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Fatherhood - what all men are destined for. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
Protector, provider, role-model. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
But not in comedy. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
Up your pipe! | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Right...up you! | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
Fathers may be the head of the family, | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
a potent symbol of authority, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
but they've always been the butt of some of our biggest laughs in British sitcom. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
With very few exceptions, | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
the father character in all sitcoms tends to be the kind of hapless adult. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:35 | |
-Have a good day at the office. -I won't. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
Over the last five decades, some of our most iconic comedy dads | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
have been left bewildered by a changing world. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
It's a boy! I've got a boy! | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
It's a girl, Mr Spencer! | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
He's gone back to childhood, here. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
He's a child in a world of adults. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
They have struggled with the work-life balance. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
Ahhh! | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
He doesn't just hate his job or his mother-in-law, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
he ends up hating the whole of humanity, pretty much. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:09 | |
Grapefruit, my arse. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
They may be of low status in the modern home | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
but still they struggle to stay in charge. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Where does he get his authority from? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
He gets it from holding the remote! | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
These dads have coped with every curve ball the writers threw at them. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
There must be something wrong with me. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
-I'm living in a world I don't understand. -And in the process, | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
changed the course of British comedy. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
-They remain our most enduring men about the house. -Wonderful(!) | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
'A country has never been so prosperous. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
'As the Prime Minister has said, the standard of living has gone up, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
'more people have motorcars, television and a host of other things, | 0:01:54 | 0:02:00 | |
'which only a few years ago, were the luxuries of the few.' | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
The '60s consumer boom | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
gave Britain more mod cons than ever before. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
But beyond the financial tonic, there were also big cultural changes. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
A new generation of writers were giving an authentic and unfettered voice to the working class. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:20 | |
Two very different sitcoms featured family conflict | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
with the father at the very heart of the chaos. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
In 1962, after penning the sublime Hancock's Half Hour, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
writers Ray Galton and Alan Simpson | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
turned their attention to rag and bone. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:41 | |
STEPTOE AND SON THEME TUNE | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
This sitcom rarely touched on the business of junk | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
but concentrated solely on family wreckage | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
and the extremes of love and hate between a father and son. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
Originally, when the writers were putting the programme together, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
they wanted to make a programme about rag-and-bone men | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
and it was only once they hit on the idea of father and son, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
that you set up that tension | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
whereby you have Harold who wants to leave, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
who has his class aspirations, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
who doesn't like the life that his father has lived, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
and actually doesn't seem to like his father as a person. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
Oh, you dirty old man! | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
What are you doing? | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
I'm having me bath and I'm having me dinner. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
Steptoe and Son bickered incessantly | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
but it was the inescapable family bond | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
that glued these two characters together. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
He needed Harold's guilt to keep him there - | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
without the guilt, he would just go. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
He would rather go and live in a cardboard box than stay there. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
It probably wouldn't have worked even as a father figure, | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
it had to be that close bond to work | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
and to get the comedy and get all the pathos from it. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
You are beginning to annoy me, Father. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
You're casting aspersions on my ability. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
-I'm not, Harold, really. -Oh, yes you are. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
I have sympathy for Harold and I think the programme does as well. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
You can understand why he would want to leave that. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
We also have sympathy towards him because we can understand his dignity in not leaving | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
because of the emotional relationship he's got towards his dad. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
Yeah, up your pipe! | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
It's perfect for the sitcom because it means you can have | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
really extreme ideas of conflict that these characters can say, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
really horrifically but funny things to each other | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
which colleagues or friends would never put up with. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
It's a laugh, you're always the same, taking things up, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
buying all the gear, wasting your money and then you're a scrub out. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
If you don't shut up, I shall ram this shuttlecock straight up your Khyber and set fire to the feathers! | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
The success of the show not only centred on Albert's failure to escape from his father | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
but also his fruitless attempts to improve his lot. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
Steptoe And Son is a classic illustration of the British obsession with class. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:23 | |
These two characters, the dad and the son, | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
and the son is desperate to move out of his class, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
as so many people were at the time. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
-Oh, Mother, isn't it absolutely super? -Delightful. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
The younger Steptoe wants to get away from this kind of rag-and-bone world, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
he wants to get away from the working-class environment that, | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
as he sees it, is suffocating him and dragging him down. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Pater, show Mrs Kennington-Stroud a chair. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
Over there. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
That's a chair. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Of course, the comedy lies in the fact that his father keeps | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
dragging him back in and he never manages to escape this environment. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
It's such a common theme of sitcoms. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
Look, missus, if there's any fleas in here, you brought them in in that thing. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
How dare you! Ahh! | 0:06:10 | 0:06:13 | |
Sitcoms delight in puncturing people's pretensions | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
and they delight in showing how they are brought back down to earth, how you can't escape your background. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:21 | |
SHE CONTINUES SCREAMING | 0:06:21 | 0:06:22 | |
Mrs Stroud, come back! | 0:06:22 | 0:06:24 | |
Bunty, please. Hang on a minute. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
How dare you! | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
I must have been mad! | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
But, Bunty, I wasn't walloping you! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Like all sitcoms, the conflict never ended. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Steptoe And Son remained locked in a timeless struggle between generations. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
There were also clashes on the political stage throughout the '60s | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
as our old patricians recognised that change was going to come. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
The wind of change is blowing through this country. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
Whether we like it or not, growth, national consciousness is a political fact. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:06 | |
It was this war of ideas between generations | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
that was the focus of the 1960s' other iconic sitcom. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
Till Death Us Do Part began life as a one-off play | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
but there were immediate doubts from its star as to the show's long-term prospects. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
My first impression was, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
you couldn't make a series out of this - a family arguing. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
I couldn't see how it could be a success | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
because we had had the pattern of nice comedy shows, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
everything was nice, particularly the American ones - it was all chocolate box. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
I remember saying at the time, you can't make a series out of this - just arguments. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:00 | |
But I was wrong. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
HE SNORES | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
What are you bloody doing, you bloody fool? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
Go to sleep! | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
I don't want to go to sleep. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
In terms of fatherhood, the interesting thing about Alf is, he's so powerless. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
He's constantly in this huge rage | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
because he lacks all authority over his own household. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
His wife doesn't listen to him and she puts him down whenever she can. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
You wait till you're bloody ill! > | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
I can't afford to be ill and lay in bed. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
If I'm ill, you still expect your dinners, your clean washing. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
Drunken pig! | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
He is mortified by the presence of his son-in-law, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:56 | |
the Tony Booth character, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
who despises him and mocks him at every turn. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
His own daughter always sides with Tony Booth, she never sides with Alf. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
Did you say "prince" or "princess"? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
It looks more like a bird than a fella. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
All right, laugh, very funny. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
Don't be so bloody facetious, the pair of you. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Adding to this constant bickering as well as the comedy | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
was a very claustrophobic aspect of family life in the '60s. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
At that time, a lot of young people, because of the economic situation, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
could not afford a home of their own, so they stayed with their in-laws | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
and that led to the difficulty that happened - | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
the clash between the younger generation and the older generation and the clash of ideas and ideals. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
That was an ideal setting for it. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
From the outset, Alf Garnett was offensive and confrontational | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
because the character was an attempt to satirise the entrenched racism in British culture. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
What's the coon doing here? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
Eh? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:57 | |
He's giving blood, the same as us. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
Alf Garnett was very typical of a lot of men at that time. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
Although funny, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
he spoke about things that were taboo. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
We need to speak about things that are taboo. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Are they going to bung his blood into anybody? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Yeah, why not? | 0:10:18 | 0:10:19 | |
WHY NOT?! | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
How do you do? | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
The battle that's going on with Alf Garnett | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
is this idea that the next generation have a completely different set of political views, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
a completely different understanding of the world | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
and Alf Garnett is so angry, so full of rage, so confused about the world | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
because everything that's coming after him | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
is disagreeing with what he's done, it's undermining the way in which he thinks about the world. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:47 | |
We will rise again, don't you worry about that. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
We will rise like lions and get our empire back. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
The bloody great British Empire that your bloody Labour rubbish gave away to... | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
To the people it belonged to. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
To a load of bloody coons and wogs! | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Alf's generation, I felt very sorry for them because they were a lost generation. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:10 | |
They were taught that we were a superior people | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
and that gave them great expectations when there was nothing to give to them. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
People were laughing at Alf Garnett, not with Alf Garnett. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
God, here we go, Paki-bashing again. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
Don't start him off. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
-Me? -You know you don't like them. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
-I don't like them? -I -don't like them? -Well, you don't. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
They don't bloody like each other! | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Bringing life to a character is the actor's trade | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
but playing Alf Garnett called for courage as well as craft. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
The beautiful thing about Warren's performance is that he pulled no punches. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
I admire him for that. He played it straight down the middle. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
Well, I think if you're playing a character it's difficult to hate him. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
I mean, if I had to play Adolf Hitler | 0:11:59 | 0:12:01 | |
I would have to play him as though I believed what he was saying, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
and I'm Jewish, so it would be very difficult, but I would have had to do it. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
And so the same was true, I had to believe what I was saying as Alf. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
Both Till Death Us Do Part and Steptoe And Son struck a chord with the public | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
in ridiculing two dysfunctional dads. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
It may often be a decade noted for cultural change and progress, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
but its two most successful sitcoms saw the dark side of family. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
But of course the highpoints of comedy will be dark, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
because comedy by its very nature, is dark. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
It's always frustrated ambitions, it's failure, it's disaster, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
it's the sort of Sword of Damocles, of catastrophe, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
that's about to descend on the protagonist's head. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
That's ALWAYS what we find funny. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Aside from loon pants and disco, the 1970s were marked by Britain's spiral into economic chaos. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:07 | |
It was also a unique period in British sitcom, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
with hugely successful shows dominating every channel. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
Within these shows was writing of real originality and insight, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
that milked fatherhood for very different belly laughs. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
But our first father from the '70s defies classification. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em | 0:13:35 | 0:13:36 | |
featured one family guy's endless struggle with life's simplest tasks. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:41 | |
In a sense, you know, you could argue he's an incompetent father, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
you know, this is an incompetent husband, incompetent father, incompetent man, | 0:13:55 | 0:14:00 | |
and you could root it in the '70s when men are kind of being challenged. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
I think it makes more sense actually to see it as going back to | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
this kind of Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin style. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
I think it's more about this kind of venerable comic tradition | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
than it is about what's going on in 1974 or whatever. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
It's almost as if he's lost the plot. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
He's gone back to childhood here, he's a child in a world of adults. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:34 | |
Could you come and sit down a minute, Frank. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
And he's married! That is what I couldn't understand. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
There's going to be... | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
a little addition to our family. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
When writer Raymond Allen employed a well-worn plot device in the second series, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:54 | |
Frank Spencer could now labour with a whole new set of challenges. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
How do you mean? | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
We're going to hear the patter of tiny little feet. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
Oh, no, no, no, no, Betty. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
I'm not having another cat in this house. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
When you find out in Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em that his wife's pregnant, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
you kind of worry for the child. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
In reality, Social Services would be there in about five minutes of the birth to take the baby away. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:27 | |
That's right. Push down. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:28 | |
Push down. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
Push down, Betty. Push down! | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
Extraordinary. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
Because you think, "How did that happen?" | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
There was absolutely no intimacy between them. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
He was consistently doing weird things, she was totally the boss | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
and yet he did become a father and a lovable father. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
It's a boy! I've got a boy. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
It's a girl, Mr Spencer! | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
Well, what's that then? | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
That is the umbilical cord. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Ooh, I say! It was going on and on. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
What's going on in Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em is you have a character who's completely incompetent | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
in terms of being a father, completely incompetent in terms of being a member of the work force, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:16 | |
but who completely understands as a father and as a husband, there are roles he is required to play, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:23 | |
and pretty much every episode is him trying to play those roles. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
He wants to be a good dad. He wants to provide for his wife and for his child. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
I'm a success. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
I suppose the viewer... | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
had a certain level of generosity towards him, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and a real wish that he would get it right. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
I suppose that is what's around now with parents | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
who are really struggling with their children. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
But Frank Spencer probably makes people like me get grey hairs! | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
Beyond Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em, | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
another '70s sitcom, was very much of its time. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
The Fall And Rise Of Reginald Perrin featured a suburban dad | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
trying to maintain some presence in the family home, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
whilst coping with the relentless pressures at work. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
The Fall And Rise Of Reginald Perrin is an absolutely key programme | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
for understanding what happened to Britain in the '70s and has continued to happen afterwards. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:34 | |
People start complaining in the mid-'70s that they don't have as much time for family life, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
for leisure, they don't have as much time to spend with their wives and children. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Thank you, no, that'll do me for the moment. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:48 | |
They work longer hours, they're in danger of getting the sack. They don't have a job for life. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
Their job might disappear because it might be outsourced, it might be replaced by a computer. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
So, of course, there is an impact on family life. | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
Suddenly the corporate world meant that men had to leave at 7 o'clock, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
6 o'clock in the morning, came back at 8 o'clock. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
The kids were in bed or gone, so he was becoming the absent father. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
-Back at the usual time? -Of course. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Oh, wait. There's a piece of white cotton on your coat. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
A narrow escape. London businessman saved from white cotton terror. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
-Have a good day at the office. -I won't. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
Again, it's notable, loads of episodes of Reggie Perrin begin with him leaving home | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
and end with him coming home, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
and so the programme is very clearly saying "OK, the home matters, but what's taking up most of his time | 0:18:33 | 0:18:39 | |
"is going to work." | 0:18:39 | 0:18:40 | |
Well, actually what's taking up most of his time is getting to work and getting home. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:45 | |
And you look back at it and you do kind of think, you can see that this man is falling apart at the seams, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:55 | |
but it doesn't blame the domestic for that, it blames work for that. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-Are you losing your drive? -No, CJ, I'm not losing my drive. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
Good. We're not one of those firms that thinks a chap is no good after he's 46. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Goodbye, Reggie. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
He doesn't just hate his job or his mother-in-law, he ends up hating the whole of humanity pretty much. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:16 | |
Out of all humanity, Reggie Perrin still managed to retain his special hatred, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
like so many fathers before him, for his son-in-law. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-Why am I a bearded prick? -You really want to know? -Yes. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
Cos you have a bright red open-plan Finnish playpen, | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
you put supposedly witty adverts in the Cookham and Thames Ditton Chronicle, | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
you brew your own parsnip and nettle wine, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
you smoke revolting briar pipes, built a gothic stone folly in your garden, | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
and you called your children Adam and Jocasta | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
and made them eat garlic bread the moment they were off the breast. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
I see. Thank you. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
It is a very funny show, but it is an incredibly dark one. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
It's a man who is basically going through a nervous breakdown. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
It's David Nobb's genius that he makes all of that very funny | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
and addictive and compelling viewing, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
and we never really succumb to the darkness, as in all great sitcoms, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:10 | |
because that's kept at bay by the jokes. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Argh! | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
So tonight in Line-Up Review we'll be talking about television comedy. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
TV sitcom was traditionally the domain of white males, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
who, aided with some free booze, occasionally did their best | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
to unravel the mysteries of comedy for the viewers, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
and the result was chaos. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
It doesn't work... | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
Look, 20 years ago... | 0:20:36 | 0:20:39 | |
Yes, Lucille Ball, Dick van Dyke. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
-20 years ago comedy writers wrote jokes. -It didn't start with you, comedy, or me. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
If Dickens had been writing for TV, he'd be writing Coronation Street. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
By the way, look, we're having a spot of bother hearing what exactly | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
is being said, because it's a splendidly lively discussion, | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
marvellously lively but just a bit too loud so nobody can hear... | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Male dominance in comedy would continue, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
but outside of television, women were fighting for emancipation and equality. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Like any other industry, television would slowly begin to concede to this challenge to the status quo. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
A sitcom written by a woman was a rare commodity, but there were exceptions. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
Carla Lane had already penned a hit sitcom, The Liver Birds, by the time she created Butterflies. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:37 | |
Apparently a gentle sitcom about suburban family life, this show was about so much more. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
Again, a family domestic unit, but a mother, Ria, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
who is thinking about having an affair, and what is very, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
at the time, was controversial about the programme, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
was that the programme is sympathetic towards her thinking about having an affair. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
You know it all, don't you? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
'I'm in some sort of trouble here. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
'I can feel it. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
'It's not the ordinary kind. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
'The kind one cures with a box of chocolates and a theatre ticket. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
'It's something tucked away in her mind. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
'Brooding and fermenting. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
'Oh, God. I can see hope running towards the horizon with its arse on fire.' | 0:22:31 | 0:22:36 | |
In Butterflies, the whole angle was towards Wendy Craig, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
and she was the one that was the butt of a lot of material, the jokes about the food, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
the father and two sons would gang up on her, albeit in a pretty light-hearted way, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:51 | |
but that was one of those very few sitcoms where the mother took the brunt of the stick, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
rather than the dad. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
-Custard, Adam? -Thanks. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
What I think is really interesting about Butterflies is the portrayal of Ben, the father. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
Very good. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
It could have been very easy for the programme to portray him as a husband who is very uncaring | 0:23:12 | 0:23:18 | |
or is brutal in some kind of way, and actually you have a portrayal that is very sympathetic. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
In fact, I would go so far as to say this is absolutely... | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
nice. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
It's quite a traditional dad, going out - the dentist - | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
coming back, you know, sitting down, awful meal in front of him, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:37 | |
but I felt there was something quite generous in the way he would be still quite OK | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
about the meal in front of him, tried to keep the boys under control. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:46 | |
We do not communicate. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
There's a great, awesome chasm between us. I work, he doesn't. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
-I pay tax, he doesn't. I believe in respectability and self-sufficiency, he doesn't. -I have fun, he doesn't. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:58 | |
When your children hit their teenage years, you know, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
there's a bit of jealousy that creeps in there, so the generosity that would flow | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
between fathers and their children, particularly fathers and their sons, perhaps isn't there. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:11 | |
-You're not jealous of your sons, are you? -Of course I'm jealous! | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
Not the green-eyed, evil jealous, just the gentle, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
"wish I'd been born later, why did I miss it all?" jealous. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
It was an odd thing because you kind of felt you should have much more sympathy for him as the dad, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
but again, there was a touch of the doltish about him | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
not recognising there was something going on in his wife's life - | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
that she wanted something more, and you know, he couldn't fulfil it and he wasn't noticing it. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:40 | |
I want to pretend that we're meeting...in secret. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:48 | |
All right. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
You go up to bed, and I'll go out into the garden and swarm up the drain pipe. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
In the latter series, there's sequences where Ben starts to realise that Ria might be thinking about | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
leaving him and having an affair, and those scenes are portrayed very sympathetically towards him. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
'It might be nothing. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
'It might be a stage she's going through. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
'Children are always going through stages. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
'It might be something.' | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
He's very upset. He's very scared. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
He's worried about that. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
And you can see that they kind of love each other, | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
but at the same time, marriage isn't working for them, in some way. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
And so, yeah, we get to see him as a victim of the institution of marriage as much as you see her. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
Ben! | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
Where are you? | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
I'm on my way home. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
Good morning, Mrs Thatcher! | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
We all know what shaped the '80s. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
Our first woman prime minister may have been a victory for equality, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
but on gaining the keys to Number 10, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
she gave thanks to one person. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:10 | |
Well, of course, I just owe almost everything to my own father, I really do. He brought me up | 0:26:10 | 0:26:16 | |
to believe all the things that I do believe, and they're just the values on which I fought the election. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
Margaret Thatcher's landslide victory signalled radical social change | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
that some welcomed, but others took to the streets, resulting in huge civil unrest across Britain. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:34 | |
# I ran so far away... # | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
It was this social change that would come to define so much of modern Britain. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:42 | |
# I ran so far away... # | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
Three '80s sitcoms addressed the issue of fatherhood | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
in their own unique and timely way and could be seen as a response to this new political age. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
# Stick a pony in me pocket... # | 0:26:57 | 0:26:59 | |
In what was to become Britain's most successful sitcom, | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
fatherhood was very much to the fore in this irresistible comedy | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
about two struggling brothers in south London. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
# I'm your man... # | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
I would be very proud to have written | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Only Fools and Horses, which is about as domestic and family-oriented | 0:27:14 | 0:27:20 | |
as you can get, but it's brilliant. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
# Why do only fools and horses work...? # | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Del Boy's a really interesting character, because on the one hand | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
he is your classic sitcom figure of the working-class protagonist with delusions of grandeur. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:37 | |
I always thought if we could make a success of it, that eventually we would go legit. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:43 | |
You know, we would register the name "Trotters Independent Traders" as a proper, McCoy company. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:50 | |
At the same time, Del is a pure Thatcherite. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
He's a London entrepreneur, | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
a small businessman who doesn't mind cutting a few corners... | 0:27:56 | 0:28:02 | |
My dream starts the way every success starts, with a great big rip-off. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
He lives in a council flat, he lives in effectively a broken home, broken family, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:12 | |
he's having to bring up Rodney. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
Despite Rodney being 57, Del is having to bring him up. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:19 | |
Rodney, I'm going to whip down the shops and get another packet of Smash and some brew. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
In the absence of their dad and their mother, sadly departed, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
Del Boy became a father to Rodney, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
guiding his younger, more naive brother | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
through the harsh lessons in life. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
So, you want to get a nice tan for the girl then, do you? | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
I'll give you a nice tan, all right! | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
But he never lost sight of the joys of sibling rivalry. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:46 | |
Come on, Rodney, Oi, come on, bring your cheese. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
I really think Rodney should go to hospital with his face. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
Yeah, I know, I've been telling him that for years. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
To see a sibling... | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
being as cruel as he was to Rodney, it doesn't have the same take as a dad, who perhaps has | 0:29:03 | 0:29:10 | |
that sort of sarcasm and the humour that comes into that relationship. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
It's a slightly... | 0:29:15 | 0:29:16 | |
I find it quite uneasy to take in terms of them being siblings, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
but I think he was trying to replicate being the dad. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
ROMANTIC MUSIC PLAYS | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
Ooh, in't 'alf dark in here, innit? | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
Oh, put him down, Janice, put him down. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
You don't know where he's been. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
Well now, what we got going on here? I'll have a drop of that. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
Thanks. 'Ere, look, we don't want all this rubbish on, do we, eh? | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
That's better. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
Siblings who have to take on adult relationships have a very hard time, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
because, really, they don't have the authority to do this. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
The younger sibling will often object and, really, will be very | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
aware of the fact that "We're siblings, you're not my dad"! | 0:29:53 | 0:29:56 | |
-You're in, are you, Del? -Hm? | 0:29:56 | 0:29:58 | |
Yes, yes, I'm in, Rodders. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
Really, dads are there, they have the authority, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
they have the gravitas, and children expect them to be the way they are. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
We don't expect it from our siblings! | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
-Yeah, by the way, 'scuse me a minute, Janice. -Sorry, Janice. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Yeah. Your bondage ropes, they're in the garage, all right? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
And Grandad has washed your whip, and he's put it in the airing cupboard. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
I don't think it's shrunk. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
I'll leave you two lovebirds alone, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
-and I shall just say, "Buenos Aires". -Del... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Only Fools and Horses was a huge hit. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
By the seventh series, the show deployed some trusted plot devices. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:36 | |
Marriage was the first development, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
and from John Sullivan's point of view, I'd imagine you think, | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
"Let's put him in that situation" | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
and then, ultimately, fatherhood and how he reacts with that. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
I don't think Only Fools is alone in that. If we look back through sitcoms, | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
we'll see fatherhood as a bit of a kind of plot development, a device to give | 0:30:50 | 0:30:55 | |
a sitcom legs, to give it a new life and take it in a different direction. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
Oh, no! | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
There's another one. | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
Push hard, there's a good girl. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
-Del, can I hold your hand? -Of course you can, sweetheart, go on. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
SHE SCREAMS | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
Steady on, Raquel. Steady on. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
YELLING AND SCREAMING CONTINUES | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
DEL SCREAMS | 0:31:22 | 0:31:24 | |
With the phenomenal success of this mainstream hit, | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
it's easy to overlook how the character of Del Boy | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
embraced fatherhood in a way that previous sitcom dads may have balked at. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:42 | |
Giving birth ain't all it's cracked up to be, is it? | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
I think the really significant bit in Only Fools and Horses is when Damian is born. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
It's a baby, Racquel. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
You have at the end of the episode Del Boy holding Damian | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
and looking out of the hospital window up at the stars, and having a very emotional conversation | 0:31:54 | 0:31:59 | |
and the programme ends on that - it doesn't have a punchline, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
it doesn't end with a joke, it ends with a very emotional statement about being a parent and being a father. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:10 | |
And you'll have all the things | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
your daddy couldn't afford. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:13 | |
Because I've been a bit of a dreamer, you know. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
Yeah, I have. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:20 | |
I wanted to do things and be someone, | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
but I never had what it took. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
But you, you're different. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
You're going to live my dreams for me, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
and you're going to do all the things | 0:32:32 | 0:32:34 | |
that I want you to do | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
and you are going to come back | 0:32:36 | 0:32:37 | |
and tell me about them. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
I think it might say something about the ways in which the representation | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
of men had changed on television, that suddenly you had male characters who were allowed to be emotional, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:49 | |
that it wasn't about being stiff upper-lip, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
it wasn't about just demonstrating your authority, | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
it was also about characters who could express the fact that things | 0:32:55 | 0:32:59 | |
bothered them, that things upset them, and that was not seen as a lack of masculinity at all. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:05 | |
Further north in Liverpool, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
Bread was the follow-up hit from Carla Lane after Butterflies. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:15 | |
The show celebrated the ups and downs | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
of the extended Boswell family. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
Fighting every system in the absence of their feckless, philandering father. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:25 | |
-We all work in our different ways, we do what we can for the family. -How does he work? | 0:33:25 | 0:33:31 | |
You can certainly see Bread as a political statement, | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
you can see it as the Liverpudlian family embattled from without. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
There's no law against having style, sweetheart. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
We may be lying in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:47 | |
It actually plays to the kind of Liverpool mythology | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
and probably is partly responsible for creating | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
that kind of sense of Liverpool as a city apart, has its own ever so salty and witty culture | 0:33:53 | 0:33:59 | |
that the rest of us can never possibly aspire to and so on and so forth. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
-You'll have to talk to him, Joey, he's overdoing it. -What do you mean, I'm overdoing it? | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
I mean that whatever you're doing over there | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
doesn't leave you with enough strength to do anything over here! | 0:34:10 | 0:34:13 | |
You have a female matriarch | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
demonstrating her power, running that family, staying in charge of it, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
so even though she's got that anger towards her absent husband | 0:34:22 | 0:34:26 | |
she's worked out a way in which to survive. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
So she's a very strong woman in that way. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
Oh, by the way, I inquired about an allowance for Grandad. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
What for? He's getting three allowances already. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Incontinence. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
-But... -But he's not incontinent. -That's what I was going to say. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
But he might be, one day. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
I mean, there's a way in which Joey, the oldest son, ends up playing that | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
father figure, but it's a slightly different representation, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
because there isn't the conflict between the father figure and the mother figure | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
that we would expect in other programmes, at least partly | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
because they're not husband and wife, they're mother and son. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
The number of jobless goes up to 3,200,000, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
the largest July figure ever. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
Unemployment in the '80s was a lasting legacy and a direct consequence of government policy. | 0:35:21 | 0:35:28 | |
The social cost was millions dependent on state benefit | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
and the creation of a new class in British society, the underclass. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
Step forward the socially excluded clown prince of this underclass, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:45 | |
Rab C Nesbitt. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
Rab C Nesbitt brought guttural Glaswegian patter to British sitcom for the first time. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:01 | |
But writer Ian Pattison was inspired by two famous sitcom dads from the past. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:07 | |
That's me back, Mary, darling! | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
I can remember in 1962 seeing... | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
Albert Steptoe, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:15 | |
and that was a big change from any TV dad that I'd ever seen portrayed. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
Most of them, to people like me from a working-class background, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
aliens, all these nice dads who would come home and mix a cocktail and ask the kids how their day had gone. | 0:36:24 | 0:36:32 | |
No, didn't really work that way where people like me came from. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
So when Albert came along and then Alf Garnett, you thought, OK, these are not pretty people, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:40 | |
but they're recognisable, and Rab was a continuation of that kind of portrayal. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:48 | |
I am glad I have found you out, wi' your two-timing. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:53 | |
Yeah. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
I'm glad I've found you, because I may be scum, | 0:36:55 | 0:36:58 | |
but us scum, us scum have a code, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
and that code goes something like this - | 0:37:01 | 0:37:05 | |
get it right...up ye! | 0:37:05 | 0:37:09 | |
Rab is again a grotesque character that you shouldn't feel any real great sympathy for, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:16 | |
but you do, you kind of feel a bit of sympathy for the fact that he is kind of struggling on | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
and all this kind of mad, homespun philosophy. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
At the core of it, you kind of feel there is a decent man, although he's not particularly good at showing it. | 0:37:23 | 0:37:29 | |
Dear God, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
it's a family crisis, here. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
A son of mine calmly walks in here and announces he's gifted. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
-What the hell right have you got to be gifted? -Sorry, Da. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
If you wanted to be something different, could you no' have been something less expensive, | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
like gay or something? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
Rab's attitude to children was that they never cramped his style in anyway. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
They were just there, and they didn't impinge on his lifestyle - if he wanted to go out, he would go out. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:57 | |
And I...don't really think he was a formative influence on them. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:04 | |
-What was that for? -Well, I've got to hit something, haven't I? | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
Aye. And you're bloody well smart noo wi' me, you big swine. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
But just wait till you get your heart disease. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
Then I'm going to bloody well kill ye! | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
Y'see that? | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
That's mah boy! That's mah boy! | 0:38:25 | 0:38:26 | |
Unemployed, unwashed and unwanted, Rab was a free spirit. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:37 | |
But this waster of a father was gifted with self-awareness. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
Sometimes he confirmed your impressions, and other times | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
he confounded them, and the way that he would confound them was by being self-aware, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
by knowing more about his situation than you thought you knew about it, looking in. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:54 | |
And so that was a very important element. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
He wouldn't be the character, he wouldn't have lasted, if he had just been a two-dimensional fellow | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
who had no inner life. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
Some amount o' wanky old pish. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:10 | |
See, your average punter, he doesnae have a Scooby-Doo whether it's any good or not. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:18 | |
They're all too feart to say anything detrimental, for fear of making an arse of themselves. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
Whereas I look like an arse anyway, y'know? | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
So I've got a kind of licence to be fearless. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:28 | |
I think Rab and other sitcoms ask some sort of pretty serious questions | 0:39:28 | 0:39:32 | |
about the state of the nation, the state of fatherhood, the state of a lot of things. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:36 | |
There's nothing wrong with that. it's important that sometimes they can do more | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
than just kind of wash over you and just be kind of wallpaper. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
On the other side of the world, a domestic comedy was taking America by storm. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:49 | |
The Simpsons would soon become a global phenomenon and prove that great comedy recognises no borders. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:56 | |
Featuring the world's most dysfunctional family, | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
the son was the initial focus, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
but audiences would make up their own mind about who the real star of the show was. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:07 | |
When it started out, because it was a cartoon | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
people thought it's for kids, and people thought because it's for kids | 0:40:09 | 0:40:13 | |
the strongest character in it will be the kid, it will be Bart Simpson. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
But I think quite quickly, inevitably the attention was drawn more towards Homer Simpson | 0:40:16 | 0:40:22 | |
as the kind of everyman figure that certainly every father, every adult man, related to. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
One thing about The Simpsons is, maybe with the exception of Roseanne, | 0:40:28 | 0:40:33 | |
it was the only show to show what family life really was like, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
you know, to show those mixed feelings that parents have. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
You little... | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
-Wait a minute, does this mean you like my present? -Uh-huh. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:45 | |
-Ohhh! Just promise me you won't pay any more practical jokes. -I promise. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:51 | |
I think all parents suffer from that having a thought in their head about how they could have done something | 0:40:51 | 0:40:56 | |
that wouldn't be totally PC, | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
and Homer Simpson really sums that up - | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
you know, he sort of grabs his children and shakes them, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
and it isn't necessarily how we'd want parents to be. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
But I doubt that most parents haven't thought for a second, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:12 | |
"I could have done that". | 0:41:12 | 0:41:13 | |
Dealing?! How could you? | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
Haven't you learned anything from that guy who gives those sermons | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
at church, Captain Whatshisname? | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
We live in a society of laws. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
Why do you think I took in all those Police Academy movies? For fun? | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
He's almost completely unconsciously funny. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
I don't think he ever says anything that he means to be funny. You know? | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
And that's really attractive to me. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
You know? I love that. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
# How many roads must a man walk down | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
# Before you can call him a man...? # | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
-Seven. -No, Dad, it's a rhetorical question. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
Rhetorical, eh? Eight. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
-Dad, do you even know what "rhetorical" means? -Do I know what "rhetorical" means? | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
But the appeal of Homer Simpson also lay in the writers' desire | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
to colour their character with some tenderness. | 0:42:02 | 0:42:06 | |
It's noticeable again how emotional Homer Simpson can be | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
and how the programme wants us to engage with his emotions | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
now and again. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:15 | |
It's so quiet here without the kids. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
What I wouldn't give to hear Lisa play another one of her jazzy tunes. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
Saxomophone... | 0:42:22 | 0:42:25 | |
Saxomophone... Ohhh... | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
For me, that's the really new and interesting thing that The Simpsons does, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
is that emotionality, that we're used to cartoons not being emotional. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
At least this time I'm awake for your goodbye. | 0:42:36 | 0:42:40 | |
Oh, Homer, remember, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
whatever happens, you have a mother and she's truly proud of you. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
The series where Homer meets his mother, who turns out to | 0:42:49 | 0:42:52 | |
have been a '60s revolutionary, is heartbreaking. | 0:42:52 | 0:42:56 | |
Don't forget me. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
Don't worry, Homer, you'll always be a part of me. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
D'oh! | 0:43:02 | 0:43:03 | |
I can barely talk about it without crying, I have to warn you, but he says... Oh, God! | 0:43:03 | 0:43:09 | |
..he says goodbye to his mother and he sits on the back of his car, I think, looking at | 0:43:09 | 0:43:15 | |
the road she's just travelled down, and it cuts back and it's dark and he's still sitting there. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:21 | |
You know what I mean? That is unbelievable. You know? | 0:43:21 | 0:43:24 | |
Now in its 20th year, The Simpsons remain ahead of the comedy curve | 0:43:39 | 0:43:45 | |
and a huge influence that inspired one of the most surreal and offbeat sitcoms of the '90s, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:51 | |
boasting not one but three fathers. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
I think we even might have said it aloud, that we were trying to do | 0:43:58 | 0:44:02 | |
with live action, what The Simpsons was able to do. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:04 | |
Watching The Simpsons, we thought, "Well, this is what a visual thing should be like," | 0:44:08 | 0:44:14 | |
more about what happens than what's said. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
I was just playing with them, Ted! | 0:44:18 | 0:44:20 | |
Playing with them?! You were jumping up and down with them, | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
running around with them and getting completely overexcited. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:32 | |
That's why you got sick on me. | 0:44:33 | 0:44:35 | |
The reason, I think, that Ted has lasted as long as it has is it's a mirror of a family. You know? | 0:44:37 | 0:44:43 | |
And when kids look at it, kids can see themselves in Dougal, | 0:44:43 | 0:44:46 | |
and they can see their dad in Ted, and they can see their grandfather in Jack, you know? | 0:44:46 | 0:44:53 | |
And that was something we discovered afterwards, and we realised that | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
accidentally we'd... created a family unit. | 0:44:56 | 0:45:01 | |
And be sure to keep warm, won't you? | 0:45:01 | 0:45:03 | |
Ted! Not in front of Mr Fox! | 0:45:03 | 0:45:05 | |
Hm? And stay on the left side of the road. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Duh! I know! | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
Like, for instance, when Ted says goodbye to Dougal when Dougal becomes a milkman, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:15 | |
there's a little kind of paternal tear as he watches Dougal drive away, and stuff like that. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
So I think we began to recognise that he was a dad of some sort. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:26 | |
Away from the pantomime of Father Ted, our political leaders were delivering sermons | 0:45:32 | 0:45:37 | |
about how Britain could wave goodbye to our class system. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:41 | |
The classless society is to give people the opportunity to move from one job to another, | 0:45:41 | 0:45:46 | |
to have a ladder of opportunity. | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
In 1997, as one middle-class man replaced another in Downing Street, | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
there was a great sense of optimism - yes, this man used to fill us with optimism - | 0:45:52 | 0:45:58 | |
about a new direction for Britain. | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
We have secured a mandate | 0:46:01 | 0:46:03 | |
to bring this nation together... | 0:46:03 | 0:46:07 | |
CROWDS CHEER | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
There was that assumption, certainly throughout the 1990s and once the Labour government came in, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:15 | |
Tony Blair came in, this assumption that we're all middle class now, it's all been levelled. | 0:46:15 | 0:46:20 | |
The concerns we had had for decades about the underclass or the working class, | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
actually that's all gone and we're all middle class. | 0:46:24 | 0:46:27 | |
But up in Manchester, one sitcom didn't get that Downing Street memo | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
and remained working class to the core. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:36 | |
# I would like to leave this city | 0:46:41 | 0:46:46 | |
# This old town don't smell too good... # | 0:46:46 | 0:46:49 | |
98 quid? | 0:46:49 | 0:46:51 | |
"It's good to talk" my arse. | 0:46:51 | 0:46:53 | |
Lots of people did reject The Royle Family, | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
saw it as just a throwback to the 1960s, an unrealistic, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:02 | |
stereotypical representation of working-class people, | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
and of course, Caroline Aherne and Craig Cash, who wrote it, said, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
"No, we're just writing about our families. We know lots of people who are like this." | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
-Antony, which room are you in, lad, this room or that room? -This room. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:16 | |
Well, what's the light on in that room for? | 0:47:16 | 0:47:19 | |
Anchored at the very centre of the show and to his chair, | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
sat Jim Royle, a father not blessed with a gentle touch. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:27 | |
Whereas a father in a sort of Mancunian family like that in the past | 0:47:27 | 0:47:30 | |
might have been very much the sort of strong patriarch, | 0:47:30 | 0:47:34 | |
the Jim Royle figure just doesn't do much. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:37 | |
He's quite a passive figure, you know, reacting to things | 0:47:37 | 0:47:41 | |
rather than actually actively controlling the situation. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
-You all right, Jim? -Aye, lad. | 0:47:44 | 0:47:46 | |
I can't smile wide enough, me. | 0:47:46 | 0:47:49 | |
You see a character who seems to have lost his sense of himself | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
outside of the family home, you know, so you have no sense of him working, | 0:47:53 | 0:47:58 | |
earning a wage, making his way in society, you know, | 0:47:58 | 0:48:01 | |
perhaps going through the stages that most people imagine they will do. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:04 | |
So where does he get his authority from? | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
He gets it from holding the remote! | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
And actually, nobody challenges him about that. | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
Oh! Look, it's him again. He's everywhere, him. | 0:48:11 | 0:48:14 | |
He's like shit in a field. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:17 | |
Leave it on, Dad! | 0:48:17 | 0:48:20 | |
She's had a facelift. They all have! | 0:48:22 | 0:48:24 | |
Shut it, Dad, I'm listening! | 0:48:24 | 0:48:27 | |
Oh, here's the gobshite now. | 0:48:27 | 0:48:29 | |
Look at him. Full of himself. | 0:48:29 | 0:48:31 | |
-He's a millionaire, him. -Aye, and he's still got ginger bollocks. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
Oh, that reminds me, I've got some tangerines in the kitchen. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
Anybody want a tangerine? | 0:48:37 | 0:48:40 | |
I also have a sense of the delicate balance that's being struck between | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
the family, between the parents particularly, where you have a wife who really doesn't want to confront | 0:48:44 | 0:48:50 | |
her husband, doesn't want to confront him and his lack of being a father | 0:48:50 | 0:48:54 | |
because it might make him crumble, it might expose things that nobody talks about. | 0:48:54 | 0:48:59 | |
Jim! Get upstairs! | 0:48:59 | 0:49:02 | |
-Our Denise's waters have broken! -What's broken? | 0:49:02 | 0:49:05 | |
Jim Royle may have been gruff and insensitive on the outside, | 0:49:05 | 0:49:08 | |
but when called upon, he was always there for his family. | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
..already in there. Come on! Now! | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
That scene where Caroline Aherne's waters break, that's a highly emotional scene | 0:49:14 | 0:49:19 | |
and a point where her dad is allowed to be emotional. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:22 | |
Let's play your tape, eh? | 0:49:23 | 0:49:25 | |
That does seem a similarity to Del Boy in Only Fools and Horses. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
We're getting a series of dads who occupy that authoritative role, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
who use humour to mock other people and to maintain their position | 0:49:37 | 0:49:42 | |
and yet at moments of extreme can be emotional and nobody minds about that. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:48 | |
-Denise... -Yeah? | 0:49:49 | 0:49:52 | |
Are you definitely sure it wasn't just a great big piss, love? | 0:49:52 | 0:49:57 | |
No, I know it wasn't. | 0:49:57 | 0:49:59 | |
And again, you go back to sitcoms of the 1950s and '60s, | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
and it's very hard to find that kind of representation, that emotionality. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:07 | |
We welcomed in the new millennium with style, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:12 | |
and the rest of the decade would be full of fireworks, too. | 0:50:12 | 0:50:16 | |
We had a credit boom and spectacular bust. | 0:50:16 | 0:50:19 | |
We continued to be deluged by tedious celebrity coverage whilst our country went to war. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:27 | |
Throughout, our biggest hit sitcoms were a study in the everyday grind of the office | 0:50:27 | 0:50:33 | |
and a gentle comedy about a long-distance love affair, with family values much to the fore. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
But in 2000, a hidden comedy gem appeared featuring a devoted father | 0:50:42 | 0:50:46 | |
whose spirit is rarely dampened | 0:50:46 | 0:50:48 | |
by his estrangement from his wife and children. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
Good morning, good morning! | 0:50:55 | 0:50:56 | |
Bright and early. | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
Another day, another dollar. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:01 | |
My first pick-up, please. | 0:51:01 | 0:51:04 | |
STATIC HISSES ON RADIO | 0:51:04 | 0:51:05 | |
For my money, Marion and Geoff is the single best piece of television | 0:51:05 | 0:51:10 | |
of its time. I think it's better than The Office. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
I think if they did Marion and Geoff onstage at the National Theatre, | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
it'd win all kinds of awards and people would say it was brilliant. | 0:51:16 | 0:51:19 | |
Because it was on BBC2 and not that many people watched it, it's kind of forgotten. | 0:51:19 | 0:51:24 | |
I don't feel like I've lost a wife, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
I feel like I've gained a friend. | 0:51:27 | 0:51:29 | |
I would never have met Geoff if Marion hadn't left me. Not a chance. | 0:51:29 | 0:51:33 | |
Marion and Geoff was centred exclusively on the luckless Keith Barret, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:38 | |
who appeared to be blind to the loss of his wife and his children to another man. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
That's the boys' room just there. | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
They've changed the curtains. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:50 | |
Sleep tight, little angels. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:56 | |
It's the first comedy in which you believe that the character could actually really exist. | 0:51:56 | 0:52:02 | |
He might as well be real, he's so well observed, | 0:52:02 | 0:52:05 | |
he's so rounded, and that, I think, makes it a REAL breakthrough. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:09 | |
He thinks he's defined my his job. | 0:52:09 | 0:52:11 | |
In the programme, we only ever see him sitting in a car driving places, and he talks about his job. | 0:52:11 | 0:52:17 | |
But actually, it's quite clear he's defined entirely by his parental role. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:21 | |
His wife has left him and married somebody else, and so now he only sees his two children rarely. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:29 | |
To be fair to Marion, when I was up there two weekends ago, she said the kids had missed me. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:34 | |
I think in her own way, what she was saying was, "It would be nice if you were there with us". | 0:52:34 | 0:52:39 | |
Now, she can't say that, of course not. I'm not a fool. | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
She can't say that in front of Geoff. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
So I suggested it. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
Erm, and fair play to Geoff - again, you've got to say | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
fair play to Geoff - because he didn't veto it outright, | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
he didn't veto the suggestion. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
In fact he said, you know, | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
it'd be a bit cosy. | 0:52:57 | 0:52:59 | |
In some ways, it's a very different representation. He's kind of quite childish towards his children. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:04 | |
He doesn't talk about them very often as an authority figure. | 0:53:04 | 0:53:08 | |
But also it's quite a new representation precisely, because it's a couple who have split up, | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
so it's about a father and children without the mother there, | 0:53:13 | 0:53:17 | |
which doesn't happen in sitcom that often. | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
Never had children, though, you see, Geoff. He has now, obviously. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
But, er, | 0:53:24 | 0:53:26 | |
never had children. I always felt, "Well, there's something, I do have the edge on you there | 0:53:26 | 0:53:32 | |
"with my two little smashers." | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
The status quo is never restored. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
He carries on losing, and things actually get worse for him, and it gets darker and darker. | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
And there's a very interesting question about at what point | 0:53:42 | 0:53:46 | |
does a sitcom or a comedy cease to be a comedy, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
when it's actually more sad than it is funny? | 0:53:48 | 0:53:52 | |
I mean, don't get be wrong, Marion and Geoff is very funny, but it's actually sadder than it is amusing. | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
Come on. Big hug. | 0:53:57 | 0:54:00 | |
There. | 0:54:00 | 0:54:02 | |
See? You're all right, aren't you? | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
Eh? Who's got a big hug? | 0:54:05 | 0:54:07 | |
Hey? Who's Daddy's boys? | 0:54:11 | 0:54:13 | |
Who's Daddy's boys? | 0:54:13 | 0:54:15 | |
In 2007, a sitcom hit more positive notes. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:23 | |
Gavin And Stacey began as a love affair | 0:54:23 | 0:54:26 | |
between an Essex boy and a Welsh girl. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
But the cast quickly grew to include the families. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
Pineapple and melon, croissant, pain au chocolat and brioche. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:38 | |
In all the commotion, one very traditional sitcom dad filled a key comic function. | 0:54:38 | 0:54:43 | |
We're talking about Gavin's new girlfriend, not Princess Di. | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
You do not mention that hussy's name in this house, and you know that, Michael! | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
I think in Gavin And Stacey, you kind of needed the dad to be like that. | 0:54:50 | 0:54:54 | |
Larry Lamb in Gavin And Stacey is like the holding midfielder. | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
He kind of gets it and he gives it. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
That's his job. He's the kind of buffer there. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
He kind of does what he needs to do and then he lets Alison Steadman get on with it. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:08 | |
Right, well, I'm off. That was terrific. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
Lovely to meet you, Stacey. | 0:55:10 | 0:55:12 | |
That character of Mick had to represent an element of stability and warmth. | 0:55:12 | 0:55:19 | |
He's just like a ordinary bloke that's got a job in a factory. | 0:55:19 | 0:55:22 | |
You know, he's a sort of a manager, medium level or whatever he is | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
in a factory somewhere, he's not anything special. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
You know? They're all normal people, and I think that's its strength. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:33 | |
Oh, Michael, | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
-just hold me! -Hey, what's up? | 0:55:36 | 0:55:39 | |
Can't you see what's going on? | 0:55:39 | 0:55:41 | |
With Jackie Onassis in there? I know. What's that all about? | 0:55:41 | 0:55:45 | |
It's evidently, plainly obvious that our son has been beating that poor girl. | 0:55:45 | 0:55:49 | |
Are you mad? | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
The main father figure of the Larry Lamb character is good-humoured, tolerant, patient. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:57 | |
He even gives Gavin advice on his sperm count, you know, all this kind of thing. | 0:55:57 | 0:56:02 | |
He's everybody's perfect father, I suppose. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:04 | |
I just feel like I've let everyone down, y'know? | 0:56:04 | 0:56:07 | |
-Like who, for Christ's sake? -You and Mum. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:10 | |
-Oh, don't be silly. -I do! | 0:56:10 | 0:56:13 | |
I know she's not saying anything, but I saw how upset she was when I told her. | 0:56:13 | 0:56:17 | |
-You and her, you'd make brilliant grandparents. -Come here! | 0:56:17 | 0:56:21 | |
-It's essentially all in a positive vein. -There's so many what-ifs, Dad. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:27 | |
It's not about people trying to amass a fortune, | 0:56:27 | 0:56:31 | |
it's not about trying to get rich or have one over, | 0:56:31 | 0:56:35 | |
it kind of cuts into the lives of people who are just existing, you know, just going along. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:42 | |
Congratulations, son. Now, are you really sure about this? | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
1,000 per cent. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
The huge success of such a restrained sitcom with a reassuring father at the helm | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
says much about our current comedy cravings. | 0:56:52 | 0:56:56 | |
Gavin And Stacey is an avowedly kind of warm, reassuring, backward-looking comedy. | 0:56:56 | 0:57:03 | |
It's part of, dare I say, a balanced cultural diet, | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
and you need these kinds of... comfort foods, if you like. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:12 | |
I think if all we had was Gavin And Stacey, we'd probably want to kill ourselves, | 0:57:12 | 0:57:16 | |
but thankfully, there's always something dark out there, and we need the two. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:21 | |
-No. -What? -You are not having toast! | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
-Why? -I can't be doing with crumbs, not today! -But I want some toast! | 0:57:26 | 0:57:30 | |
Do not start, Mick, please. | 0:57:30 | 0:57:32 | |
After three award-winning series, Gavin And Stacey achieved closure. | 0:57:32 | 0:57:36 | |
At the same time, it also marked the end of a short but successful comedy career. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:42 | |
I can't quite see going on doing it. | 0:57:42 | 0:57:45 | |
You know, I like a bit of drama. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:48 | |
It's much easier to make 'em cry! | 0:57:48 | 0:57:49 | |
For the last 50 years, Britain has seen remarkable social change. | 0:57:53 | 0:57:57 | |
The way families live now bears little resemblance to the past. | 0:57:57 | 0:58:02 | |
Oh, my Gawd! What am I going to do? | 0:58:02 | 0:58:05 | |
Kiss of life. | 0:58:05 | 0:58:06 | |
As comedy reacts to the change around it, there is one thing | 0:58:10 | 0:58:14 | |
that we can say for certain - the sitcom dad is here to stay. | 0:58:14 | 0:58:18 | |
IN A SINGSONG VOICE: Jealous, jealous! Jealous, jealous! | 0:58:20 | 0:58:23 | |
You have to have a father in a sitcom. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:31 | |
They're like the sitcom equivalent of a can opener. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
Every household should have one, otherwise it can't function. | 0:58:34 | 0:58:37 | |
And they've always been there. | 0:58:37 | 0:58:39 | |
I think they always will be there. | 0:58:39 | 0:58:41 | |
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