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Good afternoon, welcome to MOTD 2 Extra

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on BBC Two, 5 live and the BBC Sport website.

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former Newcastle manager John Carver,

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Burnley goalkeeper Paul Robinson and journalist Andy Dunn.

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Use the hashtag #bbcfootball on social media, or text 85058

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Can Arsenal halt Leicester's title charge?

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it is currently goalless at the Emirates.

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The top four are all in action today with Manchester City playing

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Newcastle find themselves back in the relegation zone

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while Sunderland get an important win over Manchester United to move

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The Mail on Sunday has papers: the headline "I'm Doomed",

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with van Gaal admitting the top four is out of reach.

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The Sunday Times, "Dithering United run risk of losing Mourinho".

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Andy's paper, the Sunday Mirror, "High Rollers".

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The Leicester owner will throw the players a ?1m Las Vegas

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It's third against first at the Emirates.

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I said it was goalless but goodness knows how. 60 minutes in, both

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goalkeepers have been busy, Kasper Schmeichel hearing off his line,

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Aaron Ramsey broke from the halfway line, I think he actually had a

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chance to put the ball over Schmeichel but did not make proper

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contact. 20 seconds later Petr Cech making a blinding save to his right

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hand side from Jamie Vardy. Alexis Sanchez went close in the first

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minute and Arsenal have had a penalty appeal turned down for

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potential handball by Kante. It is all go and it is living up to

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expectations. Paul Robinson as I said it has been living up to

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expectations. Exactly like the game at the King power. I think it will

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be an open game today. Two teams really fighting for the title. Who

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would have thought Lester would be there. Fantastic result against

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Manchester City and I think today if they get any kind of result I think

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they are stonewalled favourites for the title. They will get a boost by

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the fact Mertesacker is back, Jamie Vardy will fancy his case against

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Mertesacker. That is why Coquelin maybe gives him some protection.

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Arsene Wenger and Arsenal will be caught this dilemma, do you set up

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to counter Leicester's counterattack style. If you see what I mean. Last

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week Pellegrini it looked like he had never seen Leicester play. There

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was no provision for their style and City were beaten easily. The

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question is whether Arsenal will play their natural game and leave

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themselves exposed to the pace of Vardy Riyad Mahrez. Watching the

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first 17 minutes it looks as if they are playing their normal game.

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Plenty of possession for Arsenal and a couple of half chances. Definite

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shout for a penalty and all of a sudden Leicester are nice and

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compact and they break and they have the best chance of the game. And

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more pressure contrary to what Arsene Wenger says, more pressure on

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Arsenal. More pressure on all of the title rivals and Leicester. I do not

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fly decided that now they have more time to think about it, 13 games in

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14 weeks and a lot of time to think about it. I do not buy into that. I

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think last week Manchester City did not put out any provisions for

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Leicester, they were confident in their own ability, we are Manchester

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City, this is how we are going to play. I do not think they gave them

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enough credit. I wonder whether going forward for the rest of the

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season, you talk about whether Arsenal might change about the way

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they played, maybe some of the other sides fighting nearer the bottom,

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and the start of the season they thought that could be three points

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against Leicester but now they will change the way they play which puts

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added pressure on. I think that will definitely change, but what

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Leicester cannot do is change the way they play. It is Barry Fulton we

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stick to their principles. The way they play on the counterattack is

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fantastic. What I am worried about, I would love to see Leicester

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winning both my one worry as I was involved in Newcastle as a youth

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coach when we threw away the lead, and we threw it away, it is amazing

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how all of a sudden personalities changed. Coaches and managers, their

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attitude change. Everybody in the club. It was like a holiday camp

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before that, everything going nicely. We were scoring goals and

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event was going for us, we were winning games but all of a sudden

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the pressure turned and it turned about now. And how did it change? I

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think people got more tight, people started expecting them to go and win

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the games where nobody expects Leicester to go to Arsenal and win,

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like last week nobody expected them to beat Man City. But all of a

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sudden the pressure just gets turned up a little and it starts affecting

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people in a different way. I think they have enough personalities

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within their team not to affect them. Was that the keys at Leeds? I

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was going to say it was very similar. A couple of seasons we were

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leading the league with the likes of Manchester United behind us,

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experience of being there and doing it. But when you have not been there

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and you are expected to win every weekend and it does not go for you,

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you do not know how to put it right. You do not have the experience of

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being at the front of the pack. And it does change before. Do you think

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a couple of things maybe the counter that, Ranieri is more experience

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than Kevin Keegan was and has experience of title run ins in Italy

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for example. And also, this is the sixth successive game he has picked

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the same starting XI. The first Premier League manager to do that

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this season which seems Riddick but he is not faffing. They are having

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so much fortune in this spell not picking up any injuries. They have

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such a tight squad they can allow Ritchie De Laet to go to

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Middlesbrough on loan. They have consistency and they know what they

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are doing. I think because they have got themselves in this position I

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think they are going to succeed. I will tell you why. They have not got

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the FA Cup, Champions League, they can put their energy in. That is

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their biggest tribute. They can prepare for a game on the weekend

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and we have a full week. The other sides around them have not. And they

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can also look back on a run of form which if you include the last nine

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games of the previous season, 25 this season, they have taken 75

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points from 34 games. This is rock solid form. They can say we have

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only been bitten by Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. We are a good team.

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We believe we are a good thing. And there is not that much pressure.

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That story, the ?1 million visit to Las Vegas. That is probably only

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because there is no title win bonus in their contracts. At the start of

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the season you are not putting in how much you get if you win the

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title. From the outside Ranieri seems completely different to how he

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was at Chelsea, highly strung, messing about with the team. I think

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that has come into the players. They genuinely are not feeling the

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pressure. Can I ask you, Andy, one question that lets out in the

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build-up. Arsene Wenger was talking about Mahrez and said in all honesty

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he was not really aware of him but then he went on to say that in this

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day and age he could not sign a player for ?400,000 because people

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would be saying, why have you sign someone for ?400,000. The rest ?40

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million people would immediately say it is a great signing. Is that a sad

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indictment on the whole industry? In a way it is, it is a reflection of

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where they are at. I would not save indictment. Funnily enough Ed

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Woodward in the Conference calls are the same thing to American

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investors. -- I would not say indictment. Leicester City are

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buying in that market, Woodward, explaining, was asked a question

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directly by an investor, saying why can we not do what they did? Because

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we have to purchase ready-made world-class players. They do not

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come at 400 grand. That proves the point that there are bargains out

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there if you are prepared to put something by missing, structure,

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development staff, to go out and look for it. There are bargains out

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there for everybody. The Leicester wage bill is 17th in the family,

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only three below them are the three teams that have come up. The

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recruitment, chief scout, they deserve a lot of credit. What we're

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saying is the recruitment for certain clubs is not necessarily

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about finding the best player, it is about spending a lot of money on

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so-called marquee signings, to satisfy the market? And investors?

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Then football is not a sport. But Mahrez coming from French League 2,

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Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool to a certain extent, are not

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shopping in that market. Should they be? I don't know. It is hard to say.

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They want players who have established themselves in the

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Champions League, establish themselves maybe with international

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credentials. When was the last time one of those big clubs did not buy a

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fully fledged international. If you move onto City against birds, we're

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talking about consistency of selection.

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Only 18 outfield players have started a league game

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They are doing something very similar and until the injury to the

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Tongan, the spine tended to be the same. -- injury to Yann Vertonghen.

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He has done a fantastic job and as you say he has a very small squad.

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-- Jan Vertonghen. It seems a good place to be. The biggest example is

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Erik Lamela, he was great going forward when we went there, but now

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he is running backward as well. He is buying into the dairy and the way

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the manager wants to play. It is there any way he will stay in the

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team and players realise that. There have been no problems coming out of

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Spurs, normally you are waiting for something to happen but the

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chairman, the manager, they will be some rest. The one tiny thing was

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Andros Townsend, that has gone. It seems to be a steady ship. His

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lamellar again a perfect example of just allowing somebody a bit of time

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to get used to everything. I have to be honest it takes foreign players a

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bit of time to get used to the Premier League. When he came in and

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it was all, the transfer fee on his head, all of these expectations and

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he has given him time. He has put him in the team, took him out, put

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him back in and now he has got back in and does not want to come out. It

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has taken Mesut Ozil over a year, really and he is an established

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world-class player. And I think going back to the likes of lamellar,

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Spurs have bought into this, they can use 18 outfield players, they

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have been fortunate with injuries but they have also had an entire

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preseason with Pochettino. Apparently it is rate clear they are

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very fit, they are the team that covers the most ground in the

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Premier League. Ben Davies 's today in the Sunday Times talks about the

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intensity of their training sessions. If all of the players are

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praising the sessions and praising that intensity it cannot just be

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like that means they have not had injuries. There is science behind

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it. Of course and we are talking about Arsenal and Leicester but

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Tottenham are out there. People are not giving them enough credit, the

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way they are playing and mothers 's old they are getting. We talked

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about the squad, the training. Everything is geared up for them. I

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would be cautious of ruling them out. But would you put Spurs in the

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Leicester group then, as in, everything is going swimmingly, not

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party time, but you are not starting to think about it. You have to live

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Spurs into that Leicester group of all of a sudden, yes we could

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witness. I think Leicester are out on their own. It would not be as big

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a shock if Tom did it. But what I will say is Tottenham also have the

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distraction of the Europa cup. They now have that carrot. They could

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qualify. If you win this competition. I think they will stay

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in the top four anyway so they have a comfort blanket but I think they

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have a super opportunity. It is so open, fascinating. Spurs, we are

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saying how well they are doing but generally in terms of points this is

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pretty much where they are nearly every system. 48 points from 25

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games. One season at this stage they had 53 points, 11-12. They are

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generally around this mark. Now maybe they will feel pressure

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because they are being talked up as the team rather than City or

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Arsenal, which we will forward, Spurs being talked up as the team to

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be challenging rest. Would you expect a response from Manchester

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City today given last week? I think so. All of the pressure is on Man

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City today. If they have got expectations of winning this Premier

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League they have to go and win this game. They have got their problems.

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In the centre of defence whether company comes back, he is a factor.

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Managerial wise it is interesting, how Pellegrini will react. We have

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been talking in the press about how the players are reacting to the news

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that Guardiola is coming in. How does Pellegrini react? He says

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the right things, that he is going to go all-out to win every trophy.

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If you know that the job is ending in a finite amount of time, I cannot

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it doesn't affect you. All the rumours were going around about

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Steve McClaren coming in in January. And it was difficult. You say that

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you don't take notice of it, but players do have one eye on the new

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guy coming in. Did you discuss it with the players? Was it an unspoken

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subject in the dressing room? When I took over, I said, I'm in charge

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from now to the end of the season. This is how it is. If we do well, I

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have the chance of the job, if not, I don't. Don't worry about anything

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going out on the outside. We have to stay together and do the job that's

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in front of us. I think the players want Pellegrini. The way he has

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conducted himself, he has been very dignified. He's said to the boys,

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enough is enough. I'm going to say what's going on. It's looking stupid

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on me, I'm going to put this to bed. And I think the players owe him a

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performance between now and the end of the season. This will be the day

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that Leicester and Spurs get big doses of reality. Expecting big win

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for Arsenal and Manchester City. If you are watching us, there is a

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monitor just over there with Arsenal against Leicester on it, so I am

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being deliberately rude to everyone in the studio! A very enjoyable,

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wide open game. We have played just over half an hour. Giroud just had a

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very clever back header into the net, rightly ruled offside. Petr

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Cech has made the best save of the game. That was from a Jamie Vardy

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header. Wes Morgan has made two important defensive contributions to

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Leicester, intercepting a cross from Oxlade-Chamberlain and blocking a

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shot from Sanchez. I am here with the former Luton and Leicester boss,

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David Pleat. What do you make of it? Leicester has grown in confidence

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from the early minutes. Arsenal has grown in approach. Leicester are

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getting it forward quicker than Arsenal. Kante in midfield is

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absolutely fantastic. He has won challenges and spread the play. A

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fantastic game at the moment. Great stuff. 13 minutes remaining in the

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first half. Let's go to the deciding one-day international in South

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Africa. Not a great day so far for England's Atman. They were bowled

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out for 236 after 45 overs. Almost a Test match start from South Africa

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in reply. Broad and Topley seeking early wickets that England

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desperately need. A second one-day 104 Alex Hales, who played

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splendidly. He was ninth out. He got very little support. England rather

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frittered their wickets away in Mr siding match. South Africa are 14

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for no wicket in the fifth over. Lots of tweets from Newcastle fans.

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Dan says, I am embarrassed to be a Newcastle fan. No fight from the

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players. Ian, it is time for McLaren to admit defeat and walk away. We

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need someone who can motivate players and not excuse them. Another

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says, relegation is a certainty with McLaren in charge. He is clueless.

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Let's hear from the manager of Newcastle. You are going away to

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warm weather training. Some Newcastle fans wouldn't mind a bit

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of warm weather training, and they probably deserve it. They follow you

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through thick and thin, and they have had no reward today. It is a

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training camp. We have tried to arrange a game over here because in

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18 days, we need a game in between. We can only fix a game abroad. They

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were the only ones who could players, teams out of season, just

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playing pre-season for the second half. We tried to get a game here.

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But wherever it is, it is a camp. It's not warm weather training. It

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isn't a social. It is work. Who would like to explain the difference

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between warm weather training and a training camp in warm weather? It

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was too defensive. No one would blame 18th going and finding... They

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dead in the game until March the 2nd. Sunderland will be going away

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to Dubai. You cannot blame a team for going away when they have a

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chance to get some warm weather training. That is what it is. Why

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does he feel the need to defend it? Do you feel there is a difference,

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we will hear from Allardyce at the moment, but do you think there is a

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real difference between the two in body language? You might think body

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language is important. Allardyce seems continually bullish, and

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McLaren maybe doesn't. I think Sam is like that because he sees the

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team is progressing. Since he bought the three players in the window,

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they have made huge strides. A good performance against Liverpool and a

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win against City yesterday. But Steve spent 51 million in the

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summer, 29 million in the January window, so there is more pressure on

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him. Everybody is expecting Newcastle to get out of this

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trouble. After the performance yesterday, we are in trouble. I

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genuinely think it is an element of personal character. No matter what

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happens at Sunderland this season, Sam does not believe he has anything

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to prove. But Steve does. He is very sensitive to the perception out

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there that he hasn't been a success, he hasn't been as good as he could

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have been. He has had limited success club wise, but he will think

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that his England managerial career didn't end in the way he wanted it

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to. He is under pressure again. He feels he has a lot to prove himself.

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He has a lot to prove after Newcastle spent all this money. The

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pressure is always there in that job. I have played under both

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managers, and Sam in that situation as Sunderland... I looked at

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Sunderland's performances and fixtures, and everything in my body

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said that Sunderland would be relegated. But another part of me

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said, Sam doesn't get relegated. When he took that job, I said they

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will not get relegated. And I still believe they won't. With his man

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managerial skills, he gets the best out of people. If he has the right

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type of foot ball, he will play the right type of football. They did

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well at the start of the season. If you asked Sam what he was doing with

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a training camp, he would not be so defensive. He might say, we are

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going to a warm weather training camp, and we might go out and have a

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beer together! The amount of times you arrange things like this, and

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you have a bad defeat on the Saturday and you have to fly off.

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Because they have bought in three or four players in the window, it is a

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great opportunity to get together. There were 11 individuals on that

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pitch yesterday. So this might be a great time to look at the video,

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spend time together and find out about personalities. If they are

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going to perform like they did yesterday, they are in trouble.

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You've got to get 40 points. You've got 24 at the moment. We've got to

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win five games and get a draw. We've only won six all season. In terms of

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points per game, that would be relegation form. It is easy to say,

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we are going for warm weather and we may even go for a beer, if you have

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just beaten Manchester City rather than... But back to Newcastle, they

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don't have a leader. They were 3-0 down after 15 minutes yesterday.

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There is nobody saying, let's sit tight and go more direct for ten

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minutes. Let's get our shape. They are still trying to play out and

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back when they are 3-0 down. There's too much division in the team. His

:24:43.:24:47.

Coloccini and leader? Not really. He is the captain of the foot wall

:24:48.:24:55.

team, but he is not like the old-fashioned captain, like Shearer

:24:56.:25:00.

away. Coloccini is not vocal. He plays for himself, if I'm honest.

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It's something the club will have to address. In times like now, when we

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are in trouble, we need some leaders. There's not many leaders at

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any football club. The leaders are a dying breed. Trying to find them is

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not easy. Still goalless at the Emirates, but better news for

:25:24.:25:28.

England's cricketers. Reece Topley is on a hat-trick. He has dismissed

:25:29.:25:36.

Quentin De Kock and du Plessis. Quentin De Kock was originally given

:25:37.:25:41.

not out, but it was reviewed. It was an inside edge on the fire pad. Good

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use of the review from England. Three have been overturned today.

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The umpiring has been poor. Let's move on to Sam Allardyce, and hear

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from him after their win over Manchester United. I've showed a

:25:59.:26:05.

commitments, a desire and a will to try to get ourselves out of the

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problems we are in. My constant need for the correct decision-making

:26:12.:26:15.

processes on the field, it is always me, are you doing the right things

:26:16.:26:20.

in the right areas? Keep to the basics, sought out that right, and

:26:21.:26:24.

you have enough ability to get on the end of it, and then it is up to

:26:25.:26:29.

you to take the advantage and go on to win. And gladly, we have done

:26:30.:26:35.

today. When you are playing under him, is that what he reinforces all

:26:36.:26:40.

the time, basic decision-making? He wants you to do the right thing and

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stick to a game plan. He is very clear on what he wants and expects,

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and if you don't give him that, he's not... The players either love him

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or hate him. If he doesn't like you, he will make life uncomfortable for

:26:56.:26:59.

you. But if you buy into what he does and give him everything, he is

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great to play for. Are those messages easy to understand? Before

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the game against Man U yesterday, he spoke in a press Conference about

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how it was hard to get that message across to some of the players. And

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that is a site that has some experience. O Shea, Brown,

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Cattermole. They are not kids. He has had to bring players in the

:27:27.:27:33.

transfer window. Newcastle bought very attacking, he bought very

:27:34.:27:36.

defensively. The players did a really good job for him. He is

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talking about the formation, the structure and dynamics of the team,

:27:42.:27:45.

the system he wants to play, rather than the message. When you watch

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them, it is the back four, one in front... It is so simple. You are

:27:53.:27:56.

saying they have all bought into what he wants them to do. He has now

:27:57.:28:02.

found a formula. He looks like he has a settled side. The one thing he

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has got, and he has said on a number of occasions, clean sheet. Got to

:28:09.:28:12.

keep clean sheets, stay in the game. He has kept a few clean sheets, but

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he has signed a player who can deliver the ball into the box, so

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they can score goals from set plays. That's why they have a huge chance

:28:24.:28:28.

now. Do you think there is a sphere in modern management about keeping

:28:29.:28:32.

things simple? Is there a fear about how we will talk about it, how the

:28:33.:28:40.

fans will talk about it? Not all footballers are simple people, but

:28:41.:28:44.

we want the basics. Working with Alan Shearer, we were on the

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training ground, and I was explaining something to him about

:28:49.:28:52.

making this run. I was explaining it to Alan! And he said, can you show

:28:53.:28:59.

me what you mean. And I did. He is a top England international football,

:29:00.:29:03.

and he still needed showing. You have to go to basics, narrow

:29:04.:29:09.

everything down, and be particular, but don't overcomplicate it. We will

:29:10.:29:14.

come back to that. Let's go to the Emirates. Arsenal fans always worry

:29:15.:29:22.

when Atkinson referees. Rihad Mahrez has missed his last two penalties.

:29:23.:29:27.

The duties are handed to Jamie Vardy. He stands on the edge of the

:29:28.:29:34.

penalty area. Drives it in! Cech goes the wrong way, and Leicester

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are at it again. This time at the Emirates Stadium, just before

:29:40.:29:42.

half-time. They lead before a girl -- they lead by a goal to kneel.

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Another big step towards the most unlikely title win.

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The goodness me he thumped that. You don't save them. Did you see the

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incident? Three referees. Can we go back to David Craig? Did you see the

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incident? That's back David Pleat. Certain penalty, clumsy challenge.

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Jamie Vardy was clever, but just prior to that Kante had made a run

:30:18.:30:24.

and got upended and there was a booking for the Arsenal player.

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Martin Atkinson played on. You mentioned him, Mr Chapman, he has

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refereed Arsenal, I was looking, 12 times, five wins, five losses, two

:30:35.:30:43.

draws. I was not casting aspersions, all I am doing is reflecting on some

:30:44.:30:47.

fans were saying. Of course, Martin. Sorry... I will leave you alone

:30:48.:30:53.

David. Massenet tinctures see how both sides respond. It is an amazing

:30:54.:30:59.

end to the first half. You could not score as a better time. Everybody

:31:00.:31:08.

changes in the team talk. The game is set up. I have watched bits and

:31:09.:31:11.

pieces and I'm not surprised the way the game has developed. When you

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have got a player like Jamie Vardy who likes to get across people. He

:31:18.:31:23.

is always honourable. He is unbelievably confident at the moment

:31:24.:31:28.

having had the season he has had. David mentioned maybe he induced

:31:29.:31:33.

challenge but that is what he is doing. The way he dispatched the

:31:34.:31:38.

penalty, the confidence is sky high. Against the poll, only a player and

:31:39.:31:46.

his utmost confidence can do that. Against Aston Villa he did not get

:31:47.:31:50.

enough credit for that attempt that was kept out when Okazaki scored the

:31:51.:31:54.

rebound, it was an unbelievable attempt from a player who basically

:31:55.:31:57.

seems to be getting more confidence and getting better when a player you

:31:58.:32:02.

do not normally associate someone. You are right that he injured the

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challenge, Monreal put his foot there. Strikers do that, clever

:32:09.:32:12.

strikers do that. And with goalkeepers, when they come out nine

:32:13.:32:15.

times out of ten the striker could quite happily jump over the

:32:16.:32:18.

goalkeeper but they leave their leg in and they go. Aaron Ramsey has

:32:19.:32:23.

just been booked as well and they are off their feet at the Emirates.

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Everything could do with being calms down. They need half-time. They

:32:28.:32:32.

cannot afford to go down to ten men. They need to get in there and

:32:33.:32:39.

regroup. He had some words there, Jamie Vardy, after taking the

:32:40.:32:43.

penalty, I think with Monreal. He has that streak in him. When he said

:32:44.:32:50.

the signal to the City fans last week and you thought, he is a

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confident boy, verging on the cocky. The half-time whistle has gone.

:32:56.:33:01.

Bullying from the Arsenal fans at half-time. Half -- booing from the

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fans hardly at the referee and partly the team. It will be

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fascinating to analyse this the night, they think they should have

:33:17.:33:27.

had a penalty for a challenge on Mesut Ozil. Martin Atkinson then

:33:28.:33:31.

paid an excellent advantage, as David Pleat said, definite penalty.

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Jamie Vardy induced the challenge, but big contact and Vardy stuck the

:33:39.:33:42.

penalty away briefly. Martin Atkinson the last man to leave the

:33:43.:33:50.

field gets roundly booing but at the moment Arsenal on their way to a

:33:51.:33:55.

famous away win. Big second-half to come. Plenty of updates throughout

:33:56.:34:01.

the afternoon. Let's go back to the Stadium Of Light, Sam Allardyce and

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the positive effect on his side. Louis van Gaal now admits that

:34:09.:34:11.

Champions League is starting to look out of reach. We had to win this

:34:12.:34:18.

match because we had to be in the race for the top four positions in

:34:19.:34:22.

the league. Then you have two when this kind of match. But I think we

:34:23.:34:32.

can only blame ourselves. You mentioned top four, of course that

:34:33.:34:35.

is still the target but how difficult will that be? Very

:34:36.:34:39.

difficult. I have said that to the players because you cannot close

:34:40.:34:44.

your eyes. Last week using the title was within reach and now the top

:34:45.:34:49.

four is not. Is that the effect on going? I cannot see, I think that is

:34:50.:34:55.

generally what he believes now. Can wonder understand the way he has

:34:56.:34:58.

handled himself. He is an experienced manager, he has been

:34:59.:35:02.

there and won everything but he seems to have such thin skin. Alex

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Ferguson dominated that pressroom at Old Trafford and every time the

:35:08.:35:12.

press poking with a stick now he gives them something every time. Are

:35:13.:35:19.

you poking him? What has been poking him with the stick has been there

:35:20.:35:23.

for man's style of play. It is not the questions, which we have to ask

:35:24.:35:31.

him. This is Manchester United. But he gives great answers. The lowest

:35:32.:35:35.

amount of points at this stage of the season, the lowest amount of

:35:36.:35:40.

goals, since the Premier League started of course. These are

:35:41.:35:42.

legitimate questions. More importantly the way they play.

:35:43.:35:48.

Yesterday, van Gaal himself said there was very little aggression.

:35:49.:35:53.

Wayne Rooney said the same thing. When you are saying that the basic

:35:54.:35:58.

things such as not enough aggression you have to ask questions of van

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Gaal. It is very similar to man City with the so-called manager in the

:36:04.:36:08.

wings, it is a difficult situation. I am a bit surprised Man Utd as a

:36:09.:36:13.

football club have not tried to help the manager by coming out and making

:36:14.:36:18.

a statement. I am very surprised. It would help van Gaal because in the

:36:19.:36:22.

press Conference all they are talking about is Jose Mourinho ready

:36:23.:36:29.

to come in. Is it a Chelsea situation where the players are

:36:30.:36:32.

starting to down tools and wait for the next manager because the

:36:33.:36:37.

performances are deteriorating? So do you think the chief executive is

:36:38.:36:44.

canvassing the mood of walls. People before making a decision? That might

:36:45.:36:49.

move of all sorts of people? Two he can make the decision on his own.

:36:50.:36:54.

Probably with the consent of the Glazer family and a couple of

:36:55.:36:57.

important board members but in essence Ed Woodward will have the

:36:58.:37:03.

final say on who is the next manager or whether Louis van Gaal stays.

:37:04.:37:07.

From that point of view what John says I agree with, van Gaal's excuse

:37:08.:37:16.

as to why Manchester United are in silence over the claims Mourinho is

:37:17.:37:19.

in market is because he says, why comment on stories they don't

:37:20.:37:22.

believe. If they don't believe then say they are just wrong. Come out

:37:23.:37:27.

and say that the least they can do is say van Gaal will be there until

:37:28.:37:31.

the end of the season. I do think it will just become, it will be poking

:37:32.:37:36.

him at every single press Conference. There might be a time,

:37:37.:37:40.

he himself has admitted, the story has been confirmed that he offered

:37:41.:37:45.

to go before Christmas. We know there is uncertainty. You can answer

:37:46.:37:50.

this as well, a West Ham fan said to me, why did we get criticised last

:37:51.:37:54.

year for moaning about the style of play under Sam Allardyce as if we

:37:55.:37:57.

are in the wrong and yet Manchester United fans then van Gaal either

:37:58.:38:05.

one. The 's answer you are expecting is that Big Sam has a great

:38:06.:38:08.

relationship with the media. It is an interesting point, actually. I

:38:09.:38:13.

think because the job that needed to be done at West Ham was keep them in

:38:14.:38:17.

the Premier League. That is not the job at Manchester United. They need

:38:18.:38:21.

to be winning. The difference in expectation, the different

:38:22.:38:25.

parameters. That is sort of the answer... And I expect lots of fans

:38:26.:38:31.

to be contacting you on your timeline over the next couple of

:38:32.:38:35.

hours. Back to the cricket: another wicked. Rilee Rossouw has been

:38:36.:38:40.

caught at extra cover by Alex Hales driving Reece Topley, who has all

:38:41.:38:43.

three wickets. That brings AB de Villiers to the crease here in Cape

:38:44.:38:48.

Town in his 200th match. They need captains innings, they are in

:38:49.:38:53.

trouble at the moment chasing 237, in the ninth over, they are 22-3.

:38:54.:38:59.

Let's talk about South London, sixth plays, they have won five of the

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last six or they have not conceded in the Premier League for nine hours

:39:04.:39:07.

and 14 minutes. A couple of weeks ago we talked about their switch to

:39:08.:39:11.

a back three which had been successful and the other big success

:39:12.:39:14.

was they have got Fraser Forster back. He has been immense, six clean

:39:15.:39:20.

sheets. I signed him when Graeme Souness came into the football club.

:39:21.:39:25.

I was Academy director. We were playing a youth cup match and they

:39:26.:39:30.

did not have a reserve goalkeeper so I asked the scale of the someone as

:39:31.:39:35.

cover. Jimmy Blackall went out to the grammar school, it was a rugby

:39:36.:39:42.

school, not a football school, we signed him from a grammar school,

:39:43.:39:46.

private school, that played rugby as cover in our youth cup. The rest is

:39:47.:39:50.

history. When he came through the door he could not catch the ball,

:39:51.:39:55.

his position was all over the place but he developed into one the best

:39:56.:39:59.

goalkeepers the country and I think there with Joe Hart and Jack

:40:00.:40:06.

Butland. He has gone from rags to riches. And it was not 14, 15, he

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was 17 or 18, he was a late developer. He was given an

:40:14.:40:17.

opportunity and he has been a huge factor in their success. It is no

:40:18.:40:22.

cause them is that the results have started to pick up, six on the

:40:23.:40:26.

bounce clean sheets. They use a great goalkeeper. Physically huge.

:40:27.:40:32.

These huge. He is agile, his shot stopping, communication improving as

:40:33.:40:37.

he is getting older. His domination of the box. He instils confidence in

:40:38.:40:42.

the defence. From goalkeepers now, do they often tend to be, our club

:40:43.:40:47.

is looking more for good footballers who can go in goal, if you see what

:40:48.:40:55.

I mean. Or is there still places for actual good goalkeepers first and

:40:56.:41:00.

foremost? Goalkeeper's job is to keep the ball out. It does not

:41:01.:41:06.

matter. Now 80% of the game is with your feet, you do not see many

:41:07.:41:10.

goalkeepers these days catching shots, you have to keep the ball

:41:11.:41:14.

out, you have to be good with your feet. The modern-day goalkeeper is

:41:15.:41:18.

an all-round goalkeeper. But the confidence Fraser Forster instils in

:41:19.:41:22.

the defence is incredible. It is almost tangible. At Old Trafford, it

:41:23.:41:30.

was amazing, there was no hint of mistrust from his defenders, he

:41:31.:41:34.

dominated the penalty area. Talking about the new style of goalkeeping.

:41:35.:41:40.

How much emphasis you put on distribution. Someone who dominates

:41:41.:41:48.

that the area, the six yard box, extending out to ten or 12 years,

:41:49.:41:51.

somebody who dominates their is quite rare but he does it. When your

:41:52.:41:55.

scout came back with a goalkeeper who could not catch, do you wonder?

:41:56.:42:03.

I was quite happy we had someone. When he came into the football club,

:42:04.:42:08.

he has such a great society, very intelligent boy, wonderful families,

:42:09.:42:12.

we knew he would pick things up quickly. He did a lot of work with

:42:13.:42:17.

the coach. We have seen him progress quickly. It is great to see because

:42:18.:42:20.

he had this quickly. It is great to see because

:42:21.:42:24.

when you suffer an injury likely did you can come back not as agile, not

:42:25.:42:30.

as fit. But he is even the. Pushing for a chance now with the Euros.

:42:31.:42:35.

Watford in a further bid to Gretel Palace, how worried well Alan Pardew

:42:36.:42:41.

be? He will be concerned. The one thing about him is every single day

:42:42.:42:44.

he'll be looking for the solution. What I will say is my will make an

:42:45.:42:50.

excuse, it is also coinciding with losing Yannick Bolasie, his most

:42:51.:42:56.

creative player. Goals, assists and energy. He has not got a main

:42:57.:43:02.

striker, he brought in Adebayor. But he has had a lot of injuries. He has

:43:03.:43:06.

not talked about it, I am talking about it because people will save he

:43:07.:43:12.

is using excuses. But looking for a solution, thinking tried to change

:43:13.:43:14.

the shape yesterday solution, thinking tried to change

:43:15.:43:18.

searching for that solution. He will find it because he is so thorough.

:43:19.:43:24.

Like Watford this year, people are not talking enough about the manager

:43:25.:43:28.

there, turnover of players, the squad he has put together. As you

:43:29.:43:32.

say they have crept up into eighth place. They have not been given half

:43:33.:43:36.

the credit they deserve. In the same way Ben Davies said we are more than

:43:37.:43:41.

Harry Kane and Dele Alli, they are more than Troy Deeney and Ighalo.

:43:42.:43:46.

Absolutely, the only issue would be people in Spain will come calling

:43:47.:43:54.

for the manager. Thank you very much, two at Tenby on the night.

:43:55.:43:57.

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