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This programme contains flash photography. You are husband and | :00:00. | :00:19. | |
husband. You may now kiss the groom. It's a historical moment, one of the | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
first same`sex marriages to take place in England or Wales. H know | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
it's happened but it's going to take a while to actually compute that we | :00:28. | :00:30. | |
are husband and husband. John and Bernardo's wedding places them on a | :00:31. | :00:33. | |
legal par with married heterosexuals in every way. But their wedding | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
would have been unthinkable just 50 years ago. Do you think homosexuals | :00:40. | :00:47. | |
should be sent to prison? Yds. They were screaming abuse at me `nd then | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
they really started to beat me with truncheons. I didn't understand why | :00:52. | :00:55. | |
I was apparently so different from other people and I tried to kill | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
myself. Tonight we follow the couple who the papers have dubbed the | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
poster boys of gay marriage in the run`up to their big day. And through | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
the personal testimony of older gay men and lesbians, we reveal how | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
hundreds were imprisoned, threatened with electric shock therapy and even | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
tortured in a bid to rid society of what many believed was a crhme | :01:17. | :01:17. | |
against nature. What's your favourite dish that I | :01:18. | :01:38. | |
cook? I love all the things that you do in the oven. The last fish pie | :01:39. | :01:47. | |
that you did was very good. Bernardo and myself are very much products of | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
modern times in the sense that we met on the internet. We met nearly | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
six years ago and we've been living together since then. Bernardo is one | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
of the nicest, gentlest, authentic people I've ever met. He's just | :01:59. | :02:08. | |
really easy going. Makes my life very easy and very happy. H`lf a | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
century ago, when John was born England was an entirely different | :02:16. | :02:18. | |
place. Two men openly living together in a homosexual | :02:19. | :02:20. | |
relationship would have been hugely controversial. For many of ts this | :02:21. | :02:29. | |
is revolting. Men dancing whth men. Homosexuals in this country break | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
the law. It meant that many gay men led bleak, secret lives and those | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
who didn't were often persecuted. Nowhere was this more true than in | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
the army. It was the biggest mistake of my life to go into the army. I | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
was in the prison cell in Aldershot. They started to beat me and beat me | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
with truncheons. In 1958, John Crawford had to leave his boyfriend | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
when he was called up to do National Service. As he trained to sdrve | :03:00. | :03:07. | |
Queen and country he knew that to be exposed as a homosexual would result | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
in severe consequences. Tod`y for the first time, he's returnhng to | :03:13. | :03:18. | |
his former army camp in Alddrshot. I was so much on my own, even though I | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
was in the army. Until one day a guy turned up and I made friends with | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
him, and we were nothing else except friends. But the military police | :03:28. | :03:39. | |
suspected them of being mord than just pals. John was arrested and | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
then tortured. I was put into a police cell. I was not allowed to | :03:44. | :03:49. | |
sit on my bed every time thd guards changed they banged their truncheons | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
down the sides of the cell. So I couldn't possibly sleep. Thdy | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
started to beat me. They were determined to break me or they'd | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
have killed me one way or another and I admitted that, yes, I was | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
going with somebody but it was a guy that was nothing to with thd army. | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
That confession led to him being formally charged. A lack of evidence | :04:12. | :04:18. | |
meant the case was dismissed. Yet John was forced to complete his | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
National Service. There was something like 2000`3000 guxs in the | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
camp at that time. And everx single one of them knew me as the dffing | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
queer. And I had to live with this and I must admit, when I look back | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
on it now, I did try and colmit suicide. During the 50s, men like | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
John were systematically targeted by the authorities and the | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
decriminalisation of certain homosexual acts in 1967 did little | :04:48. | :04:56. | |
to change things. I grew up in a time when homosexuality was to some | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
extent on the fringes of society. So having gone from that to behng the | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
first to get married is... H don't know if I can actually comprehend | :05:08. | :05:14. | |
that really, fully. With eight weeks to go before they say I do, the | :05:15. | :05:21. | |
nerves are beginning to set in. I am nervous about getting marridd | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
because we're going into thd unknown but we are doubly nervous bdcause | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
it's the first time two men have got married in this country and that's | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
unprecedented. Just thinking about it, it's a big responsibility. A big | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
decision in your life. They're reaffirming their commitment to the | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
wedding by choosing their rhngs We are looking for wedding rings. | :05:48. | :05:50. | |
Fantastic. Are you going for matching bands? We just had a look | :05:51. | :05:56. | |
at your window and there ard two or three that we quite like. You like | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
that? I do like that. They `re the same but different. I quite like | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
that. John and Bernardo's wddding has been a long time in the | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
planning. They first contacted their local registry office months before | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
the Government even announcdd that gay ceremonies were to be m`de | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
legal. I got to know John over the summertime and he more or ldss made | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
it clear to me that he definitely wanted to be the first to h`ve a | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
same sex marriage whenever the law or the change was implementdd. But | :06:25. | :06:34. | |
signing up to be the countrx's Britain's first gay grooms has | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
caused them to rethink their wedding plans. One of the first couples to | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
exchange vows will be John Coffey and his Spanish fiance, Bernardo | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
Marti. John Coffey and Bern`rdo Marti from London are with ts.. Our | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
idea originally of the weddhng was just to be my partner, myself and a | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
couple of friends. Because we have been in the press, suddenly | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
everybody wanted to join us. It means their guests list has now | :06:56. | :07:01. | |
grown from two to 60. Did you ever think you'd see the day when you | :07:02. | :07:04. | |
were writing your own wedding invitations? It's a far cry from a | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
time when those in same`sex relationships were locked away and | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
considered mentally ill. People were committing suicide and it w`s still | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
quite a popular opinion that it was something that could be corrected. | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
At the age of 14 Roger Juer's parents sent him to a psychhatric | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
ward in a desperate attempt to cure him of homosexuality. I was | :07:29. | :07:34. | |
initially given hypnosis. How exactly it was supposed to work I | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
don't know but it didn't work. So then they tried something else which | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
was the use of an emetic, and they were giving me something whhch | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
actually made me throw up when I saw pictures of men, or when thdy | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
presented pictures of men. That s as far as my therapy went but other | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
people did have all sorts of things like electric shock therapy, which | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
was suggested for me. These dubious attempts to cure homosexuals | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
continued in the UK for dec`des I was 16 and that was 1972 whdn I | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
formed a passionate friendship with another young woman and I dhdn't | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
think of it as lesbian. We weren't doing anything sexually but the | :08:11. | :08:13. | |
school became concerned and at that point they called my mother in and I | :08:14. | :08:22. | |
was taken out of school. Celia began to fear that she might be a lesbian. | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
Being bookish I went to the library and I looked up the word lesbian and | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
what the book said was that lesbians were mentally ill, that thex came | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
from dysfunctional families, that they were perhaps somewhere between | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
men and women, not real womdn. Disturbed by what she had rdad, she | :08:44. | :08:45. | |
became increasingly isolated, depressed. I didn't underst`nd what | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
was happening or why I was apparently so different frol other | :08:53. | :08:53. | |
people and I tried to kill lyself. They fished me out of a rivdr full | :08:54. | :09:04. | |
of alcohol and drugs in the middle of the night and took me to the | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
mental hospital. Hundreds of women were placed in psychiatric | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
institutions simply for expressing their love for another woman. | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
Psychotherapy was the gentldst option but there were also what were | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
known as behavioural treatmdnts for sexual orientation at that time | :09:22. | :09:23. | |
which included things like dlectric shock treatment. In some rare cases | :09:24. | :09:31. | |
lobotomies were performed to remove sections of women's brains. Other | :09:32. | :09:38. | |
lesbians got raped in order to turn them into heterosexuals. I was lucky | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
in that I didn't have brain surgeries or any of the othdr sorts | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
of things that were being done. But when I left the mental hosphtal I | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
was very angry at what had been done to me. Do you want aversion therapy? | :09:51. | :09:57. | |
No! Do you want psychiatric aid No! By the mid`70s the idea that being | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
lesbian or gay was curable began to be challenged by an emerging gay | :10:02. | :10:08. | |
rights movement. The aims of the GLF were to go out and just say, "We are | :10:09. | :10:12. | |
here, we are queer and therd's nothing wrong with us. And G`A`Y | :10:13. | :10:20. | |
stands for as good as you". Yet for homosexuals living outside central | :10:21. | :10:22. | |
London, survival still depended on hiding their sexuality. Growing up | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
in an Irish Catholic home and realising you were gay pretty early | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
on, it wasn't an easy ride. Everything around you was tdlling | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
you were fundamentally wrong and evil I think is the word th`t's | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
used. To atone for what John had been told was his sin of | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
homosexuality he turned to God. At the age of 21 he became a novice | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
friar, signing up to a life of celibacy. Today, he's returned to | :10:50. | :10:57. | |
Chilworth Friary in Surrey. God it hasn't changed at all. I haven't | :10:58. | :11:09. | |
been here for 32 years. When I spent my year here, for me it was a | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
process of me facing myself. I thought if I went and joined the | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
church and became a Franciscan Friar, became a priest, somdhow that | :11:17. | :11:19. | |
would take care of everything but I suppose I became a non`sexu`l being. | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
But suppressing his true iddntity didn't work. This new Friar turned | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
up and I remember just seeing him for the first time and thinking oh, | :11:31. | :11:38. | |
my god. And it really was that something in his eyes and I began to | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
fall in love with him. John embarked on a relationship that lastdd six | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
years and spelt the end of his religious life. One of the strange | :11:47. | :11:57. | |
things about being here was that it protected me from what was going on | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
in the gay community at the time, HIV. Was it the right decishon to | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
leave this? Absolutely. I fdll in love. I think coming back hdre has | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
made me realise that you've just got to live your life and be who you | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
are. With just two weeks left, there is still a lot to be done bdfore the | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
big day so John and Bernardo have come to a gay wedding show. We are | :12:20. | :12:26. | |
thinking about a cake. Is that fruit cake? That's very cute. This is just | :12:27. | :12:36. | |
one of around 20 gay wedding shows staged in the last two months, | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
catering for the growing nulbers of same`sex couples who can now be | :12:41. | :12:43. | |
legally wed. But gay interest in the sanctity and tradition of m`rriage | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
is not new. There's a particular case form the News Chronicld in | :12:47. | :12:56. | |
1954. The bridegroom was a woman. Dressed as a man, 26`year`old Violet | :12:57. | :12:59. | |
Ellen Katherine Jones was m`rried in a church to Joan Leigh aged 21. | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
Curator Stefan Dickers has tncovered evidence that gay men and women have | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
secretly been getting marridd for decades. She wore blue trousers a | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
fawn raincoat and a light blue scarf, carried thick leather gloves | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
and her hair was cropped close. We have stuff from local press, | :13:13. | :13:14. | |
national press, documenting cases where people have felt themselves so | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
desperate and in need to make that commitment to their partner, that | :13:19. | :13:21. | |
they've gone to extreme lengths to do so. | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
John and Bernardo are hoping to be the first gay couple to be legally | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
wed and with only 13 days to go we've reached a key moment. 9am at | :13:33. | :13:42. | |
Westminster's registry office. Hi, good morning. It's the first day gay | :13:43. | :13:46. | |
partners can officially givd notice of their intent to be marridd. Today | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
you are here to give your ldgal intent to marry. That means that you | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
are both over the legal age consent. The fifth impediment has now gone | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
which was you had to be of different genders. Good. It's now obsolete, as | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
of now. Ensuring that the bdtrothed are of opposite sex may be ` thing | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
of the past but the tradition of questioning them individually | :14:06. | :14:10. | |
remains. So John, I need to ask you some questions about the man that | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
you intend to marry. Yes. For Bernardo it's a tense wait. Well, | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
I'm a bit nervous because they are going to ask me questions about my | :14:19. | :14:21. | |
partner, about John. And whdn it's his turn, Bernardo has to prove just | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
how well he really knows John. Now the man you intend to marry. What is | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
his date of birth please? I believe it's sixth June, 1963? Not puite. | :14:30. | :14:41. | |
Close. 62? Close. 64? The other way. 61. Yes. After a few hiccups, the | :14:42. | :14:48. | |
couple get the all clear. On the way out, they meet two brides`to`be | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
When are you actually getting married? On the 29th. I asstme you | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
are as well. Yeah, same day. We re getting done on the stroke of | :14:56. | :14:58. | |
midnight. Oh, you're that couple. We heard about you. We heard about you | :14:59. | :15:01. | |
when I called up. Oh, that's wonderful. In our case, we `re going | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
to be called husband and husband. Wife and wife. Yeah, we've `lready | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
tested it out a bit, wife`to`be and all that. There are several gay and | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
lesbian couples signing up to be married today. Many of them are | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
aiming to be England's first same`sex partners to walk down the | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
aisle. But technically, that title may already be taken. | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
I met Sue in 1984. We are professional psychologists. We met | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
at conferences. We founded ` friendship and it moved frol | :15:35. | :15:41. | |
friendship into something else. We became a couple in 1990. Work | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
commitments meant the coupld ended up in Canada. Canada was ch`nging | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
its law to permit same`sex larriage and suddenly there was this | :15:50. | :15:56. | |
possibility of getting marrhed. That is in the conservatory in bright | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Vancouver sunshine. The day we got married, we found when we wdre both | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
`` we woke up and were surprisingly nervous. We had a very small | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
ceremony at cider register `nd we were proclaimed wife and wife | :16:10. | :16:16. | |
together. And it changed evdrything. I had not anticipated what ht would | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
feel like to come in from the cold. I don't think I expected thd | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
emotional intensity of it. Ht really made a difference, being married and | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
not just a long`term couple. But when the pair returned home to | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
Britain, they discovered thdir marriage was null and void, not | :16:35. | :16:41. | |
legally recognised. This was before civil partnerships had been | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
introduced, so we had no protections under law. We were back at square | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
one, just a long`term coupld. Sue and Celia launched a high`profile | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
legal campaign to get their marriage acknowledged in the High Cotrt, | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
arguing that they were being discriminated against. The outcome | :16:58. | :17:05. | |
of that was sadly we lost. The judge ruled that that discriminathon was | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
justified, because it protected the heterosexual nuclear family. That | :17:10. | :17:12. | |
was a very disappointing, vdry distressing time, because b`sically | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
we had been stripped of our marriage. Yet eight years l`ter a | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
letter arrived from the govdrnment stating that their marriage would be | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
recognised on the 13th March this year ` a whole fortnight before any | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
other gay couple could legally marry. Great excitement, grdat joy, | :17:27. | :17:35. | |
really thrilled to be considered married and one of the first. We | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
questioned whether marriage would ever be legal in our lifetile for us | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
in this country. I can't believe that it has come so quickly. It is | :17:45. | :17:54. | |
an amazing feeling. Cheers. But Westminster's chief registr`r has | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
devised a plan to make John and Bernardo the first gay couple to be | :17:58. | :18:04. | |
legally married on English soil Here in Westminster we are going to | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
endeavour to ensure that John and Bernardo of the first coupld to have | :18:09. | :18:11. | |
same`sex marriage. March 29th was the first time that weddings were | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
allowed to take place at midnight and Alison planned her strategy | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
around this relaxation of the rules. The important thing is to ensure | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
that we get the timing is rhght We have checked our clock against the | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
speaking clock. We are geardd up to ensuring we issue the documdnt on | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
the stroke of midnight, or `s close to, to enable the legal words to be | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
said as soon as the authorities issued. Our couple are shopping for | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
wedding suits. When they exchange vows in ten days' time, it will be a | :18:42. | :18:47. | |
symbolic victory for gay eqtality. But there are many who belidve | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
allowing homosexuals to marry is a mistake. , sexuality somethhng that | :18:51. | :19:02. | |
damages society, I would sax that ultimately it would. I think the | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
situation today, where two len and two women want to be in a m`rriage | :19:08. | :19:14. | |
relationship is completely unprecedented context. Stephen and | :19:15. | :19:21. | |
Dennis are now married. I do, as a Christian, have strong reservations | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
about whether that is the bdst way for society. Married with two | :19:26. | :19:28. | |
children, Dr Davidson speaks from good experience. He was oncd gay | :19:29. | :19:37. | |
himself. And I am ex`gay? I never use the term gay, but there was a | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
time when my feelings for pdople of the same sex were quite strong and I | :19:42. | :19:49. | |
stepped out of marriage, or out of my relationship with my wifd. He | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
claims to have gone from gax to straight by using psychotherapy and | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
religious counselling, known in some circles as "pray the gay aw`y". So | :19:58. | :20:06. | |
tell me a bit about how things are. What He now provides this treatment | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
to others and controversially, has even used a bus ad campaign to | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
attract those who are unhappy with their sexuality. The What wd offer | :20:14. | :20:20. | |
is psychotherapeutic support for men and women who want to explore the | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
possibility, either to manage, reduce or in some cases where | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
possible eliminate, sexual feelings. But Dr Davidson's theories have been | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
rejected by the UK Council for Psychotherapy and his ad calpaign is | :20:34. | :20:34. | |
the subject of a court case. As brand stylist at a garden centre, | :20:35. | :20:44. | |
Bernardo is perfectly placed to pick the flowers for his own wedding | :20:45. | :20:53. | |
Flowers in a wedding means love They really create a special kind of | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
atmosphere in the venue. And with just five days left, the cotple have | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
come to view Mayfair Librarx, the venue of their wedding. Hello there, | :21:03. | :21:09. | |
how are you doing? Hello, Bdrnardo, nice to see you again. So, here we | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
are. The ceremony will take place at the top, after you have walked | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
together, hand in hand, down the aisle. We will talk about mtsic if | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
you are planning to have music to walk into. What are your first | :21:24. | :21:32. | |
thoughts? Very formal. We h`ve even got stained glass for you. The fact | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
it isn't a church is the ond detail that separates gay and strahght | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
ceremonies. Both the Church of England and the Catholic Chtrch are | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
doctrinally opposed to the hdea of same`sex unions and they ard | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
lawfully allowed to refuse gay couples. The Church respects | :21:46. | :21:55. | |
everybody, whether they are homosexuals are not, but in its | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
teaching on sex it says that sex is for marriage between a man `nd a | :22:00. | :22:03. | |
woman. It has this vigilant of sexuality for marriage, for | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
procreation. `` The church lay be struggling with the idea of gay | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
equality, yet there is no doubt that the last 20 years has witnessed a | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
radical transformation in attitudes and policies on homosexuality. This | :22:15. | :22:21. | |
vision. The government is shortly expected to make the process of gay | :22:22. | :22:29. | |
sex legal at 16. Two women have become `` have become the fhrst | :22:30. | :22:32. | |
couple to take part in the civil partnership ceremony. From the | :22:33. | :22:34. | |
dismantling of anti`gay leghslation like Clause 28, to the right to | :22:35. | :22:38. | |
adopt children, there has bden an about`turn in the establishdd view, | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
even in the most staid of British institutions. Tuesday 12th of June, | :22:42. | :22:53. | |
2007, in Basra. This is a dhary from when I went to Iraq. Last nhght I | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
had a long chat with Tom. I am lucky to have a person like Tom w`iting | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
for me back at home. At the age of 20, James served on the front line | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
in the Middle East as an opdnly gay man. But when he first enlisted in | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
the Army, he was warned to hide his sexuality. The day I joined the | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
Army, when I was 16, the person who was in charge of us during basic | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
training made it quite clear that he did not like gay people will stop in | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
his welcoming address he told us all, do not come out if you are gay, | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
because this is not the place for gay people. The homophobia lade it | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
difficult for James to inithally come out. But within a decade, | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
prejudice against gays in the Army had been transformed. I am really | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
pleased how the Army has ch`nged over the past ten years. Thdre are | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
many significant achievements. In 2008, we were allowed gay pdople in | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
the military, we were allowdd to march at London Pride in unhform. In | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
2010 I have my civil partnership to Tom and we enjoyed our reception | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
within the walls of the barracks, where I served in Knightsbrhdge | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
That is an incredible changd and today, there are hundreds of lesbian | :24:01. | :24:03. | |
and gay people in the milit`ry. James has come to the army base in | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
Aldershot. He's meeting John, who was imprisoned and abused for being | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
gay when he served over 50 xears ago. It has changed so much that I | :24:11. | :24:19. | |
don't recognise anything ovdr the last 50 years. I was at North camp. | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
It was not quite the Army I expected. I was put into thhs prison | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
and beaten and beaten and bdaten. My coming out situation was very | :24:30. | :24:32. | |
different. The law changed hn 2 04 gay people the military and all my | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
colleagues were fantastically supportive. Everybody was jtst so | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
nice. Are you pleased it has changed, that the military hs a lot | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
further forward with this? Xes, but it hasn't gone far enough in my | :24:48. | :24:50. | |
opinion. John has never got over the harsh treatment he endured while in | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
service here half a century ago Incarcerated, tortured and then | :24:55. | :24:56. | |
unfairly given a criminal rdcord, the injustices have haunted him ever | :24:57. | :25:06. | |
since. After what I went through with the Army, I would like very | :25:07. | :25:13. | |
much for the police to give me an apology. I know I will never get it, | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
but I would like it, after 40 years of hassle. | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
Life is now very different for gay men and lesbians in modern Britain, | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
a point underlined by John `nd Bernardo's wedding day. | :25:28. | :25:40. | |
After weeks of stress, final preparations are undertaken with | :25:41. | :25:47. | |
military position. `` posithon. Moments before the event, Bdrnardo | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
has something to tell John. John, I have a surprise for you. Oh, yes? | :25:54. | :26:01. | |
Oh, wow. Do you like them? They are not the rings we chose, but... These | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
are made from my dad's weddhng ring. Perfect. | :26:07. | :26:12. | |
As they set off to be wed, their guests are already taking their | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
seats. An unusual wedding from any perspective, the ceremony bdgins | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
with a bilingual short speech by the grooms. We want to acknowledge all | :26:23. | :26:31. | |
those people around the world who are persecuted for who they are We | :26:32. | :26:40. | |
are now going to light a candle to remember them in this joint | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
ceremony. Another peculiarity, John and Bernardo's heterosexual friends | :26:44. | :26:46. | |
Jose and Anoah are also getting married here tonight, to emphasise | :26:47. | :26:56. | |
the theme of equality. I wotld like to extend a warm welcome to you here | :26:57. | :27:01. | |
tonight, to these very spechal wedding ceremonies, which are | :27:02. | :27:04. | |
celebrating such a huge momdnt in the history of equality. Thd | :27:05. | :27:07. | |
pressure is on to ensure thhs is England's first gay wedding so | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
proceedings are halted to ensure the vows can commence just seconds after | :27:11. | :27:12. | |
midnight. Looking at your groom, please repeat | :27:13. | :27:29. | |
after me. Bernardo, I give xou this ring. Bernardo, I give you this | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
ring, as a symbol of my lovd and my commitment. John, I give yot this | :27:35. | :27:44. | |
ring. As a symbol. As a symbol of my love and my commitment. It only | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
remains for me now with the greatest pleasure to to declare that you are | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
husband and husband, so congratulations. You may kiss the | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
groom. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | :27:58. | :28:09. | |
. It has been a big release. Inside, I feel so good. The responsd of | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
people was amazing. Just looking at John, I could see both of us were in | :28:16. | :28:22. | |
the same mood, we were so h`ppy And Westminster Registry Office have | :28:23. | :28:24. | |
confirmed, John and Bernardo's certificates for marriage wdre | :28:25. | :28:27. | |
issued at the stroke of midnight and the wedding was completed whthin a | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
minute. That makes them the first gay couple to be married in England. | :28:33. | :28:37. |