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This is Breakfast, with Louise Minchin

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Donald Trump goes face to face with intelligence chiefs

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after weeks of speculation over hacking.

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They'll tell the president-elect why they think Russia intervened

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in the US election campaign, as he faces criticism from both

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Grow up. Time to be an adult. You're president.

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Unions say a strike on Southern Rail will go ahead next week

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despite a report which says it is safe for train drivers

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I will try to keep my feet dry all morning at the London boat show,

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giving us a glimpse into the UK's growing leisure boat industry. From

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small, human powered, two giant super yachts.

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And it's one of the highlights of the sporting calendar,

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as the top teams enter the FA cup, and one of the world's most

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successful managers Pep Guardiola gets his first taste

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The sounds of Stonehenge and why they could reveal some

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Good morning. Will it be the sound of ice scrapers echoing around the

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south and east today? It is a day of contrast. While some have frosts,

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temperatures down to -6, for others it is cloudy and wet. The forecast

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coming up in 15 minutes. The US president-elect

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Donald Trump is due to meet intelligence chiefs today,

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to discuss claims that Russia tried to interfere in the American

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presidential election. He's faced criticism from both

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Republicans and Democrats about his approach to

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the allegations, and less than 24-hours before the meeting one

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of his top intelligence advisers The three wise men of US

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intelligence. Together in their belief that Russian hacking

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interfered with the presidential election, intending to help Donald

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Trump win. Hacking was only one part of it. And it also entailed

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classical propaganda, disinformation. But in the last few

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hours the President-elect has again questioned that judgement. How is

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the FBI so sure there was hacking, he asked in a tweet, when they

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didn't even examine the Democratic campaign computers allegedly

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targeted? It is the latest in a long list of online outbursts. First

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rubbishing intelligence officials before saying his -- he's a big fan,

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then challenging again. The CIA said he was expect in a feisty meeting. I

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am hoping that he will be respectful and professional. Respectful of the

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agency as well as the community and looking forward to a rather robust

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if not sporty discussion on this issue. There has been more blunt

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criticism of Mr Trump's approach from his political enemies. Grow up.

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Time to be an adult, you're president. Not president just yet,

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but Donald Trump's already announced at least two of these men will be

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replaced when he takes office two weeks today.

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Theresa May is due to hold her first meeting with Donald Trump,

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It's emerged that two of the Prime Minister's closest

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aides went to Washington in December to hold discussions

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Our political correspondent, Eleanor Garnier,

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It will be a significant moment, as is any meeting between the UK Prime

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Minister and the new US president. But Theresa May's relationship with

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the White House is especially important, as she tries to reshape

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the UK's role, in taking Britain out of the EU. Archie won't be the first

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UK politician to meet Donald Trump. That was Nigel Farage and last night

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he was boasting that he will be at Mr Trump's inauguration. But having

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sent her two most trusted and senior aides highlights the importance that

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Theresa May and Number 10 place on establishing a strong relationship

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with Mr Trump. I think that meeting between her aides and Mr Trump's top

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team might have been a little bit awkward. Her two Chiefs of staff

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have publicly criticised Mr Trump in the staff. One said that Donald

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Trump is a chump and the other said American politics was depressing

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enough before Trump took off. Clearly building at a few bridges

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hasn't gone amiss. Thanks for an much. We will look ahead to that

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meeting between Donald Trump and his intelligence advisers a little later

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this morning. The failure to predict the financial

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crisis of 2008 was a Michael Fish moment for economists,

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the Bank of England's chief Andy Haldane compared financial

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forecasts to the famously inaccurate reassurances given

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by the BBC weatherman ahead Mr Haldane said the profession

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was "to some degree in crisis" following the crash

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and the Brexit vote. The train drivers' union Aslef says

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it will go ahead with three days of strike action on the Southern

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Rail network next week. That's despite a report

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by the Independent Rail Regulator claiming that trains

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with driver-operated doors, A busy commuter line brought to a

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standstill in December when Southern Rail's drivers and conductors went

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on strike. Passengers on the railway between London, Surrey, East Sussex

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and West Sussex intuit more than 24 strikes last year and they are in

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for more. The drivers union Aslef insists it will go ahead with

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324-hour strikes next week. On Tuesday the 10th, Wednesday the 11th

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and Friday the 13th. The dispute is about this. Southern wants its

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drivers to take over closing the doors, a job currently done by the

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on-board guard. The union says it is less safe and threatens jobs in the

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long run. But after further review the regulator, the office of rail

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and road, has confirmed it regards the plans as safe. Why don't

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intervene? In light of that report the transport secretary Chris

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Grayling says the strike should be called off. He also wants nationwide

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safety guidelines on the way trains are dispatched. At Aslef disputes

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the report and says its members will book out next week. If that goes

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ahead Southern Rail says no train will run on Tuesday, Wednesday and

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Friday. Lenders of both Aslef and the RMT, the rail Maritime and

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Transport Union, are also planning three further strikes late in the

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month. A lack of funding to improve

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forensic science is jeopardising the integrity of the criminal

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justice system in England and Wales, The Forensic Science Regulator

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says it's also concerned about the processing of DNA

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samples taken from suspects The National Police Chiefs Council

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says it has secured extra funding to respond to the challenges

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faced by the service. Bed blocking in the NHS in England

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has become significantly worse in mental health trusts

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than in acute hospitals, Ministers say they will be

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spending ?400 million over the next four years,

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to ensure mental health teams can provide support to

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people in their homes. Oliver Lang helps his father run

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a small Post Office in Norfolk. In 2014, the 27-year-old

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was detained under the Mental Health He spent several weeks

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in a psychiatric unit but even when he was well enough

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to leave he couldn't. Delays in arranging suitable support

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in the community meant he spent a further two months

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unnecessarily in hospital. I just felt like I was in danger

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in there because a lot happens in hospital and I felt

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like if someone attacked me I would have to defend myself,

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but if I did defend myself and hurt someone then they'd say

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I was a danger to the public still and they would keep me

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locked up for longer, so I was trying to be

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whiter than white. The latest figures show more

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than 200,000 bed days were lost in the NHS in England

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as a whole in October 2016 due For NHS trusts specialising

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in physical healthcare, that represented a 30% rise

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on the previous 12 months. But for those trusts most closely

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focused on mental health and learning disabilities,

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the increase was 56%. The analysis was carried out

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for this former care minister who says the figures show that

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mental health patients It means there's a shortage

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of community psychiatric nurses, a shortage of support services

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like detox facilities and a shortage in social care, which I think has

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hit people with mental Ministers say they're spending ?400

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million over the next four years to ensure mental health teams can

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provide more support to people Stalkers will face longer

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jail terms under a drive The maximum sentence

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in England and Wales will rise The Ministry of Justice says

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the plans will help ensure the punishment reflects the damaging

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impact stalking has on victims. The funeral will take place today

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of the man who was shot dead 28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died

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after officers stopped a car he was in on a motorway slip

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road near Huddersfield. A man arrested as part of the police

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operation will appear in court later The actor Om Puri, who starred

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in the British comedy East is East, He was 66 and is reported

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to have had a heart attack. Om Puri was awarded an honorary OBE

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for his contribution to the British William Lindesay has been obsessed

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with the Great Wall of China since seeing it in a school atlas

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as a child in England. And last year he embarked

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on an epic journey, leaving his home on Merseyside,

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to fulfil a lifelong ambition to film the wall in its entirety

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from the air, using a drone. His travels have taken him all over

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north China and even to Mongolia. You can see some of the

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extraordinary images he has filmed. That looks absolutely stunning.

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A baby elephant in Thailand has been forced to overcome her fear of water

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by learning to walk again using hydrotherapy.

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Meet five-month-old Fah Jam, who lost part of her foot in a trap

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She'll need up to three months of treatment to help strengthen

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the muscles in her leg, but her vet says she's already

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Despite most elephants loving the water,

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Fah Jam was a little nervous going into the water.

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I can see why she is a little bit nervous.

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Apparently the treatment is working and it is ongoing.

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Lovely. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, Mike.

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It works for footballers and sport stars as it takes the weight off.

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Anyway, talking of football, one of the highlights of the sporting

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calendar anywhere in the world, the FA Cup third round. The giants of

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all go against these teams that many people have never heard of. Really I

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suppose you can say it has more unlikely heroes and places you've

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never heard of any fairy tale. That's what makes it so special.

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But it kicks off tonight with one of the most famous managers in

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football, but he has never tasted winning the FA Cup.

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West Ham host Manchester City in the first

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For City manager Pep Guardiola, it's a new experience.

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He's never been involved in the Cup and he says he's looking forward

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Elsewhere, Hull City have appointed Marco Silva in their bid to avoid

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The Portuguese, who's nicknamed the 'mini-Mourinho',

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has signed a deal until the end of the season, after Mike Phelan

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Sir Andy Murray is through to the semi-finals of the Qatar Open

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after a hard fought victory over Spain's Nicolas Almagro yesterday.

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He'll face Thomas Berdych in the last four and could face

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And the Welsh Rugby Union say they've done all they can to bring

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The Wales and British and Irish Lions full-back's

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contract with the French club expires

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If you've ever wondered what Eddie Jones's. Looks like, I'd will show

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you in a moment. Can you do it now? Shall we break protocol? What gets

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me is sport stars have small dogs. Andy Murray, Djokovic, they both

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have small dogs. Eddie Jones... He is here with his little dog, Annie.

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So sweet. What he/she?

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Some sort of Collie. -- what is she?

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If you base that on the premise of owners looking like their dogs, not

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much going on there. No, a lot of hair, not so much!

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Maybe it is to do with portability. Indeed. Travel a lot and less danger

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of injury. If you have a huge Alsatian or rottweiler and it has an

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injury potential you will be out of the next match!

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I think it looks like a happy -- papillon but I am not an expert.

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They are talking about this Michael Fish moment here.

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The Telegraph film review. Five stars to the Jackie Kennedy by pic.

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This is Natalie Portman in the title role. Patients also to be diagnosed

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by robots and a new NHS service. The Times, a couple of stories.

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Diesel pumping out more than twice the toxic gas of lorries and buses

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of the same age, according to new analysis. The other story is about

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the White House and the announcement that Theresa May will be visiting

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the White House sometime in February. Relatively soon. That is

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the habitat and start building relationships.

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The Guardian talking about this man who has found it impossible to get a

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UK passport, despite the fact that he was born educated.

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I saw this yesterday. I don't know if you have seen people walking

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through supermarket in dressing gowns. I don't have a problem with

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it. Apparently this is a photograph taken actually in a supermarket near

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here in Salford. Some young ladies walking through the supermarket in

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their pyjamas. Some people were offended by it. Some people are

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really deeply offended. Lots of other shops will apparently give

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them a warning, Tesco, but other shops say you can come to our shop

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as long as you were not wearing your birthday suit. I would not even

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notice what other people were wearing when I go to get some beans.

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I have definitely gone to the shops in slippers. I don't even have

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slippers! I have been there in a onesie. In a onesie! There was

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nobody there. It was a fox onesie. It makes you look with a fag. I

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don't wear it very often. -- makes you look fat. What were you buying?

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Milk and a toilet roll, mostly. Marvellous. I bet Matt is dreading

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the question now. Do you want to just equip the weather or join in

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the inappropriate things at the supermarket conversation? I have

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never gone to a supermarket in my pyjamas or a fox outfit. This

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morning you might need a slightly warmer onesie across the South and

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east. It is another morning to scrape frost of the car. A big

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temperature contrast compared to yesterday. These temperatures

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started yesterday widely below freezing. Oxfordshire and Greater

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London still with a widespread frost, but elsewhere, especially

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County Down and the Scottish Borders, a big temperature boost.

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County Down around 40 degrees warmer than it was this time yesterday

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morning. -- 14 degrees. That is because of a change of weather

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condition. Cloud spilling through the night and some rain as well. Air

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coming from the Atlantic is bringing lovely sunny conditions yesterday

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and squeezing into the south-east, but bringing the rain. Wettest in

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Northern Ireland. The rain has been turning heavier of the last few

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hours. Splashes of rain and the odd spot of rain and drizzle into

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western parts of England and Wales. For the next few hours, rain

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continues in Northern Ireland. Same for western parts of Scotland.

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Heaviest in the far south-west. A bit of sunshine coming your way.

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After initial breaks in the cloud to the east of the Pennines, where

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there is a frost, temperatures will rise. Cloud was built in and then it

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goes across western parts. More of a Bruce Poon yesterday. The south and

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east, a widespread frost. The odd patch of mist and freezing fog. If

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you are out on the road, you will need to scrape your windscreen. Once

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the fog clears, the brightest weather throughout the day. Sunny

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spells continuing. But the sunny blue skies when he saw yesterday. A

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few hints of sunshine at times for northern Scotland, but the rain is

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as in Northern Ireland and the heaviest rain into the afternoon for

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parts of northern England and north and west Wales. Quite a murky round

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bequests. 11 degrees in both fast and four or five in Norwich -- the

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coasts. The rainy weather makes it would East Anglia tonight. Lots of

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cloud for England and Wales. Very misty. Frost free into the start of

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Saturday. Across Scotland and Northern Ireland, clear skies, and

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from northern Scotland, the chance of frost into the start of the

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weekend. The brightest weather for Saturday will be northern Scotland

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with sunny spells. Elsewhere, most places will be dry. A lot of cloud.

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Very misty over the hills of northern England and Wales. The odd

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spot of rain and drizzle around as well. Temperatures in northern

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Scotland around five or six at best. Ten or 11 in the south. The same

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sort of conditions as well into Sunday. Thank you.

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From small boat-builders to glamorous super yachts,

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business is booming for the UK's leisure boating industry.

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Figures out today show that its grown

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Coletta's finding her sea legs at the London Boat Show for us.

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It looks lovely. They put that pool in especially. Yes, it is lovely.

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This is the London Boat Show. There is a real river outside, but we are

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using the slightly warmer this version, and intellect. There are

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about 400 boats and display. It is a big industry. That is the leisure

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boat industry, not cruise boats. Smaller ones from the very small to

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be big in fancy yachts use it. The industry is worth about ?3 billion

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to the UK. It is growing. Not hugely, but by about 1% each year

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for the last five years. It employs a significant number of people. With

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a third or fourth biggest in terms of employment in the world when it

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comes to leisure boat industry. Some of the boats are very small and

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human powered, like these guys. Rob, is it a nice day for a paddle?

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Excellent. Nice and warm in there. I will try to keep my own feet dry. I

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will nip in and talk to pip, who is in charge. This is going very fast,

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watersports. Yes. We have the entry-level boating, the kayaking,

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stand-up paddle board, that is on the increase. That is what we are

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finding. Thank you. We will hear lots more throughout the programme.

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I will head down to the CP at at the other end as well. -- superyacht.

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They are obviously experts because no one has fallen in. Not yet. I'm

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sure it can be arranged. We will be back there later. It looks like fun.

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Like a little machine, in little surf machine. Brilliant.

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It's a time of year when darker days and financial pressures can cause

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anxiety and depression for some people, and it's over the winter

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months that health professionals say they see an increase

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One type of support that's on offer is internet-based therapy,

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that involves chatting to someone and getting advice online.

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Breakfast's Graham Satchell has been to meet one man who's benefited

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from this way of treating depression.

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I struggle. I have struggled. Not a time of year I enjoy at all. When I

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expected to be I'm supposed to be, and struggling. Christmas and New

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Year is a difficult time panic. He has lived with anxiety and

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depression for many years. I worry about everything. I worried about

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this interview. I have been since I found out it was happening. My

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natural instinct is to worry about everything. I constantly thinking

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and analysing everything going on around me. I struggle to make

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decisions, some of them really simple decisions. When I will have

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supper, for example. I can spend an awful long time in the supermarket

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just trying to get through that kind of thing. Nick went to his GP for

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help. She offered him a series of online therapy sessions. It is a

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typed conversation with a trained therapist they never made. It is

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quite strange getting started -- meet. You talk about how you are

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feeling, what you are thinking. There is a pause while the other

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person, your therapist, is waiting to respond. And just writing

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something down, which I have never done before and were scared to do

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it, I found it was a safe way to do that. It had quite a profound effect

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for me personally. As well as the convenience of this kind of therapy,

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advocates say doing it helps some people to open up. I found it really

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liberating in a way I was not expecting. I shared some pretty

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challenging things from my perspective, anyway. It is

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surprisingly how much more information on the patient has been

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able to share using the system. Online therapy on NHS is normally

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delivered by private companies. Critics say it is just a cheap way

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of providing a service that should be face-to-face. But the therapist

:24:40.:24:43.

to do it say the success rate is the same and the process is surprising.

:24:44.:24:49.

When you put a computer between an experienced therapist and patient,

:24:50.:24:54.

all sorts of things can happen. Usually, in my experience, those

:24:55.:24:59.

problem statements, the first thing they say to their therapists, take a

:25:00.:25:06.

little bit of getting at. Here we see it occurring right there in the

:25:07.:25:09.

first session. That is really important, because once you know

:25:10.:25:13.

what the problem is, you can start the treatment. Talking to a

:25:14.:25:17.

therapist online won't work for everyone, but it has helped make. I

:25:18.:25:23.

guess it gave me a way to cope -- Nick. I was really struggling to

:25:24.:25:26.

cope with what I was thinking, and it gave me a real way to cope. It

:25:27.:25:34.

can be especially hard this time of year for people.

:25:35.:25:35.

That was Nick Martin speaking to Breakfast's Graham Satchell.

:25:36.:25:39.

He's been dubbed Britain's grumpiest shopkeeper after charging customers

:25:40.:25:44.

50 pence to browse his second-hand book store.

:25:45.:25:47.

But with small retailers being squeezed by high street giants

:25:48.:25:50.

on one side and internet shopping on the other,

:25:51.:25:53.

you might think that Steve Bloom is making a brave stand.

:25:54.:25:56.

It is hard being an independent retailer, leave it like that.

:25:57.:26:10.

A charming market town. Beyond these stores is a bookshop, and browsers

:26:11.:26:22.

are in for a surprise. Have you bought anything here before? No. We

:26:23.:26:29.

came here about five units go. It is 50p to come in. And then between

:26:30.:26:35.

you, not age, and if you buy something, you get it back. Not

:26:36.:26:40.

everybody likes it, and certain words have been exchanged which you

:26:41.:26:44.

will not find in any of these books. It is my shop, my little world. I

:26:45.:26:50.

run it. I'm comfortable with feeling the people who come in and

:26:51.:26:55.

appreciate it, and I do feel it is my right. People say to me, you

:26:56.:26:59.

should not be doing this. Well, you get charged all the time for all

:27:00.:27:03.

sorts of things. If there is a book fair, a craft fair, a car park.

:27:04.:27:09.

Toilets. It is not so ridiculous as people say it is. But the parish

:27:10.:27:13.

council says it is embarrassed. It has received over 20 complaints.

:27:14.:27:18.

When people who are unaware of the charge I challenged by him to pay

:27:19.:27:24.

it, he then is rude and offensive. It spreads like wildfire. The damage

:27:25.:27:31.

to our reputation in the wider world is quite considerable. The building

:27:32.:27:36.

where Steve's shop is based is run by trustees and they say his

:27:37.:27:39.

management style does not constitute a public nuisance. Their lawyers

:27:40.:27:43.

have told him so. In the meantime, Steve has agreed to put up a sign

:27:44.:27:47.

which will tell customers what to expect.

:27:48.:27:51.

Faaiuga! Charge 50p and some people do what you going to supermarkets

:27:52.:28:01.

with your pyjamas on -- There you go! When you hear Steve explain his

:28:02.:28:07.

thinking, it sort of makes sense. You can understand why people are

:28:08.:28:11.

offended as well. Let us know what you think via the usual means and

:28:12.:28:16.

online as well. Time now to get the news, travel and

:28:17.:28:17.

I'm back with the latest from the BBC London newsroom

:28:18.:31:39.

This is Breakfast, with Louise Minchin and Charlie

:31:40.:31:44.

We'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment,

:31:45.:31:50.

As Donald Trump prepares to meet top intelligence chiefs to discuss

:31:51.:31:55.

the allegations of Russia hacking, we'll ask one a former diplomat

:31:56.:31:58.

who worked in the White House what the latest row tells us

:31:59.:32:02.

Is it fair to charge customers to browse?

:32:03.:32:09.

After a shop owner receives complaints for charging 50p

:32:10.:32:11.

to enter his bookshop, we ask whether independent retailers

:32:12.:32:14.

should be allowed to make their own rules.

:32:15.:32:29.

They've even opened their own dance school, but we'll hear why Kevin

:32:30.:32:40.

still tries to copy Karen's moves when they go out.

:32:41.:32:42.

But now a summary of this morning's main news.

:32:43.:32:48.

The US President-elect Donald Trump is due to meet intelligence chiefs

:32:49.:32:51.

today, to discuss claims that Russia tried

:32:52.:32:53.

to interfere in the American presidential election.

:32:54.:32:55.

He's faced criticism from both Republicans and Democrats

:32:56.:32:57.

about his approach to the allegations, and less

:32:58.:32:59.

than 24-hours before the meeting one of his top intelligence advisers

:33:00.:33:02.

The three wise men of US intelligence.

:33:03.:33:08.

Together in their belief that Russian hacking interfered

:33:09.:33:11.

with the presidential election, intending to help Donald Trump win.

:33:12.:33:18.

And it also entailed classical propaganda,

:33:19.:33:29.

But in the last few hours, the President-elect has again

:33:30.:33:35.

How is the FBI so sure there was hacking, he asked

:33:36.:33:40.

in a tweet, when they didn't even examine the Democratic campaign

:33:41.:33:43.

It's the latest in a long list of online outbursts.

:33:44.:33:48.

First rubbishing intelligence officials before saying

:33:49.:33:52.

he's a big fan, then challenging them once again.

:33:53.:33:56.

The CIA director said he was expecting a feisty meeting.

:33:57.:34:05.

I am hoping that he is going to be respectful of the professional.

:34:06.:34:09.

Respectful of the intelligence agency as well as the community,

:34:10.:34:12.

and I'm looking forward to a rather robust, if not sporty,

:34:13.:34:15.

There has been more blunt criticism of Mr Trump's approach

:34:16.:34:19.

Time to be an adult, you're president.

:34:20.:34:24.

Not president just yet, but Donald Trump's already announced

:34:25.:34:26.

at least two of these men will be replaced when he takes office

:34:27.:34:30.

Theresa May is due to hold her first meeting with Donald Trump,

:34:31.:34:39.

It's emerged that two of the Prime Minister's

:34:40.:34:43.

closest aides went to Washington in December to hold discussions

:34:44.:34:46.

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a 'Michael Fish'

:34:47.:34:56.

moment for economists, the Bank of England's chief

:34:57.:34:58.

Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously

:34:59.:35:03.

inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead

:35:04.:35:05.

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis",

:35:06.:35:12.

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:35:13.:35:16.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three days

:35:17.:35:20.

of strike action on the Southern Rail network next week.

:35:21.:35:23.

That's despite a report by the Independent Rail

:35:24.:35:26.

Regulator claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

:35:27.:35:28.

Transport Secretary Chris Grayling says the strikes are politically

:35:29.:35:35.

We will be talking to him On Breakfast later.

:35:36.:35:44.

Stalkers will face longer jail terms as part of a drive

:35:45.:35:47.

The maximum sentence in England and Wales will rise

:35:48.:35:51.

The Ministry of Justice says the bans will help ensure

:35:52.:35:57.

the punishment reflects the damaging impact stalking has on victims.

:35:58.:35:59.

Bed blocking in the NHS in England has become significantly worse

:36:00.:36:02.

in mental health trusts than in acute hospitals,

:36:03.:36:04.

While physical health care saw a 30% rise in bed blocking

:36:05.:36:14.

on the previous year, mental health trusts experienced

:36:15.:36:16.

Ministers said they will spend ?400 million over the next four years

:36:17.:36:23.

to ensure mental health teams can provide support to people

:36:24.:36:26.

The funeral will take place today of the man who was shot dead

:36:27.:36:30.

28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after officers stopped a car

:36:31.:36:35.

he was in on a motorway slip road near Huddersfield.

:36:36.:36:38.

A man arrested as part of the police operation will appear in court later

:36:39.:36:41.

The actor Om Puri, who starred in the British comedy East is East,

:36:42.:36:47.

He was 66 and is reported to have had a heart attack.

:36:48.:36:54.

Om Puri was awarded an honorary OBE for his contribution to the British

:36:55.:36:58.

Those are the main stories. Mike's here.

:36:59.:37:13.

Good morning. Reflecting on the magic of the FA Cup. It is the one

:37:14.:37:17.

time of the year when we am mentioning the likes of the great

:37:18.:37:24.

names, along with the less so. Talking about City, Pep Guardiola

:37:25.:37:30.

gets a first taste of the FA Cup as his side travel to West Ham tonight.

:37:31.:37:37.

It is live on BBC One. The third round of the FA Cup are under way.

:37:38.:37:39.

The first match of the weekend is an all Premier League tie

:37:40.:37:42.

at the London Stadium where West Ham host Manchester City.

:37:43.:37:45.

Guardiola has achieved many things in the game

:37:46.:37:47.

already but he's never been involved in an FA Cup tie.

:37:48.:37:51.

What I hear before, it is special because the lower teams can beat the

:37:52.:38:02.

big teams. That's why it is so fascinating. It happens in the cup

:38:03.:38:06.

as well. That's why I am looking forward. But of course it is tough,

:38:07.:38:12.

it will be luck of the draw. A big game for us and a big game for

:38:13.:38:25.

them, the FA Cup. It is for the fans of course and I am sure they will

:38:26.:38:36.

put a very strong team tomorrow, because it's a big chance for them

:38:37.:38:38.

to get a trophy. Hull City have appointed

:38:39.:38:39.

the former Sporting Lisbon and Olympiakos Coach Marco Silva

:38:40.:38:41.

as their new manager as they attempt to avoid relegation

:38:42.:38:44.

from the Premier League. The 39-year-old Portuguese,

:38:45.:38:48.

who's nicknamed the 'mini Mourinho', has signed a contract

:38:49.:38:50.

until the end of the season. He led Olympiakos to

:38:51.:38:54.

the Greek title last season. Hull are currently

:38:55.:38:56.

bottom of the table. Your hammock Kaunda has been beaten

:38:57.:39:11.

in the semifinals of the sheds and -- in China.

:39:12.:39:13.

Sir Andy Murray is through to the Qatar Open semi-finals

:39:14.:39:16.

after beating Spain's Nicolas Almagro in straight sets yesterday.

:39:17.:39:19.

But the Briton didn't have things all his own way in Doha.

:39:20.:39:22.

The first set went to a tie break, which Murray won 7-6.

:39:23.:39:34.

It was almost as tight in the second, but at 5-5

:39:35.:39:37.

the world number one broke his opponent and served

:39:38.:39:39.

The Welsh Rugby Union say it's made the best offer it can to bring

:39:40.:39:45.

The Wales full-back's contract with the French club expires

:39:46.:39:49.

Cardiff Blues and Scarlets are thought to be interested

:39:50.:39:53.

in signing him on a National Dual contract, with the Welsh rugby union

:39:54.:39:57.

We remember him paddling down to the medals in the summer, but now

:39:58.:40:06.

Richard Hounslow has retired from the sport.

:40:07.:40:08.

The 35-year-old won two silver medals in the canoe double

:40:09.:40:11.

with partner David Florence at London 2012 and Rio 2016.

:40:12.:40:14.

He said it had been a true honour to represent his country

:40:15.:40:17.

He has been canoeing since he can remember, so at 35 you can

:40:18.:40:25.

understand why he has had enough of sitting in those tiny boats,

:40:26.:40:28.

hurtling down the rapids. He said he loved some of it, but hated some of

:40:29.:40:40.

it. And he isn't going to retire? Everybody is retiring this week! I

:40:41.:40:41.

don't think so! The quality of forensic science work

:40:42.:40:45.

in England and Wales is at "significant risk"

:40:46.:40:47.

because of funding problems, In her annual report,

:40:48.:40:50.

Gillian Tully also expressed concerns about the way DNA samples

:40:51.:40:53.

are taken and processed She joins us live now

:40:54.:40:56.

from our Southampton studio. Good morning. Thanks for joining us.

:40:57.:41:09.

This is the third time, we are trying to count, in three years that

:41:10.:41:14.

concerns have been raised about forensic work. What's going on and

:41:15.:41:17.

what's being done to change it? First of all it is worth putting it

:41:18.:41:22.

in context. The vast majority of forensic science work is done well

:41:23.:41:26.

in this country. At my job is to make sure that it is all done well

:41:27.:41:30.

and to set a quality standards for that. What I'm finding is that I am

:41:31.:41:37.

coming up against both police workers and small companies that say

:41:38.:41:40.

they can't afford to meet the standards I have said, so that's

:41:41.:41:44.

clearly a concern, because it is important that we don't drop the

:41:45.:41:48.

standards, but that we make sure that the service is done properly.

:41:49.:41:52.

We looked at one case where an investigation had been compromised.

:41:53.:41:56.

Can you tell us what happened and how it may have happened? In that

:41:57.:42:01.

case it looks like there was contamination between two different

:42:02.:42:04.

people who were examined in on sexual assault. I have to say that

:42:05.:42:10.

most of these examinations are carried out extremely

:42:11.:42:14.

professionally, but the DNA methods we use now are extremely sensitive

:42:15.:42:19.

and sell a great deal of care needs to be taken to avoid contamination

:42:20.:42:23.

and we treat any incident where there has been contamination very

:42:24.:42:26.

seriously, but we treat it as a learning opportunity. So we use it

:42:27.:42:33.

to make sure that all other referral centres learn from those mistakes

:42:34.:42:37.

and get better each time. If things like that happen what are the risks?

:42:38.:42:41.

Resume a bleak the case and there? -- presumably. Other than the

:42:42.:42:47.

forensic science in that case I don't know anything else about the

:42:48.:42:50.

case, so I wouldn't be able to comment on specifically what

:42:51.:42:53.

happened in that case. I know the sample was taken for forensic

:42:54.:42:57.

analysis and it would be able to be used any more, but I can't really

:42:58.:43:01.

say more widely. You said that police forces and private companies

:43:02.:43:07.

have been telling you they can't afford to address the standards

:43:08.:43:09.

you've been talking about. What do you think needs to be done? I think

:43:10.:43:15.

most forensic science is done... Is commissioned by the police and it is

:43:16.:43:19.

either done by their own laboratories in house or it is done

:43:20.:43:24.

by commercial companies. Virtually all of those commercial companies

:43:25.:43:28.

are already meeting the standards and police are working hard to get

:43:29.:43:32.

to where they need to be and they are doing a great deal of work

:43:33.:43:36.

towards that. But I am hearing from practitioners on the ground that

:43:37.:43:40.

they are just not getting the level of resource they need to make sure

:43:41.:43:45.

that they do meet the timelines for achieving the standards. So I think

:43:46.:43:50.

what they really need is the support from the very top of their

:43:51.:43:54.

organisations to make sure that they have the support they need. How

:43:55.:43:58.

important are forensic stee you think in modern-day policing? --

:43:59.:44:05.

forensics do you think. There is very little data on how important

:44:06.:44:11.

and valuable forensics is to policing, but we know that when a

:44:12.:44:15.

crime scene sample is added to the national DNA database that there is

:44:16.:44:20.

an over 60% chance that there will be a match reported back from that.

:44:21.:44:26.

So police will have a name, as a lead to take them further in the

:44:27.:44:29.

crime. So it can be extremely important. We should say we have a

:44:30.:44:35.

statement from the National Police Chiefs Council. The basis of it is

:44:36.:44:39.

that the police service is committed to achieving accreditation and

:44:40.:44:42.

improving standards of forensic science.

:44:43.:44:45.

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

:44:46.:44:47.

Less than 24 hours before he's due to receive a detailed briefing

:44:48.:44:52.

from intelligence chiefs, Donald Trump's top intelligence

:44:53.:44:54.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three days

:44:55.:45:03.

of strike action on the Southern rail network next week.

:45:04.:45:13.

Let's have a look at the weather. Good morning. It looks lovely. Good

:45:14.:45:22.

morning. It is another day of blue skies and frost for some this

:45:23.:45:27.

morning. Some are starting the day and lovely and sunny but for others

:45:28.:45:33.

it is not. The grey skies with this and there will be outbreaks of rain.

:45:34.:45:37.

That has opened up the contrasts in temperatures. -6 across some parts

:45:38.:45:41.

of the south-east where skies are plus eight in Northern Ireland,

:45:42.:45:46.

where this time yesterday, we were at minus five. A huge change for

:45:47.:45:51.

you, we do have cloud and rain. Milder air, almost cold air, with

:45:52.:45:55.

others through the weekend. The real chill will be for the Balkans, with

:45:56.:46:02.

a high of around minus 12. Temperatures on the rise in the next

:46:03.:46:06.

few hours. Still frosty the morning commute. A few dense fog patches to

:46:07.:46:11.

slow your journey this morning. For the west, temperatures lifting above

:46:12.:46:14.

freezing. In milder start for Cornwall and west Wales. More of a

:46:15.:46:18.

breeze with patchy rain and drizzle and turning down in the north-west

:46:19.:46:22.

of England quickly. Frost for the Pennines. That was bogey start to

:46:23.:46:26.

lift as the cloud spills over. Patchy rain across Scotland. Wet the

:46:27.:46:32.

Northern Ireland with heavy bursts of rain. The north-east of Scotland

:46:33.:46:36.

avoid the rain. Hazy sunshine at times. Not too bad for Scotland. The

:46:37.:46:42.

wetter weather will push southwards and attends wet across northern

:46:43.:46:45.

England especially west of the Pennines and towards Wales. The

:46:46.:46:49.

heaviest bursts in the hills. South and east, it stays dry and

:46:50.:46:53.

reasonably sunny. Temperatures of four degrees in Norwich compared to

:46:54.:46:57.

11 in Belfast this afternoon, where the rain will gradually ease. It

:46:58.:47:01.

does leave a legacy of low cloud. As the rain pushes towards the south

:47:02.:47:06.

through tonight, it will lift temperatures across southern areas.

:47:07.:47:16.

Mist tonight in prospect. Most will be frost free. Misty on the hills.

:47:17.:47:19.

The clearest skies will be northern Scotland. A touch of frost to take

:47:20.:47:23.

us into the start of the weekend. The best of the sunshine will be on

:47:24.:47:27.

Saturday in Scotland. Misty around the hills with the odd spot of rain

:47:28.:47:30.

and drizzle. Damp to the English Channel. Dry into the afternoon and

:47:31.:47:34.

some hints of sunshine at times to the east of high ground.

:47:35.:47:37.

Temperatures tomorrow, a big boost across the south, double figures.

:47:38.:47:40.

Five or six in the north-east of Scotland. But you have sunshine to

:47:41.:47:45.

compensate. Into Sunday, most bases drought once again. A lot of cloud

:47:46.:47:52.

around. The best chances of sunshine for Scotland and the north-east of

:47:53.:47:56.

England. Still temperatures are up on what we have today, and still in

:47:57.:48:01.

double figures as we finish the weekend. A day of contrast today and

:48:02.:48:05.

slightly cold weekend on the way. Thank you. We are about to do

:48:06.:48:10.

something that looked really fun. I love this. Maybe not ideal weather

:48:11.:48:15.

for selling. We will go to the London Boat Show this morning. --

:48:16.:48:24.

sailing. What is this machine? I love it. We have lost the machine

:48:25.:48:30.

and now we can see a kayak. This little thing is a seabob. Welcome to

:48:31.:48:38.

the London Boat Show. I'm here because the UK has a growing

:48:39.:48:41.

industry but you may not have thought much about. It is the

:48:42.:48:46.

pleasure boat industry. Rob is one of the guys doing demonstrations for

:48:47.:48:52.

the next couple of days. You have a new toy. We only got our hands on it

:48:53.:48:57.

this morning. We have a bird of demonstrations going on all through

:48:58.:49:00.

the day. We have loads of brilliant agreement to play with. We are

:49:01.:49:04.

getting used to it and seeing if we can find our feet on it. You have a

:49:05.:49:08.

practice and I'll come back later. This is a growing industry, about 1%

:49:09.:49:12.

every year for the last five years. The men in charge of the boat show

:49:13.:49:26.

is Howard. There are 400 boats on display from the very small to be

:49:27.:49:30.

much bigger. Which end is growing faster of this industry? At the

:49:31.:49:33.

London Boat Show, you will see the whole spectrum of the industry. It

:49:34.:49:37.

is a showcase from canoes up to super yachts. But the luxury

:49:38.:49:39.

powerboat sector and boating tourism have had a resurgence over recent

:49:40.:49:43.

years. Across the industry, we are doing quite well. We are in a nice

:49:44.:49:47.

position in the UK as an island nation. Nobody is very far from

:49:48.:49:50.

what. Wherever you lift, you are not far from the coast or a waterway,

:49:51.:49:55.

like the canal network or the Thames. We are an island nation and

:49:56.:49:59.

the British people love getting on water. This is how you can find out

:50:00.:50:03.

where to do it. People are spending a lot in this industry. When you

:50:04.:50:07.

talk about UK boatbuilding, you may be picturing boats like this beauty

:50:08.:50:11.

in the background. Beautiful wooden sailing boats. But the industry has

:50:12.:50:15.

changed a lot recently. We are getting into the more high-tech and

:50:16.:50:18.

the things with much more high school jobs. I will attempt to board

:50:19.:50:22.

this boat, and you can join me. Hop on board. Phoebe is with us this

:50:23.:50:28.

morning. Good morning. This is clearly a boat that gusts a pretty

:50:29.:50:35.

penny. It is an expensive hobby -- costs. We are finding people are

:50:36.:50:39.

trying to add experiences into their holidays. People could maybe rent a

:50:40.:50:44.

boat to go on the rivers or the British waterways or overseas.

:50:45.:50:48.

Cruising in general is growing. But expedition cruises and when people

:50:49.:50:54.

go to places like the Arctic or Antarctica, that is increasing. A

:50:55.:50:59.

tour operator has lodged a Pacific River Cruise brochure because

:51:00.:51:02.

water-based activities are increasing. In the year after the

:51:03.:51:07.

Olympics, there must be an upsurge in blotting and selling in general.

:51:08.:51:11.

We have even seen a company launch and Airbnb type of rental for a

:51:12.:51:17.

cabin on a boat or with their captain to take you around and have

:51:18.:51:22.

your own adventure. We have stand-up paddle boarding, kayak holidays.

:51:23.:51:24.

Everything water-based is really big. Brilliant. We can catch up with

:51:25.:51:31.

Rob and see how he is getting on with his new toy. It is essentially

:51:32.:51:36.

a remote surfboard. Not sure if you can see he is actually controlling

:51:37.:51:40.

this thing in his right hand. So far so good? Looks impressive anyway.

:51:41.:51:44.

Look at this. Absolutely professional. Slight wobble towards

:51:45.:51:50.

the end. That is what we were hoping for, a nice little spice. More from

:51:51.:51:54.

us from the London Boat Show throughout the programme. -- splash.

:51:55.:52:01.

Thank you very much. I destruct my pen, sorry.

:52:02.:52:03.

Its stones are world famous - and no one knows exactly

:52:04.:52:06.

why its there, but now there's a theory that the sound

:52:07.:52:09.

of Stonehenge could unlock some its hidden history.

:52:10.:52:12.

One archaeologist has taken up the challenge of recreating

:52:13.:52:16.

what the acoustics of the ruins would have been like 3000 years ago

:52:17.:52:20.

- and he says it could reveal why the site was so important.

:52:21.:52:23.

Our arts correspondent David Sillito reports.

:52:24.:52:26.

People have been coming here for at least 4000-5000 years,

:52:27.:52:35.

so we're walking in the feet of history.

:52:36.:52:42.

When the wind blows, some people say they hear

:52:43.:52:44.

Thomas Hardy wrote about it in Tess Of The d'Urbervilles,

:52:45.:52:54.

and Doctor Rupert Till is convinced the sound of Stonehenge is part

:52:55.:52:58.

You hear between this beat a little echo.

:52:59.:53:13.

The problem is this is just a fragment of the sound people

:53:14.:53:20.

I met the site's historian, Susan Greening.

:53:21.:53:29.

So, this is the front door of Stonehenge we're

:53:30.:53:31.

That's right, yes, and we are coming into the central space now.

:53:32.:53:36.

It does change a little bit, doesn't it?

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It does, you have the feeling of being enclosed within a space.

:53:39.:53:43.

And that's with many of the stones having gone.

:53:44.:53:45.

What we're looking at today is the ruin of Stonehenge.

:53:46.:53:48.

Many stones have been taken away from the site,

:53:49.:53:51.

many have fallen down, lots have been eroded,

:53:52.:53:53.

It would've been a completely different atmosphere, wouldn't it?

:53:54.:53:56.

However, Rupert Tell has announced...

:53:57.:54:05.

What this new technology offers is a possibility,

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a chance to, well, return back and see and also hear what this

:54:09.:54:12.

We have constructed it by rebuilding Stonehenge digitally and rebuilding

:54:13.:54:25.

the acoustics of the space as it would have been

:54:26.:54:28.

So, how different is the old sound to the sound we have today?

:54:29.:54:40.

Well, if I tap it strong now, you will hear a little bit

:54:41.:54:44.

When all of the stones are put in place, there is a much more

:54:45.:54:48.

powerful sense of enclosure, a slight reverberation,

:54:49.:54:50.

more echo, and it changes more as you walk around.

:54:51.:54:55.

And the reason he is convinced ancient people were interested

:54:56.:54:58.

in sound is because of his work on caves.

:54:59.:55:04.

Hundreds of metres underground they found ancient instruments

:55:05.:55:07.

and human marks on certain stalactites.

:55:08.:55:11.

So today it's just ruin beside a city road,

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a chance to say goodbye to the 21st century and experience the last

:55:38.:55:40.

Strangely fascinating. It sounds like a creaking date at the end.

:55:41.:55:53.

Isn't it weird? -- gate. It's been tried in Sweden -

:55:54.:55:57.

but could a 6-hour working day take We find out what happened when staff

:55:58.:56:05.

at one UK company tried giving up 9-5 and asking

:56:06.:56:09.

whether working fewer hours for the same pay could actually make

:56:10.:56:12.

people more productive. Plenty more on our website

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at the usual address. This is Breakfast,

:59:32.:59:33.

with Louise Minchin Donald Trump goes face to face

:59:34.:00:08.

with intelligence chiefs after weeks of speculation

:00:09.:00:13.

over hacking. They'll tell the President-elect why

:00:14.:00:17.

they think Russia intervened in the US election campaign,

:00:18.:00:19.

as he faces criticism from both Good morning.

:00:20.:00:22.

It's Friday, the 6th of January. Psychiatric units experience worse

:00:23.:00:58.

delays than acute hospitals in England. I'm at the London boat show

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where nothing is going to go wrong but I'm talking about the UK leisure

:01:07.:01:10.

boat industry, it's worth ?3 billion a year and it's growing.

:01:11.:01:12.

And it's one of the highlights of the sporting calendar,

:01:13.:01:14.

as the top teams enter the FA cup, and one of the world's most

:01:15.:01:18.

successful managers Pep Guardiola gets his first taste

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Buy a book or have a browse, we'll talk about the business owner

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whose been charging customers just to come into his shop.

:01:28.:01:32.

And I do feel it's my right. People who say to me you shouldn't be doing

:01:33.:01:40.

this, well, you get charged all the time for all sorts of things.

:01:41.:01:41.

Your forecast comes free of charge this morning but for some it will be

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a morning of scraping ice of the car once again but big contrasts for

:01:53.:01:56.

some compare with yesterday, for some, cloud and rain on the way.

:01:57.:01:59.

The forecast coming up in 15 minutes.

:02:00.:02:01.

The US president-elect Donald Trump is due to meet

:02:02.:02:05.

intelligence chiefs today, to discuss claims that Russia tried

:02:06.:02:08.

to interfere in the American presidential election.

:02:09.:02:09.

He's faced criticism from both Republicans and Democrats

:02:10.:02:12.

about his approach to the allegations, and less

:02:13.:02:14.

than 24-hours before the meeting one of his top intelligence advisers

:02:15.:02:17.

The three wise men of US intelligence.

:02:18.:02:26.

Together in their belief that Russian hacking interfered

:02:27.:02:29.

with the presidential election, intending to help Donald Trump win.

:02:30.:02:31.

And it also entailed classical propaganda, disinformation.

:02:32.:02:49.

But in the last few hours the President-elect has again

:02:50.:02:52.

How is the FBI so sure there was hacking, he asked

:02:53.:02:55.

in a tweet, when they didn't even examine the Democratic campaign

:02:56.:02:58.

It's the latest in a long list of online outbursts.

:02:59.:03:07.

First rubbishing intelligence officials before saying

:03:08.:03:08.

he's a big fan, then challenging it again.

:03:09.:03:10.

The CIA said he was expecting a feisty meeting.

:03:11.:03:15.

I'm hoping that he will be respectful and professional.

:03:16.:03:17.

Respectful of the agency as well as the community,

:03:18.:03:20.

and I'm looking forward to a rather robust, if not sporty,

:03:21.:03:23.

There has been more blunt criticism of Mr Trump's approach

:03:24.:03:36.

Time to be an adult, you're president.

:03:37.:03:42.

For a president not to have confidence in, not to be prepared to

:03:43.:03:54.

listen to the myriad of intelligence agencies, from defence intelligence,

:03:55.:03:56.

the CIA etc is absolutely mindless. Time to be an adult,

:03:57.:04:00.

you're president. You got to do something. Show us

:04:01.:04:07.

what you have. Not president just yet,

:04:08.:04:10.

but Donald Trump's already announced at least two of these men will be

:04:11.:04:13.

replaced when he takes office Theresa May is due to hold her first

:04:14.:04:17.

meeting with Donald Trump, It's emerged that two

:04:18.:04:23.

of the Prime Minister's closest aides went to Washington

:04:24.:04:27.

in December to hold discussions Our political correspondent,

:04:28.:04:30.

Eleanor Garnier, Eleanor, how important will this

:04:31.:04:32.

meeting be for the Prime Minister? I think it will be a significant

:04:33.:04:48.

moment, as is any first meeting between the Prime Minister and new

:04:49.:04:52.

president of America. But Theresa May's relationship with the White

:04:53.:04:57.

House is especially important as she tries to reshape Britain's role in

:04:58.:05:01.

the world as she takes the UK out of the EU. She's not going to be the

:05:02.:05:06.

first UK politician to meet mist Trump, that was UKIP's Nigel Farage.

:05:07.:05:13.

-- mist Trump. Last night he boasted he was going to be at Mr Trump's

:05:14.:05:20.

inauguration. It highlights the importance that she and Number 10

:05:21.:05:24.

place on establishing a strong relationship with Mr Trump. I think

:05:25.:05:28.

as you were pointing out, that meeting between her aides and Mr

:05:29.:05:32.

Trump's top team might have been a bit awkward. Her two chiefs of staff

:05:33.:05:38.

had both previously publicly criticise Mr Trump, one said Donald

:05:39.:05:43.

Trump is a chump, one claimed American politics was depressing

:05:44.:05:48.

enough before Trump took office. Clearly a bit of building of bridges

:05:49.:05:52.

hasn't gone amiss. Eleanor Garnier, thank you.

:05:53.:05:54.

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a Michael Fish

:05:55.:05:58.

moment for economists, the Bank of England's chief

:05:59.:06:00.

Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously

:06:01.:06:03.

inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead

:06:04.:06:05.

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

:06:06.:06:10.

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:06:11.:06:16.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three days

:06:17.:06:20.

of strike action on the Southern Rail network next week.

:06:21.:06:23.

That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

:06:24.:06:25.

claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

:06:26.:06:27.

A lack of funding to improve forensic science is jeopardising

:06:28.:06:43.

the integrity of the criminal justice system in England and Wales,

:06:44.:06:46.

The Forensic Science Regulator says it's also concerned

:06:47.:06:49.

about the processing of DNA samples taken from suspects

:06:50.:06:52.

The National Police Chiefs Council says it has secured extra funding

:06:53.:06:56.

to respond to the challenges faced by the service.

:06:57.:07:17.

Delays in discharging patients in the NHS in England have become

:07:18.:07:20.

significantly worse in mental health trusts than in acute hospitals,

:07:21.:07:23.

There's been an increase of 60% in the number of beds

:07:24.:07:27.

occupied by patients who are well enough to leave but have nowhere

:07:28.:07:30.

Ministers say they will be spending ?400 million over the next four

:07:31.:07:35.

years, to ensure mental health teams can provide support to people

:07:36.:07:38.

Oliver Lang helps his father run a small Post Office in Norfolk.

:07:39.:07:44.

was detained under the Mental Health Act.

:07:45.:07:46.

He spent several weeks in a psychiatric unit but even

:07:47.:07:49.

when he was well enough to leave he couldn't.

:07:50.:07:52.

Delays in arranging suitable support in the community meant he spent

:07:53.:07:55.

a further two months unnecessarily in hospital.

:07:56.:07:56.

I just felt like I was in danger in there because a lot happens

:07:57.:08:00.

in hospital and I felt like if someone attacked me

:08:01.:08:03.

I would have to defend myself, but if I did defend myself and hurt

:08:04.:08:07.

someone then they'd say I was a danger to the public

:08:08.:08:10.

still and they would keep me locked up for longer,

:08:11.:08:13.

so I was trying to be whiter than white.

:08:14.:08:15.

The latest figures show more than 200,000 bed days were lost

:08:16.:08:18.

in the NHS in England as a whole in October 2016 due

:08:19.:08:21.

For NHS trusts specialising in physical healthcare,

:08:22.:08:24.

that represented a 30% rise on the previous 12 months.

:08:25.:08:27.

But for those trusts most closely focused on mental health

:08:28.:08:30.

and learning disabilities, the increase was 56%.

:08:31.:08:31.

The analysis was carried out for this former care minister

:08:32.:08:34.

who says the figures show that mental health patients

:08:35.:08:37.

It means there's a shortage of community psychiatric nurses,

:08:38.:08:41.

a shortage of support services like detox facilities and a shortage

:08:42.:08:44.

in social care, which I think has hit people with mental

:08:45.:08:47.

Ministers say they're spending ?400 million over the next four years

:08:48.:08:58.

to ensure mental health teams can provide more support to people

:08:59.:09:01.

Four people are due to appear in court in Chicago later today

:09:02.:09:12.

charged with hate crimes over footage streamed live on Facebook.

:09:13.:09:15.

The four suspects are accused of assaulting

:09:16.:09:17.

and racially taunting a white man with special needs.

:09:18.:09:19.

Police believe the victim may have been kidnapped up to 48

:09:20.:09:22.

The funeral will take place today of the man who was shot dead

:09:23.:09:27.

28-year-old Yassar Yaqub died after officers stopped a car

:09:28.:09:31.

he was in on a motorway slip road near Huddersfield.

:09:32.:09:34.

A man arrested as part of the police operation will appear in court later

:09:35.:09:38.

The actor Om Puri, who starred in the British comedy East is East,

:09:39.:09:50.

He was 66 and is reported to have had a heart attack.

:09:51.:09:54.

Om Puri was awarded an honorary OBE for his contribution to the British

:09:55.:09:58.

William Lindesay has been obsessed with the Great Wall of China

:09:59.:10:07.

since seeing it in a school atlas as a child in England.

:10:08.:10:11.

And last year he embarked on an epic journey,

:10:12.:10:13.

leaving his home on Merseyside, to fulfil a lifelong ambition

:10:14.:10:16.

to film the wall in its entirety from the air, using a drone.

:10:17.:10:19.

His travels have taken him all over north China and even to Mongolia.

:10:20.:10:31.

A baby elephant in Thailand has been forced to overcome her fear of water

:10:32.:10:35.

by learning to walk again using hydrotherapy.

:10:36.:10:37.

Meet five-month-old Fah Jam, who lost part of her foot in a trap

:10:38.:10:40.

She'll need up to three months of treatment to help strengthen

:10:41.:10:44.

the muscles in her leg, but her vet says she's already

:10:45.:10:47.

Despite most elephants loving the water,

:10:48.:10:50.

Fah Jam was a little nervous going into the water.

:10:51.:11:00.

Sort of holding her in a harness while she gets confidence in the

:11:01.:11:04.

water. How cute. Those are the main

:11:05.:11:06.

stories this morning. All the sport and weather coming up

:11:07.:11:09.

for you shortly. It's a time of year when darker days

:11:10.:11:12.

and financial pressures can cause anxiety and depression for some

:11:13.:11:16.

people, and it's over the winter months that health professionals say

:11:17.:11:19.

they see an increase One type of support that's on offer

:11:20.:11:21.

is internet-based therapy that involves chatting to someone

:11:22.:11:25.

and getting advice online. Breakfast's Graham Satchell has been

:11:26.:11:27.

to meet one man who's benefited from this way of

:11:28.:11:31.

treating depression. Not a time of year

:11:32.:11:36.

that I enjoy at all. When I'm expected to be happy,

:11:37.:11:42.

I'm supposed to be, Christmas and New Year

:11:43.:11:46.

are difficult times for Nick. He's lived with anxiety

:11:47.:11:55.

and depression for many years. Have been since I found

:11:56.:11:57.

out it was happening. My natural instinct

:11:58.:12:04.

is to worry about everything. I'm constantly thinking

:12:05.:12:07.

and analysing everything I struggle to make decisions, some

:12:08.:12:12.

of them really simple decisions. What I'm going to have

:12:13.:12:20.

supper, for example. I can spend an awful long time

:12:21.:12:22.

in the supermarket just trying She offered him a series

:12:23.:12:25.

of online therapy sessions. It's a typed conversation

:12:26.:12:32.

with a trained therapist You write something,

:12:33.:12:37.

how you're feeling, and there's a pause

:12:38.:12:45.

while the other person, your therapist,

:12:46.:12:51.

is waiting to respond. And just writing something down,

:12:52.:12:52.

which I'd never done before and I was scared to do it,

:12:53.:12:55.

I found it was a safe way It had quite a profound effect

:12:56.:12:59.

actually for me personally. As well as the convenience

:13:00.:13:03.

of this kind of therapy, advocates say doing it helps

:13:04.:13:06.

some people to open up. I found it really liberating

:13:07.:13:10.

in a way that I was not expecting. I shared some pretty

:13:11.:13:13.

challenging things, It's surprisingly how much more

:13:14.:13:15.

information the patient has been Online therapy on the NHS

:13:16.:13:23.

is normally delivered by private Critics say it's just a cheap way

:13:24.:13:28.

of providing a service that

:13:29.:13:35.

should be face-to-face. But the therapists who do it say

:13:36.:13:37.

the success rate is the same, When you put a computer

:13:38.:13:40.

between an experienced therapist and patient, all sorts

:13:41.:13:44.

of things can happen. Usually, in my experience,

:13:45.:13:51.

those problem statements, the first thing they say

:13:52.:13:56.

to their therapists, But here we see it occurring right

:13:57.:13:58.

there in the first session. And that's really important,

:13:59.:14:07.

because once you know what the problem is,

:14:08.:14:09.

you can start the treatment. Talking to a therapist online

:14:10.:14:12.

won't work for everyone, I was really struggling to cope

:14:13.:14:14.

with what I was thinking, That was Nick Martin speaking

:14:15.:14:21.

to Breakfast's Graham Satchell. Jenny Edwards is the Chief Executive

:14:22.:14:32.

of the Mental Health Foundation of the things I was surprised by

:14:33.:14:44.

that came out of that in a digital session, what they were saving was

:14:45.:14:48.

it got to the crux of the problem sometimes much quicker. Have you

:14:49.:14:53.

seen that as well? Yes, it is, and the benefit if it helps people have

:14:54.:14:58.

choice. For some people this will be much easier. What we find is men are

:14:59.:15:03.

more likely to come forward for something online than they are face

:15:04.:15:07.

to face. We know that men are weighed less likely to complete a

:15:08.:15:13.

normal course of therapy than women. They find this much easier. So you

:15:14.:15:18.

need to offer people choice because we are all different. This will be

:15:19.:15:25.

the natural way to get help. What is the difference between getting an

:15:26.:15:28.

Internet appointment like this as opposed to seeing someone, is it a

:15:29.:15:33.

difference in terms of how soon it will happen? In some areas, waiting

:15:34.:15:37.

times for face-to-face support can be extremely long, and so to step in

:15:38.:15:46.

early and prevent problems become serious, opportunities like online,

:15:47.:15:52.

or guided self-help, which needs no therapist, can be helpful for mild

:15:53.:15:56.

to moderate forms of ill-health. I am sure there are lots of ways to do

:15:57.:16:01.

this, because you talk to people online, for example, on a helpdesk,

:16:02.:16:06.

and it is obvious they are talking to lots of people. If you are having

:16:07.:16:11.

this session, is it just the therapist communicating with one

:16:12.:16:16.

person? Yes, in this type of online support it would very much be

:16:17.:16:20.

focused on view. They need to be very closely listening to what you

:16:21.:16:24.

say. What about confidentiality, because we talk all the time about

:16:25.:16:29.

privacy and information, you know, you are typing it into a computer,

:16:30.:16:34.

how can you be sure it is going to stay there? It is important to take

:16:35.:16:38.

the steps to make sure what is on offer to people is properly tested

:16:39.:16:43.

and regulated and recommended through health bodies. There is a

:16:44.:16:48.

huge hunger for people to look after their health online. About a fifth

:16:49.:16:54.

of apps available are about health and a certain proportion on mental

:16:55.:16:58.

health. It is the wild west. We need the government to step up to those

:16:59.:17:04.

who have picked it up in a big way, like in Australia and Europe, the

:17:05.:17:09.

Netherlands, we are working on a project with other European

:17:10.:17:12.

countries doing much better. What standards should be set, what are

:17:13.:17:16.

the types of online support that ought to be available? Alongside all

:17:17.:17:25.

of that advice, you have to be sure the person is legitimate.

:17:26.:17:30.

Absolutely. You can't just put it into an Internet search asking for

:17:31.:17:34.

someone to chat to for help with mental issues. No, there are things

:17:35.:17:38.

that can happen through peer support. Through properly set up

:17:39.:17:43.

websites, there are some that are very well known, like Big White

:17:44.:17:49.

Wall, that we know are properly set up. The peer support workers have

:17:50.:17:54.

been trained. You know that, but how can someone seeking help know who is

:17:55.:18:00.

legitimate? At the moment, there are a few recommended sites on the NHS

:18:01.:18:05.

online, but we really need to step up in a big way. If you look at

:18:06.:18:09.

other countries, they have a range of things that people can have faith

:18:10.:18:14.

in and that they know are properly trained and monitored. Just don't

:18:15.:18:21.

trust anybody out there. Yes, and for people feeling, you know, it is

:18:22.:18:25.

a particular time of year that people feel low as well, so what is

:18:26.:18:31.

the first stop? The first stop for anyone going through at half-time is

:18:32.:18:37.

to talk to someone they trust, often family members and close friends who

:18:38.:18:43.

came provide support. There is a lot of online guidance for people who

:18:44.:18:46.

might support a family or friend. That is how most of us get through

:18:47.:18:56.

top -- a things. Go to your GP if it is beyond that and they can

:18:57.:18:59.

recommend you to online counselling or the more conventional forms of

:19:00.:19:04.

support. And as I say, in some areas of the country, even in the news

:19:05.:19:08.

today, we know the waiting lists are enormous and, of course, then it

:19:09.:19:12.

doesn't help people with intense problems because they are in a queue

:19:13.:19:15.

with everybody else. Thank you very much. It was really cold yesterday

:19:16.:19:28.

and again today. Yes, it is cold for some. Not as many as yesterday. If

:19:29.:19:34.

we look at the temperatures from yesterday, widely below freezing, -8

:19:35.:19:40.

in Oxfordshire. Around Oxfordshire and East Anglia there is frost.

:19:41.:19:45.

Elsewhere, temperatures are above freezing, especially Northern

:19:46.:19:48.

Ireland, 15 degrees higher than 24 hours ago. There is a price to pay,

:19:49.:19:54.

we swap frost with rain. Especially in Northern Ireland. We have

:19:55.:20:00.

Atlantic air pushing in. It is less chilly. With it some weather fronts

:20:01.:20:04.

producing rain for Northern Ireland. It will ease off in the west. It is

:20:05.:20:09.

particularly wet to the south-west Scotland. Further north it is dry.

:20:10.:20:15.

Some drizzle to the west. To the east it will be dry and bright to

:20:16.:20:19.

start. It will be dry all day. Frost in the east of the Pennines.

:20:20.:20:23.

Temperatures left quickly as the cloud spills in. Rain and resort in

:20:24.:20:29.

Northumberland. The breeze is picking up here and clouding over

:20:30.:20:33.

for Devon and Cornwall. The south-east and East Anglia, this is

:20:34.:20:38.

where we have frost. Some patches of freezing fog. The aware if you are

:20:39.:20:42.

about to hit the roads. The fault will lift as the breeze picks up and

:20:43.:20:46.

most will stay dry with sunny spells. Not the blue skies of

:20:47.:20:51.

yesterday. Elsewhere, multiplied around, parts of the west of the

:20:52.:20:55.

Pennines and the north and west of Wales have cloud around. A big

:20:56.:20:59.

contrast to the afternoon, for degrees in Norwich, 11 in Belfast.

:21:00.:21:04.

It will be cool in the south-east but as reigning spills in in the

:21:05.:21:09.

evening temperatures left even more. -- as though rain spills in.

:21:10.:21:12.

Temperatures in double figures to start tomorrow morning. Clear skies

:21:13.:21:19.

across northern Scotland leading to widespread frost in the Highlands to

:21:20.:21:22.

take us into the start of the weekend. A frosty start but at least

:21:23.:21:27.

there is sunshine around. Not much sunshine elsewhere. It is a grey

:21:28.:21:31.

start to the weekend. The odd patch of rain or drizzle in Southern

:21:32.:21:35.

counties around the English Channel. Many will be dry. It will be

:21:36.:21:39.

brightest in north-east Scotland with five or six degrees, 11 or 12

:21:40.:21:45.

in the south. On Sunday, sunny conditions for eastern Scotland and

:21:46.:21:48.

north-east England. Cloud elsewhere, brightness here and there but sports

:21:49.:21:54.

or drizzle. Temperatures at best around 10 or 11, much more mild than

:21:55.:21:59.

at the moment and much more mild and south-east Europe, where some will

:22:00.:22:04.

have highs of around - 12. -12? My goodness. Thank you. Let's take you

:22:05.:22:11.

through some of the front pages. Lots of interest in this, economics

:22:12.:22:19.

in crisis. The chief economist of the Bank of England says they failed

:22:20.:22:25.

to foresee the 2008 financial crash and subsequently misjudging the

:22:26.:22:29.

impact of the Brexit vote. The front of the Mail talking about Whitehall

:22:30.:22:36.

and they say that Whitehall diplomats face unsustainable

:22:37.:22:38.

pressure facing the vote to leave the EU and they are asking for more

:22:39.:22:46.

money. Lots of the papers talking about Jill Saward, 51, campaigner

:22:47.:22:52.

for fellow victims of sexual assault, referred to as the Ealing

:22:53.:22:55.

vicarage rape victim, who died yesterday. They are talking about

:22:56.:23:01.

what a disgrace that she didn't receive an honour. She really

:23:02.:23:07.

changed things. Absolutely. The Daily Telegraph, the image that you

:23:08.:23:11.

can see, we are about to get a new First Lady in a week's time, this is

:23:12.:23:20.

an image of Natalie Portman in the film Jackie about Jackie Kennedy.

:23:21.:23:25.

And the story about Brexit dominating the front of the

:23:26.:23:27.

Telegraph. Jill Saward making the front of the Times. Her bravery

:23:28.:23:33.

helped change the law and talking about wrecks it as well. Shall we

:23:34.:23:43.

look at the inside papers? Well, yes, captured people's imaginations,

:23:44.:23:47.

can you go to the supermarket in your dressing gown and PJs? It has

:23:48.:23:55.

caused a row in Tesco after ladies when shopping in their dressing

:23:56.:24:00.

down. I mentioned I wouldn't go to a supermarket but one morning in

:24:01.:24:03.

winter I got a onesie for Christmas, I put it on because I was cold, I

:24:04.:24:08.

made a cup of tea, I ran out of milk, the shop was 50 yards away, it

:24:09.:24:12.

was dark... Stop justifying it, let's have a look. This is a video

:24:13.:24:18.

argued for a friend's wedding, it is the same onesie that are used to go

:24:19.:24:23.

to the shop. No one saw me, it was dark, 50 yards, I got a pint of

:24:24.:24:29.

milk, the lady didn't even link, she thought, oh, it is just Mike, and no

:24:30.:24:34.

one knew anything about it until today. No one minds what you wear,

:24:35.:24:42.

although I wouldn't go to a big supermarket. If anyone had seen you

:24:43.:24:48.

that morning, it was dark, you were in a false suit, anyone driving

:24:49.:24:51.

would have had a fright. Those foxes are getting big. Urban foxes,

:24:52.:24:56.

exactly. They are very clever these days. Tesco says store managers have

:24:57.:25:03.

permission to eject customers if they are wearing pyjamas, so, you

:25:04.:25:08.

know, Mike... So long as you were something, it is OK. I think that is

:25:09.:25:14.

the point. Where is the harm? People can get offended by it, but I can't,

:25:15.:25:19.

even though I wouldn't go anywhere else. Are you coming back to do the

:25:20.:25:24.

sport? I hope so, if I am allowed, not wearing a onesie, of course. We

:25:25.:25:30.

are looking at some fantastic things now.

:25:31.:25:31.

From small boat-builders to glamorous super yachts,

:25:32.:25:33.

business is booming for the UK's leisure boating industry.

:25:34.:25:35.

Figures out today show that its grown for the fifth year

:25:36.:25:38.

Coletta's finding her sea legs at the London Boat Show for us.

:25:39.:25:42.

Look at those. These are the super yachts? They are indeed and we are

:25:43.:25:53.

looking at the very high end of the industry, correct. Good morning.

:25:54.:25:57.

Welcome back to the London Boat Show. The boating industry, leisure

:25:58.:26:03.

boats in the UK, it is an industry worth ?3 billion and it has grown in

:26:04.:26:10.

recent years. We are third in the world when it comes to the number of

:26:11.:26:16.

companies. This one here, Sunseeker, employ 2000 people, so it is a

:26:17.:26:20.

significant industry. This superyacht would set you back ?6

:26:21.:26:25.

million, apparently, so if you have money to throw around, spend your

:26:26.:26:31.

summer holidays on this. Most of them are small boat builders, 80%,

:26:32.:26:38.

in fact, and we are now finding Pheobe at the whole of another boat.

:26:39.:26:42.

It is an expensive industry, but more people are spending on boats,

:26:43.:26:47.

not buying them, but taking holidays on them. You can buy a timeshare in

:26:48.:26:52.

a small boat for a couple of thousand pounds, which gets you a

:26:53.:26:56.

couple of weeks per year. You can rent something in France or the UK

:26:57.:27:02.

for a about ?600 per week. It isn't bad for a self catering family

:27:03.:27:07.

holiday. ?6 million is steep for many and I think you could fit a few

:27:08.:27:12.

houses in this superyacht. This is the biggest on show. People are

:27:13.:27:15.

looking for water-based holidays and experiences they can remember. Thank

:27:16.:27:20.

you. Yes, you would have to save up for a while to be able to afford

:27:21.:27:29.

this. It looks amazing to be on. I am not going to own it.

:27:30.:27:33.

I would never want to own one of those. I wanted to go down and have

:27:34.:27:40.

a look what it is like, see what the galley is like. Is that what it is

:27:41.:27:45.

called? It looks lovely, but... We will be back there later.

:27:46.:31:09.

Hello, this is Breakfast with Louise Minchin

:31:10.:31:11.

The US President-elect, Donald Trump, is due to meet

:31:12.:31:18.

intelligence chiefs today, to discuss claims that Russia tried

:31:19.:31:20.

to interfere in the American presidential election.

:31:21.:31:22.

He's faced criticism from both Republicans and Democrats

:31:23.:31:24.

about his approach to the allegations, and less

:31:25.:31:26.

than 24 hours before the meeting, one of his top intelligence advisers

:31:27.:31:30.

Theresa May is due to hold her first meeting with Donald Trump,

:31:31.:31:39.

It's emerged that two of the Prime Minister's closest

:31:40.:31:43.

aides went to Washington in December to hold discussions

:31:44.:31:46.

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a 'Michael Fish'

:31:47.:31:55.

moment for economists, the Bank of England's chief

:31:56.:31:57.

Andy Haldane compared financial forecasts to the famously

:31:58.:32:00.

inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC weatherman ahead

:32:01.:32:03.

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis",

:32:04.:32:07.

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:32:08.:32:28.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three days

:32:29.:32:31.

of strike action on the Southern Rail network next week.

:32:32.:32:34.

That's despite a report by the independent rail regulator

:32:35.:32:36.

claiming that trains with driver-operated doors,

:32:37.:32:39.

The Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling, says the strikes

:32:40.:32:44.

Delays in discharging patients in the NHS in England have become

:32:45.:32:53.

significantly worse in mental health trusts than in acute hospitals,

:32:54.:32:56.

There's been an increase of 60% in the number of beds

:32:57.:33:00.

occupied by patients who are well enough to leave but have nowhere

:33:01.:33:04.

Ministers say they will be spending ?400 million over the next four

:33:05.:33:08.

years to ensure mental health teams can provide support to people

:33:09.:33:11.

Four people are due to appear in court in Chicago later today

:33:12.:33:16.

charged with hate crimes over footage streamed live on Facebook.

:33:17.:33:18.

The four suspects are accused of assaulting

:33:19.:33:20.

and racially taunting a white man with special needs.

:33:21.:33:23.

Police believe the victim may have been kidnapped up to 48

:33:24.:33:26.

The actor Om Puri, who starred in the British comedy East is East,

:33:27.:33:38.

He was 66 and is reported to have had a heart attack.

:33:39.:33:42.

Om Puri was awarded an honorary OBE for his contribution to the British

:33:43.:33:46.

It's said to be one of the only landmarks that can be

:33:47.:34:03.

Now one man has found a new way to view the Great Wall of China

:34:04.:34:08.

William Lindesay has been dreaming of visiting it since he saw

:34:09.:34:12.

it in a school atlas when he was a child.

:34:13.:34:14.

Now he's travelled from Merseyside to China to capture these stunning

:34:15.:34:17.

Matt will have the weather in around ten minutes.

:34:18.:34:23.

Right now, Mike is here with all the sport. It's one of my favourite

:34:24.:34:28.

weekends of the sporting calendar, the third round of the FA Cup where

:34:29.:34:31.

you get the minnows, Stourbridge, Barrow sharing the headlines with

:34:32.:34:34.

Manchester City and West Ham, kicking it all off tonight. Pep

:34:35.:34:41.

Guardiola has won everything, he's one of the most famous managers in

:34:42.:34:45.

the world, but he's never had a taste of the FA Cup but it gets

:34:46.:34:47.

under way tonight. The first match of the weekend

:34:48.:34:48.

is an all Premier League tie at the London Stadium where West Ham

:34:49.:34:52.

host Manchester City. Guardiola has achieved

:34:53.:34:55.

many things in the game already but he's never been

:34:56.:34:56.

involved in an FA Cup tie. What I hear before, the cup

:34:57.:35:00.

is special because the lower teams But of course it' a Premier League

:35:01.:35:03.

hame, it is tough, it will be luck A big game for us and a big game

:35:04.:35:28.

for them, the FA Cup. It is for the fans of course

:35:29.:35:32.

and I am sure they will put a very strong team tomorrow,

:35:33.:35:37.

because it's a big chance for them That matches live on BBC One this

:35:38.:35:39.

evening. Hull City have appointed

:35:40.:35:49.

the former Sporting Lisbon and Olympiakos Coach Marco Silva

:35:50.:35:51.

as their new manager as they attempt to avoid relegation

:35:52.:35:54.

from the Premier League. The 39-year-old Portuguese,

:35:55.:35:56.

who's nicknamed the 'mini Mourinho', has signed a contract

:35:57.:35:58.

until the end of the season. He led Olympiakos to

:35:59.:36:01.

the Greek title last season. Hull are currently

:36:02.:36:04.

bottom of the table. Leicester midfielder Riyad Mahrez

:36:05.:36:11.

has won the 2016 African Player The Algerian helped his club side

:36:12.:36:14.

to the Premier League title last Johanna Konta has been beaten this

:36:15.:36:18.

morning in the semi-finals She lost in three sets

:36:19.:36:35.

to Katerina Siniakova. But Sir Andy Murray marches on,

:36:36.:36:39.

he's through to the Qatar Open semi-finals after beating

:36:40.:36:42.

Spain's Nicolas Almagro But the Briton didn't have things

:36:43.:36:44.

all his own way in Doha. The first set went to a tie-break

:36:45.:36:48.

which Murray won 7-6. It was almost as tight

:36:49.:36:51.

in the second, but at 5-5, the world number one

:36:52.:36:54.

broke his opponent and served Castleford Tigers will claim

:36:55.:36:57.

they should receive half a million in compensation after winger

:36:58.:37:01.

Denny Solomona left the club and swopped codes, joining

:37:02.:37:04.

rugby union side Sale. The BBC has seen court papers,

:37:05.:37:06.

which claim Sale had been interested in the player

:37:07.:37:09.

moving since last summer and that they knew he was under

:37:10.:37:11.

contract with Castleford Sale deny that they,

:37:12.:37:15.

the player or his agent have

:37:16.:37:21.

done anything wrong. It's understood the legal claim

:37:22.:37:22.

was issued in court last month. We remember him paddling his way

:37:23.:37:46.

down the rapids to medals in the summer, but now

:37:47.:37:49.

the British Olympic canoeing star Richard Hounslow has

:37:50.:37:51.

retired from the sport. He's 35, and won two silver medals

:37:52.:37:53.

in the canoe double, with partner David Florence

:37:54.:37:56.

at London 2012 and Rio 2016. Hounslow, seen here on the right,

:37:57.:37:59.

said it had been a 'true honour' to represent his country

:38:00.:38:02.

at the highest level. He said he loved doing it but he

:38:03.:38:09.

didn't like going under and doing the Eskimo roll to get out. It is

:38:10.:38:15.

like Rovers. The early mornings. There's only so much pain you can

:38:16.:38:22.

take -- rowers. He has done it at two Olympic Games. How he can watch

:38:23.:38:32.

his beloved Spurs. You can think of a lineup going to join the Jump but

:38:33.:38:37.

he isn't one of them, unlike Kadina Cox.

:38:38.:38:38.

He's been dubbed Britain's grumpiest shopkeeper after charging customers

:38:39.:38:41.

50p to browse his secondhand book store.

:38:42.:38:43.

But with small retailers facing huge competition

:38:44.:38:45.

from high street giants and internet shopping,

:38:46.:38:47.

you might think that Steve Bloom is making a brave stand.

:38:48.:38:54.

Fiona Trott has been to meet him.

:38:55.:38:58.

A charming market town nestled in the Yorkshire Dales. Halls isn't

:38:59.:39:05.

supposed to court controversy but beyond these door is a bookshop and

:39:06.:39:12.

browsers are in for a surprise. Have you bought anything in before? We

:39:13.:39:16.

came here about five years ago. I tell you how it works, 50p to come

:39:17.:39:22.

in and then between you or each and if you buy something you get it

:39:23.:39:26.

back. Not everyone likes it and certain words have been exchanged

:39:27.:39:30.

which you won't find in any of these books. It's my shop, it's my little

:39:31.:39:36.

world, this is my little world. I run it. I'm comfortable with feeling

:39:37.:39:40.

people that come in appreciate it and I do feel it's my right. People

:39:41.:39:45.

who say to me you shouldn't be doing this, well, you get charged all the

:39:46.:39:49.

time for all sorts of things. If there's a book fair, a craft fair, a

:39:50.:39:56.

car park, toilets, it's not so ridiculous as people say it is. But

:39:57.:40:01.

the parish council says it is embarrassed and it's received over

:40:02.:40:06.

20 complaints. When people are an aware of the cha cha cha alleged by

:40:07.:40:10.

him to pay it he then sets of being rude and offensive. -- unaware of

:40:11.:40:19.

the charge asked by him. The damage to us in a wider world is quite

:40:20.:40:24.

considerable. It is run by trustees and they say his management style

:40:25.:40:32.

doesn't constitute a public nuisance. In the meantime Steve has

:40:33.:40:37.

agreed to put up a sign to tell customers what to expect.

:40:38.:40:42.

Did you see the book? It was called tact and skill in handling people.

:40:43.:40:51.

It's interesting the reactions, when he explains what he's doing, he says

:40:52.:40:56.

it is my shop, if I want to do that then I will, quite a few people

:40:57.:41:00.

getting in touch, the difference is maybe he's not that worried about

:41:01.:41:04.

making that much money. If your goal is to make money then that is

:41:05.:41:07.

counter-productive because people might be deterred from getting in.

:41:08.:41:17.

People have been getting in touch, some people say why not if he wants

:41:18.:41:23.

to. Janet says as a prolific reader, you don't make much profit out of

:41:24.:41:26.

secondhand books, you want your customers to be serious readers and

:41:27.:41:28.

not just coming out of the cold. Mandy Vere understands

:41:29.:41:30.

the difficulties of being an independent retailer,

:41:31.:41:33.

she works for a small book shop in Liverpool and joins us now,

:41:34.:41:35.

along with retail analyst Good morning to you both. Mandy,

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what do you make of it? The thing about independent bookshops is we

:41:47.:41:49.

are all different, that's what makes us independent and that is what

:41:50.:41:54.

people love, we have different stock, we have different ethics,

:41:55.:41:59.

different ambience and this guy is one of the great British eccentric

:42:00.:42:04.

booksellers, of which there is a great tradition. -- different

:42:05.:42:12.

ambiences. People love the literature we have in the shop

:42:13.:42:17.

because it is chosen very specially. In your shop the notion of charging

:42:18.:42:23.

to come in, is it a complete no-no? We don't do that. We are about

:42:24.:42:28.

trying to attract people in by having something different about us.

:42:29.:42:33.

We are totally different from an online bookseller because we've

:42:34.:42:36.

chosen our stock and people will find things they never knew existed.

:42:37.:42:40.

We've got a little kettle in the corner where you can make a cup of

:42:41.:42:45.

tea for 50p. We have a toy box in the kids area. People love us when

:42:46.:42:51.

they find us. Catherine, I'm interested if there's a change here,

:42:52.:42:55.

we hear stories of people going into perhaps not bookshops but maybe it

:42:56.:43:00.

happens in bookshops, trying on clothes thinking that's lovely and

:43:01.:43:04.

they get it cheaper elsewhere, does that happen elsewhere? It's the idea

:43:05.:43:11.

of showroom in. We look somewhere and then we go and buy online. --

:43:12.:43:17.

show rooming. When they are in the shop they go to the smart phone and

:43:18.:43:22.

buy it at home. They try it on and then they read the book and they go

:43:23.:43:26.

home and buy it. There's a strong feeling from a lot of retailers that

:43:27.:43:30.

they need to fight back and maybe this is what the gentleman is doing

:43:31.:43:34.

but it's a tough time for an independent retailer. Business rates

:43:35.:43:38.

are about to increase, every single penny counts and there is a

:43:39.:43:48.

frustration when people use you as a showroom and they don't spend any

:43:49.:43:52.

money with you so I have a lot of sympathy with him. Shopping when you

:43:53.:43:56.

analyse it is confusing because a shop like that, which is secondhand

:43:57.:43:58.

books, you're not necessarily going in to buy something. You might or

:43:59.:44:04.

you might not. That has to be the principal, doesn't it? Most people

:44:05.:44:08.

don't go out into account in the morning expecting to buy a book

:44:09.:44:12.

unless it is Christmas or a special time. I think what happens is people

:44:13.:44:18.

get drawn in because of your window display and because they've heard

:44:19.:44:21.

something about the bookshop and they are interested and they want to

:44:22.:44:24.

browse and if you've got good stock and interesting books, we've got

:44:25.:44:28.

books that are fantastic, books about change in the world and those

:44:29.:44:33.

that give an alternative view on the world and we have students coming in

:44:34.:44:37.

for their textbooks and then they find something different they never

:44:38.:44:40.

knew existed and quirky in the corner. We've got T-shirts and mugs

:44:41.:44:45.

and we've expanded our range. The notion of the grumpy shopkeeper...

:44:46.:44:52.

You described it as eccentric, Catherine, people can go for that

:44:53.:44:57.

reason alone? Absolutely. There will be people queueing up today to see

:44:58.:45:02.

him, all publicity is good publicity and it's really important we have

:45:03.:45:05.

these interesting retailers and places you can go to and why not? We

:45:06.:45:10.

should have that and encourage that in the UK. Were a nation of

:45:11.:45:14.

shopkeepers after all so why shouldn't we do that? -- we're a

:45:15.:45:20.

nation. One thought from Janet, he is alienating so many customers and

:45:21.:45:25.

I wouldn't pay 50p for a book browse. Alicia, encouraging people

:45:26.:45:30.

into a shop and not even putting them off before they have step in

:45:31.:45:33.

the door. Good morning. Cold and frosty. Yes,

:45:34.:45:43.

only for some. A day of contrast. For some the familiar frosty start.

:45:44.:45:49.

For others we swap the frost for some rain. Much more mild across

:45:50.:45:53.

other parts of the country. We split the UK into two. At the moment, in

:45:54.:45:59.

the south-east, -6. 15 degrees warmer in Northern Ireland. 15

:46:00.:46:04.

degrees warmer in County Down than it was yesterday. It is less cold

:46:05.:46:09.

mild air pushing in that will be with us through the weekend. Cold

:46:10.:46:14.

air will be in Eastern Europe, some only get two -12 in the afternoon.

:46:15.:46:20.

That is cold. It is still chilly out there. To go with the frost there

:46:21.:46:25.

will be sunshine and patches of freezing fog. Be wary of that if you

:46:26.:46:32.

are heading onto the roads. Clouding over for the rest of England and

:46:33.:46:35.

Wales. It is breezy across Anglesey. Outbreaks of rain. Patti ad-free for

:46:36.:46:40.

the rest of northern England. Eastern areas has frost,

:46:41.:46:43.

temperatures already starting to rise. South-west of Scotland, we

:46:44.:46:52.

have had rain from Northern Ireland, that will ease off over the next

:46:53.:46:56.

couple of hours. The rest of the day will be grey and gloomy. The rain is

:46:57.:47:01.

more hit and miss. A wet day in the south of Scotland, wet in northern

:47:02.:47:04.

England, Wales and the Midlands. North of Scotland might be dry with

:47:05.:47:09.

sunshine. Sunshine as well to the south-east will continue. Not as

:47:10.:47:13.

quite blue skies as yesterday. Five degrees in Norwich, 11 in Belfast.

:47:14.:47:19.

Temperate contrast continues. Through the evening into tonight the

:47:20.:47:22.

rain this evening for East Anglia and the south-east eventually

:47:23.:47:26.

introduces mild air to leave a damp night, misty in the west. For most

:47:27.:47:32.

frost free with the exemption in the north. We could see frost here and

:47:33.:47:38.

the brightest conditions for the weekend. A lot of dry weather a

:47:39.:47:42.

round over the weekend, although it will be damp for southern areas. The

:47:43.:47:48.

odd spot of light rain or drizzle from excessive amounts of cloud

:47:49.:47:51.

through Saturday. It will be misty over the hills in the west. Parts of

:47:52.:47:55.

Scotland has sunshine. Cool conditions at five or six degrees

:47:56.:48:00.

can head to 10 or 11 further south. We do it all again into Sunday with

:48:01.:48:04.

more sunshine for eastern England. Certainly to the east of Scotland.

:48:05.:48:10.

Lots of cloud elsewhere. The odd spot of rain or drizzle.

:48:11.:48:12.

Temperatures above where they should be for the time of year. A big

:48:13.:48:18.

change on yesterday but the downside is we have lost the blue skies and

:48:19.:48:22.

we have the cloud. Thank you very much. See you later.

:48:23.:48:26.

We are going to go on boards on boats now, some yachts, some of them

:48:27.:48:32.

ARI Spencer, some of them are not expensive.

:48:33.:48:34.

The UK's leisure boating industry has grown for the fifth year

:48:35.:48:37.

in a row, according to figures out today. We've sent Coletta to make

:48:38.:48:40.

herself comfortable on the super-yachts

:48:41.:48:42.

It looks like a lovely one, this one. Morning. It is lovely indeed,

:48:43.:48:48.

yes. Welcome back. This is the London Boat Show looking at the UK

:48:49.:48:56.

leisure boat industry and it is also about a small boats, 80% of the

:48:57.:49:00.

industry is small boat and Sharon is part of the group. It has been a

:49:01.:49:05.

difficult couple of years and things are looking good? Yes, a tough

:49:06.:49:08.

couple of years but we have gone into the New Year feeling positive,

:49:09.:49:12.

with a couple of orders on order, which is really good. My husband is

:49:13.:49:17.

in Chicago next week with a coaster for the very first time and it is

:49:18.:49:22.

the big year. We are 50 years old, so it is a big celebration. And how

:49:23.:49:27.

many people fit in those boats that you are making? From four people

:49:28.:49:36.

opted -- up to 12 people, and lots of people can use them, we cater for

:49:37.:49:43.

everyone. Is the weak pound helping sell boats are brought? It has

:49:44.:49:50.

helped us, yes, and we don't just build boats, we do all of the

:49:51.:49:55.

accessories. That has helped us with Americans, they have ordered a lot

:49:56.:50:00.

of spares and accessories, which has been a bonus. Thank you for chatting

:50:01.:50:05.

to us. I am going to let you have a look inside this one. This is the

:50:06.:50:11.

biggest in the whole show. This is what ?6 million will buy you. It is

:50:12.:50:16.

excessively swanky. You said we would maybe have to save up for a

:50:17.:50:20.

while for this one. You probably would. If we can come through the

:50:21.:50:26.

sitting area we will find the master bedroom at the back. And in here,

:50:27.:50:31.

the man in charge of the company, Sunseekers, is Phil, and we are not

:50:32.:50:39.

sailing anywhere? It is a fantastic master suite. Down to the dressing

:50:40.:50:44.

area and the bathroom underneath, which is unique. Give have to be a

:50:45.:50:49.

millionaire or a billionaire to afford this, but more people are

:50:50.:50:54.

able to afford it? The world is becoming more affluent with

:50:55.:50:57.

ultrahigh net worth individuals interested in boats around the

:50:58.:51:00.

world, and we are growing in all markets, selling in 45 markets. Is

:51:01.:51:07.

it overseas that you are targeting at the moment? 95% - 98% of boats go

:51:08.:51:15.

abroad, market growth in the US at the moment, we have seen growth

:51:16.:51:20.

throughout last year, 20% up in terms of revenue. I am glad to say

:51:21.:51:23.

those orders are coming from all over the world. Would you like a

:51:24.:51:27.

little look at the downstairs floor, because another is above us, and now

:51:28.:51:35.

we can go down if you are interested in the lower floor. A couple of

:51:36.:51:43.

steps to navigate. If I had downstairs, there is some plush

:51:44.:51:47.

carpet which I didn't want to mark with my grubby shoes. This is one of

:51:48.:51:54.

the bedrooms. It has been an early start. Something about being on a

:51:55.:52:02.

boat. I might just enjoy it is a smorgasbord of delight and relax for

:52:03.:52:09.

a while. Will you ask Antell how much it cost to fill it up -- and

:52:10.:52:17.

tell. Fill it up? I will ask it. Thank you very much. That is quite

:52:18.:52:26.

special, isn't it? It isn't entirely to my taste, but there you go. We

:52:27.:52:35.

can haggle over it. We'll have more a little bit later with some

:52:36.:52:37.

surfboards as well. Absolutely. Its stones are world famous -

:52:38.:52:41.

and no-one knows exactly why its there, but now there's

:52:42.:52:44.

a theory that the sound of Stonehenge could unlock

:52:45.:52:46.

some its hidden history. One archaeologist has taken up

:52:47.:52:49.

the challenge of recreating what the acoustics of the ruins

:52:50.:52:52.

would have been like 3000 years ago - and he says it could reveal why

:52:53.:52:55.

the site was so important. Our arts correspondent

:52:56.:52:59.

David Sillito reports. People have been coming

:53:00.:53:02.

here for at least 4000-5000 years, so we're walking in

:53:03.:53:13.

the feet of history. When the wind blows,

:53:14.:53:18.

some people say they hear Thomas Hardy wrote about it

:53:19.:53:20.

in Tess Of The d'Urbervilles, and Doctor Rupert Till is convinced

:53:21.:53:24.

the sound of Stonehenge is part You hear between each

:53:25.:53:27.

beat a little echo. The problem is this is just

:53:28.:53:49.

a fragment of the sound people I met the site's historian,

:53:50.:53:52.

Susan Greening. So, this is the front

:53:53.:53:56.

door of Stonehenge we're That's right, yes, and we are coming

:53:57.:53:58.

into the central space now. It does change a little

:53:59.:54:06.

bit, doesn't it? It does, you have the feeling

:54:07.:54:18.

of being enclosed within a space. And that's with many

:54:19.:54:22.

of the stones having gone. What we're looking at today

:54:23.:54:24.

is the ruin of Stonehenge. Many stones have been

:54:25.:54:27.

taken away from the site, many have fallen down,

:54:28.:54:29.

lots have been eroded, It would've been a completely

:54:30.:54:32.

different atmosphere, wouldn't it? What this new technology

:54:33.:54:35.

offers is a possibility, a chance to, well, return back

:54:36.:54:40.

and see and also hear what this We have constructed it by rebuilding

:54:41.:54:43.

Stonehenge digitally and rebuilding the acoustics of the space

:54:44.:54:54.

as it would have been So, how different is the old sound

:54:55.:54:57.

to the sound we have today? Well, if I tap it strong now,

:54:58.:55:17.

you will hear a little bit When all of the stones are put

:55:18.:55:21.

in place, there is a much more powerful sense of enclosure,

:55:22.:55:25.

a slight reverberation, more echo, and it changes

:55:26.:55:28.

more as you walk around. And the reason he is convinced

:55:29.:55:32.

ancient people were interested in sound is because

:55:33.:55:35.

of his work on caves. Hundreds of metres underground

:55:36.:55:37.

they found ancient instruments and human marks on

:55:38.:55:39.

certain stalactites. So today

:55:40.:55:41.

it's just ruin beside a city road, a chance to say goodbye to the 21st

:55:42.:56:04.

century and experience the last I always thought they were

:56:05.:56:28.

beautiful, maybe even more so now. Eery, that's what it is.

:56:29.:56:30.

Also coming up on Breakfast this morning.

:56:31.:56:32.

It's dark, it's gritty, and it stars Tom Hardy.

:56:33.:56:34.

We'll find out what makes him so dangerous and what else to expect

:56:35.:56:44.

in Taboo, from the man behind the new BBC drama.

:56:45.:56:46.

And dramatic it is. We have bone seen it, haven't we? Absolutely.

:56:47.:00:12.

Hello, this is Breakfast, with Louise Minchin and Charlie Stayt.

:00:13.:00:19.

Donald Trump goes face to face with intelligence chiefs after weeks

:00:20.:00:21.

They'll tell the President-elect why they think Russia intervened

:00:22.:00:26.

in the US election campaign as Donald Trump faces

:00:27.:00:28.

criticism from both sides of the political divide.

:00:29.:00:33.

Good morning, it's Friday the 6th January.

:00:34.:00:54.

Taking too long to discharge patients.

:00:55.:00:59.

Psychiatric units experience worse delays than acute

:01:00.:01:02.

A call for children to be taught about terror in schools,

:01:03.:01:08.

as one former Navy boss says pupils should know the facts

:01:09.:01:12.

Good morning, I'm at the London boat show which is all about the UK

:01:13.:01:23.

leisure boat industry. From the small but perfectly formed to the

:01:24.:01:27.

absolutely join or must end of things. An industry worth ?3

:01:28.:01:28.

billion. In sport, it's one of the highlights

:01:29.:01:32.

of the sporting calendar, as the top teams enter the FA Cup,

:01:33.:01:35.

and one of the world's most successful managers,

:01:36.:01:38.

Pep Guardiola gets his first taste The real Mr and Mrs of the Strictly

:01:39.:01:40.

dance floor are taking their moves on tour, we'll speak to Kevin

:01:41.:01:49.

and Karen Clifton. Cold for some. It certainly is. The

:01:50.:02:03.

ice scraper is out again across southern and eastern parts of the

:02:04.:02:07.

UK. It's not the same everywhere. Some of you can leave the ice

:02:08.:02:15.

scraper alone but please grab the waterproofs! That's all coming up in

:02:16.:02:16.

15 minutes. The US President-elect,

:02:17.:02:20.

Donald Trump, is due to meet intelligence chiefs today,

:02:21.:02:25.

to discuss claims that Russia tried to interfere in the American

:02:26.:02:27.

presidential election. He's faced criticism

:02:28.:02:28.

from both Republicans and Democrats about his approach

:02:29.:02:30.

to the allegations, and less than 24 hours before the meeting,

:02:31.:02:32.

one of his top intelligence advisers The three wise men

:02:33.:02:35.

of US intelligence. Together in their belief that

:02:36.:02:43.

Russian hacking interfered with the presidential election,

:02:44.:02:47.

intending to help Donald Trump win. And it also entailed

:02:48.:02:53.

classical propaganda, But in the last few hours

:02:54.:03:02.

the President-elect has again How is the FBI so sure there

:03:03.:03:08.

was hacking, he asked in a tweet, when they didn't even examine

:03:09.:03:15.

the Democratic campaign It's the latest in a long list

:03:16.:03:16.

of online outbursts. First rubbishing intelligence

:03:17.:03:28.

officials, before saying he's a big The CIA director said

:03:29.:03:31.

he was expecting a feisty meeting. I am hoping that he will be

:03:32.:03:38.

respectful and professional. Respectful of the Agency

:03:39.:03:42.

as well as the community, and I'm looking forward to a rather

:03:43.:03:44.

robust, if not sporty, There has been more blunt criticism

:03:45.:03:47.

of Mr Trump's approach For a Oresident not to have

:03:48.:03:53.

confidence in, not to be prepared to listen to the myriad

:03:54.:04:03.

of intelligence agencies, from defence intelligence,

:04:04.:04:14.

the CIA etc, is absolutely mindless. Time to be an adult,

:04:15.:04:17.

you're President. Not President just yet,

:04:18.:04:23.

but Donald Trump's already announced at least two of these men will be

:04:24.:04:31.

replaced when he takes Theresa May is due to hold her first

:04:32.:04:33.

meeting with Donald Trump, It's emerged that two

:04:34.:04:43.

of the Prime Minister's closest aides went to Washington in December

:04:44.:04:47.

to hold discussions Our political correspondent,

:04:48.:04:49.

Eleanor Garnier, joins us They've made the initial foray and

:04:50.:05:05.

had pre-talk talks? That's right. I think it will be a significant

:05:06.:05:09.

moment, as is any first meeting between a UK Prime Minister and a

:05:10.:05:15.

new US President. I think Theresa May's relationship with the White

:05:16.:05:19.

House is especially important, as she tries to reshape the UK's role

:05:20.:05:24.

in the world that she takes Britain out of the EU. She won't be the

:05:25.:05:28.

first UK politician to meet Mr Trump. That was Nigel Farage, who

:05:29.:05:33.

last night was boasting that he is going to be at Mr Trump's

:05:34.:05:38.

inauguration. I think the fact she secretly sent her two most senior

:05:39.:05:45.

and trusted aides highlights how important she places the

:05:46.:05:48.

relationship between the UK and the US. I think it could have been Ozil

:05:49.:05:55.

bit of an awkward meeting, too. Her chief of staff have previously

:05:56.:06:02.

publicly criticised Mr Trump. One said he was a chump, the other

:06:03.:06:08.

claimed American politics was" depressing enough" before Trump took

:06:09.:06:11.

off. A building of bridges hasn't gone amiss.

:06:12.:06:22.

Aslef has said it will go ahead with the strike next week. The Transport

:06:23.:06:35.

Secretary Chris Grayling says the strikes are "Politically motivated".

:06:36.:06:38.

Chris Grayling will speak to us in a few minutes to tell us what it means

:06:39.:06:42.

for passengers and what he might do about it. A lack of funding to

:06:43.:06:54.

improve forensic science is jeopardising the integrity of the

:06:55.:06:56.

criminal justice system in England and Wales, according to a watchdog.

:06:57.:07:01.

The forensic science regulator says it is concerned about the processing

:07:02.:07:05.

of DNA samples taken from suspects and victims of crime. Delays in

:07:06.:07:10.

discharging patients in the NHS in England have become significantly

:07:11.:07:14.

worse in mental health trusts than in acute hospitals according to new

:07:15.:07:18.

research. There's been an increase of 60% in the number of beds

:07:19.:07:21.

occupied by patients who are well enough to leave but have. Ministers

:07:22.:07:33.

say they will be spending ?400 million over the next four years to

:07:34.:07:35.

ensure mental health teams can support people in their homes.

:07:36.:07:38.

Oliver Lang helped his father run a small post office in Norfolk. He was

:07:39.:07:42.

detained under the Mental Health Act and spent several weeks in a

:07:43.:07:45.

psychiatric unit. Even when he was well enough to leave, he couldn't.

:07:46.:07:50.

Delays in arranging suitable support in the community meant he spent two

:07:51.:07:55.

months unnecessarily in-hospital. I felt like I was in danger because a

:07:56.:08:00.

lot happens in hospital. I felt like if someone attacked me I would have

:08:01.:08:04.

to defend myself but if I did defend myself, they would say he is a

:08:05.:08:08.

danger to the public so they would keep me locked up for longer. The

:08:09.:08:13.

latest figures show more than 200,000 bed days were lost in

:08:14.:08:20.

England as a whole due to delayed discharges. The NHS trusts

:08:21.:08:23.

specialising in physical health care that represented a 30% rise on the

:08:24.:08:29.

previous 12 months. For those trusts most closely focused on mental

:08:30.:08:32.

health and learning disabilities, the increase was 56%. The analysis

:08:33.:08:38.

was carried out by this former care minister who says this shows mental

:08:39.:08:43.

health patients are being discriminated against. There is a

:08:44.:08:48.

shortage of community psychiatric nurses and support service like

:08:49.:08:51.

detox facilities, and a shortage in social care which has hit people

:08:52.:08:55.

with mental ill-health disproportionately hard. Ministers

:08:56.:09:00.

say they are spending ?400 million over the next four years to ensure

:09:01.:09:04.

mental health teams can provide more support to people in their homes.

:09:05.:09:10.

The pressure of patient numbers last month prompted a third of hospital

:09:11.:09:13.

trusts in England to issue warnings that they needed to take urgent

:09:14.:09:17.

action to cope, according to analysis seen by Radio 4. In the

:09:18.:09:21.

most serious cases, the trusts declared they were unable to give

:09:22.:09:25.

patients comprehensive care. The data comes from the Nuffield trust.

:09:26.:09:33.

Four people appeared due to appear in court in Chicago today charged

:09:34.:09:37.

with hate crimes over footage streamed on Facebook. The four

:09:38.:09:40.

suspects are accused of assaulting and racially taunting a white man

:09:41.:09:45.

with special needs. Police believe the victim may have been kidnapped

:09:46.:09:49.

48 hours before the attack. Stalkers will face longer jail terms as part

:09:50.:09:54.

of the drive to toughen punishments. The maximum sentence will rise to

:09:55.:09:58.

ten years. The Ministry of Justice says the plans will help ensure it

:09:59.:10:08.

minimises the impact on victims. The actor Om Puri has died at the age of

:10:09.:10:14.

66 and is reported to have had a heart attack. He was awarded an

:10:15.:10:19.

honorary OBE for his contribution to the British film industry in 2004.

:10:20.:10:23.

It is said to be one of the new landmarks that can be seen from

:10:24.:10:27.

space. Now one man has found a new way to view the great Wall of China

:10:28.:10:31.

from the air. Liam Lindsay has been dreaming of visiting it after seeing

:10:32.:10:37.

it in a school atlas when he was a child. Now he has travelled to China

:10:38.:10:40.

could to capture these stunning pictures, using a drone. A baby

:10:41.:10:47.

elephant in Thailand has been. Overcome her fear of water by

:10:48.:10:50.

learning to walk again by using hydrotherapy. Five-month-old

:10:51.:10:56.

elephant lost part of her foot in a trap which had been laid by

:10:57.:11:00.

villagers. She will need three months of this kind of treatment to

:11:01.:11:03.

help strengthen the muscles in her leg. Her vet says she is showing

:11:04.:11:07.

signs of improvement and despite most elephants loving water, she was

:11:08.:11:14.

actually a bit nervous when she first started. But clearly learning,

:11:15.:11:18.

with a harness to make sure she's OK. Those are the main stories. The

:11:19.:11:23.

weather and sport coming up later on.

:11:24.:11:28.

It's nearly six months since Chris Grayling took office

:11:29.:11:30.

as Secretary of State for Transport and said his top priority

:11:31.:11:33.

Since then, hundreds of thousands of passengers have endured

:11:34.:11:37.

the misery of numerous strike days - and they'll face another

:11:38.:11:39.

Before we speak to Mr Grayling, let's have a quick reminder

:11:40.:11:45.

It's the longest-running industrial dispute involving train staff

:11:46.:11:50.

since the railways were privatised in 1996, with the RMT's members -

:11:51.:11:53.

mainly conductors - having first walked out

:11:54.:11:54.

The drivers' union Aslef later joined them.

:11:55.:12:04.

Passengers have endured 30 days of strike action -

:12:05.:12:06.

The dispute is over the use of driver-only trains,

:12:07.:12:14.

which are already used on 30% of services.

:12:15.:12:20.

Let's speak now to the Transport Secretary Chris Grayling.

:12:21.:12:24.

Good morning. I've spoken to you twice at least, this is the third

:12:25.:12:31.

over the last month. This whole thing is hugely frustrating because

:12:32.:12:36.

as we discovered yesterday, with the report from Britain's leading

:12:37.:12:39.

independent rail safety regulator, the man in charge of safety on our

:12:40.:12:43.

Railways, that the system of train dispatch that is being used by

:12:44.:12:48.

Southern Rail now is safe. Therefore there is no reason for this strike

:12:49.:12:53.

to be happening. I'm as frustrated and irritated as anyone. I've been

:12:54.:12:56.

working behind the scenes for weeks and weeks and weeks, trying to find

:12:57.:13:02.

a way of getting the unions around tables to agree an approach that

:13:03.:13:09.

will settle this dispute. So far neither I nor others involved in

:13:10.:13:12.

doing this have been able to succeed in doing that. I'd love to ask you a

:13:13.:13:20.

question. You admit you have been trying for weeks, what are you going

:13:21.:13:24.

to do differently to solve this with these passengers? Now we've got the

:13:25.:13:28.

report yesterday, saying that there isn't a safety issue, I've written

:13:29.:13:31.

to the unions again and asked them to suspend the strike is next week.

:13:32.:13:37.

Come back round the table. We can look at issues around job

:13:38.:13:40.

protection. My view on our railways is that they are facing an

:13:41.:13:44.

unprecedented level of demand, that we are going to need more people not

:13:45.:13:49.

few on our trains and stations, looking after customers on our

:13:50.:13:52.

railways. There is no questions of jobs being cut. I have asked our

:13:53.:13:58.

chief rail safety inspector to look at setting some clear rules for the

:13:59.:14:03.

future about the introduction of new technologies like this. I said to

:14:04.:14:07.

the unions we are happy to look at some detailed transitional

:14:08.:14:09.

arrangements, to see if there are ways of easing the concerns our

:14:10.:14:14.

members have. Ultimately our independent safety regulator says

:14:15.:14:20.

the strike fund necessary and the dialogue around the table has been

:14:21.:14:26.

there for weeks and weeks. Ultimately I don't have the power to

:14:27.:14:30.

force unions to stop striking. I wish I did, but I don't. But you do

:14:31.:14:35.

have the power at least to talk to them. When our talks going to

:14:36.:14:39.

happen? There have been talks happening on and off for weeks. I've

:14:40.:14:46.

met Aslef, we've had discussions with Acas, direct discussions with

:14:47.:14:52.

the company and the unions. There have been talks after talks after

:14:53.:14:58.

talks. Informal, formal. This is the moment, surely, when the unions have

:14:59.:15:02.

to accept that the independent view of this strike is that there isn't a

:15:03.:15:06.

safety issue. This is surely the moment to come back round the table

:15:07.:15:11.

and sort this out. The start of the ten on that if let's see them

:15:12.:15:15.

suspend next week's strike action, stop disrupting the lives of passion

:15:16.:15:19.

does, and get this solved. What about Southern Rail and the way they

:15:20.:15:26.

have handled this? Aslef say they have had constructive relationships

:15:27.:15:29.

with other rail companies which they show tick-macro had shown a better

:15:30.:15:32.

way through. We've talked again about the issues Southern Rail have

:15:33.:15:38.

which have nothing to do with this strike.

:15:39.:15:48.

I have just received the report from Chris Gibb on what is working and

:15:49.:15:54.

what is not working. It is difficult to deliver change to a railway that

:15:55.:16:00.

is underperforming while the staff are on strike and when they are not

:16:01.:16:04.

on strike, they are working to rule so the trains don't run properly

:16:05.:16:08.

either. We need to sort out the long-term problems on this railway

:16:09.:16:12.

line, of which there are still many. Thank you for your time.

:16:13.:16:15.

You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

:16:16.:16:17.

The US President-elect, Donald Trump is to meet

:16:18.:16:21.

with intelligence chiefs for a briefing on claims that Russia

:16:22.:16:24.

meddled in the American presidential election.

:16:25.:16:39.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

:16:40.:16:42.

days of strike action on the Southern Rail network

:16:43.:16:45.

despite a report which says it is safe for train drivers

:16:46.:16:47.

Slightly frosted up car behind me. Lots of them around yesterday

:16:48.:17:02.

morning as we saw temperatures below freezing. The difference today. Some

:17:03.:17:12.

still seeing the frost. Notice, particularly Northern Ireland,

:17:13.:17:14.

County Down, 15 degrees warmer than it was this time yesterday. The big

:17:15.:17:21.

turnaround but there is a price to pay. The high pressure that broke

:17:22.:17:25.

clear skies yesterday has gone to Europe and it has allowed the

:17:26.:17:28.

Atlantic air to come in. With it, cloud and outbreaks of rain. Has

:17:29.:17:31.

been a wet morning in Northern Ireland. Things will turn drier

:17:32.:17:35.

through the rest of this morning. The heaviest rain clearing

:17:36.:17:41.

eastwards. Not a great day across south-west Scotland and southern

:17:42.:17:46.

Scotland seeing outbreaks of rain. A little bit brighter to the east.

:17:47.:17:51.

Across the Pennines, temperatures on the rise as cloud comes in. But

:17:52.:17:56.

eastern England and West and Wales, outbreaks of rain developing during

:17:57.:17:59.

the next few hours and cloud increasing towards much of the

:18:00.:18:04.

Southeast Midlands. Temperatures in Oxfordshire are already on the rise.

:18:05.:18:09.

To go with the sunshine in the south-east, fog around. This is

:18:10.:18:12.

where we see the brightest weather throughout the day but more cloud

:18:13.:18:15.

around compared with the blue skies of yesterday. More sunshine around

:18:16.:18:21.

northern Scotland. But the rain set in around northern England, West

:18:22.:18:25.

Midlands and most of Wales and also the south-west. Still cold in the

:18:26.:18:32.

south-east and anger, 11 in Belfast. Temperatures even out tonight. Rain

:18:33.:18:36.

spreading across southern parts of England through this evening. The

:18:37.:18:40.

coldest night will be northern Scotland where we will see a touch

:18:41.:18:45.

of frost in the Highland glens, but most will have a frost free night

:18:46.:18:48.

tonight and temperatures the south-west may not drop below eight

:18:49.:18:55.

or 9 degrees. On Saturday, the odd spot of rain and drizzle. Generally

:18:56.:19:00.

a grey start to the weekend for many. Misty over the hills. The

:19:01.:19:04.

exception will be northern Scotland where there will be sunny spells

:19:05.:19:12.

after a foggy start. We do it all again into Sunday. Frost for parts

:19:13.:19:15.

of Scotland but sunshine in eastern areas and also for eastern England.

:19:16.:19:21.

Sunday will be a cloudy day, patchy rain or drizzle in the West and

:19:22.:19:24.

temperatures above where they should be at this time of year. Whilst we

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experienced temperatures into double figures, spare a thought for those

:19:31.:19:35.

in eastern Europe. Daytime highs of this weekend may only be around

:19:36.:19:44.

minus ten 2-20d. Now that is cold! That really is. Thank goodness we

:19:45.:19:45.

don't have that. If you're under 20 years old then

:19:46.:19:53.

you're unlikely to have any memory of what happened in New York

:19:54.:19:56.

during the terror attacks of September 11th 2001,

:19:57.:19:58.

so how do you find out the facts That's the concern of

:19:59.:20:01.

the Labour Peer and former He says events in recent history

:20:02.:20:04.

like 9/11 and 7/7 should be taught in schools to prevent children

:20:05.:20:09.

believing conspiracy theories He joins us now from

:20:10.:20:11.

our London newsroom. Good morning. What is your concern?

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As you say, the children in our schools were not born when 9/11

:20:27.:20:31.

happened. The only way they are getting facts about 9/11, which did

:20:32.:20:37.

change the world. It is the first time a terrorist organisation, with

:20:38.:20:41.

no clear aims apart from hatred and dislike of other ways of life, went

:20:42.:20:45.

abroad and killed thousands of people. It put us into a different

:20:46.:20:50.

world we are in now. No word do these youngsters get the true facts

:20:51.:20:56.

about this. They go online and there is a lot of false information. That

:20:57.:21:00.

has been talk about truth, real truth and things like that. The

:21:01.:21:05.

terrorists themselves are online all the time trying to radicalise

:21:06.:21:09.

people. I think it is important youngsters are told about events

:21:10.:21:15.

that day and that is the aim since 9/11, this organisation I am patron

:21:16.:21:19.

of is try to establish that and we have a conference in Birmingham

:21:20.:21:26.

coming up on January 27. We are providing free packages of what can

:21:27.:21:30.

be taught, so youngsters, if they produce a good film or clip on their

:21:31.:21:34.

videos and things, or an essay, end up going to New York. New York are

:21:35.:21:41.

keen this happens. They feel they are forgotten about the events that

:21:42.:21:47.

happened that day. Presumably those who win will say the things you

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think happened. I am interested to know, that people like you are part

:21:53.:21:56.

of the problem. You are an establishment figure, you are part

:21:57.:22:03.

of the military and people might think they want to challenge the

:22:04.:22:08.

thinking on things. They may think you are part of the problem because

:22:09.:22:12.

they may think you have just accepted things you have been told

:22:13.:22:19.

and not questioned things enough? It is good they challenge things, if it

:22:20.:22:25.

is taught in schools, it is the opportunity to debate and the the

:22:26.:22:29.

evidence rather than one-sided, nonobjective view. It is a good

:22:30.:22:34.

thing there should be a debate, they should see the evidence laid down

:22:35.:22:37.

and see what actually happened that day. I was online the other day and

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there was nothing saying this was done by American businessmen because

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it meant they would be able to sell more. When you look that what

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evidence there was for it, it was just nonsense. I am afraid

:22:51.:22:55.

youngsters look at these things and think there is some truth behind

:22:56.:22:58.

what is being said without actually debating it. They say, that sounds

:22:59.:23:05.

rather good. I think it is a very bad thing. This sort of intolerance

:23:06.:23:09.

and lack of respect for other cultures and ways of living is a

:23:10.:23:12.

really bad thing. By teaching this, I am talking about it and there

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could be some debate and discussion on how important tolerance and

:23:18.:23:21.

respect are if we're not going to have dreadful incidents like the

:23:22.:23:27.

things that are happening on a daily basis around the world. Can I ask

:23:28.:23:32.

you in relation to today's Vance, Donald Trump is going to a meeting

:23:33.:23:35.

with his security officials in America. There is a fine line

:23:36.:23:44.

between the notion of conspiracy theory the healthy questioning.

:23:45.:23:48.

People are divided on his approach. He is meeting the CIA boss saying

:23:49.:23:53.

how can these officials be so sure, what is going on? There is a place,

:23:54.:23:58.

is there not, for people asking questions for people in those roles.

:23:59.:24:01.

Isn't that part of what you are talking about? There is a place, and

:24:02.:24:06.

with Donald Trump, he knows very little about lots of these issues.

:24:07.:24:10.

It is right he should as the question and go and talk about it

:24:11.:24:14.

with the people who have worked in that area all their lives. I have no

:24:15.:24:19.

doubt whatsoever he will come out of that going, goodness me, I didn't

:24:20.:24:25.

realise NSA and GCHQ are one of the few organisations in the world that

:24:26.:24:29.

are capable of getting attribution on where someone has caused some

:24:30.:24:34.

damage. And I have to say, the Russians and Chinese don't realise

:24:35.:24:37.

how good we are. It will be valuable for him to understand that and he

:24:38.:24:42.

will come out much wiser and I hope with a number of briefings he will

:24:43.:24:46.

be taught things he did know in the past and will become more aware of

:24:47.:24:50.

what the real position is. That debate is valuable. Absolutely

:24:51.:24:54.

right. Lord West, thank you for your time.

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All morning, Coletta is out on the water.

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I am here at the London boat show. It is leisurely this Friday morning.

:25:19.:25:23.

Where would you rather be, paddling around this lake with Peter, one of

:25:24.:25:28.

the instructors. It is actually harder than it looks? Physically, it

:25:29.:25:37.

is because of this time of the morning. You need to get a flexible,

:25:38.:25:45.

have some fun. It is a big industry. Boats like there's Archie, but the

:25:46.:25:50.

industry itself is ?3 billion worth to the whole of the UK. It is not

:25:51.:26:00.

just about... 80% of companies are small boat builders. We are about

:26:01.:26:03.

third in the chart when it comes to the amount of turnover and the

:26:04.:26:07.

number of companies based in the UK. It is a significant industry and one

:26:08.:26:12.

that has been growing for the last five years, by about 1% each year.

:26:13.:26:17.

We have been musing from beautiful boats like this one, to the

:26:18.:26:22.

high-tech end. The super yachts of this world that are high-tech,

:26:23.:26:28.

high-paid jobs. A significant number of people across the UK are employed

:26:29.:26:32.

in this industry as well as people getting involved in it and having a

:26:33.:26:37.

bit of fun. And yes, this see Bob thing you saw earlier, I am going to

:26:38.:26:41.

get a bit of training and I will get a go later on.

:26:42.:26:47.

Coletta, that is going to make my day. One of my favourite things I

:26:48.:26:52.

have seen. Good luck with the training. Do you think you will get

:26:53.:26:56.

to the underwater bit? But the microphone won't work. Good luck.

:26:57.:26:58.

I'll be back just after 9am. travel and weather where you are.

:26:59.:30:20.

But until then, you can stay up-to-date by checking our website

:30:21.:30:23.

Hello, this is Breakfast with Louise Minchin and Charlie Stayt.

:30:24.:30:29.

The US President-elect, Donald Trump, is due to meet

:30:30.:30:31.

intelligence chiefs today to discuss claims that Russia tried

:30:32.:30:33.

to interfere in the American presidential election.

:30:34.:30:39.

He's faced criticism from both Republicans

:30:40.:30:41.

and Democrats about his approach to the allegations, and less than 24

:30:42.:30:44.

hours before the meeting, one of his top intelligence advisers

:30:45.:30:46.

Theresa May is due to hold her first meeting with Donald Trump possibly

:30:47.:30:53.

as soon as next month. It's emerged that two

:30:54.:30:57.

of the Prime Minister's closest aides went to Washington in December

:30:58.:30:59.

to hold discussions with the President-elect's team.

:31:00.:31:05.

The failure to predict the financial crisis of 2008 was a "Michael Fish

:31:06.:31:08.

moment" for economists, the Bank of England's

:31:09.:31:11.

Chief Economist has said. Andy Haldane compared financial

:31:12.:31:14.

forecasts to the famously inaccurate reassurances given by the BBC

:31:15.:31:18.

weatherman ahead of the UK's great storm of 1987.

:31:19.:31:20.

Mr Haldane said the profession was "to some degree in crisis"

:31:21.:31:23.

following the crash and the Brexit vote.

:31:24.:31:30.

The train drivers' union Aslef says it will go ahead with three

:31:31.:31:33.

days of strike action on the Southern Rail

:31:34.:31:34.

That's despite a report by the Independent Rail Regulator

:31:35.:31:38.

claiming that trains with driver-operated

:31:39.:31:39.

doors - the source of the dispute - are safe.

:31:40.:31:50.

The Transport Secretary Chris Grayling says the unions were

:31:51.:31:54.

determined to go ahead with the action, despite his best efforts. I

:31:55.:31:59.

am as frustrated and irritated and annoyed as anyone. I have been

:32:00.:32:03.

working behind-the-scenes for weeks and weeks and weeks, trying to find

:32:04.:32:07.

a way of getting the unions around tables to agree an approach that

:32:08.:32:13.

will settle this dispute. And so far I have to say that neither I nor a

:32:14.:32:18.

cast nor others that have been involved in this have been able to

:32:19.:32:22.

succeed in doing this. It is a wholly unnecessary strike -- neither

:32:23.:32:24.

I nor ACAS. Delays in discharging patients

:32:25.:32:26.

in the NHS in England have become significantly worse in mental health

:32:27.:32:28.

trusts than in acute hospitals, according to new research.

:32:29.:32:30.

There's been an increase of 60% in the number of beds occupied

:32:31.:32:33.

by patients who are well enough to leave but have nowhere to go -

:32:34.:32:36.

known as bed blocking. Ministers say they will be spending

:32:37.:32:39.

?400 million over the next four years to ensure mental health teams

:32:40.:32:42.

can provide support Four people are due to appear

:32:43.:32:44.

in court in Chicago later today charged with hate crimes over

:32:45.:32:48.

footage streamed live on Facebook. The four suspects are accused

:32:49.:32:52.

of assaulting and racially taunting Police believe the victim may have

:32:53.:32:54.

been kidnapped up to 48 The actor Om Puri, who starred

:32:55.:33:02.

in the British comedy East is East, has died in India.

:33:03.:33:08.

He was 66 and is reported Om Puri was awarded an honorary OBE

:33:09.:33:10.

for his contribution to the British It's said to be one

:33:11.:33:15.

of the only landmarks that Now, one man has found a new way

:33:16.:33:23.

to view the Great Wall of China from the air.

:33:24.:33:27.

William Lindesay has been dreaming of visiting it since he saw

:33:28.:33:30.

it in a school atlas Now he's travelled from Merseyside

:33:31.:33:32.

to China to capture these stunning He has filmed the entire length of

:33:33.:33:49.

the great Wall of China, providing some stunning images along the way.

:33:50.:33:53.

It does look absolutely amazing, doesn't it? It is not easy staying

:33:54.:34:00.

on your feet when roads and pavements freeze over. But doctors

:34:01.:34:05.

in Germany are offering some strange advice.

:34:06.:34:06.

Apparently leaning the torso forward means the centre of gravity

:34:07.:34:17.

stays on the front leg, reducing the risk of

:34:18.:34:19.

The advisory was published on the website of the German Society

:34:20.:34:23.

of Orthopaedics and Trauma Surgery ahead of a cold snap this week.

:34:24.:34:26.

We're not making it up, you know! That is the kind of advice I take

:34:27.:34:36.

very seriously! Leaned forward... Walk like a penguin. But not with

:34:37.:34:41.

your arms back! That's not how the Penguins do it!

:34:42.:34:44.

They're the married couple who salsa with the stars.

:34:45.:34:53.

Karen and Kevin Clifton will be on the sofa to chat Strictly

:34:54.:34:56.

and their plans to get more children dancing.

:34:57.:34:58.

These might not be the old stones you normally associate

:34:59.:35:00.

But we'll hear from the archaeologist who's recreated

:35:01.:35:03.

the lost sound of Stonehenge. He's Tom Hardy and he's

:35:04.:35:10.

The star of Taboo, the BBC's latest historical drama.

:35:11.:35:17.

We'll find out what makes him so dangerous,

:35:18.:35:19.

He plays a really steady scary character. Mike, do you have a

:35:20.:35:33.

penguin anecdote? I wonder if any of the footballers will need to run

:35:34.:35:38.

around like penguins in the FA Cup this weekend. It would make the

:35:39.:35:42.

world a brighter place if we all walked like penguins. The trouble

:35:43.:35:47.

is, you get distracted and end up laughing and then probably tripped

:35:48.:35:52.

over! It's important to exercise the old muscles, you've got to do it.

:35:53.:36:01.

Anyway, the FA Cup... Somewhere out there there will be a player, maybe

:36:02.:36:05.

he has another job as well, plays for his local non-league side who

:36:06.:36:09.

nobody has ever heard of, but this weekend, suddenly, like winning the

:36:10.:36:12.

lottery or X Factor, will become back page news. By causing an FA Cup

:36:13.:36:18.

upset, that's what we love about the FA Cup. That's why the big managers

:36:19.:36:22.

love it as well. An element of danger coming up for some of those

:36:23.:36:26.

big teams. To be part of the FA Cup is one factor in why the world's top

:36:27.:36:31.

managers like Pep Guardiola come to work in Manchester city.

:36:32.:36:33.

The third round of the FA Cup gets underway this evening.

:36:34.:36:36.

The first match of the weekend is an all-Premier League tie

:36:37.:36:38.

at the London Stadium, where West Ham host Manchester City.

:36:39.:36:41.

City manager Pep Guardiola has achieved many things

:36:42.:36:43.

in the game already, but he's never been

:36:44.:36:45.

What I hear before, the cup is special because the lower teams can

:36:46.:36:54.

beat the big teams in one game, that's why it's so fascinating. It

:36:55.:37:01.

can happen in the cup. That's why I'm looking forward. But of course

:37:02.:37:04.

it is the Premier League games, it's tough, it'll be tough.

:37:05.:37:07.

A big game for us, a big game for them. It is the FA Cup. A big game

:37:08.:37:19.

for both clubs, dangerous for the fans of course. And I'm sure that

:37:20.:37:24.

they are going to again also put a very strong team.

:37:25.:37:28.

Breaking football news this morning...

:37:29.:37:31.

Chelsea midfielder John Obi Mikel has this morning become the latest

:37:32.:37:33.

big name player to join the Chinese super league.

:37:34.:37:35.

The 29-year-old, who's spent more than a decade

:37:36.:37:37.

at Stamford Bridge, was given a free transfer by chelsea.

:37:38.:37:40.

It comes after several other big names, including fellow Chelsea

:37:41.:37:43.

player Oscar and Carlos Tevez, made multi-million

:37:44.:37:46.

Johanna Konta has been beaten this morning in the semi-finals

:37:47.:37:53.

She lost in three sets to the Czech player Katerina Siniakova.

:37:54.:37:59.

Better news, though, for Andy Murray.

:38:00.:38:01.

He's through to the semi-finals of the Qatar Open after

:38:02.:38:04.

a hard-fought victory over Spain's Nicolas Almagro yesterday.

:38:05.:38:09.

He'll face Thomas Berdych in the last four, and could face

:38:10.:38:11.

Castleford Tigers will claim they should receive ?500,000

:38:12.:38:18.

in compensation after winger Denny Solomona left the club

:38:19.:38:20.

and swapped codes, joining Rugby Union side Sale.

:38:21.:38:24.

The BBC has seen court papers which claim Sale had been interested

:38:25.:38:27.

in the player moving since last summer,

:38:28.:38:29.

and that they knew he was under contract with Castleford

:38:30.:38:31.

Sale deny that they, the player or his agent have

:38:32.:38:38.

It's understood the legal claim was issued in court last month.

:38:39.:38:44.

We remember him paddling his way down the rapids to medals

:38:45.:38:47.

in the summer, but now the British Olympic canoeing star

:38:48.:38:49.

Richard Hounslow has retired from the sport.

:38:50.:38:52.

He's 35, and won two silver medals in the canoe double with partner

:38:53.:38:55.

David Florence at London 2012 and Rio 2016.

:38:56.:39:02.

Hounslow, seen here on the right, said it had been a "true honour"

:39:03.:39:05.

to represent his country at the highest level.

:39:06.:39:12.

He loved most things about it, but also didn't like somethings.

:39:13.:39:17.

That's it for today. I don't suppose you've ever heard of this sport, one

:39:18.:39:29.

of Asia's biggest sports, involving martial arts, kung fu and a bit of

:39:30.:39:35.

football. It's now in the UK. I've been playing it. Are you any good

:39:36.:39:40.

wears white no, I almost gave myself an injury!

:39:41.:39:42.

You may be more used to seeing Kevin from Grimsby and Karen Clifton

:39:43.:39:46.

on the Strictly dancefloor, as they train their celebrity

:39:47.:39:48.

partners in a quest to win the coveted Glitterball Trophy.

:39:49.:39:50.

But now, the husband-and-wife team are taking their fancy footwork

:39:51.:39:53.

on tour in their very first live headline show.

:39:54.:39:57.

But first, let's take a look at some of their performances

:39:58.:40:01.

Lovely to see you. What a year it's been for the whole family, really,

:40:02.:41:05.

hasn't it? Yes, it's been a crazy, crazy year. My sister, we did

:41:06.:41:09.

Strictly, and the two of us have been part of the series. In

:41:10.:41:15.

Strictly, along with our very own Ore. He was really good! We had an

:41:16.:41:20.

amazing time, I was really proud of her. Last year she didn't have a

:41:21.:41:24.

celebrity partner in the show, she was one of the extra prose. This

:41:25.:41:28.

year to get partnered with Ore and to come through and win was amazing.

:41:29.:41:32.

I grabbed hold of her when they announced the names and swung her

:41:33.:41:38.

around and nearly knocked over the trivia! The series is over, so you

:41:39.:41:42.

can talk freely. In amongst you dancers, when you get assigned your

:41:43.:41:45.

dance, you must talk amongst yourselves. There must be a buzz

:41:46.:41:50.

around people. Is it like that? You must do? There are certain people

:41:51.:41:55.

who you go, I'd like to dance with that person that person, or,

:41:56.:41:59.

actually identifying going to get a lot with that person. That is

:42:00.:42:02.

natural is the blog most of the times, they are great matchmakers.

:42:03.:42:08.

They are good at partnering. We've been really lucky with our partners.

:42:09.:42:11.

We are still very friendly with them. It's one of those things that

:42:12.:42:15.

sometimes you wish you would get someone, but you end up getting

:42:16.:42:18.

somebody else but used all make the best out of it and end up being

:42:19.:42:23.

really good friends. In some ways this is a frustrating show I imagine

:42:24.:42:27.

for you this year, with Will Young. It was heartbreaking. It was one of

:42:28.:42:31.

those things that nobody really knows, you know, how I felt. And,

:42:32.:42:38.

yeah, I was very... Where you shocked at the time when he made the

:42:39.:42:42.

decision? I didn't see it coming, that was the thing. As a

:42:43.:42:46.

professional dancer, you wait for this moment, for this series, to.

:42:47.:42:50.

Come Because that's what you love to do. I love my job and I love pushing

:42:51.:42:55.

our celebs. When I found out that he was leaving, it really broke me

:42:56.:42:59.

down. And, yes, I was there supporting Kevin and Joanne and

:43:00.:43:02.

everyone else, but part of me wished that I was still in it. And he was

:43:03.:43:07.

the one who got away! Kevin, you made it to the final again. Your

:43:08.:43:12.

role is part shooter, but presumably there is a lot of this that has to

:43:13.:43:17.

go on as well. -- part tutor. The relationship between you, you have

:43:18.:43:22.

to build their confidence. Yet, especially the series with Louise.

:43:23.:43:25.

When she came in, one of the first things that she said was, I'll give

:43:26.:43:29.

you my best, I promise, but I really don't know if I'm going to have the

:43:30.:43:32.

confidence to do this. She was seeing some of the other people on

:43:33.:43:36.

the show, Daisy and Laura and people like that, she was seeing them as

:43:37.:43:40.

sort of younger girls, and saying, I don't know if I can compete with

:43:41.:43:47.

them, I don't have the confidence. She was shy through the first few

:43:48.:43:49.

weeks in her performances, even though she was dancing well. A lot

:43:50.:43:52.

of work had to go into making her feel comfortable and getting her to

:43:53.:43:55.

trust the choreography a bit and start letting go. There was a

:43:56.:43:58.

moment, the charleston, the next week we did Argentine tango. Around

:43:59.:44:03.

the industry is she started to lose her inhibitions and let go. I was

:44:04.:44:09.

really proud of her in the end. You build their confidence and you gain

:44:10.:44:13.

the trust and they start to come out and perform for you and for

:44:14.:44:17.

themselves, which is great. How do you deal, presumably you know how to

:44:18.:44:20.

deal with the nerves, but the nurse have got to be immense, haven't

:44:21.:44:25.

they? They aren't insane -- the nerves. We get nervous, and you try

:44:26.:44:30.

not to show it. But even on our own performances, you know, especially

:44:31.:44:33.

now we are going to be doing our own tour, I'm going to be like, I don't

:44:34.:44:37.

want to go out the! But once that light hits you and you feel the

:44:38.:44:41.

applause of the audience, everything goes away. You know, it's all worth

:44:42.:44:45.

it. You know, you do get the nerves and it is scary, because you don't

:44:46.:44:52.

want to make a mistake or anything like that. I suppose the mistakes,

:44:53.:44:55.

in Strictly they pointed out, but in the taught the audience are not

:44:56.:44:59.

going to know. Kevin will push me around, I will be putting my nails

:45:00.:45:05.

into him if he goes wrong! If you go wrong because of nerves, and

:45:06.:45:08.

Strictly you can blame the celebrity! If it's visible on our

:45:09.:45:14.

own tour, there are plans with us. The white you are husband and wife

:45:15.:45:19.

on tour all the time together, what the upsides and downsides of being

:45:20.:45:20.

husband and wife in that situation? The upside, we know each other so

:45:21.:45:31.

well that damps wise, if something was to go wrong, to forget

:45:32.:45:35.

choreography or something, we can improvise easily with each other

:45:36.:45:39.

because we just each other, so we could probably put on some music and

:45:40.:45:43.

improvise the whole thing. But if you are on tour with somebody

:45:44.:45:50.

normally and they are not your partner, you can get away from them,

:45:51.:45:54.

but you are together all the time? I like it, I like hanging out with

:45:55.:46:02.

Kevin, he is a nice guy! You want to get youngsters more involved in

:46:03.:46:05.

dancing generally? One of the biggest problems with the ballroom

:46:06.:46:09.

dancing industry is that it is geared towards competitions and

:46:10.:46:13.

exams all the time, and I think if you are only dancing for a result or

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a grade of some kind then it is sort of the enemy of the creativity, and

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I think kids have got to be allowed to go wrong a little bit and just

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enjoyed dancing and performing, rather than trying to get everything

:46:28.:46:32.

so perfect all the time just to get a result, so we have created down

:46:33.:46:36.

schools where... You just did that local thing! I am constantly

:46:37.:46:44.

clicking! It is an environment where they can come and enjoy learning

:46:45.:46:47.

ballroom dancing. It builds self-confidence and discipline but

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in a fun non-competitive way, which is the way we like to do. Also we

:46:52.:46:56.

try to incorporate different styles as well because, for me, I started

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with ballet and contemporary, Kevin has always done ballroom and Latin,

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but it is fun to bring different flavours and fields to the damps and

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the kids love it. I cannot even do that! Everything clicks! Mine don't

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make any noise is! It is lovely to see you, that will

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stay with me for a while! Kevin and Karen's first live UK

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tour starts in May. Let's take a moment have a look at

:47:23.:47:30.

the weather. I bet some Alberts could do with a

:47:31.:47:35.

hot salsa at the moment because it is cold once again. Frosty start of

:47:36.:47:39.

the day for southern and eastern England, for others the temperature

:47:40.:47:43.

has started to rise but with it cloud and outbreaks of rain, a day

:47:44.:47:48.

of contrast. Temperature started at -6 in the south-east, but 15 degrees

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warmer in Northern Ireland and in County Down 15 degrees warmer than

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it was this time yesterday. That milder air pushes across much of the

:47:57.:48:00.

UK through this weekend, though there will still be some night-time

:48:01.:48:03.

Prost, particularly in northern parts of Scotland. To start this

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morning frost is across East Anglia and the south-east, some showers

:48:09.:48:11.

drifting through Kent onto very cold ground, also icy conditions in

:48:12.:48:16.

Sussex and away from one or two patches of freezing fog as well, but

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a dry and bright start for most. Devon and Cornwall, into Wales, much

:48:22.:48:25.

of the Northwest Midlands and Wales, outbreaks of rain established

:48:26.:48:28.

towards the coast and the breeze picking up. Northern England, the

:48:29.:48:34.

temperature at starting to rise as the cloud spreads in. Bright enough

:48:35.:48:38.

in the north-east of Scotland but across the south-west and Northern

:48:39.:48:41.

Ireland we are seeing outbreaks of rain. Most of that eases off from

:48:42.:48:45.

Northern Ireland in the next few hours, just a spot of drizzle in the

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afternoon, but quite wet in southern Scotland and turning wetter in

:48:50.:48:52.

northern England, the Pennines, across Wales, heavy rain across the

:48:53.:48:56.

hills. By the afternoon that spreads across the Midlands as well. Not

:48:57.:49:08.

quite blue skies in the south-east but still some sunny spells, though

:49:09.:49:10.

called, 5 degrees in Norwich compared to 11 in Belfast. As we go

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into this evening, if you are out on the town, South East, East Anglia,

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it will be done for a time throughout the night, but further

:49:20.:49:23.

north we will see clear skies in northern Scotland so frost here and

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into the weekend this is what the best of the weekend sometime will

:49:28.:49:30.

be, particularly to the north-east. Elsewhere, grey start to the

:49:31.:49:34.

weekend, Mr Grasso Hills, patchy rain and drizzle in the south and

:49:35.:49:39.

while there will be the odd spot of rain and drizzle over the hills

:49:40.:49:43.

elsewhere, many will be dry into the afternoon and a good deal milder in

:49:44.:49:46.

southern areas than the last few days. Five or six in northern

:49:47.:49:51.

Scotland but you have the sunshine. The best of the sunshine on Sunday

:49:52.:49:55.

morning, eastern parts of England, lots of cloud in the West, one or

:49:56.:50:00.

two spots of drizzle but many will be largely dry and temperatures

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peaking around 11 Celsius in Plymouth. While we see temperatures

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climb this weekend into double figures, on the positive side of

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freezing, spare a thought for those in Eastern Europe. Athens barely

:50:11.:50:14.

getting above freezing all day long, Moscow their daytime high, if you

:50:15.:50:19.

can cool it that, is -25 degrees, and they never -- I may never

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complain about an outside broadcast again!

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Many of you will be getting ready for work right now,

:50:29.:50:31.

and here's a question for you - how would a six-hour

:50:32.:50:33.

It's an idea that has been gaining momentum across Europe,

:50:34.:50:37.

but a recent high-profile experiment by a Swedish care home found

:50:38.:50:40.

the benefits for staff were outweighed by the spiralling costs.

:50:41.:50:42.

Here's how a company in Liverpool got on when they trialled it

:50:43.:50:47.

So, get your coats on, we are going out.

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Can I take my laptop with me, please?

:50:55.:50:58.

This might not look productive, but the Swedes believe

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So, no updating social media profiles or online shopping

:51:05.:51:09.

when you're in the office, leaving time for recreation

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So, programmer Rick spent some quality time with his family.

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It's taken some of the strain, I think with having four children

:51:22.:51:28.

it's nice to have him home to share half the load.

:51:29.:51:31.

I'm grateful that he comes home at 5pm instead of seven,

:51:32.:51:34.

because he can help with my GCSE home work.

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And his colleagues now have time for the things they love, too.

:51:38.:51:40.

One of the things that I'm benefiting from most

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And I'm more productive in the hours that I'm actually at work.

:51:43.:51:46.

OK, anybody who came in at half eight,

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You're going to have to switch it off.

:51:52.:51:58.

Explain to them that they'll have it in the morning,

:51:59.:52:03.

With a deadline to hit, graphic designer Ben is determined

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to get the job done, and phones the boss,

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Joining us now is Jeanette Gill and Rick Blundell, who took part

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in that trial at Agent Marketing, and Professor of Occupational

:52:22.:52:24.

Good morning to you. Jeanette, you were playing the bad guy, the one in

:52:25.:52:36.

charge of making sure people stuck to their six hours? We went into it

:52:37.:52:39.

with an open mind, said we would trial it and see if it worked, and

:52:40.:52:43.

we tried as much as we could to stick to the six hours, but we said

:52:44.:52:46.

all along that client work came first. If a deadline came in, urgent

:52:47.:52:51.

work, we would abandon the six hour working day, but we did as much as

:52:52.:52:55.

we could to stick to the six hours. How did it work for you? It was

:52:56.:53:02.

great, and invaluable experience. Like Jeanette says, in theory it

:53:03.:53:06.

would have been fantastic but clients always come first, so

:53:07.:53:10.

sometimes with print deadlines we would have to do stay later and

:53:11.:53:20.

obviously provide client delay. There was that moment when you said

:53:21.:53:27.

to down tools and people were more stressed to stop working... We found

:53:28.:53:31.

that there were more pros to the experiment and cons. Just take us

:53:32.:53:36.

through a quick list, prose? The obvious ones, staff were happier

:53:37.:53:40.

because they have more time to relax and have some downtime, they were

:53:41.:53:47.

more productive. We found that the clients, we have worked with amazing

:53:48.:53:50.

clients over the past 12 months because we find people want to work

:53:51.:53:54.

with people who look after their staff. So they heard you were doing

:53:55.:53:58.

this and were interested in you? Yes, I think a lot of companies, the

:53:59.:54:02.

health and well-being of staff is important to them. So the theory

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goes you work less but you are more productive when you are there,

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Rachel, is that the idea? Anything that improves people's well-being

:54:14.:54:17.

will improve productivity so the evidence is clear that if people are

:54:18.:54:21.

happy and healthy at work then they will be more productive. Presumably

:54:22.:54:25.

you can't set a limit because everybody is different as well? Why

:54:26.:54:30.

choose six hours? I think that is right, that is what we see from the

:54:31.:54:34.

two Case studies, it depends not just on the type of person but the

:54:35.:54:40.

type of work as well. We cannot specify for every workplace that

:54:41.:54:45.

this would be useful. With nurses it works in this context because

:54:46.:54:48.

firstly they have the resource to be able to get more people on shift but

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secondly nurses do a job that is incredibly high in emotional labour

:54:56.:54:58.

so by the end of the shift they are exhausted, so to give them that

:54:59.:55:01.

extra time to them recover before their next shift is going to be

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helpful, so therefore they will be able to have more of that behaviour

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that enables them to be friendly and compassionate and everything that

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slips if we are tired. Is it a simple equation, though, that if you

:55:17.:55:19.

love your job then you won't mind working such long hours so you would

:55:20.:55:25.

be happy, but if you hate your job any less hours would be a good

:55:26.:55:28.

thing? There is an element of that, it is true that if you are more

:55:29.:55:31.

motivated you will be more productive, but what we can also see

:55:32.:55:36.

is that if you are motivated but not well, not happy and healthy at work,

:55:37.:55:41.

then you will get burned out and it will not be sustainable long-term,

:55:42.:55:44.

so it is not enough to just love your job, you have to be looked

:55:45.:55:50.

after as well. Jeanette, you told us about the positives, what went

:55:51.:55:55.

wrong? Obviously from the off we said that the clients come first but

:55:56.:55:59.

it took the staff a while to adapt to the working day, losing a two

:56:00.:56:03.

hours of their day, but at the same time we learned how to work smarter,

:56:04.:56:08.

to be more productive, we shortened our team meeting so that we knew

:56:09.:56:11.

what we wanted from each meeting when we went in and came out more

:56:12.:56:16.

productive and having a result from each meeting. We saw your son in the

:56:17.:56:19.

film who said the good thing was that dad would be home to help with

:56:20.:56:25.

his GCSEs? Yes, he is doing GCSEs this year. Were you any help at all?

:56:26.:56:33.

He is probably better off without my help, to be honest! It was good to

:56:34.:56:36.

help with the cooking and cleaning, I would normally get home around 7pm

:56:37.:56:41.

but I was getting home at 5pm. Is it over now, have you adopted some of

:56:42.:56:46.

it? We went in with an open mind and said we would see how it goes, and

:56:47.:56:50.

after two months we sat down with clients and with the team, said what

:56:51.:56:54.

had worked, what we liked, what didn't work, and we now have, we

:56:55.:57:01.

have adapted it so it works for us, we do two shorter days during the

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week, Friday and everyone can pick one additional day during the week.

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What a lovely idea! Thank you all very much.

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He's been dubbed Britain's grumpiest shopkeeper,

:57:15.:57:15.

after charging customers 50p to browse his

:57:16.:57:17.

But with small retailers facing huge competition from high street giants

:57:18.:57:21.

and internet shopping, you might think that Steve Bloom

:57:22.:57:23.

To be clear, you have to pay 50p to go into the shop, though there is a

:57:24.:57:31.

bit of negotiation, possibly. A charming market town nestled

:57:32.:57:33.

in the Yorkshire Dales. Hawes isn't supposed

:57:34.:57:36.

to court controversy, but beyond these doors is a book

:57:37.:57:39.

shop, and browsers Have you bought

:57:40.:57:41.

anything here before? And then - between you,

:57:42.:57:45.

not each - and if you buy Not everybody likes it,

:57:46.:57:56.

and certain words have been exchanged which you won't find

:57:57.:58:01.

in any of these books. I'm comfortable with feeling

:58:02.:58:05.

that the people who come in appreciate it, and I do feel

:58:06.:58:13.

it is my right. People say to me, "You

:58:14.:58:16.

shouldn't be doing this." Well, you get charged all the time

:58:17.:58:19.

for all sorts of things. If there's a book fair,

:58:20.:58:26.

a craft fair, a car park. It's not so ridiculous

:58:27.:58:28.

as people say it is. But the parish council

:58:29.:58:32.

says it is embarrassed. When people who are unaware

:58:33.:58:37.

of the charge are challenged by him to pay it, he then sets off

:58:38.:58:42.

being rude and offensive. And so the damage to our

:58:43.:58:46.

reputation in the wider world The building where Steve's shop

:58:47.:58:54.

is based is run by trustees. They say his management style does

:58:55.:58:59.

not constitute a public nuisance. In the meantime, Steve has agreed

:59:00.:59:04.

to put up a sign which will tell Lots of you have been getting

:59:05.:59:09.

in touch about this. It does divide people. Nick says, in

:59:10.:59:24.

this world you charge for everything, good on him, I'd pay to

:59:25.:59:29.

browse. Janet says, I agree with him, you don't make much profit out

:59:30.:59:32.

of second-hand books, and you want your customers to be serious readers

:59:33.:59:36.

and not just coming in-out of the cold. Jenny says, when we happily

:59:37.:59:41.

agreed to pay the 50p he let us in for free. He's just ensuring genuine

:59:42.:59:46.

customers. Jean is an agreement, I'm a second-hand book-seller as well,

:59:47.:59:55.

in a second-hand book shop. It can be a difficult task, I would not

:59:56.:59:58.

think of charging people to coming unless they are obvious time wasters

:59:59.:00:00.

who just coming and either make a phone call in the quiet or hang

:00:01.:00:03.

around for 20 minutes until the bus. Quite a lot of people come in and

:00:04.:00:06.

walk around without buying a book, she's as, slightly bitterly, even

:00:07.:00:10.

for just ?1, despite holding a takeaway coffee that must have cost

:00:11.:00:14.

about ?3. Thank you very much for all of those comments. It's 9am.

:00:15.:00:17.

Coletta's been out on the water for us this morning,

:00:18.:00:20.

finding out why the leisure boating industry in the UK is so buoyant.

:00:21.:00:22.

She has, very sweetly, got in the water and she has got things to show

:00:23.:00:28.

us. I know she can't hear us. Good morning. Good morning, welcome back

:00:29.:00:33.

to the London Boat Show. We were supposed to be talking about the

:00:34.:00:37.

UK's leisure boat industry, but somewhat inevitably I've ended up in

:00:38.:00:41.

the water. I'm not quite sure how that happened! My outfit has been

:00:42.:00:44.

getting progressively more glamorous through them wanting. Fully topped

:00:45.:00:48.

up with gloves and Little Boots as well as this headgear on. --

:00:49.:00:53.

throughout the morning. I'm here to chat about the leisure side of the

:00:54.:00:57.

market. This is the cheaper end for a lot of people come at the

:00:58.:01:02.

accessible end of this market? Absolutely, we have got power boards

:01:03.:01:05.

and kayaks. Absolutely, this is how you can get on the water anywhere

:01:06.:01:09.

really easily and quickly and accessibly. You had a particular

:01:10.:01:13.

statistic about people in the UK never being too far from water.

:01:14.:01:18.

Anywhere in the UK, you are probably no more than 70 miles away from a

:01:19.:01:22.

stretch of water or the coast. There is no reason why we can't get more

:01:23.:01:26.

active and water. How has business look for you over the last couple of

:01:27.:01:30.

years, have you seen people spending more on watersports? We're getting

:01:31.:01:34.

people into the sport, absolutely. Our figures have been on the rise

:01:35.:01:41.

the past few years. More people wanting to come and get involved,

:01:42.:01:44.

get active on the water and do something active, which we offer. In

:01:45.:01:46.

this nice high-end boat that somehow I'm outside of is viewed by. The by,

:01:47.:01:51.

when it comes to high-end market, we are seeing millionaires and people

:01:52.:01:57.

spending on CB yachts, but people are holidaying more, too? We have

:01:58.:02:02.

managed to escape the wet suits, exhibition cruises are big business,

:02:03.:02:06.

River cruises, we'll even dedicated a feature to them in our next issue

:02:07.:02:11.

because they are so big. People want to feel like they have an adventure,

:02:12.:02:15.

but on vessels where they have a bit more comfort. Some of these

:02:16.:02:19.

expedition vessel is were research vessels or icebreakers. They are

:02:20.:02:22.

high-end in a way that they are still quite rough and ready. It is

:02:23.:02:26.

lower numbers of passengers, maybe only about 100 guests. You get to do

:02:27.:02:30.

lots of active things, similar to what you'll be doing shortly. About

:02:31.:02:35.

that, when it comes to this see Bob that we've been looking at all

:02:36.:02:40.

morning, this is it. It will set you back about ?10,000. Simon, my

:02:41.:02:44.

producer, has to be here to help with this bit. I'm going to have a

:02:45.:02:48.

go. Oh, dear. We need to switch around this way. I'm going to have a

:02:49.:02:57.

go, I had a bit of instruction from Rob earlier on today. I need a

:02:58.:03:00.

snorkel to get fully involved in this. Louise, I'm blaming you for

:03:01.:03:02.

this one! For being too interested in this particular device. Oh, it's

:03:03.:03:06.

not on. Yes, will have to turn it on.

:03:07.:03:11.

Top Mac is going to take a few seconds to boot up, but it's worth

:03:12.:03:19.

it. I've not tried to go underground just yet. Thanks, AJ. Here goes...

:03:20.:03:32.

STUDIO: She's got the technique now... Sort of! You know, it's just

:03:33.:03:51.

things that you never expected to do this morning, that was pretty high

:03:52.:03:55.

up my list. I'm going to try and have a chat, can anybody hear me?

:03:56.:03:59.

The white we can certainly hear you, I take my hat off to you. How was

:04:00.:04:06.

it? Could! This water is colder than it looks. It might be inside, but

:04:07.:04:11.

actually it is near zero, it feels like it when you've been standing

:04:12.:04:15.

here for a while. Amazing fun, one of those things. This industry

:04:16.:04:20.

certainly has a high-end and doesn't come cheap. Thank you so much,

:04:21.:04:25.

Collett. I feel a bit bad now! Get out in the warm! It's worth ?10,000,

:04:26.:04:32.

that thing. Maybe you could hire one. Or build one yourself! You try.

:04:33.:04:37.

In a moment, we'll be speaking to the man behind the BBC's

:04:38.:04:40.

But first a last, brief look at the headlines

:04:41.:04:43.

There are historical dramas, and then there are historical dramas

:04:44.:06:31.

The creator of cult gangster epic Peaky Blinders has built

:06:32.:06:35.

a reputation as the man to go to for a gritty period piece.

:06:36.:06:38.

And that's certainly the case with his latest series,

:06:39.:06:40.

Taboo, which stars Tom Hardy and starts on BBC One tomorrow night.

:06:41.:06:43.

We'll be speaking to Steven Knight in a moment.

:06:44.:06:45.

But first, here's a clip from the first episode.

:06:46.:06:52.

This, this small piece of land that my father bought for a bead,

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bless him, and gunpowder some 30 years ago, actually,

:07:00.:07:02.

erm, well, will be very, very valuable to the crown

:07:03.:07:05.

and to the East India, but also incredibly

:07:06.:07:10.

Mr Delaney, as a British subject you owe a debt of loyalty

:07:11.:07:17.

If patriotism is not in your motivation,

:07:18.:07:26.

Before your unexpected return, we had agreed a figure

:07:27.:07:34.

Her husband drove a particularly hard bargain.

:07:35.:07:42.

You know what, I think that brooding is a word sometimes overused, but

:07:43.:08:03.

Tom Hardy is definitely brooding! He does it well. Just explain the

:08:04.:08:07.

context, what do we know about the Tom Hardy character? It's the story

:08:08.:08:10.

of an adventurer who has been to Africa and comes back with a lot of

:08:11.:08:14.

secrets, a lot of anger and a lot of ambition. And some diamonds. And he

:08:15.:08:19.

comes back with an intention of setting up a trading company of his

:08:20.:08:24.

own. It's sort of about an individual establishing themselves

:08:25.:08:27.

at a time when individuals were beginning to establish themselves,

:08:28.:08:30.

in other words, he's not loyal to the Crown, he's not loyal to any

:08:31.:08:34.

particular religion, he plays two countries off against each other, he

:08:35.:08:37.

plays the East India company off against the Crown. At all times you

:08:38.:08:41.

think, which is not going to pull this off, and maybe he doesn't.

:08:42.:08:44.

Apart from that committees are really not the piece of work. He

:08:45.:08:51.

is... But also, he's redeemable. Oh, is he, OK. I think the great thing

:08:52.:08:55.

about television and film is that you have much more time to allow a

:08:56.:08:59.

character to be unsympathetic before they are redeemed. And I think the

:09:00.:09:03.

audience quite enjoy that. But there are eight hours of this, so there's

:09:04.:09:07.

time. We might have to wait some time! What's it like working with an

:09:08.:09:10.

actor like that was like he is totally and utterly convincing,

:09:11.:09:14.

isn't he? He is, I mean, I've worked with him on a couple of things, and

:09:15.:09:18.

as actors should permit he becomes whatever the role this. But it's

:09:19.:09:22.

different with him, I think he's a very fundamental sort of actor. He

:09:23.:09:27.

does go down right to the roots. And I think whether it is training or

:09:28.:09:29.

just something you're born with, when he's on the screen, that's when

:09:30.:09:34.

you know. Now that time and place that you're depicting is

:09:35.:09:39.

particularly interesting for you. There's no escaping how, they were

:09:40.:09:43.

grim, I mean, for an awful lot of people, life was grim, then, wasn't

:09:44.:09:48.

it? Life was hard. It was a time when Great Britain was at war with

:09:49.:09:50.

the United States and with France and at war with pretty much

:09:51.:09:54.

everyone. And within London, which was the capital of the world,

:09:55.:09:58.

effectively, there was a war between the Crown and the East India

:09:59.:10:02.

Company, who with this huge monolithic private company that ran

:10:03.:10:05.

India and run various parts of the world. And it was when the Crown in

:10:06.:10:10.

that year, it was when the Crown took the monopoly away. It's sort of

:10:11.:10:13.

like an explosion happening within the City of London. What I wanted to

:10:14.:10:17.

do was throw a character into that explosion. And the idea originally

:10:18.:10:21.

was something, a conversation that Tom Hardy had had with his dad, was

:10:22.:10:25.

that right? I was invited to meet Tom, I can't when it was, to discuss

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an idea of an adventurer who returns from Africa with secrets. And there

:10:34.:10:36.

was a particular sort of progress of that. I mean, in discussion and in

:10:37.:10:39.

development it changed quite a bit. But during the first meeting, while

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Tom parked his car and I spoke to his manager, I said, would you mind

:10:45.:10:47.

if I spoke to Tom about a film project that I want to do? And it

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transpired he agreed to do the film if I agreed to do Taboo. It's a

:10:52.:10:57.

family affair, his dad is also involved. The idea of the adventurer

:10:58.:11:01.

returning came from discussions between Tom and his dad. And so he

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was involved as well, which was interesting. The market for kind of

:11:09.:11:14.

grim drama seems pretty big at the moment. I'm thinking of some of the

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Scandinavian dramas which have that reputation, you know, a darkness,

:11:19.:11:21.

literally, but also in subject matter

:11:22.:11:26.

it's not something that I necessarily believe is essential. I

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have no quarrel whatsoever with period dramas which are lighter and

:11:32.:11:35.

more romantic, that's great, you know, and it works. But it's almost

:11:36.:11:40.

like a different job in a way. You know, the exploration of damaged

:11:41.:11:44.

souls is part of it, the exploration of damaged societies is part of it.

:11:45.:11:48.

It's just a different thing. And I hope as well that people will find

:11:49.:11:52.

in Taboo there is a lot of humour as well. Tell us about Peaky Blinders?

:11:53.:11:56.

You are behind that as well, a lot of people would have watched it. I

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understand one of your relatives was what we would refer to as a Peaky

:12:02.:12:04.

Blinders, how would you describe them? It was a time in the 20s when

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of track gambling was illegal. Bookmakers were basically doing

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something illegal, so they did other things that were illegal and maybe

:12:14.:12:17.

became gangsters. My mother when she was nine years old was a book is'

:12:18.:12:22.

and. They used children, people would drop their money into the

:12:23.:12:27.

basket. -- e-book is run. My dads uncles were illegal bookmakers. He

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told them stories -- he told stories about them, they were immaculately

:12:35.:12:38.

dressed in an area where nobody have much more money. When he told me as

:12:39.:12:43.

a child, it was glamorous. When I wrote the thing, I decided to keep

:12:44.:12:46.

the mythology, you know, keep it through the eyes of a child. I'm

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curious about that particular image, Tom Hardy. There is a hint of the

:12:51.:12:57.

African he was linked with in the storyline circular yes, what I

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didn't want to do was to say, you know, heart of darkness, he'd come

:13:02.:13:05.

from the darkness of Africa. In actual fact, as the story

:13:06.:13:09.

progresses, we find that he left England very damaged and was curate

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in Africa. So it's the opposite. He has quite a lot of involvement. --

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was curate. In the darkness, literally. Often somebody of his

:13:20.:13:24.

stature will put their name to a TV series and not really be involved,

:13:25.:13:27.

but he was really involved in this and got into the cutting room and

:13:28.:13:31.

put it together. I think it is something that both he and Tom and

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his that myself ready proud of. We have to talk to you about Allied as

:13:36.:13:39.

well, but we've run out of time! Lovely to see you, thank you very

:13:40.:13:41.

much. Taboo starts this Saturday

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at 9:15pm on BBC One. That's all from

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Breakfast this morning. We'll be back tomorrow from 6am.

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