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Joining me today Jermaine Jenas, Shola Ameobi

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You can get in touch and we need you to. You can text us as well. This is

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what is coming up. Manchester United leave it late

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to book their place in the FA What does the future now hold

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for both Louis Van Gaal Newcastle come from

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behind again to win Eden Hazard scores his first

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goals of the season and says he wants Leicester

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to win the title. Not that Jermaine Tina Fey is happy

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with that! -- Jermaine Jenas. Claudio Ranieri's side can go eight

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points clear of Spurs The Mirror has the headline

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Sakho Drugs Shock and says Mamadou Sakho faces a 12 month ban

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for failing a drugs test. Shaun's paper The Sun leads

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on Louis Van Gaal admitting that he could be sacked

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even if he wins the FA Cup and that Eddie Howe is in contention

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to replace Roberto Martinez The Express says a deal has been

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agreed between Jose Mourinho and Manchester United. We have heard

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that one before but we will start with that, discussing Manchester

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United and then 2-1 victory over Everton. This is Louis van Gaal. You

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can see the joy in the eyes of the players. It is fantastic to see. But

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also for the fans. I think we deserved to go into the final,

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because I think the referee... We didn't have any foul in our benefit.

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And we changed the match, I think. We had so many chances, we could

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have finished it much earlier. Everton could probably say they

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played so well in the second half and they had chances to win it as

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well, couldn't they? No, they gained in the match because they got all

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the fouls. All the vowels around the 60 metre area. And then the fans of

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Everton were cheering. But in the first half and before that, no. That

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is the last time the referees are deciding the game and not the

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players any more. I think we need to tell Louis van Gaal that he is in

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the final! He sounded delighted! Is that for you, the Manchester United

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of old? A bit more what the fans expected? I think so. In terms of a

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spectacle, the game was excellent. Those teams played their part in

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that. Manchester United were brilliant in the first. Anthony

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Martial was a pleasure to watch yesterday. I enjoyed watching Wayne

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Rooney in that centre midfield role. He will probably give Roy Hodgson

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Sun issues in the future, good ones. And a specialist person in that

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position? I have mentioned over the week on the radio, even training

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with Wayne Rooney, he always ended up in midfield anyway. He is one of

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those players who wants to be involved and win every training

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match he is involved in. He knows how to play the role and I thought

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it was brilliant yesterday. Everton, I thought they showed real spirit in

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the second half. If it wasn't for the brilliance of Anthony Martial,

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things would have been different for them. Anthony Martial is being

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compared to the great Shola Ameobi and the great Thierry Henry Henri,

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something we were talking about just before we came on air. Yes. If you

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look at his display yesterday, there are shades of Henry of all. A young

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player, who came in for a big price tag, and he is starting to show

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people what you can do. He had a fantastic season. That performance

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last night, I think it was the best of the season for him, and he has

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shown everybody what he could do and he finished it off at the end with

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that Thierry Henry type goal. He is such a great talent. At such a young

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age. Manchester United played really well as a team. Didn't Louis van

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Gaal sound like somebody who were saying this is why I have to state?

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Don't doubt me. For the first time we have heard doubts about whether

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he would stay in his press conference. But also I am the man.

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If he was going to stay for another year, don't you think Manchester

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United should give him a new contract? We can't give you ?200

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million this summer if you have only got one year to go and you go at the

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end of next summer? Either he adds another year on to next year's

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contract or they say that is that. You have got to say that. It was

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entertaining. People like Marouane Fellaini were playing well. He got

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the best out of them. Everton rattled them but Manchester United

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came back and that is something we have not seen enough. Maybe

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everything that has gone before with Louis van Gaal will still count

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against him ultimately. Is that performance against Everton enough?

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Possibly not. I was listening to Graham Taylor this morning on Radio

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5 Live and he was asked if Manchester United finish in the top

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four and win the FA Cup, surely that is a success? Surely that is an

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improvement on the beginning of the season. I think it is. Don't get me

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wrong, I have been seriously bored with everybody else watching some of

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Manchester United's performances of late. But there has been a

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difference. Manchester United players will look at themselves and

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say they have not been overly impressed with the way they have

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performed as a team at times, but you cannot argue with the

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productivity side of things in terms of where they are and what they have

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got to go for at the end of the season. Still chasing that top four

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spot. And in the FA Cup final now. I think the bigger issue is things

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like the interviews that we have just heard. Manchester United fans

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will be screaming at the television asking for Louis to be happy. We

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have got into an FA Cup final and we don't need to be complaining about

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fouls and this and that. It is almost that connection between a

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manager and the fans which is still a problem. Most of the fans don't

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really want him. How can they tell him to be happy when they are still

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grumpy? We have seen empty seats at Old Trafford. I find it interesting

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that a last-minute goal, and all the players are euphoric, and he comes

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on air and you don't see any of that elation. I find it very strange. To

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win a game at the death like that, you would think he would be

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delighted to come through that one, and Manchester United are used to

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winning trophies and they have put themselves in that position again to

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possibly do that. It is a balance between the quality of football and

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winning trophies. 2007, first FA Cup final for Manchester United, could

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be the first trophy for three years, and that is what matters, getting

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back on a level. Yes, but they also want to play entertaining football

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which is what the fans have always wanted. It is like the players

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themselves are taking responsibility and deciding whatever Louis van

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Gaal's pragmatic approach, they will take it on. Maybe Anthony Martial

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knows that he wants him to take it back to midfield, but he is going to

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take that guy on. They are taking their own responsibility with some

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of his structural guidance, don't get me wrong. Do you sometimes think

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you won't listen to the manager and he will just play the game? There is

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youthful exuberance. The fact they have those three young players up

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there, you know what it is like when there is no fear in a team and that

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is what these three are playing. They are going out there, they are

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fearless, and I think that is testament to the three of them. They

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are young players and they want to go out and play and try and score

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goals, and I think that has really helped Manchester United this

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season, certainly with rash that coming in and doing what he has

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done. -- Rashford. We have talked about this a lot, but today the

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Sunday Express says that Jose Mourinho will join Manchester

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United. They say he has agreed a deal. They will not announce it

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until the 21st of May, according to The Express. You got the impression

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watching that press conference with Louis van Gaal but he was very

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stagnated in answering. It comes from a newspaper in Portugal, who

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would have knowledge of Jose Mourinho's activities. We know he

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wants the job and we also know that he has been getting twitchy that

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there is no deal on the table. The link to PSG that came out in the

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week, that came from the Mendes camp. But from a Manchester United

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point of view, I suppose it has been difficult. If he had lost everybody,

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everybody might have put their hands up and asked for a different

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manager, but now they could be in a final and fourth in the Champions

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League and qualifying for that as well... It is difficult. Overall,

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you think change is coming. Let's touch on Wayne Rooney again. Keep

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your texts and tweets coming in. Martin says it was Wayne Rooney's

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best game for a long time and he should be a deeper role for his

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country and leave the quicker and more mobile players up front. Does

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he justify getting into the England team in that position? Look, for me,

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Wayne Rooney when he is fit and available as England's best player.

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Because of the talent that he has, he can play everywhere and anywhere

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and he has done that for Manchester United. Listen, before he got

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injured. Look at the form he was in. He was scoring goals. Then Harry

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Kane and Jamie Vardy have come to the forefront, scoring all the

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goals, and I think it was unfair on him a bit, because he was out.

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People were saying that he should not be in the team. He is England's

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captain. When you look at performances like that, you see the

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value that he has, not just for Manchester United but for England.

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Certainly I think he can play that role. It is up to Roy Hodgson

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ultimately to try to get the best team he can possibly for that. Shaun

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Custis, before the last World Cup we were talking about the difference

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between nine and ten and now it is eight, nine and ten and he will be

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playing in goal and an ex-World Cup! Apparently he is very good in goal!

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There will always be questions. There are always questions about

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whether he is fit, feeling all right, best position, striker, is he

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ten? And now it is a question of whether Roy Hodgson names as a

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midfielder and a striker. His goal threat rate is phenomenal. People

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always say you have got to start with Harry Kane and Jamie Vardy, and

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I think you have got to count in Wayne Rooney and Delhi Ali. Welbeck

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as well. It ebbs and flows and there could be twists and turns before we

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get to the Euros. He has next if you goals here and there, but he would

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think that pace is getting away from him and it is important to have that

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pace. We have seen the impact that Rashford has had, stretching teams

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and getting them going the other way. I think you get more goals out

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of Wayne Rooney in that attacking midfield position because he has the

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ability to time his running. He will find certain areas in and around the

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18 yard box, where he is deadly, by the way, where he will not be picked

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up, and it will be difficult for defenders to mark him. He could

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almost get that new lease of life that Ryan Giggs got when he came

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into the midfield position from being a winger. It is well he puts

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his hat on him and says that you are my man and you will play in that

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position. Or whether his manager put him in that position. In every

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tournament, Wayne Rooney seems to be the dominant question. Should we fit

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him in because he is out of form, injured, and now should we fit him

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in because he has lost one yard of pace? We really want to pick Wayne

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Rooney because there is no argument about whether he should start at all

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and we have not been in that position for a very long time. It is

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difficult for Roy Hodgson. I don't see why he doesn't play Delhi Ali

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and Harry Kane together. I don't see how he doesn't and that almost takes

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that position away. And Jamie Vardy? Don't get me wrong, some people

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would say it is a good problem, but if Wayne Rooney was not our captain

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it would be a good problem. We have talked about Manchester United, so

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now Everton. Roberto Martinez is also under pressure, just like Louis

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van Gaal. We play a very good side in Manchester United and we have got

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to congratulate them, but in a game where we reacted with incredible

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fire and togetherness, from a football point of view in the second

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half we were dominant. As good as you can see in any football game. It

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is hard to take, but the performance was proper, and a typical Everton

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response in the face of adversity. That is Roberto Martinez who says

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after that defeat that they can still win trophies under him. You

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guys have been getting in touch. This one from Ground. He says that

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he can win silverware, but not with Roberto Martinez in charge. And Ian

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says Everton are going backwards and struggling to win matches, never

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mind silverware. Did they produce a performance that would have helped

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their manager yesterday? Would we have seen more fight in a Merseyside

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derby? It was a buffoon is the managing

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needed to get out of his players. Ultimately they fell short -- it was

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a performance. You can see the fight in the players, they still have it,

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they still want to fight for the manager. Albeit for a Martial goal.

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And the lack of quality finishing from the likes of Romelu Lukaku.

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Rationale does Montaner 's face similar situation to Louis Van Gaal?

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Off yes, the fans are not happy with what is happening. They are within

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their rights to not be happy with some of the performances they have

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seen. Going back to the Liverpool game, it all hinged on a ten minute

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spell for Everton. In the early stages, 425 minutes, they were in

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the game. In the attacking third it was like they did not want to pass

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to other. It's just didn't happen. If that had knitted together it

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would have been a different game. Two goes after half-time and after

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that it is the, that's it, Martinez has to go. I thought, in the game

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yesterday, those players showed a lot of hand and spin it for their

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manager. I'm not sure it will be enough... The frustration is that it

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is a far better squad than are in the league. Especially when you see

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at Leicester and Tottenham at the top and, they think this squad was

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good enough to attack that and they haven't. If you don't live or work

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on Merseyside he concedes from afar, the media, and I don't just mean the

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newspapers, the TV and radio, they are against him. They don't think

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he's the one to turn it around. They think his previous track record

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shows he isn't the person to take on a good squad. Sometimes it has

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worked from home, he is stubborn, he has kept Kevin Mirallas on the bench

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all season, he plays his way or the highway. He is self-confident and

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that can be to your detriment sometimes. In terms of what is in

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the Sun, today, I wouldn't believe a word of that of course...

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LAUGHTER How realistic an appointment and

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Eddie Hobby? A great fit for a team like Everton. He would go in, sort

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them out, get the best out of players. He has once tried this

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outside Bournemouth, at Birmingham, it didn't work out and he went back

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to Burma. You wonder if Bournemouth has become his natural habitat. It's

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a big risk to take him out. And he likes to play a certain way and he

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has his own philosophy. Which links mostly to the next chapter. We've

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been talking about the FA Cup semifinal, Watford against Palace.

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If we talk about managers tailing off towards the end of the season

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and potentially Quique Sanchez Flores, winning the FA Cup may not

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be enough to save him. Let's concentrate on his Flores story. Can

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you believe that there is even talk of him being sacked? Definitely not.

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He's had a phenomenal season. I think none of us knew what to expect

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at the start of the season. The semifinal and safe in the Premier

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League, if I was a Watford fan, I would think, he's done such a good

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job, maybe he will move onto better. There's talk of a break clause in

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his contract. 12 months break clause. As a player that you would

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think if I can perform this year maybe I can go on to something

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better. I don't know the communications going on between

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Flores and Watford but from his point of view perhaps he is still

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looking elsewhere. There is clearly something not right in the Watford

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camp for these rumours to be circulating. Coming to fruition. I

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think it is important to understand that Watford at the start of the

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season was one of the teams picked for relegation. Look at the job he's

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done. The fact that they are in the semifinal, trying to win a trophy.

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It is just ludicrous nowadays, where you'll find clubs who have come up,

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done so well, for the manager to be in this position. I don't know

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whether it has come from his camp. Player power? A quote from Flores,

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he says Watford fans need to know that he is completely happy there.

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We looked at the stats. The first time they stayed in the top flight

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since 1987, the first time ever that have stayed in the Premier League

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for two consecutive seasons. A brilliant performance by ten 2-mac.

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I spoke to him at Christmas for half an hour and he was really happy

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there. -- a great performance by Flores. This change is the second

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half of the season which dropped off spectacularly. Relegation form since

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Christmas, when a goal and scored one goal, he used to ban them in for

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fun. Two players lose faith? And because players can and go at

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Watford is the regularly, there's a big turnaround of players in and out

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of the revolving door, is not hard to foster a base at Watford? Equally

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the question of him going to Valencia. They are looking for a new

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manager. He spent to be interested in a job like that, as a former

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player. So I understand slightly worried he might look elsewhere and

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why the owners might think so. It's always the tabloids who get accused

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of putting unfair pressure on the manager and now we get a considered

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piece from Sam in the Sunday Telegraph! He said he had the best

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coat and scarf combination! There that Watford dropped, if they

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continue that next season they could be in serious trouble, look at the

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weight Lester finished last season and have played this season. He

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compares the two. You can see the argument. Yet the evidence of why he

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should go seems then apart from trying to better himself at

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Valencia. From the perspective of the club, Sam says it is the model

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at Watford, they have to shock the system. It's what they do. They have

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feeder clubs and they bring in six or seven brand-new players. Maybe

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you manage it with a new feel for the club is something they need --

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maybe a new manager, it might just put them ever run the club. It might

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not be a case of, we are not happy with view, Flores, realistic to this

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model because it will keep us in the league. This semifinal is a huge

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opportunity for Watford and also the Palace. They've had a difficult one

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since Christmas, getting the win against Norwich a couple of weeks

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ago, was great for them. To almost be in a separate season in the FA

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Cup for Palace, the fact that they are winning these games but could

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not win any Premier League. It's such a great thing for the club. I

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know the club and the manager well. He will be gunning for silverware.

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It is great to see the likes of Palace and Watford in these

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competitions and the later stages, great for the FA Cup, a think. Great

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that we've got this club is going for silverware. Hopefully we'll have

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as good a game as we had yesterday between Everton and Manchester

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United and we will see who gets there. What is Alan Pardew like in

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the dressing room, and that sort of stage, does it change, the way he

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talks to the players? , He is a confident guy, confident in his

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ability and his players. Inspiring? Definitely. He exudes confidence and

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wants his players to play with confidence. The rain that they were

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and would have hurt him. -- and then that they were on. They've got a

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chance to make a major final now. He will believe that they are good

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enough to win the FA Cup. Two wobbly teens, Palace, and Watford, they

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know what a fantastic opportunity this is for both of them. Even with

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Manchester United in the final there is a chance to win the FA Cup

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because they know that Manchester United have not been consistent.

:24:46.:24:50.

Bernat have come into form yesterday but you might catch them on a bad

:24:51.:24:54.

taste and you've got a great chance to win the title. Not just this

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match. Let's turn our attentions

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to the Premier League. Newcastle came from 2-0 down to draw

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2-2 against Liverpool at Anfield. Rescued what could be a crucial

:25:04.:25:06.

point. Afterwards Rafa Benitez spoke

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to Simon Brotherton. A good eight days for Europe, ?5,

:25:08.:25:17.

the win against Swansea and applied against Liverpool. Yes, it was a

:25:18.:25:23.

crucial game for us, for the confidence of the players. City

:25:24.:25:27.

conceded a goal and reaction was also positive in terms of belief.

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This one could be the same. I don't know because it depends on the other

:25:33.:25:42.

games as well. 27th change in the players in the last week? Yes, they

:25:43.:25:48.

are quite professional and they work hard. -- Tony Sims change in Bernat?

:25:49.:25:58.

-- don't you sense a change in Bernat? They work hard every day, I

:25:59.:26:04.

am very pleased with them. We will be on BBC Two today with my guests,

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so absolutely the Newcastle collections! Jermaine, what impact

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has Benitez had? He is known for his tactical skills, one of the biggest

:26:24.:26:28.

things I have noticed is a mentality shift at the club. Players showing

:26:29.:26:32.

that dedication and spirit, that they obviously need. Listening to

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have come together, I don't know if they've had a kind of team meeting

:26:37.:26:42.

to say, this is what we need to do to stay in the league. But coming

:26:43.:26:46.

from the camp is a positive, when you see the players they seem to be

:26:47.:26:51.

singing from the same hymn sheet and a pint against Manchester City which

:26:52.:26:55.

should really have been three points, and applied against

:26:56.:26:58.

Liverpool yesterday which was huge, coming from two goes down. In the

:26:59.:27:02.

first half, Liverpool was in session. And a couple of changes,

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and it was just a different side -- in the first-half, Liverpool were

:27:09.:27:16.

sensational. He's given that club hope when most of us felt they were

:27:17.:27:22.

going. As well as a game is important. The Swansea game was

:27:23.:27:30.

important, such a big thing to win at home and then go into the

:27:31.:27:34.

Manchester City game will go down and then come back, all this builds

:27:35.:27:42.

momentum. They really had to dig deep in the second half yesterday.

:27:43.:27:47.

The fact that they had come back just days before against Manchester

:27:48.:27:50.

City, they will have got belief from that. As Jermaine said, tactically,

:27:51.:27:57.

what the manager is trying to implement will take time low

:27:58.:28:00.

hopefully we'll see the fruits of that. An interesting discussion

:28:01.:28:07.

yesterday that people have decided that Newcastle went two of their

:28:08.:28:11.

last three games! It could be over for Spurs, Newcastle won seven games

:28:12.:28:19.

in the league season, where do we suddenly think they went two of

:28:20.:28:23.

their last three? I am sorry, I have supported them a long time and they

:28:24.:28:28.

always let you down! It is to order, whatever you say with those last

:28:29.:28:34.

three games, it's tough to stay up. Scoring the goals. They don't seem

:28:35.:28:41.

to come easy, the goals. All the hard work within the team. It is

:28:42.:28:48.

nice to see her paces back because he is a genuine goal-scorer, as much

:28:49.:28:53.

as Mitrovic gives you, he doesn't have the fox in a box style yet. I

:28:54.:28:59.

think that will make a big difference in those games. How many

:29:00.:29:09.

gays... Hanging will have had a draw against Manchester City and

:29:10.:29:12.

Liverpool? This is something the players can hold onto, the manager

:29:13.:29:16.

has come in and changed the mentality of those players, the game

:29:17.:29:23.

from -- the confidence gained from the last three games will hold him

:29:24.:29:29.

in good stead for the next three. Are as frustrated as Alan Shearer

:29:30.:29:32.

was that they didn't get rid of Steve McClaren earlier? In hindsight

:29:33.:29:40.

it is easy to sit here and say that. Certainly they've got themselves, in

:29:41.:29:45.

Rafa Benitez, a top manager, who's got the credentials in the Premier

:29:46.:29:50.

League, whether or not they have done it too late, only time will

:29:51.:29:55.

tell. Being a Newcastle fan myself, it is frustrating to Xavi change

:29:56.:30:02.

that has happened under Benitez. Why could it not have happened earlier?-

:30:03.:30:09.

back frustrating to see that. Suppose Newcastle go down on goal

:30:10.:30:12.

difference or by one point and then Benitez goes and you have to start

:30:13.:30:18.

again? That if he could be persuaded to stay and build something for the

:30:19.:30:22.

long-term, something Newcastle haven't done for so long, would he

:30:23.:30:27.

be able to swallow his pride and to a year in the Championship and come

:30:28.:30:28.

back? How long have we got to talk about

:30:29.:30:40.

Mike Ashley? Shall we move on? On to Liverpool! Mamadou Sakho is being

:30:41.:30:49.

investigated by Uefa for a failed drugs test, which happened after the

:30:50.:30:52.

Manchester United Europa League game. We are hearing it is a fact

:30:53.:31:02.

burn it similar to Yaya Toure, who was banned in 2011. Possibly a 12

:31:03.:31:07.

month ban for Mamadou Sakho. Can you believe it has come to that? I can't

:31:08.:31:12.

believe players are daft enough to take medication of their own without

:31:13.:31:20.

checking with the club doctor. And what on earth is a fat burner and

:31:21.:31:25.

why would you take one? I was always in the fortunate position of being

:31:26.:31:29.

absolutely ripped, so I was fine! They were chasing me! This is a new

:31:30.:31:35.

thing, as far as I am concerned. When I was playing, fat burners were

:31:36.:31:41.

nonexistent. Whenever you took any type of medication, it always came

:31:42.:31:45.

from the club doctor. I wrote a piece recently and I had a bit of a

:31:46.:31:49.

laugh with it with a few journalists about how scared I was to take

:31:50.:31:57.

Lemsip. They will go crazy on the Lemsip now that I have retired! But

:31:58.:32:02.

that is the situation you get into. Paracetamol and water, no matter how

:32:03.:32:06.

ill you are. I remember the cup final against Chelsea. I did not

:32:07.:32:10.

sleep. I slept for one hour before the game. I was up all night. I

:32:11.:32:14.

couldn't sleep, ill, and the doctor came up and gave me water and

:32:15.:32:18.

paracetamol and that was my lot. No matter what. I am perplexed in this

:32:19.:32:24.

day and age with all the media scrutiny, substance abuse not just

:32:25.:32:31.

in football but in sport, that players... Mamadou Sakho is taking

:32:32.:32:37.

stuff like this without thinking about the consequences. There might

:32:38.:32:42.

be rugby players watching today. In rugby, you can take a certain type

:32:43.:32:47.

of fat burner. It is batch tested, and presumably the same in football,

:32:48.:32:54.

but he has until Tuesday to request analysis of his sample. There is

:32:55.:32:57.

speculation over what type of substance it was. The fact that it

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has come to this, and it is this unknown area and he doesn't know.

:33:03.:33:07.

Exactly. Certainly a lot of footballers don't necessarily look

:33:08.:33:10.

at what substances are banned. There are so many out there. For me, you

:33:11.:33:16.

have got to talk to your team doctor. Make sure that everything

:33:17.:33:22.

you are taking, all the supplements that you are putting in your body,

:33:23.:33:28.

that they are legal. It is a very silly situation that he finds

:33:29.:33:33.

himself in. He could get up to two years, they say. It is the impact on

:33:34.:33:38.

the club as well. He has been playing really well and he is

:33:39.:33:41.

pivotal to everything that has been good about his club for the last

:33:42.:33:46.

three months. These next couple are just so important. They are possibly

:33:47.:33:50.

going to be in the European semifinals, and to have him missing,

:33:51.:33:55.

it is just a headache that you don't need as a club and you expect a

:33:56.:33:59.

player to behave far more responsibly. What do you make of the

:34:00.:34:03.

way Liverpool have handled it? Very efficient. Absolutely and they

:34:04.:34:09.

almost had the option to play him yesterday because of Uefa but they

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took the sensible decision and they work right white to do that. -- they

:34:13.:34:18.

were quite right to do that. They will be fuming with him and rightly

:34:19.:34:22.

so because you don't expect a player to be that daft in this day and age.

:34:23.:34:29.

Arsenal against Sunderland kicks off at 2:05pm today. A point for

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Sunderland take them out of the bottom three that they have a

:34:34.:34:36.

dreadful record against Arsenal, just one win. Arsenal have got to

:34:37.:34:44.

prove themselves. They are going through a tough period within their

:34:45.:34:48.

own club and their own fans, so they will want to put on a big

:34:49.:34:52.

performance. Sunderland have got games in hand, but Arsenal at home,

:34:53.:34:56.

it is as tough as it gets, to be honest. If they can take one point,

:34:57.:35:02.

that will be great for them, but there are three Newcastle heads

:35:03.:35:05.

sitting on the table so good luck with that! I will balance it out for

:35:06.:35:12.

you, Sunderland fans! When we look at Jermain Defoe, we look at how

:35:13.:35:16.

important his goals have been for Sunderland but he hasn't scored

:35:17.:35:20.

since the 2nd of January. His last seven have been away from home. What

:35:21.:35:28.

is that about? When they play away from home, you set up differently.

:35:29.:35:38.

That might suit Jermaine, it's sitting back, as opposed to being at

:35:39.:35:43.

home when they are the team looking to push on. That might suit him, and

:35:44.:35:50.

we all know that Jermain likes to run off the back of a defender. Did

:35:51.:35:56.

you ever get in that situation when you prefer to be away from home?

:35:57.:36:02.

Certainly, with the pressure they are under, and the position they are

:36:03.:36:07.

in, playing at home, maybe they feel under a bit more pressure to try and

:36:08.:36:13.

win games. That can be detrimental for performances. When you go away

:36:14.:36:21.

from home, the home team is expected to win, so that might suit the way

:36:22.:36:26.

that Sunderland and Jermain Defoe play. Off the bottom three fighting

:36:27.:36:31.

it out, they have the best goal-scorer, Sunderland. And as a

:36:32.:36:39.

team, we know that he might get one, but you can't say that about Norwich

:36:40.:36:42.

and Newcastle where is Jermain Defoe has been there and done it. He is

:36:43.:36:46.

possibly not Sam Allardyce's ideal type of man as a striker. He would

:36:47.:36:52.

probably prefer a bigger guy to take the knock-downs and Sam Allardyce

:36:53.:36:55.

himself has had to adapt to the way Jermain Defoe feed the ball, but he

:36:56.:37:00.

has proved that he can find a way to go, no matter what the tactics are.

:37:01.:37:05.

And he still looks as fit and sharp as ever. When you think he went off

:37:06.:37:09.

to Canada and we thought that was that and he came back and when he

:37:10.:37:12.

came back he wanted to play for England again and we thought, yeah.

:37:13.:37:24.

I have played with him so I can imagine what it is like! But he put

:37:25.:37:29.

in the work. He said to Sam, stick this lad here. I saw him, being back

:37:30.:37:36.

in Newcastle, and you look at him and he is so hungry and that is the

:37:37.:37:39.

thing with him, he always has been hungry for goals. He is going to

:37:40.:37:45.

look 20 when he is 50. Yes. He breathes, lives the goals. That can

:37:46.:37:54.

only stand Sunderland in good stead. And a question for you. Acceptable

:37:55.:38:01.

second place? When you see Leicester and Tottenham playing and occupying

:38:02.:38:07.

the top two spot, you think Tottenham should have done it. It is

:38:08.:38:11.

so long since they have won the Premier League. And Arsene Wenger

:38:12.:38:15.

said it is embarrassing that Arsenal are not above Spurs and Leicester.

:38:16.:38:18.

The accent is a criticism from the fans but he sounds like a broken

:38:19.:38:27.

record. ! He accepts the criticism. He says we were a bit tired today.

:38:28.:38:31.

Arsenal fans have got fed up with that and they want to hit a new

:38:32.:38:35.

message, a different approach. You are looking at me and thinking how

:38:36.:38:40.

can I dare suggest that Arsene Wenger should go, but the mood is

:38:41.:38:45.

really not great and there are a lot of empty seats and the fans are

:38:46.:38:48.

waiting to see if the board will make a big decision and change it.

:38:49.:38:55.

Many Arsenal fans will say that it has always been the plan for the

:38:56.:39:03.

contract to run out and let them go, let him go with dignity. I said

:39:04.:39:11.

second place earlier. With the demise of Chelsea and Manchester

:39:12.:39:15.

City not quite producing, this was the year that we thought Arsenal

:39:16.:39:19.

would step up. And it was looking like it at one stage. Earlier in the

:39:20.:39:26.

season, we thought they would. The problem is they are not really in

:39:27.:39:29.

contention to be chasing for it. A lot of Arsenal fans would be like,

:39:30.:39:36.

right, so long as we are going for it, that is acceptable. The worst

:39:37.:39:39.

thing I have heard from Arsenal fans of late is that they would prefer to

:39:40.:39:42.

finish outside the top four because that is the only thing to get Arsene

:39:43.:39:46.

Wenger sacked, which I think is unbelievable. Lots more to talk

:39:47.:39:51.

about. If you watched Match Of The Day last night, you might have heard

:39:52.:39:55.

this. Edit and hazard, the Chelsea midfielder, who scored two goals,

:39:56.:40:01.

his first in the Premier League. -- Eden Hazard. We have four games to

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play and we cannot be in a Champions League next season. We must get

:40:10.:40:16.

ready for next season. I get the sense that your supporters don't

:40:17.:40:19.

want Tottenham to win the league. We don't! The fans, the clubs, the

:40:20.:40:27.

players, we don't want Tottenham to win the Premier League but in

:40:28.:40:32.

football you never know. We are hoping for Leicester because they

:40:33.:40:35.

deserve to be champions this season, but we will see. We had a good game

:40:36.:40:45.

to come next week. Look at Jermaine Jenas's face! You have been getting

:40:46.:40:49.

in touch about those comments. Mark says it will motivate Spurs players

:40:50.:40:53.

even more. How embarrassing that Chelsea's season is about stopping

:40:54.:40:57.

Spurs winning the title. The fact that beating Tottenham would be

:40:58.:41:00.

their biggest achievement shows that Eden Hazard has no interest in

:41:01.:41:04.

Chelsea and no professionalism and he has got to move on. An exciting

:41:05.:41:10.

new future for Chelsea. He has said what everyone else is thinking. And

:41:11.:41:14.

has there ever been such a dramatic fall in one season in the Premier

:41:15.:41:20.

League? Let's cut those two things up. He is not going to sit there and

:41:21.:41:26.

say that he wants Spurs to win the league, come on! It is what

:41:27.:41:31.

everybody knows. There is obvious rivalry between Chelsea and Spurs. I

:41:32.:41:35.

am pretty sure that most of the league, most of the London clubs,

:41:36.:41:39.

would prefer a letter to win the title. Going into the game, I know

:41:40.:41:46.

it will be a good game and so on, but if Spurs keep doing what they

:41:47.:41:49.

are doing now, I don't give Chelsea a chance in that game anyway. We

:41:50.:41:54.

will see. As Martin Keogh said last night, if Eden Hazard had had last

:41:55.:42:02.

season's season, he could have got away with comments like that but

:42:03.:42:04.

most fans will think that he hasn't really performed this season. We

:42:05.:42:11.

know what happened at Chelsea. It is unbelievable that you can go from

:42:12.:42:16.

being the best player in the league to that. We don't know what is

:42:17.:42:19.

happening behind the scene. There have been changes of manager and you

:42:20.:42:22.

don't know what happens in the dressing room but it has been a

:42:23.:42:26.

tough season for Eden Hazard and for him to come out with that comment, I

:42:27.:42:33.

just find it unbelievable, really. Surely he should be focusing on what

:42:34.:42:37.

he can do for Chelsea and forget about the other clubs. You wonder if

:42:38.:42:43.

he had his head turned with talk of Real Madrid. You would know. When a

:42:44.:42:47.

club is coming in for you, you have heard word that they are coming in,

:42:48.:42:53.

how does it affect you on the pitch? It can affect you, it can, but it

:42:54.:42:57.

depends where you are at and which club you are at. Eden Hazard is at a

:42:58.:43:02.

top club competing at the top level in the Champions League. I am pretty

:43:03.:43:08.

sure his contract is very healthy. He is at Chelsea Football Club, not

:43:09.:43:13.

at a lower team. For example we have had issues in the past. For example

:43:14.:43:29.

Wanyama getting chased by Spurs. He is not a dyed in the wool Chafee fan

:43:30.:43:37.

-- Chelsea fan. He may just want to move on. It is more of symbol. -- it

:43:38.:43:45.

is more simple. He had that phenomenal season last year and this

:43:46.:43:49.

year special attention will have been placed on him from every single

:43:50.:43:52.

team to make sure they shut him down. Putting in specific players

:43:53.:43:57.

just to shut him down to make sure he does nothing. And that mixed in

:43:58.:44:00.

with the fact that Chelsea from top to bottom basically fell apart as a

:44:01.:44:10.

club, and couldn't but the performances together, that weighed

:44:11.:44:13.

heavily on his shoulders. They wanted Eden Hazard to save them and

:44:14.:44:17.

he didn't have the answers. With the start that the club had, confidence

:44:18.:44:23.

was down. I don't care who you are, confidence plays a major part in

:44:24.:44:28.

what we do. Obviously he has had a lack of confidence this season. He

:44:29.:44:33.

has shown it in his performances. I think the fact that they are playing

:44:34.:44:36.

left in the last game of the season will be thrown at them for the next

:44:37.:44:44.

three weeks. -- playing Leicester. We are not killjoys. We want some

:44:45.:44:51.

fun, in a post-match interview, because I do them and they sent me

:44:52.:44:56.

to sleep. Your man certainly led him into it, invited him to hang

:44:57.:45:02.

himself. In that match this afternoon, you get the feeling there

:45:03.:45:05.

are bigger tests to come for Leicester City. Manchester, Everton,

:45:06.:45:10.

Chelsea, they need to slip up and force base to win. When you expect

:45:11.:45:20.

them to win is when you get nervous. Gladio Raney Airey said for the

:45:21.:45:23.

first time this week that they have got to believe that they can win. --

:45:24.:45:26.

cloudier Renny This can change the mindset. Why

:45:27.:45:39.

change anything? It has gone so well. Three games to go, so why not

:45:40.:45:41.

go for it? After the late goal they got the

:45:42.:45:56.

feeling was good but now they know they will not have Jamie Vardy for a

:45:57.:46:01.

couple of games. Maybe he thinks, and must change the record, Latin

:46:02.:46:06.

and up, and the lads might have said, I like that, others might have

:46:07.:46:10.

gone, no, I don't know if we can deal with this. He will have had

:46:11.:46:15.

that feeling day in day out and he's made that decision. Wearing your

:46:16.:46:22.

striker's hat, how will this affect the way that teams play against

:46:23.:46:25.

Leicester because they won't have Jamie Vardy and he has been so

:46:26.:46:31.

pivotal. Opposition defences have always been scared off the pace he

:46:32.:46:37.

has. I think teams they will play can set up differently. Having Jamie

:46:38.:46:42.

there, running behind and harrying players, he has been a major factor

:46:43.:46:46.

in the success of Leicester this season. So I think it is important

:46:47.:46:52.

to note that it could have an adverse effect on the Leicester

:46:53.:46:56.

team. That goes back probably to what Claudio Ranieri said this week

:46:57.:47:02.

to give the players some belief. With Jamie Vardy being out, maybe to

:47:03.:47:07.

change the way they are looking at the games, and hopefully, we all

:47:08.:47:14.

know he is a top manager... You have to trust his instincts, it has gone

:47:15.:47:19.

so well so far. Yes, there is no doubt it will be a big loss, not

:47:20.:47:25.

having Jamie Vardy. Some people would say it would be a bigger loss

:47:26.:47:29.

of they didn't have somebody like Wes Morgan, don't get me wrong, from

:47:30.:47:33.

an attacking aspect they might lose a little but what has carried them

:47:34.:47:38.

for the last month is the back four. Without Jamie Vardy there will have

:47:39.:47:42.

to play differently. They won't be able to hit that ball through the

:47:43.:47:46.

middle because the striker won't have the pace. You are relying on an

:47:47.:47:52.

experienced manager to find a way of playing differently to get the

:47:53.:47:56.

results. They have got the results and hopefully that will hold them in

:47:57.:48:00.

good stead because every question that has been asked of them, they

:48:01.:48:07.

have been answered. If you are just tuning in, that is the voice of

:48:08.:48:13.

Shola Ameobi. Jermaine and Shaun Custis with us now. Our viewers have

:48:14.:48:21.

been getting in touch, saying, silencers, I think Leicester will be

:48:22.:48:26.

OK today but the best they can hope for is to draw with Manchester

:48:27.:48:30.

United. Manager says that those will do it, they have been the best team

:48:31.:48:36.

all season and finally have a great chance and momentum is with them.

:48:37.:48:46.

And the Spurs challenge, you will be at White Hart Lane on Monday, to see

:48:47.:48:50.

them play westbound. There's only one thing, they can do what they are

:48:51.:48:55.

doing and hope for a slip-up. The beauty of Spurs is that they are

:48:56.:49:00.

peaking at the right time. I was listening to some of the interviews

:49:01.:49:03.

with some of the players before and after the game with Stoke City. They

:49:04.:49:08.

can't wait to get out of the blocks. They can't wait to show these teams

:49:09.:49:12.

what they are capable of. You have got players like Lamela was having a

:49:13.:49:23.

resurgence towards the end of the season when some are tired. I've

:49:24.:49:29.

tried to find weaknesses and you struggle. That balances with, what

:49:30.:49:33.

have West Brom got to play for? I think Spurs will be too powerful for

:49:34.:49:38.

West Bromwich on Monday. Although it all depends on what Leicester City

:49:39.:49:42.

do today. That will affect Spurs whether they like it or not. Is the

:49:43.:49:52.

difference, Shaun, that Leicester could have finished in the bottom

:49:53.:49:56.

ten of the Premier League, and next season, Spurs will be challenging

:49:57.:50:01.

game if they keep their manager? Even Claudio Ranieri seems to feel

:50:02.:50:05.

it is now or never for Leicester. He does not expect this again next

:50:06.:50:10.

season especially if they've got Champions League commitments, which

:50:11.:50:15.

they will have. This is their once-in-a-lifetime chance. And you

:50:16.:50:18.

sense with Spurs but they could be going on, going forward. Although as

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to wander from the point of view of Spurs, they would be pretty crushed,

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if they miss out this season will that knotted them a bit because they

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will know that possibly they were the better side and they didn't do

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it. Like Liverpool. If you look at the stats, they on the one in

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everything. Apart from the important thing! It will hurt than 100%. I

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think there will be a feeling, not exactly that it is

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once-in-a-lifetime for Spurs but it was easier to do it this year than

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it will be next. Look at teams like Manchester United and Chelsea, they

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will be back in there and it will be even harder. Look at what Liverpool

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did. When they should have won the league. Look at the way they fell

:51:08.:51:10.

off next season and Brendan Rodgers lost his job. As much as we say it

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is now or never for Leicester, think it is the same for Spurs. If they do

:51:17.:51:23.

it they can win more. The kick-off at five past two in the Premier

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League is Sunderland against Arsenal, let's get the team news.

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Let's head to the Stadium of Light where Alastair Yeomans has the team

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Only one defeat in six games for Sunderland and Arsenal haven't

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changed from the team that beat West Brom on Thursday. Jack Wilshere is

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on the bench, significantly. This first appearance at the senior side

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this season after he broke his leg. Good news for Arsenal and for

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England. Thank you. Updates on five live. That will kick-off at five

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past two. We've only got a couple of minutes left, Shola, it's a big one,

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Manchester City beating Stoke 4-0 yesterday, Iheanacho hazards and

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stick this season and nobody seems to want to celebrate with an -- he's

:52:18.:52:23.

had some stick. Yet in 11 goals in eight starts, with Pep Guardiola

:52:24.:52:27.

coming in, a player you would want to keep, even on the periphery. What

:52:28.:52:33.

phenomenal statistics. Most every time he shoots, he scores. And for

:52:34.:52:39.

Manchester City, with all the money they have spent to be able to

:52:40.:52:43.

produce young players coming through is testament to what they believe

:52:44.:52:48.

in. The fact that you've got a young player like that, being able to come

:52:49.:52:53.

on, and Manchester City are always going to create chances, you have to

:52:54.:52:59.

take those chances. Look at all the press that has been behind Marcus

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Rashford and the young players at Manchester United. He has probably

:53:03.:53:07.

scored more goals than Russia and this season, -- then Marcus

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Rashford, this season, without playing as many games. If you meet

:53:14.:53:18.

him in the area is that a big difference? Know, everyone matures

:53:19.:53:25.

at different times. He's got a long way to go. He's young. He can find

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the back of the net. As a young striker, all that City are trying to

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do can only be good. Shola, thank you, Shola Ameobi, Shaun Custis,

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Jermaine Jenas, thank you, remember, Leicester against Swansea later.

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You can hear Watford v Palace on Sports Extra.

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Match of the Day 2 is on BBC One tonight -

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Jermaine will be back alongside Charlie Adam.

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Whatever you are doing and this Sunday afternoon, have a good one,

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and we will see you later.

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