood condition which can have devastating effects. | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
Chronic fatigue syndrome, also known as ME, is thought | :08:56. | :08:58. | |
to affect one in 50 children, leading to mental-health | :08:59. | :09:00. | |
Those affected suffer from severe exhaustion and often struggle | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
Now, a therapy that successfully treats two thirds of children | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
with chronic fatigue syndrome is being trialled for NHS use. | :09:11. | :09:14. | |
The trial will use a form of behavioural therapy to adjust | :09:15. | :09:19. | |
Let's talk now to Professor Esther Crawley in Bristol, | :09:20. | :09:25. | |
who is leading this trial, Mary-Jane Willows, | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
from the charity AYME, which supports young ME sufferers, | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Lizzie Horgan, who was diagnosed last year with ME and has since been | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
able to return to work after receiving CBT treatment, | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
and Jane Colby, the executive director of Tymes Trust, | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
which helps young CFS sufferers, and who does not agree that this | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
is the right form of treatment for the condition. | :09:51. | :09:59. | |
You were diagnosed, a year ago, tell us what happened. I was diagnosed | :10:00. | :10:15. | |
last March. At the very end of February was when my symptoms | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
reached a peak. I became really unwell and I was diagnosed in March. | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
What were the symptoms? I have been feeling incredibly exhausted, | :10:28. | :10:29. | |
despite living a really healthy lifestyle, I love my job, my social | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
life, going to the gym, and despite trying to find every single way to | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
boost my energy levels, every day I was waking up feeling completely | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
un-arrested after sleep. That is how it began. I started to feel faint, | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
noxious and dizzy. I suffered with brain fog, I struggled to put my | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
thoughts in order. I was terrified I had no idea what was happening to | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
me. I came home after work one day with an incessant muscle ache, I | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
went to bed, I woke up in the morning and went to my bathroom and | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
passed out. My mum came in and found me. I was unable to but any coherent | :11:10. | :11:18. | |
thought together. I found it really difficult to move my limbs with any | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
ease at all. You have to stop work. Straightaway. I was devastated. Look | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
at you now. What happened? You had CBT. Both at the first form of | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
treatment you had? The first thing I did was to cut back on everything I | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
was doing, I had no choice but to lie in bed, sitting up in bed was | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
enough to make me incredibly notions and faint and dizzy. I was told | :11:53. | :12:02. | |
about CBT by my GP. At first I was quite reluctant, because I could not | :12:03. | :12:04. | |
understand how something that I thought of as behavioural was going | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
to help illness that is so obvious as being biological. The CBT really | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
helped me to distinguish a difference between myself and the | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
illness. I was lazy with an illness, it was not a part of who I was. -- | :12:22. | :12:30. | |
Lizzie. And it helped me manage the boom and bust cycle, you feel so | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
guilty about doing nothing, as soon as you feel a tiny bit better, you | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
plan to do things, and you end up back at square one. You end up in | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
this horrible pattern where your symptoms gradually become worse. | :12:44. | :12:45. | |
Professor Crawley, you are heading up this study, what is your goal? | :12:46. | :12:57. | |
Indications are this can help two thirds of people. Why does it work? | :12:58. | :13:06. | |
What a perfect description from Lizzie about this awful illness. | :13:07. | :13:13. | |
What we do is we work very hard to change both the sleep and the | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
activity that people do. It has a potent biological effect. View | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
change sleep, you change how the brain produces cortisol, you change | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
the hormones and a lot of biology for that person. With changing them | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
doing a lot of exercise one day and not much the next, that seems to be | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
extremely effective. It is much more effective in children than in | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
adults. The tragedy in the UK, most children do not have access to | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
treatment. The implications when you talk about CBT, that it might | :13:47. | :13:55. | |
indicate that it has psychological causes rather than biological, but | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
what you are describing is talking about changing the chemicals in your | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
body as a result of changing your behaviour, somehow does the jigsaw | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
fit together? I think it is a biological illness, we know that | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
children are vulnerable to getting it, so we know it runs in families, | :14:16. | :14:18. | |
identical twins are much more likely to get it than siblings. In children | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
in particular it is triggered by a virus or bacterial infection. The | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
evidence is it is not a particular book that is important, but how bad | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
the infection is. That feels quite biological to me. It is true that | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
the illness is so devastating and awful for teenagers that about a | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
third end up getting fed up and anxious. My surprise when I see how | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
will these children are, it is not more than that. Why does it work in | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
some people but not in others? We think the syndrome is several | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
different illnesses with different underlying biology and different | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
mechanisms. The message that is really important is that teenagers | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
have the right to different types of treatment. What we need to do is | :15:06. | :15:12. | |
find out which treatments are effective, said teenagers throughout | :15:13. | :15:15. | |
the UK can have access to anything that might help them. You don't like | :15:16. | :15:27. | |
this idea of CBT treatment. Why is that? I love think it as simple as | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
that. The fact someone has got a serious physical illness, I've been | :15:35. | :15:44. | |
there myself as a result of complications, they are completely | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
bedridden, may be hardly able to eat or move or have to be tube fed, | :15:48. | :15:51. | |
seriously ill people, and if you give people like that some kind of | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
CBT which encourages them to feel their illness belief is wrong, which | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
tends to happen with a number of people who deliver CBT, you | :16:01. | :16:14. | |
encourage them to do too much. They are dealing with this and MP was | :16:15. | :16:23. | |
initially defined as an illness were making a little bit of effort would | :16:24. | :16:29. | |
make you a lot worse. -- ME. It was defined as very variable with an | :16:30. | :16:32. | |
alarming tendency to become chronic and that has been backed up by the | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
American Institute of medicine. I think people who've got these | :16:38. | :16:42. | |
classic cases of very severe ME are different from those who have other | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
types of fatiguing illness. The umbrella is pulling in people with | :16:45. | :16:53. | |
these classic illnesses which is not a mixture of illnesses. We know this | :16:54. | :17:05. | |
is heterogeneous. You need to be very careful what you are doing with | :17:06. | :17:07. | |
the patient selection. You've had CBT yourself. What do you | :17:08. | :17:26. | |
think about it? I am the chief executive of this organisation and | :17:27. | :17:29. | |
nobody is saying it will help everybody. We are seeing the | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
opposite. The previous study helped 68% and if we could achieve anything | :17:34. | :17:37. | |
like that it would be something. What would be wrong would be to not | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
deliver anything to those children whilst we wait to find out more. If | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
we could help 60% of children we should go ahead and do that. Of | :17:50. | :17:55. | |
course we need more research but this is not targeted as those, many | :17:56. | :18:05. | |
of those I support, I go to their homes, help them get medical care | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
and treatment. It is devastating, but these children are the ones that | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
can access CBT. Do you think if treatment was done early enough it | :18:18. | :18:24. | |
might stop those kids who end up bedridden, or is it effectively a | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
completely different strain of the disease? We don't know the answer to | :18:30. | :18:39. | |
that but if we can offer treatment earlier we. Children getting really | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
sick. To come back on something Jane said, she implied doing CBT made | :18:45. | :18:50. | |
children do more. Children with chronic fatigue syndrome, most of | :18:51. | :18:54. | |
the ones who come, it is exactly what she says, we are trying to stop | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
them from being in this position, and that varies depending on how | :19:01. | :19:07. | |
severe they are. Children with chronic fatigue syndrome want to get | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
back to school and get back to their life, we should be offering | :19:13. | :19:16. | |
treatment throughout the UK. Responding to that, does that | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
persuade you? I can see the point cheesemaking. That's not the point | :19:22. | :19:29. | |
I'm making. I'm seeing if these children and their parents are told | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
this is probably going to help and then it doesn't help, they are not | :19:33. | :19:39. | |
believed very often. What is happening but we see happening a | :19:40. | :19:43. | |
lot, unfortunately, is when this doesn't improve the condition, then | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
the parent gets accused of making the child ill, or the child is made | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
to feel it is their fault. It leads to these erroneous | :19:55. | :20:10. | |
allegations of child abuse against the parents. We have seen many cases | :20:11. | :20:17. | |
of this and not one of them has been proven to be child abuse. This | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
happens when psychological treatment is given and it does not work. We | :20:23. | :20:33. | |
are almost out of time. We support those families as well. My belief is | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
it comes from a lack of awareness and understanding and hopefully | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
programmes like this will raise awareness and understanding because | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
at the moment teachers and GPs and families do not understand it and | :20:48. | :20:50. | |
these cases are happening but in the meantime we need to help children | :20:51. | :20:57. | |
and young people. We've got to go to that news conference. Campaigners | :20:58. | :21:07. | |
seeking judicial review of the decision to rule out an enquiry. The | :21:08. | :21:14. | |
truth and Justice campaign are holding a news conference right now | :21:15. | :21:15. | |
and we can go there alive. I don't know what's been said | :21:16. | :21:30. | |
already so I may be repeating some of the things but the news yesterday | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
was devastating and shocking. We've tried and tried to get advance | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
notice of that announcement and the Home Office would not play ball with | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
us at all. They've treated us in a disgraceful way, after the meeting | :21:47. | :21:53. | |
in September which we regarded as positive and constructive, we came | :21:54. | :22:01. | |
out of that on a high, thinking we were going to get something. A | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
couple of days later we received an e-mail from Nicky Burgess, and | :22:07. | :22:15. | |
Barada's Private secretary, very positive, -- Amber Rudd's private | :22:16. | :22:21. | |
secretary. It said how interesting it was to hear the stories and how | :22:22. | :22:29. | |
impressed Amber Rudd was... We unfortunately have a technical issue | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
with our line to that news conference. We will try to fix it | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
and go back as soon as we can. That news conference under way into that | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
position for the not to be an enquiry into what happened at | :22:43. | :22:57. | |
Orgreave. Now to American politics. Hillary Clinton says she is | :22:58. | :23:02. | |
confident an FBI investigation will find she has no case to answer. | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
Opinion polls suggest this announcement has boosted support for | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
Donald Trump. Here is what we know. What does this disgraced congressmen | :23:09. | :23:29. | |
have to do with Hillary Clinton's chance of winning the White House, | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
it comes down to one thing, e-mails. This is when she was the top | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
diplomat. She was offered an official e-mail address. She decided | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
not to use it. She instead used her personal e-mail through a private | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
server. She says it was all a matter of convenience and that that was | :23:50. | :23:56. | |
easier, using one e-mail account on one smartphone. It would have been | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
better if I'd simply used a second e-mail account and carried a second | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
phone that at the time this did not seem like an issue. But it's against | :24:05. | :24:09. | |
state Department protocol because government e-mails are considered | :24:10. | :24:12. | |
official documents and they need to be archived. Another concern about | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
this was whether Hillary Clinton was, by using her personal e-mail | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
server, compromising government secrets. There is evidence they were | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive classified | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
information. The FBI cleared her of criminal charges but that's not the | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
end of it. It comes back to the sky, the disgraced congressmen. They | :24:39. | :24:56. | |
found e-mails belonging to his wife. She is the Democratic nominee's top | :24:57. | :25:03. | |
aide. The FBI are investigating the e-mails. We don't know if these are | :25:04. | :25:13. | |
linked to Hillary Clinton but either way, e-mails are dominating the | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
campaign. Let's take you back to the news | :25:18. | :25:40. | |
conference. Seriously injured at Orgreave. So long as she didn't die, | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
that's OK. She said there had been no miscarriage of justice. What was | :25:48. | :25:58. | |
the trial about? There was a third thing that I just cannot think what | :25:59. | :26:09. | |
it is. Had there been no convictions? There were no | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
convictions because the trial collapsed. The state had their | :26:15. | :26:22. | |
opportunity to prove miners were violent and they failed. So we've | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
regarded the campaign is our opportunity to prove police | :26:29. | :26:43. | |
violence. I was shocked, I was devastated, and I really pressed her | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
on what she was saying to me. In a way you're just going through the | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
motions because they will not change their mind. You are just holding the | :26:55. | :27:10. | |
line in some way. But I got robbed from Channel 4 who was waiting in my | :27:11. | :27:17. | |
living room. And Tom who was there from look North. I was aware that | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
the media were downstairs and none of this was anticipating I would | :27:21. | :27:26. | |
receive that phone call whilst the media was there. I was desperate to | :27:27. | :27:38. | |
get off the phone without crying in front of Amber Rudd. This has been | :27:39. | :27:52. | |
for years of hard work -- four years of hard work, it has taken over our | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
lives. We've driven this issue from nothing on to the deaths of two home | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
secretaries. We started off under a coalition government, now we are | :28:02. | :28:11. | |
under a Tory led government. We've survived a change of Home Secretary | :28:12. | :28:13. | |
from Theresa May to Amber arrived and you've got to keep rebuilding | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
relationships -- trees are to Amber Rudd. We've survived three changes | :28:21. | :28:28. | |
Shadow Home Secretary as well from Yvette Cooper to Andy Burnham and | :28:29. | :28:35. | |
Diane Abbott. The campaign is still standing. | :28:36. | :28:49. | |
That is Barbara Jackson speaking on behalf of those who want there to be | :28:50. | :28:59. | |
an enquiry into the violence between police and striking miners at | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
Orgreave. Seeking a judicial review of the government decision not to go | :29:04. | :29:09. | |
ahead with an enquiry. Let's bring you some breaking news about the | :29:10. | :29:17. | |
situation in Mosul. We've been telling you that Iraqi troops have | :29:18. | :29:22. | |
entered and there are reports coming through that on Monday, Islamic | :29:23. | :29:33. | |
State troops tried to take civilians from one area to Mosul. 25,000 | :29:34. | :29:47. | |
civilians tried to be taken on Monday but they were partly | :29:48. | :29:59. | |
prevented by coalition aircraft. Spokesman saying there were reports | :30:00. | :30:09. | |
of mass killings around Mosul. A reporter is on the move with Iraqi | :30:10. | :30:16. | |
troops, embedded with them. We heard that Iraqi troops have entered Mosul | :30:17. | :30:22. | |
but, separately, we are getting word from the United Nations about what | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
Islamic State has been doing, and there are more reports of killings | :30:26. | :30:33. | |
around Mosul and that report of an attempt to take 25,000 civilians | :30:34. | :30:40. | |
forcibly into Mosul. They were partly prevented but that implies | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
some civilians were taken in. Obviously a large number inside. We | :30:45. | :30:46. | |
will keep you updated. The Chief of MI5 warns | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
against Russia's "increasingly aggressive ways" | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
involving espionage, Adele has opened up about her battle | :30:54. | :30:56. | |
with postnatal depression after the birth of her son | :30:57. | :31:01. | |
Angelo, saying it left We'll ask if her honesty | :31:02. | :31:04. | |
will help other women. We will talk to some women who have | :31:05. | :31:17. | |
experience of the condition. Let us know your thoughts as well. | :31:18. | :31:19. | |
With the news, here's Annita in the BBC Newsroom. | :31:20. | :31:21. | |
Elite Iraqi troops have entered the outskirts of the city of Mosul, | :31:22. | :31:24. | |
where they're engaging in fierce fighting with Islamic | :31:25. | :31:26. | |
Government troops have been advancing on Mosul from the south. | :31:27. | :31:33. | |
The United Nations have received reports of mass killings by Islamic | :31:34. | :31:38. | |
State around the city. Government troops have been | :31:39. | :31:40. | |
advancing on Mosul from the south. They are part of a major offensive | :31:41. | :31:43. | |
which began more than two weeks ago. Our international correspondent | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
Ian Pannell and cameraman Darren Conway are travelling | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
with the Iraqi special forces, We are on the fringes of Mosul, not | :31:49. | :32:01. | |
into the city proper. I am surrounded by armoured Humvees, | :32:02. | :32:03. | |
thanks to my left, there has been a lot of incoming fire from the | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
Islamic State position, pinning down these troops. They have been moving | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
rather rapidly into cities much faster than many people had | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
expected. A lot of weapons fired out, and some fired in, rocket | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
propelled grenades, mortars, snipers are out there as well. In the last | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
few moments, there was an aerial strike from coalition jets. The air | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
is thick with dust and the smell of smoke will stop it is a confused | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
situation, but we are sitting still before they try to get into Mosul. | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
Measures to protect the UK from cyber attacks are being | :32:43. | :32:44. | |
announced by the government in a new strategy, backed up | :32:45. | :32:48. | |
by nearly ?2 billion worth of funding. | :32:49. | :32:50. | |
The expected threats range from foreign states to organised | :32:51. | :32:52. | |
Chancellor Philip Hammond will give details in a speech later. | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
The initiative comes as two hospital trusts in Lincolnshire said | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
they have cancelled operations after a computer virus caused | :33:01. | :33:03. | |
A new therapy that a study suggests can successfully treat two thirds | :33:04. | :33:09. | |
of children with chronic fatigue syndrome is being | :33:10. | :33:12. | |
In England, up to one in 50 children have the syndrome, | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
The online treatment trial will target more than 700 | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
children and teenagers, many of whom live too far away | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
from the specialist services which might help them recover. | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
A major teaching hospital in London is to be placed | :33:31. | :33:33. | |
in to special measures, after inspectors rated the NHS Trust | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
as inadequate when it came to safety and leadership. | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
Criticisms of St George's University Hospitals included | :33:41. | :33:43. | |
poor infection control, operating theatres in disrepair | :33:44. | :33:46. | |
and a danger that water could become contaminated. | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
It will become the 18th NHS Trust to be in special | :33:51. | :33:52. | |
A gang of bikers has caused traffic chaos during a Halloween ride around | :33:53. | :34:01. | |
The group of around 50 off-road motorcycles and quad bikes | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
brought Kirkstall Road, a major route into Leeds, | :34:06. | :34:07. | |
Witnesses posted videos on Twitter and described the scenes | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
as being similar to those in the Mel Gibson film Mad Max. | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
Police closed the road until the group had dispersed. | :34:16. | :34:21. | |
That's a summary of the latest news, join me for BBC | :34:22. | :34:24. | |
Jockey Freddie Tylicki remains in intensive care with suspected | :34:25. | :34:33. | |
spinal injuries after a fall at Kempton yesterday. | :34:34. | :34:37. | |
The champion jockey Jim Crowley was also hurt, but has since been | :34:38. | :34:41. | |
The English, Welsh and Scottish FAs are in talks with Fifa over | :34:42. | :34:48. | |
whether players can wear poppies on their shirts, like those seen | :34:49. | :34:51. | |
here in the Premier League at the weekend, for their World Cup | :34:52. | :34:54. | |
The game's world governing body bans political, | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
Wilfied Bony scored his first two goals for Stoke, | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
as they beat his struggling former club Swansea 3-1 in | :35:04. | :35:06. | |
Bob Bradley's side remain deep in the relegation zone, | :35:07. | :35:10. | |
without a win since the opening day of the season. | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
And Wales' rugby-union captain Sam Warburton is out | :35:14. | :35:21. | |
of their opening autumn Test against Australia | :35:22. | :35:23. | |
Justin Tipuric is likely to replace him for the first match | :35:24. | :35:26. | |
More sport on the BBC News channel through the day. | :35:27. | :35:38. | |
The chief of MI5 has warned that Russia is adopting an "increasingly | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
aggressive" approach to pursuing its foreign policy | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
goals, including propaganda, spying and cyberattacks. | :35:45. | :35:45. | |
In an interview with the Guardian newspaper, the security | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
service's director general Andrew Parker said Russia had been | :35:49. | :35:50. | |
a "covert threat" for decades but there were now more methods | :35:51. | :35:54. | |
This is really interesting, what is he saying? The job of MI5 for | :35:55. | :36:14. | |
decades is to hunt for spies, look at what foreign intelligence | :36:15. | :36:16. | |
services are trying to do in Britain. It has done that | :36:17. | :36:21. | |
traditionally for a long time, but Andrew Parker is pointing to | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
increasingly aggressive Russian spying, using different techniques. | :36:25. | :36:30. | |
Russia has always spied on Britain, but if you things have changed. | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
Cyberspace, the ability to reach into businesses and Government in a | :36:34. | :36:40. | |
different way, because of the Internet, to steal secrets. That is | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
traditional espionage done in a new way. We have also seen more | :36:45. | :36:47. | |
aggressive Russian behaviour in the last few years. Not so much in | :36:48. | :36:53. | |
Britain, and in other countries, where they have used cyber attacks | :36:54. | :36:56. | |
to switch off power in some countries. We have seen it in the | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
American election, allegedly to hack the e-mails of Hillary Clinton and | :37:03. | :37:06. | |
see them released. Using intelligence and information more | :37:07. | :37:08. | |
aggressively as well as doing more of it using cyberspace. It is naive | :37:09. | :37:13. | |
to think that this does not go on, but why is it going on? You have | :37:14. | :37:20. | |
given some examples. Espionage has gone on through the ages. The bit | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
about stealing secrets has been going on for a long time, and is | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
done by Britain and America, we try to steal Russian secrets, they try | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
similar techniques. Where it is different is we have seen this more | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
aggressive use of spying and technology, releasing information, | :37:40. | :37:41. | |
hacking systems to take them off-line. That is emblematic of the | :37:42. | :37:48. | |
poor relations between the West and Russia recently. It shows, a lot of | :37:49. | :37:54. | |
analysts believe, Russia pushing to see how far it can go to see what it | :37:55. | :37:59. | |
can do to disrupt and cause trouble. And to use it as a tool of its wider | :38:00. | :38:04. | |
interests to assert its own power and the Minish id adversaries. This | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
has become used more aggressively, especially in the last couple of | :38:10. | :38:16. | |
years by Russia, as relations have deteriorated. How good are and what | :38:17. | :38:19. | |
authorities at protecting us? That is what this announcement is about | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
today. Philip Hammond talking about building defences better, GCHQ and | :38:27. | :38:34. | |
its new national centre defending businesses and Government at scale | :38:35. | :38:36. | |
better, increasing the skills in the country, so we have more people | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
capable of doing the defence, and raising public awareness, because | :38:43. | :38:44. | |
some attacks will come through people clicking on an e-mail, not | :38:45. | :38:48. | |
updating their computer systems, so there is a role for businesses and | :38:49. | :38:52. | |
people to try and defend themselves better against some of the cyber | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
attacks which come from all kinds of countries and actors, criminals as | :38:56. | :39:01. | |
well as states. I will speak later to somebody from a hospital which is | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
currently under cyber attack and it is causing all sorts of problems | :39:06. | :39:10. | |
there. And I will talk to a cyber security expert. | :39:11. | :39:14. | |
And, the Government says the UK will strike back if it comes under cyber | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
attack. As I mentioned, we will talk a bit more about the package of | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
measures that Gordon mentioned to defend against hackers and online | :39:24. | :39:29. | |
threats. Stay with us for that. Let us know if you have had any | :39:30. | :39:34. | |
experiences of anything like that. Two school friends have become an | :39:35. | :39:36. | |
Internet sensation after they created some special Halloween | :39:37. | :39:44. | |
costumes. One of them, Jewish, and another, a Muslim, teamed up and | :39:45. | :39:48. | |
gained tens of thousands of likes and retweet. One of the fathers said | :39:49. | :39:58. | |
how proud he was of them. My daughter is 13. Her friend is | :39:59. | :40:06. | |
also 13. She has been raised Jewish, her friend is raised Muslim. For | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
Halloween they decided to be the Juslims. It was not a political or | :40:12. | :40:16. | |
social statement or a stance. It was not in the name of ridges pride or | :40:17. | :40:18. | |
America's diversity... Lot of you getting in touch on the | :40:19. | :41:30. | |
conversation about CBT and is being used to treat ME. Barbara says, CBT | :41:31. | :41:39. | |
and nice thoughts are not the answer, it is more about attention | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
to relaxation, like time away from mobile phones, which drains brain | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
energy. Margaret says, so pleased this condition is being discussed, | :41:50. | :41:53. | |
my daughter suffered in 1990. She spent six months in bed or stop at | :41:54. | :41:59. | |
that time it was not recognised as the debilitating condition it is, | :42:00. | :42:03. | |
and it was an extremely worrying time, as support. Available. Mark | :42:04. | :42:09. | |
says, this suggests it is in the mind and not a physical illness. | :42:10. | :42:14. | |
This infuriates sufferers. One person says, I have had it since I | :42:15. | :42:19. | |
was a teenager, but nothing was that for me. I was tired all the time as | :42:20. | :42:23. | |
a child and young adults but was told I was just lazy and stupid. I | :42:24. | :42:29. | |
would like to know if there is going to be any help for people who only | :42:30. | :42:32. | |
found out recently that they have the illness. Keep your comments | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
coming through. Also on the next conversation. | :42:38. | :42:38. | |
Adele has revealed that she suffered with post-natal depression | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
after giving birth to her son four years ago. | :42:45. | :42:46. | |
She says that at the time it made her feel like she'd made | :42:47. | :42:49. | |
the worst decision of her life, even though she was | :42:50. | :42:51. | |
And that the experience has now left her "too scared" | :42:52. | :42:55. | |
Speaking candidly to Vanity Fair magazine, the usually-private singer | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
The 28-year-old songstress says she managed to deal with the | :43:00. | :43:25. | |
mental-health problem by taking time out for herself | :43:26. | :43:28. | |
and after her partner advised her to talk to other mothers. | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
Adele admits that the depression "lifted" once she confided | :43:35. | :43:36. | |
in a friend who had a child and realised she wasn't alone. | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
Jessica suffered with postnatal depression after she had her first | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
child for years ago. She has set up an online group to help other | :43:48. | :43:50. | |
mothers. Bethany had postnatal depression with her first son and | :43:51. | :43:54. | |
antenatal depression with her second child. Amanda is a consultant | :43:55. | :44:01. | |
perinatal psychotherapist, the clinical lead for payment and infant | :44:02. | :44:05. | |
mental health services at North East London NHS Foundation Trust. | :44:06. | :44:11. | |
Jessica, you had a difficult experience yourself. When you hear | :44:12. | :44:15. | |
Adele talking about this, does it give you some comfort? Yes, it helps | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
that it is in the spotlight, because as she says, a lot of people don't | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
talk about it. Sometimes it is to be. I am glad that she is speaking | :44:27. | :44:32. | |
out about it. I am quite open about my experience will stop it helps | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
other mothers when I talk to them about my experience. You said it is | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
still to be. Like with anything which is common, it is strange to | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
think that it is so little talked about. Why did you think it is? What | :44:48. | :44:52. | |
are the pressures on new mothers and the difficulties in raising a flag | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
when it is difficult? You are expected to know what to do, to curb | :44:57. | :45:06. | |
straightaway. I felt I was a strong person, I never thought I would get | :45:07. | :45:13. | |
anything like that. I doubted I had anything, I doubted I was up for | :45:14. | :45:16. | |
four months until I finally accepted it. I did not tell anybody about it. | :45:17. | :45:24. | |
I felt almost ashamed that I felt angry and my child, because my child | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
would not sleep or feed properly, and rip at myself, almost like a | :45:29. | :45:30. | |
mother. What was your experiences? I'm | :45:31. | :45:43. | |
pretty much in agreement with everything you said. I felt like I | :45:44. | :45:46. | |
had to be perfect at something I'd never done before. I had a high | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
needs baby who cried, had colic, it was a struggle and if you don't have | :45:51. | :45:56. | |
friends who are in the same position as you, you're on your own. It's | :45:57. | :46:04. | |
hard. There was very little support for me when I had my first son. It's | :46:05. | :46:13. | |
hard. You've got this tiny little baby and you should be overjoyed | :46:14. | :46:19. | |
with it, and actually you are tired, you cannot wash your hair without | :46:20. | :46:22. | |
your baby crying, you feel like you're failing. It needs to be | :46:23. | :46:28. | |
talked about more. Mums need to talk to each other. It is normal. I | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
thought it was something someone else gets. Actually, it's a mental | :46:33. | :46:39. | |
health problem. It's something everybody else can get. Regardless | :46:40. | :46:51. | |
of background or will you come from. And Adel talking about it is the | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
point you're making. What do you think about that? Anything that can | :46:56. | :47:07. | |
lessen a mother's sense of shame, somehow feeling in a way they should | :47:08. | :47:16. | |
not feel, the guilt, also, what is so helpful for mothers is not to | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
feel isolated. I think it's such a common problem. When you were | :47:24. | :47:27. | |
talking about having a high needs baby, they've got such overwhelming | :47:28. | :47:31. | |
emotions, if you are on your own, struggling to try and make sense of | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
how your baby is communicating, it can feel really heartbreaking. I | :47:37. | :47:41. | |
think those points have been well made about the isolation. The other | :47:42. | :47:48. | |
thing Adele said is interesting, but one in particular, when she said, | :47:49. | :47:55. | |
when she started speaking about it she discovered she had for friends | :47:56. | :48:00. | |
-- four friends who were going through it, if you start assuming | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
everyone else is fine, you will never find out you're all | :48:06. | :48:13. | |
experiencing the same thing. You are nodding. When you started speaking, | :48:14. | :48:21. | |
did you find that? I felt isolated, and when I came back from the | :48:22. | :48:27. | |
doctor, I set up a Facebook group for local mums for support in | :48:28. | :48:35. | |
general, with raising children, and out of that there was a group for | :48:36. | :48:46. | |
mums like me suffering from postnatal depression. I found out I | :48:47. | :48:54. | |
was not strange, other people, they came up and talked to me, I thought | :48:55. | :49:07. | |
I was struggling but it is good to know there was another one out | :49:08. | :49:16. | |
there. We did not need to talk about how we were struggling today. One of | :49:17. | :49:27. | |
the other things Adele said helped was giving herself an afternoon off | :49:28. | :49:33. | |
a week from the baby and one friend said, don't you feel bad about it, | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
and she said, yes, but not as bad as if I did not have that time off. | :49:39. | :49:48. | |
What would your advice be to that? There is that saying that it takes | :49:49. | :49:56. | |
five adults to raise a child, that family context, being able to share | :49:57. | :50:04. | |
the responsibility is really important. Thinking about the | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
isolation, if you don't feel you've got that really strong family system | :50:10. | :50:24. | |
to support the mother, it's really difficult. I think Adele is talking | :50:25. | :50:27. | |
about her situation but in the service were I work, we get | :50:28. | :50:37. | |
thousands of referrals. We cannot accept all those referrals but we | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
can accept a great deal of them and the point I'm making, that is 10% of | :50:43. | :50:50. | |
the women being identified and that is not as many as are out there. | :50:51. | :51:01. | |
They are getting some very good psychological treatments which they | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
deserve to have access to, sometimes antidepressants medication can be | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
very helpful. The less it is stigmatised and the more mothers | :51:12. | :51:15. | |
feel able to say they are feeling ill at a time when they need to be | :51:16. | :51:24. | |
there for their baby, she needs to have prompt referral, it should not | :51:25. | :51:36. | |
be left to community support. It's great to talk to you all. Thank you | :51:37. | :51:43. | |
for sharing your advice. Gratitude to Adele for sharing her experience | :51:44. | :51:54. | |
and standing up to the stigma. One person says it is nice to hear this | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
get coverage. They had never heard it was a real condition and so they | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
just felt like a terrible mother. This would be very helpful to many | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
mothers. Thank you to those comments. As the government prepares | :52:09. | :52:15. | |
to unveil measures about cyber attacks, one hospital trust is being | :52:16. | :52:22. | |
affected right now. They've been forced to cancel procedures after | :52:23. | :52:27. | |
they were hit by a cyber attack. We can speak to the medical director. | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
We've got to speak to him on the phone because his video line from | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
the hospital has been taken out in the attack. Tell us when it started | :52:39. | :52:46. | |
and what it is doing. This started on Sunday evening when we started to | :52:47. | :52:53. | |
notice several pieces of our software did not work, they were | :52:54. | :53:03. | |
getting slower and slower. We got our IT teams in and they thought it | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
could be a virus so we brought in a cyber team to look through the | :53:09. | :53:13. | |
software and they were able to establish that yes, indeed, we did | :53:14. | :53:21. | |
have a virus. On the recommendation from our experts, to clean this | :53:22. | :53:28. | |
effectively we would have to shut down virtually every piece of IT | :53:29. | :53:33. | |
software throughout the organisation. We spent most of | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
yesterday working out what that would mean and late yesterday | :53:39. | :53:41. | |
morning we started shutting down just about everything so they could | :53:42. | :53:52. | |
start cleaning it. Is there any suggestion about who would attack | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
the hospital and why? Our priority is getting the system back up and | :53:57. | :54:08. | |
running. As I understand it, viruses may be released into the Internet | :54:09. | :54:13. | |
and spin around all the time. Whether we've been directly targeted | :54:14. | :54:21. | |
or just unlucky, we don't know at the moment. Clearly that will be | :54:22. | :54:25. | |
something of huge interest once we get our position recovered but at | :54:26. | :54:30. | |
the moment it is not clear where this has come from, the exact point | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
of origin. Thank you for joining us, hope you get it all up and running | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
as quickly as possible. It indicates how dependent we all are on | :54:41. | :54:48. | |
computers. The top story, Iraqi forces have entered Mosul. Our | :54:49. | :54:55. | |
defence correspondent is here. Donovan. -- Jonathan, tell us what | :54:56. | :55:04. | |
is going on with Mosul because we know the Iraqi forces have gone in. | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
We are separately hearing from the United Nations about what is | :55:09. | :55:19. | |
happening on the ground. What we now Noel is -- what we know is they've | :55:20. | :55:21. | |
entered the eastern limit of the city. This is one unit. There are | :55:22. | :55:27. | |
lots of Iraqi units around. Some of them have advanced further. What | :55:28. | :55:36. | |
we're hearing is the fighting is intensifying, as you would expect. | :55:37. | :55:52. | |
The US has offered concerns about families being taken as human | :55:53. | :56:03. | |
shields. They will use civilians as the fighting enters the city. It | :56:04. | :56:07. | |
will be much harder than we've seen before. They will surround the city, | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
the defences will be much tougher to breach as well. They will be | :56:12. | :56:15. | |
roadside bombs, there will be suicide bombs, the fighting will | :56:16. | :56:28. | |
intensify. How close will this contact be? You can expect it will | :56:29. | :56:39. | |
be clearing streets. In that situation it is much harder to | :56:40. | :56:43. | |
fight. You'd expect them to take more casualties. The question is, | :56:44. | :56:49. | |
can they sustain the fight? That intensified fight inside the city. | :56:50. | :56:55. | |
That is one of the concerns about the logistics, the weapons they | :56:56. | :57:02. | |
have, the tanks reuse. Clearly, it will be a more difficult job. You've | :57:03. | :57:14. | |
recently been embedded yourself. Yes, you've got to look at the | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
Golden division brigade. The special forces are elite troops. Not all the | :57:19. | :57:26. | |
Iraqi forces are going to be in the same state. There will be questions | :57:27. | :57:35. | |
when other units reach the city limits. What we've seen in the past | :57:36. | :57:42. | |
with Iraqis, these special forces tend to push away into the city | :57:43. | :57:48. | |
centre and then ran out to clear the area. This is going to take some | :57:49. | :57:55. | |
time. You can expect it to take much longer depending on whether they | :57:56. | :58:05. | |
flee. Remember, this is the last major city that Islamic State have | :58:06. | :58:12. | |
held. The question is whether they will fight to the last man. Thank | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
you. Plenty of coverage of that coming up. That is coming up next. | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
Thank you for your company today. We will hopefully see you at the same | :58:23. | :58:23. | |
time tomorrow. He's a scientist, | :58:24. | :58:32. | |
brilliant apparently. | :58:33. | :58:34. |