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We're Welsh, we like a pint - | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
it's part of who we are. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
As a focal centre of society, pubs are absolutely vital. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
But we've also got a problem with drink. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
It's one that has divided our nation for 200 years. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:22 | |
There was more of a feeling that the pub was a den of iniquity | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
and there was a devil at the bottom of every glass. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
To understand this love-hate relationship with alcohol | 0:00:30 | 0:00:34 | |
we have to look at our past and the way that history has changed | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
how, when and what we drink in Wales. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
'Drink has always been part of the traditions of Wales.' | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
It's believed that brewing was discovered in the Stone Age, | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
which takes us back 6,000 years. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
It's been part of our tradition | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
for as long as anybody can remember. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
FOLK SONG PLAYS | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
'Beer was brewed everywhere | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
'and, because it was a domestic normal part of life, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
'it was mainly done by women' | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
and they were normally known as ale wives. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
They would brew for the family just like they'd cook for the family. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
'At a time when the diet wasn't too good - water was suspect, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
'milk was suspect as well - and the safe drink, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
'which had alcohol in it, which had hops, which are antiseptic, was beer. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
'Weaker beers were drunk by the whole family including children.' | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
Beer was brewed throughout Wales | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
because hops and barley grew everywhere. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
But in the south-east of the country, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
there were sweeter ingredients to hand. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
'What's being made here is honest, upright, full-bodied cider. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:11 | |
'Gallon upon delightful gallon of it. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
'Enough to keep a mini army of farm workers | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
'marching stoutly through the harvesting seasons. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
'You might not think so, but there's an art in pulping apples, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
'an odd trick or two when making home-brewed cider | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
'with an appeal to the palate.' | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
After it's put into the barrel, we generally put... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:35 | |
an old rabbit or a... rat or a lump of beef... | 0:02:35 | 0:02:41 | |
'I wouldn't have thought that a rat would have added very much to the flavour.' | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
-Oh, yes. -What does it do for the cider? | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Well, the cider eats the rat... | 0:02:48 | 0:02:50 | |
You wouldn't see nothing - even a bone - in the bottom of the barrel | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
'when the cider starts to work.' | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Drink was a natural part of rural life | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and as such it was embraced by the church. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
'If you look back at the origins of the Congregationalists, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
'Independents, Baptists and so on, they were not instinctively anti-drink.' | 0:03:10 | 0:03:16 | |
And I'm told, there's a chapel in Bow Street, near Aberystwyth, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
where there's a little niche | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
where the minister kept his half pint during his service. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
But when the Industrial Revolution shifted the focus of Welsh life | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
from the countryside to the town, attitudes changed. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
Suddenly you had a lot of people gathered together around mines, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
factories, steelworks and so forth. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
'That created a lot more social problems | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
'and suddenly drunkenness seemed much more of a problem.' | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
I was born in the Duke Of Edinburgh | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
and my mother and father kept the Duke Of Edinburgh at Cambridge | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
and the East Dock. When they were building the Dowlas Works | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
and as kids we'd hear them, "Dad, they're coming." | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
He'd go down and open then cos you could hear on the wooden bridge | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
the navvies coming, the Irish navvies, who built the docks, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
and they used to be in there a whole day and night. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
He'd just close at night, which some of them, they couldn't stand | 0:04:21 | 0:04:25 | |
and he'd be there and he'd just close the bar and leave them. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
Then they'd get up in the morning and go to work. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Building the new industrial Wales was thirsty work. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
Nowhere was this more evident | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
than in the pubs that served the Welsh steelworks. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
There was huge long bar and they'd line them up - one pint here, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
another there and another there. They'd be lined up three deep | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
'and suddenly the hooter would go, the doors'd open | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
'and huge numbers of men would arrive from the steelworks. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'Sweating like mad, they'd just knock back the first pint, | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
'virtually knock back the second and settle on the third.' | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Heavy industries demanded heavy drinking. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
As the pub was becoming the central feature of the new industrial areas, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:10 | |
that's the very time when a movement arose | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
to clamp down on drinking, to try and prevent it all together. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
In the 1830s, the new temperance movement | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
found plenty of support for its ethos of moderation | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
and self-denial in non-conformist Wales. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Originally the movement came from America - the idea of temperance. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:37 | |
You shouldn't overdo it. Indeed they established the Two Pint Club, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
where you could have two pints a night. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
Which if you were working in an ironworks - hot all day - | 0:05:45 | 0:05:50 | |
you need two pints just to get your liquid back to a normal level. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
So they settled on two pints. Some of the members thought, "Two pints a night, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
"that's 14 pints, let's save them up and have them on Saturday night." | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
So the movement began to say, if people can't be temperate, they should stop - cold turkey. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
This was the start of a holy war on drink, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
which would pit the chapels against the brewers | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
in a struggle for the soul of the nation. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
The temperance and religious revivals | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
that swept the valleys really worried the brewers. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
'Lots of people signed pledges to give up drinking altogether | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
'and hung them on their walls. There was this very fervent atmosphere. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:36 | |
'The dominant form of religion was a rather puritanical Non-conformity.' | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
The ides of drinking for pleasure, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
in fact the idea of doing anything for pleasure, | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
tended to be frowned upon. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
'But then, of course, a lot of people back-slid | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
'and went back to drinking and then another revival would come along | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
'and so it would go in sort of waves. Further one way, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
'then there'd be temperance, then there'd be temptation.' | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
The high point of the temperance campaign | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
was The Sunday Closing Act of 1881. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
The Wales Sunday Closing Act satisfied the calls | 0:07:11 | 0:07:14 | |
of Methodist preachers for pubs throughout the country | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
to close their doors on the Lord's day. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
The Sabbath was now the battlefield | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
on which the chapels and the brewers would fight for the next century. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
What a terrible thing it'd be for our children, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
to see people coming from public houses | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
when they come out from Sunday school. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
That is what would happen if the public houses were open. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
What kind of a Sunday would it be, sitting in a public house? | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
The chapels have far more to offer. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
Six days shalt thou labour and do all that thou hast to do, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:56 | |
but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:02 | |
'The Sabbath to me is a day to keep holy | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
'and do as little work as we can... | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
'and a day to go to worship, to chapel, and to worship our God.' | 0:08:11 | 0:08:18 | |
THEY SING A HYMN | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
THE HYMN CONTINUES | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
The pubs may have been closed, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
but that didn't mean you couldn't get a drink on a Sunday. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
'If you wanted to drink you'd join the Conservative Club | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
'or the Constitutional Club, the working man's club, the rugby club... | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
'Any of the dozens of clubs that most small towns in Wales had. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
'There was an exclusivity about Sunday drinking, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
'which was an unhealthy dividing factor in society.' | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
I think it did create too, in Wales, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
the notion that we were rather a gang of hypocrites. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
'There were one or two places on the border | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
'where half the bar might be in England, half in Wales. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
'There was one on the borders' | 0:09:28 | 0:09:29 | |
where I think the public bar was in England | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and the lounge bar was in Wales, so officially they weren't supposed to use the lounge bar on a Sunday. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
And some poor fellow went into the lounge bar | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
and dropped dead from a heart attack, so they had to drag the corpse down the corridor | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
into the public bar in order to prove that they hadn't broken | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
the Sunday Closing Laws and that the fellow who'd died | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
was quite legitimately drinking in England | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
rather than illegitimately in Wales. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
The Sunday Closing Act had been a major victory | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
for the Welsh temperance movement. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
And in the first half of the 20th century, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
they found a champion who would carry their cause even further. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
DRUMS BEAT | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
'At the First World War, Lloyd George declared,' | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
"We have got three enemies in this war - one is Germany, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
"the other is Austria and the third is drink." | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
And he had a crusade against drink and he did cut down on the hours. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
'He weakened the level of beer and also he allowed local justices' | 0:10:26 | 0:10:32 | |
to close virtually when they liked. So that in Cardiganshire, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Tregaron closed at half past nine. The Aberaeron magistrates closed at ten. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:42 | |
So that the route between Tregaron and Aberaeron | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
was deadly about 9:40 because half the population of Tregaron | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
were driving to Aberaeron to get extra drinking. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
These licensing restrictions remained in place | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
after the end of the war. But this apparent success for the temperance lobby would prove its undoing. | 0:10:54 | 0:11:00 | |
With shorter pub opening hours and weaker beer, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
drunkenness and alcohol-related deaths dropped. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
Drink was no longer the great evil that it had been. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
'In the Second World War,' | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
the temperance movement again pressed for very heavy restrictions on the industry. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
The Government turned them down. They said, "No, we see beer as vital for maintaining morale. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:30 | |
"We see the pub as..." | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
Someone called it the block house on the home front. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
It was where the community could gather after dark | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
and where the heart of the nation would beat strong. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
'Women came out a bit, you know, and it would be a social thing for them when their husbands were away.' | 0:11:47 | 0:11:53 | |
I suppose they'd put their children to bed | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
and they'd go out for an hour on their own. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
'Shandy they'd have or a port and lemon.' | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
It was now socially acceptable for women to go to the pub. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
However, they still had to know their place. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
'The men would come in the bar and the wives would go in the cwtsh | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
and the men would stay in the bar. When they'd finished they'd call them, "We're ready!" | 0:12:11 | 0:12:16 | |
Then they'd go off together. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
But while the pub had grown more respectable, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
it was still a no-go area on Sundays. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
The women would queue on Saturday night halfway up the street | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
with their flowered jugs and they'd be all in competition - | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
who had the nicest jug - for the couple of pints of beer | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
for the men for the Sunday. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
'After the war, generally beer and going to the pub was regarded as more acceptable.' | 0:12:38 | 0:12:45 | |
So things like the Sunday closing were regarded as an anomaly now. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
As popular support for Sunday closing slipped, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
Welsh voters were given the freedom to make up their own minds. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
In 1961, every county in Wales held its own referendum on the issue. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:05 | |
From now on, these polls would be held every seven years. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
For the Welsh temperance movement, this was the beginning of the end. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
'The vote on Sunday opening is a very clear indicator | 0:13:13 | 0:13:19 | |
'of the way in which there was a marked decline | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
'in respect for the Sabbath. In the first vote in the early '60s, | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
'the large urban districts all tried, but the rest of Wales | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
'remains very heavily committed in the early '60s' | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
to the notion of the sanctity of the Sunday | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
and that the peace of the Sunday shouldn't be destroyed | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
by drinking people coming out of pubs. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
'But then every seven years, you can see them dropping one by one.' | 0:13:41 | 0:13:45 | |
'Today, three new chinks have appeared in Wales' alcohol curtain.' | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
As a result of the 1968 local option polls Montgomeryshire, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Denbighshire and, in the far west, Pembrokeshire | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
have changed their minds since 1961 and voted to have their public houses open on Sundays. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:03 | |
'The chairman of the Sunday Opening Council is David Baird Murray. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:07 | |
-'How does he feel after today's results?' -I'm obviously delighted. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
This is what we forecast. We thought we'd win these three counties and we've done it. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
'The difference on the map is that while East Wales is completely wet | 0:14:15 | 0:14:20 | |
'on Sunday now, the patchwork quilt does remain because of Pembrokeshire's wet decision. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
'It'll still be confusing to tourists and travellers | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
'that if they cross the border into Cardigan or Carmarthen, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
'they'll find the pub doors closed on Sundays.' | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
# There's a little pub in Wales Where they sell the best of ales | 0:14:34 | 0:14:38 | |
# But if you want a drink on Sunday You will have to wait till Monday | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
# Did you ever see? Did you ever see? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
# Did you ever see such a funny thing before? # | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
'This is the boundary of Breconshire and here is Glamorgan. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:56 | |
'The road winds in and out all along the boundary. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
'Here you could have had any number of quick ones at the Mountain here | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
'between 12 and 2 PM. But that pub is in Glamorgan, which, of course, is wet. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
'About two miles further along the same road, | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
'you would have found the Rose And Crown closed. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
'And a little further on still, you would have come across two pubs, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
'almost opposite each other - the Gwyn Arms and the Tregye Arms - | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
'also shut. And at the Berrington Arms you might have heard the licensee say,' | 0:15:23 | 0:15:29 | |
The corner of my premises is eight foot six from the Glamorgan border. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:35 | |
'What do you do with yourself on a Sunday? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
'I go down over the border on a Sunday. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
'I'm going down now with a friend of mine... | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
'to have a little drink where they're allowed to drink on Sundays, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
'which is 200 yards away.' | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
'Montgomeryshire went in the late 1960s,' | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
so everybody would go to Machynlleth. There were only seats on the stairs | 0:15:51 | 0:15:56 | |
in the Black Lion Inn on a Sunday. It was absolutely packed. | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
With each referendum, the Sunday closing lobby lost more ground. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
But just as the brewers were conquering their old enemy, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
they found themselves under attack from a new quarter. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
It's ironic, in a way, that when the temperance movement lost its momentum, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
that other things actually hit the brewing industry and the pubs. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:22 | |
'One was called television, which arrived on a large scale | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
'and obviously people started to stay at home at night | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
'and watch TV. Ely Brewery even introduced a beer called TV Ale. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:37 | |
'They introduced it in large flagons hoping that people would buy that... while watching TV at home.' | 0:16:37 | 0:16:43 | |
The coming of the supermarket made it easier | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
and cheaper for us to drink at home. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
And with the growing popularity of nightclubs and restaurants, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
it seemed the very existence of the good old local pub | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
was under threat. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
For the Mason's Arms it's D-day. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
D for defence day against a council work squad and its bulldozer | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
now crawling inexorably towards this village local. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
'The villagers say they're prepared to stand their ground | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
'to prevent the village's social centre being pulled down. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
'And that from today on, they're ready for an instant sit-in | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
'to halt the bulldozer in its tracks. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
'The villagers say that if the council's officials | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
'try to take over the pub, the lock-in will start and go on.' | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
Can I ask you this? If there is a confrontation with the law | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
or with council officials, how are you likely to react? | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Well, we are likely to react and if it is the law... | 0:17:37 | 0:17:44 | |
well, we'll have to get out. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
But otherwise from the law, we shall stay in till the last minute. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:55 | |
'Meanwhile, the council is playing it cool.' | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
They say they're prepared to wait until the regulars - | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
who'll be sitting in here soon - run out of patience, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
out of time and out of beer. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
The classic ingredients of every successful siege. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Perhaps the most fascinating side of this battle now | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
will be to see which of those supplies runs out first, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
before there's final capitulation. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
This is David Allen reporting from the Mason's Arms in Pembrokeshire. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
'A lot of the family local brewers looked at the industry | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
'and decided to get out of the business and sell up. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
'You had in the early 1960s the development of national brewers, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:35 | |
'who bought up a lot of the local regional brewers. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
'Bass who took over Hancock's and Whitbread who took over Rhymney' | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
and Ely and Evan Evans Bevan at Neath. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
They really built up huge dominance in the market. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
This modernisation of the industry would change what we drank in Wales. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
Traditional cask ales had demanded care on the part of the landlord. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
'Often you had an awful smell coming from pumps | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
'because they didn't wash their pipes. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
'And then, of course, you've got the keg bitter - coming in and turn on a tap. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
'That was considered very grand.' | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
Keg beer was, essentially, like bottled beer | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
but in a larger container, which you could serve on draft. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
It's beer which has been matured in the brewery | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
rather than maturing in the cellar. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
'Whereas before each area had its local beer and its local style, | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
'you now had national keg beers - Watney's Red Barrel, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
'Whitbread Tankard and Double Diamond.' | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
We've got Wandworth Six X, Foster's Best Bitter, Archer's Best Bitter... | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
'Then you had CAMRA, the real ale people, coming in and saying this was appalling, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
'you need to have it on the pump and carefully looked after in cellars and so on. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
'That was a very constructive revolution, I think.' | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-..On Sunday. If you are... -While brewing underwent a revolution, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:59 | |
the Welsh chapels were still fighting a losing battle to keep Sunday special. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
In 1975 - seven years after the last referendum - | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Non-conformist ministers took to the streets of Narbeth. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
If they want to open, leave them open. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
-That's you, that's your... -That is my point of view. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
We have a lot of young people who are being influenced | 0:20:18 | 0:20:23 | |
to take intoxicants and it's the bad example... | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
We know very well that smoking is, especially cigarette smoking as you are now, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
is harmful. We're definitely told that and yet you have a choice. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
-And you don't drink heavily? -Well, I have a few, like. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
-But a few only... -That's your pleasure? -That's our pleasure. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
-You wouldn't sign this for the sake of the future generation? -No, no. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
-You wouldn't? -No. -In the name of Jesus? -No. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
By the time the votes in this latest poll have been cast and counted, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
Wales was even wetter. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:58 | |
We were now happy to turn our backs on our Non-conformist heritage | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
and embrace more exotic influences. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
CARIBBEAN MUSIC PLAYS | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
'Not the South Sea Island Bar of the London Hilton, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
'but a sedate Gala hotel, for cocktails are now a serious business. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
'So serious that this event is a contest to see | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
'which local bartender can shake out the best gin-based concoction. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
'Altogether there are six cocktails competing for the taste buds of three judges. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
'The two professionals and one amateur are trying to judge between | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
'Smooth Operator, Foxy Lady or even Mumbles Fizz. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
'The winner is Cheryl Edwards with Smooth Operator | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
'by a short cocktail stick. It certainly seems a strong mixture.' | 0:21:50 | 0:21:55 | |
Four measures of gin and Cointreau a dash of cold Carib, and unsweetened orange juice | 0:21:55 | 0:22:02 | |
-and a dash of egg white. -'What made you dream that up?' | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
I don't really know, I just wanted to use Cointreau actually - | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
an orangey-flavour drink. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
By the 1980s, Cointreau was not the only foreign import | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
-hitting these shores. -Then you got the lager invasion. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:20 | |
Now, lager, in my opinion, is what the human body does to real beer. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:25 | |
You might as well drink your own productions...as drink lager. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
The problem with lager was that...its image. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:34 | |
It was initially sold as a temperance drink. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
'It was weaker than the stronger British ales. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
'It was viewed almost like Babycham or something.' | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
Any sort of macho man would not be seen dead drinking lager. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
This was about to change, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
as the brewers poured money into the marketing of lager as THE drink | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
for the young-man-about-town. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
# I said it was a pity that we had to hurry home | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
# Cos her 80-year-old mother was all on her own | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
# So she kissed him very nicely And said she'd phone | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
# Harp stays sharp to the bottom of the glass | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
# Harp stays sharp! # | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
It took over straight away with the youngsters. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
Yeah, I remember when they bought Labatts, the Canadian one - | 0:23:13 | 0:23:18 | |
'that caused a stir and it was absolutely taken by storm | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
'when it came over here first. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
'We sold more of that than anything at the time.' | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
With lager flooding the country, the Welsh temperance movement finally went under for good. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:36 | |
Publicans in Dwyfor are gearing up to open their doors on Sundays | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
for the first time in 115 years. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
'There was no mistaking the relief felt by publicans in Caernarfon last night. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
'The cheer went up as the last bastion against Sunday drinking fell. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
'It's the end of an era in Dwyfor. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
'From Sunday the pubs will be open in every part of Wales.' | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
'People said, "Well, that's that. We'll bury it."' | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
So we've jumped from being the most religious or dutiful society to one of the most secular. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:09 | |
The death of this last relic of the temperance tradition | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
coincided with the birth of a new term - binge drinking. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
# ..Don't ask me Why ask me... # | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
Fell out with the girlfriend | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and I've come out with the boys to have a good night out. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
-Few drinks, few beers, a dance and a home curry... -Take me home. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:37 | |
When you're with your friends you drink | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
and maybe you drink too much because your friends are drinking as well. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
I don't drink during the week, only if I'm out with my college friends. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
I drink about eight pints a night or something like that. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
That's how much I drink, depending how I feel. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
Ironically, in the view of some, it was the late temperance movement | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
that had helped create our heavy-drinking culture. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
The temperance movement did result in the divorce | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
of the practice of eating from the practice of drinking. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
If you go to France in the evening, they probably drank just as much | 0:25:10 | 0:25:14 | |
'as the wilder elements of Bala or Llanrhos, but they eat with it and they pace themselves. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
'The general practice in much of Wales is to drink | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
'as many pints as you can get by 11 o'clock.' | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
So you fill yourself up with beer, then you top yourself up with curry | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
and the end result is... | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
'a rather unsightly activity.' | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
'In small towns - Llanrhos, for example, Bala - | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
'they can be very rowdy. I've stayed in Bala on a Saturday. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
'Don't think of going to sleep if you're on the Main Street | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
'until about quarter to four.' | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
This pattern of heavy drinking creates serious problems | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
on the streets of Wales. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
'Wrexham after dark - North Wales Police say it's a hotspot | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
'for drink-related crime. They believe | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
'that they could cut violent crime by half here | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
'if they could reduce the amount of alcohol drunk. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:19 | |
'Combating the increase in binge drinking | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
'has called for increasing ingenuity. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
'In Wrexham, last year, police began ordering people who urinate in the street | 0:26:27 | 0:26:31 | |
'to clean up after them with a water jet.' | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
It's simply never been worse. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
There are more people out there, drink is cheaper, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
so people can drink more and our officers | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
'are being stretched to their limit, in terms of dealing with the aftermath.' | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
The problems created by binge drinking | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
reflect a fundamental change in our society. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
On Friday and Saturday nights, Welsh towns and city centres | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
are becoming the playground of the young. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
'In city centres, you tend to get pubs taken over | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
'by a certain age group and you don't have that cross section | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
'of the public, which sort of kept its own social control.' | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
When I first started drinking, you'd go in a pub | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
and there'd be the older regulars - normally all sat round the bar - | 0:27:14 | 0:27:19 | |
and you couldn't misbehave because if you did | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
it wasn't the landlord who'd tell you off, it was the regulars. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
The young kids were good. They'd come in and know all the old fellas, buy them a pint | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
and sit with them for a while and have a chat. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
You now have to have bouncers on the door of pubs - | 0:27:40 | 0:27:43 | |
you never used to have bouncers on the doors of pubs. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
That's...because it was a self-governing community, the pub. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
I can't understand about these places. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
How they... You see them out sick in town, falling around in the streets | 0:27:54 | 0:28:00 | |
and young girls... Surely somebody must be there to control them and say, "You've had enough." | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
With alcohol now a major health and social issue, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
can it be that we've forgotten the lessons of history? | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
By abandoning the legacy of temperance, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
have we released the demon from the bottle? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
There's a terrible lack of discipline in our life, I think. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
We've let things go too far. If we're going to let it go here now, | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
our country's going to become more pagan all the time. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
You do feel that things go in circles | 0:28:36 | 0:28:38 | |
and you're coming back to where drinking is a problem again. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:44 | |
'Drink is something that has been the ruination of the nation. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:50 | |
'It's been around an awfully long time.' | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
It might be our way for making up for lack of sunshine. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
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