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Hello, I'm Frank Skinner, and welcome to Room 101. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
Now, dumping their dislikes into the dreaded vault tonight are | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Gogglebox Scarlett Moffatt, | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Brainbox Charlie Brooker, | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
and Police Box, Pearl Mackie. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
OK, shall we kick off? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:55 | |
So what's upsetting Charlie Brooker? | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Ah, yeah. This is Anything I Don't Want To Do. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
Now, I recognise this is quite a broad one. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
-Mm. -And it's a category that I find has expanded | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
the older I get, basically. There's a rule, | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
there's a basic rule of thumb that I think is called Sturgeon's law, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
usually applies to film and TV and literature, | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
that 90% of everything is rubbish, and isn't worth bothering with. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:29 | |
Most places aren't worth going to, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
most conversations aren't worth having, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
most things aren't worth eating, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
most items and objects in the world aren't worth looking at, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
or contemplating. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
I don't want to go to a forest, or a picnic, or watch your play, | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
or read a book, because it's not worth doing. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
And it really comes into focus at weekends, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and you can't just, apparently, sit around in the house | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
just staring at a phone all the time, because that's sort of bad. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
And the kids know this, as well, because they've discovered iPads | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
and phones, and everyone would rather be looking at those | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
all the time, obviously. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
But because, out of a sense of duty and guilt, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
you end up going to a playground, or on a picnic, or to a bloody museum, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
and most things aren't worth bothering with. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
OK. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:15 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:02:15 | 0:02:16 | |
Well, thanks for coming. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
I would say that, often, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
there are things you think you aren't going to enjoy, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and then when you do do them, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
you actually find out they're much more pleasurable than you thought. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
And I have to say, I've used that line a few times. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
What about the theory of deferred gratification, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
it's that you do something you don't want to do now | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
because you'll get the reward at some point in the future? | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
I'll give you an example. When I take, if I'm wearing a jumper... | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
-Right... -..when I take it off, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
I always pull the sleeves out the right way again, and I think, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
"When I come back to this jumper... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
"..set to go." | 0:03:05 | 0:03:06 | |
That's bleak. That is the bleakest thing I've ever heard. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
Coming from Charlie Brooker, I take that as an enormous compliment. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
Is that... | 0:03:15 | 0:03:16 | |
That's a thing? | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
That's the first place you go to when I talk about pleasure, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
is you think about the thing you do with the arms of your jumper? | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
I'm talking about thinking ahead to make my life sweeter | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
at a later date. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Jumper preparation. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
I feel like you need a hug. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
-Like a proper hug. -No! | 0:03:36 | 0:03:38 | |
But if you're only enjoying 98... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, sorry, 2% of your life... | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
It's not that... It's not that I'm not enjoying. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
It's just that the rest of it probably isn't worth bothering with. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
It would have made no difference to my quality of life if 98% of things | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
hadn't happened. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
How do you decide on the 2%, though? | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
Er, there's probably... | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
There's probably a couple of desserts I've had I've liked. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Probably the birth of my children. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
OK, that's a good one to put in there, yeah, yeah. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
I'd probably put that somewhere in there. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
I tell you what I would... I agree with you that I don't think | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
we should do things because other people think we should do them. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
I'd agree with that. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:17 | |
I mean, take this picture of a lovely beach holiday. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
-God, I respect that Goth. -I love that. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
That's brilliant. She's just like, "No, no, I don't do bikinis. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
-"I'm not having it." -Can you imagine it? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:35 | |
And the money she's saved on suntan lotion, fantastic. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
What about this painter and decorator who didn't want | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
to move some boxes? | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
You see what your attitude does to the world, Charlie? | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
That's more interesting than a plain wall, though, isn't it? | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
That's an admirable spirit. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Well, the idea of doing what you don't want to do, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
we've got an example here of a dad trying to persuade his child to do | 0:05:00 | 0:05:05 | |
something they don't want to do. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:06 | |
And it shows, with a bit of clever thought, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
it's amazing what you can achieve. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
THEY SPEAK OWN LANGUAGE | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
I like that. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:39 | |
I just think you're liable... If you don't do things | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
you don't want to do, you're liable to not make fabulous discoveries. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
Like, I recently went camping... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
-Ugh... -..and they asked me to... -Oh, I know, yeah. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
-Come on! -That's a bad one to pick. -That's not it, that's not my... | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
And they asked me to build a bonfire, and I thought... | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
"I really don't want to build a bonfire." | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
I built a bonfire, I loved it. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
I stared at that bonfire for an hour and a half. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:08 | |
If I had the choice between Netflix and a bonfire, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:12 | |
I would rather have a bonfire. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
And I would not have discovered that if I'd adopted your attitude of, | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
"No, I don't want to do that so I'm not going to do it." | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
Speaking of which, I've got a show on Netflix, so up yours! | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
Yeah, believe me, I've got several shows on the bonfire. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
OK, and so to Scarlett. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
-Crocs. -CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
-I hate Crocs. -They're awful. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Awful. Look at them. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
That makes my heart angry, just looking at that illustration. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Awful. Like, I don't understand, like, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
who sat down, and thought, "Right, we want a waterproof shoe, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
"so what we'll do is put holes in it"? | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Like, it makes no sense at all, and, like, no-one's ever, like, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
bought an outfit, and went, "I know what'll just set these off nice, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
-"a pair of Crocs." -Well... -Who's done that? | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
And they've brought, like, nice designer types out. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
They're still Crocs. It doesn't matter if you stick jewels on them, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
make them fancy colours, prints, look at that design! | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
-I think it's... -Why are they so wide? -Yeah, why are they so wide? | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Whose foot is that wide? | 0:07:27 | 0:07:28 | |
No, I'm with you, I totally... | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
That's what... I love their width, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
because when I've been wearing them a couple of hours, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
my feet start to settle. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
Oh... | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Honestly, I take them off, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
and none of my toes are touching each other any more. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I can comb, I can actually comb with my foot. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Like, what outfit would you wear with your Crocs? | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
Well, I'll tell you something now, I do the bins in the Crocs. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-Yeah. -And I mow the lawn. -What if you get bin juice | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
-on your foot, though? -Yeah. -There's holes in them. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
-I'm prepared to live with that. -I couldn't deal with that. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
And I mow the lawn, I do the garden, so I don't go that far. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I would say that my Wi-Fi extends further than my Croc usage. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
So even you know how ugly they are, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:13 | |
because you wouldn't go out in public with them. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
No, because of people like you making it a stigma! | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
I'm wearing Crocs now. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:20 | |
No, you're not! | 0:08:20 | 0:08:21 | |
-I am! You can see how long I've been wearing this pair. -Oh, no, don't. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
I will... | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
I will trim these, eventually. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
But, no, I think they're very, very... | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I can really relax in them. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
Let's say I'm at a barbecue, par example. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
And I always think there's not enough roughage at a barbecue, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
so I serve Brussels sprouts. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
Here they are. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
Just boiled. And what I do, there's no strainer, ever, so I... | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
Oh! | 0:09:01 | 0:09:02 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE ..slip the Croc off. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:09 | |
Oh, wow! | 0:09:09 | 0:09:10 | |
And then I can... | 0:09:12 | 0:09:13 | |
I can offer these round. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:16 | |
I just grab the slingback, and say, "Jeff, would you like a sprout?" | 0:09:16 | 0:09:21 | |
And we're in business. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
Come with me. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:28 | |
-Good idea? -I mean, do you take it off your foot | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
to then strain with it? | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
-Yeah. -OK. That is what I was scared of, yeah. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
Does that affect the flavour? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:39 | |
Well, I wear socks with them. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
-Oh, no. -What? -Well, what's the point of wearing them, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
if you're going to wear socks? | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
Then you're not even getting the air around your feet. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Oh, well, let me show you. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:51 | |
What... These are the socks I wear them with. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
And... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:01 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
People don't even know I'm wearing them, it's amazing. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
Also, you know, I like to cook at home. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
One thing that annoys me is when you get a beef patty. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:17 | |
Whereas, I like proper minced beef. The scent of minced beef. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
So what I do... | 0:10:24 | 0:10:25 | |
..I... I take off a Croc. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
AUDIENCE GROANS | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
-I... -Oh, God. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
I load it. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:35 | |
Oh, no, I can't bear it. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
This is like a sick Channel 4 documentary. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:39 | |
I need a plunger. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
THEY GROAN | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
No, that's worse than I thought it was going to be. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
Look at that! | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
You have showed me every other use of a Croc, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
other than actually its job, which is being a stylish shoe. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:05 | |
You don't want to be able to strain | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
your Brussels in your sandals, do you? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
You don't. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
OK, so what is winding up Pearl? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Yeah! Yeah! | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
I hate mosquitoes. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
They serve, like, absolutely no purpose, apart from to bite you, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
and just make you feel massively uncomfortable. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
It's like... | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Why are they there? Why do they exist? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
All they do is bite your skin, suck your blood a tiny bit, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
tiny bit, just enough to make you, like, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
completely uncomfortable for the rest of the evening. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Do you know what I mean? And also, malaria, that's pretty rude. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
I'm not really down with that. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
And they only, have you noticed, they only have... | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
-That little sound they make... -SHE MAKES HIGH-PITCHED SOUND | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
That little sound, they only make that, after they've | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
already bitten you. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
-Did you know that? -Is that true? -I discovered that recently. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Yes, it is. Yeah, and that's like, not only have you bitten me, yeah? | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
But then it's like you're insulting me. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
You're adding insult to injury, you're then going... | 0:12:14 | 0:12:16 | |
"Bitten you!" | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
-That's not OK. -Is that genuinely true? | 0:12:18 | 0:12:20 | |
Yeah, it's the blood vibrating inside them. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
-Is it? -Wow, that's amazing. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
That's like after you drink a cup of tea and you go, "Ah!" | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
-Yeah, exactly! -Next time I'll just go, "Yeah, I hope it chokes you!" | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
But they can bite you as many times as they want, can't they? | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
It's not like bees, sting you once and they're dead, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
and you're, like, "Oh, honourable, you know. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
"I appreciate what you've done." | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
You know, you wouldn't have done it if you didn't mean to. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
Mosquitoes are there just like, "Om, nom, nom, nom, nom." | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Well, I've got to say, you're in very good company, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
because here's someone else who doesn't like mosquitoes. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
The Democrats... | 0:12:54 | 0:12:55 | |
Oh, it was a mosquito. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
I don't want mosquitoes around me. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
I don't like mosquitoes! | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
I don't like those mosquitoes, I never did. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
OK. Speaking of mosquitoes... | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
..hello, Hillary, how are you doing? | 0:13:09 | 0:13:10 | |
-AUDIENCE: -Ooh! | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
-Ooh! -What I like about that, "I don't like mosquitoes, I never did," | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
as if there was a time when they were quite popular. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
I think it's really rude as well that they only bite certain people. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
Like, what's that about? I was at my friend's house the other day, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
on her balcony, I'd been out there for about five minutes, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and I had about seven mosquito bites on me already. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
And I said to Emma, I was like, "Emma, do you have any, like, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
"mosquito bite cream?" | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
"Anything like that?" And she's like, "Oh, no, no, sorry, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
"they don't really affect me. They don't really bite me." | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
And I'm, like, "What?!" | 0:13:42 | 0:13:43 | |
Why have they just munched me? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
And, like, both my other friends are completely fine. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Feel privileged that you're the chosen one. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
But I'd rather not be, though, do you know what I mean? | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
It's good to feel wanted. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:54 | |
-Yeah. -I hate to tell you this, Pearl, but one study | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
showed people... | 0:13:58 | 0:13:59 | |
..whose hygiene was not quite... | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
Basically, sweatier people get bitten more often. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
I am quite a sweaty person. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
-Maybe that's it. -Oh, well, there you go. They like a bit of seasoning. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:16 | |
I can't change that, though. What do I do about that? | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
Wear Crocs, they're very... | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Let the air blow through you. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
OK, we come to the end of that round. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Now then, I... | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
I don't feel I can put Crocs in. I think... | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
I wear them, and that would seem hypocritical. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
I think there's a bit of snobbery about Crocs. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
I think people with wide feet, really, it's changed my life. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
You wear your fancy stilettos, but when you get to a certain age, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:50 | |
you need that space. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
I thought about putting in things I don't want to do. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
But I don't want to. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
So I'm going to put mosquitoes into Room 101. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Yes! Yes! | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Get them in there. Get in! Get in! | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
What's upsetting Scarlett? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
Right, Little Cartons Of UHT milk, now... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
Like, what is it? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
Someone once told us that it was evaporated milk, so how is it there? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
And, like, it never has a sell-by date on. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
-No. -It never says cow's milk. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
So I don't know what... | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
..it's come from. It could be any animal. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
And, just, they're always the size of thimbles. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
Like, who has that much milk in their tea? | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Just make them a bit bigger. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
If you're going to go through all the hassle of making a | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
tab that you can't open, that you've got to struggle with, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
so half of it spills out, make it bigger. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
So, how many would you use in a cup of tea? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
-About eight. -No? -Genuinely. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
You would use eight? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
Because they're that big. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
I know, but sometimes I'll just make the tea black, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
and I'll drink it with UHT chasers. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
Straight down. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:35 | |
Milk's a natural thing, isn't it? That's why it goes off. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
It shouldn't last years. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
Do you know what I mean? It shouldn't. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
-But that's progress, isn't it? -No. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
The life expectancy of human beings have increased, why not milk? | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
I just don't... Like, they never have sell-by dates. It's dangerous. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
Well, it can't be that... Surely they wouldn't... | 0:16:57 | 0:17:00 | |
The Government would... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Stamp down on this, surely, if it was deadly? | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
What does it even stand for? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
It sounds like something you need a course of antibiotics. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
UHT. "Oh, I'll have some UHT." | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-It sounds... -"I wouldn't want to catch UHT, lasts for ages." | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
Yeah, exactly. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
And I just don't want to be drinking something that sounds like that. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
Do you go to the tanning salon, ever? | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
What's a tanning salon? Like a spray tan? | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
No, when you go, and you lie on a sunbed. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
Oh, no, I don't do that, I just fake it. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
I find they make a fabulous pair of... | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
That's brilliant. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
That is brilliant. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
Not only that, but it's not the only sensitive area on your body, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
obviously, so I also wear... | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
They call me Pot Noodle at the tanning salon. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
I quite like the novelty of opening them. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
You just need to get out more. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
It means you're not at home, doesn't it? It's a little treat. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
Think of it as fun-sized milk. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
One thing I like about them is I still play with my Action Man. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:22 | |
I'm a big... | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
And I particularly liked the game Action Man, family butcher. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
See, you can use the carton... | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:18:36 | 0:18:37 | |
Another thing I like to do, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
is half a walnut, representing roast chicken. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
Look at that. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
They are practical. They are there because, otherwise, | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
they'd have to give you... What else are they going to do? | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
They're there so that you can make a cup of tea in your hotel room | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
without having to go out and milk a cow. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
Otherwise, they'd have to give you a full carton of milk, | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
and put it in the fridge. They are serving a purpose. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
Or just have your coffee black? | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
They could just... You can get, like, mini pints, can't you? | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Hold it, how can you have a mini pint? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
Well, I don't know, like, what the specific measurement it is, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
-but it's, like, half a pint. -Smaller than your average pint? | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Yeah, it's like half a pint. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
That is condensed milk, I think you'll find. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Well, I tell you something, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
I play quite a bit of football, and I find one brilliant thing is, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
if you've run out of studs... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:48 | |
..they do a great... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
MUSIC: Match Of The Day Theme | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
I love that you clapped along. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
Desperate for community singing. They don't want comedy. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
They want another One Bites The Dust with big foam hands. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
So what's upsetting Charlie Brooker? | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
-Yeah. -And this is, this is really the whole... | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
..experience. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:27 | |
The fact that it's necessary is annoying, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
but there's not many experiences in life in which you have to sit in | 0:20:30 | 0:20:35 | |
a confined space with a stranger, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
and you have to sit there and make small talk with them | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
whilst staring at yourself in a mirror... | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
and having your own awkwardness amplified as you look at yourself. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
While, sometimes, drinking a cup of coffee that's getting more and more | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
full of hair. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
The whole experience is just... | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
..I find an absolute torment. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
And I would be far happier if there was a night barbering service, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:09 | |
that you could book someone who would come round to your house, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
in the dead of night, and cut your hair while you were asleep, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
or while sedated, if they did haircuts on the NHS. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
What about that moment when they hold the mirror | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
at the back of your head? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
So you can watch yourself nodding obsequiously from the back. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
You can see what you look like as a liar, from behind. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
Good to know. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:45 | |
I can't imagine what damage they would do that would make me | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
say anything other than, "It's lovely, thanks very much." | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
I always thought if I was a barber I'd get one of these. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
And the man who didn't have a bald patch, suddenly... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:05 | |
HE GASPS | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
I wouldn't be able to resist. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Better still, if you had a man who had a bald patch, and you had that. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Really build his hopes up. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:15 | |
Then go, "No!" | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
What is the purpose of the mirror? | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Why do you have to have... Why can't I have a TV, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
or something like that instead? | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
Why can't I have anything? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:24 | |
A photograph of a terrible atrocity happening? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
That would be preferable to watching myself. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
It should have an option, in this day and age, | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
like when you're on a plane, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
and the in-flight entertainment system nowadays, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
you can be watching a film, then you can just check that you're en route. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
You can see a little map. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
There should be an option, there should just be a button | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
you can press that brings up the feed of your haircut | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
in front of you, just for the few moments that's necessary. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:50 | |
Then you could go back to watching whatever war movie is preferable. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
I agree with you there. I don't know if this is just a girl thing, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
but I feel like you almost pay to be insulted. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
They sit down, and they just tell you everything that's wrong | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
with your hair, like, you've got split ends, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
and your roots need doing. Your hair's dry, and you need | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
a conditioning treatment on it. And I'm like... | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
-And they want to cut about that much off. -Yeah. -"No, what are you doing?! | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
-"This took me ages to grow!" -I just want the, like, split ends cut off, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
and then you end up coming out with, like, a bowl cut. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
I agree with you, it's awful. I hate going. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:24 | |
-I agree. -I swear this is true. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
I went to a barbers in Camden Town, and I said to the bloke, he said, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:32 | |
"What do you want?" And I said, "I don't... | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
"I quite like yours. Something like yours." | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
And he said, "Well, I have number two all over." | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
Right? I said, "You should try wet wipes." | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
That bit I made up. No, don't clap that. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
I made that bit up. He said, "I have number two all over." | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
And I said, "Well, I'll have that then." And so he got the... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
And he cut my hair, and I could see my scalp, because it was so short. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
And I said, "This is much shorter than yours." | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
He said, "Oh, well, mine's grown out quite a bit." | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
I swear! | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I swear that's true. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
Oh, my God. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Do you always find that, you know, when they give, like, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
head massages as well, I always find that awkward because I'm, like, | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
do I close my eyes? | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Do I keep them open and look at them? | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
I went somewhere and they started giving me a head massage, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
and I thought, "Which way is this going? | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
"Have I walked into the wrong bloody place?" | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
This is a bit weird. I've got my head in the sink. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
I don't let them wash it, ever. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
-Do you not? -You know that sink with the, sort of, that you lean back on? | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
-Yeah. -It feels a bit like sleeping in a urinal. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
Just take my word for that. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
Then you lean back... And I was getting it done once, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
and it occurred to me... | 0:24:50 | 0:24:51 | |
I just had this image of this woman karate chopping me | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
-across the Adam's apple. -Yeah! | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
And once that's crossed your mind, you cannot enjoy it. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
You're very vulnerable in those sinks. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-I've thought that. It's like Sweeney Todd or something. -Oh. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
It's the perfect... Oh, toughen up! | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
And so, to Pearl. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:12 | |
Hear me out here, yeah? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
OK, so the thing about swimming goggles that really gets me is | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
that you put them on, and you're like, great, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
they're like suctioned onto your eyeballs. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
You're like, "Cool, cool. This feels pretty tight, you know." | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
If you're me, you pull them around your massive amounts of hair, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
that the rubber is not going well with. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
And you get in the pool, and you're like, "This is going to be great." | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
You're in there, you're swimming around, like, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
"Wow, I can see everything. Oh, my God, I can see that woman's leg, | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
"it's so exciting." And then, that little bubble of water | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
just comes in, comes into your eye like that, and you're just blind. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
Because the chlorine is actually in your eye and it was open, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
when it shouldn't have been open underwater anyway. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
No. I don't... | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
I really have a strong aversion to them. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
They lull you into a false sense of security, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
and then they just get you. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:03 | |
I don't... I don't get much leakage, though, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
-with the goggles. -Maybe it's just me. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
I've got quite a large eyebrow to sort of, cheekbone ratio. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
So maybe it's that. Maybe I'm too excited in the water. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
I'm like, "Ah!" Eyes are open really wide or something. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
Maybe you need a welding visor? | 0:26:21 | 0:26:22 | |
Are you tightening them up properly? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:26 | |
Because they're very difficult to work. It's very difficult | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
to work out how to tighten up a pair of swimming goggles. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
If they're a bit loose, and then you tighten them, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
-you always over judge it. -Yeah. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
You put them back on and go like that, "That's much better." | 0:26:35 | 0:26:38 | |
It feels like you've stuck your eyes into the ends of two Hoovers. | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
Yeah. That's the thing, you come out, you've been swimming, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
and you're like, "Great, yeah!" You're about to go on a date, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
and literally, you look like your eyes have been sucked out | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
of their sockets, but then just sort of popped back on. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
It's like, that's not attractive. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Are you swimming your way to these dates? | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
I have to travel far to get them, trust me. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Here's some examples of goggles I actually like. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
What about these? | 0:27:06 | 0:27:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
I would look... These... You might like these, Pearl, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
because I think these retain a certain glamour in the water. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
-Oh, they're nice. -Ooh! | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
That's a bit Dame Edna, isn't it? | 0:27:28 | 0:27:30 | |
I'm actually trying to flutter them, how can I possibly do that? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
OK, we come to the end of this. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
I... | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
I can't put swimming goggles in, Pearl, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
because I can't really swim without them. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
I wouldn't want to deprive you of that. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
I think I'm not going to put haircuts in, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:48 | |
because I have had some very pleasurable... | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
I once had a haircut... I was on tour and I went for a haircut, | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
the bloke said, "How do you want it?" | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
And there was a poster of me across the road, and I said, "Like that." | 0:27:56 | 0:28:01 | |
Just for those moments. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:02 | |
-So... -That's brilliant. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
I am going to put cartons of UHT milk into Room 101. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:11 | |
And that brings us to the end of the Show. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Well done, Pearl, you were this week's winner | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
-and our most persuasive guest. -Yes! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
I should do a dab now. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
Thank you very much to Charlie Brooker, Scarlett Moffatt, | 0:28:37 | 0:28:41 | |
and Pearl Mackie. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
And thank you, good night. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 |