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It is a ludicrous situation. The the Chief Executive of Pembrokeshire

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It is a ludicrous situation. The suspension should have been

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immediate and I cannot believe we are in a position we are

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And 145 jobs under threat with the closure of the historic

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David Pickering fails to get re-elected to the board.

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Marking three quarters of a century of aero-engineering

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at the Airbus plant in Broughton, with a royal visit.

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And documenting the rise of Swansea city.

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How they're hoping to score at the box office, as well as in

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After row over unlawful payments, the Chief Executive

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of Pembrokeshire Council loses a vote of confidence and will face

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Despite Pembrokeshire council unanimously voting that they had no

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confidence, they stopped short of suspending him. Tonight, he remains

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in the post. Unison, who represent council

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workers have said tonight that a dark cloud has been lifted from

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County Hall. Finally the troubled waters that

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have rocked this authority may be soothed, by moves to cut

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their highest paid employee adrift. Today the tide turned against

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chief executive Bryn Parry Jones. 46 members voted to support a motion

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of no confidence in him, with only Even previous supporters

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like the council leader decided Circumstances have shifted

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considerably. Over the last three months, there have been a number of

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elements that have led to today's decision. They have been clear about

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my relationship with the Chief Executive. Leaders and chief

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executives are not so popular. The local papers have been full of

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validation -- headlines. Allegations have included his role in a recent

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pension payments scandal. Also his conduct towards councillors. And his

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actions in the case of a youth worker, who was later convicted on

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paedophile charges. There had been an option to suspend

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Mr Parry Jones immediately It is a ludicrous situation. The

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suspension should have been immediate and I cannot believe we

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are in the situation now. I'm extremely concerned also that the

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motion that has gone through council paves the way for a deal for the

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Chief Executive. That is a golden goodbye potentially and that is not

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something I think should be entertained.

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A disciplinary committee to consider Bryn Parry Jones is likely to meet

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next week, but experts warn the process could

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You cannot just sack someone. They have to go through a disciplinary

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procedure. He is the head of the council. Nobody can actually

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investigate him. You have to appoint somebody who is independent, has an

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open mind. That person has to be paid. They are normally a QC. They

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cost a great deal of money. It takes some time to investigate

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allegations. Then you've some time to investigate

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a decision. Public anger has grown. Some may question the delay

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but today those opinions have been Nearly 150 jobs are at risk

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after the University of South Wales announced plans to close

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its campus at Caerleon. It comes a year after the merger of

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Glamorgan and Newport universities and tonight opposition parties have

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criticised the Welsh government over a promise that mergers would

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not mean campus closures. Clearing up

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after graduation ceremonies but could they have been

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the last held at Caerleon campus? Staff were told this morning this

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year's intake is to be the last and the site will close over the

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next two years, with courses moved to either Cardiff or Newport's City

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campus, with 145 jobs at risk. It's had different names over the

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years but courses have been on offer But when the University of

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South Glamorgan was formed, it inherited several campuses,

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a review of that estate means staff here were told this morning

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this site is to close. Instead,

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investment will be ploughed in here at the Newport City Campus,

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one of the university's three remaining sites, with the potential

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for expansion on neighbouring land. When we look at what is going on in

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the university sector as a whole, students are fee-paying, students

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are voting with their feet as to where they will go and won't go. Our

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competitors are investing very heavily in the future. We have to

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keep pace with not only investment we've already done but more

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investment and we went to secure our recruitment and secure ourselves as

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the largest university in Wales. We are having to take some difficult

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decisions. Back in 2010 the then education

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minister, Leighton Andrews, explained that mergers were

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necessary, but said fewer higher education institutions did not mean

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fewer campuses, another broken This is the heart of the student

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experience, whether union is, whether sports clubs were. You lose

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all that. This so-called promise of another building or more facilities,

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we've had promises from them before. We just don't see that happening. I

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hope I'm wrong in that regard but I don't see it happening and what we

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are seeing is a continual drain. The Welsh Government said,

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that though the campus's future is entirely for the university,

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if the merger hadn't happened it's entirely possible there would now be

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no HE presence in Newport at all. Some breaking rugby news tonight:

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Claire's here with the details. Good evening. David Pickering has

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been ousted as Chairman of the Welsh Rugby Union

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after being voted off the board. Gareth Davies, the current

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Chief Executive of the Dragons and former Wales International Anthony

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Buchanan, have been elected instead. Pickering will leave the post next

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month ending an 12 year tenure. Scrum V Presenter Ross Harries is

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at Rodney Parade ahead I think it is a big shock. There

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were two nationally appointed positions up for grabs, one of which

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was the one which David Pickering was an incumbent. The other came

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about because of Gerald Davies's resignation. The wider public

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probably assumed David Pickering would retain his position as one of

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the National League appointed directors. He is chairman of the

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board. Of the 320 clubs in Wales, probably only about 70 are genuinely

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politically active and it was thought that the status quo would

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prevail and David Pickering. Gareth Davies was a favourite to get the

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other. This has come as a shock today. The board reconvenes on the

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19th of October and a new chairman will need to be elected them.

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How do you think this news will be received among the rugby world?

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As with most things in Welsh rugby, there are two sides to every story.

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There are those who are big fans of David Pickering. They will say he

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presided over one of the most successful periods of Welsh rugby at

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national level, three grand slams, 16 Nations championship, a semifinal

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of a World Cup and the debt on the stadium which had for long been an

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albatross, reduced to manageable levels. It's also seen... The

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concentration of reducing the debt, cutting ties to the grassroots game

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and so on. Until recently, game was locked in a demand -- damaging

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dispute, one that has only just ended. It could be said that under

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his tenure, perhaps that wasn't handled particularly well. Two sides

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to every story but it is the end of an era. He had been at the helm for

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11 years. Tonight, we are hoping to switch attention from politics and

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back to rugby because we have a big Welsh derby saving. It is the

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Dragons to the ospreys. A 45-year-old man has appeared

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in court in Newport accused Mark Jones is charged with

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the murder of one month old Amelia Jones in the Pontnewydd area

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of Cwmbran in November 20-12. He's also charged with conspiracy

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to pervert the course of justice. Plaid Cymru has made

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its first key pledge for next year's general election

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saying it will push for a living The living wage is currently

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?7.65 an hour while the Plaid says the policy would

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benefit 250,000 workers in Wales. Allegations

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of historical abuse against a former children's home worker in

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North Wales would have amounted to 19 people came forward to give

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information about Peter Howarth who was deputy

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head of the Bryn Estyn home. We can speak to Matthew Ricards now.

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What have these people been told? These were people who spoke to

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officers from an operation which has been set up by the National crime

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agency to look at fresh allegations into historical abuse in North

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Wales. 19 of these people made allegations against Peter Howarth.

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He was jailed for ten years back in 1994 and that was for eight sexual

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offences against boys at the home. He died three years into that

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sentence at Wakefield prison. Today, the operation has said that after

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cooperating and speaking to the Crown Prosecution Service,

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information from those 19 people would have helped link him to 38

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offences. They said it is very difficult to say whether he would

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have been charged with those offences because he is not alive to

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be interviewed about his allegations. It is all part of the

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attempt by the operation to take his allegations seriously, whether they

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are up against people who are still alive or those who have since died

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first they appreciate it is very difficult for people to make his

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allegations after many years, and painful. They want people to know

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that his investigations are taken seriously and they are updated.

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Still to come on tonight's programme:

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Marking three quarters of a century of aero-engineering

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at the Airbus plant in Broughton, with a royal visit.

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And how Swansea city are hoping to score at the box office, as well as

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in tomorrow's top of the table clash.

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Speaking while campaigning in Dundee, Alex Salmond claimed the

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impact of cutbacks on the UK Government are damaging the NHS

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here. It has been a busy day of

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campaigning. With less than a week to go until the referendum, the

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SNP's top brass were on a tour of Scotland's seven cities, including

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Dundee. Alex Salmond paid a flying visit to this city but he had time

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to talk about Wales. The reason that the Welsh First Minister is reducing

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national health and the chair in Wales, going down in real terms, was

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not because he wants to do it big -- but because he has to do with cuts

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from government. Earlier in a week, Colin Jones hit the campaign trail

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Alex Salmond had previously said... That's wrong. I tell you what

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happened. I said to the prime Minster that it would be very

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difficult for me to go to Scotland with credibility if they didn't

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implement part one of Silk. That is important for Wales. How could I go

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to Scotland and argue for a no vote when the first question I would be

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asked is, this is sitting with Whitehall and they've done nothing

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about it. They did do something about it and made it easier for me

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to put forward what I believed in, which is that Scotland should vote

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no. I think it is unfortunate that politics have come to the extent

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that the Welsh First Minister has two say to a Tory government, I

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would come and campaign for you in Scotland unless you give Wales

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something. The currency in people 's pockets has been a hot topic of

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debate. Jones says he will try and block the SNP's preferred option to

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share the pound but the SNP leader dismissed the threat, saying he is

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powerless to do so. Debate over such issues as intensified here as

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polling day nears. With the independents and Unionist caps neck

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and neck, all eyes are Scotland. Wales, most people want Scotland to

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stay in the union. Alex Salmond and the yes supporters are hoping to

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disappoint them next week. You can see more

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of that interview with Carwyn Jones on Sunday Politics Wales, here on

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BBC One Wales, this Sunday at 11am. How have Alex Salmond and the SNP

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managed to be more successful in comparison to Wales's nationalist

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party, Pied Camry? I am in Blackwood. In the first

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assembly elections, Pied Camry pulled off a huge shock by winning

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in Labour stronghold areas like this. 15 years later, it has lost

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this seat to Labour and is the third biggest party at the assembly. In

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contrast, the SNP is running the Scottish Government and is in the

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middle of an independence campaign. So what happened to Pied Camry? --

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Plaid Cymru. In this cinema, the former leader of

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the party and presiding officer joins me for a matinee viewing of

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some of his party's celebrations in 1999. Has it gone wrong? No, I don't

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get has. We built up the institution. We have built up Welsh

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democracy. The thing I do regret is that we went into government but

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when we came out into the election, we seemed to renege on everything we

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did. We seemed to have forgotten we had been in government and the

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election was entirely fought on a negative platform. I'm afraid that

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in our behaviour currently in the assembly, we are still behaving on a

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negative platform. I think part of the responsible T of the party is to

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behave more like the SNP, to look and sound like we want to govern our

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country. Why is it that they only have this old classic to show? They

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be the answer is to be found in a production by the Labour Party, that

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stole some key scenes from a nationalist script. Devolution.

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Devolution power in None of it is personal. The former

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Labour MEP here worked behind the scenes on the party's responds to

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the threat from the party at the start of devolution. Our response

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was to drape ourselves in the Welsh flag, to make sure we were seen as a

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devolutionist party and I think that was very important. We rebranded. We

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had the Dragon's tale on our logos. We made sure that we were seen as

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distinctive from the Central Labour Party. I think that made a big

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difference. By contrast in Scotland, many say Labour failed to adapt to

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the new political landscape and this allowed the SNP to take full

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advantage allowed the SNP to take full

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parliament is dealing with all the allowed the SNP to take full

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domestic policies that most Scottish politicians claim to be

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domestic policies that most Scottish in and yet they head off to

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Westminster at the first opportunity. That is not a good

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look. It makes it look as if they think the Scottish Parliament isn't

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nearly as important as Westminster. This week, politicians have been up

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in Scotland with the SNP. They believe Wales is at a different

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point in its independence journey but where does it go in future

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point in its independence journey the other parties have wrapped

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themselves in the Welsh flag? One response would be to

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themselves in the Welsh flag? One Nationalist line and that would mean

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emphasising more of the independence agenda than has happened under this

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leadership. The problem with that is that kind of agenda has limited

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appeal in Wales. Support for independence remains very low. The

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dramas after devolution had similar opening scenes but each have had

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very different stories since. Who knows where they will both end up

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after the curtain closes on the referendum campaign?

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Let's go to our Welsh Affairs Editor Vaughan

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Why the difference between what has happened in Scotland and what has

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happened in Wales? Is it down to Labour's tactics or other failures?

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Joining me is the Plaid Cymru leader. The SNP Plaid Cymru and are

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very different parties. We leader. The SNP Plaid Cymru and are

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on the same journey, just at different stages. You did better

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than them back in 1999. You outpolled them. Since then, but in

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every election but basically you have been going backwards. We

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started our devolution journeys in different places. Whereas in Wales,

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we had to move to become a lawmaking Parliament and our effort... We

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wouldn't have a lawmaking assembly here now if it wasn't for the

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efforts of Plaid Cymru. Our emphasis has been in different places. Now,

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going forward, we need to recognise that there is a consensus in the

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assembly that this is a settlement that we have which is not fit for

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purpose. If it is a consensus, what is your unique selling point?

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Everyone knows what Alex Salmond once. What do you want? We want an

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independent Wales. As soon as practically possible. I've put

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forward proposals to move towards... Move on towards a system

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of self government where people in Wales decide what powers we want

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here. After next Thursday, when the people of Scotland vote yes,

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that... When the people of Scotland Vos -- vote yes, it will be up to us

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to make sure we put forward Wales's voice in a maelstrom that will arise

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from that decision. We need to be clear about what that is. There is

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consensus that what we have is not good enough that there is and a

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consensus about what we need to make it deliver for people in Wales. No

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doubt we will be hearing many more of these arguments whatever the

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results next Thursday. The Prince of Wales visited Airbus

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in Broughton to mark three-quarters of a century of aero-engineering

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at the plant. He also presented staff with

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the Queens Award for Export. The Prince also officially opened

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a new visitor centre, charting the factory's history from it's

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early days of aircraft manufacture They've been building aircraft here

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since 1939, from the Wellington bombers of

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World War II, to the wings And Today the Prince

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of Wales toured the high-tech facility and presented them with

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the Queens Award for Export. He praised the companies policy

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of investing in young apprentices and one of those youngsters

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presented him with a special walking To be part of a company which has

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search history and when you are building such quality, you are

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building aircraft which you see in the sky. It makes me proud to be

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part of this team. The Broughton site employs 6,000

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people and has a full order book There is no reason why the success

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of this site cannot continue. It is up to us to make sure that we don't

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become complacent. Exactly 21 hours and 15 minutes from the start of

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construction, the bomber is a complete fighting unit...

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Building the Wellington Bomber in super-quick was all part of the war

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effort but just a small part of the illustrious history of this site.

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Today The Prince also opened a visitor centre here,

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charting 75 years of aircraft manufacture in Broughton.

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The rest of tonight's sports news now, here's Claire.

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David Pickering has been ousted as chairman of the Welsh Rugby union

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after being voted off the board, bringing an end to a 12 year tenure.

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He has been speaking to us in the past few minutes. I think the clubs

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have said that they want change and I fully respect that. I have been

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fortunate enough to be chairman for 11 years. And still the youngest

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chairman in the world of a major country. And the longest serving.

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But I appreciate I have been in the post for a long, long time. Much

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more reaction to that story this evening.

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Swansea City face their biggest test of the season so far tomorrow

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as they travel to London for a top of the table clash against Chelsea.

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Both teams have won all their matches in the Premier League

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That's earned Garry Monk the accolade of Manager of the Month

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For Swans fans the road from rock bottom to football's top

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flight has often felt like the plot from a far-fetched film.

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But tonight in London the club's story Jack to a King will premiere

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on the big screen and some of the fans are the stars of the film.

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Our arts and media correspondent Huw Thomas reports.

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They didn't need a script writer to tell the story. The reality was far

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more entertaining. The film charts Swansea city's recent history, from

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the club's sale for ?1 in 2000 and 12 Premier League promotion a decade

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later. Using new interviews and archive on the film follows the

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heroes. There must have been 20,000 fans, black and white everywhere.

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And there are those the fans saw as the villains. By announcing that I

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was Internet seven players go, will cancel their contracts... Like Tony

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Petty, who bought the club for a pound in 2001 and drove supporters

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to despair, galvanising them into taking ownership of their club. The

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turbulent times started with those fans who stuck with them and are

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featured in the film are proud of the story and its happy ending. It's

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a story that needs to be told for every other club or every other

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community. If people really want to work and strive and to fight for

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what they really believe in, to be loyal to that and stick fast, it can

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be done. Anything is possible. Even if you are not a fan, you will be

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very emotional and I have seen the film. I had what I call

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conjunctivitis, my eyes were watering! It was an emotional

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experience. I did cry at the end of the film. There were a few other

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fellows in tears as well. The club is the star of the film and home to

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a team now second in the Premier League. The thousands of fans who

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come here about to be interested in this film but it is being shown in

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cinemas across the country and the producers hope it will prove to be

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an inspiring story audiences everywhere. It is happening here.

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This is the story. It's a rags to riches story which no one would

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believe. We started from that premise and it could just be about

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football in Swansea but there are some bigger themes behind it as

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well. It was a game we had to win. The reality of the journey to the

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top was probably too outlandish for any Hollywood scripts but this

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weekend, the supporters who stood by the club finally get to see the

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story on the big screen. The settled September weather will

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continue into the weekend. Remaining dry with some sunshine and turning a

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bit breezy at times. Some evening sunshine, especially further west.

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Cloud thickening overnight. Chilly as chilly as recent nights. At

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times. Some evening sunshine, especially further west. Cloud

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thickening overnight. But as chilly as recent nights. Revival hope that

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the temperatures... Early mist and fog tomorrow, a great start. Slow to

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lift along the marchers. The code will thin and break to leave another

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dry day with variable cloud. An outside chance of an isolated

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shower. Still warm with highs of 17 Celsius. It should stay dry and find

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for the concert in Singleton Park in Swansea tomorrow evening and a mild,

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dry night across Wales as high pressure keeps things settled. A

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breeze picking up slightly. It's that easterly breeze on Sunday which

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should bring the best of the sunshine further west. Temperatures

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still hanging on in the teams will most Wales. Early next week, high

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pressure across the UK drifts slowly towards Scandinavia, so we lose our

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grip on a very fine weather, allowing this slow to edge closer.

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The detail is fairly elusive as we battle between the two pressure

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systems. Remaining settled over the weekend. Breezy at times. Largely

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fine if you next week as well but it could turn more unsettled midweek.

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We will have an update for you at eight o'clock and more after the

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News at ten. For now, goodbye. Goodbye.

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On the nights One Show, live at the Invictus Games with Prince Harry. We

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visit a gigantic greenhouse. Lou macro we will give these to

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