28/06/2016 BBC Wales Today

Our top story: The First Minister tries to steady the ship and tells

the Assembly Wales should get out of the EU as soon as possible

Passions have been raised by this debate, I know,

but it is time now for calm, not knee jerk reactions.

Many will be concerned about the vitriol that seeped

into the campaign but this will not help us with these significant

He grew up on a housing estate, brought up by a single mother.

Could Stephen Crabb, the MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire,

Their community was awarded more European funding than most,

so why did Caerphilly, Blaneau Gwent and Torfaen

Good evening from Dinard, where Wales defender Chris Gunter

following Iceland's defeat over England.

And low pressure is in charge of our weather this week,

bringing more rain over the coming days.

Wales should get out of the EU as soon as possible for the sake

of business confidence, according to the First Minister Carwyn Jones.

He told the Assembly the move known as Article 50 triggers a strict

But his statement puts him at odds with the Prime Minister David

Cameron, who said the next Prime Minister should trigger

Our political editor Nick Servini was watching events.

Nick, this is the first time Assembly Members have heard

from the First Minister since last week's vote.

And the first opportunity for all the Assembly Members to discuss the

historic events of last week. At times, it was quite a muted affair.

The Brexit supporters were keen not to appear to triumphant and those on

the Remain side were clearly deeply frustrated with the decision. They

had to keep a lid on many of the feelings because so many of their

constituents, people who voted for them in the Assembly elections,

voted to leave the EU in the recent referendum. But the passions on this

issue were not far away from raising their head during the course of the

discussion that lasted about an hour and a half and, inevitably, it

concerned money. It is the big question in British

politics, when should the triggers people on two years worth of Brexit

talks? The First Minister gave his answer today, as soon as. Assembly

Members had their first opportunity to respond to last week's result.

Carwyn Jones said he would keep the pressure on Westminster. I have

written to the Prime Minister saying I expect every single penny, every

single penny, that we will lose when we cease to be eligible for European

funding to be made up by the UK Government and that many to come to

Wales. The leader of the Welsh Conservatives and Brexit campaigner

Andrew RT Davies faced plenty of opposition when he set out how he

believed the Welsh economy could prosper outside the EU. I believe

there is huge opportunities... Investment... Innovation and to

build a better, brighter future for global Britain, global Wales. And we

will succeed because the people have given us the mandate to do that and

we will succeed in living up to their aspirations. Ultimately, if

you choose to continue to campaign that was fought in the referendum,

we will let people down. The leader of Plaid Cymru, Leanne Wood, said

the lever was secured on the basis of a false prospectus. The leader of

Ukip in Wales said the only people who would lose their jobs would be

the UK's members of the European Parliament. Time will tell whether

this vow will be upheld. But in reality, the promise of ?490 million

per year seems to have disappeared already. Last Thursday's vote gives

something that I would have thought Plaid Cymru would welcome. It is

called national independence. They seem to be somewhat of this. But now

we have the opportunity to make decisions for ourselves. The EU

funding that has been referred to so many times today can now be returned

to us. But how did First Minister's Questions go down outside the

chamber? I watched it with a former Labour adviser, a Leave campaigner

and one supporter of the Remain campaign. We began by discussing the

tone of the debate. Carwyn Jones is livid and you can tell from his

responses. He is absolutely furious. He knows that it is quite unlikely

he is going to be able to deliver the manifesto on which he has been

elected because the money the Welsh government gets is about to fall off

a cliff. Did Andrew RT Davies get the tone right today? He was not

particularly triumphalist but he did get into either bad-tempered spat

with Carwyn Jones. I can sympathise with Andrew. He is probably

frustrated that none of his questions were answered. We want to

see what the plan is for Wales and nothing is being proposed. What were

your impressions? They don't have a plan, maybe they were too reliant on

the Welsh people voting in, and it did not happen, so we are left in

the middle, not knowing what to do. We know there are deep divisions on

the Brexit across Wales and the chamber of the Assembly is no

exception. So the First Minister wants to get

on with things? That's right. This is the key question in terms of the

referendum debate from here, at what stage does that process get

triggered. Jeremy Hunt, a very senior Conservative cabinet member

raised the prospect of a second referendum today. Even those on the

Leave side have said there is no rush for us to go into this process

now the referendum has happened. The current situation is that David

Cameron has said he is not going to play any active role in the

renegotiation so we will have to wait for a new Prime Minister to

come through and that is going to be in the autumn, then the possibility

of a general election after that. Amid all of this, Carwyn Jones has

clearly come to the conclusion that if this is going to happen, it might

as well happen as quickly as possible. No doubt, at the top of

his mind will be the impact on inward investment. I did say, what

is happening with the steel industry as well and the sale of Tata Steel's

UK operations, because he will want to bring as much security into the

market as quickly as possible. Does he really have any influence in all

of this? The difficulty he has got is that there are no formal

negotiations underway at Westminster or Brussels so it is very limited at

this stage because his involvement and his influence can only be felt

once there is a former process underway. Until that point arises,

much of the debate, rather bleak here over the next month or so, will

be largely speculative and to do with the real big ticket out of here

as a result of the Brexit, the cash here, about ?500 million, that goes

directly to farming and regional aid. And any word from Carwyn Jones

on the Labour leader in Westminster tonight, Jeremy Corbyn? No, we have

not. We have had comments from the Labour leader in Scotland but no

comment until this stage from the First Minister. There was a rushed

statement in a radio interview on Sunday saying that Jeremy Corbyn

would find it difficult if half his cabinet were to leave. That has

happened. Over the next 24 hours, we will hear from Carwyn Jones and I

think all eyes will be on him, as a very senior figure in the party, and

what he thinks Jeremy Corbyn should do next.

Could Britain's next Prime Minister be the MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire?

The former Secretary of State for Wales, who grew up

on a housing estate, will be throwing his hat

into the ring to lead the Conservative Party.

David Cornock, a bold move from Stephen Crabb,

Yes, Stephen Crabb will formally declared tomorrow that he is a

candidate, although it is the worst kept secret in Westminster because

some of his supporters have e-mailed MPs this afternoon and that e-mail

begins, Stephen Crabb is standing for the leadership of the

Conservative Party. That e-mail goes on to invite MPs to have a drink

with Mr Crabb this evening. He will be seen as the outsider, he will be

seen as the dark horse, other games people like Boris Johnson and the

Home Secretary, but he believes he has something different to offer so

we will hear an awful lot about that background, growing up in a council

house in Haverfordwest in a single-parent family. He will face a

big challenge to get onto the ballot paper because only the top two

candidates chosen by Conservative MPs will actually go through to a

run-off, decided by Conservative Party members, but the history of

Conservative Party elections is that sometimes the favourite does not win

and an outsider comes through. He will be hoping to become Prime

Minister on September the 9th. Let's talk about Labour. An overwhelming

vote of no-confidence in Jeremy Corbyn from his own MPs.

Overwhelming. 172-40. More resignations today, including Kevin

Brennan, the MP for Cardiff West, resigns as the trade and industry

spokesman after 11 years. He says only after a great deal of agonising

in his letter to Jeremy Corbyn that he is going. Interestingly, no

Shadow Welsh Secretary, nobody has been able to take that job. Jeremy

Corbyn has failed to persuade people to take that job so the Shadow

Cabinet met this morning with no representative from Wales. Thank

you. Wales captain Ashley Williams

is back in training ahead of the Euro 2016 quarter

final against Belgium. And it's been a pretty soggy

afternoon, with more rain to come One of the many questions raised

after Wales voted to Leave the EU is why people living in towns

and areas that have benefitted from EU money turned out

in their droves to put a cross next Back to the referendum,

and one of the things people will still be talking

about is Caerphilly, Blaneau Gwent and Torfaen,

the so-called Gwent Valleys. They've been awarded more funding

by the European Union per head than most others parts of the UK,

yet they all voted to leave. This building has benefited from EU

allocated funds. It cost ?30 million to build, around 7 million of that

was allocated by the European Union. And it is not just yet, the entire

landscape has been changed by European Union funding. The Heads of

the Valleys road, which many people would use to get here, benefited to

the tune of around ?79 million. And it is not just concrete things like

this that you can see that the European Union funding system has

had an impact on, it is also things like projects to get people back

into work. Around ?5.4 million. That job scheme atheists in Blaenau

Gwent, in neighbouring counties, including Torfaen, another area

which voted by some 60% to leave the European Union. I have been there

recently to speak to two people who voted to leave to ask them why.

Our health service is in dire straits, our housing is in dire

straits. So it comes back to immigration and its effect on them?

If it is not an issue in Torfaen, why is it an issue for yourself?

Because I'm British and I look around the rest of the country

and I see how they are suffering, why should I say, I am fine here,

The Welsh government under Carwyn Jones, all in camp, and yet the

majority of people in this country that voted voted to leave. That

tells me that these people are not in touch with the people they are

elected to serve. And there own positions are questionable now.

Joining me now is Doctor Daniel Evans. You and your colleagues study

everything from education to economic, trying to figure out

whether we are doing better or worse in Wales on that front. We are

surrounded by examples of European Union funded projects yet people

don't seem to be won over by this European idea. Why is that? What

could politicians do to change that attitude? Firstly, I think this

referendum has been an extremely emotional vote. People have used it

as a chance to express a desire/ with the political process. In the

Welsh elections, people stay away, maybe as a way of exposing their

discontent. People have used the EU referendum as a way of sending a

message so the political class in Cardiff and Westminster are saying,

we are angry, we are set. People in these places in the valleys, they

feel neglected, they feel ignored, and they have every right to be

angry. It can't just be a protest vote because there was a saturation

of coverage across all different types of media. People were looking

things up, trying to learn more about the European Union. Is it fair

to say people did not know enough about what was going on? Primarily,

especially in areas like Blaenau Gwent and former Labour heartlands,

I think it really was a protest vote. They were expressing a

dissatisfaction at the fact there are not many job opportunities here.

I think that anger was the overriding factor. But you are right

to say, I don't think people really, for example, when we are talking to

these people about what issues they were thinking about, they were not

thinking about funding, the amount of money Wales has received from the

European Union, they were thinking about things like immigration.

Blaenau Gwent has one of the lowest levels of immigration in the UK.

That suggests there is an information gap. This was a vote

about Europe. It has raised lots of other questions here.

A two-year long dispute between National Museum Wales

Wales' National Museums will re-open fully over the course of the next

week after both sides agreed on bank holiday and weekend

UKIP Assembly Member Mark Reckless is to chair

the Assembly's Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs

The news has prompted anger from Labour AM Lee Waters,

who described the move as "appalling" given the party

questions whether climate change is man-made.

Stephen Crabb grew up on a council estate and will be throwing his hat

into the ring to lead the Conservative Party. James Williams

reports. It is all change in Westminster and

with a vacancy at the top of government, Stephen Crabb has his

sights set on the most powerful residents in the country. A far cry

from the Pembroke Sheboygan's humble beginnings. After his mother

separated from her abusive husband, she fled in Russia and took Stephen

Crabb and his two brothers to live in Scotland. They eventually

returned to live here in Haverfordwest and they lived in this

council house, where Stephen Crabb was raised by his single mother,

who, for a period, had to rely on benefits. It is the kind of back

story that set Stephen Crabb apart from many of his privately educated

Cabinet colleagues. After attending the local car brands in school, he

went to Bristol University, where he earned a first in politics and met

his French wife. His Westminster career started in 2005 when he won

his home seed of Preseli Pembrokeshire, but he would have to

wait nine years until asked to join the Cabinet as the Welsh Secretary.

He would not have to wait as long for a promotion, as he took control

of the Department for Work and Pensions earlier this year. Some

three months later, he has his eyes set on adding his picture to the

Conservative wall of fame. At the local pub, where he enjoys a putt

from time to time, a close friend for around 15 years is confident he

has what it takes. It is a massive step and the country is in a

predicament at the moment but I think Stephen is the one to bring

them out of it. Boris and Theresa May are the favourites but David

Cameron was in the same position as Stephen Crabb when he took over. I

seriously think he is a really strong contender. But for others, he

lacks match practice at the very top. I don't think he has got the

experience to do that sort of job. I think he should be in politics a bit

longer before he takes on those jobs. I am sure local people might

like to say, we have a Prime Minister, but at the end of the day,

it has to be the right person, and I don't think he has sufficient

Parliamentary experience to be considered. When not in Westminster,

he enjoys family live in a small village outside Haverfordwest and is

a regular at the local church. A committed Christian, he nevertheless

insists that his politics has been shaped just as much by his life

experiences as by his religion, but he opposed same-sex marriage because

he felt the changes were being forced on judges. A principle stand

according to some, for others, deeply controversial. A keen rugby

player and supporter, Stephen Crabb is not afraid to get stuck in, but

with many others also in the frame for the Captain's armband, it is

going to be a bruising few months. Around 350 police, fire

and ambulance staff have been taking part in a large-scale anti-terrorist

training exercise at Ffos Las Led by South Wales and Dyfed-Powys

Police to test their response, scenarios are based on "prevailing"

threats following attacks Don't be alarmed, these

are not real terrorists. And a chance to test

how our emergency services would respond in the face

of a Paris-style atrocity. From attacks over the world,

you do gain a pattern of activity that terrorists might

often link into. You try to prepare some plans

to mitigate the threat We will know what weaponry they use,

we will know what the propensity to use IEDs to target first

responders and target certain areas. We try to mitigate

that in our plans. It is just a few minutes

after the attack and we have moved out of the area and sent further

back where the emergency This is the biggest operation

of its kind in the UK this year and it is testing the possibility

of what would happen in Wales if three targets were hit

within the space of an hour. Over the next two days,

Ffos Las racecourse is just one of three locations

being used to simulate Our camera was kept away from much

of the action for fear of revealing tactics,

all in the spirit, no doubt, of keeping this training

as realistic as possible. Football, and Wales captain

Ashley Williams is back in training ahead of the Euro 2016

quarterfinal against Belgium. Live to Iwan Griffiths

at the Wales camp in France. The first question posed

to the players at today's training session asked if they had any

regrets after they were filmed celebrating Iceland's victory

and England's exit from Euro 2016. Chris Gunter said it was not meant

to show any disrespect and they were simply glad to see

the success of the underdog. The goal that means Wales now stand

alone as the only home nations team It was a game to rock English

football and with just three wins in 11 major tournament matches,

has led to the resignation Fans from Iceland on the other hand,

a country with a population of just 330,000, are still

celebrating the 2-1 victory. The result was also noted

at the Wales team hotel in Dinard. This video, widely shared on social

media, showed the squad The Wales players were today asked

if they had any regrets That was half of the celebrations,

because of how well I can understand how it would come

across but as a group of players we have supported the underdogs

throughout the tournament. It certainly wasn't a video to show

any lack of respect. I think it's fantastic

for the tournament that another smaller nation

have progressed through, another team that were

probably written off It certainly wasn't meant

as a lack of respect. After the celebrations,

the squad back training today. It was unexpected but encouraging

for Welsh fans to see Ashley Williams out of his sling

and taking part in the morning session, although he did seem

to have trouble moving his left The Wales captain put his hands down

to break a fall during the victory over Northern Ireland and,

with a straight arm, jolted his shoulder,

but Chris Coleman has no doubt The line-up for the last eight now

clear, with Wales up against Belgium in three days' time,

as the only team from the UK But success has thrown up a problem

for Chris Gunter, whose brother is getting married

in Mexico on the 7th of July. He is in the air now, flying

to Mexico, so he will miss the game. My parents were scheduled to fly

on Saturday morning so they are The actual wedding is a week

Thursday so, if we get through, there won't be many people

from our side the family at the wedding, but there won't be

anyone happier than my brother Gunter, mind you, won't be

the only one to lose out. We always expected to go as far

as we can. It's not as bad as Gunts

but I had Beyonce tickets, Yes, they are enjoying

the experience and may well be underdogs against Belgium,

the second-best team in the world, but these players,

when together for Wales, have proved able to create

something special. The Radio Wales Sport team

will be live in Dinard interviewing Wales players Chris

Gunter and Wayne Hennessey ahead of the Wales v Belgium

match on Friday night. But from Dinard, it's over

to Behnaz for the weather. It has been a pretty wet afternoon

across much of Wales but the rain is clearing tonight. It will remain

windy, especially along those coastal areas. Here is the radar

showing the extent of the rain coming in. Through the afternoon it

has been fragmenting and tonight, some sunshine likely across parts of

the South and West as that rain band clears eastwards. Becoming drier for

a time with variable amounts of cloud. Tomorrow morning, by dawn, we

will start to see the next weather front approaching, bringing some

rain into temperature, Ceredigion. Tomorrow, we do have a series of

weather friends pushing in from the west. First thing tomorrow morning,

not very nice for the rush hour. Strong winds and also the rain to go

with it as well. Easing as we head into the afternoon. Lingering across

parts of the South and South East. Further north drier and brighter

with some sunshine along the north coast. To tomorrow night, that Wayne

Barnes will clear, some evening sunshine, variable amounts of cloud.

A brief break on Thursday morning but not for long. We do have another

weather front coming in by Thursday afternoon, bringing more rain with

it. A dry and bright start to Thursday. By the afternoon we will

see a few showers and more persistent rain pushing in from the

West. Temperatures not too impressive.

I'll have an update for you here at 8pm

and again after the BBC News at 10pm.

From all of us on the programme, good evening.