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Tonight, the Welsh Government sets out plans for mergers.

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Our proposals mean they will be fewer cabinet members and leaders

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and check -- -- chief executives and they will be savings as a result.

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But will you be happy to see your council disappear?

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Welsh rugby players make up a third of all British athletes

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The community council accused of intransigence for only

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Find out what left these two sports instructors lost for words.

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We never dreamt anything like this would happen to us. And an appeal

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goes out to save the 300 years old bells at this Wrexham church.

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Taxpayers will save ?650 million over ten years

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That's the claim made by the Welsh Government today, as it

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confirmed it wants to cut the number of councils here from 22 to eight.

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But for the mergers to go ahead, Labour will have to stay in power

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after the next Assembly election and get support from parties

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Here's our political correspondent, Daniel Davies.

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Ken Arthur is famous Fritz falls, it's cheese and the those who love

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maps from us being in three counties at once. The town is in

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Carmarthenshire, Ceredigion is on the other side of the river and

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downstream is Pembrokeshire. Before the last organisation all these

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counties were on. If the Labour Welsh Government has its way we

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could be heading back there. And it is on the scrap wales': 22

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councils. Eight authorities would be created. It's not 1 million miles

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away from the councils that existed 20 years ago. They haven't decided

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whether to merge Conwy and Denbighshire creating a third

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counselling North Wales and nine in total. We know that we have 22

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authorities, some of them very small at the moment. They are not

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delivering in terms of quality. We also know that is a cost of the

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current system and there is potential for substantial savings as

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we move forward with our proposals. Not everyone is enthusiastic. Here

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in Newport the Labour leader of the council said he was horrified the

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Welsh Government was pushing ahead without meaningful consultation. He

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said this merger would leave the city short-changed. But ministers

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say their plans would save money. The merger would cost up to ?246

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million but that will pay for itself into three years. They will be fewer

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councillors than the current 12,050 and they will be fewer people

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working in admin for local councils. There are 9000 now and that could

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fall to just over 7000. We need to reorganise local government due to

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the current context, not just financial but also the need for us

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to work across a broad range of areas to improve a lot of Wales.

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That hasn't changed my opinion. Not far from here in Newcastle Emlyn how

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do they feel about the return of dev"? All the services will be the

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same and they get value for money I don't see the problem. It makes

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sense to get to -- rid of two councils. Labour still has a long

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way to go to convince some of its own. Here in Newport this shopping

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centre has just opened but the council leader says if the city were

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part of Gwent face-lifts like this would be more difficult to achieve.

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Just one headache for whoever tries to push forward with these plans

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after next made's collection. Our Political Editor, Nick Servini,

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is at the Senedd. So lots more details today about how

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it could work in practice, but we're still no nearer this actually

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getting off the ground are we? That's right. We have been talking

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about local governor reorganisation of the two years and it has been a

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story of Labour failing to get support from its political

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opponents. At least by coming out with a detailed plan that is ready

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to go they will at least show to their doubters that the party is

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deadly serious about carrying this out. It will all come down to the

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electoral maths here after the assembly election in May next year.

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In terms of the Conservatives, they are miles away from Labour in terms

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of what they want from council change. Interesting tonight, Simon

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Thomas the Plaid Cymru Assembly Member quite conciliar tree in the

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chamber talking about elements of this new draft legislation would

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discussing and worth consulting on. Plaid Cymru and Labour want the same

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thing. They believe local governor done local decisions should be made

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by bigger organisations. Plaid Cymru are talking about existing councils

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collaborating, Labour want to restructure the entire picture but

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the principle is the same. If there is going to be a deal done on this

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the only game in town now and likely to be in the future is one between

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Labour and Plaid Cymru. A BBC Wales investigation has found

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Welsh rugby players from grass roots to semi-pro level

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make up a third of all British A former player, who at one point

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played at semi-professional level, has admitted taking steroids,

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but never got caught. He also said the use

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of anabolic steroids Our reporter Tomos Morgan has

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the story. Athletes across the sporting world

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have been at the centre of intense media speculation recently with a

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growing number of sportsmen and women accused and charged with

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doping offences. Now there is evidence to suggest that the worst

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offenders are rugby players. I started playing rugby a schoolboy

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level. One player who played at semiprofessional level told us he

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took steroids while playing rugby. I think it's totally off the scale.

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People are probably blind to it and if the truth came out I think they

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would be a lot will players were banned from playing. The pressures

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when you are younger to make those jumps especially with young players

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who have the opportunity to have a full-time career, I still think it's

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going on. We spoke to several rugby players who did not want to be

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interviewed and according to UK anti-doping statistics are third of

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all banned athletes are Welsh rugby players. Of the 52 banned athletes

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across the UK, 17 are Welsh rugby players. A small percentage of the

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thousands that play the game. However Welsh rugby league bosses

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say the figures were a wake-up call and admit they are keeping dashed

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that keeping the sport clean is a challenge. One expert says it's too

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easy for cheats to avoid detection. Threads that leave this system very

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quickly can be quite confident they will be caught because the current

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testing will not be able to detect those drugs. Last week to Welsh

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Rugby Union players were banned after testing positive in a drugs

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test. The WRU say they are not overly concerned because the numbers

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of players tested is higher than in other rugby unions and sports. I

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think it's a problem in society to start with. I would not sit here and

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say it's not an issue in rugby because the fact that the one player

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getting band is one too many as far as I'm concerned. The challenge for

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us in sport generally is to try and get a lead of the game. But the

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rugby player we spoke to doesn't feel they will ever get rid of

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banned drugs completely because he feels the pressure is put on players

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these days are greater than ever. And you can see more

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on this story in Week in Week Out

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tonight at 10:35pm A woman from Cardiff died from

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drowning after the tourist boat she was on capsized on a river in South

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East Asia, an inquest has heard. Johanna Powell,

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who was a picture editor here at BBC Wales news, was with three

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friends when the vessel sank on The inquest heard how Miss Powell

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was probably asleep when the boat A conclusion

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of accidental death was recorded. Around 50 Syrian refugees will

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arrive in Wales before Christmas. Four local councils across Wales

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will welcome the refugees. The Minister for Communities, Lesley

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Griffiths, says the UK Government has vetted all of those coming here

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and they pose no threat to security. Two former Welsh Secretaries, Peter

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Hain and Paul Murphy, have taken Lord Hain, the former MP for Neath,

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was flanked by supporters Lord Kinnock, the former Labour

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leader, and Baroness Eluned Morgan as he swore the oath

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of allegiance to the Queen. Lord Murphy, who served as MP

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for Torfaen from 1987 until 2015, Both retired from the House

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of Commons A community council in Denbighshire

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has been accused intransigence for only publishing its agenda

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in Welsh and not in English. Following a complaint,

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the public services Ombudsman said Cynwyd Council was wrong not to

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produce the document bilingually. In his report, he says

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the council acted unreasonably. This is a quiet place not far from

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Corwen. Like many villages it is served by a community Council which

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is supposed to represent local opinion.

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is supposed to represent local notices for it get posted outside

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the village shop. When the woman who complained looked at the council

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agenda on this notice board she found it was only in Welsh and she

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says she asked for it to be done bilingual you but nothing was done.

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She felt that was unfair. Today the ombudsman has agreed and goes

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further and says it was unjust. In the report the complainant has -- is

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referred to as Mrs X. She has now waved their anonymity so I met a few

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miles outside the village. She is not against the Welsh line which she

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says. All I want is what I originally asked for is for the

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agenda to be bilingual. That is all I wanted. I didn't want all of this.

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Are you thinking this is quite a large sledgehammer the quite a small

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net? I agree. It did not come -- need to come to this at all. They

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had plenty of opportunity to change their minds and they were politely

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requested time after time by the ombudsman 's office but for some

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reason which I still do not understand they refuse to do this.

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Despite today's criticisms a Cynwyd Council spokesman was unapologetic.

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We were asked in the wrong way. If you are asked to do something nicely

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you lead over backwards but if we are told to do something and

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threatened with the ombudsman I think it is a reasonable answer to

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say OK, we will discuss this issue when the ombudsman reports. I have

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had to issue this public report because of the complete

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intransigence of the community Council. This is not a linguistic

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issue, this is a public service issue. This is not a public or

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private club which can decide its own rules. So though the ball is in

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the council's court. Will it change its position? That is still not

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clear. In tonight's sport,

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we reveal the eight nominees And the appeal ringing out

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across Wrexham to save Tomorrow, the Chancellor George

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Osborne will set out Working tax credits

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and housing benefits are expected to be changed to save billions of

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pounds and help balance the books. Any changes to benefits would have

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a huge impact on thousands Our reporter, Ben Price,

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has been to Swansea to speak to some Stormy November clouds over Swansea

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Bay and ahead of tomorrow's statement by the Chancellor many

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have been forecasting challenging times the thousands of people who

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are relying on financial support from the government. 238,000

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families in Wales receive tax credits which provide extra

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financial support based on individual family needs. 89,000 of

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those who got them were in work. More than 243,000 people in Wales

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receive housing benefit. Swansea is the third highest place in Wales for

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the number of people who are eligible for working tax credits.

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Around 18,000 people here get them. It's also the second highest place

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in Wales for the number of people who receive housing benefits. The

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Phoenix Centre in the Townhill area of Swansea helps people when money

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is tight. There is a community enterprise offering cheap childcare

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and a cafe with knock-down prices. It also creates jobs for local

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people. I am Emily, I am 26 and they get around ?70 for working tax

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credit and around ?80 for housing benefit. A single mother of three

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young children, Emily works in the centre part time. She has to keep a

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close eye on her weekly budget but Emily often feels her situation

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isn't there. I would be better off on the income support. My youngest

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son is two. Technically I don't have to work until his five and that is

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the scary thing that other people will be feeling that too. So what

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you are saying is you would be better off? From what I understand

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they would be better off unemployed. Just down the road a karate lesson

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that the Gwent boxing gym. Parents you are concerned about the impact

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of potential welfare cuts. It's not right. They have got people to go

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back to work with the working tax credit, child tax credit. They have

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got people off the dole. The government is not listening to what

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people need. They are prioritising cats in areas where it would make a

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lot of difference to people. And as fears over cuts continue its hoped

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they will be something to soften the blow. Let's talk to our

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Parliamentary correspondent. The UK Government says cats have to be

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made. Yes, George Osborne says that unless the country tackles its

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national debt it is economic security is threatened. That is the

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message will appear tomorrow as he talks about moves to a low welfare

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economy which means cuts the benefits. We don't know the details

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of what he'll do on tax credits. He's had to rethink them after they

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were blocked by the House of Lords. He may look instead at something

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like housing benefit. And it will all be doom and gloom. They will be

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extra money for the NHS in Wales if the Welsh Government decides to

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follow the decision taken by the NHS in England which is getting a 4%

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real terms boost next year. There will though be difficult times for

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local government in England that could feed through to a challenging

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settlement the local councils in Wales. Policing to looks vulnerable.

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We are also expecting him to unveil plans to guarantee public than in

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Wales the head will always stay higher than England.

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And we will of course have lots of reaction to the Spending Review

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Back to tonight and the sport with Tomos.

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We start with news of an award which recognises outstanding

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contribution at the grassroots level of local sport.

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Tonight we can reveal the winners of this year's Unsung Hero award.

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They volunteer at the local swimming pool in Llanrwst

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and over the years they've taught hundreds of children to swim.

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I went to surprise them with the news.

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We are in Llanrwst to reveal this year 's Unsung Hero Award. There are

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two award winners and they are just over there officiating at a swimming

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gala. Before we surprised them, but find out why they deserve this

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year's award. There is no doubting their passion. Jane and Nerys have

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been teaching here every week since 1983. Some they've helped have

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competed at national level and others have become lifeguards and

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swimming teachers themselves. Generations helped by two remarkable

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women. I was a teenager when I started coming here and it just

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shows the commit they give and my daughter is here now and it is

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lovely to see how they have given their time so long. Around 100 turn

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up every week, chance of children from mainly rural areas to get

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together. If anybody said to me we would want you to do a swimming club

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the 32 years, I would think no chance. But you can see from

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tonight, the kids absolutely love it. And they love Jane and Nerys.

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It's a partnership formed in friendship. They have lived next

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door to each other on neighbouring farms the 40 years. Both live here

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in the village nestles between ball and better is a kite. With its lakes

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and white-water rivers and the landscape here is a constant

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reminder of the importance of swimming skills. Water is a magnet

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for children whatever age. They always want to play with water. The

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children have drowned, young people have got into difficulties. We try

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and do a lot of life with them because it's vitally important. When

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mother came to us and said her child fell in the river but the brother

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jumped in and got hold of the and she came and said thank you for

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teaching my children life-saving skills. Back at the pool and its

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prize-giving time at the swimming gala. Every child gets a medal. But

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what Jane and Nerys don't know is they are about to get a trophy of

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their own. What are welcome. You love the bit confused. I have got to

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let you in on a little secret. The real reason everybody is here

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tonight is because of you to and the tireless work you do week in week

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out. I am delighted to say that you are this year's BBC sport get

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inspired tent back to winners. -- Unsung Hero Award winners.

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Congratulations. You have got tears in your eyes. What does it mean to

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you? It is tremendous for us. We never dreamt anything like this

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would happen to us. I am lost for words. It is a shock. I love

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teaching the children. It is just lovely.

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It was a great night for everyone involved with

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Congratulations once again to Jane and Nerys.

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Well, it's time to announce exclusively the nominees

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for this year's BBC Cymru Wales Sports Personality of the Year.

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The winner will be announced at the Wales Sport Awards on Monday,

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So, let's take a look at the eight nominees.

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His goals helped to dig Wales to the European Championships. It is Wales

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and Real Madrid foot bollard Gareth Bale. The Ospreys and Wales rugby

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international Dan Biggar had a standout World Cup and six Nations.

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And what about an Olympian a la John Davies. European games gold

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medallist and world Grand Prix winner tae kwon do athlete Jade

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Jones. The new IBF world featherweight champion who also

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defended his title this year, boxer Lee Selby is also on the list. Along

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with Non Stanford back from injury to qualify for the 2016 Olympics.

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Classic winner and career-best Tour de France finisher Geraint Thomas

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and Wales and Swansea City Captain Ashley Williams who led his country

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to next year's European finals. Each night next week,

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we'll be profiling the candidates. You'll be able to vote

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from Monday morning until Saturday

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the 5th of December. All the details on how to vote will

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be available from next Monday on Cardiff Blues hooker Matthew Rees

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will face The 34-year-old was shown

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a red card for stamping on Harlequins and England number eight,

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Nick Easter, during the Blues' That is the sport. Back to you,

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Jamie. An appeal is ringing out in Wrexham

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to save the bells The rare set

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of ten bells is almost 300-years-old Bell ringers need to raise

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?10,000 for the work. Matthew Richards is there

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for us tonight. Welcome to this beautiful medieval

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church. I have got here the receipt for the last instalment to pay for

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the set of bells back in 1732 the ?44. Inflation has gone up somewhat

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I think. We saw a group practising earlier this evening. Let's listen

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in to hear them playing the bells. With me now is David Spalding the

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tower captain of the bell-ringers year. Explain to me a bit about the

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bells and what needs to be done. It is some years since they had any

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maintenance and they are now at a stage when they urgently need some

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maintenance. Then they will be good for another 50 or 60 years. Tell us

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about the history of them. They are special. These bells were cast in

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Gloucester by Abraham Riddle in the early 1720s. They are almost unique

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beef up but because we have ten bells and there are very few ten

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bell-ringers in the world. They got here in quite a unique way. They

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did. We have got a report of how they were brought up by boat at the

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River Severn to strew spree and hauled overland to Wrexham. In the

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1720s it must have been quite a challenge. You need to raise ?10,000

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and you are appealing for more people to become members. We do need

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to get the money to pay for the repairs but equally we would welcome

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any interest in bell-ringing. It is an inch and tradition and one which

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we are keen to encourage. Thank you very much. We were let the practice

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continued receiving. Let's get the weather now. Sue

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Charles has tonight's forecast. After a cold start to the week,

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we're moving in to a milder spell of weather now,

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but also more unsettled. Cloudier tonight with outbreaks

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of rain moving south eastwards, pushing through on brisk north

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westerly winds overnight. The cloud holding up

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the temperatures though. Those strong winds persist

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into tomorrow, Likely to be heaviest

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in the north and west, but moving Some brighter spells in between,

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but with brisk north westerly winds Highs between 9C in Powys and 11C

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in Pembrokeshire. Tomorrow night,

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largely dry but often cloudy. A few isolated showers

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for a time and staying blustery If we follow the isobars the winds

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move from the north west to the So Thursday might be

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a bit cloudy but mostly dry. Some bright spells,

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some mist and hill fog. Patchy rain more likely further

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north west, but also slightly milder with temperatures back in double

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figures at 11C to 13C and turning But with that milder Atlantic

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influence it's also very changeable with another front arriving

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from the west on Friday. Friday might start dry, especially

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in the east, but there's more rain Behind that front drier and colder

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for a time overnight Friday into Saturday and remaining windy

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with a risk of wintry showers. Then further rain

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on the way through Saturday. So quite topsy-turvy

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weather this week. Very changeable and signs that we

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could briefly return to colder air I'll have an update for you here

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at 8:00pm and again after the BBC news

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at 10:00pm. From all of us on the programme,

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good evening. The knives are sharpened,

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and the heat is on...

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