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Good evening and welcome to BBC Look North. The headlines tonight...

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A month after the budget, the backlash begins over tax on pies

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and caravans. This is a mistake, it will decimate

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the industry. We do until the country is in a

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better position. In the Commons, local MPs are about

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to put the case for East Yorkshire's caravan industry.

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the Government's holding firm. It is a right that we tried to have

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a level playing field with an a our tax system.

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By-law be assessing a day of protest and debate live from

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Westminster. Remembering the Lincolnshire

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Vulcan's bombing raid on the Falklands 30 years ago today.

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Why this young musician doesn't have to blow his own trumpet.

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And a wet night developing in places, the Met Office have a

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warning in places. Some of the rain could be heavy and thundery,

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especially at first. Join me for Good evening. The Treasury Minister

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has told Look North that he is listening to concerns about VAT on

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static caravans, but at the same time the Government is committed to

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a level playing field on the whole issue of VAT. Tonight MPs from East

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Yorkshire and Lincolnshire are raising the issue in a Commons

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debate. There are fears that it could lead to thousands of job

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losses. It comes at the end of a day which has seen renewed protests

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against the Chancellor's plans. We are live at Westminster in a few

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moments, but first our Political Editor, Tim Iredale, has this

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report. As MPs prepare to debate the so-

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called caravan tax, of the Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg, Dodge

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protesters, as he met with the Institute of Directors in Hull City

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-- in Hull, a city which many claim will be hit hardest by the measure.

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The deal was very factual and genuine.

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He has taken that away, there has been an extensive consultation

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period for the caravans, and he has said proved to me the impact you

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think it is having, fat Julie, and that is what we will go away and

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work with partners to put that to him, so we can walk into George

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Osborne and David Cameron and prove our point. A national Caravan

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Council estimates up to 7,000 jobs could be lost in manufacturing, the

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supply chain and the holiday industry if VAT is levied on static

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caravans. Labour have accused the Government of underestimating the

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impact. We are in a double-dip recession.

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This could be point one of Plan B. Not introducing VAT on static

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caravans on the head, that is part of Plan B, really. The But today

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the Treasury minister told Look North that the Government won't

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ignore its critics. We do think it is right we tried to

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deal with static caravans fairly and consistently with other

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products, but obviously we want to listen to concerns about the impact

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and we want to listen to exactly how this would work, what the

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border line would be. Earlier in the day, there was a very different

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VAT protest at Downing Street over the so-called pasty tax. Members of

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the Lincolnshire-based family bakery Pocklington's travelled to

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the capital to call on the Government to look again at moves

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to add VAT on freshly-baked products, such as pies and sausage

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rolls. Where it will penalise our

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customers is when they buy a family steak pie, take it warm and warm it

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up for their banner. A lot of people are looking at cheaper ways

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of eating, eating out less and cooking at home, they cumin and by

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apartheid that has just commit of the oven to eat at night and they

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will have to pay 20 % VAT on it. Ministers say the controversial VAT

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changes are about ironing out anomalies in the tax system, but

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that seems to be little consolation to those who took part in a day of

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protest at Westminster. Tim is live in the Central Lobby of

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the Houses of Parliament for us this evening. Where does this leave

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us over this whole issue of VAT on static caravans?

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Now, Peter, MPs from different parties and different backgrounds,

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from different parts of the country, are standing in the Chamber of the

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House of Commons to tell the Government exactly what they can do

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with their so-called caravan tax. Tonight's debate was secured by

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Graham Stuart, Conservative MP for Beverley and wholeness. He raised

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the issue, not just the effect on manufacturing, but also the effect

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on tourism. A two or three out of every ten

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people going into the bakery down the road and spending money in the

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pubs, the importance of rural visitors to the economy away from

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those directly employed in the manufacture, however important they

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are, is immense, and I think that is why there was such a groundswell

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saying this is an issue that should be reconsidered.

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A Graham Stuart speaking in the past half-hour. Last week's stock

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the biggest Conservative rebellion since the vote on student tuition

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fees. The Government won the vote on VAT on static caravans, but only

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by a slim majority of 25. Four Tory MPs from East you pinch -- East

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Yorkshire and Lincolnshire rebelled. MPs say this debate is all about

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sending a further message to the Government. They believe this is

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attacks on jobs. The minister today told BBC look north that they

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believe the Government is listening, and MPs want to see actions backed

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with words. Health workers in Lincolnshire say

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they will fight plans which would see them paid less than colleagues

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in the South of England. The Health Secretary Andrew Lansley says

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nurses and hospital porters should have higher salaries if they live

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in more expensive areas of the country. Mr Lansley has been on a

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private visit to the Pilgrim Hospital in Boston this afternoon.

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Tarah Welsh reports. Other old key protest, but feelings

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are running high. -- a low-key protest. The Health Secretary did

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not see their signs, but they told me plans for low wages are run in

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sold. Nick Charlton from Boston has been a nurse for 15 years. He says

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his profession is being attacked. We already have the pay freeze for

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the last three years, we have the attack on our pensions coming in,

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which will cost us more money and balance that against energy, petrol,

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food prices going up. The Government proposes healthcare

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workers input or areas will be paid less. In Greater London the average

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house price is around �406,000, in Boston it is 135,000. To reflect

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that, nurses will be paid less in places like Lincolnshire.

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They are doing the same job, so why should they get more money?

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The tis cheaper to live around here, but it to is a very demanding job,

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so I think they should be paid fairly.

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It is all very well, but with zoned pay, fuel is not zoned, shopping is

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not zoned. The does a lot more expensive than

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London and we need NHS workers. A some parts of the South will be

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more expensive than the north. I'd think people should be paid

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according to their ability to work. Do the man in charge of health in

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Boston borough council told me the proposals were fair.

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In the inner London area it is very expensive indeed, so pay rates have

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to reflect the cost of living in what are the area of the country

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you are living in. We had had a lot of problems recruiting people, so

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if we bring regional pay to Lincolnshire, I think the people of

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Lincolnshire will be majorly disadvantaged.

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We will have major problems trying to attract staff from larger cities

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to Lincolnshire. Nurses say there were wages would

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bring down their standard of living and the standard of staff willing

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to come to work here. I'm joined by David Kirwan from

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UNISON, which represents health workers in Boston. Good evening.

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Why shouldn't you colleagues in the very expensive South be paid more

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than those in the cheaper at areas of the country?

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I think all of amid members do the same job and did deserve the same

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payment. Regional pay would make it almost impossible to recruit into

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this area of the country. Lincolnshire and Boston in

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particular are likely to be areas considered to be less expensive to

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live in and pay would be reduced. By the average house price is

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�135,000 in Boston, �406,000 in London. You don't think they

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deserve more in the South? Bar at think you would be hard pressed to

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find a nurse in London living in afford hundred and �6,000 house.

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The nurses are priced out of London and have to go to a plain areas to

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live. I think in Boston other expensive and people's lifestyles

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counteract the difference in housing costs, such as transport.

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Very good transport systems in London, not sought in Lincolnshire.

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The only a handful of people protested against Mr Lansley today,

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that shows a lack of interest in the issue, doesn't it?

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Not at all, that shows that Andrew Lansley kept his whereabouts are

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very secret and did not reveal any timings for is that it. He actually

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cancelled the visit overnight and rescheduled it this morning. A lot

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of our supporters felt the visit had been cancelled. Those on

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regional pacy it is an effective use of NHS funds. You are good at -

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- you agree with that? No, it is not, because it means all

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the best staff will be in the same areas where they can get higher pay.

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In Boston in particular, if staff go down the road to Cambridge they

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will be paid more. The by queue for talking to us tonight.

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-- thank you for talking to us. And we'd love to hear your thoughts

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on this story. What do you think? Is it fair that nurses in Boston

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and other rural areas should be People in the fastest growing town

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in East Yorkshire say they have concerns about a major new

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development. Hundreds of houses are planned for land near the BAE

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systems factory in Brough, which is closing down. The plans were

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discussed by East Riding Council this afternoon. There will also be

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a new hotel and business park, as Vicky Johnson reports.

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Housing for jobs? No, very short term. Not strategic at all. I think

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it is a good thing, yes. It will bring more people to the village.

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Mixed reaction to a �100 million housing project planned for Brough.

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If approved, around 750 homes will be built on this land near the BAE

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systems factory. There will also be a hotel, a nursery and shops and

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offices. Developers say the development should create 700 new

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jobs. But campaigners are against There are two major objections in

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terms of schooling and traffic. The education system in this part of

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the East Yorkshire is already overloaded. These 700,000 houses

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will probably generate some 1,400 or 1,500 cars. -- these 700 houses.

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These will probably end up on the main road, which is already heavily

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congested. BAE Systems, a major employer in the town, recently

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announced it would end manufacturing at its Brough site

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with the loss of more than 800 jobs. Rather than create work there are

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fears the development would in fact adversely affect small businesses.

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It is not just the residential development, it is a big commercial

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development, and I believe it is too big for this village, and we

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have a negative impact on small businesses like ours, and like this

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cafe, for instance. East Riding of Yorkshire Council have this

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afternoon agreed to the plans but they now need to go to the

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Secretary of state for final approval.

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Of course we will follow that story. Thank you for watching.

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Still ahead tonight... And the young musician who's

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blowing away the competition. Bob Wallis took this of the Far

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Bob Wallis took this of the Far Ings Natures Reserve at Barton.

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If you have a picture you are proud of, please send it in.

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Good evening. Our favourite e-mail from Beaumaris it today, I would

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like to know why Paul big nose Louth and refuses to name a but

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fantastic town. -- ignores. Do you are going there next month,

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our review, Peter? Yes, Monday the 14th, if memory

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serves. Do you know how to get their?

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At the you want to give the The warning is in place yet again,

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especially for parts of Lincolnshire, the Met Office

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warning it could cause localised flooding. Tomorrow a slow

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improvement, East Yorkshire could get better, but patchy rain of one

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on a cross parts of Lincolnshire -- off and on. It will bring patchy

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rain across Lincolnshire, this front, whereas across East

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Yorkshire we're hoping things will be a little better. Low pressure is

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very much in charge again. Thunderstorms pushing up from the

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south-west. It has been bright at times, sunny intervals, but this is

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an area of heavy rain that will gradually push across most places

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this evening and overnight. Heavy downpours scattered at first a

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cross Lincolnshire, rain gathering across East Yorkshire, pushing

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southwards, reaching most parts with the exception, perhaps, of the

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Wash, we will seek temperatures of six or seven Celsius by dawn. Sun

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rising at 533 am. It is a grey, damp, chilly start with outbreaks

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of rain across all parts. A bit of a clearance across East Yorkshire

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trying to get across Lincolnshire, but patchy rain never far away. All

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probably a little better across the East. -- hopefully. It will be a

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cooler feel with a moderate, northerly wind. Saturday looks

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better after a damp start, becoming mostly dry, but then the wet and

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very windy develop -- weather develops on Sunday. That is the

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develops on Sunday. That is the forecast.

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The Two people have been seriously injured in a crash in East

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Yorkshire. A military vehicle was involved in the collision at

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Swinefleet near Goole this afternoon. Our reporter, Emma

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Massey, is live near the scene. Emma, what can you see?

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Eye among the A-road 61, a long straight road with deep ditches on

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either side. I am around 400 yards away from the accident. -- the A61.

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Sorry about that, the line to Swinefleet was not very good. We

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will get more to you later. One of the longest distance bombing

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missions in aviation history has been remembered today. 30 years ago,

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during the Falklands war, the RAF's Vulcan bomber flew from RAF

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Waddington in Lincolnshire - almost 4,000 miles - to bomb the runway at

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Port Stanley. This morning crew members from that mission gathered

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at Robin Hood Airport, where the last flying Vulcan is based. Dan

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Johnson reports. The Vulcan bomber, on show today to

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remember a Mark -- remarkable mission. 30 years ago it was months

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from being scrapped when the Falklands war brought a new lease

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of life. It was to fly to the Falklands and bombed the runway at

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Port Stanley saw it could not be used by Argentinian jets. It would

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be the longest bombing raid in history.

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Suddenly to be called up to drop conventional bombs on a

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sophisticated, modern enemy in a big, slow, vulnerable Vulcan, the

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bombing Agassi was abysmal, really. We did not think we would be called

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upon to do it. But they did. At RAF Waddington

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plans were furiously drawn up. Planes were a degraded and at the

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crew had to be trained. The Royal Air Force had never been

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a to the fore once in its life. There were no maps of how to get

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their! They use a base at Ascension Island

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as a staging-post, but the distance was still beyond the Vulcans' range,

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so a set of 11 tanker planes were needed to refuel in the air.

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There was a crew of five in the cramped Cockpit and it is a journey

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of 8,000 miles to the Falklands and back. It was a 16 hour round trip.

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The buyer was not aware of feeling particular retired because it was

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all new and quite exciting. It was not until they had all gone and

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suddenly we were on our own that the realisation came that we were

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going into attack an airfield, which we had never done before,

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that we were starting off the Laura, if you like. And they started on

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the front foot, making it to Port Stanley, dropping their bombs and

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hitting the runway. Few the airport buildings were skeletons blown

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apart by British bombardment. It was an incredible aviation

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achievement and made it more difficult for the Argentinian jets

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to attack British ships that were heading to the Falklands.

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Today, there is just one from -- Vulcan left flying. The mission has

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changed, but the same Pru is still at the controls. When you hear it

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is a unique sound, a particular hole only this aeroplane does. To

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hear that is what generations ought to be able to hear in the future.

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The key being at flying costs millions every year. Today's test

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flight means thousands more can enjoy that the unique sound at beer

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shows this summer. -- air shows. The lot of people interested and

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remembering that bombing raid at Port Stanley 30 years ago today.

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Thank you for all your emails, texts, tweets and messages after we

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told you that Hull City council had been forced to apologise to parents

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across the city for any confusion over primary school places. Emails

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have been sent to some parents in error, telling them which school

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their children will go to, while other parents are still waiting for

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news. One mum has said she is so angry she might home-school instead.

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We talked about this on the radio, as well, and there was a big

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response. A big and mixed response response. A big and mixed response

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from you on this. Steve in Hull says, "My daughter is due to start

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in September and we have an email saying she has not got into the

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same school as her older brother. This means that one child will be

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late for school everyday and one child will be left waiting at home

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time until I get there." And Rob in Louth agrees. He says, "I think

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it's unacceptable the way parents have been kept in the dark over the

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school places and certainly coming down to having to have third choice

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school should never happen." But Lee from Hull thinks, "Parents

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really need to stop moaning about what school their kids go to. Their

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kids will get free education. And having a little tantrum about it is

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Baku for all of those e-mails and texts after the programme last

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night. -- thank you. The music pupil from Hull is at --

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has been given the chance to see his composition turned into an

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orchestral arrangement. He is one of 10 winners of a national

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competition. He will get to work with professional musicians before

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it is played at the Royal Opera House in London.

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It is a normal Thursday lunchtime orchestra practice at St Mary's

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College in Hull. One member of the class has composed a piece of music

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that will be performed for a completely different stage. 15-

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year-old de Gaulle has composed a fanfare for the Royal Opera House

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in Covent Garden, London. -- Diego. It will be played to modify people

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when a performance is about to That started it as a tango, but it

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developed into a fanfare. A pittance and South American guitar,

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and summed some of -- trumpets like you would expect in a tango. It is

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mainly for full orchestra. But, the exciting bits is yet to come. This

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is the third here of the competition, and as part of the

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price he will get to work with renowned composer Duncan jump and,

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who incidentally lives in look and -- Lincolnshire. They will get the

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arrangement ready to be recorded by the full orchestra of the Royal

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Opera House. The I can't get it into my head I am working with

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someone that fairness. I think it is brilliant, it will be

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inspirational for him to see his own work in the hands of

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professionals, the music technicians as well as the expert

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composers. It will be wonderful to see it coming through in a

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professional standard. This is just the beginning for him, really, at

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what a start. It is onwards and upwards and we will offer as much

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support as we possibly can, and hopefully we have a top composer on

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our hands. All 10 it will finish their recordings on tenth June.

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Fantastic, a great story, well done to him. If you have a story you

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think we should know about, they of as first, send me an e-mail and let

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us know. -- think of us first. Let's look at the main regional and

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national headlines tonight. Rupert Murdoch tells the Leveson

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Inquiry he did not know about the phone hacking scandal because his

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staff hid the extent of the illegal behaviour.

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Banned the Treasury minister has told the BBC look north he is

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listening to concerns about VAT on static caravans.

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Back to that story, and tonight a debate is being held on the issue

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in the House of Commons. Amid political editor is back with us.

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What has been said so far? Per in the past hour a procession

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of MPs from all sides have stood up to criticise their caravan tax.

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Let's hear from former Labour Cabinet minister, Alan Johnson, the

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MP for Hull West. There are a number of caravan manufacturers in

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his consistency, and he was talking about fears voiced by the business

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community. Da I spoke to Lord Haskins this

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afternoon, the chair of the Local Enterprise Partnership, the

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business leader in Hull. His view is the damage from this measure

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will act, at -- will, at a stroke, remove all the advantages of our

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two Enterprise Zones and Local Enterprise Partnership. Should not

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the voice of business take precedence in this debate? Alan

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Johnson speaking in the Commons in the past half-hour. The Treasury

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minister, David Koch, did respond to MPs, and he said he believes the

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attacks on static caravans -- the tax on static caravans are fair --

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is fair. He says it is a boat ironing out anomalies on at the tax

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system. He does not see why VAT should be levied on touring or

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mobile caravans, but not on static caravans. I tell you what, he and

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other ministers here have a real job on their hands convincing MPs

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at Westminster. Our next news tonight is at 10:25pm. Talking

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about regional pay a few minutes ago, one Twitter, I don't think it

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is fair to expect people who did the same job but work in a

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different region to be paid any more or less. As a nurse myself, I

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might pay should reflect our skills, experience and abilities, not

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demographic location. A live 20 miles away from where I work in a

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rural area. It costs me much more to get to work than someone who can

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hop on a train. Another viewer says, I thought this country had equal

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opportunities legislation, just to ensure people were paid the same

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for doing a job. But another viewer says, the NHS must review the cost

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of the country will go bust. The best healthcare already goes to

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private -- is through private providers, so why are the unions up

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in arms? Another viewer says, the Tories and Lib Dems want to expand

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the north-south divide. They will not increase the pay in the south

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so workers there will not be better off, but they do want to cut pay in

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the north. Because they are typical Tories, they want to rush policies

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because they know they will not be in Government much longer. Big

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response of all of those, thank you for that. Join me on the radio with

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