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David Cameron's direct appeal to the people of Scotland not to tear

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The Prime Minister's message is backed by Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg

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as all three UK-wide party leaders reach out to Scottish voters.

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Because I will be heartbroken if this family of nations which we have

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put together and has done amazing things together was torn apart.

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But for Alex Salmond and the yes campaign it's more

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a case of Westminster leaders who can't be trusted.

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What we are seeing today on the other side is Team Westminster

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jetting up for the day because they are panicking in their campaign.

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We'll be talking to some undecided voters, asking them what factors

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The price of caring for relatives with dementia.

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A charity claims those with the disease and their families face

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care costs equivalent to more than ?20,000 a year.

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How the giant stones of Stonehenge may not stand alone after all

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as evidence of a vast network of religious shrines is uncovered.

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The first Invictus Games for injured servicemen and women is about to get

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We're live 30 metres under Oxford Street as we take

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a close-up look at progress of the ?15 billion Crossrail project.

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Good evening from Edinburgh, where David Cameron came today with a

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message to Scotland's voters urging them not to embrace independence

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in next week's referendum, saying he'd be heartbroken

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He asked people not to vote for independence as a way of expressing

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He said he loved his country more than he loved his party.

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Mr Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband have all travelled to

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But Scotland's First Minister, Alex Salmond, said the three Westminster

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Our political editor Nick Robinson has the latest on

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You are looking at a man who knows his tombstone may read the Prime

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Minister who presided over the break-up of Britain. You are

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listening to a man whose voice began to break as he made a plea for

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Scotland to stay. It is your decision, it is the Scottish people

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who decide, but please be in no doubt that the rest of the United

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Kingdom is watching, listening, holding our breath and we care

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passionately about this family of nations and we would really be

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desperately sad to see it torn apart. David Cameron spoke to

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workers in Edinburgh's financial district in a way he has never

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spoken before. I think people can feel it is like a general election,

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where you can make a decision and then five years later make another

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decision. If you are fed up with the effing Tories, give them a kick and

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then... But this is a decision not about the next five years. It is a

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decision about the next century. It is a decision that is staring

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emotions and testing tempers. A passionate debate between Scots

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about what their country should choose. Down the road, the other man

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who should have been in Westminster at Prime Minister's Questions. Ed

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Miliband said he had come to Scotland to fight for fairness,

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justice and equality. I say the best way to achieve those values is

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together, not apart. I say don't choose an irreversible separation.

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Choose to stay together on the basis of those values. Solidarity, social

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justice, together not alone. From the head, not the heart -- from the

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heart, from the soul, vote no in this referendum. What he and they

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are up against is the ever onward march of yes. The campaign that

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simply can't stop smiling. They believe that every flight from

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London adds up to thousands more votes for them in Scotland. What we

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are seeing on the other side is Team Westminster jetting up to Scotland

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for the day because they are panicking in the campaigns. What you

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call Team Westminster don't have a vote. The people who may stop you

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are Team Scotland to voting no. Why don't you talk about them more

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rather than people in London? For the last month and certainly the

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last weeks of the campaign, we have engaged in a conversation with

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fellow citizens. Alex Salmond knows that his epitaph could be the man

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who is the founding father of Scottish independence. To complete

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the Westminster set today, Nick Clegg made the journey from London

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to Selkirk. It is a decision for ever. It is not a decision you can

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make now and undo tomorrow. It is a decision that will last forever. So

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what do drinkers in this pub make of all this talk of independence

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being, well, the end of the world? Do you feel like this is a big deal?

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Yes, it feels huge. It is on everyone's lips. Constantly thinking

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about it, constantly reading about it. A bit scared? Yes. Properly

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scared? Yes. I think it is a huge stab in the dark. He is a no and she

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is a yes but both could yet change their minds, both unimpressed by the

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pleas from Westminster. David Cameron raced out of Scotland just

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as he raced in. His message? Very simple. This is not about me, this

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is not about those he called the effing Tories, it is not about the

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next five years. It is forever. Nick Robinson, BBC News, Edinburgh.

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With just eight days to go and with recent polls suggesting

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the result could be too close to call, it's now a battle to win over

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A so-called poll of polls collated by the website

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What Scotland Thinks based on six recent polls suggests that of those

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who expressed a view 48 percent are in favour of independence with 52

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Our Scotland correspondent Lorna Gordon has been back to meet

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the undecided voters she spoke to last month in Fife to see

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It is the known as the Kingdom of Fife, a bellwether area politically,

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and an indication of how people vote here could be an indication of how

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people vote across Scotland. We brought people here six week and

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could go to watch the first televised debate. They all said they

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were undecided. They are snapshot of the people both sides have been

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trying to win over. Among them, Scott Ford and his sister Lauren

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Dailey, both in their 20s and both solicitors. There was more substance

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to it that not enough. You said there was not enough information

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when you were listening to the first debate. How are you feeling now? I

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still don't think enough information has come out. I go between yes and

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no everyday. I think yes is a leap into the dark but potentially so is

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no. You undecided at the beginning of this so how are you feeling now?

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I think my vote in September will be yes. Various facts and figures have

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influenced me and I feel my vote is not just for myself, but three

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people, myself and my two children. Karen McGregor is in her 40s and

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works as a carer. She was undecided when we last spoke to her so has she

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made up her mind? I am 60% no and 40% yes. What factors are

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influencing your decision? I think it is the pound, the currency. The

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yes camp keep the pound but we would not be in control of it. It would

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have to be set by the Bank of England. If we are in Europe, we

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will be ruled by Europe and the euro and that worries me. There is a

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really big conversation going on not just here in Fife but across

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Scotland. Families and friends discussing what they want for this

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country's future, engaged in politics in a way rarely seen. And

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it is the discussions taking place amongst undecided and still

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persuadable voters that could decide the outcome of this referendum.

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Lorna Gordon, BBC News. One of the biggest names in pensions

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and savings, Standard Life, which has been based in Scotland

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for nearly 200 years, confirmed today it was preparing to transfer

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parts of its business to England The company said in a statement

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these were precautionary measures in relation to the uncertainty around

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Scotland's future. The Bank of England Governor Mark

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Carney today sought to reassure banking customers that there would

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be financial stability after Our business editor Kamal Ahmed

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reports. With eight days to go, it was time

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for a message of reassurance. The governor of the Bank of England,

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pushed by MPs, said there were plans in place to ensure that everyone's

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bank accounts were secure whatever the outcome of the independence

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vote. We have been doing contingency planning. We have contingency

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plans. And we would obviously implement them if at all required in

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the short term to support financial stability. Behind the rather ornate

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walls of the Bank of England, they are planning what to do on September

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the 19th if there is a yes vote on September the 18th. High Street

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banks that I have spoken to are privately demanding a major

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announcement first thing in the morning. They want reassurance for

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customers with accounts both North and South of the border that those

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accounts are still backed by the Bank of England and the UK

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Government. The Governor of the Bank of England is not the only one

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making contingency plans. Today the insurance giant Standard Life wrote

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to its shareholders saying that uncertainty around Scotland's future

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meant that it had plans to transfer people's pensions, long-term savings

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and investments South of the border. Those who support independence have

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responded saying that the risk of financial instability is being

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overplayed. I think that people are worrying unnecessarily. I do not

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believe that will happen because these are strong economies. Scotland

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is open for business and so is the rest of the UK. Not everyone agrees.

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Today the chief executive of BP, the biggest investor in the North Sea,

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said it was important to maintain the integrity of the UK. Politicians

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from the no campaign echoed that view. It is Alex Salmond's Black

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Wednesday, if you like. It is clear that firms like Standard Life would

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have to relocate operations out of Scotland in the event of

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independence. Major firms like BP and Shall think that being in the UK

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makes the industry stronger and would encourage more investment.

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Three High St banks have told the BBC they are preparing for the

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possibility of a yes vote, making sure there is plenty of money held

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North of the border to reassure the public. The Bank of England has also

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made it clear it is ready to act. Kamal Ahmed, BBC News.

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Our political editor Nick Robinson has joined me in Edinburgh. You were

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part of the group following the leaders today. What was your

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impression of what if anything they achieved? What will be fascinating

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will be to see if people listened to the message, saw the messenger and

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blocked out the message. I don't think any voter particularly after

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today can be in any doubt about how much this vote matters, how much the

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politicians and the rest of the United Kingdom want them not to vote

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for independence, and the fact that this vote could well be

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irreversible. It is forever. On the other hand of course, Alex Salmond

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is delighted these guys have got on the plane from Westminster. Every

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time they do, you think that is another vote for him. There is some

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frustration also among the Labour Party in Scotland, who fear it is a

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huge distraction from the substance. There is some frustration also among

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the Labour Party in Scotland, who fear it is a huge distraction from

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the substance independent from the Governor of the Bank of England. One

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little straw in the wind here, and we watch them all now, don't we? And

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others opinion poll out tonight which shows another clear turn to no

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clear lead. The significance is not numbers. Any poll can be wrong. The

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real significance is no movement in this opinion poll in recent weeks.

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None at all. We will talk later. Thank you. We will be back later

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with a look at the timetable of likely events, depending on that

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result and the impact on key areas of policy. We will also be speaking

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to Brian Taylor, our Scotland political editor. Back to you.

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Thank you. Families caring for people with

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dementia are paying a so-called New research by the Alzheimer's

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Society says most care is provided They say it can cost

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the equivalent of ?20,000 a year. Our health correspondent

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Dominic Hughes reports. They've just four years, dementia

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has taken a terrible Carl on Bill. But as well as dealing with the

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reality of his swift recline, -- decline, his wife has seen it take

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their life savings. It has taken everything. Financial worry is

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constant. I lay awake at night when I do get to sleep, worrying about

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this and how to pay for that. Without my family I don't know where

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I would be. Campaigners argue that when it comes to the kind of social

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care Bill needs, families have to cope largely on their own.

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Researchers calculate the health and social care costs of dementia across

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the UK are now running at ?26 billion each year. But today's

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report says that those with the condition, their carers and families

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shoulder two thirds of the costs, more than ?17 billion. The

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Alzheimer's Society says that bill's story is all too familiar. A

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family whose life was torn apart by a diagnosis of dementia to be left

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not just with an emotional and physical burden, but also with a

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huge financial cost as well. If you have cancer, you get all your

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support on the NHS. If you have heart disease, you get all your

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support on the NHS. If you have Alzheimer's and other kinds of

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dementia you do not get support on the NHS. You have to pay for it

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yourself. But ministers in England say they are making changes to help

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families cope. The battle to improve the way that we look after people

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with dementia and the support we give to families looking after

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someone with dementia and the way we as a society react to people with

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dementia, that is the litmus test of our commitment. With the number of

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dementia patients predicted to reach 2 million within the next 40 years,

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experts say radical solutions to funding social care are urgently

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needed. Dominic Hughes, BBC News, Stockport.

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David Cameron, Ed Miliband and Nick Clegg head to Scotland to make

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direct appeals to voters not to tear apart the United Kingdom.

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And still to come - Princes William and Harry arrive

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for tonight's opening ceremony of the Invictus Games - but the Duchess

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Two hospital A units close as part of a re-organisation of the NHS.

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And Scotland Yard warns children from London are being used to run

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Last week, President Obama was marvelling at the splendid

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But now it appears that the giant stones may not be quite

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Using the most detailed underground maps

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ever made of the earth, scientists have uncovered what's believed to be

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a vast network of other shrines - including one that's a mile wide.

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The archaeologists say it's allowing them to explore what civilisation

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The scientists involved in this project say it is so special, they

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have learned more in the past four years than in all the archaeology

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done around here in the past 100 years. They have used specialist

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equipment to look below the ground, not only by Stonehenge itself but

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the surrounding area, in order to find out what led up to Stonehenge.

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What they found was spectacular. It is one of the most studied

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monuments on earth, but the Stonehenge landscape is still giving

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up its secrets. These are clearly man-made, not natural. Over four

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years, the project to map what lies beneath has found everything from

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the existence of this circular henge... It is a very short distance

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from Stonehenge. To giant pits, channels and monuments. 17 new

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structures that nobody knew existed. It is just amazing. This

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wooden long barrow is among the most spectacular finds. It is a communal

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burial site on 6000 years ago. It represents the very origins of

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ritual and religion. It is extraordinary to think that there

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have been samey investigations of this landscape and the land we are

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standing on now and nobody before has suspected all of this. Six

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square miles were mapped using radar that looks into the ground to chart

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the evolution of civilisation that began 10,000 years ago. Even here,

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at the well-known and well researched site near Stonehenge,

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they found something new. Beneath my feet, the radar discovered around 60

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holes, two metres wide, all part of a new unknown structure they are

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calling the super henge. It all proves that Stonehenge is not an

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isolated structure. It is part of a landscape where multiple memories

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and traditions started in Britain. In a drive to build ever more

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incredible monuments en route to the most enigmatic one of all.

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It's the brainchild of Prince Harry - the Invictus Games will soon be

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More than 400 injured servicemen and women

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from 13 nations will compete against each other over the next four days.

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But before that, 5,000 people will watch the opening ceremony

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Our Royal correspondent Nicholas Witchell is there.

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No cake tonight, which is no great surprise but William and Harry will

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be a very shortly for the opening ceremony. It is very much at

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Harry's personal instead and that the Invictus Games are taking place.

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-- personal instigation. London's Olympic park, busy once

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again with international athletes, preparing to compete and push

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themselves to the limit. Yet these athletes have a very special

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camaraderie. They have all seen military service and suffered life

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changing injuries. They are from the UK and 12 other nations. 400 of

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them, in all. They are here by Royal appointment. Prince Harry has made

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it his business to chivvy enough people to make it happen. It has

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been his initiative. He has been closely involved. It is a cause that

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matters to him. To get them together here and see them interact with each

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other makes the difference to me. It is seen how they bounce off each

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other, the banter, camaraderie, brotherhood, regardless of what

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country you are from. You have got people sharing stories of their

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injuries. For me, it is very special to sit back and watch it. Terry is a

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former soldier from The Parachute Regiment. He lost his right leading

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Afghanistan, six years ago. He says sport has been the most important

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factor in his recovery. I've always had something to aim for and look

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forward to. From everything in the army, to getting injured, then

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aiming for everything in sport, it means a massive amount. The

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competitors will use some of the Olympic facilities, competing in

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nine different sports. It has all been arranged in a matter of months.

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To organise the event on this scale took us seven years in the Olympic

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Games and we have had six or seven months but this. It has been a

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gargantuan task. The Invictus Games will be opened by Harry and William

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tonight and continue until Sunday. More now on our main story tonight -

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Scotland's referendum campaign. Attention is now focusing sharply

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on the likely timetables for action that will follow

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a Yes or a No result. There's more being said

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about the key areas of policy - in Scotland and UK-wide -

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that could be affected. Reeta Chakrabarti has been

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looking at the options. So much hangs on next week's vote,

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whether you look at the economy, defence all the way we are governed.

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We have put together a timetable of the events ahead, if Scotland votes

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yes next week, or indeed no. If it is a yes, the Westminster election

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next May will, Alex Salmond hopes, he followed in March 2016 by

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Scottish independence. Scottish elections will take place two months

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later. It is a tight deadline and there are already questions over

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whether it is realistic. If it is no, the promise of more powers the

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Scotland means the timetable is much less complicated but still full,

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with formal proposals the devolution in November, and draft laws early

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next year with the aim of getting the changes through before the end

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of this Parliament, another tight deadline. What will the result

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either way mean for the UK's defence, place in the world and its

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constitution? If it is yes, there will be huge

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political and constitutional uncertainty. Would David Cameron and

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Ed Miliband survive? Could the next government be formed with temporary

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Scottish MPs? There might have to be another general election when

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independence happens and labour may struggle to form a majority without

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Scottish MPs. If it is a no, with the promise of extra power, more

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devolution to Scotland, have to be matched in the rest of the UK?

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English MPs would want to make English laws by themselves. Either

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way, the way this place does business is going to change.

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The UK likes to think of itself as a medium-sized country which punches

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above its weight. If Scotland voted yes, with the loss of nearly a third

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of the UK's territory, though only 8% of its population, it might be

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harder to argue. It would lend support to those who say British

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influence is in decline anyway and we should lose our permanent seat on

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the UN Security Council, for instance. Allies would also be

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worried about the knock-on effect on VE you and NATO will stop if

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Scotland voted no, everything would be more stable. But it would still

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reinforce worries that Britain's future was becoming more uncertain.

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If Scotland votes yes, it would expect its fair share of the British

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Armed Forces. The Scottish Government said it would have its

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own air force, navy and army made up of around 12 fast jets, two warships

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and an army of around 3500 regular troops. An independent Scotland says

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it would be free of nuclear weapons by the end of the decade which means

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moving the fleet of four Trident submarines from their base on the

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Clyde, which could cost billions of pounds. If it is a no, little will

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change but Britain's Armed Forces have been shrinking and could still

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face further cuts. A yes vote would also mean huge

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questions about the currency and what the rump of the UK will be

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called. Westerns which would need very urgent answers. -- questions

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which would need. Our Scotland political editor Brian

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Taylor is here. We have had business argument is

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today and arguments to the heart so which will dominate? It was

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intriguing the Prime Minister was in an Edinburgh finance house,

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addressing people working in business and yet his primary pitch

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was emotional. It is about the heart and his attachment to the UK, not

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purely as a business entity but as an advantage for the people of

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Scotland and the rest of the UK. Those who advocate the union are

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getting example rated, infuriated with what they claim is a refusal by

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the other side to engage with the arguments from business, the

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complaints, warnings and concerns. The other side there are also tipped

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arguments to be made but there is a Delphic approach by the other side.

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They know they will be only talking up a downside for the prospects, and

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they are likely to stick with the other argument about empowering the

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Scottish people. I think we will hear from Alex Salmond and more that

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on 18th September, the people of Scotland will have their own

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sovereignty in their hands and they can choose to share it again with

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Westminster or give it to themselves. This has become quite a

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remarkable argument and a remarkable referendum. Thank you for joining

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us. It's been a glorious day here

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in Edinburgh - For most of us, it will. That seems

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to be the way of it at the moment, fine days and chilly nights. This

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was a typical countryside scene this morning, temperatures down to 4

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degrees but with the sunshine, they bounced back as high as 21 or 22 in

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a few places by this afternoon and it's not like summer. What a

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contrast with conditions in the West. In North America, a plunge of

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cold air, and across the northern plains of the US and the Canadian

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prairies, we have had a taste of winter with a Christmas card scene

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in Alberta in the last 24 hours. A real shock to the system to them. No

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snow in the forecast from EU will be pleased to know but it will turn

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chilly under the clear skies with fog patches forming. One or two in

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the south and more widespread in the North. Temperatures will fall quite

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sharply down into the low single figures in the outer suburbs and

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some oral spots. Higher than that in towns and cities. -- rural spots.

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The cloud will creep further west into central areas through the day

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from the east in the morning. A different kind of day for some. The

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best of the sunshine further west and another fine day to come across

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westernmost England, much of Wales and the West Midlands. More cloud

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further east but fairly moth-eaten, allowing some brightness and

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temperatures doing well in the sunshine, up into the low 20s, and

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the wind fairly light. Any morning fog will clear from the Glens of

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Scotland and we are set fair, a bit more towards the east and it will be

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somewhat cooler. On Friday, slow and subtle changes, a bit more cloud for

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some of us a bit less for others and a notable breeze developing across

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some southern areas but in the sunshine, we will do pretty well

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with temperatures into the low 20s. This weekend, it stays mostly dry, a

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bit cloudier and it will turn windier in general.

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That's all from the team here in Edinburgh.

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I'll have more at ten - but now on BBC One, we join

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