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So, a green light for a third runway at Heathrow. | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
Tonight, a special programmd on what this major | :00:08. | :00:09. | |
Welcome to the programme on a day when the Government has | :00:10. | :00:21. | |
thrown its weight behind expanding Heathrow. | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
It has opted for building another runway there, | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
It's a more expensive option, costing nearly ?18 billion, | :00:29. | :00:36. | |
which would also mean around 80 homes being demolished | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
in the villages of Longford and Harmondsworth. | :00:39. | :00:43. | |
It's worth noting that Parlhament will then vote on this huge decision | :00:44. | :00:46. | |
affecting London at the end of next year at the earliest. | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
Tonight, our reporters are out across the capital getting | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
reaction to this news and the impact on London. | :00:54. | :00:57. | |
Over the next half hour, we'll be live in the villagd | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
of Harmondsworth with residdnts and at Westminster. | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
But first, let's cross to the place which is at the centre of all this, | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
Heathrow, and join our transport correspondent, Tom Edwards. | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
Yes, we're just on the edge of the southern runway. It's extrelely loud | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
and extremely busy. Planes are leaving here every 9 | :01:19. | :01:40. | |
seconds. This airport is full to capacity. The new north-west runway | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
would be just to the north of here, beyond the control tower. You will | :01:47. | :01:52. | |
be able to see the red lights in the distance. This is Cranford, not far | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
from the airport. Over breakfast, most welcome the news today, | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
although most will want somd improvements. A third runwax | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
probably is necessary. You can see there's planes all around. So | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
probably it's a good thing. I think the traffic sometimes is re`lly bad | :02:06. | :02:07. | |
sometimes around Heathrow. Probably it will increase the traffic. So | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
they will need more motorwaxs, more roads? I think so, definitely, they | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
will need more access. It's good for the economy, for business, job wise. | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
I'm glad. Right here is where the new runway will be, and right at the | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
heart of the case for Heathrow, it's been about jobs and the economy And | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
while this is about global connections, it's also a very local | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
story. Many of the top 300 TK companies have headquarters within | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
15 miles of here. We've acttally delayed for far too many ye`rs. That | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
delay has put us behind our competitors in Europe, as ahrports. | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
Its freight companies like this one which give Heathrow the adv`ntage. | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
Its cargo and the combination with passengers which make the ndw long | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
haul routes viable. In 2013, 1. million tonnes of freight c`me | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
through Heathrow, worth ?133 billion. Nearly 80% of all | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
airfreight in the UK. Get qtick deals with a fraction of th`t - | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
100,000 tonnes. The growth that the UK needs, we are now looking at a | :03:19. | :03:21. | |
global market rather than jtst a European market. Most of th`t trade | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
will be with Europe, obviously, but the new, emerging markets of the | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
world need to be connected, and Heathrow is the appropriate airport. | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
Members were reminded of thd County Court in long tradition of | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
resistance... History shows that politics and runways do not mix | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
There have been proposals bdfore. In fact, no full-length runway has been | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
built in the south-east since the 1940s. As well as local opposition | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
at Heathrow, the extra cost for road and rail links varies betwedn 5 | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
billion and 20 being pounds, and it includes putting the M25 into a | :04:01. | :04:03. | |
tunnel. And it's not clear who will pay for it. The big variabld on the | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
Heathrow side is the motorw`ys. Their proposal envisages thd M2 | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
being put into a tunnel. Thdy will want to look at whether that can be | :04:15. | :04:18. | |
done more cheaply or efficidntly. Can we get more people onto the rail | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
or chew? That would be a far better solution, if we can do that instead. | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
A final decision on Heathrow remains years away. Expect challengds and | :04:27. | :04:35. | |
consultation. Businesses don't like that. And while some say it will | :04:36. | :04:41. | |
never be built, others say post-Brexit, a third runway is | :04:42. | :04:42. | |
needed more than ever. Let's hear now from the Mayor | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
of London, Sadiq Khan, Good evening to you. So, businesses | :04:50. | :05:02. | |
and saying, if we needed thhs before, then post-Brexit, wd needed | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
more than ever - do you agrde? I speak to businesses all the time. | :05:07. | :05:10. | |
You know what they need post-Brexit? Access to a single market. Xou know | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
what they need post-Brexit? The passport of financial services. They | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
also need the ability to attract talent. As a pro-business m`yor I | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
am lobbying the gun and to help me be business friendly, post-Brexit. | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
These plans are wrong for London, and one for the whole country. But | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
do you accept that the Gatwhck option will not create as m`ny jobs, | :05:36. | :05:40. | |
and not as much growth? I'vd looked carefully at all the options, and if | :05:41. | :05:43. | |
the Government was to give the green light to Gatwick, it leads to jobs, | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
growth, no public subsidy, the runway could be up and readx in the | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
middle of the next Parliament. Local councils want it, there are no noise | :05:53. | :05:58. | |
concerns, no air quality issues and a better Gatwick leads to more | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
competition for a better, r`ther than a bigger Heathrow. It hs a | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
win-win. Those at quality and noise pollution issues, they were still | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
there when you backed Heathrow development as Transport Secretary | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
in a previous Labour governlent We rehearsed these arguments dtring the | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
mayoral election. In 2014, `fter we lost the election, there was a | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
judgment which said that thd air was in breach of the air qualitx | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
directive. In 2014, after wd lost the election, 9400 Londoners died | :06:30. | :06:35. | |
because of poor air quality. There are children today whose lungs are | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
undeveloped cause of poor ahr quality. As we speak there `re more | :06:40. | :06:46. | |
people affected by noise, bx two runways, then are affected by the | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
airport in Paris, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Munich and Madrid | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
combined. That's before a ndw runway. Are you saying you don't | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
believe the Transport Secretary and the Government when they sax they | :06:57. | :06:59. | |
are confident they can deal with these environment issues, or the | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
independent commission which looked at some of these things in detail | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
for two years? I think the reality is that they've underestimated | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
concerns around air quality, concerns around noise pollution but | :07:12. | :07:19. | |
also, as you touched upon in your report, the transport changds needed | :07:20. | :07:22. | |
for a new runway at Heathrow, the re-routing of the tunnel, the A , | :07:23. | :07:29. | |
the rail links, cost ?15 billion. Who is going to pay for that? If you | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
feel that strongly, will yot be backing the four Tory-led councils | :07:35. | :07:37. | |
in their legal challenge, pttting your money where your mouth is, if | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
you like? It's not my money, it is London taxpayers' money. But I can | :07:43. | :07:48. | |
speak to those councils. We are exploring legal options. My primary | :07:49. | :07:51. | |
concern is the well-being of Londoners. I think runway three does | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
not help the health of Londoners, it is not help those communitids | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
regarding noise. I will be working with them to explore all legal | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
options. The previous Mayor of London threatened to lie down in | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
front of the bulldozers - what will you be doing in practical tdrms | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
other than talking to those councils? Well, let's talk first to | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
see how we can work together to explore the legal options. H think | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
the Government needs to unddrstand that at the moment, there is a court | :08:21. | :08:26. | |
case being taken challenging the Government's lack of action in | :08:27. | :08:30. | |
relation to Eric quality. I am an interested party in that ch`llenge. | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
I have announced a bold and ambitious plan to clean up the | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
airing London. I'm not being helped by these plans for Heathrow. Many | :08:38. | :08:38. | |
thanks for your time this evening. Well, people in one of the villages | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
which will be hugely affectdd by a third runway have also been | :08:45. | :08:46. | |
vocal about today's news. Let's find get more | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
from Alice Bhandhukravi, who is The words grief and bereavelent have | :08:50. | :09:04. | |
been used here today in reaction to the news that many of the homes and | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
businesses here will have to be demolished. There is a spechal | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
church service going on in the church behind me for local people, | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
and earlier today, I spoke to some of them as they faced the prospect | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
of losing their homes. We'vd been in this position now since the early | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
1990s. We actually lost a s`le of the house back in the late dight | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
years, wasn't it? Yes. And that was because of the threat of another | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
runway. Phil and Veronica h`ve lived here for more than 40 years. A new | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
what to expect of today's ddcision and are very clear about whx it was | :09:41. | :09:46. | |
made. It is business that h`s driven this, business have chucked the | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
money at it, business have wined and dined everybody. Harmondsworth is | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
their home. Heathrow, the thorn in their side. I don't trust ddmocracy | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
any more. A sentiment echoed by the local vicar. I think it goes a long | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
way to really tell us that politicians are never to be trusted. | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
Just a few streets down, Rox, the farmer whose family have bedn | :10:11. | :10:12. | |
working this land for six generations. A third runway will | :10:13. | :10:19. | |
plough straight through this field. It's very easy to wake up at four | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
o'clock in the morning and have the four o'clock flight, when you think | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
you're going to be evicted out of your home, out of your vill`ge, out | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
of an area where you've livdd for many years. The best thing to do is | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
to fight back, that's the w`y I feel about it. And I shall stay here to | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
the end and I shall fight thll the last man and the last round of | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
ammunition, if you like. It will come as no surprise that Rox fought | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
in the cavalry in the Second World War. He's made strong stuff. I want | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
to see my grandchildren, wh`tever happens, I want to see them settle | :10:54. | :10:59. | |
somewhere. For myself, I sh`ll stay here until the end, and if they want | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
to carry me out, that's absolutely fine. But I shall stay here until | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
the end. So, a very clear shtuation for those residents. But I `m joined | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
by two residents for whom things are a little bit less clear. First of | :11:15. | :11:19. | |
all come Steve - you had a long career working in air freight | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
services, so you know the ilportance of Heathrow airport, and yet you | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
live here in Harmondsworth `nd your home is going to be destroydd - how | :11:30. | :11:34. | |
is today's news for you? I think it's something we've been expecting | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
for a long time. With working at the airport, I can't deny, Heathrow | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
airport has been kind to me in terms of my career in air freight | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
transport. But ever since I've lived in this locality, I've seen the rise | :11:49. | :11:51. | |
of terminal four, then I've seen Terminal 5 being built. So H've | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
watched a gradual expansion of Heathrow over the years. And I've | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
always felt that a third runway all a further expansion was immhnent, it | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
was always going happen. Is it tricky living in this village and | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
having these opinions? I thhnk we've got split opinions. I know there's a | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
lot of outrage against the `irport expansion. But some people `re of | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
the same mindset as me - let's get it over and done with. Thank you | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
very much for talking to us. Alan, you're also in an unusual shtuation. | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
You are not going to have your home demolished, but you live on the | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
perimeter of the third runw`y, and as such, do you get compens`tion? | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
They've offered sound insul`tion and possibly buying the house. Don't | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
know yet. But that's not thd issue, we want to save the village and save | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
the community. It is not my intention to look for compensation | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
at the moment. Will you stax on I don't know, I hope so. We still hope | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
we will beat it, we're still fairly sure we will beat it. But I would | :12:56. | :13:01. | |
hope to stay on, yes. Thank you very much for talking to us. A complex | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
situation and still a lot more to investigate and to happen in the | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
coming years. But certainly a fighting spirit from here in | :13:09. | :13:20. | |
Harmondsworth. Let's turn to some of the other news today now. | :13:21. | :13:23. | |
A seven-mile stretch of the M4 heading towards London had to be | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
closed for most of the day after a lorry spilt | :13:27. | :13:28. | |
diesel over the road near the Hogarth roundabout. | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
It happened in the early hours of this morning, | :13:31. | :13:32. | |
causing huge queues in west and south-west London as a result. | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
Watford FC says it is conducting an internal investigation | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
following newspaper allegathons of financial wrongdoing whilst | :13:39. | :13:40. | |
The club says it had no prior knowledge of any concerns | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
about the authenticity of a document submitted by current | :13:45. | :13:46. | |
owner Gino Pozzo prior to the 2014-15 season. | :13:47. | :13:51. | |
Football fans will face enh`nced security checks when West H`m host | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
The match is deemed high-risk because of a history of anilosity | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
between supporters and problems at the stadium since the Halmers | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
After the fanfare of West H`m moving into their shiny new stadiul, the | :14:05. | :14:18. | |
reality of their new home is this. The fans are fighting amongst | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
themselves. There's people walking up with their kids crying. Trouble | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
has broken out at a number of fixtures. 23 banning orders have | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
been issued, nine arrests m`de. The Chelsea fixture is considerdd their | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
first high risk local derby. But even Hammers boss Slaven Bilic is | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
tired of answering questions on this topic. I am facing those kind of | :14:40. | :14:47. | |
questions week in, week out. All we can do is try to play good football | :14:48. | :14:51. | |
against Chelsea, in the London derby. It's a big name. Stadium | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
bosses have announced an enhanced body such policy for fans on | :14:56. | :15:02. | |
arrival, an alcohol ban frol mobile bars around the stadium and police | :15:03. | :15:04. | |
deployed within the stadium if required. The Met are still waiting | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
to install the permanent signal for its complications system at the | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
ground. A to Brewery solution has been agreed for tomorrow night all | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
fans have been advised to arrive early. -- a temporary soluthon. | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
Returning to that Heathrow decision now, and the news that Consdrvative | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
MP for Richmond Zac Goldsmith, a high-profile opponent | :15:27. | :15:28. | |
of Heathrow expansion, has resigned from the party. | :15:29. | :15:30. | |
Let's get more in this from our political | :15:31. | :15:32. | |
Karl - what has Zac Goldsmith had to say? | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
This evening, what we've had is the rarer occurrence of a polithcian | :15:40. | :15:45. | |
actually sticking to the promises they've made. Eight years ago, Zach | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Goldsmith was selected as the candidate here in Richmond Park and | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
he said, of the Government go ahead with the third runway, I will resign | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
my seat and trigger a by-eldction. About 20 minutes ago, he cale here | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
to Barnes primary school and spoke to about 30 of his local association | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
members and said, I'm going to stick to my promise and was very scathing | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
about the Government's decision describing it as a millstond around | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
their neck. This is what he had to say. Today, as you know, I have to | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
honour my promise, and so I've resigned as your member of | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
Parliament and I will be st`nding in the by-election as an indepdndent | :16:25. | :16:27. | |
candidate. I know that therd will be some who see the Government's | :16:28. | :16:33. | |
decision today not as the ottrage that it is but as an opporttnity to | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
advance their party interests. But this election must be a refdrendum | :16:37. | :16:41. | |
on Heathrow expansion. It is our chance to send a message to | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
government and to Heathrow via the ballot box. So I'm asking you to | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
give me the mandate I need to continue fighting this fight. Thank | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
you. We're hearing tonight that the Conservatives will not put tp a | :16:58. | :17:00. | |
candidate to stand against Zac Goldsmith in that by-election? Yes. | :17:01. | :17:05. | |
I think that is a simple decision on the numbers. They have lookdd at | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
Zach Cole Smith's majority, currently 23,000, which went up by | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
18,000 at the last election, the biggest increase across the country. | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
I have looked at it and thotght this man will probably win `s an | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
independent. They've also thought, if we stick up a candidate, might we | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
let in the Lib Dems, who usdd to hold this seat for 13 years until | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
Zac Goldsmith won it in 2010. They will be aware that four loc`l | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
Conservative councils are planning legal action, and that Zac Goldsmith | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
has a lot of support in the local party here. More than 30 local | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
councillors have said they will go out and campaign for him. M`ny in | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
the room tonight say they whll do the same, campaigning for an | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
independent, even though thdy are Conservatives. They will face a | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
stiff challenge from the Liberal Democrats. We spoke to their | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
candidate earlier today... H think you can't trust the Conserv`tives on | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
this. They have said in the past, no ifs, no buts, no third runw`y, and | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
now they've gone back on th`t. Theresa May herself promised not to | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
expand Heathrow, and now shd has. The Liberal Democrats have been | :18:14. | :18:16. | |
completely consistent on thhs over many decades and we will continue to | :18:17. | :18:19. | |
fight Heathrow expansion in whichever way we can. So, the battle | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
lines are drawn. The Lib Dels, campaigning against Heathrow | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
expansion, and Zac Goldsmith doing exactly the same. When will it be? | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
We're expecting some time probably at the start of December. K`rl | :18:34. | :18:34. | |
Mercer, thank you very much. Well, on that note, our polhtical | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
editor, Tim Donovan, is in Westminster looking | :18:39. | :18:40. | |
at the potential political | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
ramifications of today's evdnts Let's get some reaction str`ightaway | :18:46. | :18:55. | |
from the Conservative MP for neighbouring Twickenham. But first, | :18:56. | :19:01. | |
Kwasi Kwarteng, LP for Spelthorne, friend of Zac Goldsmith but someone | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
who backs Heathrow expansion. What do you make of the fact that he has | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
gone ahead with his pledge to stand down but to stand as an inddpendent? | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
How think it's a great shamd that he felt that he had to leave the | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
Conservative Party. But obvhously, he made undertakings to his | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
constituents, and as a man of his word, he felt honour bound to resign | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
and stand again as an indepdndent. To do it straightaway and not wait | :19:26. | :19:29. | |
until a vote in a year's tile and cause this politically awkw`rd | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
by-election? I think Zac Goldsmith is someone who is a man of his word. | :19:34. | :19:38. | |
He sticks to what he says. H think it made sense for him, if hd was | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
going to resign, to do it today because this was when the bhg | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
announcement was made. You have on record recently said that you would | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
back his decision to do what he has done, and is that the case? Yes | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
I've always said exactly thd same, Zach Paul Smith is a man of his | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
word, he's honouring his plddge and I back him in that. We are both | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
trying to do the best for otr constituents and for London. And | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
Heathrow is not the answer. That's what this election should bd about. | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
So you back his decision, do you back him in this by-election | :20:11. | :20:14. | |
standing as an independent, not as a Conservative? Ryback him because it | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
is about Heathrow and Heathrow not being the answer. 1 million people | :20:18. | :20:24. | |
are going to be affect it, `nd there will be consultation on scrttiny but | :20:25. | :20:27. | |
I think it is very noble of Zac Goldsmith to put his marker down. | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
Does it make you feel that xou're being less noble, given that you're | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
not doing the same thing? I have always said as candidate and as MP, | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
I've always said I will fight as the MP and I would not resign. H've | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
already done a lot about He`throw's noise levels, I've already | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
challenged the Government and the secretaries of state about the | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
environment or pollution - H will continue to do that. Heathrow needs | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
to be better, not bigger fish for me, the fight was going to carry on | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
regardless of today's decishon. Do you think we've heard the | :21:02. | :21:04. | |
Conservatives are not going to put up a candidate against him , do you | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
think that is the right dechsion? I'm not sure. I'm not privy to those | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
decisions. What do you think of it? I think that it makes sense. Zac | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
Goldsmith is a popular membdr of Parliament, and he said cle`rly that | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
he would step down on this hssue. The party may feel that thex don't | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
want to give so much publichty to the fight against him. And H believe | :21:28. | :21:29. | |
he has the backing of his local party. So for the party to hmpose | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
another candidate would be difficult. On the substantive issue, | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
why do you believe it will be any more likely that we can delhver | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
Heathrow now than it proved a few years ago? There is a big fdnce - | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
the Government has now made a decision and is showing leadership. | :21:47. | :21:50. | |
-- there is a big differencd. We have 12 years of prevaricathon. It | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
was in 2003 after all that the Labour government put forward that | :21:55. | :21:56. | |
white paper which recommenddd expanding Heathrow. And 13 xears | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
later we've actually got a Prime Minister who has had the cotrage to | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
press on with it. And we've had the Davies Commission, which cost ? 0 | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
million and came up with very much the same answer. What is thdre in | :22:10. | :22:16. | |
that logic that you can't sde? What I see is the data since those years, | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
the data getting stronger and stronger, showing us not just about | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
air pollution, but about nohse pollution and the medical effects. | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
Since 2003, we have evidencd of noise pollution affecting children's | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
reading comp retention and long term memory. That's why I asked the | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
Secretary of State today... Things are different? They are not. George | :22:38. | :22:43. | |
Osborne, the last Chancellor, Chancellor for six years, c`me out a | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
few weeks ago and said, we should get on with Heathrow. The problem | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
is, we've got to do something, we can't just pretend that there is not | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
kind to be any economic growth and people will not be able to travel. | :22:55. | :22:59. | |
All the objections to airport expansion will be repeated hn | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
Gatwick, in the estuary, amdnities will be affected and will fdel that | :23:04. | :23:06. | |
they do not want to proceed. Heathrow is number one, it has a | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
proven track record, internationally, and we want to | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
consolidate that position. Hn this instance, you're going to gdt the | :23:15. | :23:17. | |
last word, we are out of tile! Back to you. | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
Well, let's not forget Gatwhck was the other option the Government | :23:23. | :23:24. | |
had to increase aviation capacity in the South-East. | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
And whilst some residents s`y they're relieved at today's | :23:30. | :23:31. | |
decision, others have vowed to continue to fight for Gatwick | :23:32. | :23:33. | |
It is Britain's busiest single runway airport. Gatwick had wanted | :23:34. | :23:46. | |
another runway, and campaigned hard, saying it would be quicker `nd | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
cheaper. The option may havd been rejected by the Government, but | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
bosses at Gatwick say they will continue to lobby for a second | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
runway. Personally I don't think that a runway will be delivdred at | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
Heathrow in my lifetime. We feel as though we put forward a verx strong | :24:03. | :24:05. | |
case for Gatwick expansion which was the best case. But one thing is for | :24:06. | :24:09. | |
certain, what we will do is to maintain our offer to government. | :24:10. | :24:15. | |
Gatwick has a very credible will come as a blow to many businesses in | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
the south-east. A second runway at Gatwick was projected to le`d to | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
30,000 jobs by 2050. But for campaigners across Kent and Sussex | :24:24. | :24:26. | |
who are against the expansion, anxious about noise and pollution, | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
there was relief but no celdbration. There's been no cheering today. We | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
are relieved, very relieved but we do not wish it on anybody. We've | :24:35. | :24:39. | |
always said we should use the spare capacity at the airports whhch exist | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
in the north. The facts spoke for themselves, we are delighted the | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
minister has listened to thd facts. We have to keep campaigning... So, a | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
decision by the Government hn the great runway debate, but thd | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
campaign more for and against look set to continue. | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
Let's get a check on the we`ther now, with Jay Wynne. | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
Starting with the satellite sequence it shows that we started off rather | :25:10. | :25:21. | |
cloudy. Early rain soon fizzled out. Pretty quiet for the first part of | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
the night. We got light winds, and with that comes the risk of some fog | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
developing by the end of thd night, all to the west of London. Some of | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
that could be quite dense. Temperatures will not be dropping | :25:35. | :25:39. | |
away too far. But the fog could be quite dense as I say, with | :25:40. | :25:41. | |
visibility up and down tomorrow morning. Bear that in mind hf you're | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
up and about. It will shift eventually, and by the afternoon it | :25:48. | :25:55. | |
looks pretty good. With the south-westerly breeze, it whll be | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
very mild. Heading out for the evening, no problem with we`ther. We | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
keep that gentle south-westdrly breeze and there will be variable | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
amounts of cloud overnight. Thursday looks like a pretty decent day, | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
settled with high pressure hn charge. However, early in the | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
morning on Thursday, there hs the risk of some fork. It is a pretty | :26:20. | :26:27. | |
decent afternoon once again, and still quite mild. Not a gre`t deal | :26:28. | :26:35. | |
of change as we head towards the end of the week. May be some fork to | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
start. And by the afternoon, mostly fine and dry. | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
A final thought on the Government's decision to give the go-ahe`d | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
Let's go back to our transport correspondent Tom Edwards, | :26:47. | :26:52. | |
What struck me was how we are seeing infrastructure now through the lens | :26:53. | :27:04. | |
of Brexit. Listen to what the Government had to say - this is a | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
central part of the Governmdnt's plan to build a global Brit`in. The | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
problem with that is, the opposition is still huge and it is still | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
influential, like Zac Goldslith That means we could have potentially | :27:17. | :27:19. | |
years of legal challenges and consultations. I don't think this is | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
the end at all. This is just another beginning. Tom, thank you. | :27:26. | :27:31. | |
More reaction on that Heathrow decision on our website | :27:32. | :27:33. | |
I'll be back later during the Ten O'Cclock News. | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
From all the team here, thanks for joining us, | :27:38. | :27:40. |