14/09/2014 MOTD2 Extra

Hello and welcome to match of the day 2 Extra. In the studio with me,

former England, Newcastle and Spurs midfielder Jermaine Jenas. We also

have the chief or Bull correspondent from the Independent. We want your

thoughts. -- chief sport correspondent. On the agenda this

afternoon, Newcastle, we ask what next for Alan Pardew? Chelsea

continued to steam roller everybody. Can anybody match them? Arsenal, Man

City and Liverpool dropped points yesterday. Leicester did well at

Stoke. This afternoon of course all eyes will be on the new look

Manchester United. Picture of Diego Costa over the papers. One story

dominating. For example, the Mail, Alan Pardew on the brink. Another

one, the Mirror, looks like the writing is on the wall. We want to

know who you think is to blame for the mess at Newcastle. Is it Alan

Pardew, Mike Ashley or the players? You can vote for 30 minutes. We will

give you the result at the end of the show. Terms and conditions on

the BBC Sport website. Your first appearance on the show, Jermaine,

big question, who do you blame? Thanks for that! For me, when

something happens like this, it normally starts at the top and

filters the way down through the management and coaches and onto the

pitch. If Newcastle needed a bigger example of that, yesterday was that,

steering them -- staring them in the face. They have never got great

results historically at Southampton, but it was some pretty poor for

formance is -- pretty poor performances yesterday. It would be

hard to argue against the players being to blame. As Jermaine alludes

to, they were awful, they could have been 2-0 down in two minutes. The

centre-backs were appalling. Alan Pardew knows it is a results

business, old cliche, but the results have not been good enough.

The writing does seem to be on the wall. Whether there is another

U-turn to be made, I doubt it. It just seems to be a story waiting to

be written. The argument, when you do a vote like this, actually, you

could argue all of them, Alan Pardew, the players and Mike.

Southampton is another club that has brought in a lot of players like

Newcastle but it seems to be working for them. What do you think the

difference is? The problem is it has been very sudden. The last two

transfer windows, last summer they did not sign anyone. They got Loic

Remy on loan. They have had to refashion the team. They finished

last season really poorly. They have had to refashion the team very

quickly in the midst of a ?40 million worth of signings. In the

first game, there was quite a lot of promise. Unfortunately, Alan Pardew

will always be... As a manager, I think he has had quite an admirable

career. But he came in as a replacement for Chris Hughton who

was popular with the fans. It was an unpopular sacking. It was always

going to be difficult for them, as soon as things started to go wrong.

I totally agree. He has had his best players sold out from underneath

him. The owner of the club needs to have a fair portion of the blame. It

is a goldfish... We were joking about this statement apportioned to

you that you did not say. A goldfish bowl club. A soap opera. Anything

that happens is out there and that does not help. I feel sorry for

supporters and also Alan Pardew. One of the issues is how much control

Alan Pardew has. Are these his players? The sale of one of them, he

went to Rome. They have been left with Steven Taylor and others. A few

questions the fans have highlighted regarding players coming in and out.

Where is the club going? What is the identity of Newcastle united?

Stadium name has gone. They have not got the call player that they need.

When I was there, it was Alan Shearer, Steve Harper, these are the

players that came through the system and know what Newcastle United is

about. Let me read you texts and tweakeds. Alan Pardew is in a bad

position but I think you should be looking at the running of the club

above Alan Pardew. Rob says, get him out, if we do nothing, it will be

another season where we finish mid-table or even worse relegation

battle. Let us talk to the Newcastle Chronicle chief sports writer. What

about this point that Newcastle have lost all sense of identity? It seems

that way. Pretty desperate yesterday at Southampton. We are not talking

about the performances after 20 minutes, it was bad after 30

seconds. Alan Pardew sat in his seat for the full 90 minutes. Not a lot

of guidance. Just on Alan Pardew's technical area behaviour, I know

last season he said he would have to sit down more after his altercation,

but players tell me that they quite like their manager sitting down

because they find that actually a manager ranting and raving in the

technical area can give an impression of being out of control.

Fans want to see it though. That is the problem. It can be what the fans

want but it is not what the players need. It can be very confusing when

a manager gets up with a crossing of hands. From a fan's point of view,

it is a signal of the manager caring. For me, I preferred the

manager to be calculate -- calculated and get his point across

at half-time. Who is in control of players coming into Newcastle? I do

not think it is the manager, unfortunately. It is a mixture of

input from the backroom team. I do not think Alan Pardew is getting the

players he desires. That said, not bad players coming in. One of the

best players yesterday, did a decent job. Some need a bit of work. There

are good players coming in. It is getting the best out of them. The

manager is not doing that. But he will need time to get the best out

of these players coming in, particularly if they are not his

players. When managers bring in their own players, they know what

they are bringing in. If the manager is not aware of it, it will take him

time. That is a valid point. The ten game mark has been mentioned. Give

them to November to get it sorted. Unfortunately, if we give it until

November, we could be in a relegation battle. I did not see any

fight from that team yesterday. When you compare it with the fans, there

is a big gulf in terms of passion. Steve Bruce has been linked with a

job in the Sunday Express this morning. On Radio 5 Live earlier he

refused to be drawn into speculation. Said it was a horrible

morning for Alan Pardew and says he found it disrespectful he was linked

with someone else's job while they are still in the job. Blackpool do

not seem to have any problems with that at the moment! With Newcastle,

who would you say would be aimed -- would be a likely candidate if Alan

Pardew was to go? Someone who could put up with the restrictions and

control from above. I cannot honestly see the manager who likes

to call the shots coming in because they will not be able to. The last

couple of managers have been proof of that. I would like to give names

of managers who I think could do the job but it would probably be the

pick of Mike Ashley and potentially someone who they do not want. Thank

you. Where are Newcastle going? There are as Mike Ashley might be

going into Glasgow Rangers. He wants to increase his holding. What is

happening on that front. I think it is a club in a pickle. You cannot

judge Alan Pardew on the game yesterday at Southampton because the

players, the back four, they need to be blamed for that. It is very early

in the season and I do not think they should pull the trigger at the

moment. Keep your thoughts coming in. David Jones, pointless sacking

Alan Pardew, it is the owners that need to go but you cannot sell the

club without a buyer. Bad times ahead. Andy in Southampton, I

thought Newcastle were the worst team I had seen since the last time

we played them and also won. 4 wins out of four for Chelsea. Seven goals

for Diego Costa. Special player, 1 of the best strikers at this moment

in football. The team is an attacking team. It creates a lot. It

projects lots of people into the attack and attacking spaces and

creating spaces for a striker. You could argue that in all of the big

games yesterday, strikers played a part. Sergio Aguero scoring for

City. Let us start with Chelsea and Diego Costa. We all is get told that

foreign players come into the league and need time to settle. Not this

guy. He has been brilliant, breath of fresh air. He has brought the

qualities and performances he was giving to Madrid last year into the

Premier League. For me, the best bit of business done all summer. One of

the other things Jose Mourinho said in the interview earlier was that

they identified how they wanted to play and identified the players they

needed to help them play that way and went out and bought them. It

makes it sound very simple! With Diego Costa, he is a player that

looks ideally suited. Are member against John Terry in the semifinal

last year, he was very, very aggressive -- I remember. John

Terry's tempo was fraying with him. He treads on people's toes. He looks

like he has been around for years. Someone pointed out to me that he is

still eligible for a young person's railcard. He is a wonderful

footballer. When you look at... I think it was about 11 games before

he scored his first goal. So much of a striker's career is defined by the

early start. If they can get goals early on, it makes life so much

easier. The pressure just builds and builds and with Fernando Torres, I

thought he never really got over his bad start. Have you played with

strikers who did not get off to a good start and you have seen them

shrivel? It is tough. My mind immediately goes to the opposite.

That is good! Let us focus on the positive. Robbie Keane, Jermain

Defoe. Even players like... They were exactly right. They move on and

everything becomes easier. The fans are onside. They are singing their

name and confident. The goals flow in easier from that point. Fernando

Torres was... At the back of the race, everything was against him. He

never really got back on top of the situation.

Body language played a big part, he never looked as if he was

wholeheartedly behind because. This fellow, I saw him at Everton, he

does mix it with a centre-half, he put himself about, he is the sort of

Charles Bronson of the Premier League. He overstepped the mark when

he taunted the lad about the own goal a bit but he is prepared to get

in there and get hurt and I think the fans have taken to him in a

massive way. It is the best scoring start by a Chelsea player since the

20s. They are the best team in the Premier League at the moment. I

thought Torres did work quite hard, used to run around like a madman. I

think that might have been half of his problem, even. He used to be

backwards, forwards, defending, but the goal would not go in. I think it

was the slumped shoulders towards the end of the game if things did

not go well, that sort of body language, not his work great,

necessarily. I got loads of flak for saying he was working hard in games.

I think this fellow just put it about so much, the fact he is

prepared to mix it. I was at the Emirates yesterday, contrasted with

Danny Welbeck's start for Arsenal. The width of the post, I know this

is over day -- early days and I don't want to exaggerate but what a

difference that could make for belief and confidence. It would have

been the ideal start for input by think he will get a lot of time, it

is slightly different in his case -- it would have been the ideal start.

It was the same for Peter Crouch, I think you went about 18 games

without a goal. If you look at Diego Costa's goals, they are not

brilliant goals. He has put them in from three yards but those are the

ones that count. When Van the story came to Manchester United, it was

the start he made that reassured fans -- when Ruud van missed

Onto the Arsenal game, the express has got a picture of Jack Wilshere

on its back page, saying jubilant Jack has city raging. Manuel

Pellegrini thought there were some problems with decisions before the

Arsenal goals. But he was excellent yesterday. He was brilliant. He has

taken a lot of stick. He burst onto the scene, rightly so, he has had a

dip in form, so to speak. This country is so quick to try to kill

off our talent. He is one of the best things to come through in a

long time. He has had a lot of injuries as well. Those injuries,

they are hard to come back from, they play with your mind a bit, can

he give 100% in games? He is a special talent and yesterday he was

unbelievable. He literally ran the show from start to finish. Even when

Manchester City were on top, he managed to drag Arsenal back into

the game and his goal was brilliant. In this age of the subtle

differences in midfield, either side of a diamond or a holding

midfielder, how hard is it for a St John midfielder? I grew up in a

two. -- for a central midfielder? The game has changed. Jack has been

put in the holding midfield role for England, he is not a holding

midfielder for me. People criticise that he takes too many touches but

he draws players in with those touches. The almost looks quick

because of it. Players then, I can nick this, then one, to come around

him and he is away. His goal yesterday to provide that -- then

one, two. He is right up there with players who can open up defences,

for me. If you go back three years, we talked to him at St George's

Park, June 2011, England came from two goals behind, he won one of the

penalties and he was brilliant, and that was one of the last games he

played for England. There was a better pool of young players and

there was less pressure individually. Jack Wilshere is

coming through quite a Aaron landscape for English players and we

hope there will be more -- a barren landscape. Even almost before he

played a game for Arsenal, you knew about this boy. No one could spell

his name right, but even when he made his debut, there was a hell of

a lot of expectation. I think it has been difficult for him. He has not

helped himself at times, the smoking on holiday has got to stop and he

says it will. But these boys grow up in a very unusual way, for any

teenager, all of their mistakes are out there, there is no hiding, they

are in the newspapers. Even at 22, now, he is just getting to grips

with that. Some text messages, Fabregas and Costa are an

unbelievable combination. This one, don't forget the book balancing that

Chelsea have done with the players going out. Let's move on to

Liverpool and Aston Villa. This message says, might team Liverpool

have had an inconsistent start, it will be two or three seasons before

we challenge. We should not forget that Aston Villa go second in the

table, we can hear from both managers. I thought we deserved it.

We were resolute to defend when we had to. I thought the first half

chances, with sender -- with a header, we could have been two up.

Defensively we were outstanding, tactically we were great again and

with Gary up front -- Agbonlahor upfront we caused a problem. I

thought we were slow, we gave away a bad goal from a corner. But the

players responded, they upped the tempo and it was a mixture of solid

defending by Aston Villa, they sat in, and we could not find that bit

of quality and the final pass. A frustrating result for us. There are

two things to point out about Aston Villa. A lot of people mocked them

for signing Senderos. And they have only had six shots on target all

season, the two things are linked, their defence has been sensational.

And Senderos was probably their most dangerous player in the Liverpool

box. He got a couple of wax in on Balotelli, so did Alan Hutton. He

did not rise to it. I think he was subdued because he did not rise to

it, he thought he could not go back because of his previous in England,

I don't think it did him any good. They were very organised at the

back, absolutely superb. I don't think Liverpool did enough to

deserve anything out of the game. They didn't have any sort of shot

until late on. They had no storage or Raheem Sterling, no penetration

in the final third -- note Daniel Sturridge. Aston Villa fans will

think, we do not have Benteke and he is our main goal threat. Definitely.

This is a Villa team who have done well to stay in the league in the

last couple of seasons. Paul Lambert has said, at the start of the

season, we give everyone a chance, a clean slate and he has really added

experience to the defence which I think they needed. Young players,

especially defenders, need time. If you have an experienced defender,

you can bet the young player in nicely. -- bed the young player in.

It is an area of the page where you cannot afford to make a mistake,

because it will be a goal -- area of the pitch. The likes of Alan Hutton,

Ron Vlaar and send -- and Senderos, eyebrows were raised but these are

experienced players and it brings an element of calmness to the team, you

can see that with the clean sheets. If you put Nathan Baker next to

another kid... That is what they were doing more of glasses on. I

really admire Aston Villa for the way they have pursued this youth

policy. I know he has got a lot of stick, there was the semifinal

defeat in the League Cup. I thought, he is going to do well to survive

this. But they have got more players coming through. People are talking

about a young midfielder, Grealish. He has signed players from the

Football League, Ashley Westwood has turned into a Premier League player.

The midfield three of flabby and Delft, -- of Delph, Westwood and Tom

Cleverley, three English players, their academy is also something to

be admired. You should judge a player who has been called up in his

next two or three league games, and Delph was superb, and Westwood was

superb as well. Tom Cleverley slotted in at if he has been a Villa

player all his life. He played really well and I admired them. It

was not pretty but I admired them for the way they played yesterday. I

am worried about them saying that Raheem Sterling needs to be rested.

Do you think he does? The argument being, Brendan Rodgers says he needs

to be rested to give his career longevity was the Brendan Rodgers

doesn't want him to be burnt out at 20 is or 28. One of the things -- at

27 or 28. Brendan Rodgers got some information

about players returning from injury which he did not deem was correct.

It is the manager's choice. If he feels his 19-year-old star

midfielder needs a rest... Sometimes you think it is resting your legs

but it is the mental element of rest which is a lot more beneficial to

these young players but that they could run for days, he is a young

lad, he could play two games, probably. But mentally, even if it

is 45 minutes off, it is a lot. Let's talk to a man who is at a club

who have had a very good start to the season, Leicester City. We can

talk to a man who is coaching one of their strikers, we can say good

afternoon to Kevin Phillips. Hello. Good afternoon. The place must be

buzzing at the start you have made. It certainly is, certainly after

yesterday's results. Given the teams we have faced, to be sitting on five

points, having just been promoted, it has been a very good and pleasing

start for the supporters and players. I know very well be step up

from the class in the Championship to the Premier League is huge --

this step up -- the step up. Technically how good was Ulloa's

finish at Stoke? It was very good. Since I have been given this role, I

have tried to do my sessions based on what you would be given in match

situations. Try to recreate match situations. I look at the statistics

from the World Cup, 169 goals scored, 89% were one touch finishes.

A lot of my finishing sessions are one touch. You saw with Leonardo

yesterday, the ball was behind him, he had to adjust his feet, needed

exceptionally well. It comes from a player who is full of confidence at

the moment -- he did exceptionally well. It came at the right time of

the game, when we needed it. I saw him play a lot for Brighton glasses

and and the previous -- last season for so can he improve his movement

question at times he looked a bit sluggish and one paced. That is

something we are working on, all of our strikers can improve on

everything, they are always improving. I think what Leonardo has

found, making the jump from the Championship to the Premier League,

you have got to be ultra-fit. I think he found the tempo of our

training very difficult at the start but he is getting better and

stronger as the weeks go by. He certainly surprised me. I watched

him a bit in the Championship. I had that question over him can he make

the step up, but he is showing he is more than capable of putting in a

shift, scoring goals. He will get better, more work we do on the

training pitch, he is willing to learn and I am pretty sure at the

end of the season, he will have banged in quite a few goals. We have

heard from Sean Dyche and Garry Monk talking about when you go into the

nearly, the belief that you belong at that level sometimes takes a

while for some players. How hard have you worked on that as a

management team at Leicester to get the players to believe, or did they

believe already? As I said, it is always difficult, when you come out

of the Championship. I think what has gone in up favour, we have a lot

of players who have never experienced up merely so a lot of

them were excited -- never experienced the Premier League. That

there is always the question about if they can make the step up. We

have confident players, exceptionally talented players and

combine that together, it is no surprise to me that we have started

the season well. We played Everton in preseason in Thailand and we

competed very well, we beat them 1-0, they were missing a few players

but I think the players believed we can match the quality of the Premier

League teams and we showed that in the opening game against Everton,

going to Chelsea and holding our own for an hour, and the Arsenal game, I

think that really cemented into the minds of the players that we can

compete at this level. If we can take our chances when they come

along, we can get points on the board and we showed that yesterday.

We appreciate you talking to us. I loved the World Cup fact, thank you

for telling me that! That is great insight. 85% of the

World Cup goals were scored with one touch. I am trying to recall them.

That is a classic... How you imagine Thomas Muller and the other

instinctive finishes. That suggests to me that the great strikers come

they have to or three touches to beat the goalkeeper, it is bubbly

because a lot of the teams at the World Cup did not squeeze up as

much. The run in behind that you think of as the classic striker's

goal. Fantastic goal from Danny Welbeck the other day. Jermaine and

myself will be at Old Trafford. Match of the Day 2 will come from

the ground. We will have to wait until Louis van Gaal announces his

team later to see the new team. Former player is at Old Trafford. I

am guessing you have written down a starting XI today, you have probably

written down for five! I will be wrong whatever team sheet I have got

down at the moment! The big mystery is which starting XI will he picked

estimate people have criticised the club in the past for not spending

money -- will he picked? It will go down in the record books as the most

money Manchester United Football Club has ever spent. Up to the

players now. Louis Vanguard has written in his programme notes,

Swansea should feel comfortable playing at the home ground, we want

to bring the fear factor back -- Louis van Gaal. There has been

nervousness for over a season, hasn't now? There has. The great

players, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes, Ryan Giggs, other players last

season, when Rio Ferdinand was in the team, Patrice Evra, experienced

players and top players. There was no anxiousness. But when you have

new players, sometimes they find it hard to cope with playing at Old

Trafford. In my time here, a fantastic player at Nottingham

Forest, could not stop scoring goals, but came to us and on the

training ground he was brilliant but for some reason when he got onto the

pitch here could not handle it. That is the main reason we have lost

unbelievable players in the last two or three years, very difficult to

replace them. To be equal to the players I have just mentioned, it is

very difficult. Rio Ferdinand, Patrice Evra, backbone of the

defence last season. They are top players. I do not think it is just

in my opinion, it is done in the record book, the number of games

they have played on the number of years that the football club. To

replace players like that, it is difficult. We all know Ryan Giggs's

record. The players who come in, wherever they come from, no matter

how much they cost, they have got to prove themselves. We have had too

many in the last couple of years who have come here with big

reputations. The same applies to the latest acquisition. He has got to

prove it to the -- on the pitch. You have to prove yourself you are a top

Manchester United player, like the other lads I have just mentioned.

Some of the lads here have got to get up to that level hopefully this

season. Thank you very much. Harry Redknapp in the QPR dressing room

and Rio Ferdinand, 1 of the first things you say, listen, these lads

are nervous, get at them. You do not think you need to. Pretty obvious

that it is no longer a place to go and be feared. Are member going to

Old Trafford and feeling against it and thinking we are going to have to

pull out a performance to get a result -- I remember. Last seen --

last season and the season before, there were holes appearing. If QPR

can silence the crowd, I think there will be eight buzz around the place,

the signing of Radamel Falcao, no risk users, fresh start for them. If

QPR can go there and keep the fans quiet for 45, 50 minutes, catch them

on the break, they could run into a few more problems. The texts coming

in, Manchester United will be lucky to get top six. I'm looking forward

to seeing Radamel Falcao along with Sanchez, Diego Costa and Alitalia.

New dawn of quality. -- and Balotelli. Radamel Falcao will get

United under way. Do you expect there to be a different feeling

around Old Trafford? I do. If they get to half-time and have not

scored, it is back to the old uncertainty of last season. Again,

it is almost like the season is starting again, a whole new team,

Luke Shaw has not made his debut, others coming back from fitness.

Maybe four Debbie Purdy Mac today. They need to win. -- maybe for

debuts today. This is a new experience for Manchester United

fans. They are used to signing big players but not this many. That is

the difference. In fairness, Manchester United's pre-season was

one of the most highlighted I have seen in a long time. Everyone was so

excited to see the new formation. Swansea diffused it in one game.

There is a possible to it could happen again and then where do you

go? You would maybe expect the formation to change simply because

he has a lot of injuries. I don't know. Louis van Gaal did a tribute

for Jose Mourinho last season and said the only man more arrogant in

the world of football is me. As in him, not you. I am probably third! I

do not think he will change it at the moment. I am trying to work out

the team. A lot relies on Radamel Falcao. I saw him last season in an

away game when he was taken off for an hour and it all depends what mood

he is going to be in. I apologise, I cannot see QPR getting away with it

today. They nearly did a couple of years ago will stop there was

someone who was unfairly sent off in that game I think. Rio's book is

being serialised in the Sun at the moment. One of the headlines in the

Sun says, Terry is the biggest idiot, he has never said sorry.

Going back to the race row from a couple of seasons ago. Do you think

that will reignite all of that? It is interesting. It will take Terry

to respond to do it. Long time coming. More than two years since

the court case. Two years since the FA hearing. The court case gave one

verdict and the FA another. From all of the things journalists have been

told off the record, this is how he has felt, he has finally put it into

his words and he has a book out and he has decided this is the time to

resolve it. Nobody was under any illusions that Rio Ferdinand's

relationship with John Terry and Ashley Cole had been mended. John

Terry has not spoken about this. Ashley Cole does not talk to anyone.

Rio says he will never speak to Ashley Cole again. Ashley Cole gave

evidence to support John Terry's version of events in the magistrates

court. John Terry is closing the door. He used to be one of the

players at the go to guides. Since his retirement from international

football, he has barely given an interview. When I say an interview,

I mean a proper sit down, everything on the table. It will be interesting

to see how he responds. He will see it a very different way. From a

player's point of view, it is important for Rio, from a QPR

perspective, not to get carried away with the emotion of him going back.

He has said he never got a chance to say goodbye to the fans because of

the way the club hierarchy acted. That is a shame. Such an

unbelievable career at Man United. If that is what happened, it is

wrong. With regards to today's game, Rio is experienced enough to deal

with the situation. He is not going to get caught up in the moment. He

is a professional and he wants to perform and he knows that if he gets

caught up in the motions of today he will not play well and that does not

bode well for QPR. Would you expect the battery experiment for QPR not

convincing? In the last game, they played well. I do not see the back

four changing. 4pm kick-off, Manchester United against QPR, on 5

Live. Highlights this evening. There is one story doing the rounds about

the England U21s if you are looking in the papers today which is

suggesting that if they get through their qualifiers and get to the

summer finals, some of the more senior players, Ross Barkleys, Luke

Shaws, they might be made available. I think they should be. They need

tournament experience. This has been a loophole, a weakness, not great

international finals experience. With the help of the boys, I was

comparing Raheem Sterling to Lionel Messi, not a whole lot of difference

between the league appearances, but Messi had played in serious games

for Argentina. He came through the youth team ranks, under 20s, they

put a lot of faith in the youth sides. We do not. We do not get the

kids playing in tournaments. We need to get them playing in tournaments.

It is an issue for the clubs as well. A lot of the clubs in the

Premier League, when they get hold of the young players, they try to

protect them. When it comes to the summer tournaments, injuries,

tiredness going into the new season, I know we laugh about it, but it is

something that is highlighted. I personally experienced similar

issues where there is an under 20 World Cup, after they made my debut

at the World Cup for England, Rooney and I wanted to go and play. But you

are young and you do not have your voice... You do as you are told. If

someone says, you are not going, I am not going. Do you regret it now?

I think I do. All of these players like Messi who played in the

tournament, it is another platform. Who knows what comes of that. I

think in England we do not really pay it enough respect. The problem

with maybe saying, Ross Barkley is the person to go, where do you draw

the line? You are disrespecting the U21 team that has got them to where

they are because you cannot take everyone. I am all for it. Jack

Wilshere is eligible. I know Arsenal would fight it. I looked at Juan

Mata. He won the World Cup with Spain in 2010. A year later he won

the U21s with Spain. He was OK for him. He had no resentment. I

understand Jermaine is right and the players get caught in the club

versus country row. Five of the German players played in the final

in Maracana Stadium, it would have been six. Of the England team, only

Theo Walcott and James Milner have come true to have international

careers. Gareth Southgate said this morning on the radio that the

players in the team in 2009 had the opportunity and they let themselves

down. Quite a big statement. Gareth Southgate told me on Friday night

that it is good for England at the moment, all of the age groups are

winning. It is a bit more positive. I thought the performance that

Switzerland was very good. Nothing wrong with it. The Swiss were not as

good as in the World Cup. I thought we were very good. It is

optimistic. There are good points about the game. It is still a balmy

sport, especially when you have someone saying, if someone does not

play for France, he will be banned from Bayern Munich. Results from the

vote. Alan Pardew, 35%, the players, 25%, Mike Ashley, 39%. The

fans up blaming Mike Ashley. We will see you for much of the day to -- we

will As the eyes of the world focus

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