27/10/2011 Look North (Yorkshire)

Thank you. Good Evening and welcome to Look North. Paid for it

performance - Leeds Jail becomes the first state-run prison to be

rewarded if it cuts reoffending rates.

Also on Look North tonight, a blot on the landscape - or much needed

jobs? Pore potash mining on the North York Moors looks more likely

after a huge deposit is found there. And, would we lie to you? We catch

up with the multitalented comic Rob Brydon who is in Sheffield tonight.

And join me for the weather. It's been a cloudy and damp day but

skies will be brighter tomorrow. The full forecast later in the

prament. -- later in the programme.

Good Evening. Thank you very much for joining us. First tonight, Look

North can reveal that Leeds Prison, many know it, is to be the first

ever state-run jail to be paid by its results. That news comes on the

day that new dae that shows reoffending rates there have fallen

dramatically -- data. Similar schemes have been run at privately-

run prisons including Doncaster. The announcement at Leeds marks a

first for the state sector. Joe is there for us tonight.

Thanks, Phil. It's a problem that all Governments have struggled with.

How to cut offending rates and reduce the number of people ending

up in places like Leeds Prison. The Government think they have their

solution. It's payment by results. Essentially, if a prison can cut

reoffending, they get more money. If they can't cut it, they could

lose it. We have seen a couple of examples of this in private prisons,

but this is the first time it's ever come to a state prison.

With its 19th century Tourettes, it doesn't exactly look like a prison

of the future, but this announcement marks the start of a

new era. The first time a state-run prison

will be paid by its results. Government said they want to

produce payment by results systems by 2015 in the whole area so this

is the beginning of a journey and they show that if it can work here,

it's really a very major step forward in terms of payment by

results. It comes as new data shows that rates have been cut

dramatically. 71% of those on short sentences reoffending and it's been

cut in two years to 64%, a fall of nearly 8%.

The crucial question here is how will the scheme work? In the

private sector, like here at Doncaster where Look North recently

filmed, it was clear, if the company that runs the prison

doesn't cut reoffending, the Government cuts its funding.

But will that work in the state sector?

The Government's told us this scheme will work by bringing in

outside help to cut reoffending. That means that, as well as taking

the potential rewards, they also take the risk. But, a source inside

the prison has told the BBC that they also face losing money under

the scheme and since there are no profits at Leeds Prison, that means

potentially less cash for running the jail. That, he said, really

sharpens the mind. In many ways, this announcement

provides as many questions as answers. But, the way that Leeds

eventually answers them could well shape the future of many of the

nation's prisons. Thank you very much. Actually,

Sophie is from the Howard League, that's an organisation which

campaigns for prison reform. I asked her if payment by results is

a good way of preventing prisoners from reoffending once they leave

prison? Well, we have major concerns about

the payment by results model anyway. There's no evidence to show that it

does actually lower reoffending rates, just because it's called

payment by results, doesn't mean you will necessarily get them,

people might not just get the results they are after and might

not get paid for it. These have been piloted. We have not seen any

evidence and the pilots haven't gone on long enough for us to see

any results. As yet, there's no evidence that it will work and

ultimately there's no evidence that it will make Leeds safer. I think

the public would say that if an organisation produces people

through the prison system who go on to not reoffend again, then maybe

they're worth a bonus? I think it's how we look at how you judge

reoffending as well. UK have a -- you can have a few people in prison

who are not likely to reoffend again. As we have seen, a lot of

resources are pumped into those people to make sure they don't

reoffend and, actually, the people who're very Kay yacht nick the

community, they've perhaps got very deep mental health problems,

addiction problems and they're committing a high number of

burglaries and robberies, they won't have the resources because

all they do is produce a reduction in reoffending of 5%. That can be

done by a small number of people who may not reoffend anyway. So you

are saying they'll take resources to another group and certain groups

will be left without help. I wonder, isn't Armley different to other

prisons in so far as it has a lot of prisoners on remand, neither

guilty or innocent? Yes, it's a local prison, meaning that people

go there straight from court, it's an usual choice, in my opinion,

because a lot of people are there for a few days, so it's difficult

to track the outcome of the people who'd first go into Armley. So they

wouldn't know if they reoffended or not? Exactly. Would they be counted

is what I'm asking? That's difficult to know as well. We've

seen from an independent monitoring board at Leeds Prison that they

have struggled in the past with monitoring prisoners through the es

state because they often go to lots of different prisons -- estate. It

will be interesting to see how that works out and also how long we'll

have to wait to get the results. As you can understand, people are at

the beginning of their sentence if they go to Armley or may not get a

custodial sentence at all. Thaufplt complicated - we'll watch

this one - thank you -- thank you very much.

Stkpwhroo we'll have a reaction from the Prison Officers'

Association tonne late bulletin tonight at 10.25.

One of the largest deposits of potash could be lying under the

North York Moors. It's a potassium compound used in fertilisers. In an

announcement to the Stock Exchange, the company Sirius Minerals said it

discovered it at a test borehole which opens the possibility of the

UK's first new potash mine for more than 40 years.

This is the north-east coast in the heart of the North York Moors

National Park, also the landscape immediately above one of the

largest deposits of potash in the world. Test boreholes have

confirmed the find, shares in Sirius, the company behind it, rose

after they reported it to the Stock Exchange.

But finding it is one thing, getting it is another, and concerns

are already being voiced about environmental damage.

There is a potash mine already in the National Park just. Bull biis

actually in Cleveland. It produces more than half the potash used in

fertilisers in the UK -- in bull bi. More than 800 people work here --

Boulby. The borehole was sunk back in the summer and the company

behind it were aware of potential sensitivities. We can have a

conversation with the community about what this project will look

like, where it will be and what impact it might have, positive and

negative. So far, no formal planning application has been made.

When it is, the age old argument of environment versus economy will no

doubt rage. So just how easy is it to extract

the potash without damaging the environment? Dr Bill Murphy is a

geological engineer from the University of Leeds and explaind

how the company could extract the potash from an area of outstanding

natural beauty. What would happen is, there is likely to be a surface

facility which will involve processing. There'll be access

shafts sunk and then from that, there will be what's referred to as

pillar mining, probably underneath the North Sea and then underneath

the National Park itself. What sort of impact is it likely to

have on the environment? This is a spectacular area of outstanding

natural beauty isn't it, and clearly there'll be a lot of

opposition? I don't doubt there'll be a lot of onisation. There will

be economic benefits. -- opposition. The likely environmental impact,

there's potentially a visual impact and subsidence impact but that's

been fairly minimal at Boulby, so I don't think there's necessarily

that kind of problem. I think the main impact in terms of the

environment is going to be the visual impact.

OK. What is potash and what do we use it for? Potash is actually a

variety of groups of minerals. Mainly potassium chloride with

varying amounts of water held into the mineral. But it's principally

used as fertiliser, something like 90% of our production of potash

goes into the fertiliser industry. Do you think that this is likely to

to ahead? Do you think there will be planning approved at some stage?

I can see that being approved some point down the line but with quite

a lot of environmental impact mitigation measures involved from

the mining industry. Dr Murphy, thank you.

We want to hear your views on any story that you see on Look North

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Stay with us. Later on Look North: Hoping to recapture its former

glory. It was once Europe's biggest indoor

shopping centre. Now, the mayor yen in Leeds is set to get a multi-

million pound face-lift. -- mayor yen. The serial child

killer Robert Black who murdered ten-year-old Sarah Morley was today

found guilty of another murder. He was only finally put on trial this

year for the murder. This report on the case that shocked a town two

decades ago. 1994 and delivery driver Robert Black is taken from

court in Newcastle after being found guilty of the murders of

three young girls, including Sarah Harper from Morley. Smelly Bob, as

he was dubbed by other girls who escaped his notorious attacks over

the years in the UK was finally in jail for life. Today, Black, one of

the most notorious killers in British legal history, was found

guilty of the murder here of Jennifer Cardy in Northern Ireland

four years before he move pd his murderous activities to West

Yorkshire. - March 26th, 1986 was a wed night when ten-year-old Sarah

was sent on aner Rand to the corner shop by her mother. At the shop,

she bought a loaf and two packets of crisps. She was last seen

heading down a short alleyway towards her home. After that,

nothing. It was to be three-and-a-half weeks

before Sarah's murdered body was found. She'd been violently

sexually assaulted by Black. The file on Robert Black goes back

to the '60s, today another chilling chapter in the serial killer's

terrible history. Police in Scarborough are asking

the public for help finding a wanted man. Andrew Henry was we

leased from prison earlier this year but has been recalled for

breaching the terms of his release. Police are asking anyone who knows

where he is to contact them. A company which owns four

nightclubs in Yorkshire has gone into administration. Luminar Group

holdings owned Oceana and other clubs. It recorded losses of �198

million in the year to the end of February.

Let's turn to sport. A bob spwaig athlete has been involved in a

training accident -- bobsleigh. Fiona Robinson is being treated for

a head juryry. She was the break woman for former world champion.

Her condition is not shaugt to be serious, but we understand her

partner may have broken her spine. Leeds United were away at

Birmingham last night. You will know that the Blues took the lead

during the first half if you were watching our late bulletin last

night. Leeds couldn't find a reply despite this late effort. It ends

their seven match unbeaten run. A bit disappointing for them. Other

support es may have thought it was quite good. Once upon a time it was

the biggest shopping centre in Europe, but since it opened in the

1960s, the Merrien Center has been overtaken time and time again by

bigger shopping developments. Did you ever go there? You had the big

bowling alley and the most famous nightclub ever, Cinderella

Rockerfellas. It's the student place. It used to be, but it's

going to be marvellous because the owners are planning a multi-million

revamp to get it swinging again. Alan Whitehouse has the story.

47 years ago, this was the future of shopping. A bright new indoor

street of shops where it didn't matter what the weather outside was

doing, and, for three glorious weeks, it was the biggest shopping

centre in Europe. The glory days may be over, but the

Merrien Center still has its loyal followers. I prefer to come here,

it's got Home Bargains, a couple of small shops and Morrison's. It's

more convenient and this one actually has my supermarket where I

get my weekly shop from. It's a compact little place really if you

are looking for things that you want. You can find them here.

is how it could look. The new Leeds Arena will be built across the road

so the Merrien's owners are planning a revamp to tap into the

extra business it will bring. Every other major city in the

country has seen major shopping centre development take place in

the last ten years, Leeds needs to catch up and deserves to be a top

five city in the country. We are capable of that, capable of

sustaining that position in the economic league.

If all goes to plan, work could begin next year and it will create

200 new jobs at a time when the unemployment figures make grim

reading. A lot of the cash will be spent in the market area. 40 odd

years ago when this opened, it was the last word in shopping with car

parking, a filling station and all the shops under one roof. That was

then and this is now. As you can see, parts of the old place are

really getting ready for a spot of TLC.

The Merrien centre may never rival the huge out of town centres that

have come along since, but it seems likely that there'll always be a

place for it in the hearts of Leeds shoppers.

Thank you very much annal. Stay with us. Lots to come before 7.

We have been talking to this man. I'm Rob Brydon, I'm going to be

talking later on about my new book and my reasons for coming to

Sheffield. If ever there was a time to Look North, that time is now.

And the goo in the news - has space matters -- matter been found on the

Pennines? Maybe we should start the programme

every day like that, just look up nofrplt Divine intervention. Three

pizza delivery drivers from Sheffield are about to clock up

serious moped miles. They are using their two-wheeled mean machines for

a 9,500 kilometre rally in north Africa for a good cause. Tom's been

to meet them. They're normally quick out of the

door delivering pizzas on the not so mean streets of Sheffield.

But now they're taking pizza delivery mopeds somewhere they

certainly can't guarantee a fresh delivery time.

These mean machines have just nine horsepower each and no clutch. But

over 9,500 kilometres, keeping things simple could be the key to

success. Places where you can buy nuts and bolts will be few and far

between so... So anything goes? are getting used to using cable

ties and duck tape. At least they come with somewhere handy to keep a

spanner. I saw a website with the race on it and anyone can enter.

For �300, they've bought themselves a support vehicle which will be

crewed by two friends. Well, it looks like it's in pretty

good shape outside, but it still needs some work to be done on the

inside. Could this be the weak link in the chain? The bikes are newer,

so we hope they're dependible and simpler. They are easy to push out

of the dirt. The proper old- fashioned Paris Dakar... They

trundle off in January, once their slice of action is over, they

intend to donate their WAGN to an African hospital.

-- wagon to an African Hospital. For now though, time to practise

ant Peak District's potholes. By the end of the trip, they want, not

to deliver dough, but to raise plenty of it for charity.

I bet the pizzas get a bit cold! Where would we be without cable

ties and duct tape. This man is an actor, impressionist, standup

comedian, TV and radio presenters and is everything b everything

because he's now an author. Talking about me? No, it's that man behind

us. The multitalented Rob Brydon is promoting his book. He starred in

Gavin and Stacey. We'll be hearing from him in a moment, but first

let's see him in action presenting Would I Lie To You?. It's not just

a team game and my individual eye of the week is Joanna Paige. Let me

assure you that that's not favouritism because she's Welsh.

(speaks Welsh) Good night!

I'm in Sheffield for the off the shelf literary festival because, by

coincidence, I happen to have my autobiography out - what are the

chances of that. So I'm there tonight talking about my life and

hopefully making people laugh. of the viewers will know you for

the role of the protective uncle Bryn in Gavin and Stacey. Did you

ever think that would become the cult series it was? Not as big as

it has become. I knew it was very good. I knew when I read the script

and thought, these are particularly good and I knew that the cast was

excellent and then when filming, we got on like a house on fire. But

you never know, you know. Then when it started to go out, started to

get an incling that it would be a big hit. You said to me when you

started you felt you were a bit like a poor man's Keith Chegwin,

that's not saying much is it? That's a bit unfaur to Keith, but

no, I did the radio, then a bit of local television and I was a

Roveing reporter -- unfair. That's great if you want to be a Roveing

reporter, nothing wrong with that, but I wanted to do comedy and

acting, so for me it was frustrating. Then, I say in the

book, I went on to work on the shopping channel as a presenter,

you know, then as an actor, the best I could get was, I went to

Glasgow and played roles in a conference for thrush cream. Even

the most optimistic glass is half full attitude, you still have to be

thinking, oh, boy, this is not going well.

You are well known for your impressions, Rob. I listen to the

infamous now Radio Two programme when you stood in for Ken Bruce and

I, like many millions of others thought, Ken Bruce is drunk, but

actually it wasn't that at all? think he might be drunk a lot of

the time anyway because I've listened to him and Chris Rea, the

Road to Hell, sometimes it's a Scottish bear coming out of the

radio. That was April Fool's day, I love that, we did a whole joke, I

did the whole show as Ken, he came in at the end. Is it true you were

at school with Catherine Zeta- Jones? Not just that. Eddie Izzard

was at my first school the year before me, the second school

Catherine was there, the third school was where I met Ruth Jones,

Nesa -- Nessa, so it seems like I had a rider, there has to be a star

of the future here. What is the future for Rob Brydon?

Well, Christmas is coming. The goose is getting fat. I don't know.

I've just done a play actually, did my first play in Belfast with

Kenneth Brannagh, so I would like to do maybe a bit more of that play

or another bit of theatre. Loved being in the theatre so maybe more

of that. Good to meet you. Thank you, lovely to meet you. Cheers.

You never know when he's being serious or not actually.

This is a really strange story. It's a mysterious and possibly

extra terrestrial white jelly which has been discovered on Mars don

Moore in West Yorkshire. -- Marsden. Yes, it was made by Rakesh Jalota

and his son Ketan. But what is it? We went to find out. The aftermath

of a meteor shower or maybe an unidentified fungus. Nobody knows

what this is. Ketan and Rakesh discovered a pile of it at the

weekend and this afternoon, they took me up to Marsden moor to seek

it out. It's what ues called star gelly and it's been discovered

recently in Scotland and the Lake District. Has it now arrived in

Thanks for finding it again, guys. What did you think when you find

this on Saturday? Just really bizarre. Caten found it, so he'd

seen something on TV when he was watching with his mummy and he

starts shouting, I've seen some star jelly. I didn't have a clue

what he was on about. Didn't really touch it before because we didn't

know what it was, then we went home and goingled it. Do you think it's

come from outer space? I do. Googled it. Now that we have found

this, it's like nothing I've ever seen before. Watch this. Stick the

pen in. It's a bit gooey. Pull the pen out and it just reforms. It's

like nothing I've ever seen before. Jelly. Disgusting. A few years ago,

the BBC colleagues in Scotland took some samples to a lab to try and

find out a bit more. DNA tests were inconclusive and one expert said he

thought it hadn't come from a plant or animal. No real explanation's

ever been found, but star gelly's always been discovered in rural

locations. So, for now, and for me, I like the idea that it's landed

here from outer space. This programme gets more surreal by the

day doesn't it! Honestly, I need a lie down. Star

jelly looks disgusting. Sorry if we put you off your tea. Let's do the

put you off your tea. Let's do the weather and call it a day.

Keep your photos coming in. It's been wet today but tomorrow is

going to be a lot better. The mist will clear and we'll see plenty of

sunshine. We won't have any weather fronts bothering us tomorrow so it

will turn out to be a nice day, unlike today. The satellite picture

shows all the cloud that we have had. It's been giving us some

outbreaks of rain. It's clearing away eastwards, so the Pennines

will soon become dry and the rest of us will dry up this evening. The

cloud will break tonight. Light winds, clear spells that will allow

some mist and patchy fog to form. Temperatures drop down to two or

Tomorrow it will be a chilly start to the day with a touch of ground

frost in places and some patches of mist and fog, particularly through

the Vale of York. Any mist and fog will lift during the first part of

the morning and the rest of the day will be dry and fine with a decent

amount of sunshine. The sunshine stays with us as we head through

the afternoon as well. The winds are going to be light, rather

variable in direction, temperatures on the coast for Scarborough and

Filey around 12 degrees. We could reach 13 through a few spots but

closer to 11 or 12 for the Pennines. As we head through the weekend,

Saturday starts off with the best of the brightness. It will cloud