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Thank you very much indeed. That is it from Edinburgh we

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Welcome to Wales Today. Our top story: On the campaign Trail in

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Edinburgh. Carwyn Jones says he fears for the future of Wales is

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Scotland turned its back on the union. Scotland punches well above

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its weight. With Scotland got a lot of work would have to be done to

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make sure that what was left was stable going forward. A very big

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nation in England and two much smaller nations in Wales and

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Northern Ireland. It is the biggest constitutional

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change in centuries but when it comes to the money, would Wales be

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better off? A man from Denbighshire is killed in

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a shark attack off a beach in New South Wales in Australia.

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This solicitor stole ?1 million from a's estate to keep his failing law

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firm afloat. Megan is off to the cinema. Why

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can't people with hearing loss like her get the NHS to understand her

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story? Into night's sport, Welsh football

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fans travelled to Andorra in expectation. Wales kick off their

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campaign tonight. Good evening. I fear for the future

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of Wales. With Scotland votes for independence -- if Scotland votes

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for independence and night, I fear for the future of Wales. So says

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Carwyn Jones tonight. Independence, you said, won't be in the interests

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of Wales, UK or Scotland either. -- he said. Today marks a day of what

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is described as panic in the no camp. We will take you to

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Westminster where campaigners have set off to Westminster, we will be

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in Cardiff Bay to ask what an independent Scotland would mean for

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Wales, but we start off with this report.

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Never before in Scotland's history has every vote counted for so much.

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The momentum is very much with those on the other side of the

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independence debate. There is no doubt the no campaign is concerned

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about the developing pattern in opinion polls over the last few

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weeks, with support shifting towards yes, especially from labour voters,

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and so key Labour figures will be visiting the campaign, including

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Carwyn Jones. His message, avoid the risks of independence and stay with

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us. He is calling for solidarity with people in the UK. But not

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everybody is willing to listen. This is the Welsh Labour Leader's second

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visit to the campaign. In a speech in November, you said he would try

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to block an independent Scotland from sharing the pound from the fear

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it would be to -- detrimental to the UK. What about if there is a yes

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vote? Do you fear for the future of Wales in that case? I do. And lots

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of people this morning have been saying to me in Wales what they fear

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about what would happen. We are 3.1 million, Scotland is 4.8 million,

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but it seems a lot bigger because of the weight it carries within the

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UK. With Scotland gone, a lot more would have to be done to make sure

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that what was left was stable going forward. You talked a lot this

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morning about fixing the UK as it is. In that case, is it broken?

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Well, my car needs a service. It is not broken. I take it to be fixed to

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have a service. Whatever the vote, it is a settlement that is needed. A

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timetable has been agreed today on devolving extra powers to the

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Scottish Parliament if its people reject independence. But what about

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Wales? What about the future of Wales? What does it hold? My view

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has been that we need a convention progress to look at devolution in

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the round and to make sure the structure is the same between

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Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. My view has been that what

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is on offer to Scotland has to be on offer to Wales. We can then assess

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what powers would be appropriate for Wales to have from a Welsh

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perspective and to praise them as well. That is important. So we have

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to see what happens next week. Carwyn Jones wasn't the only

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politician in Scotland's capital today but they are not on the same

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page. He is a member of the old gentleman's club with Gordon Brown,

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Nick Clegg, David Cameron. They all want us to stay better together. If

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we were going to be better together, why aren't we better together now?

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It is not the first journey that they want Scotland to take but there

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are only nine days to go to get the show on the road and Scotland's

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future balances on a knife edge. Let's build a new union. Carwyn

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Jones' plea to Scotland today. He wants Scotland to bode no. That

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doesn't mean we cannot construct something better. In fact, he says,

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things must change. We have had those shortage of inquiries and

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reports recommending changes to Welsh devolution. The most recent,

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the Silk Commission, has led to new tax powers. And the noisy debate

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about Scotland's future, Carwyn Jones says the Wales voice needs to

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be heard. In Tony Blair's Downing Street, Scotland was seen as Wales'

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smaller, -- Wales was seen as Scotland's smaller, ugly sister.

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That is not nice to hear as a Welsh person. The Government currently

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uses something called the Barnett formula to decide how much to give

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them. Carwyn Jones says this is not fair to Wales. There were calls for

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the formula to be reformed. Will that mean more likely if Scotland

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votes for independence? Wales still won't have any great bargaining

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power and there is no indication it can follow Scotland, for example,

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and if it did, it doesn't have any oil to take away. So it doesn't have

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any bargaining tools. So it is a bit hopeful to think you would get a

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large change which would involve big concessions to Wales in terms of

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cash transfer. The head of the civil servants as the UK government has

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done no preparatory work on the implications of Scottish

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independence for Wales. The foundations of devolution in Wales

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and Scotland were laid in 1997 when both countries held referendums. If

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the next referendum in Scotland debate -- delivers a yes wrote,

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Carwyn Jones says we will have to fundamentally rebuild the UK. --

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vote. Much better to stick together and adapt what we have already got.

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While Mr Jones is calling for funding reform, his party colleagues

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in Scotland are telling Scots that if they stay in the union, the

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Barnett formula will stay, too. If there is a no vote, they have

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ensured a system which is very beneficial to Scotland but actually

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unfair, arguably, to Wales, and that will persist and remain. The silk it

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-- the Silk Commission has set out what powers are to be and not to be

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devolved. It also sets out regulations around police and

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justice is to follow. The powers reserved model is a much more

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clear-cut arrangement for devolution than the mess we have in Wales. The

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current arrangement of Wales is a mess. Neighbour with claim credit

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for doing the heavy lifting of delivering devolution. Wales might

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not get the same powers, says Carwyn Jones, but he says Wales must have

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the same structure for devolving more power heel, too.

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So in Wales, as in Scotland, there are proposals to devolve more power

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but not necessarily a definitive plan of what power and when. The

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Welsh government hopes those Silk Commission proposals can be enacted

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within the next 5-6 years but it all depends on the outcome of the

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Scottish referendum, a referendum now too close to call, and the SNP

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says talk of more devolution is a sign of panic by Labour and the

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Westminster government. We can cross over to Westminster now and speak to

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our Parliamentary correspondent. Tonight, the Scottish flag is flying

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across Number Ten Downing St. Tomorrow, Prime Minister's Questions

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will take place but without the Prime Minister. Let's find out why

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the Government is so worried about this referendum with the Secretary

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of State for Wales. Good evening. If Scotland votes no, it gets home rule

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within the UK. What does Wales get? What they need to be is a big

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discussion and conversation across the UK and involving all of the

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family of nations of the UK about what the next stage of devolution

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looks like for all of us. I think we are clear that, yes, there is an

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appetite in Scotland for more powers, but alongside that, there

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needs to be destroyed up discussion involving Northern Ireland and Wales

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so we have a coherent, constitutional process. We have a

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bill going through Parliament at the moment which is pretty historic in

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its own right in that it gives for the first time taxation powers to

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Welsh government. That is a big step forward in terms of the devolution

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journey, but the bigger question is whether the Welsh Labour Party is

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signed up to that because they have been making mixed noises about that

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themselves. The UK government takes decisions day in, day out about the

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welfare and for the good of all parts of the UK. The moment we start

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making our decisions based on second-guessing the outcome of what

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people of Scotland will do next week or on the basis of pre-negotiations

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with the Scottish Government, that is when we stop making decisions in

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the best interests of the UK, so it is up to Alex Salmond and the yes

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campaign to be clear about the future of pensions, the currency and

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oil revenues. But in a week's time, Scotland could be on the road to

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independence and you have no plan B or even E! Alex Salmond has no clear

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plan for what an independent Scotland will do when it comes to

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the welfare of Scottish pensioners... We are clear that we

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will be making decisions after the people of Scotland take this

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historic and momentous decision. It is probably the most important

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historic constitutional moment we face as a nation and is up -- it is

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up to the people of Scotland to take that decision next week. We will

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make our decisions based on what they decide. And you will be there

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next week? I will. Thank you. Back to you.

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The parents of a man killed in a shark attack in Australia earlier

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this morning have told us he had been living his dream life. Paul

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Wilcox, who was 50, grew up in Denbighshire before emigrating in

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the 1980s. He was killed as he went for his morning swim of Byron Bay in

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New South Wales. These pictures show the scene

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following the attack, possibly by a great white shark, in the waters of

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Byron Bay. It had been a typical morning swim for John Wilcox, who

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had emigrated to Sydney when he was in his mid-20s. Those who witnessed

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the attack tried in vain to help. I ran out to about chest height in

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water and grab the guy and dragged him onto the beach. The shark was

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probably... Maybe 40, 50 feet away. Paul's parents live where he -- in

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the same home he spent his teenage years. The shark attack has been

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hard to comprehend after just speaking to him a few hours ago on

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the phone. I had my lovely, lovely son talking to me on the phone and

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24 hours later he is dead. I still can't take it in. I still can't take

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it in that I won't have him saying, hi, Mum, it is me. This is the

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second fatal incident in the last three years involving shocks in

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Australia. The great white is a protected species and such incidents

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are. The beaches around Byron Bay have been temporarily closed. Back

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home, his parents will remember the happy and loyal son they have lost

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and will want others to remember how lovely he was.

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A solicitor has been found guilty of stealing ?1 million from his dead

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client's estate to keep his law firm afloat. The judge warned him he is

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likely to be jailed. John Owen, seen here as the coroner

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for Carmarthenshire. A highly respected post for a man who had

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built a legal practice spanning half a century. But today, he was

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avoiding the cameras, attending court not as a lawyer but as a

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defendant. This solicitor firm is now under new owners. It was here

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that John Owen ran his legal firm. It was he who was executive for a

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client called JJ Williams. Over an eight-year period between 2003-2011,

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he stole from Mr Williams' life savings, billing this -- the estate

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for professional work he had never carried out. The payments ranged

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from ?23,000 up to ?210,000. Mr Owen was arrested following an

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investigation by the solicitors regulation authority, who said they

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had reason to suspect dishonesty. Today, Newport Crown Court heard

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nobody knows exactly where the money has gone. During the ten minute

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hearing, John Owen pleaded guilty to nine charges of theft and eight

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charges of full accounting. The prosecuting counsel said all of the

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charges related to the state of the late John James Williams and

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amounted to 1 million. The case was adjourned until Friday the 17th of

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October for presentence reports. But the judge told him, this was a

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breach of trust of the grossest sort and that a custodial sentence is the

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most likely outcome. Much more to come before seven. They

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have been tagged Golden generation. Just over an hour to go till Wales

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kicked off their European against Andorra.

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And high bringing more fine and settled conditions into the weekend.

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Join me later for a full court -- full forecast.

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Discussions are in their final stages which are expected to result

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in hundreds of new jobs in the financial services and Wales. We

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understand tonight the accountancy and bigness -- business support

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company Deloitte is due to make an announcement. What is this

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investment about? What we're seeing is quite a change in what we used

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called tax policies and it is not just taxation but it is consultancy,

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if you like. KPMG have been looking at some similar things before and it

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is moving out from the sort of centre of the City. We think of the

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city of London when we think of top accountants. Big, expensive

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buildings with accountants advising those around the world. We are

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seeing the development of something that has already started in Cardiff,

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and that is the global risk management, as it is called, being

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done here and done in every different way. If you remember, the

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introduced 100 people in the centre a year ago and we are expecting

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hundreds more to join them. -- they introduced. But it is cheaper than

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London? Yes, office space is a quarter of what it is in London and

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salaries are 20% below, but more than that, it is a different way of

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doing business and advising people on tax around the world.

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Councillors in Denbighshire have voted to merge with con wisher. The

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number of local authorities is to be reduced from 22 to 12. The matter is

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to be discussed later this month. Last month it was announced that in

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Parry Jones is to take a vote of absence on full pay. He is being

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investigated by police over cash payments he received in place of

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pension payments. Imagine not being able to hear your

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name being called for an appointment at hospital or not understanding

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what a doctor is telling you. That is what can happen if a hearing loop

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is not installed for those who use hearing aids. According to the

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charity Action On Hearing Loss, patients are being put at risk

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because over half of those devices in the NHS are not working.

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Megan Reynoldson from Monmouth was born deaf.

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She uses hearing aids and comes to her local cinema all the time.

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That's because they have hearing loops installed here.

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They cut out background noise and transmit the sounds she needs to

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hear directly to her hearing aids, like the audio from this film.

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But she can't rely on the hearing loops working

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They are so unreliable that she has two take a friend

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so she doesn't miss her name being called or misunderstand what staff

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It's actually like being treated differently.

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And it's not feeling part of the community.

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Mike Sulley from Bridgend says it took years before he got the correct

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This device sends audio to his hearing aids, in work,

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in meetings and even the sound from the TV at home.

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It's absolutely outstanding, the things it does.

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They say they're going to look into it now, this latest thing, they say

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I say to the outboards, get down onto it.

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Community health councils in Wales act as a patient watchdog.

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They use these devices to test hearing loops in the NHS.

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Nearly half of the places they visited did not

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have working hearing loops or staff didn't know how to use them.

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People shouldn't be made to feel like second-class dozens

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and have an interpreter just because you haven't got the right equipment

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The budget for doing the testing again has been

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But it insists it is committed to ensuring people can access the

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healthcare they need and will be speaking to NHS staff and charities

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We know there's a lot of work going on in implementing

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the healthcare standards in Wales but the situation where we have got

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basic things like loops not working I think is not good enough

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and it is a very disappointing picture that is emerging.

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Some health boards have made changes but many hearing loops still don't

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work several months after the problems were first highlighted.

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Without improvement soon, Megan is concerned

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for over half a million people like her with hearing loss in Wales.

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It is a big night for Welsh football fans. Here is the sport.

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Many believe it is their best chance in years to qualify for a major

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tournament. Wales kicked off their European qualifying campaign in

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Andorra tonight and fans have travelled not in hope but in

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expectation of getting a result, with the likes of Gareth Bale and

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Aaron Ramsey running out. They will be expecting a winning start because

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of this. It must be the mountain air all the

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money you save living in a tax haven! But people in this

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principality have an average life expectancy of 84. The

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quality-of-life here is clearly high. The quality of the National

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Football League, less so. They have only won one match in their history

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and that was ten years ago. TRANSLATION: The problem we have

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against Wales is they have produced a group of special players in the

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same generation and they are fearsome opponents because they

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really believe they can qualify. Much has been made of Andorra's

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artificial pitch at their new low-key stadium, but it will be the

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first time for both sides. Such is the strength of Wales with their

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World Cup -- world-class players and lots of Premier League players, they

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would be confident of winning on any surface. This crop of players we

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have is a very, very good crop. There's no getting away from that.

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My job is to protect them and I keep saying, not yet, we need to produce

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the goods, and then they can be the golden generation. Over the next few

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months, Wales will travel across the continent in a bid to qualify for

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Euro 2016. Belgium are the favourites to finish top. They are

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their highest ranked opposition. They also meet the challenge of

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travelling to Israel next March. Games cannot be played there at the

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moment because of the security situation. Wales will expect maximum

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points home and away against Cyprus. A change in the cupboard to show 's

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has also helped their cause. The top two will qualify automatically while

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even third place would be good enough to go through to a playing --

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play-off match. -- a change in the conditions. Fans also sense things

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are different this year. Many have travelled a long way to be here.

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Your country comes first. You do it for your country. It is my first

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trip away with Wales. I'd usually go for the rugby but I tried football

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this year. I live in Thailand now. I came back specifically for this game

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because I followed Wales away for 30 plus years and I've never been here.

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Andorra is certainly an exciting mix of culture and language. Spain and

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France are minutes away. By tempi tonight, Wales hope they will be

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that bit closer themselves to France. -- by 10pm.

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We will have a full match report for you in our late bulletin.

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Stage three of the tour of Britain headed to the hills today, with the

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more than 70 riders taking to the road to face the 180 kilometres

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challenge. It was the Italian rider who timed his late break to

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perfection to win on one of the most famous climbs. The defending

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champion, Bradley Wiggins, came home in fifth.

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Cricket, and Glamorgan were bowled out for 282 on the opening day of

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their championship match adoption. Chris Cooke top-scored.

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Time for the weather. No complains, it is lovely out there.

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That is a great way of describing it. But it will be chilly as the sun

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sets. Do take an extra layer with you to see that full moon. It will

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be a bit nippy out there. High pressure is in charge for the moment

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and over the next two days, bringing more fine and settled weather, and,

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if anything, it will start to feel warmer. Once the sun sets, we will

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see clear skies with perfect conditions to see some mist and fog

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forming. Those temperatures getting down to 7 degrees but in the

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countryside, getting down to about four, with wind remaining light.

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Once the mist and fog lift, another beautiful day. More in the way of

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sunshine to look forward to with the sea temperatures at 17, so not too

:25:54.:25:57.

bad if you want to take a dip in the ocean. The temperatures have been

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struggling across Anglesey but gradually over the next few days,

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those. To feel warmer. Tomorrow night, another fairly quiet nights

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to come. Clear skies again and also some mist and fog forming in the

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early hours of Thursday. Another chilly night under the clear skies

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with temperatures in towns and cities at eight to 12. Thursday,

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another glorious day with high pressure still firmly in charge.

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More in the way of sunshine with temperatures a tad cooler but highs

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of 18 to 20 in the sunshine. Light winds. A bit more cloud as we go

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into Friday with sunny spells coming through, but certainly the sky is

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not as blue as they have been recently. As we head into the

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weekend, more in the way of cloud but still settled and dry, so if you

:26:55.:26:59.

have any outdoor activities, it is not looking too bad. Milder by night

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with temperatures creeping back into double figures for the overnight

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period into the weekend and early next week.

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The First Minister says he fears for the future of Wales and Scotland

:27:13.:27:17.

votes for independence. Carwyn Jones, who is in Edinburgh, says

:27:18.:27:22.

independence will not be in the interests of Wales.

:27:23.:27:25.

A 50-year-old man who grew up in Denbighshire has been killed in a

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shark attack in Australia. Paul Wilcox was killed as he swam off

:27:30.:27:33.

Byron Bay in New South Wales earlier this morning.

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I will have an update here for you at 8pm and then after ten. Don't

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forget our email address. Thank you for watching. Good evening.

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