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The MP for Caerphilly turns on his own party leader

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Jeremy Corbyn following the vote to attack in Syria.

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There is a great deal of concern about his stance on a range of

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different issues. Particularly defending this country.

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And an MP says some of those who voted for air strikes

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Several members have had their offices allocated. One member had

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her House surrounded. Many had photos of dead babies pushed through

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the front door. London has Boris Johnson - should

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Welsh cities have an elected mayor? Scallop dredging in Cardigan Bay

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ended to protect wildlife, but the tide could be turning with

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plans for it to begin once again. And back after a cancer scare

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and injury - cyclist Becky James prepares to

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compete at the Cycling World Cup. Less than 24 hours after MPs voted

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to allow RAF air strikes against so-called Islamic State targets

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in Syria, the political arguments A senior Welsh Labour MP,

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who backed military action, has launched an outspoken attack

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on his leader, Jeremy Corbyn. And another has claimed that some

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MPs who voted for air strikes had Here's our parliamentary

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correspondent, David Cornock. Tornado jets take off from an RAF

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base in Cyprus. The targets are said to be Islamic state-controlled oil

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fields in eastern Syria. The first mission came hours after the

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debate. I voted against air strikes. I have seen the terrible atrocities

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in Paris. Something needs to be done about Isil but I was not convinced

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with the Prime Minister's strategy. Just one day after one of the most

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lament as debates in years one senior Labour MP launched an attack

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on his leader. There is a great deal of concern about his stance on

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arrange of different issues, particularly defending this country.

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I have offered to work closely with him and help him prepare his

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speeches. That has not been taken up but the offer is still there. How

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did you MP vote? 15 voted for military action. 11 Welsh

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Conservatives voted with the Government and were joined by four

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Labour MPs. 24 MPs opposed bombing. One Welsh MP is unwell but says she

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would have voted for air strikes. After the vote one MP who defied

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leadership explained his decision. It is not a perfect solution but

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there was a strong enough case for the limited air strikes proposed.

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This is not about a mass invasion or a major bombing operation, this is

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about precision strikes by aircraft, some of which are already

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operating over the skies of Syria and ushered operating over the skies

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of Iraq. Messages such as these have been

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sent on social media. In the Commons a member of the

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Shadow Cabinet led calls for action. Several members have had their

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offices barricaded. One member had her House surrounded. Many had

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photos of dead babies pushed through their front door at home. Today some

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members have received photos of severed heads. MPs have brought

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shoulders but can I ask the leader to review the arrangement

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surrounding the security of member's homes and offices. Some MPs

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who voted against the leader now fear they could be targeted by his

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supporters and deselected. Jeremy Corbyn says there is no place for

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believing in his party. But last night 's vote showed deep Labour

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divisions. In a moment we'll hear from one

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of those four Welsh Labour MPs who voted for the air strikes,

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Wayne David. Davies has been to his constituency

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of Caerphilly to find out what Destroying the fortress

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of so-called Islamic State. That's what MPs voted for -

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including the MP of Caerphilly, I am glad he has done that. That is

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one good thing he has done. As long as they don't do like Iraq. They

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swept through but there was no plan for after it chaos. Some Labour MPs

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who voted as he did say they are getting bullied now. It doesn't

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shock me. If you do not go with the flow, especially with Jeremy Corbyn

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being in power, he is a pacifist, isn't he? Wayne David says Jeremy

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Corbyn has a lot to learn. Who knows whether the votes of MPs

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like Wayne David will help the civil war in Syria that's

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dragged on for years. But what's certain is the Labour

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party high command here in Wales could do without a civil war

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in their own ranks when they're supposed to be fighting

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next year's Assembly election. Carwyn Jones said last night he

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would have voted against more bombing.

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I'm not against air strikes in principle but

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if you want to bring peace to Syria then you've got to have a plan.

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Bleak, that's the future for Labour, according to Wayne David, unless

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Live now to our Parliamentary Correspondent David

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Wayne David, one of those for Welsh Labour MPs to vote with the

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Government is with me now. Jeremy Corbyn got most Labour MPs onside.

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The First Minister agrees with him on the air strikes. Why are you out

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of step with your leader? I listened to the arguments very carefully both

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for and against military action and I decided that the appropriate

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course of action, the best way to defend the people of this country,

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was to support military action. I respect your view of Jeremy Corbyn

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and I hope he will respect my view and the views of my colleagues. But

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you see cannot put together a coherent indictment, that is not

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respecting his view. To his credit he talks about an honest

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straightforward politics. I am being honest. His leadership so far has

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not been -- has been poor. He has an exceptional mandate and he needs to

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pull together. He needs to be an effective Leader of the Opposition

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but more reportedly he needs to be a potential Prime Minister of this

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country. At the moment he has got a long way to go. You clearly think he

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is not up to the job and presumably think you should go. I do not. But

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it is important that we all work together and have a collective

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leadership. Jeremy Corbyn has been on the backbenches for the last 30

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years was obvious there been on the front bench before. He is on a steep

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learning curve. We must work closely with him and he must in turn work

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closely with us. You have had a fair response in terms of volume to your

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vote last night. Is that not democracy? People will use social

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media to challenge your views on these big issues. And so they

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should. I have had representations for and against. People have aspirin

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more explanation of my decision. But what is not acceptable as the abuse

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that some members of Parliament, including myself, have had from

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people, sometimes inside the Labour Party, from a small minority. That

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is not democratic and should not take place. And in the meantime you

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will continue on the front bench? Yes, I have got a job to do and I

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will work with Jeremy Corbyn as long as he wants me. Thank you.

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The first Syrian refugees to arrive in Wales this month will settle

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in Torfaen, Ceredigion, Neath Port Talbot and Caerphilly.

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About 50 people are due to arrive from refugee camps before Christmas

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- the first of about 1,000 coming to Wales over the next five years.

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It's hoped the electrification of the Great Western mainline to

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Swansea can be completed by 2020 or 2021.

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That's according to the UK Transport Secretary Patrick McLoughlin.

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His comments follow the publication of a report

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by Network Rail last week which said the work between London

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and Cardiff would be completed by 2019, but that it may take another

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He says he understands the frustration of people there.

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Once we get to Cardiff I want to carry on. We will have electrocuted

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to Cardiff by 2019. I then want us to carry on to Swansea. It is very

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important. -- electrification to Cardiff.

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The UK Government's Broadcasting Minister Ed Vaizey has said S4C is

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That's despite concern over cuts in the Welsh-language channel's

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It's being reduced from 6.7 million to 5 million by 2020.

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MPs say the Government's broken its promise to safeguard

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But most of the channel's funding comes via the BBC licence fee.

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S4C is adequately funded, it is extremely generously funded, it's

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It will continue to receive a generous grant from my department.

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It is more generously funded than any other media organisation

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A campaign for Cardiff to have an elected mayor

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It will be organised by a key figure from previous successful

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To get a Yes-No referendum, around 24,000 people in Cardiff

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Here's our political reporter Paul Martin.

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Comfortably the most high-profile elected mayor in England, but

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That was the verdict in Ceredigion in 2004, the only Welsh council area

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Now there is a move to get a referendum for a mayor

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Darren Hill is organising a campaign to get 10% of Cardiff voters,

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around 24,000 people, to sign a petition for a yes, no referendum.

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I'm confident from the conversations I have had with

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people on a cross-party basis and from no party at all that there's

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It's a new, fresh idea and I think think people will be interested in

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And people don't have to look too far for a neighbouring city with

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Independent George Ferguson became Bristol Mayor in 2012.

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Some say the rise of mayors in England has given cities added

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status and profile and put pressure on Cardiff to have

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So three years since George Ferguson was elected here,

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A mayor has not made an impact to my life.

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I can't see any presence from a mayor.

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I don't know what the mayor of Bristol does.

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He seems quite approachable, sort of one of the people.

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He has managed to transmit that quite well I think.

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The local paper back the idea of a referendum. As a city we have become

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more decisive. But not everybody likes him. Not everybody voted for

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him. He is one person leading an entire city and that is good to be

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controversial in any city. Back in Cardiff,

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there is scepticism. There is no proven benefits,

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it is also completely the wrong time, because we are

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talking about local government reorganisation, where local

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authorities are coming together, Cardiff had an elected mayor

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throughout the 19th century. One of them is a mortal eyes and a city

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centre. If enough people sign the possession and the yes side wins the

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referendum and modern day successor would be probably elected in the

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summer of 2017. Still to come

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in the programme tonight: It was banned to protect wildlife

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like these dolphins - now plans to reintroduce scallop dredging have

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angered enviromental campaigners. And after all the recent rain -

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a much drier, We'll have a full forecast

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in a few minutes. As the Climate Summit is held in

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Paris, here in Wales, people living in some coastal areas are worried

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what effect coastal erosion and flooding caused by climate change

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will have on them in the future. 48 locations across the country have

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been named in a Welsh Government Despite spending ?300 million

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on flood defences in the last five years, the Government say they don't

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have obligations regarding flood Here's our

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Environment Correspondent. This family moved to their dream

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House last year. There are people similar to us with

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big mortgages, some people with no mortgages, but they do not want

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their houses blighted by this policy, by the wording of the policy

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more so than by the policy itself. It has affected us.

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Newton is classified as being under threat from coastal erosion. Almost

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?300 million has been spent on defences. But the shoreline plan is

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not legally binding. The sea wall protects 40 homes but in 20 years'

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time it will not be upgraded or repaired anymore and defences in 40

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applications across Wales protecting 1300 properties will no longer be

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maintained. The National Trust believes and

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adopting a different approach, even in some cases allowing the sea to

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change the course. Wider society needs to think about switching from

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a purely and healing led approach, we do not want a future where we

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have a concrete coursed around Wales. The council maintains this

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seafront win. National resources are responsible for the wall.

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40 homes are potentially under threat and there is no guarantee of

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funding should the worst happen. This area has more than 500 homes at

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risk. The County Council are committed to defending it for 40

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years but are beginning to talk publicly of decommissioning the

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village should the sea rise with climate change. We have to work to

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find the best solutions to solve their problems in terms of

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relocation of those villages. Some people might want to stay there for

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a long time, until it is water coming through the front of the

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door. Hopefully that will be many years in the future. Something might

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want to sort it out now. Other communities will now consider

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for how long can they be protected from the sea.

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A consultation has begun into plans to restart scallop

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Commercial scallop fishing came to an end five years ago when it became

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A study found the seabed could withstand a certain level

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of dredging, but campaigners claim it would be an ecological disaster.

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Dolphins head to Cardigan Bay to breed and to rear their young

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People come from all over the country to watch them and

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experience something unavailable almost anywhere else in the UK.

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Much of the water in which they live has been granted

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the highest designation available under European law -

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But now the Welsh Government is looking at re-opening sections

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It's a concern for conservation societies.

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Scallop dredging does have potential to be quite destructive.

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As the name suggests, they're dredging through

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the seabed to extract scallops from the sea floor and that can

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Cardigan Bay is where the prime scallop beds are located. The Welsh

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Government is considering opening up this special area of conservation

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for scallop dredging up to three nautical miles from the coast.

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It could generate millions of pounds for the fishing industry, but it is

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also feared it could impact on another multimillion pound industry

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Around 50,000 tourists take boat trips annually to see Cardigan Bay's

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Mark Roberts is a scallop fisherman from Nevin. He disputes claims that

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If we did as much damage as these environmentalists claim we

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do, we would have been out of work years ago, but we do sustain

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the fishing grounds because the proof is in the pudding.

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How can we sustain our businesses if we do so much damage?

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Research by Bangor University claims the seabed will not be greatly

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harmed by the resumptmion of scallop dredging.

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The area we're talking about is further offshore

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Now these are much more mobile, because they're exposed to very

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Now the animals that live there are adapted to that sort

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The consultation into scallop dredging has just been restarted

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by the Welsh Government and is due to run for the next 12 weeks.

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We start with football, and news that could be a boost for Wales.

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Fifa will discuss a proposal to expand the World Cup

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Wales haven't qualified for a World Cup since 1958, and the

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changes could see more teams qualify for the tournament from 2026.

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Meanwhile, Chris Coleman's team has dropped two places to 17th

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Wales women striker and former Everton and Cardiff player Gwennan

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The 27 year old has been suffering with a long-standing knee injury.

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She won 56 caps for Wales and lifted the FA Cup with Everton in 2010.

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Commonwealth Games Champion Jazz Carlin has won a gold medal

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in the 800m freestyle event at the European Short Course

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It's Great Britain's first gold of the competition.

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It's been almost two years since Welsh cyclist Becky James last raced

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She's bounced back after illness and injury, and is preparing to

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compete at the Cycling World Cup in New Zealand over the next few days.

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It's the first step on the road that she hopes will

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It's been an emotional journey for Becky James.

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After illness and injury, the two-time world champion will

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pull on the Great Britain cycling jersey this weekend for

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It was hard, but I'm so happy to be back where I

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am now. I'm enjoying it more than ever and I think that's the most

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important thing and I sort of see everything in a different way now.

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I'm just excited to be part of the team again.

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It's been a long and tough road back from injury,

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and the girl from Abergavenny, who has just turned 24, is on the right

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road, although the competition just seems to get faster.

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I know the rest of the world's moved on, so that's

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going to be a hard thing for me, because I don't just need to get

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back to where I was, being a double world champ, I need to be going

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Further to sporting setbacks she was told she was at risk of developing

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cancer. In 2014 she had an operation to remove abnormal cells. There were

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times he she thought her career was over. It gives you a different

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perspective on everything. There were times when I thought about

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giving up and doing something else but I am glad I stuck to it. If I

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did not have the support from British cycling, my parents, my

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boyfriend, I would not be back to where I am. She has worked

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incredibly hard but the ability to keep coming back after injury, after

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injury and illness, it says so much about her character.

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Her return is also a boost for the Great Britain squad.

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While the men's and women's endurance teams are in good shape

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and widely expected to win medals in Rio, the sprinters seem to be

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lagging behind and need to battle it out in New Zealand over the next few

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days in order to win much needed Olympic qualification points.

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And there is no question where the Welsh sprinting queen wants

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I'm targeting to get there and I really want to go to Rio.

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It has been hard cycle missing out on London and Glasgow.

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So as long as I get there, that is the most important thing to me.

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All this week we're looking at the nominees for this year's

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BBC Cymru Wales Sports Personality of the Year Award.

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The winner will be announced next Monday at the Wales Sport Awards.

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Today's contenders are Lee Selby and Non Stanford.

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This time last year Lee Selby was a contender, now he is a world

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champion with a successful defence under his belt. He snatched the IBF

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featherweight title and then went across the Atlantic for a successful

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defence. 2015 will go down as the year Lee Selby made his mark on the

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world of boxing. As sports court they do not come

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tougher than triathlon. Triathletes do not come tougher than Non

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Stanford. She faced the added hurdle of coming back after injury. She was

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runner-up in the world grand final and guaranteed her police for 2016.

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Sue Charles is here with all the details.

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There is an ongoing risk of flooding. Full details of all alerts

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on the website. A respite from the rain tomorrow. Turning drier,

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brighter and colder. Tonight it will turn drier and clearer overnights. A

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fresher feel tomorrow. A crisp, cool winter morning. Turning hazy later.

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Cloud thickening through the afternoon. Winds up. South-westerly

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winds trying to push another weather system and from the Atlantic Friday

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into Saturday. Turning cloudy Friday night. Some rain starting to edge

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into north Wales. Workload holding up the temperatures. Saturday night

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stay dry. Along the north and west course strong to gale force winds.

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Further heavy rain. A further Met Office warning. The timing and

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position of this could change. It could be gyre for a time on Sunday

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morning. More rain pushing up from the south later in the day. Mixed

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weather over the next few days. Brighter tomorrow. Wet and windy in

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the north-west, gyre and the south-east on Saturday. Gyre on

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Sunday. Further rain in the South on Saturday.

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The main news. After MPs voted to allow air strikes against so-called

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Islamic State targets in Syria David Cameron has warned the mission is

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complex and will take time. And an MP who backed military action

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has launched an outspoken attack on his leader Jelani Cobb on. -- Jeremy

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Corbyn. We'll have a quick update at eight

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and more after the BBC News at Ten. From all of us on the programme,

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