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This programme contains strong language

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# Oh, I wish I was in Dixie

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# Away, away... #

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Wow...

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In this room, on this toilet, a vital part of rock history died.

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To many people, Mr Elvis Presley simply was rock 'n' roll,

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even when he got older and got a bit tubby.

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Before Mr Presley died, he ate a huge meal and I have here

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the coroner's report, which details the exact menu he ate.

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Nine 12-inch, deep-crust ham and pineapple pizzas,

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one roast pig,

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a can of Fanta,

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six side orders of fries,

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some bacon bits,

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12 burgers, four cobs,

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one Kentucky fried duck,

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a lion bar, a banana,

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a pint of eggs,

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a box of Dairylea Lunchables,

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some more Fanta,

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three Peperamis,

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nine pots of Chambourcy Hippopotamousse,

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two tins of peaches,

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some more Fanta

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and one pistachio nut.

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Mr Elvis Aaron Presley was discovered around 3am

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in this toilet, drenched in Fanta

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and face-down in his own gizzards.

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But it wasn't food that killed Elvis.

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It was success, too much of it, too quick and too fast.

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This week on The Life Of Rock we look at death,

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the end of rock.

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BELL TOLLS

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From a record company's point of view,

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death isn't always a bad thing. They love a death.

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The Doors wouldn't have sold anywhere near as many records

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if Jim Morrison had stayed alive.

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He'd probably be a judge on American Idol now.

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With his own range of pasta sauces.

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The biggest killer of lives and careers in this business

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is undoubtedly drugs.

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I, personally, have never taken them

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and if you speak to many of the great artists

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who worked in the '60s and '70s,

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the '80s and the '90s, even now,

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they will have known or worked with someone who has died

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taking the stuff.

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Brian says he never took drugs, right.

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He was too tight to buy drugs, that's what I'm trying to tell you.

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He had midget's arms and clown's pockets.

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You couldn't get the guy to buy a fucking round of drinks,

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never mind go out and buy a big bag of cocaine, for God's sake.

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No, they were dropping like flies.

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We're not talking about the odd joint and a pint of Parson's Punnet.

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This was mainlining heroin, three bottles of vodka...

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I mean, you'd show up at a party somewhere,

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you'd be having a nice chat with someone, you'd pop off,

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get yourself a pineapple and cheese on a stick.

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By the time you got back, they were dead.

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Often, when I went to parties,

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I'd be very concerned about the company I kept.

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If I saw anyone doing this...

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-..I'd leave.

-And if the press got wind of it,

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you'd get linked to that death, it'd hit your album sales.

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Makes you look very callous.

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Even getting the stuff could cause major problems,

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especially at the airport.

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Keith Richards got arrested for possession of heroin.

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In Japan, my old mucker, Macca,

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got pulled for having a bit of wacky baccy in his pockets.

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We got a load of seeds, kind of in the post.

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We didn't know what they were.

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We planted them all and five of them came up like...

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Five of them came up illegal.

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And Bjork-a also caused a stir when she arrived at Heathrow.

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She wasn't on drugs.

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She was just crackers.

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Someone like George Michael has survived a series of scandals,

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largely because no-one else has ever been harmed other than him,

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which is why he's still got fans and a career.

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Had he crashed into Happy Snaps and wiped out a few of the staff,

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instead of the window and the HP all-in-one colour copier,

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it'd be a completely different story.

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Scandal and rock music go hand in hand.

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But with the right scandal, you can sell a million,

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but your reputation can also take a bit of a bashing.

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'I got in hot water myself when I appeared on Saturday Night Live...'

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Lies!

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'..and tore up a picture of the Fonz.'

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E-vil!

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Looking back, I stand by what I did.

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For me, Happy Days symbolised everything

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that was wrong with America -

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a middle-aged Elvis impersonator kicking a jukebox and saying, "Ay!"

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And everyone cheers and claps,

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whilst across the world they're causing havoc

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with their aggressive foreign policy.

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It was just jet lag.

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# Come on, baby

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# You drive me crazy... #

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Jerry Lee Lewis's Great Balls Of Fire caused him

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great balls of trouble when he married a 13-year-old girl.

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You can't do that over here, buster.

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Bill Wyman had to wait three years before he could marry Mandy Smith

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and they lived happily ever after,

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for two months.

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First wife - homemaker, supportive, mother of his first child,

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usually met him before he was famous, put up with the poverty,

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helped him achieve his dream of stardom which enabled him

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to get the second wife who's got a prettier face and a smaller bum.

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-NEWS REPORT:

-'Mandy was only 13 when they met,

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'and their affair caused a scandal.'

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There was a few problems on the way but we finally made it.

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After a couple of weeks,

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they realised they've got nothing else to say,

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so he pines for the first wife who's since run off with the bloke

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who made the Victorian rocking horses for the kid he left behind

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when he was making the difficult album in Monterey.

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I'm glad he's finally taken the plunge.

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I don't think it's a good match. I said I'm happy for him.

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I don't know anything about it.

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-Do you think he'll settle down?

-That's another story. I don't know.

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If you pick up the phone,

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we might be able to dig up some nasty questions

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-about your past for you.

-Mmm.

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But not all younger women fall

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for the charms of a middle-aged rock star.

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Hello, Elaine.

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Actually, Kate, it's me, Brian Pern,

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and I need to speak to you very seriously.

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-Yeah.

-I'm not very good at this sort of thing.

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So here goes...

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I'm sorry about this, folks.

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I'm in love with you.

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I have left my wife

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and I want to swap my old life for a new life with you.

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We can have chickens and stuff...

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..and make wine.

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I'm outside the house. Let me in the window, please.

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Brian, of course, discovered Kate and organised all her demos,

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he played keyboards on

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Heathcliff, It's Me, Cathy, Let Me In Your Window,

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and loads of people were asking questions.

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We all knew something was going on

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cos he was married to Cindy at the time.

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It wasn't much fun watching that back,

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and that's a warning about drinking and dialling.

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Especially drinking and dialling to kids' shows.

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It made the papers.

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Managed to get his latest song to number 32 and, anyway,

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his wife was shagging Mike Batt, so what the fuck.

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# I am just a new boy... #

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Aside from drink, drugs and women,

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touring is the next biggest killer.

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Touring makes a man.

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It can also break a man.

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Why are roadies always men?

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All those awful, pasty men from Birmingham,

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bending down showing their fucking cracks.

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Why not have a young bird in a tight boiler suit or hot pants?

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That would have been something to look at.

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I wonder if Pink Floyd ever played the biscuit game.

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INTERVIEWER: What's the biscuit game?

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-Uh...

-INTERVIEWER: How do you entertain yourselves?

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I'd rather not say how we entertained ourselves.

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I had them all, all the big dogs.

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Jimmy P, Jimmy H, Jiminy Cricket.

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It was the '70s, that's what we did.

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I made moulds of their yam bags, you know?

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Their ball sacks!

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This is James Taylor right here.

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This is Carlos Santana's.

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These are Midge Ure's.

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Life on the road is a bit like anal sex.

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It starts off fun and exciting

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but it ends up a pain in the arse.

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Touring is boring.

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It's just dull, Kansas City on a wet Thursday afternoon,

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it's just...

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Every hotel room looks the same, and I'm sure Thotch and Brian Pern

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went through all that, you know, and that is enough to break any band up.

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When an artist goes solo,

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it doesn't always lead to the death of a band.

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In fact it can be a creative rebirth.

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# Waiting in the garden, by the shed

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# I saw you washing

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# Then making up your bed

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# Creeping through the bushes, over the fence

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# Into the window in the bathroom instead

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# I'm taking off my smalls

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# Do you mind if I have a bath?

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# Where's your flannel?

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# Let me wash and I'll use up your flannel

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# Ah-aah... #

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I finally left Thotch to pursue my solo career in 1978.

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It allowed me to have creative freedom

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and make the music I was interested in

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and them to make what they were interested in

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without me breathing down their necks.

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# Was ist das? Was ist das? #

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Did we miss Brian when he left?

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Of course not.

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He was becoming a fucking pain in the bottom.

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Thotch were more than just a band to us. They were everything.

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They were part of our development, our lives,

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they were a unifying force, and Brian...

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chose to throw it all away...

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..in pursuit of commercial success

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doing those rubbish songs that he did.

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Brian Pern left a really important group that people really loved

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and went into the wilderness.

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He went into the wilderness and then came back and used Plasticine

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and made Spirit Level and everybody loved him again.

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CALYPSO MUSIC

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Brian had a transatlantic number one right out of the blue

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with Spirit Level.

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Who'd have thought it?

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And, ironically, knocking Thotch off the top.

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What people forget is that, at that point in time,

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Brian Pern was to Thotch what Paul McCartney was to Wings.

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So it was like Wings carrying on without Paul McCartney.

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That probably wouldn't have worked.

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But as it happens,

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I really love the first two non-Brian Pern Thotch albums.

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Then, of course, they got shit.

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INTERVIEWER: What's it like leaving Thotch?

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Good! No, seriously, I put together a young band,

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some of the best musicians in England.

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They certainly do what they're told, anyway.

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Yeah, it's been a real challenge,

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working with Brian for the first time.

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He's, er...

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He's made me really think about my drumming.

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Last year, Brian sent me to Cambodia to...

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You know, there's been a civil war there recently,

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so when you suggested that, it was kind of, um...

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Er, well, you know, a bit of a head spin.

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I forgot to call him to ask him to come back, so he stayed out there.

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Yeah.

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For four months, wasn't I?

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-Four months...

-Certainly shown in the work.

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Yeah, had an interesting month in jail as well.

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-Lost a bit of weight.

-Yeah.

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These two don't speak.

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It's why I hired them.

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To be honest, I was never really enamoured with rock music.

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Tight trousers, guitar solos and four beats to the bar,

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so when I left Thotch, I travelled the world, listing for new sounds.

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MUSIC: "Gumboots" by Paul Simon

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I was like a bee landing on flowers in different lands,

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combining sounds and making a new kind of pollen,

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which is how I invented world music.

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HE GURGLES TUNEFULLY

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HE CONTINUES GURGLING

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TUNEFUL TWANGING

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She's OK, just...

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Just keep her off the drink and she'll be all right.

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HIGH-PITCHED SINGING

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-Ouch!

-Pepita, can we...

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Can we have some playing without you hurting yourself?

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The pain and the music, they go together,

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just like in life, you know?

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STRANGLED: You cannot separate the two.

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Hello, I'm here with Pepita Arugo Sanchez Montaya,

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who has come from Mexico

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and she is going to help us with this song, I believe.

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I am honoured to be here. You are the James Bond man?

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-Uh, yeah.

-Yeah!

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So you do... SINGING: Goldfinger!

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-Well, no, that wasn't...

-It was not you?

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Did you do... SINGING: Moonraker!

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That's John Barry.

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What about... SINGING: Skyfall!

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-That wasn't me either, no.

-So what did you write?

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Uh, I did Tomorrow Never Dies,

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The World Is Not Enough,

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Die Another Day, Casino Royale,

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Quantum Of Solace.

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Congratulations.

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I think if we can get this down,

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man, woman in space,

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first time they see each other.

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Heartbreak, you want heartbreak.

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# As I saw you

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# Across the Milky Way... #

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That's beautiful.

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# We could hold hands yesterday

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# But we were not alone

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-# Mmm-hmm-hmm! Ah-ah-ah

-I had some powdered milk

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# Milky Way!

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# Ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay..! #

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-I can't do this.

-# In space!

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-# Oh..! #

-This isn't going to work.

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# Oh!

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# I know you're waiting for me-ah! #

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That's actually from a different... That's a different song.

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But we will do it better. So we will mix together, it's called a mashup.

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If the world music world lost Brian Pern,

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it would lose a window

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into the world of music.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-Do you like world music?

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Um...

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World music, uh,

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no.

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It might be better, Brian...

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-SHE HOLLERS

-..if the piece was in a booth,

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-SHE TRILLS AND BARKS

-Then we got control.

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Maybe we could check the vocals.

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-You want to bring me in a box?

-Yes.

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-This is not going to work.

-Why?!

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-You're drunk.

-I am not drunk.

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I had a tiny bit because I am nervous in front of the man from Moonraker!

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I cannot be in a box.

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-We've got a pineapple.

-What does this mean?

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You are going to chop off my head?

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No, that's what they do in your country.

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When successful artists reach a certain age, things change.

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The time for throwing televisions into swimming pools is over.

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The groupies have all grown up and bought organic bakeries.

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The fourth wives are in full effect

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with their handbags and small children,

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and they're stuck alone in giant stately homes

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they can't afford to heat.

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What do they do?

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Well, those with money embark on ridiculous hobbies,

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which no-one else is interested in,

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which cost a small fortune.

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MUSIC: "Je Suis Un Rockstar" by Bill Wyman

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BRUCE ROARS

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We all made far too much money.

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Some people enjoy it,

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but after you've unloaded yourself on a thousand pairs of knockers...

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HE INHALES

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..what do you do next? I don't know.

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Hobbies? Well...

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It's just about avoiding the wife and kids, isn't it?

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-LOUD BUZZING

-A lot of people use earphones,

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but being a musician, I can avoid that.

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Dad's always traditionally popped off down the garage

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to make his model aeroplanes or whatever.

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-BUZZING

-Metal fillings.

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These people don't have garages.

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They've got aircraft hangers.

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-BUZZING

-It does, they're great.

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Alice Cooper plays golf.

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Can't get anybody to play with him, though.

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He turns up in all that mascara, a plastic baby in his golf buggy

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and a snake round his neck. He's 62.

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And that bloke from Blur makes cheese.

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In Guantanamo Bay, they stuff cheese up the prisoners' noses

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and play Blur songs to them all day to break their spirit

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and get them to talk.

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With remarkable success, I hear.

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-INTERVIEWER:

-You've done a lot for the welfare of ants, haven't you?

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Oh, ants, yeah.

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-You've got ant farms?

-We used to. We've sold them now.

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At a great profit, I might add, but, yeah.

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Save the ant, mate.

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That's what I think, cos I think they're in trouble.

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I have a genuine Victorian liquorice still in my home

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and I make the occasional batch of liquorice for my children.

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They actually prefer Cadbury's Heroes.

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I say to them, "That's all very well when you're with your friends,

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"but when you're here with me,

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"it's liquorice, and it's my liquorice."

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Other rock stars have hobbies of far greater importance,

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like saving the rainforests.

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May I talk first of all to Chief Raoni?

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You've travelled thousands of miles from the Amazon to be with us.

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How are your people

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and how is the forest threatened?

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They are fucked, Terry, to be honest. Absolutely.

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They're cutting down an area the size of Milton Keynes every day

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just to make the world's envelopes.

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Is there anything about our life here that he thinks is good?

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Uh, bouncy castles.

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Sting, how did you get involved in this campaign?

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I was on tour in Brazil.

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I was doing these big concerts, big stadiums in Brazil.

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I came to see him. I loved the "do-do-do, da-da-da-da",

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but he didn't do it that night cos it was a solo tour.

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Every time I turned a corner, this man was here pestering me,

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saying, "You have to come to the jungle, it's so important

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"you come to the jungle", and I was trying to avoid him.

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-I was like, "I'm not a tourist..."

-Yeah.

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"..I'm working, I'm very busy."

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-But do get rid of this man, I had to agree to go.

-Ha!

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It makes you angry.

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You really feel as if your children

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have been robbed of something very beautiful.

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It's like looking at a rape.

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You see somebody being raped in the street, you want to stop it.

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Fucking 'ell, Sting, that's a bit heavy, innit?!

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Although Sting and I don't see eye to eye on many things,

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he is right to champion nature,

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for it is in the wild where music began.

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# Africa, Africa, birthplace of man... #

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People thing humans are the only people who make music.

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No, it started in the jungle,

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with the croaking of the frog,

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the call of the cuckabird

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and the hiss of the snake.

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# Africa, Africa, birthplace of man... #

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I have come to a research centre in London to meet Danson,

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a gorilla with extraordinary musical abilities.

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I know we all laugh at the ape

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in the Cadbury's advert who played the drums,

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but this is no joke.

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Danson, here, is a Grade 8 pianist.

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We decided to meet up for a jamming session and this is what happened.

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OK, Danson, this is Brian.

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Don't look him in the eye, keep your head down.

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The most important thing, he doesn't feel threatened by you, OK?

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You've got nothing to worry about.

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DANSON GRUNTS

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-It's Brian, Danson.

-Hello, Danson.

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Hello. What do I... Here?

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Yeah.

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Don't look him in the eye. Keep your head down.

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Head down, please.

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Recently, Sarah, here at the institute has contacted me...

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..and we, uh,

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have had the idea of introducing musical lessons

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into some of the apes'...

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..schooling, I suppose it is, if you want to call it that,

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and I've, uh...

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I've been Skyping with Danson and sending him

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various musical soundscapes and textures

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and he has become quite adept at playing the keyboard.

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Uh-uh! Uh-uh!

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Uh-uh! Uh-uh!

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-Sure it's OK? He doesn't seem...

-Go ahead, it's fine.

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I assumed we'd be behind a form of screen for this.

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-No, he's just being playful.

-Can you not come and sit here?

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I don't want to get in the way of the interaction

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between the two of you. He's a big fan of your work.

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OK, what do we do now?

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-Accept the gift.

-Do I take it?

-Accept the gift.

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Thank you, Danson.

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He seems like a friendly guy.

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Do I bite it?

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He's had it in his mouth, so, yeah, it should be OK.

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He's had it in his mouth?

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Give that a miss.

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When I was working with Danson over Skype,

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I would lay down a very flat tone

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and Danson would embroider it slightly with some simple keys,

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which is what we're going to try and do again now. Danson, you ready?

0:20:330:20:37

HE HUMS CONTINUOUS TONE

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DANSON PLAYS KEYBOARD DEMO

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Danson, play properly.

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No, no, that's wrong. It's OK.

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Let's try it again, Danson, OK?

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What we did before, remember? On machine?

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HE HUMS CONTINUOUS TONE

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Now. You have to play now.

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-Play... No.

-DANSON PLAYS DEMO

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Pressing the, uh...

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-He's play next time.

-..the demo.

-He's just playing up.

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Is he ready?

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He's going to make a monkey out of me.

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OK, ready, Danson?

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Know what to do?

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HE HUMS CONTINUOUS NOTE

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Come on.

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Come on, Danson, you know what to do.

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-HE PLAYS DEMO

-Oh, come on, Danson.

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DANSON GROWLS AND BRIAN YELPS

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Danson! Calm!

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Calm! Calm! Danson, calm!

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Calm! Calm!

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BRIAN SQUEALS

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Get away from me!

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DANSON GRUNTS AND BRIAN YELPS

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HE SCREAMS

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These days, you're just as likely to see recording artists like me

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on Later With Jules as you are on the Today programme,

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which I'm about to be on now.

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Ah, morning, Brian, lovely to see you.

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-Hello, John.

-How are you doing?

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-I'm OK, I'm OK.

-I love what you're doing, this thing with gorillas.

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Love gorillas, great animals, aren't they?

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As much as I love rock stars, and they are my bread and caviar,

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exposing themselves to the bull pit that is the newsroom?

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Terrible mistake. It was awful.

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And the time now is 21 minutes past eight.

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This week, the tireless campaigner and rock star Brian Pern

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launches his new campaign to save the mountain gorilla

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with a new charity record and tour and he joins us in the studio.

0:22:350:22:39

-Hello, Brian.

-Hi, John.

-Brian, a lot of people are going to be asking

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a single question about all this - why?

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Why what?

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Why is a multimillionaire rock star like you, you're loaded, obviously,

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asking the likes of us to donate money for saving gorillas

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when we haven't got any money ourselves?

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We're broke - why should we care,

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why should we listen to you, basically?

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We, as musicians, owe the animal kingdom a huge debt.

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And these creatures are just as musical as us.

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In some cases, even more so.

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So, you've released this song which features a real gorilla,

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a real gorilla, on backing vocals to raise money.

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-Yes.

-What do you intend to do with the money?

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Well, we want to use the money to supply

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the remaining Rwandan gorillas with bulletproof vests

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and also tin helmets

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to protect them from poachers.

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We also want to train them to use iPads so they can warn each other

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of possible attacks and weather systems and so forth.

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I can't believe this.

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I struggle to get my 13-year-old boy to put his blazer on

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to go to school in the morning

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and you want to track down thousands of wild animals and put them

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in bulletproof vests and hats and then teach them to Skype!

0:23:460:23:51

I mean, we're talking here about wild animals, thousands of them,

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in dense jungle, and you're going to make them computer-literate

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and even if you manage that,

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you've got to get a signal into the Rwandan jungle.

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The Rwandan jungle is not exactly renowned for its Wi-Fi hotspots.

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Brian, you're living in cloud cuckoo land, aren't you?

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You are, aren't you?

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Come on, are you or are you not living in cloud cuckoo land?

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Cloud cuckoo land, yes or no?

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-I... No!

-Well, I'll take that as a yes.

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-Brian Perry, many thanks.

-Pern.

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Pern, hmm.

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These days, it's not just the planet that needs saving -

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it's music.

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When you look at the state of the charts today,

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it's not surprising that some of the biggest bands bury the hatchet

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and go back on the road that one last time.

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# Why can't we be friends..? #

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They all say it.

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Blondie, Fleetwood Mac, Stone Roses, Velvet Underground, Pink Floyd -

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they all say they're not going to reform, but then they do.

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Well, The Eagles famously said

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they'll only get back together when hell froze over.

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It must have frozen over 16 fucking times in the last six years.

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It's just so the kids can tick a little box and say,

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"I've seen the Rolling Stones."

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Did you see them at Glastonbury?

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I watched it on TV in my house. I could not fucking believe it.

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It was like Last Of The Summer Wine directed by fucking George A Romero.

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Bands reform for money.

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-INTERVIEWER: It's not cos of the fans?

-No, it's for money.

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They couldn't give a shit about the fans.

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Usually, one of the group who didn't write the songs

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has finished up signing photos of himself at record fairs

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and another one thinks he's got Alzheimer's.

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The other two claim they're doing it for the first two,

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but that's bollocks cos they're doing it for themselves

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cos their alpaca farms have been hit by foot and mouth,

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they've given all their money to a bloke called Bernie,

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and they're six million in debt

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and not everyone has the ability to do conga adverts like Kevin Bacon.

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-INTERVIEWER: Do you think you'll ever, ever, ever reform?

-No.

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You wouldn't want to?

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-No.

-Could you be in the same room as him?

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No.

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I...

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I don't think we'll ever...

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reform with Brian.

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He thinks he's above us.

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I mean, he's not even interviewing us now.

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One of his lackeys...

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..is doing it.

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# We are the champions, my friend... #

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Rock is an immortal force.

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No matter how old or young or decrepit, music will always live on,

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through jukebox musicals and tribute bands.

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It'll be repackaged and remastered,

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in box sets and on reunion tours.

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We are indeed the people we thought we might be when we were young.

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We are the champions of the world.

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# We are the champions

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# Of the world. #

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CHEERING

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BELL TOLLS

0:26:520:26:54

So part three is about death?

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-It's called "Death".

-Yes, it's called "Death", yes.

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And when does all this go out?

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It's going to go out the same week as the Brits.

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So?

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Well, Brian's winning a lifetime achievement award, isn't he?

0:27:080:27:11

Not any more, he's not.

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-Why not?

-I turned it down for you.

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-John, tell me you're joking!

-What do you want one of them for?

0:27:140:27:17

If anything in this business means death, it's one of them.

0:27:170:27:20

-John!

-Brian!

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Not one of my clients has ever won a lifetime achievement award

0:27:210:27:24

and that's is the way it's going to stay, all right?

0:27:240:27:26

Anyway, they were only going to give it to you if you did a medley

0:27:260:27:29

with Miley Cyrus and we don't want her twonking around you, all right?

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I've been in touch with some of my friends

0:27:320:27:35

at the top end of the culinary world,

0:27:350:27:38

principally Heston,

0:27:380:27:39

and together we're actually developing a liquorice gas.

0:27:390:27:43

That dream will be realised very soon

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and I'm really looking forward to that day.

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So we've been working on this idea of somehow unrequited love.

0:27:480:27:52

You don't really know where it's going to go.

0:27:520:27:55

We know about that, don't we, Brian?

0:27:550:27:57

We were lovers when we were 14.

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What? We certainly weren't.

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No, I was 13.

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That's not very funny.

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At the moment, in this country,

0:28:040:28:06

it's the wrong time to say that sort of thing.

0:28:060:28:08

Yeah.

0:28:090:28:10

Rock is an immortal force.

0:28:100:28:12

No matter how old or decrepit or devalued it becomes,

0:28:120:28:15

it will live on through jukebox musicals,

0:28:150:28:19

tribute bands and photographic albums

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-featuring people...

-There's someone in the background.

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Excuse me.

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We're filming here.

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Sorry.

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DRAMATIC MUSIC

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TENSE MUSIC

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MUSIC BUILDS TO CRESCENDO

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HE BLOWS TUNE ON KAZOO

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