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Facing down the threat from Islamic State. David Cameron says British

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forces must be involved in the fight against the extremists.

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MPs are debating Britain's role in military action in Iraq now. The

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Prime Minister says it would be a campaign of "patience and

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persistence, not shock and awe". Opponents, though, say bombing will

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This is not a threat on the far side of the world. We will face a

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terrorist caliphate bordering a NATO member with a proven determination

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to attack our country and our people. Opponents say bombing will

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only worsen the situation in Iraq. Is bombing the way to resolve the

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problems in Iraq? RAF jets are standing in Cyprus to

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carry out their first missions against Islamic State forces. We'll

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be getting the latest from our defence correspondent who's there.

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And we'll be assessing the role and the impact of any British

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intervention. Also this lunchtime...

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UKIP's plans for a new rate of tax - to woo what it calls the

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"blue-collar vote." The broadcaster Dave Lee Travis gets

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a three month suspended sentence for indecently assaulting a woman in

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1995. Police cordon off part of a park

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close to the spot where 14-year-old Alice Gross disappeared four weeks

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ago. And off to a good start. Europe take

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the first point as the Ryder Cup On BBC London: 2 more arrests in

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relation to Islamist related terrorism. A Surrey Hospital has

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been awarded the 1st outstanding rating in England.

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Good afternoon and welcome to the BBC News at One.

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David Cameron says Britain will need to demonstrate "patience

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and persistence" in its efforts to tackle the group known as Islamic

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He's been setting out the case for British forces to carry out

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air-strikes in Iraq, saying Islamic militants, who he described as

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"a bunch of psychopaths," pose a direct threat to the UK.

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MPs are expected to back the move this evening.

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Downing Street says a small number of British troops could be sent to

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Iraq as soon as tonight, although not in a combat role.

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Our political correspondent, Chris Mason, reports.

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It is the biggest question any national leader can be asked. It is

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the biggest decision any Prime Minister ever takes. MPs return to

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Westminster this morning to vote on British military action in Iraq. It

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is a vote commanding international attention on a day which could end

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with RAF bombing missions but began with debate. The Prime Minister...

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The question before the house today is how we keep the British people

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safe from the threat posed by Isil and what role our Armed Forces

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should play in the international coalition to dismantle and

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ultimately destroy what President Obama has rightly called this

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network of death. Is there a threat to the British people? David Cameron

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spelt out in graphic terms the threat both at home and abroad. Isil

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is a terrorist organisation and my close we have dealt with before. The

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brutality is staggering. The headings, crucifixions, gouging out

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of eyes, the use of rape as a weapon, slaughter of children. All

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these things belong to the dark ages. Ten minutes in, worries were

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raised. To questions he has not put to himself, how long will the wall

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last and when will Mission Creep start? This is going to be a mission

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that will take not just months but years. Will what the Prime Minister

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and the Government is proposing, will that be effective in destroying

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Isil? Look at what the House of Commons agreed to - Iraq,

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Afghanistan, Libya. None are success stories. Outside, anti-war

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protesters gathered. Not many but the last Iraq war is left millions

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sceptical about the case made for conflict. Back in the chamber, the

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Prime Minister pleaded, this time things are different. This is not

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2003. We must not use past mistakes as indifference or inaction. The

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Labour leader is supporting the government but is sceptical about

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bombing in Syria. In my view, or me are not talking about being invited

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in, it would be better to seek a UN Security Council invitation. This is

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the highest multilateral body in the world. There was support by the

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Archbishop of Canterbury but he said: We must face the fact that

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attractions of jihadists outweigh materialism of a consumer society in

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some cases. Will it be Syria next, at what cost and when will this end?

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This morning, the Foreign Secretary said that initially just 6 RAF

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Tornado jets will take part in air strikes against Islamic State

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fighters in Iraq, assuming the House of Commons approves that military

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action tonight. The Jets will be based in Cyprus, from where our

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defence correspondent sent this report. US led air strikes inside

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Syria. They were helped by warplanes from the United Arab area -- United

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Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia. This is not just the West against Islamic

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state. These images show the target. Smoke rising from oil

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refineries in eastern Syria. It is not just about hitting extremist

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strongholds but also their sources of funding. Britain 's contribution

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so far has been limited. Tornado is now based in Cyprus have already

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been flying over Iraq. We saw them over a few willing tanker last month

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as they carried out reconnaissance. They are expected to be directly

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engaged in the fight against Isil. For now, it will be a mission in

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Iraq. There are many aspects of the campaign, many things we can do to

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support the fight against Isil. We have not yet made the decision as to

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whether it'll be appropriate for Britain to join in air strikes in

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Syria, whether there is a contribution that Britain can

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sensibly make. If we did come to that conclusion, we would come back

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to Parliament and have another debate. British warplanes in Cyprus

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are preparing themselves for a lengthy campaign, one that could

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last months or even years. Six Tornado jets based here are now

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ready for combat. Laser guided bombs and missiles already in place. This

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is more than a month after America first launched its air strikes.

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There are far fewer warplanes. This will be a show of solidarity much as

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a show of force. Britain does have other firepower. At sea, the Royal

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Navy submarine, HMS Talent, is believed to be nearby loaded with

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cruise missiles. British special forces are also believed to be in

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the region. This is unlikely to be a high tempo campaign. Britain follows

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France, whose jets have already carried out strikes limited to

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France. They launched their 1st attack a week ago, the 2nd was only

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in the last 24 hours. As the extremists adapt, it will be harder

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to target them on the ground. That is where this bite will have to be

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one. -- this fight. During the last conflict in Iraq, there was a lot of

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public opposition to Britain getting involved in military action. Latest

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opinion polls suggest public support for airstrikes is in fact rising.

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Our correspondent has been finding out more. In just over 6 weeks,

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public opinion has moved significantly in favour of air

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strikes on IS, according to the latest YouGov poll. In Luton, near

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the central mosque, that opinion is endorsed in 1 business owner. If it

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is threatening innocent people 's lives, of course, military action is

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necessary. In high streets across the country, the mood in the UK

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carries on as before. The mood around possible military action is

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palpably different. Many think this is because of the execution of

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Western captives. Video is released threatening the lives of hostages.

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We spoke to some people on the streets of Newcastle. I think it has

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to be stopped now because, what will happen in the future? What will

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happen to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren? We need to

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help. Simple as. Everyone else is. I do not believe in war unless

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completely necessary. I think it is a bit of a risk for the country.

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Opponents of military action gathered outside Downing Street last

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night but today's vote would seem to be the final hurdle before British

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air strikes can begin. YouGov has been tracking public opinion on this

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for the past 8 weeks. It found that in early August, public opinion was

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divided on whether Britain should join U.S.-led action with just 37%

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in favour. A week later, that figure rose to 41% and by mid-September 54%

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of people supported air strikes. It is fresh week at 1 university in

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Cambridge. We spoke to some students to see what they thought. I think it

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is ridiculous. Really? Do you think it is ridiculous? Not really. We are

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just going to have another world war. There appears to be public

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support for military action at the moment. There are questions as to

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whether that support will continue military involvement escalates or

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stretches over several years. Public support is not a prerequisite. The

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strength of feeling can only influence the vote. Our assistant

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political editor, Norman Smith, has been listening to the debate which

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is ongoing. Tell us about the tone. Do not be confused by the fact that

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Mr Cameron will win a huge majority tonight. MPs are appalled at the

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barbarity of IS. They are voting on a motion which is very tightly

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drawn. It is specifically limited to airstrikes in Iraq. It will zap

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British boots on the ground. -- it rules out. I have been struck by the

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degree of apprehension, even trepidation, by MPs on all sides

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about where this will end up. In part, that is of course because of

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the shadow of Iraq. It does pose Mister Cameron with a problem in

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maintaining political consensus for this action. He is getting out a

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conflict which will last for years and years. He has said, future prime

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ministers after him would still be coming to the House of Commons to

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seek authorised action against Islamist extremism. But, more than

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that, I think, is the sense that trying to hold this consensus will

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prove very difficult if action needs to be taken against Syria. He

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clearly believes it may have to be done in Syria. Mr Miliband said he

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would only do that with UN authorisation. Already, you can see

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how that consensus could soon fracture. Thank you very much for

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now. More than 3 million people meanwhile have fled their homes in

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Syria and Iraq, escaping Islamic state fighters and the US-led air

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strikes. Our correspondent has been to 1 of the largest refugee camps in

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old in Iraq. This is a shelter for displaced Iraqis. You can see some

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of the residents have set up shops. They are selling fruit and

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vegetables and other things to eat. This man is smashing up some eyes.

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If you go through the awning, here the people have divided up the space

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into sleeping and living areas using this canvas they have got from the

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UN to give themselves some prissy. Not so long ago this used to be a

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cement factory. -- some prissy. All kinds of buildings have been

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converted into temporary accommodation. Huge numbers of

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people fled from the area around Mosul chewing the summer. -- during.

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Outside the factory you can see how the camp has expanded on all sides.

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3500 people live here now, most of them in rows of tents like this.

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There is a lot of support for international military action

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against IS. TRANSLATION: We want to go back.

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Whoever comes to clear our district, we want to go back to our

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city and take our families back. TRANSLATION: War is bad. People are

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miserable and there is no work and no money. All the people are

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miserable. If they attack IS it will be good for all the people. People

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here are telling us they will not be able to go home and less IS is dealt

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with effectively. It is not clear whether airstrikes are going to

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achieve the results they want to see and how long this will all take.

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That was Yolande Knell. That is crossed our chief international

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correspondent Lyse Doucet, in Baghdad. If MPs here in London

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tonight vote for Britain to get involved, just give us a sense of

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effectively how that goes down with people where you are. Is there a

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sense among people that it will help? Certainly the Iraqi government

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is desperate need of urgent international assistance. They face

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nothing less than an end -- existential threat with the brutal

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Islamic State fighters controlling a quarter of Iraqi territory. Over the

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past week, speaking to prominent MPs, people on the streets of

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Baghdad, they say in particular that Britain has a lot to offer. It has

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had a long history in Iraq, it has done a lot in training and

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intelligence, but it is equally clear that in the same way that Iraq

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is divided militarily it is also deeply divided politically and some

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prominent Shi'ite clerics here, who have their own men under arms, have

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told us they do not want and do not need the return of the United States

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and Britain to Iraq. They point to a past involvement they say is very

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sinister and they believe that the Western powers are coming here with

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other intentions. I think the British public has to be mindful

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that there are military risks in this campaign and there are deep

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political risks as well. Lyse Doucet in Baghdad. The debate here at

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Westminster very much continuing. I will be back with more from here a

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little later in the programme. Now back to the studio.

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David Cameron tells MPs it's in the national interest to

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confront Islamic State militarily, as it is a threat to the streets

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of Britain - but he warned it would take years, not months.

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The latest from day one of the Ryder Cup, where Europe has taken

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Fears from businesses that employees will be forced to leave the capital

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And we look at the team from Romania hoping to make it to

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UKIP has revealed proposals for a new rate of tax.

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The party says it would introduce a 35% rate

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Its annual conference is under way in Doncaster,

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with the focus on gaining what it calls the blue-collar vote

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From there, our political correspondent

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Nigel Farage is a man who has his own style of rallying the troops.

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After 15 years as a professional elected politician, UKIP is now

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Just think, this is what a UKIP Cabinet would look like.

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They've come to South Yorkshire for their biggest conference yet.

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They've come to spell out more policy ideas, but that's not all.

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It's no coincidence that UKIP has come to Doncaster Racecourse.

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Yes, they need a glorious open space that the 2000 or

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so activists attending demand, but just over there is the constituency

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of Labour leader Ed Miliband and he is the man and it is the party that

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This is a town where they still sell fruit and veg in pounds

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UKIP thinks there is votes up for grabs in the north,

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where a tougher economy combined with a wave of immigration

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I was voting Labour, then changed to the Greens, which is

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I haven't watched UKIP and their campaigns but with

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A UKIP government would stop anyone on a minimum wage

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They'd cut taxes for middle earners, down from 40p to 35p for those

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And the party has already said it will abolish inheritance tax.

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No tax on minimum wage would cost just over ?12 billion a year.

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It's a lot of money, I agree, but leaving the European Union

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Cutting our foreign aid budget to a level that was sensible and in line

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with genuine humanitarian missions would save as ?9 billion a year.

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Its detail that UKIP hopes will make it more credible.

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The truth is though for now just standing apart from

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The former Radio 1 presenter Dave Lee Travis has been given

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a three-month suspended sentence for indecent assault.

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He was convicted of groping a young researcher at the filming

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Our correspondent Matt Prodger is at Southwark Crown Court.

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This report contains some flash photography. He left court a guilty

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man with a suspended sentence for indecent assault. But Dave Lee

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Travis was anything but apologetic. Whilst I am relieved that I have

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been able to prove that I am not a sexual predator, I am mortified and

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I am really disappointed that I was convicted of one count and it is of

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little comfort to me that I was acquitted of so many others. Those

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closest to me, including my wife Marianne who have been by my side

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all the time, we all know the truth and I am grateful for that. A

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statement from his victim was earlier read out in court. She said

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that she had been subjected to an unprovoked and terrifying assault.

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Being called a liar and a fantasist had been painful. Just before he was

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sentenced, DLT shouted angrily at this journalist as she sat in the

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public gallery. She has previously accused him of groping her as well.

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I would have preferred it if he had a been sent to jail because having

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been on the receiving end of his behaviour I know exactly how serious

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it is and how unpleasant it is. DLT has been spared prison, but the

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reputational and financial cost of two trials has crippled him.

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Police looking for the teenager Alice Gross have

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spent the morning searching a park in west London, near the canal

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The 14-year-old's been missing since August 28th.

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Officers cordoned off part of Elthorne Park because

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of a patch of disturbed earth - but in the last hour they've ruled

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Our correspondent Richard Lister reports.

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Day 29 in the search for Alice Gross.

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Today, police returned to the area where she disappeared, examining a

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It's the biggest police operation in almost a decade.

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Search teams have covered some 25 square miles.

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Little has been said about what, if anything, has been found.

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A knife was recovered half a mile further up the river on Tuesday, but

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The new search site was identified a few hours

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after this police reconstruction of Alice's last known movements.

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She was seen taking power walk, which covered several miles.

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August 28, Alice left home at about 1pm and began walking south

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she arrived in the Brentford area and then at 3:45pm

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she started to walk back along the canal, reaching a bridge at 4:26pm,

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next to the area being searched today.

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This is the stretch of towpath where Alice was last seen.

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It had just started to rain and cameras saw her walking under

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this bridge but this is where the trail goes cold.

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CCTV had also picked her up at this point earlier on her walk,

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when she was followed 15 minutes later by Arnis Zalkalns, the man

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He too has vanished and Metropolitan Police have been to his native

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Her father is still haunted by the last messages they exchanged.

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Well, I was teaching in the studio and I

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got a text just after 3pm from her, saying, what time will you be home?

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and that was it, that is the last time I had any contact with Alice.

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Every tree, every pole it seems has a yellow ribbon to keep

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But so far no one has been able to say where she might be.

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The 40th Ryder Cup between Europe and the United States is underway

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The first point has gone to Europe with Justin Rose and Henrik Stenson

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beating Bubba Watson and Webb Simpson.

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Our sports correspondent Andy Swiss is at Gleneagles.

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Yes, welcome to Gleneagles. Glorious conditions for the thousands of fans

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here. Most of them hoping for a European win, but the hosts have not

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had a very easy morning. As the sun started rising the fans started

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racing. The most perfect Perthshire morning even for the loudest of

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wake-up calls. This was the first hole, at early 7am. That is what the

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Ryder Cup does to people, a wall of noise, colour and anticipation.

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Unbelievable. Worth getting up in the middle of the night. Oh, it is,

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fun. Exciting. We got here early and I cannot believe the people here

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already. Listen to the crowd over there. What is it, 6:30am and it is

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packed, unbelievable. The decibel is soon doubled. Europe's Justin Rose

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and the US's Bubba Watson working the crowd to a frenzy as the Ryder

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Cup was moored under way. -- roared under way. The hosts settled the

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quick. Sergio Garcia with an early contender for shot of the day.

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COMMENTATOR: Fantastic! Europe seized the first

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point. Rose and Henrik Stenson emphatic win don't -- winners over

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Webb Simpson and Watson. Elsewhere, expectations were dampened. Ian

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Poulter, a picture of frustration as he and Stephen Gallacher were

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walloped by Jordan Spieth and Patrick Reed. It was also a tricky

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moment for Rory McIlroy as his rivalry with Phil Mickelson produced

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the tensest of income encounters. It was not the only one. Thomas Bjorn

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rolling back the years but ultimately having to settle for half

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a point. The drama of the Ryder Cup has returned in style. So the latest

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score is currently Europe 1.5, USA, 1.5. Rory McIlroy's match going

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right down to the wire and strengthening winds could make life

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even more interesting this afternoon.

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Let's return to Westminster now - where MPs are continuing to debate

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air strikes against Islamic State in Iraq.

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That debate has some time to run yet. Let's talk to our assistant

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political editor, Norman Smith. Talk us through what happens from here on

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in. The debates will end at around 5pm. It will be concluded by the

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Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg. We are expecting 70 or so backbenchers

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to have spoken by then. They each have five minutes because so many

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want to take part in the debate. The final result will be around 5:15pm,

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I would suggest. The outcome is not in doubt. We know there will be a

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huge majority in favour of action. There may be 25 or so Labour MPs

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voting against, a smattering of Conservatives and Liberal Democrats.

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But all three party leaders are urging their MPs to support it. They

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are under a 3 line whip, ordering them to back this. This is just the

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first step in what is going to be a long, long campaign. It may prove

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much more difficult to get authority for action in the future, for

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example to extend those attacks to IS in Syria. Norman, thank you.

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There is continuing coverage. You can keep up-to-date with everything

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said on the BBC News channel throughout the afternoon, on BBC

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Parliament as well you can follow it there. Here at Westminster, let's

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find out what is happening on the weather front. Chris Fawkes can tell

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us about that. But all three party leaders are

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urging their MPs to support it. The satellite picture shows

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relatively clear, sunny skies across Northern Ireland and Scotland, but

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the sunshine is urging South. These are the weather fronts, a couple of

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lumps of cloud that have been working south-east across England

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and Wales. Those fronts are bashing into this area of high pressure.

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There is not much cloud left on the fronts. It means there is not much

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whether left either. A few showers, that is about the size of things.

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This afternoon some patchy cloud around across southern parts of

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England, the South Midlands, south Wales. Just about the South

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Midlands, south Wales. Just about thick enough to squeeze an odd light

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shower but that is about it. A lot of dry weather as well. When the

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sunshine comes out, reasonably warm, but a Scotland where we have

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blustery winds driving in heavy showers across northern parts. The

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forecast for the Ryder Cup, reasonable today, although with

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gusty winds. The winds get lighter through this weekend. There will be

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a lot of dry weather to come. Overnight tonight we will keep quite

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a bit of cloud across the south and we could see mist and fog patches

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developing. Some could be dense. The fog will be patchy nature. In the

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towns and cities especially cold but in the countryside is enormous

:30:15.:30:18.

contrasts in temperatures. Last night in Staffordshire, temperatures

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down to 14 Celsius. It could be cold enough for a pocket of frost in the

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coldest spots as we look at this night, with clear skies generally

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from North Wales and the Midlands northwards. A cold start for some

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for the weekend. A lot of dry weather to come. Watch out for early

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morning mist and fog patches, lifting into low cloud, with sunny

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spells on Saturday and Sunday. Saturday, mist and fog to start the

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day. Cloud lingering in the South before it breaks up. An odd isolated

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shower. By and large the weather will be pretty settled with some

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sunny spells coming through. Temperatures of 21 Celsius in

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London, 15 Celsius in Glasgow, which is close to the average for this

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time of year. On Saturday night weather fronts moving to Scotland,

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so changes here. More cloud around on Sunday with the threat of

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outbreaks of rain across the north and west of Scotland. Temperatures

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average. Elsewhere, sunny spells and temperatures above average. In

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London, 22 Celsius, four degrees warmer than it should be at this

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time of year. On the one side for the time being.

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Now a reminder of our top story this lunchtime.

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David Cameron tells MPs it's in the national interest to

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confront Islamic State militarily, as it is a threat to the streets

:31:38.:31:40.

of Britain - but he warned it would take years, not months.

:31:41.:31:41.

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