The Late Great Eric Sykes


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Writer, performer, director, actor -

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Eric Sykes was a unique talent in the world of British comedy.

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He was one of the very few people I have ever worked with

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who I would honestly say had a touch of genius.

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LAUGHTER

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What did you do that for?

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It was looking at me.

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LAUGHTER

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People who could make US laugh were our, kind of, role models.

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Eric was one of those.

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We all used to say

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if we didn't laugh 18 hours, maybe we'd had a bad day.

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-Can I get going now?

-Oh, bread.

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LAUGHTER

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Anyone could tune in and believe in this person

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and say, "Where is this person going to take me?"

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Oh, I dropped it.

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He was a terrific, naturalistic actor.

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I think Eric Sykes was the perfect common man.

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If you don't mind, we'll...

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LAUGHTER

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It wasn't necessarily all belly laughs,

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you'd just go, "Oh, you're mad, you're brilliant, I love you."

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Hello, viewers.

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LAUGHTER

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NEWSREADER: 'The actor and comedian Eric Sykes has died

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'after a short illness at the age of 89.

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'For half a century, his career spanned stage, film and television.'

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For 50 years,

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Eric Sykes worked at his office in Orme Court, West London.

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It was here that he created and wrote iconic comedy shows

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and worked alongside some of the greatest names

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in the world of entertainment.

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Sykes was in here, on the left,

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and Ray Galton and Alan Simpson were in here.

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And this is Eric's office.

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This is Tommy's fez.

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They were very friendly, Tommy and Eric.

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We've had our ups and downs.

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Well, you have to on a ship, sir.

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LAUGHTER

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Eric's favourite of all time, Laurel and Hardy.

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This is his desk. Eric wrote for Frankie Howerd.

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'You've got no idea. You have no idea.

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'Well you can't have, I haven't told you yet.'

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And that's a lovely picture of Hattie and Eric.

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-Hello, Hat.

-Cooee!

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CUCKOO CLOCK

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Hello, clock. LAUGHTER

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He'd love a cigar, but he kept the boxes, so he could go and open them

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and have a smell every now and again because he couldn't smoke any more.

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When he was ill,

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probably about three or four days before he died,

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he said, "You know what I'd really like more than anything

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"is just to come back to Orme Court just one more time."

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This is the photograph of his mother

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and his desk was positioned right in a line with her.

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He loved the fact that she was there with him all the time.

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Born in Oldham in 1923,

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the beginning of Sykes's life was marked by tragedy.

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His mother died giving birth to him,

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an event that would come to shape the rest of his life.

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ERIC: Nobody ever really talked about my mother.

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She was a bit of a taboo subject at home.

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Was there a sense in which you were blamed or felt guilty?

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In a way, yes. In a way.

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And there were times when I felt almost like a lodger in my own house.

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He was absolutely certain that she both guided him

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and guarded him,

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and he always said she was looking after him.

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In 1941, Sykes left Oldham to join the forces.

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It was here that he would meet Leading Aircraftman Denis Norden

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and take his first step into the world of entertainment.

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We were both training to be wireless operators

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and, in fact, for the rest of our days

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whenever we met, we would address each other in Morse code.

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It was decided that what the troops needed at that point -

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it was about six weeks after D-Day - was some entertainment.

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When the war finished, Bill Fraser, you know THE Bill Fraser,

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Bill Fraser and Snudge, marvellous man, formed a concert party

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which was written by Ron Rich, who is now a vicar, and Denis Norden.

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And I don't know what happened to Denis but...

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I remember the first person to audition

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was an RAF regiment sergeant who chewed razor blades as his offering.

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Then second, up comes Eric, who, actually,

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as his audition piece did a drunk act.

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Not very well, it wasn't his native kind of comedy.

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Despite this shaky start, Sykes had passed the audition

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and joined the revue.

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Eric didn't look like a comedian.

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He had a diffident way of expressing himself,

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he didn't come on with the big personality thing

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like most of the comedians of the variety school did in those days,

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and it was evident then that Eric was pure gold.

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At the end of the war, Sykes was demobbed and returned to Oldham.

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It was here that he would receive a phone call

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that would change his life.

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'He may titter, titter he may.'

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LAUGHTER

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Well, the pinnacle just after the war was Variety Bandbox

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and Frankie Howerd became the pulse of Variety Bandbox.

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Well, at that time, Frankie Howerd was the biggest thing

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on radio and asked if Eric would write for him.

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FRANKIE: In Variety Bandbox,

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one of the most amusing things I think I did,

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and I can say that because I didn't write it, was a piece where

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I was a messenger boy having to take two elephants to Crewe

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and, you know, it was all so stupid

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but Eric Sykes wrote this, and he was a brilliant writer,

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and he wrote these extraordinary stories for me.

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'I went along to the depot and I saw the porter and I said, "Look,

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"I'll sign for these goods," and he said,

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'"Good, they're labelled and ready, get them out of here quick."

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'So I signed for them and went along.

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'They were labelled and ready all right. Two elephants.

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'Two ele-phants.'

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SCREECHES: I was amazed!

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LAUGHTER

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It took what is now called "stand up"

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in an entirely different direction as well.

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A long narrative instead of a series of one-liners.

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'I said, "How do I get these to Crewe?" He said, "I don't care where you get them to,

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"but get them out of here." He said, "The place has been in uproar,

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"in uproar the place has been."

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I think writing for another comedian must be very, very difficult

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and to write for an eccentric character like Frankie Howerd,

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it must have been quite tricky.

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What a master of language

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and what a master of comic concepts Eric Sykes was.

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He always said it was Frankie Howerd who gave him his biggest break.

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By the 1950s, Sykes was one of the highest-paid scriptwriters

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in the country,

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pulling in audiences of 15 million on hit shows like Educating Archie.

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Impressed by a programme he'd heard on the radio,

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Sykes now teamed up with fellow writer Spike Milligan

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and together they had an idea for a company to nurture new talent.

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Joined by writers Ray Galton and Alan Simpson,

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Associated London Scripts was born,

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with their first office above a greengrocer's in Shepherd's Bush.

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The four of them had got this idea about a place

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where new writers could come, and they all have their own careers,

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obviously, so they were writing away and I did everything else.

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Other people came.

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Johnny Speight came and, of course,

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he went on to write the famous Till Death Us Do Part.

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Terry Nation came, he created the Daleks.

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I would go to Eric's office and as I'd open the door to go in,

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Spike Milligan would come out.

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'Hallo!'

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LAUGHTER

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As I'd turn round to see Spike going down the stairs,

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Tony Hancock would be coming up.

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'You can testify as to my complete innocence in this.

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'Tell him how I would hoodwinked by the fast-talking Sydney James.'

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Frankie Howerd's work came out of there, and Galton and Simpson.

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Is there anybody there?

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Can you hear me?

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Everybody was up there. If we were going out for the evening,

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Me and Tommy Cooper would always meet at Orme Court

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and it was a great place, great fun.

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We became known as the Fun Factory.

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Well, I first came here as a personal assistant to Spike Milligan.

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-How are you?

-All right, how are you?

-We carry on as normal, do we?

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-Nice to see you.

-We're just good friends, obviously,

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we just happen to share the same bed, that's all.

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I came into this building and there was literally Eric Sykes.

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My first impression was this whiff of cigar smoke

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coming in and then it was Eric.

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And I remember him, oh, about two or three days later,

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saying, "Well, who are you?"

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And I said, "I've come as Spike's PA." He said, "Oh,

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"good luck to you then, darling."

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They were always doing really ridiculous things together.

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I mean Spike and Eric

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wouldn't talk to each other.

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They would phone each other and they'd be in the same room.

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Silly games, but relieved their tension when they were writing,

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anything to stave off the day when you went to the typewriter.

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But out of this fun and this mayhem, really, came this wonderful work.

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# Over the hills and... #

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER

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LAUGHTER

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Well, Eric and Spike were friends because they were both geniuses, in their own way.

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One, two, hup.

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LAUGHTER

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They always had good ideas. They used to argue.

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One said one thing, he'd say the opposite, and they got on very well.

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I mean, they almost got sort of like husband and wife really, you know.

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They got on. If they had a row and they'd never remember it the next day when they came in.

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LAUGHTER

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Dad absolutely understood Spike.

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I'm not sure Spike absolutely understood Dad

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because he didn't need to.

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I think Spike was the one that Dad really nurtured.

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If you said anything against Spike, Eric would be in there like a flash.

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You know, "Well, he's done this and he's done that."

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They had an office at the end of a corridor and Spike would get

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out of his room to walk across the corridor to come into Dad's office.

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"I've written this joke, what do you think?"

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Dad would go, "Give me a minute. I'll come and I'll tell you about it.

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"Go back to your office." Spike would go back to his office and Dad would read the joke,

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and go, "OK," come out of his office, walk down the corridor, go into Spike's office,

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"It's all right," and walk back.

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I mean, they would do comedy inadvertently

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and they would enjoy it and they loved each other's humour.

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What is a jail break?

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Answer - a BRAKE used for stopping jails.

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Their admiration for each other's comedy would come into its own

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with the writing of the Goon Show.

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'This is the story of a desperate man in prison.

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'Yes, it is I.

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'I was the Governor.'

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LAUGHTER

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Spike, sadly, had these fits of depression which seemed to me

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over the years to get stronger, and he would sometimes

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be in the office for two days, you know, not come out.

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When Spike wasn't feeling very well, he asked Dad to help create

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some of the Goons and, seamlessly, he took over

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the writing of some of them.

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'The BBC would like to caution parents -

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'this programme is unsuitable for the very young, the very old,

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'the middle- aged, those just going off, those on the turn.'

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To come here and actually write like Spike and in the spirit of Spike,

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I think that must be really, really difficult.

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'Why is that tiger wearing brown boots?

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'Because his black ones are at the mender's.'

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LAUGHTER

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-'What I mean is, why does a tiger wear boots?

-Well, it's lucky.

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-'Why?

-Well, what other tiger has got two pairs of boots to wear?'

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Eric must have understood Spike

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and Spike must have appreciated Eric, and I think

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that's a most interesting relationship.

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Eric had a row with Spike in the Goon Show.

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They argued for about an hour about one word.

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And it got quite heated and Spike threw a paperweight at Eric.

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And after that, Eric said, "I'm not going to work with him ever again."

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But they had a lifelong friendship which, you know,

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very, very rare in this business.

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It was the end of an era for Associated London Scripts

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when, in 1967, they were approached for a takeover.

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This would split the company in two.

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Spike said, "I don't want to go,"

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and then Eric came in and he said, "Isn't Spike going?"

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I said, "He doesn't want to go, I don't know."

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He said, "Well, if he doesn't want to go, I'll stay with him.

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I mean, it was as simple as that.

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So, in a way, it kind of, one might say,

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broke up the family that we'd originally had.

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Eric took it personally

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and thought that they perhaps... they were deserting him.

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They weren't deserting him, he chose not to go.

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But the break up of Associated London Scripts didn't mean

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that Sykes let up in his writing.

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This is Eric Sykes' quote.

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"When you're a writer, you are a writer 24 hours a day.

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"You wake up in the morning and the first thing you think was,

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"'That sketch didn't work very well last night, I'll have to re-write it.'"

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I've got a feeling this whole operation is coming apart.

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What do you mean, sir?

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What do I mean?

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LAUGHTER

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I'll get it fixed. I'll get it fixed.

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OK. Bosun, bosun! Take the wheel.

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All right, then.

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LAUGHTER

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The pressure on him to write a script,

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as any single scriptwriter would know, is quite tough

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year in, year out, to produce such a high standard.

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You joined up for hostilities only, or are you regular?

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Regular, sir.

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After breakfast every morning.

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It's tiring, it's a lot of pressure, and I just admire him so much

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for his work ethic and what he put in and how many series he did.

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Which part of the work do you prefer? Writing or performing?

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Performing.

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-Performing.

-Yes.

-Writing, oh, that's a drag, that,

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when you sit there in front of a blank sheet of paper.

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It's great when you've done it.

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It's like, you know, like you've just given birth.

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But when you're writing it's terrible,

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it's the longest thing in the world, you know?

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Mmm.

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Mind if I come aboard?

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Would you like to come in, Mr Brown?

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Well, I was coming alongside and the wind veered, so I started to tack.

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Ah, he tacked.

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Tacked. He's left me with nothing.

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LAUGHTER

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Wasn't that the right line?

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Oh, well, try again.

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What was the right line?

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Tacked in.

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LAUGHTER

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You can tell the joy of being in front of an audience,

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and how much it's him and he wants it,

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but when things go wrong I can just see, and I know it myself,

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that slight body language of,

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"We haven't given the audience the perfect..."

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Such was his honour to that, to the audience and to his craft.

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LAUGHTER

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You know your line, "You'll be in soon"?

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I thought, "Not at the rate they're going, I won't."

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HE LAUGHS

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Was it tacked in?

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If you like.

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Shall we do it all again?

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He knew exactly what he wanted.

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He was a complete perfectionist, and if it didn't work,

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he would spent five, six, seven hours making it work.

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More than once when I was actually in his office,

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I would see him writing at the desk, and he'd stop and he'd look up,

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and it wasn't a big deal, but he once in a while said something like,

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you know, he'd be writing something and he'd say,

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"My mother would have liked this."

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He always, always, always said she was looking after him.

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He used to get a shudder, and I actually once or twice saw it.

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-ERIC:

-You know the feeling you get

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when you say, "Somebody has walked over my grave?

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I used to get that feeling,

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and then not long after that, I would write something good.

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Do you still get it?

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes, and when I'm in a bit of trouble sometimes,

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or a bit down, you know, I've only got to think of my mother,

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and it's a sort of a... I get the same feeling.

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On 29th January 1960,

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Sykes burst onto our screens with a brand new series.

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It became one of the BBC's biggest hits,

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and would make him a household name.

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Good afternoon, everybody.

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On behalf of driver Sykes and his crew,

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we welcome you aboard Routemaster 136.

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There will be no smoking on the lower decks.

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We will be travelling at about nine miles per hour,

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and our ETA is 10 past 11, our time.

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We trust you will all have a pleasant journey.

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The weather in Cuffs Hill is fine.

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Bonjour, mesdames et messieurs.

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Bienvenue maitre d'...

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RINGS BELL

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Give me a chance to ding.

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If you talk about Eric Sykes,

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you immediately go, Sykes or Sykes in a hat, or...

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I mean...which was a legendary set.

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LAUGHTER

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I put it to Eric that the BBC could certainly do with him

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in a series in which he was the prominent one.

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By George, quick!

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What is it?

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Well, of all the low-down, cunning tricks.

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What's the matter?

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He's got a telescope at the window.

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Johnny Speight came up with a script

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that paired Eric and Hattie Jacques as a married couple.

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Eric suggested to Johnny that he and Hattie be brother and sister.

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More than that, twins.

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And more than that, identical twins.

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-Look at that, you and me as children.

-Yes.

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Look at those pigtails.

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Yes.

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And look at mine.

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Eric wasn't your run-of-the-mill comedian,

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because he had that slightly melancholy air about him,

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which one didn't in those days associate with the very outgoing,

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extrovert, exuberant comedians of those days.

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He really was swimming against that tide.

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LAUGHTER

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CUCKOO CLOCK SPLUTTERS

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It was rather a bewildered character that he played,

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and, "Oh, what's going on here?"

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And that appealed to me, cos I thought it was just gentler.

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I'm not getting any younger.

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Neither am I, we're twins, remember?

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LAUGHTER

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Well, I think it's time we thought about getting married.

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LAUGHTER

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It's illegal, isn't it?

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The series was two misfits trying to cope with the world,

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and that's sort of what we all feel, isn't it?

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Um...

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But he did it in such a brilliant way

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that it wasn't sort of too... you know,

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too pitying or too sad or too self-effacing,

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he generally just made us laugh.

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If I'd known, I would have stayed in the Navy.

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You were never in the Navy.

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Don't keep changing the subject.

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That's what is so clever, though, about those...

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the world that he created, is that you just sort of went with it,

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you just believed it.

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It was based on enough truth, however heightened the comedy was.

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Well, I thought they were real.

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That's what I think about Eric Sykes and Hattie Jacques,

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they felt very real.

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He's doing comedy about people in situations,

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and someone very much like him.

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You know that one, three down, five letters,

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brother and sister born at the same time?

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That was "twins."

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LAUGHTER

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I put that in.

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No, you put "twits."

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LAUGHTER

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The whole idea of Sykes was that here was just

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what appeared to be an ordinary man.

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It wasn't a sort of big showbiz extravaganza,

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it wasn't anybody with an enormous, sort of, ego and personality

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seeking to dominate anybody else.

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-Here, old boy!

-DOG BARKS

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SMASH!

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DOG BARKS

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LAUGHTER

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The audience understood him.

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They knew who he was, what he was, what was the character.

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They felt he had a certain amount of pathos

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about some of his performance.

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They're rounding up all the men in the street.

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I don't know why they want you.

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Comedy can be very broad or wide, or, you know,

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just going for a laugh, or, "Here comes the laugh,"

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whereas Eric Sykes had a quality that was very rooted in reality.

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If she was anything of a looker, she wouldn't have to advertise.

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Oh, he's got a telephone.

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748 2269.

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PHONE RINGS

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LAUGHTER

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748 2269.

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I've always found it very appealing

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that you can have a writer or writers

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who will take one little idea and then build around it.

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What are you looking for, dear?

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The key. I put it down here.

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But the rubbish..!

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With that rubbish.

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I put it in the boiler!

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In the boiler?! That's our freedom in that boiler.

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You're trying to set up a load of things

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where two people are handcuffed together,

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what problems they can get into.

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I think what made it real as well is they underplayed it an awful lot.

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That one.

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Put it there.

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There we are. OK?

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Yeah, get a knife and fork...

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The writing was so good, but you don't overplay it, you don't panic,

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it's a question of living with this, and it's just sort of, um...

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-Yes, he...

-And "OK," and all that, but so underplayed.

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Right, come on now.

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There we are. Good?

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LAUGHTER

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Oh, yes, that's a good idea.

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Now look, I'll cut it, that's right, there we are.

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Ahh...

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You just get two people who are comedic people,

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and if they are good and they like each other,

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the chemistry between people like that, you can't beat,

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it is perfection.

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That's the one. Ha-ha-ha-ha...

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Actually, I'm not really hungry.

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Sykes first met Hattie Jacques when he'd seen her perform in 1948,

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and went on to write for her in Educating Archie.

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Their relationship would form the heart

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of the long-running Sykes series.

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Eric knew Hattie, and he was desperately fond of her.

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A Spanish number, Hay Un Jardin Con La Fuente Pequena.

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It's always been vetted.

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PLAYS SPANISH TUNE

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HATTIE CLAPS

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I hadn't finished yet.

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Eric and Hattie were great friends off screen.

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They got on really, really well,

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and so I think working together was rather obvious.

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Before he went, he made a very nice gesture.

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How much?

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LAUGHTER

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'We were like a family.

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'Hat was really like my sister, or my identical twin, as we had it.'

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When we finished the series, I would go away and do other things,

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and Hat would do some of the Carry On films,

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so when we met again, it was like coming home, it was...

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oh, it was lovely.

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-Man goes to cupboard.

-Yes.

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Gets large piece of equipment.

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How do you spell that?

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M-A-N.

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Between Eric and Hattie, there was also great loyalty.

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They used to defend each other.

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They didn't... Hattie certainly didn't kowtow to Eric.

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Oh, no, she would tell Eric if... not in any nasty way,

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she would tell Eric if she thought something in the script

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wasn't right or wasn't working.

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Hey!

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LAUGHTER

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Eric said, when he was writing,

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before she even turned the page, she knew what he had written.

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TAPPING

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SHE CHUCKLES

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He's playing golf with a hard boiled egg.

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They were so used to each other, and they knew how each other worked,

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and they just sort of would take a scene to another level.

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That double act had to be extraordinary

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to sustain over many series.

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I think it's an octopus.

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I just loved them, and totally believed them as brother and sister.

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HE HUMS A TUNE

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And now...

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..they left Scapa Flow at dawn.

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LAUGHTER

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He would go for extreme real, like the toe stuck in the bath.

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It's where you should go

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if you're trying to play for the drama within a scene.

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You just keep expanding it until it can go to this place.

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RINGS BELL

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What is it now?

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Can you get Mr Brown?

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Oh, not again.

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Yes, my toe.

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Well, I don't like to ask him.

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Are you sure your toe's stuck in the tap?

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Well, of course I'm sure it's stuck in the tap. I'm sitting here facing it.

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And it's right there.

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Come on, Hattie, go on, the water's getting cold.

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Well, pour some more hot in.

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It's stuck up the hot water tap.

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Eric just was doing things that you would see your father do,

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or somebody get wrong at the garage,

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get a finger stuck or something like that.

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It was the delight in the everyday traps,

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pitfalls to which someone can fall.

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Ow!

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The pain!

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I shall never be able to dance again.

0:28:120:28:14

We just wanted him to win.

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We wanted his world to get better,

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but yet we totally empathised with his foolishness.

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So it's that combination, I think.

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Try and flush it out.

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Yes, that's quite a good idea.

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Righto.

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Oh! Sykes,

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-you knew that was going to happen, didn't you?

-No...

-Yet you let...

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RINGS BELL

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You would trust him. You wanted to see where he was going to go.

0:28:360:28:39

You'd hear the music, and I can just hear it now, actually,

0:28:520:28:54

in my head while I'm talking, it was the drum going boom, boom, boom.

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"SYKES" THEME MUSIC

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We would go and see him at the BBC studios and record his programme.

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All right, all right, where is he, then?

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Don't come dashing in here like Starsky and Hutch.

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I actually would enjoy seeing... A - seeing Dad work with Hattie,

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but also seeing the audience laugh,

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because he would make us laugh at home as children,

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and that was natural for us, that was what he did,

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but to come and see him make other people laugh

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was quite extraordinary.

0:29:360:29:37

Mind if I drop my anchor?

0:29:370:29:39

-I don't mind if you drop your...

-Eric!

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LAUGHTER

0:29:400:29:42

I was very much aware of studio audiences.

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If you are doing something you worked on for a week,

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and throughout the half hour you're doing it,

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or 45 minutes it takes to record,

0:29:530:29:55

you hear that audience continuously laughing,

0:29:550:29:58

it's a huge tonic.

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ERIC SIGHS

0:30:010:30:02

LAUGHTER

0:30:070:30:08

Eric, could you spare a moment?

0:30:110:30:13

Hattie was a great giggler, and often, Dad could just catch his eye,

0:30:130:30:18

and just give a glint to her, and she would just go.

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He said she thought Wood Lane Athletic would win,

0:30:210:30:23

and I said I thought it would be...

0:30:230:30:26

LAUGHTER

0:30:260:30:27

I just bit her earring off.

0:30:410:30:43

LAUGHTER

0:30:430:30:45

That was a technical hitch, wasn't it?

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-It was indeed, a technical hitch.

-Yeah.

0:30:540:30:56

Wasn't us.

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LAUGHTER

0:31:000:31:01

Do you always carry doughnuts in your pocket?

0:31:010:31:03

I do when I've got them.

0:31:030:31:05

LAUGHTER

0:31:050:31:07

APPLAUSE

0:31:070:31:09

I'm terribly sorry.

0:31:100:31:12

LAUGHTER

0:31:160:31:17

It could have happened to a good show.

0:31:170:31:19

It's always fun, and they made each other laugh.

0:31:200:31:23

Is there an actor in the audience?

0:31:230:31:25

LAUGHTER

0:31:250:31:26

But Sykes didn't score a hit with every show.

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In 1969, he appeared alongside Spike Milligan in Curry and Chips,

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written by Johnny Speight.

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The series would prove controversial,

0:31:390:31:41

and was cancelled after just six episodes.

0:31:410:31:43

Now then, I want to tell you that I am very glad

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to be able to work in this beautiful factory.

0:31:460:31:48

Tell me what kind of job can I do to help your poor Queen

0:31:480:31:51

and Prince Philip back to prosperity?

0:31:510:31:53

LAUGHTER

0:31:530:31:55

Whoa, you couldn't put it on now!

0:31:550:31:57

I couldn't believe how racist it was. That was unbelievable.

0:31:570:32:00

When I was doing it, it didn't even occur to me that it was racist.

0:32:000:32:03

Either I start him, or the firm gets fined, or I do.

0:32:030:32:05

And if you do start him, you might have a strike on your hands.

0:32:050:32:08

Quite right, Norman.

0:32:080:32:09

LAUGHTER

0:32:090:32:11

It was just...

0:32:110:32:13

wasn't it...on the wrong side of what was acceptable?

0:32:130:32:19

But his own series was still flying high

0:32:190:32:22

as Sykes continued to develop his unique brand of comedy.

0:32:220:32:25

Anything he did, it were very visual.

0:32:250:32:27

Even when he spoke and his comedy acting.

0:32:270:32:29

-Always very visual.

-It was.

-He had a visual face.

0:32:290:32:32

Primer, cocker, setter, detonator.

0:32:320:32:36

Primer, cocker, setter, detonator.

0:32:370:32:40

Primer, cocker, setter, detonator.

0:32:410:32:44

Primer, cocker, setter, detonator.

0:32:450:32:50

I often wondered whether his ideas came from his writing to begin with.

0:32:500:32:54

-Yes.

-You know, so he's actually written the plot,

0:32:540:32:56

written the storyline, and then thinks,

0:32:560:32:58

"Right, now how do we improve on this?"

0:32:580:33:00

And of course then the wisdom and the great brain,

0:33:000:33:04

comedy brain, he had for visual comedy, he would then adapt the two.

0:33:040:33:08

Visual comedy is the most international of all languages.

0:33:160:33:19

Everybody can understand it.

0:33:190:33:21

PIANO PLAYS

0:33:210:33:23

He was a mime comedian as well as a verbal comedian.

0:33:290:33:31

He was angular and strange and weird.

0:33:310:33:35

There was nobody like him.

0:33:350:33:36

If you've got somebody with a face like him, it's very difficult to just go into the background.

0:33:380:33:42

He could never do that, it's an impossibility.

0:33:420:33:44

I remember seeing his face for the first time and just thinking, "You're funny."

0:33:440:33:48

You just think, "What else could you have done for a living?"

0:33:480:33:51

LAUGHTER

0:33:510:33:53

He had this repertoire of gestures and sudden stillness...

0:34:000:34:06

PIANO STOPS ABRUPTLY

0:34:060:34:07

..creating a kind of pool of quiet around him.

0:34:070:34:11

LAUGHTER

0:34:130:34:15

HE COUGHS

0:34:240:34:25

PIANO PLAYS

0:34:260:34:28

LAUGHTER

0:34:350:34:36

Despite wowing audiences,

0:34:370:34:39

behind the scenes, Sykes had been battling hearing loss for many years.

0:34:390:34:43

I think Dad has always used his body.

0:34:430:34:45

I think because of his deafness, you know, for many, many years,

0:34:450:34:49

he worked, actually, without hearing much of what was going on.

0:34:490:34:52

How do you judge audience reaction, though, Eric?

0:34:520:34:55

-Difficult.

-Is it?

-Are they in?

0:34:550:34:56

LAUGHTER

0:34:560:34:58

No, I can just get it.

0:34:580:35:00

That's why I've got to work harder than other comics,

0:35:000:35:02

-because if they don't laugh hard, I'm lost, you know.

-Yeah.

0:35:020:35:05

I think to portray his words in a better way,

0:35:050:35:10

he would always be visual.

0:35:100:35:12

He would always move a shoulder or take a double step or head turn,

0:35:120:35:17

just to actually put a dot on the comedy.

0:35:170:35:21

THUD!

0:35:220:35:23

I call him the Beethoven of comedy,

0:35:260:35:29

because he was writing comedy and not hearing reaction,

0:35:290:35:31

and that was from quite an early age.

0:35:310:35:33

SPANISH GUITAR MUSIC

0:35:330:35:37

His natural style was really based on mime.

0:35:520:35:56

You know, I mean the words sort of underpinned what he was miming,

0:35:560:35:59

and I think that's why he was a great favourite of musicians.

0:35:590:36:02

LAUGHTER

0:36:120:36:13

It was more slapstick than he usually did.

0:36:170:36:19

It was like he really, as it were, went for it, you know,

0:36:190:36:22

and it sort of developed into a total sort of slapstick.

0:36:220:36:25

Comedy, in the real sense of the word, is a little bit like music.

0:36:360:36:40

Someone said about music, "It expresses the inexpressible."

0:36:400:36:43

Comedy is the same,

0:36:430:36:44

to do with timing and pace, and just the moment.

0:36:440:36:47

You know, he could raise an eyebrow, do that just at the right moment,

0:36:470:36:51

which is what we try and do in music.

0:36:510:36:52

LAUGHTER

0:36:550:36:57

So I think underneath all, sort of, geniuses of his kind,

0:37:040:37:11

is a lot more complexity.

0:37:110:37:13

Just the awareness and sensitivity to other people.

0:37:130:37:16

He knows why...

0:37:160:37:17

I mean, the gentleness that comes across in his comedy,

0:37:170:37:20

you know, whether it is verbal or mimed, is an expression of that.

0:37:200:37:24

He was a very gentle man.

0:37:240:37:26

LAUGHTER

0:37:300:37:32

APPLAUSE

0:37:330:37:35

He was never jealous of anybody that was funny.

0:37:410:37:44

He would admire them, and he would say,

0:37:440:37:45

"He's funny, she's good, they're funny."

0:37:450:37:48

You know I've not been well, Eric. I...

0:37:480:37:51

I was coughing and sneezing and spluttering the other day,

0:37:510:37:53

and I went to the doctor's.

0:37:530:37:54

Flu?

0:37:540:37:55

No, I went on the bus.

0:37:550:37:57

The other greatness about him was,

0:37:580:38:01

he didn't need to be bang, bang, bang, the star up front.

0:38:010:38:04

When I got there, I said, "What's good for wind?" He gave me a kite.

0:38:040:38:07

LAUGHTER

0:38:070:38:09

On top of that...

0:38:090:38:10

After years of married bliss, the wife left me.

0:38:100:38:13

She ran off with the fella next door, and..

0:38:130:38:15

ooh, I do miss him.

0:38:150:38:17

He was a very modest man.

0:38:170:38:18

I mean, he never went out and said,

0:38:180:38:20

"I am the greatest thing since sliced bread," ever.

0:38:200:38:23

-CLAPS RHYTHMICALLY

-Eric Sykes!

0:38:230:38:24

-CLAPS

-Eric Sykes!

0:38:240:38:25

-CLAPS

-Eric Sykes! Cha-cha-cha!

0:38:250:38:28

Is there something going on between you two?

0:38:290:38:32

Eric was a man whose persona was vulnerable.

0:38:320:38:36

LAUGHTER

0:38:370:38:38

Eric was a gentleman.

0:38:390:38:41

He had a tremendous amount of integrity.

0:38:410:38:44

My dad was famous when I was young, but he wasn't just my dad,

0:38:450:38:50

he was Eric Sykes to the nation.

0:38:500:38:52

When we were younger, Dad would have an old cinefilm camera,

0:38:570:39:02

and he made films of us.

0:39:020:39:03

They were obviously comedy films,

0:39:030:39:04

they couldn't just be us at a picnic.

0:39:040:39:06

I will never forget,

0:39:070:39:09

there was one where I was dressed in my sister's ballerina costume.

0:39:090:39:14

He made me come out with my wand, and I did some sort of gesture,

0:39:140:39:20

and miraculously appears the other children, in a specific order.

0:39:200:39:24

And he loved doing that, and we loved watching it, actually,

0:39:260:39:29

because we'd go, "Wow, how did you do that?"

0:39:290:39:32

Eric had this idea one day about a film he wanted to make,

0:39:340:39:38

a silent film called The Plank...

0:39:380:39:40

..which he wrote, and he wanted to direct.

0:39:460:39:49

It was really unusual to do a silent film.

0:39:520:39:55

He loved belly laughs, with no dialogue.

0:40:030:40:06

He loved Laurel and Hardy. Stan and Ollie

0:40:100:40:12

were very, very Eric, weren't they?

0:40:120:40:15

HE SCREAMS

0:40:160:40:18

ERIC: I loved them because when they walked down the street,

0:40:180:40:21

'the sun was shining, they had a swagger about their gait,

0:40:210:40:25

'but you knew that they were doomed to failure.'

0:40:250:40:28

I think Eric really wanted to see

0:40:340:40:36

whether he could muster this particular part of comedy.

0:40:360:40:40

'A very simple idea, seeing two workman

0:40:470:40:50

'and a plank of wood'

0:40:500:40:52

and the adventures of getting it from A to B.

0:40:520:40:56

This time Sykes wasn't just in front of the camera.

0:40:560:40:59

Adding another string to his bow, he decided to take on a new role.

0:40:590:41:03

59, take one.

0:41:030:41:05

I don't think people realised what a good director he was.

0:41:050:41:09

They knew he was a good actor.

0:41:090:41:11

-Ryan. Can you get the three people just there?

-Yes.

0:41:110:41:15

'He knew exactly what he wanted from the shot

0:41:160:41:20

'and from you and he went on until he got it.'

0:41:200:41:23

-He looks right. I want to go with him like that.

-OK.

0:41:230:41:26

I'm going to see behind there's a load of traffic

0:41:260:41:28

-and I want to pull back now to see the plank blocking it.

-Mmm.

0:41:280:41:32

I know that surprised a lot of people

0:41:320:41:33

because you think of him as being a sort of jokey man

0:41:330:41:37

who doesn't care deeply, but he was exactly the opposite.

0:41:370:41:41

They're travelling, you see a bit of that thing travelling,

0:41:410:41:44

you know, and sort of, phwoar, look at that.

0:41:440:41:47

And then we come to that shot and we want to see what he's looking at.

0:41:470:41:51

He wasn't one of those shouty directors, he got on very well.

0:41:510:41:56

People liked Eric.

0:41:560:41:57

'Directing The Plank

0:41:570:41:58

'he got hold of everybody by the shoulders'

0:41:580:42:00

and told them what he wanted them to do and what he wanted them to look...

0:42:000:42:04

It was probably a much harder directing piece

0:42:040:42:06

than a film with a script.

0:42:060:42:08

He had a very organised mind.

0:42:100:42:13

He had a great comedic structure in his head

0:42:130:42:16

of how he wanted a thread of something to go through.

0:42:160:42:19

Can we have the plank in, Ryan, please?

0:42:190:42:21

May we have the plank, please?

0:42:210:42:23

'He didn't write anything down.

0:42:230:42:25

'It was all in his mind, it was visual.'

0:42:250:42:27

Spike said to me, you know, he edited on camera.

0:42:270:42:32

Do you want them travelling, or merely blocking?

0:42:320:42:35

No, all blocked. Static. And when they move over to here,

0:42:350:42:38

they'll all be leaning out the windows,

0:42:380:42:40

-oi, oi, the horns will be going beep, beep, beep.

-Fine. OK.

0:42:400:42:43

Everybody said, he's a bit different from a director,

0:42:430:42:46

because he used to invent with a camera,

0:42:460:42:48

he used to paint with a camera.

0:42:480:42:49

-Ryan.

-Yes?

0:42:490:42:51

That's fine. I want it to go a bit quicker

0:42:510:42:54

-and a bit...not too far in between.

-Right.

0:42:540:42:56

-And a bit quicker.

-More frequent.

0:42:560:42:58

It's intriguing that he just decided

0:42:580:43:00

I'm going to make this thing about a plank

0:43:000:43:02

and the places a plank of wood could take you.

0:43:020:43:05

It's a tricky thing to do.

0:43:050:43:07

DISTANT WHISTLING

0:43:070:43:09

ORGAN MUSIC PLAYS

0:43:180:43:20

Putting him together with Tommy Cooper was rather wonderful

0:43:270:43:31

because they are, you know, bewilderment doubled.

0:43:310:43:34

'It was them just carrying a plank.'

0:43:370:43:39

Why is that funny? It was their walk and their big feet.

0:43:390:43:42

-LAUGHS

-Hilarious.

0:43:420:43:44

Eric Sykes and Tommy Cooper, what a combination.

0:43:530:43:57

They were both maniacs,

0:43:570:43:59

they really were. They just bumped off each other.

0:43:590:44:02

They had respect for each other's talent

0:44:060:44:09

and Tommy was quite prepared to put himself in the hands of Eric.

0:44:090:44:14

Oh, look.

0:44:210:44:23

It's OK. I'm all right.

0:44:230:44:25

I'm all right. Don't worry.

0:44:250:44:27

THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER

0:44:270:44:30

Tommy Cooper was fun and naughty

0:44:300:44:34

and you never knew what he was going to do next.

0:44:340:44:37

So he was the opposite to Eric.

0:44:370:44:39

-What are you doing? I'm all right.

-Relax. You're all right now.

0:44:390:44:42

There's nothing wrong with me. I'm all right.

0:44:420:44:44

Here, drink that, then.

0:44:490:44:51

Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.

0:44:510:44:53

'They would talk at various points, "You come here", "I'll go there",'

0:44:530:44:58

so it wasn't really a silent film, but it didn't spoil the jokes.

0:44:580:45:02

One, two and yippee.

0:45:070:45:10

For some reason, that little movie,

0:45:120:45:14

everybody's seen it. You remember it.

0:45:140:45:17

CHEERING

0:45:220:45:24

FANFARE

0:45:260:45:27

'I think it was quite an argument in his mind'

0:45:270:45:31

whether he ought to give up performing and go directing

0:45:310:45:36

because he loved it, but I think he had always been a performer.

0:45:360:45:42

His true first love was the theatre,

0:45:420:45:45

because he loved that audience reaction.

0:45:450:45:48

But his biggest theatre hit,

0:45:500:45:52

acting alongside Jimmy Edwards, had an unpromising start.

0:45:520:45:58

Big Bad Mouse, when it first started,

0:45:580:46:00

it wasn't very well received by the critics

0:46:000:46:04

and in fact, I think it was on its last legs, it was due to come off.

0:46:040:46:07

'Every night they died a death.'

0:46:070:46:09

Jimmy Edwards came into Eric's dressing room and said,

0:46:090:46:13

"Well, it's the last night, I'm going to have a laugh."

0:46:130:46:16

Eric said, "Well, if you are, I am," and that was the birth of the show.

0:46:160:46:22

APPLAUSE

0:46:220:46:24

They more or less threw the script away and ad-libbed through it.

0:46:290:46:32

And the audiences in Big Bad Mouse

0:46:320:46:34

just loved it because, I don't think in those days

0:46:340:46:39

that people had ever improvised on stage.

0:46:390:46:43

So you see, Mr Watkins?

0:46:430:46:45

-Yes, I...

-You take the facts and the figures...

0:46:450:46:47

'They used to have, sort of little contests'

0:46:480:46:51

and Jimmy would go off to the pub, get a pint,

0:46:510:46:55

so Eric would have to, sort of, hold court.

0:46:550:46:58

LAUGHTER

0:46:580:46:59

Never mind, let's have some fun.

0:47:020:47:05

Abide with me.

0:47:050:47:07

LAUGHTER

0:47:070:47:09

And it was all included, you know, for the audience.

0:47:090:47:12

I mean, they were in heaven, because, you know,

0:47:120:47:15

Eric would say, "Well, where have you been?"

0:47:150:47:17

He said, "Well, I've just been for a pint."

0:47:170:47:20

So it was all very sort of honest.

0:47:200:47:21

You'd think in the West End

0:47:210:47:23

they'd give you the real thing, wouldn't you, eh?

0:47:230:47:25

The real thing. It's only coloured water.

0:47:250:47:28

At least they did give me a real cigar.

0:47:280:47:30

I wish they'd give me a real actor.

0:47:300:47:33

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:47:330:47:34

He loved going through the fourth wall, grabbing an audience.

0:47:360:47:39

Come in!

0:47:390:47:40

BANGING ON DOOR

0:47:400:47:41

How many of you spotted the deliberate mistake?

0:47:440:47:48

Eric was a dangerous performer. He took chances.

0:47:480:47:51

LAUGHTER

0:47:510:47:53

'He would do things with a door, or with a window, or with a prop'

0:47:570:48:04

and people would laugh because of it.

0:48:040:48:06

Ha!

0:48:060:48:07

APPLAUSE

0:48:070:48:09

And to work with Eric you were never quite sure

0:48:090:48:13

how he was going to behave in that particular situation in a play.

0:48:130:48:18

It was mad, wonderful, glorious mayhem.

0:48:220:48:27

It was an enormous success, Big Bad Mouse,

0:48:270:48:30

it went all the way round the world. Australia, America, Canada.

0:48:300:48:34

'They loved it.'

0:48:340:48:35

And it was the audience. You see, Eric loved the audience.

0:48:350:48:38

Skyes's love for the theatre never faded

0:48:380:48:41

and he would remain a huge draw for audiences throughout his life.

0:48:410:48:44

'I was very fortunate to do a season at the Vaudeville'

0:48:440:48:47

on the Strand in Ray Cooney's Caught In The Net, a farce.

0:48:470:48:51

I seem to remember Eric didn't appear in anything in the first act

0:48:510:48:55

and we were sitting and saying, "Well, yes, it's very nice,

0:48:550:48:58

"but when is his nibs coming on?"

0:48:580:49:01

As soon as he entered onto the stage, uproar.

0:49:010:49:03

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:49:030:49:06

But his acting career took a dramatic turn

0:49:100:49:12

when Sykes was approached

0:49:120:49:14

by renowned theatre director, Sir Peter Hall.

0:49:140:49:17

'Peter Hall was doing a Moliere comedy'

0:49:170:49:20

and he explained to me that Moliere was a great vaudevillian

0:49:200:49:23

and I said, "Oh, one of my heroes I work with often is Eric Sykes,

0:49:230:49:28

"is there anything in it for him?"

0:49:280:49:29

But when Sykes first heard about the idea,

0:49:290:49:32

he felt it could be a step too far.

0:49:320:49:34

Peter rang and asked Eric would he like to go to lunch.

0:49:340:49:38

Eric was getting further and further down in his chair,

0:49:380:49:40

thinking, "Oh, I don't want to do this," you know.

0:49:400:49:43

And he loved Peter Hall so he didn't want to say no to him,

0:49:430:49:46

so he was in this terrible position.

0:49:460:49:48

And before he could say anything,

0:49:480:49:51

Peter Hall put his hand up, right in front of Eric's face,

0:49:510:49:55

and he said, "Don't tell me you can't do it,

0:49:550:49:58

"because I know you can."

0:49:580:49:59

Monsieur seems in pretty dire distress.

0:49:590:50:02

I just can't cope with these mad moods of his.

0:50:020:50:05

Monsieur? That must be what it is that's got his goat.

0:50:060:50:11

He's jealous.

0:50:110:50:12

By now Sykes was in his mid-70s,

0:50:120:50:14

partially sighted and deaf, but he hadn't let this stand in his way.

0:50:140:50:21

He'd got this wonderful invention called hearing glasses.

0:50:210:50:24

Without any lenses, but they had hearing aids in the back

0:50:240:50:27

so he could hear via the bone behind the ear.

0:50:270:50:30

The fun was that he could hear people behind him as well.

0:50:300:50:34

He said, "Listen to what they're saying over there."

0:50:340:50:36

They were fantastic for him,

0:50:360:50:38

because it was a new lease of life, really.

0:50:380:50:40

He came on and I thought, "Oh, please, God,

0:50:400:50:43

"let him not knock into the furniture."

0:50:430:50:44

-Why, though?

-Why?

0:50:440:50:47

Because he is.

0:50:510:50:52

This was a huge thing

0:50:520:50:54

and I don't really think I saw him,

0:50:540:50:56

I think I was just too worried for the first ten minutes

0:50:560:50:59

about, "Is he going to be all right?" or, "What...?" and of course he was.

0:50:590:51:03

When Eric Sykes walked on,

0:51:030:51:05

you felt they were going to stand and applaud.

0:51:050:51:08

And you could hear, you could see them all,

0:51:080:51:10

"Oh, here he is, wait, wait until you see him, wait."

0:51:100:51:13

It was... He filled the theatre with love.

0:51:130:51:20

I thought he could do anything.

0:51:200:51:21

I thought he could play Hamlet if he wanted to.

0:51:210:51:24

I was astounded,

0:51:240:51:25

A, he could be on the West End, say these words,

0:51:250:51:28

see where he was going,

0:51:280:51:30

hear what was going on at his age, and he still brought the house down.

0:51:300:51:33

He loved the challenge.

0:51:330:51:35

It became a zonking great hit.

0:51:350:51:38

Yet another surprise lay in store for Sykes,

0:51:420:51:45

as in the audience one night was Hollywood royalty.

0:51:450:51:49

Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise went to see it

0:51:490:51:52

and phoned the office the next day and said,

0:51:520:51:55

"How do we get in touch with this man,

0:51:550:51:57

"this wonderful, wonderful man?"

0:51:570:52:00

And that's how his film appearance in The Others came about.

0:52:000:52:03

That's right, it's a gardener.

0:52:050:52:07

Eric himself was a very easy-going person, really enthusiastic.

0:52:070:52:11

The day he had to act he was almost like a child,

0:52:110:52:15

really enjoying the process, never complaining,

0:52:150:52:19

this was a guy who enjoyed acting.

0:52:190:52:21

All right, we're very honest and very hard working.

0:52:210:52:26

And the fact that he was British

0:52:260:52:28

and so well-known in Britain was something we believed

0:52:280:52:31

could be important for the movie.

0:52:310:52:33

Why should somebody want to take all the curtains?

0:52:330:52:36

For Eric to move from where Eric was

0:52:360:52:37

into a dramatic role that seemed like a very good fit,

0:52:370:52:41

he could take a right at the traffic lights and he was there.

0:52:410:52:44

His character was supposed to be absent-minded,

0:52:440:52:46

but he, of course, knows what's going on

0:52:460:52:49

and so we played with that idea.

0:52:490:52:53

Oh, don't worry, the fog won't let her get very far.

0:52:530:52:56

Oh, yes, the fog.

0:52:560:52:58

He went over to Spain to film the part.

0:52:580:53:03

A, he was overawed by the size of the Winnebago he had

0:53:030:53:06

because in his day, he never had that sort of help.

0:53:060:53:11

Eric, you should be this side.

0:53:110:53:13

Always, that's it. And Finuala in the middle.

0:53:130:53:16

'He spoke a bit of Spanish,

0:53:160:53:17

'so the crew enjoyed him coming on and saying, "Hello," and "How are you?"

0:53:170:53:21

'One of the things that I didn't know at that time

0:53:210:53:24

'was that he was almost deaf and blind.

0:53:240:53:27

'One day he showed me the glasses with no glass.

0:53:270:53:30

'We had this scene in which he had to'

0:53:300:53:32

walk through the forest in the middle of the night

0:53:320:53:35

and on top of that we were putting in some fog.

0:53:350:53:38

'Of course, when he acted, he had to take off his glasses,

0:53:380:53:42

'so at that moment he couldn't hear,

0:53:420:53:44

'so I thought, "How are we going to do this shot?"'

0:53:440:53:46

The truth is I don't know how he did it,

0:53:460:53:48

but when you see the shot, you'd never believe

0:53:480:53:50

that this is a man who is almost not seeing,

0:53:500:53:53

not hearing anything.

0:53:530:53:54

Sadly, a few months after the film came out,

0:53:540:53:58

Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise separated

0:53:580:54:02

and it was in the news and I said to Dad,

0:54:020:54:06

I said, "Did you hear on the news today

0:54:060:54:08

"that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman have separated?"

0:54:080:54:11

And I said, "Is it anything to do with you?"

0:54:110:54:14

And he said, "I can't help being attractive to women."

0:54:140:54:18

And for his next move,

0:54:230:54:25

Sykes would become part of a worldwide phenomenon.

0:54:250:54:28

'It was just a telephone call,'

0:54:300:54:32

so I went in and said, "Would you like to do a Harry Potter?"

0:54:320:54:35

He said, "Have I got time?" There was a little banter,

0:54:350:54:38

and I said, "Eric, this is for real."

0:54:380:54:40

Somebody said, "What about Eric?"

0:54:400:54:42

and I thought, "Well, that would be wonderful,"

0:54:420:54:44

I would get to work with this man who is legendary.

0:54:440:54:47

It was right at the beginning,

0:54:470:54:48

so you wanted people to kind of sit up and take notice.

0:54:480:54:52

He rehearsed a lot.

0:54:530:54:55

You could see that what he'd said to himself,

0:54:550:54:58

he kind of mapped it out.

0:54:580:54:59

The whole thing was very specifically, precisely constructed.

0:54:590:55:03

It wasn't a personality performance,

0:55:030:55:05

although he had a very strong personality, but it was delicate.

0:55:050:55:08

Bloody kids.

0:55:080:55:10

I think in the end probably what I was watching

0:55:130:55:15

was a lifetime's work.

0:55:150:55:16

It was just lovely having Eric Sykes around

0:55:190:55:23

and I think that's what he did to the audience,

0:55:230:55:26

he was nice to have around.

0:55:260:55:28

We could do it without the boy.

0:55:280:55:29

No! The boy is everything. It cannot be done without him.

0:55:290:55:34

I'm very glad to have worked with Eric Sykes.

0:55:340:55:36

I'm really glad to have done it.

0:55:360:55:38

Stand aside or I'll tell

0:55:380:55:40

so I can give our guest a proper greeting.

0:55:400:55:43

Abracadabra!

0:55:430:55:45

I think the most Dad enjoyed about Harry Potter

0:55:480:55:50

was the fact his grandchildren were so thrilled

0:55:500:55:53

that they saw a film that he was in

0:55:530:55:54

because they'd read these books

0:55:540:55:57

and they were just so proud of their grandad

0:55:570:55:59

and we were so proud as a family.

0:55:590:56:01

And one person had remained a constant presence

0:56:050:56:08

through all those years.

0:56:080:56:09

ERIC: 'When I went back through my life,

0:56:090:56:12

'I put through all the miracles

0:56:120:56:14

'and all the things that had happened to me that I had accepted,

0:56:140:56:19

'I realised that it wasn't just me doing it,

0:56:190:56:21

'it was my mother guiding me.'

0:56:210:56:22

'I worked it out for him...'

0:56:260:56:29

..that she didn't die in childbirth.

0:56:300:56:33

In fact, she died three weeks after Eric was born,

0:56:330:56:39

And I told him

0:56:400:56:42

and I thought it was just so touching.

0:56:420:56:46

He said, "So she did hold me."

0:56:460:56:49

'Every artist has got their own magic'

0:56:560:56:59

and his was magic that lasted for 60 years

0:56:590:57:03

no matter what he did, direct, act.

0:57:030:57:05

The only thing he didn't try was singing.

0:57:050:57:07

Thank God. He'd probably have been good at that as well.

0:57:070:57:11

It's my wrist.

0:57:110:57:12

Well, why have you taken your trousers off?

0:57:140:57:17

He loved everybody and everybody loved him.

0:57:170:57:19

Oh, Eric!

0:57:210:57:24

Eric's light was a lone genius in our time.

0:57:240:57:28

'He had this timeless quality'

0:57:310:57:33

and I think it can, you know, people can watch it again and again,

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it will be around forever.

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