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week. Great, Peter, thanks very much.

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This report is shocking. Frankly, I did not expect it to be as blunt,

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and I am glad it is. We also look at the extent

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of child sexual abuse elsewhere. A tale of two cities as

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Bradford City beat local rivals Leeds to make it through to the next

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round of the Capital One Cup. Food for thought, the Yorkshire

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link to what is arguably the A mixture of sunny intervals and

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scattered showers tomorrow, but what about the weekend? Join me for the

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very latest. Good evening,

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and welcome to Look North. There are calls

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for criminal charges to be brought against senior officials who were

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in charge in Rotherham, when 1,400 girls were sexually

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exploited over a 16 year period. John Mann,

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the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, also wants an independent police

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force, and not South Yorkshire, Meanwhile, the Prime Minister has

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added his voice to demands for the Police and Crime Commissioner,

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Shaun Wright, to step aside. Mr Wright was in charge

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of children's services in Rotherham We'll report tonight on the scale of

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the problem, not just in Rotherham, And we'll hear

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from the man who is now in charge of But, first, our reporter,

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James Vincent, is in Rotherham Yes. South Yorkshire police under

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more scrutiny this evening. The IPCC, the Independent Police

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Complaints Commission, says this report into child sexual

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exploitation is shocking, and it's writing to the Chief Constable of

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South Yorkshire police and it wants any evidence of failure is or must

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conduct to be referred to them so that they can investigate. This

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report has shocked Rotherham. 1400 children exploited in this town over

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16 years. It's been in the news all week, and people want to know whose

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fault it is. The scope of this report into child

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sexual exploitation in Rotherham has now led for some to call for a

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criminal investigation. People simply want answers as to why this

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was allowed to happen. This man's daughter was a victim of child

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sexual exploitation. They know who they are, they know they've not done

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their job and if they have anything about them, they shouldn't be doing

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the job. They need to be brought to task because it is perverting the

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course of justice. They are offices for the police and also the people

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in the council are paid to safeguard children. It's not just those

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terribly affected by grooming. The town has been shamed and people

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living here at angry. It's disgusting to hear about it,

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especially the amount it is, it's terrible. To be fair, as a

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community, we should stick together and not be doing stuff like that,

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and the council needs to do something, step up. These guys now,

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they need to quit don't they? They need to quit. From the top to the

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bottom. We know about Rotherham Council. They need to get their

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finger out, and start looking after people what they are meant to be

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looking after, and not just sitting on their backsides. The police

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commissioner continues to be under pressure to resign. He is a

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politician without a party and now the Prime Minister is saying he

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needs to take responsibility. But he's the only person who can decide

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if he stays or goes. The reports are shocking from Rob from, and the

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scale of the abuse that was going on is deeply shocking and I think the

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Home Secretary was right yesterday to say, having looked at the report,

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and the fact that the police commissioner was at the time head of

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Children's Services, that the right decision would be to resign and take

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full responsible at you for what happened. One news Chris chased the

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police commissioner, his former colleagues are queueing up to

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criticise him. It is wilful neglect. If you know that there is child

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abuse on this scale and of this nature going on, to turn a blind eye

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to it, and there is a criminal charge that can be brought, and we

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should use the law against those people. The government has already

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said it will have an inquiry into what has happened in Rotherham. For

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many, that is not enough. There is even more pressure on the

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police Commissioner this evening. In the last hour, his deputy police

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commissioner, a Labour councillor, has decided she will quit. She is a

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Labour politician but, of course, after Shaun Wright resigned from the

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Labour Party, she is saying she can't work with him, and he should

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have stepped down. No word from Shaun Wright or South Yorkshire

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police. We asked both for interviews. South Yorkshire police

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told us there are 173 active child sexual exploitation investigations

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in South Yorkshire at the moment. 32 of those are based here in

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Rotherham. Thank you.

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Well, the report author has insisted that there were no senior figures

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The report into sexual exploitation in Rotherham tells us that

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from 2005, it's hard to believe any senior people at the council were

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So, who held some of the key posts, and where are they now?

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Our correspondent Jamie Coulson has the details.

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Well, the report author has insisted that there were no senior figures

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Now, Roger Stone has been the council

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leader since 2003, and is the only senior person to resign so far.

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He said it's "only right he takes responsibility

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Shaun Wright is currently South Yorkshire's Police and

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But he managed children's services between 2005 and 2010.

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He's resisted calls to resign, although he has stepped down

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Joyce Thacker is the current Executive Director of Children

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She's already a controversial figure, having removed three

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ethnic minority children from their foster parents because of their

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And, today, Rotherham Council gave her its full support.

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Sonia Sharp is a former Director of Children and

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She now holds a senior position in Australia.

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She has said she "regrets every case of exploitation of young girls but

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"feels strongly that their collective efforts led to gradual

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"situation." And Mike Cuff, a former Chief Executive who was in

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post between 2004`2009, has said he "takes his share of responsibility

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"for the council's failure to prevent the appalling abuse."

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These are just some of the 52 senior people from the

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council, past and present, who were interviewed as part of the review.

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Steve Ashley is the independent chair of Rotherham's

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A former chief superintendent with Merseyside Police, he took up

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I began by asking him why no`on else from

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the council, including the head of Children's' Services, Joyce Thacker,

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I can't speak for them as to why they're not prepared to speak.

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What I can say is this, the director of Children's Services

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She is very committed to sorting these problems out.

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I think the report doesn't highlight particular issues

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And all I can do is talk about people and

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The report itself says, and I'm virtually quoting, it's hard

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to believe that any senior people, from the leader of the Council

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and chief executive downwards or not aware of the problem.

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That, of course, suggests a cover`up.

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Everybody knew what was going on, nobody wanted to tackle the issue.

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No, and I think you've got to look at what level people were at,

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and what their involvement was at that point.

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It's totally impractical to think that you can remove every senior

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manager that is currently working in Rotherham social care,

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or the police service, for that matter, and then move forward.

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I do accept absolutely, though, that if people have been found

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wanting in the past, and that is still a concern, then, of course,

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All I can say is that in terms of, certainly, the chief executive and

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the director of Children's Services, they have shown nothing but full

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They were very supportive of this report.

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You see, in Rotherham, the one thing they do,

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and I'm sure you're aware of this, when you go in the town, or in the

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When they see the senior management of Rotherham Council hiding

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behind statements, they don't like it and they smell a rat.

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Rotherham could have been opened up any more than it has been.

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This report is shocking in its nature, it's, you know,

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frankly I did not expect it to be as blunt, and I am glad it is.

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People have to answer for the actions they took,

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The Chief Executive has been in post, I think, since about 2009,

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and, when, really, the moves to improve the situation could occur.

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So, from that point of view, what I'm interested in is are the people

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we've got now totally committed to moving this issue forward?

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Would people be listened to if they went to the police?

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Because one of the suggestions is that there's

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no support by the council to help them in future anyway.

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The fact of the matter is that support

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for post abuse victims, not just in South Yorkshire, at in the whole

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for post abuse victims, not just in South Yorkshire, but in the whole

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We rely almost entirely on charity organisations to provide

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I have written to the Health and Well`being Board to enter

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discussions with them about what funding there's going to

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I've no doubt that there will be considerable argument now that takes

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place about who is responsible for that.

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What I care about is the fact that 1400 children now need

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support, and, one way or another, I will fight, I think along with many

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Well, the issue of child sexual exploitation isn't

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Police forces across Yorkshire are dealing with

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West Yorkshire police revealed it's investigating more than 60 cases

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of child sexual exploitation in the county.

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Our reporter Phil Bodmer has been investigating the scale

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The scale of child sexual exploitation in

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Rotherham has rung alarm bells in towns and cities across Yorkshire.

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The journalist who first uncovered the extent of grooming in Rotherham

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believes the problem extends beyond South Yorkshire.

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We certainly found very specific examples in Leeds, in Keighley,

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in Bradford, Dewsbury, where, over a number of years, girls had fallen

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Attempts had been made by those children, or their family,

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their parents, to draw attention to it, and we saw records where,

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unfortunately, those in authority, who had a duty to protect children,

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had failed to take the action that needed to be taken.

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In West Yorkshire, police say they are currently

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investigating 65 cases of grooming but admit the true figure could be

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much higher, as many victims are simply too afraid to report abuse.

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There are investigations ongoing across all areas of West Yorkshire,

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We have 65 live investigations at this moment in time.

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In the main, they are single offender and single victim, but we

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have three large investigations with multiple offenders,

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Do you believe the problem could be higher than the 65 you're

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Most definitely, in the sense that we're always going to have

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And I'd ask people in the voluntary sector to encourage

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The former Labour MP for Keighley first raised concerns

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about child sexual exploitation back in 2002, but she became frustrated

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by the reluctance of the authorities to take action.

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Does she now think the issue is being taken more seriously?

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We're at least talking about it now, and once you start to talk

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about something, you start to find solutions.

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I think we are on the way to finding a solution.

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And it is all agencies that have to be involved in that.

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Kirtley's council says it's increasing help for those worried

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by the report into child abuse in Rotherham.

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Meanwhile, the Huddersfield MP is calling for a national commission to

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safeguard young people against this scale of abuse happening again.

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Ten years ago, a documentary was made for Channel 4

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which shone a spotlight on child grooming in Bradford.

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It provoked a huge response, and its original transmission was

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delayed for several months because it was hijacked

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It was called Edge Of The City and it uncovered some now very

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Two mothers, they search for their daughters. They go missing virtually

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every night. These mothers are too frightened to be identified. Their

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daughters are too trusting to realise the danger they are heading

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into. I walked into the room, and there were about six guys in there.

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One guy wanted sex, he was nasty, forceful, throwing me about a bit.

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He abused me. That sounds familiar to what we have been hearing.

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Anna Hall made that documentary and joins us now.

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That was ten years ago, nothing was done about it, but why? Well, in

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Bradford ten years ago, there was a significant child protection

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investigation in Keighley that we followed in that documentary so I

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started making that in 2002 and 2003. It was transmitted in 2004. At

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that point, what we found was that social services or firefighting, and

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that the police were investigating. They had 50... Suspected victims who

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are coming forward. But, in fact, what they were finding is that the

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victims, those girls who were being investigated, would not give

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statements. They didn't see themselves as being victims. And,

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therefore, the police couldn't take the cases forward because there were

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no complaints. What we've learned now, in the last ten years, since I

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made that film, is that, as people have come to understand, what is

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this sexual exploitation all about? It is about the psychological

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manipulation of really young teenagers. Are we actually

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frightened of getting to the real issue about who is to blame for this

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situation as well? You knew about Rotherham. Are we talking about a

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certain community that may be perpetrating these things? Well, I

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mean, in 2004, in my film, the cat was out of the bag. In 2004, we said

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the perpetrators were overwhelmingly Asian. Now, that, in fact, was

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inaccurate. What we should have said, and what we've learned now is

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that the perpetrators of these big style gang grooming cases are

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overwhelmingly British Pakistani. And lots of people will say you

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can't say that. And we need to be careful about saying that. Of

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course, we are not saying that is every type of child sexual abuse,

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but what it seemed to me, as I made that film in 2004, and I knew about

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this style of grooming in 1996 in Bradford because Barnardos in

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Bradford had uncovered exactly this pattern 20 years ago. So, my thing

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was always if there is a pattern that is staring us in the face,

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let's deal with it, however unpalatable it is. How do we deal

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with it? What is the answer? In my opinion, the complexity of this

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crime, there are so many different layers... I've now made three films

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on this issue. I made a film three years ago, and we went around the

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country talking to the British Pakistani community and, guess

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what? Absolutely everybody we talked to was horrified. So, the answer is

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to engage, youth workers, Imam 's, leaders within the community, women

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within the community, to help us understand. And that is what hasn't

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happened, there hasn't been a cultural sociology. What is going

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on, and why is this being allowed to happen? You are saying about

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schools, making girls aware of what grooming is. Absolutely. I think we

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need to go into schools in year five, your six, a seven, and the

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aid. Most of these young people are in schools. Eventually, they start

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cropping out but in year seven, they are in schools, and we need

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specialist youth workers to go to schools.

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A dramatic night of football, as Bradford City win 2`1 against a ten

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Join me later to find out what is so amazing about this Yorkshire tree.

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In other news now, and a 27`year`old South Yorkshire police

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constable Daniel Cookson, previously based at Rotherham, appeared on bail

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at Leeds Magistrates Court today charged with causing a 15`year`old

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PC Cookson, who was charged last week, has been suspended

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He's accused of the offence between March and November last year.

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PC Cookson will appear at Leeds Crown Court next month.

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Drivers fined for crossing Lendal Bridge in York will have to ask for

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their money back after councillors rejected calls for everyone to be

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Tens of thousands of fines were issued during a

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controversial trial closure of the bridge, which has since re`opened.

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City of York councillors met last night to discuss the refunds.

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The Labour majority voted to give the money back only

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After the debacle, we should have seen everybody given their money

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back. That is what they should have done. It is disappointing Labour

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have not done that. I'm guessing they're still

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celebrating in Bradford after knocking Leeds United out

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of the Capital One cup. It was a famous night at

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Valley Parade as the League One side beat their

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Championship neighbours two one. The fans turned out in their

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thousands for this local derby. You'd have to go back to

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when grandma and grandpa were kids for the last time Bradford beat

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Leeds at Valley Parade. Lead started well

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but this rash challenge from Luke Murphy was the first of two

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yellow cards that would see him It wasn't one`way traffic

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from that moment on but the side piled on the pressure getting

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ever closer to scoring that elusive But then Leeds broke

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for the first time in a long time. They had a few players

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in the Bradford half. Two minutes later,

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Bradford were level. Two minutes after that,

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they were ahead. Fantastic game, great result,

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coming back from 1`0 down, Such different emotions for Leeda

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the pressure mounts of the manager. it wasn't good enough

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in certain areas. Shouldn't of been appointed

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in the first place. He might be a good youth coach,

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but he's not a good manager. It was a result that had these

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fans dreaming of Wembley again. Their reward is

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a not very glamorous trip to MK Dons who, of course, knocked Manchester

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United out of the competition. The pick of the ties sees

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Sheffield Wednesday take on the Premier League champions

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Manchester City at the Etihad. Sheffield United go to Leyton Orient

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and Doncaster are away to Fulham. Yorkshire are no longer in the

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one`day cup. They would beaten at home by Durham this afternoon. I

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can't believe this! 4 wickets

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for Richard Pyrah helped Yorkshire And with a victory target of 238,

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the successful chase was largely down to this pair,

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Gary Ballance and Alex Lees. They put in a partnership of 75 for

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the third wicket. Lees was out for 49 and Ballance

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continued on to make 61. But once they'd been separated

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it all came apart, I'm afraid. For the record, Yorkshire were all

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out for 206. Durham progress to the semifinals.

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Harry, you're a history man, did you know that Yorkshire has

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Many say it's the world's most famous apple.

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It's one of the oldest surviving varieties of eating apple

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and was raised 300 years ago at Ribston Hall near Knaresborough.

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Today I will need eight Ribston Pippin. Along with... Flower, cream,

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butter, sugar, and a pinch of salt. And this is an apple with a story.

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It's one of the oldest varieties of eating apples, and it was grown

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right here in Yorkshire. And this tree is the grandchild of the

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original. In 1709, Sir Henry grew the first Ribston Pippin Apple. More

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than a century later, Richard Cox used these seeds to grow his famous

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Cox Orange Pippin. This portrait in Redstone Hull shows the original

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Pippin tree. It was damaged in a storm and sprouted at the sides. For

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Yorkshire, it's important because so much these days, people are

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increasingly aware of where their produce comes from and to be able to

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trace something like an apple back to 300 years ago is important

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because you get taste that you don't get now, textures you don't get now,

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and that is part of it, exploring the history and heritage. There's a

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million thing you can do with apples but one recipe was especially

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popular with the Georgians. Here we are next to the Ribston Pippin tree,

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and we are making a phrase with Pippins. We have peeled it and

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pan`fried it with some butter, and we are going to pour the batter into

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the pan. We take the apple, slice it down, and place it on top of the

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batter into the pan because we've got to lift this tiny pancake. Flip

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it over, and there we go. There is our pudding, ready to eat. Try a

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bit. What do you think? It is really, really good. Beautiful. It

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is amazing. We are about to taste it for

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ourselves. It's a day old. Will I lose my teeth in it?

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You can find out more about the Ribston Pippin apple

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at the Harrogate Flower Show, which starts on the 12th of September.

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Here is this beautiful pancake. That is very tart! It's very nice.

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Lovely. Do you want your denture cream?

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Quite tart. Oh, they are sharp. Let's have a look at the pictures

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that have come on over the last when he four hours. `` the last 24 hours.

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This isn't great television when I'm eating! Thank you for your pictures.

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Tomorrow, it is unsettled, breezy and showery, most of the showers in

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the west and north, and you can see that the wind will be quite strong

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but the weekend isn't looking too bad, and we are looking at an

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improvement next week as the summer returns! Tomorrow's showers for the

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West, that is a line that came through this afternoon, but it is a

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lovely evening with lots of sunshine around, dry and mainly sunny, but

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later the cloud will thicken with a few showers coming into the

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Yorkshire Dales, in particular. Further east and south, Stein dry

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with lowest temperatures coming in at 12 or 13.

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A bright and breezy day to come tomorrow, most of the shower Bob

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activity in the Yorkshire Dales and further south across the Pennines.

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Later, those showers gang up, becoming more frequent, and they

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might push eastwards, all the way towards the coast. It could become

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showery in the West at times. The showers are driven on by a fresh

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wind. Saturday, a few showers in the West, otherwise mainly dry. Sunday

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is the best a of the weekend, and next week is looking very promising.

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Glad to hear it. Try the pancake. Take it home for the kids.

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And what about the football last night? Best day of my life, just

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about. First time they have won at Valley Parade since 1932.

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Go away if you don't me to speak to you like that!

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Most schools exclude disruptive pupils.

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I ain't putting up with this any more.

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