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Eric Sykes was a unique talent in the world of British comedy. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
He was one of the very few people I have ever worked with | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
who I would honestly say had a touch of genius. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:17 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
What did you do that for? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
It was looking at me. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
People who could make US laugh were our, kind of, role models. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
Eric was one of those. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
We all used to say | 0:00:29 | 0:00:30 | |
if we didn't laugh 18 hours, maybe we'd had a bad day. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
-Can I get going now? -Oh, bread. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
Anyone could tune in and believe in this person | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
and say, "Where is this person going to take me?" | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Oh, I dropped it. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
He was a terrific, naturalistic actor. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:49 | |
I think Eric Sykes was the perfect common man. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
If you don't mind, we'll... | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
It wasn't necessarily all belly laughs, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
you'd just go, "Oh, you're mad, you're brilliant, I love you." | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
Hello, viewers. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
NEWSREADER: 'The actor and comedian Eric Sykes has died | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
'after a short illness at the age of 89. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
'For half a century, his career spanned stage, film and television.' | 0:01:27 | 0:01:33 | |
For 50 years, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
Eric Sykes worked at his office in Orme Court, West London. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
It was here that he created and wrote iconic comedy shows | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
and worked alongside some of the greatest names | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
in the world of entertainment. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
Sykes was in here, on the left, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
and Ray Galton and Alan Simpson were in here. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
And this is Eric's office. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:54 | |
This is Tommy's fez. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
They were very friendly, Tommy and Eric. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
We've had our ups and downs. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
Well, you have to on a ship, sir. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:02:06 | 0:02:07 | |
Eric's favourite of all time, Laurel and Hardy. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
This is his desk. Eric wrote for Frankie Howerd. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
'You've got no idea. You have no idea. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
'Well you can't have, I haven't told you yet.' | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
And that's a lovely picture of Hattie and Eric. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
-Hello, Hat. -Cooee! | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
CUCKOO CLOCK | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
Hello, clock. LAUGHTER | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
He'd love a cigar, but he kept the boxes, so he could go and open them | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
and have a smell every now and again because he couldn't smoke any more. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
When he was ill, | 0:02:45 | 0:02:46 | |
probably about three or four days before he died, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
he said, "You know what I'd really like more than anything | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
"is just to come back to Orme Court just one more time." | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
This is the photograph of his mother | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
and his desk was positioned right in a line with her. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
He loved the fact that she was there with him all the time. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
Born in Oldham in 1923, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
the beginning of Sykes's life was marked by tragedy. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
His mother died giving birth to him, | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
an event that would come to shape the rest of his life. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
ERIC: Nobody ever really talked about my mother. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
She was a bit of a taboo subject at home. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Was there a sense in which you were blamed or felt guilty? | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
In a way, yes. In a way. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
And there were times when I felt almost like a lodger in my own house. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
He was absolutely certain that she both guided him | 0:03:49 | 0:03:56 | |
and guarded him, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
and he always said she was looking after him. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
In 1941, Sykes left Oldham to join the forces. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
It was here that he would meet Leading Aircraftman Denis Norden | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and take his first step into the world of entertainment. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
We were both training to be wireless operators | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
and, in fact, for the rest of our days | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
whenever we met, we would address each other in Morse code. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
It was decided that what the troops needed at that point - | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
it was about six weeks after D-Day - was some entertainment. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:34 | |
When the war finished, Bill Fraser, you know THE Bill Fraser, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
Bill Fraser and Snudge, marvellous man, formed a concert party | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
which was written by Ron Rich, who is now a vicar, and Denis Norden. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:45 | |
And I don't know what happened to Denis but... | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
I remember the first person to audition | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
was an RAF regiment sergeant who chewed razor blades as his offering. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:58 | |
Then second, up comes Eric, who, actually, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:03 | |
as his audition piece did a drunk act. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
Not very well, it wasn't his native kind of comedy. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Despite this shaky start, Sykes had passed the audition | 0:05:11 | 0:05:15 | |
and joined the revue. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:17 | |
Eric didn't look like a comedian. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:19 | |
He had a diffident way of expressing himself, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
he didn't come on with the big personality thing | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
like most of the comedians of the variety school did in those days, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
and it was evident then that Eric was pure gold. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:35 | |
At the end of the war, Sykes was demobbed and returned to Oldham. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
It was here that he would receive a phone call | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
that would change his life. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
'He may titter, titter he may.' | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
Well, the pinnacle just after the war was Variety Bandbox | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
and Frankie Howerd became the pulse of Variety Bandbox. | 0:05:52 | 0:06:00 | |
Well, at that time, Frankie Howerd was the biggest thing | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
on radio and asked if Eric would write for him. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
FRANKIE: In Variety Bandbox, | 0:06:08 | 0:06:09 | |
one of the most amusing things I think I did, | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
and I can say that because I didn't write it, was a piece where | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
I was a messenger boy having to take two elephants to Crewe | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
and, you know, it was all so stupid | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
but Eric Sykes wrote this, and he was a brilliant writer, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
and he wrote these extraordinary stories for me. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
'I went along to the depot and I saw the porter and I said, "Look, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
"I'll sign for these goods," and he said, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
'"Good, they're labelled and ready, get them out of here quick." | 0:06:31 | 0:06:35 | |
'So I signed for them and went along. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
'They were labelled and ready all right. Two elephants. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
'Two ele-phants.' | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
SCREECHES: I was amazed! | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
It took what is now called "stand up" | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
in an entirely different direction as well. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
A long narrative instead of a series of one-liners. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:01 | |
'I said, "How do I get these to Crewe?" He said, "I don't care where you get them to, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
"but get them out of here." He said, "The place has been in uproar, | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
"in uproar the place has been." | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
I think writing for another comedian must be very, very difficult | 0:07:11 | 0:07:16 | |
and to write for an eccentric character like Frankie Howerd, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
it must have been quite tricky. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
What a master of language | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
and what a master of comic concepts Eric Sykes was. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
He always said it was Frankie Howerd who gave him his biggest break. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:35 | |
By the 1950s, Sykes was one of the highest-paid scriptwriters | 0:07:35 | 0:07:40 | |
in the country, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
pulling in audiences of 15 million on hit shows like Educating Archie. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Impressed by a programme he'd heard on the radio, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Sykes now teamed up with fellow writer Spike Milligan | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
and together they had an idea for a company to nurture new talent. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
Joined by writers Ray Galton and Alan Simpson, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
Associated London Scripts was born, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
with their first office above a greengrocer's in Shepherd's Bush. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
The four of them had got this idea about a place | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
where new writers could come, and they all have their own careers, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:13 | |
obviously, so they were writing away and I did everything else. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Other people came. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Johnny Speight came and, of course, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
he went on to write the famous Till Death Us Do Part. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Terry Nation came, he created the Daleks. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
I would go to Eric's office and as I'd open the door to go in, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
Spike Milligan would come out. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
'Hallo!' | 0:08:34 | 0:08:35 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
As I'd turn round to see Spike going down the stairs, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
Tony Hancock would be coming up. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
'You can testify as to my complete innocence in this. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
'Tell him how I would hoodwinked by the fast-talking Sydney James.' | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Frankie Howerd's work came out of there, and Galton and Simpson. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
Is there anybody there? | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Can you hear me? | 0:08:56 | 0:08:57 | |
Everybody was up there. If we were going out for the evening, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
Me and Tommy Cooper would always meet at Orme Court | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
and it was a great place, great fun. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
We became known as the Fun Factory. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Well, I first came here as a personal assistant to Spike Milligan. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
-How are you? -All right, how are you? -We carry on as normal, do we? | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
-Nice to see you. -We're just good friends, obviously, | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
we just happen to share the same bed, that's all. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
I came into this building and there was literally Eric Sykes. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
My first impression was this whiff of cigar smoke | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
coming in and then it was Eric. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
And I remember him, oh, about two or three days later, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
saying, "Well, who are you?" | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
And I said, "I've come as Spike's PA." He said, "Oh, | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
"good luck to you then, darling." | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
They were always doing really ridiculous things together. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
I mean Spike and Eric | 0:09:49 | 0:09:50 | |
wouldn't talk to each other. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
They would phone each other and they'd be in the same room. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
Silly games, but relieved their tension when they were writing, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
anything to stave off the day when you went to the typewriter. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:05 | |
But out of this fun and this mayhem, really, came this wonderful work. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:12 | |
# Over the hills and... # | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:14 | 0:10:15 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Well, Eric and Spike were friends because they were both geniuses, in their own way. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
One, two, hup. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
They always had good ideas. They used to argue. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
One said one thing, he'd say the opposite, and they got on very well. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
I mean, they almost got sort of like husband and wife really, you know. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
They got on. If they had a row and they'd never remember it the next day when they came in. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Dad absolutely understood Spike. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
I'm not sure Spike absolutely understood Dad | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
because he didn't need to. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
I think Spike was the one that Dad really nurtured. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
If you said anything against Spike, Eric would be in there like a flash. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
You know, "Well, he's done this and he's done that." | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
They had an office at the end of a corridor and Spike would get | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
out of his room to walk across the corridor to come into Dad's office. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
"I've written this joke, what do you think?" | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Dad would go, "Give me a minute. I'll come and I'll tell you about it. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
"Go back to your office." Spike would go back to his office and Dad would read the joke, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
and go, "OK," come out of his office, walk down the corridor, go into Spike's office, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
"It's all right," and walk back. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
I mean, they would do comedy inadvertently | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
and they would enjoy it and they loved each other's humour. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
What is a jail break? | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
Answer - a BRAKE used for stopping jails. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
Their admiration for each other's comedy would come into its own | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
with the writing of the Goon Show. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
'This is the story of a desperate man in prison. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
'Yes, it is I. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
'I was the Governor.' | 0:12:11 | 0:12:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
Spike, sadly, had these fits of depression which seemed to me | 0:12:13 | 0:12:19 | |
over the years to get stronger, and he would sometimes | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
be in the office for two days, you know, not come out. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
When Spike wasn't feeling very well, he asked Dad to help create | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
some of the Goons and, seamlessly, he took over | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
the writing of some of them. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
'The BBC would like to caution parents - | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
'this programme is unsuitable for the very young, the very old, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:45 | |
'the middle- aged, those just going off, those on the turn.' | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
To come here and actually write like Spike and in the spirit of Spike, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
I think that must be really, really difficult. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
'Why is that tiger wearing brown boots? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
'Because his black ones are at the mender's.' | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
-'What I mean is, why does a tiger wear boots? -Well, it's lucky. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
-'Why? -Well, what other tiger has got two pairs of boots to wear?' | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Eric must have understood Spike | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
and Spike must have appreciated Eric, and I think | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
that's a most interesting relationship. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Eric had a row with Spike in the Goon Show. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
They argued for about an hour about one word. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
And it got quite heated and Spike threw a paperweight at Eric. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
And after that, Eric said, "I'm not going to work with him ever again." | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
But they had a lifelong friendship which, you know, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:39 | |
very, very rare in this business. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
It was the end of an era for Associated London Scripts | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
when, in 1967, they were approached for a takeover. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
This would split the company in two. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
Spike said, "I don't want to go," | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
and then Eric came in and he said, "Isn't Spike going?" | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
I said, "He doesn't want to go, I don't know." | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
He said, "Well, if he doesn't want to go, I'll stay with him. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
I mean, it was as simple as that. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:02 | |
So, in a way, it kind of, one might say, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
broke up the family that we'd originally had. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Eric took it personally | 0:14:07 | 0:14:11 | |
and thought that they perhaps... they were deserting him. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:16 | |
They weren't deserting him, he chose not to go. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
But the break up of Associated London Scripts didn't mean | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
that Sykes let up in his writing. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
This is Eric Sykes' quote. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
"When you're a writer, you are a writer 24 hours a day. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
"You wake up in the morning and the first thing you think was, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
"'That sketch didn't work very well last night, I'll have to re-write it.'" | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
I've got a feeling this whole operation is coming apart. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
What do you mean, sir? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
What do I mean? | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:45 | 0:14:46 | |
I'll get it fixed. I'll get it fixed. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
OK. Bosun, bosun! Take the wheel. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
All right, then. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
The pressure on him to write a script, | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
as any single scriptwriter would know, is quite tough | 0:15:00 | 0:15:04 | |
year in, year out, to produce such a high standard. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
You joined up for hostilities only, or are you regular? | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
Regular, sir. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
After breakfast every morning. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:15 | |
It's tiring, it's a lot of pressure, and I just admire him so much | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
for his work ethic and what he put in and how many series he did. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
Which part of the work do you prefer? Writing or performing? | 0:15:25 | 0:15:28 | |
Performing. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
-Performing. -Yes. -Writing, oh, that's a drag, that, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
when you sit there in front of a blank sheet of paper. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
It's great when you've done it. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
It's like, you know, like you've just given birth. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
But when you're writing it's terrible, | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
it's the longest thing in the world, you know? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
Mmm. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
Mind if I come aboard? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Would you like to come in, Mr Brown? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Well, I was coming alongside and the wind veered, so I started to tack. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Ah, he tacked. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
Tacked. He's left me with nothing. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
Wasn't that the right line? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
Oh, well, try again. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
What was the right line? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
Tacked in. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
You can tell the joy of being in front of an audience, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
and how much it's him and he wants it, | 0:16:20 | 0:16:22 | |
but when things go wrong I can just see, and I know it myself, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
that slight body language of, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
"We haven't given the audience the perfect..." | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
Such was his honour to that, to the audience and to his craft. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
You know your line, "You'll be in soon"? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I thought, "Not at the rate they're going, I won't." | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
Was it tacked in? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
If you like. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
Shall we do it all again? | 0:16:47 | 0:16:48 | |
He knew exactly what he wanted. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
He was a complete perfectionist, and if it didn't work, | 0:16:52 | 0:16:59 | |
he would spent five, six, seven hours making it work. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
More than once when I was actually in his office, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
I would see him writing at the desk, and he'd stop and he'd look up, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:19 | |
and it wasn't a big deal, but he once in a while said something like, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
you know, he'd be writing something and he'd say, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
"My mother would have liked this." | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
He always, always, always said she was looking after him. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
He used to get a shudder, and I actually once or twice saw it. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
-ERIC: -You know the feeling you get | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
when you say, "Somebody has walked over my grave? | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
I used to get that feeling, | 0:17:43 | 0:17:45 | |
and then not long after that, I would write something good. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
Do you still get it? | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
Oh, yes. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
Oh, yes, and when I'm in a bit of trouble sometimes, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
or a bit down, you know, I've only got to think of my mother, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
and it's a sort of a... I get the same feeling. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
On 29th January 1960, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
Sykes burst onto our screens with a brand new series. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
It became one of the BBC's biggest hits, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
and would make him a household name. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Good afternoon, everybody. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:14 | |
On behalf of driver Sykes and his crew, | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
we welcome you aboard Routemaster 136. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
There will be no smoking on the lower decks. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
We will be travelling at about nine miles per hour, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
and our ETA is 10 past 11, our time. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:33 | |
We trust you will all have a pleasant journey. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
The weather in Cuffs Hill is fine. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
Bonjour, mesdames et messieurs. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
Bienvenue maitre d'... | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
RINGS BELL | 0:18:47 | 0:18:48 | |
Give me a chance to ding. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
If you talk about Eric Sykes, | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
you immediately go, Sykes or Sykes in a hat, or... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
I mean...which was a legendary set. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
I put it to Eric that the BBC could certainly do with him | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
in a series in which he was the prominent one. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:18 | |
By George, quick! | 0:19:18 | 0:19:19 | |
What is it? | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
Well, of all the low-down, cunning tricks. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
What's the matter? | 0:19:22 | 0:19:23 | |
He's got a telescope at the window. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Johnny Speight came up with a script | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
that paired Eric and Hattie Jacques as a married couple. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:35 | |
Eric suggested to Johnny that he and Hattie be brother and sister. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:43 | |
More than that, twins. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
And more than that, identical twins. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-Look at that, you and me as children. -Yes. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
Look at those pigtails. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
Yes. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:54 | |
And look at mine. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:55 | |
Eric wasn't your run-of-the-mill comedian, | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
because he had that slightly melancholy air about him, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:06 | |
which one didn't in those days associate with the very outgoing, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:11 | |
extrovert, exuberant comedians of those days. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
He really was swimming against that tide. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:19 | 0:20:23 | |
CUCKOO CLOCK SPLUTTERS | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
It was rather a bewildered character that he played, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and, "Oh, what's going on here?" | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
And that appealed to me, cos I thought it was just gentler. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
I'm not getting any younger. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
Neither am I, we're twins, remember? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:42 | 0:20:43 | |
Well, I think it's time we thought about getting married. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
It's illegal, isn't it? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
The series was two misfits trying to cope with the world, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
and that's sort of what we all feel, isn't it? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Um... | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
But he did it in such a brilliant way | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
that it wasn't sort of too... you know, | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
too pitying or too sad or too self-effacing, | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
he generally just made us laugh. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
If I'd known, I would have stayed in the Navy. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
You were never in the Navy. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Don't keep changing the subject. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
That's what is so clever, though, about those... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
the world that he created, is that you just sort of went with it, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
you just believed it. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:26 | |
It was based on enough truth, however heightened the comedy was. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
Well, I thought they were real. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
That's what I think about Eric Sykes and Hattie Jacques, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
they felt very real. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
He's doing comedy about people in situations, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
and someone very much like him. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
You know that one, three down, five letters, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
brother and sister born at the same time? | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
That was "twins." | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
I put that in. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
No, you put "twits." | 0:21:53 | 0:21:54 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
The whole idea of Sykes was that here was just | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
what appeared to be an ordinary man. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:01 | |
It wasn't a sort of big showbiz extravaganza, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
it wasn't anybody with an enormous, sort of, ego and personality | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
seeking to dominate anybody else. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-Here, old boy! -DOG BARKS | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
SMASH! | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:22:21 | 0:22:22 | |
The audience understood him. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
They knew who he was, what he was, what was the character. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
They felt he had a certain amount of pathos | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
about some of his performance. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
They're rounding up all the men in the street. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
I don't know why they want you. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
Comedy can be very broad or wide, or, you know, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:46 | |
just going for a laugh, or, "Here comes the laugh," | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
whereas Eric Sykes had a quality that was very rooted in reality. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:53 | |
If she was anything of a looker, she wouldn't have to advertise. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Oh, he's got a telephone. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:57 | |
748 2269. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:23:00 | 0:23:01 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
748 2269. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
I've always found it very appealing | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
that you can have a writer or writers | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
who will take one little idea and then build around it. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
What are you looking for, dear? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:18 | |
The key. I put it down here. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
But the rubbish..! | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
With that rubbish. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
I put it in the boiler! | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
In the boiler?! That's our freedom in that boiler. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
You're trying to set up a load of things | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
where two people are handcuffed together, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
what problems they can get into. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
I think what made it real as well is they underplayed it an awful lot. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
That one. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
Put it there. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:44 | |
There we are. OK? | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
Yeah, get a knife and fork... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
The writing was so good, but you don't overplay it, you don't panic, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
it's a question of living with this, and it's just sort of, um... | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
-Yes, he... -And "OK," and all that, but so underplayed. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Right, come on now. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
There we are. Good? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
Oh, yes, that's a good idea. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
Now look, I'll cut it, that's right, there we are. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
Ahh... | 0:24:11 | 0:24:12 | |
You just get two people who are comedic people, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
and if they are good and they like each other, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
the chemistry between people like that, you can't beat, | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
it is perfection. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
That's the one. Ha-ha-ha-ha... | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Actually, I'm not really hungry. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
Sykes first met Hattie Jacques when he'd seen her perform in 1948, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
and went on to write for her in Educating Archie. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Their relationship would form the heart | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
of the long-running Sykes series. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Eric knew Hattie, and he was desperately fond of her. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
A Spanish number, Hay Un Jardin Con La Fuente Pequena. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
It's always been vetted. | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
PLAYS SPANISH TUNE | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
HATTIE CLAPS | 0:25:00 | 0:25:01 | |
I hadn't finished yet. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:02 | |
Eric and Hattie were great friends off screen. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
They got on really, really well, | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
and so I think working together was rather obvious. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:18 | |
Before he went, he made a very nice gesture. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
How much? | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
'We were like a family. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
'Hat was really like my sister, or my identical twin, as we had it.' | 0:25:29 | 0:25:35 | |
When we finished the series, I would go away and do other things, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
and Hat would do some of the Carry On films, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
so when we met again, it was like coming home, it was... | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
oh, it was lovely. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
-Man goes to cupboard. -Yes. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
Gets large piece of equipment. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
How do you spell that? | 0:25:52 | 0:25:53 | |
M-A-N. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Between Eric and Hattie, there was also great loyalty. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
They used to defend each other. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
They didn't... Hattie certainly didn't kowtow to Eric. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:06 | |
Oh, no, she would tell Eric if... not in any nasty way, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
she would tell Eric if she thought something in the script | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
wasn't right or wasn't working. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
Hey! | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
Eric said, when he was writing, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
before she even turned the page, she knew what he had written. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
TAPPING | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
He's playing golf with a hard boiled egg. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
They were so used to each other, and they knew how each other worked, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
and they just sort of would take a scene to another level. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
That double act had to be extraordinary | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
to sustain over many series. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
I think it's an octopus. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
I just loved them, and totally believed them as brother and sister. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
HE HUMS A TUNE | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
And now... | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
..they left Scapa Flow at dawn. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
He would go for extreme real, like the toe stuck in the bath. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:19 | |
It's where you should go | 0:27:19 | 0:27:20 | |
if you're trying to play for the drama within a scene. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:22 | |
You just keep expanding it until it can go to this place. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
RINGS BELL | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
What is it now? | 0:27:27 | 0:27:28 | |
Can you get Mr Brown? | 0:27:30 | 0:27:31 | |
Oh, not again. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Yes, my toe. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:35 | |
Well, I don't like to ask him. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Are you sure your toe's stuck in the tap? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
Well, of course I'm sure it's stuck in the tap. I'm sitting here facing it. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
And it's right there. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:46 | |
Come on, Hattie, go on, the water's getting cold. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Well, pour some more hot in. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
It's stuck up the hot water tap. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Eric just was doing things that you would see your father do, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
or somebody get wrong at the garage, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
get a finger stuck or something like that. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
It was the delight in the everyday traps, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
pitfalls to which someone can fall. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
Ow! | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
The pain! | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
I shall never be able to dance again. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
We just wanted him to win. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
We wanted his world to get better, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
but yet we totally empathised with his foolishness. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
So it's that combination, I think. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
Try and flush it out. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:25 | |
Yes, that's quite a good idea. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:27 | |
Righto. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
Oh! Sykes, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:30 | |
-you knew that was going to happen, didn't you? -No... -Yet you let... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
RINGS BELL | 0:28:35 | 0:28:36 | |
You would trust him. You wanted to see where he was going to go. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
You'd hear the music, and I can just hear it now, actually, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
in my head while I'm talking, it was the drum going boom, boom, boom. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
"SYKES" THEME MUSIC | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
We would go and see him at the BBC studios and record his programme. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
All right, all right, where is he, then? | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
Don't come dashing in here like Starsky and Hutch. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
I actually would enjoy seeing... A - seeing Dad work with Hattie, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:25 | |
but also seeing the audience laugh, | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
because he would make us laugh at home as children, | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
and that was natural for us, that was what he did, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
but to come and see him make other people laugh | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
was quite extraordinary. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:37 | |
Mind if I drop my anchor? | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
-I don't mind if you drop your... -Eric! | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
I was very much aware of studio audiences. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
If you are doing something you worked on for a week, | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
and throughout the half hour you're doing it, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
or 45 minutes it takes to record, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
you hear that audience continuously laughing, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
it's a huge tonic. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:00 | |
ERIC SIGHS | 0:30:01 | 0:30:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
Eric, could you spare a moment? | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
Hattie was a great giggler, and often, Dad could just catch his eye, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
and just give a glint to her, and she would just go. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
He said she thought Wood Lane Athletic would win, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
and I said I thought it would be... | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:26 | 0:30:27 | |
I just bit her earring off. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
That was a technical hitch, wasn't it? | 0:30:53 | 0:30:54 | |
-It was indeed, a technical hitch. -Yeah. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
Wasn't us. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:57 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:00 | 0:31:01 | |
Do you always carry doughnuts in your pocket? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
I do when I've got them. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:05 | 0:31:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
I'm terribly sorry. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:16 | 0:31:17 | |
It could have happened to a good show. | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
It's always fun, and they made each other laugh. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
Is there an actor in the audience? | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:25 | 0:31:26 | |
But Sykes didn't score a hit with every show. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
In 1969, he appeared alongside Spike Milligan in Curry and Chips, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
written by Johnny Speight. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
The series would prove controversial, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:41 | |
and was cancelled after just six episodes. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
Now then, I want to tell you that I am very glad | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
to be able to work in this beautiful factory. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
Tell me what kind of job can I do to help your poor Queen | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
and Prince Philip back to prosperity? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
Whoa, you couldn't put it on now! | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
I couldn't believe how racist it was. That was unbelievable. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
When I was doing it, it didn't even occur to me that it was racist. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
Either I start him, or the firm gets fined, or I do. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:05 | |
And if you do start him, you might have a strike on your hands. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
Quite right, Norman. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:09 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
It was just... | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
wasn't it...on the wrong side of what was acceptable? | 0:32:13 | 0:32:19 | |
But his own series was still flying high | 0:32:19 | 0:32:22 | |
as Sykes continued to develop his unique brand of comedy. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
Anything he did, it were very visual. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
Even when he spoke and his comedy acting. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:29 | |
-Always very visual. -It was. -He had a visual face. | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
Primer, cocker, setter, detonator. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
Primer, cocker, setter, detonator. | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
Primer, cocker, setter, detonator. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:44 | |
Primer, cocker, setter, detonator. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
I often wondered whether his ideas came from his writing to begin with. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
-Yes. -You know, so he's actually written the plot, | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
written the storyline, and then thinks, | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
"Right, now how do we improve on this?" | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
And of course then the wisdom and the great brain, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:04 | |
comedy brain, he had for visual comedy, he would then adapt the two. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:08 | |
Visual comedy is the most international of all languages. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Everybody can understand it. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
PIANO PLAYS | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
He was a mime comedian as well as a verbal comedian. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:31 | |
He was angular and strange and weird. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:35 | |
There was nobody like him. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:36 | |
If you've got somebody with a face like him, it's very difficult to just go into the background. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
He could never do that, it's an impossibility. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
I remember seeing his face for the first time and just thinking, "You're funny." | 0:33:44 | 0:33:48 | |
You just think, "What else could you have done for a living?" | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
He had this repertoire of gestures and sudden stillness... | 0:34:00 | 0:34:06 | |
PIANO STOPS ABRUPTLY | 0:34:06 | 0:34:07 | |
..creating a kind of pool of quiet around him. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:11 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
HE COUGHS | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
PIANO PLAYS | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:35 | 0:34:36 | |
Despite wowing audiences, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
behind the scenes, Sykes had been battling hearing loss for many years. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
I think Dad has always used his body. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
I think because of his deafness, you know, for many, many years, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
he worked, actually, without hearing much of what was going on. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
How do you judge audience reaction, though, Eric? | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
-Difficult. -Is it? -Are they in? | 0:34:55 | 0:34:56 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:34:56 | 0:34:58 | |
No, I can just get it. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
That's why I've got to work harder than other comics, | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
-because if they don't laugh hard, I'm lost, you know. -Yeah. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I think to portray his words in a better way, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
he would always be visual. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
He would always move a shoulder or take a double step or head turn, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:17 | |
just to actually put a dot on the comedy. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:21 | |
THUD! | 0:35:22 | 0:35:23 | |
I call him the Beethoven of comedy, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:29 | |
because he was writing comedy and not hearing reaction, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:31 | |
and that was from quite an early age. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
SPANISH GUITAR MUSIC | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
His natural style was really based on mime. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
You know, I mean the words sort of underpinned what he was miming, | 0:35:56 | 0:35:59 | |
and I think that's why he was a great favourite of musicians. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
It was more slapstick than he usually did. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
It was like he really, as it were, went for it, you know, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
and it sort of developed into a total sort of slapstick. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
Comedy, in the real sense of the word, is a little bit like music. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Someone said about music, "It expresses the inexpressible." | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
Comedy is the same, | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
to do with timing and pace, and just the moment. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
You know, he could raise an eyebrow, do that just at the right moment, | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
which is what we try and do in music. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:52 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
So I think underneath all, sort of, geniuses of his kind, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:11 | |
is a lot more complexity. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
Just the awareness and sensitivity to other people. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
He knows why... | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
I mean, the gentleness that comes across in his comedy, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
you know, whether it is verbal or mimed, is an expression of that. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
He was a very gentle man. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
He was never jealous of anybody that was funny. | 0:37:41 | 0:37:44 | |
He would admire them, and he would say, | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
"He's funny, she's good, they're funny." | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
You know I've not been well, Eric. I... | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
I was coughing and sneezing and spluttering the other day, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
and I went to the doctor's. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:54 | |
Flu? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | |
No, I went on the bus. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
The other greatness about him was, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
he didn't need to be bang, bang, bang, the star up front. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
When I got there, I said, "What's good for wind?" He gave me a kite. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
On top of that... | 0:38:09 | 0:38:10 | |
After years of married bliss, the wife left me. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
She ran off with the fella next door, and.. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
ooh, I do miss him. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
He was a very modest man. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:18 | |
I mean, he never went out and said, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
"I am the greatest thing since sliced bread," ever. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-CLAPS RHYTHMICALLY -Eric Sykes! | 0:38:23 | 0:38:24 | |
-CLAPS -Eric Sykes! | 0:38:24 | 0:38:25 | |
-CLAPS -Eric Sykes! Cha-cha-cha! | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
Is there something going on between you two? | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
Eric was a man whose persona was vulnerable. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:38:37 | 0:38:38 | |
Eric was a gentleman. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
He had a tremendous amount of integrity. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
My dad was famous when I was young, but he wasn't just my dad, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:50 | |
he was Eric Sykes to the nation. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
When we were younger, Dad would have an old cinefilm camera, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
and he made films of us. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:03 | |
They were obviously comedy films, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:04 | |
they couldn't just be us at a picnic. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
I will never forget, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
there was one where I was dressed in my sister's ballerina costume. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
He made me come out with my wand, and I did some sort of gesture, | 0:39:14 | 0:39:20 | |
and miraculously appears the other children, in a specific order. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:24 | |
And he loved doing that, and we loved watching it, actually, | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
because we'd go, "Wow, how did you do that?" | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
Eric had this idea one day about a film he wanted to make, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
a silent film called The Plank... | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
..which he wrote, and he wanted to direct. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
It was really unusual to do a silent film. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
He loved belly laughs, with no dialogue. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
He loved Laurel and Hardy. Stan and Ollie | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
were very, very Eric, weren't they? | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
HE SCREAMS | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
ERIC: I loved them because when they walked down the street, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
'the sun was shining, they had a swagger about their gait, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
'but you knew that they were doomed to failure.' | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
I think Eric really wanted to see | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
whether he could muster this particular part of comedy. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
'A very simple idea, seeing two workman | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
'and a plank of wood' | 0:40:50 | 0:40:52 | |
and the adventures of getting it from A to B. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:56 | |
This time Sykes wasn't just in front of the camera. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
Adding another string to his bow, he decided to take on a new role. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
59, take one. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
I don't think people realised what a good director he was. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:09 | |
They knew he was a good actor. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
-Ryan. Can you get the three people just there? -Yes. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:15 | |
'He knew exactly what he wanted from the shot | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
'and from you and he went on until he got it.' | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
-He looks right. I want to go with him like that. -OK. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
I'm going to see behind there's a load of traffic | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
-and I want to pull back now to see the plank blocking it. -Mmm. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
I know that surprised a lot of people | 0:41:32 | 0:41:33 | |
because you think of him as being a sort of jokey man | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
who doesn't care deeply, but he was exactly the opposite. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
They're travelling, you see a bit of that thing travelling, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
you know, and sort of, phwoar, look at that. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
And then we come to that shot and we want to see what he's looking at. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
He wasn't one of those shouty directors, he got on very well. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:56 | |
People liked Eric. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:57 | |
'Directing The Plank | 0:41:57 | 0:41:58 | |
'he got hold of everybody by the shoulders' | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
and told them what he wanted them to do and what he wanted them to look... | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
It was probably a much harder directing piece | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
than a film with a script. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
He had a very organised mind. | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
He had a great comedic structure in his head | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
of how he wanted a thread of something to go through. | 0:42:16 | 0:42:19 | |
Can we have the plank in, Ryan, please? | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
May we have the plank, please? | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
'He didn't write anything down. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
'It was all in his mind, it was visual.' | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
Spike said to me, you know, he edited on camera. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
Do you want them travelling, or merely blocking? | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
No, all blocked. Static. And when they move over to here, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
they'll all be leaning out the windows, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
-oi, oi, the horns will be going beep, beep, beep. -Fine. OK. | 0:42:40 | 0:42:43 | |
Everybody said, he's a bit different from a director, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:46 | |
because he used to invent with a camera, | 0:42:46 | 0:42:48 | |
he used to paint with a camera. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:49 | |
-Ryan. -Yes? | 0:42:49 | 0:42:51 | |
That's fine. I want it to go a bit quicker | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
-and a bit...not too far in between. -Right. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
-And a bit quicker. -More frequent. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:58 | |
It's intriguing that he just decided | 0:42:58 | 0:43:00 | |
I'm going to make this thing about a plank | 0:43:00 | 0:43:02 | |
and the places a plank of wood could take you. | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
It's a tricky thing to do. | 0:43:05 | 0:43:07 | |
DISTANT WHISTLING | 0:43:07 | 0:43:09 | |
ORGAN MUSIC PLAYS | 0:43:18 | 0:43:20 | |
Putting him together with Tommy Cooper was rather wonderful | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
because they are, you know, bewilderment doubled. | 0:43:31 | 0:43:34 | |
'It was them just carrying a plank.' | 0:43:37 | 0:43:39 | |
Why is that funny? It was their walk and their big feet. | 0:43:39 | 0:43:42 | |
-LAUGHS -Hilarious. | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
Eric Sykes and Tommy Cooper, what a combination. | 0:43:53 | 0:43:57 | |
They were both maniacs, | 0:43:57 | 0:43:59 | |
they really were. They just bumped off each other. | 0:43:59 | 0:44:02 | |
They had respect for each other's talent | 0:44:06 | 0:44:09 | |
and Tommy was quite prepared to put himself in the hands of Eric. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:14 | |
Oh, look. | 0:44:21 | 0:44:23 | |
It's OK. I'm all right. | 0:44:23 | 0:44:25 | |
I'm all right. Don't worry. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:27 | |
THEY TALK OVER EACH OTHER | 0:44:27 | 0:44:30 | |
Tommy Cooper was fun and naughty | 0:44:30 | 0:44:34 | |
and you never knew what he was going to do next. | 0:44:34 | 0:44:37 | |
So he was the opposite to Eric. | 0:44:37 | 0:44:39 | |
-What are you doing? I'm all right. -Relax. You're all right now. | 0:44:39 | 0:44:42 | |
There's nothing wrong with me. I'm all right. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:44 | |
Here, drink that, then. | 0:44:49 | 0:44:51 | |
Oh, thank you. Thank you very much. | 0:44:51 | 0:44:53 | |
'They would talk at various points, "You come here", "I'll go there",' | 0:44:53 | 0:44:58 | |
so it wasn't really a silent film, but it didn't spoil the jokes. | 0:44:58 | 0:45:02 | |
One, two and yippee. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:10 | |
For some reason, that little movie, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:14 | |
everybody's seen it. You remember it. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
CHEERING | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
FANFARE | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
'I think it was quite an argument in his mind' | 0:45:27 | 0:45:31 | |
whether he ought to give up performing and go directing | 0:45:31 | 0:45:36 | |
because he loved it, but I think he had always been a performer. | 0:45:36 | 0:45:42 | |
His true first love was the theatre, | 0:45:42 | 0:45:45 | |
because he loved that audience reaction. | 0:45:45 | 0:45:48 | |
But his biggest theatre hit, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:52 | |
acting alongside Jimmy Edwards, had an unpromising start. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:58 | |
Big Bad Mouse, when it first started, | 0:45:58 | 0:46:00 | |
it wasn't very well received by the critics | 0:46:00 | 0:46:04 | |
and in fact, I think it was on its last legs, it was due to come off. | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
'Every night they died a death.' | 0:46:07 | 0:46:09 | |
Jimmy Edwards came into Eric's dressing room and said, | 0:46:09 | 0:46:13 | |
"Well, it's the last night, I'm going to have a laugh." | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
Eric said, "Well, if you are, I am," and that was the birth of the show. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:22 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:46:22 | 0:46:24 | |
They more or less threw the script away and ad-libbed through it. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:32 | |
And the audiences in Big Bad Mouse | 0:46:32 | 0:46:34 | |
just loved it because, I don't think in those days | 0:46:34 | 0:46:39 | |
that people had ever improvised on stage. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
So you see, Mr Watkins? | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
-Yes, I... -You take the facts and the figures... | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
'They used to have, sort of little contests' | 0:46:48 | 0:46:51 | |
and Jimmy would go off to the pub, get a pint, | 0:46:51 | 0:46:55 | |
so Eric would have to, sort of, hold court. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:46:58 | 0:46:59 | |
Never mind, let's have some fun. | 0:47:02 | 0:47:05 | |
Abide with me. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:07 | 0:47:09 | |
And it was all included, you know, for the audience. | 0:47:09 | 0:47:12 | |
I mean, they were in heaven, because, you know, | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Eric would say, "Well, where have you been?" | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
He said, "Well, I've just been for a pint." | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
So it was all very sort of honest. | 0:47:20 | 0:47:21 | |
You'd think in the West End | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
they'd give you the real thing, wouldn't you, eh? | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
The real thing. It's only coloured water. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
At least they did give me a real cigar. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
I wish they'd give me a real actor. | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:47:33 | 0:47:34 | |
He loved going through the fourth wall, grabbing an audience. | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
Come in! | 0:47:39 | 0:47:40 | |
BANGING ON DOOR | 0:47:40 | 0:47:41 | |
How many of you spotted the deliberate mistake? | 0:47:44 | 0:47:48 | |
Eric was a dangerous performer. He took chances. | 0:47:48 | 0:47:51 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:47:51 | 0:47:53 | |
'He would do things with a door, or with a window, or with a prop' | 0:47:57 | 0:48:04 | |
and people would laugh because of it. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
Ha! | 0:48:06 | 0:48:07 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:48:07 | 0:48:09 | |
And to work with Eric you were never quite sure | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
how he was going to behave in that particular situation in a play. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:18 | |
It was mad, wonderful, glorious mayhem. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:27 | |
It was an enormous success, Big Bad Mouse, | 0:48:27 | 0:48:30 | |
it went all the way round the world. Australia, America, Canada. | 0:48:30 | 0:48:34 | |
'They loved it.' | 0:48:34 | 0:48:35 | |
And it was the audience. You see, Eric loved the audience. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:38 | |
Skyes's love for the theatre never faded | 0:48:38 | 0:48:41 | |
and he would remain a huge draw for audiences throughout his life. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
'I was very fortunate to do a season at the Vaudeville' | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
on the Strand in Ray Cooney's Caught In The Net, a farce. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
I seem to remember Eric didn't appear in anything in the first act | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
and we were sitting and saying, "Well, yes, it's very nice, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
"but when is his nibs coming on?" | 0:48:58 | 0:49:01 | |
As soon as he entered onto the stage, uproar. | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
But his acting career took a dramatic turn | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
when Sykes was approached | 0:49:12 | 0:49:14 | |
by renowned theatre director, Sir Peter Hall. | 0:49:14 | 0:49:17 | |
'Peter Hall was doing a Moliere comedy' | 0:49:17 | 0:49:20 | |
and he explained to me that Moliere was a great vaudevillian | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
and I said, "Oh, one of my heroes I work with often is Eric Sykes, | 0:49:23 | 0:49:28 | |
"is there anything in it for him?" | 0:49:28 | 0:49:29 | |
But when Sykes first heard about the idea, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
he felt it could be a step too far. | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
Peter rang and asked Eric would he like to go to lunch. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:38 | |
Eric was getting further and further down in his chair, | 0:49:38 | 0:49:40 | |
thinking, "Oh, I don't want to do this," you know. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
And he loved Peter Hall so he didn't want to say no to him, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
so he was in this terrible position. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:48 | |
And before he could say anything, | 0:49:48 | 0:49:51 | |
Peter Hall put his hand up, right in front of Eric's face, | 0:49:51 | 0:49:55 | |
and he said, "Don't tell me you can't do it, | 0:49:55 | 0:49:58 | |
"because I know you can." | 0:49:58 | 0:49:59 | |
Monsieur seems in pretty dire distress. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:02 | |
I just can't cope with these mad moods of his. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:05 | |
Monsieur? That must be what it is that's got his goat. | 0:50:06 | 0:50:11 | |
He's jealous. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:12 | |
By now Sykes was in his mid-70s, | 0:50:12 | 0:50:14 | |
partially sighted and deaf, but he hadn't let this stand in his way. | 0:50:14 | 0:50:21 | |
He'd got this wonderful invention called hearing glasses. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
Without any lenses, but they had hearing aids in the back | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
so he could hear via the bone behind the ear. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
The fun was that he could hear people behind him as well. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:34 | |
He said, "Listen to what they're saying over there." | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
They were fantastic for him, | 0:50:36 | 0:50:38 | |
because it was a new lease of life, really. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
He came on and I thought, "Oh, please, God, | 0:50:40 | 0:50:43 | |
"let him not knock into the furniture." | 0:50:43 | 0:50:44 | |
-Why, though? -Why? | 0:50:44 | 0:50:47 | |
Because he is. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:52 | |
This was a huge thing | 0:50:52 | 0:50:54 | |
and I don't really think I saw him, | 0:50:54 | 0:50:56 | |
I think I was just too worried for the first ten minutes | 0:50:56 | 0:50:59 | |
about, "Is he going to be all right?" or, "What...?" and of course he was. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:03 | |
When Eric Sykes walked on, | 0:51:03 | 0:51:05 | |
you felt they were going to stand and applaud. | 0:51:05 | 0:51:08 | |
And you could hear, you could see them all, | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
"Oh, here he is, wait, wait until you see him, wait." | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
It was... He filled the theatre with love. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:20 | |
I thought he could do anything. | 0:51:20 | 0:51:21 | |
I thought he could play Hamlet if he wanted to. | 0:51:21 | 0:51:24 | |
I was astounded, | 0:51:24 | 0:51:25 | |
A, he could be on the West End, say these words, | 0:51:25 | 0:51:28 | |
see where he was going, | 0:51:28 | 0:51:30 | |
hear what was going on at his age, and he still brought the house down. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
He loved the challenge. | 0:51:33 | 0:51:35 | |
It became a zonking great hit. | 0:51:35 | 0:51:38 | |
Yet another surprise lay in store for Sykes, | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
as in the audience one night was Hollywood royalty. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise went to see it | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
and phoned the office the next day and said, | 0:51:52 | 0:51:55 | |
"How do we get in touch with this man, | 0:51:55 | 0:51:57 | |
"this wonderful, wonderful man?" | 0:51:57 | 0:52:00 | |
And that's how his film appearance in The Others came about. | 0:52:00 | 0:52:03 | |
That's right, it's a gardener. | 0:52:05 | 0:52:07 | |
Eric himself was a very easy-going person, really enthusiastic. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:11 | |
The day he had to act he was almost like a child, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
really enjoying the process, never complaining, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:19 | |
this was a guy who enjoyed acting. | 0:52:19 | 0:52:21 | |
All right, we're very honest and very hard working. | 0:52:21 | 0:52:26 | |
And the fact that he was British | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
and so well-known in Britain was something we believed | 0:52:28 | 0:52:31 | |
could be important for the movie. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:33 | |
Why should somebody want to take all the curtains? | 0:52:33 | 0:52:36 | |
For Eric to move from where Eric was | 0:52:36 | 0:52:37 | |
into a dramatic role that seemed like a very good fit, | 0:52:37 | 0:52:41 | |
he could take a right at the traffic lights and he was there. | 0:52:41 | 0:52:44 | |
His character was supposed to be absent-minded, | 0:52:44 | 0:52:46 | |
but he, of course, knows what's going on | 0:52:46 | 0:52:49 | |
and so we played with that idea. | 0:52:49 | 0:52:53 | |
Oh, don't worry, the fog won't let her get very far. | 0:52:53 | 0:52:56 | |
Oh, yes, the fog. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:58 | |
He went over to Spain to film the part. | 0:52:58 | 0:53:03 | |
A, he was overawed by the size of the Winnebago he had | 0:53:03 | 0:53:06 | |
because in his day, he never had that sort of help. | 0:53:06 | 0:53:11 | |
Eric, you should be this side. | 0:53:11 | 0:53:13 | |
Always, that's it. And Finuala in the middle. | 0:53:13 | 0:53:16 | |
'He spoke a bit of Spanish, | 0:53:16 | 0:53:17 | |
'so the crew enjoyed him coming on and saying, "Hello," and "How are you?" | 0:53:17 | 0:53:21 | |
'One of the things that I didn't know at that time | 0:53:21 | 0:53:24 | |
'was that he was almost deaf and blind. | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
'One day he showed me the glasses with no glass. | 0:53:27 | 0:53:30 | |
'We had this scene in which he had to' | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
walk through the forest in the middle of the night | 0:53:32 | 0:53:35 | |
and on top of that we were putting in some fog. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:38 | |
'Of course, when he acted, he had to take off his glasses, | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
'so at that moment he couldn't hear, | 0:53:42 | 0:53:44 | |
'so I thought, "How are we going to do this shot?"' | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
The truth is I don't know how he did it, | 0:53:46 | 0:53:48 | |
but when you see the shot, you'd never believe | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
that this is a man who is almost not seeing, | 0:53:50 | 0:53:53 | |
not hearing anything. | 0:53:53 | 0:53:54 | |
Sadly, a few months after the film came out, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:58 | |
Nicole Kidman and Tom Cruise separated | 0:53:58 | 0:54:02 | |
and it was in the news and I said to Dad, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
I said, "Did you hear on the news today | 0:54:06 | 0:54:08 | |
"that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman have separated?" | 0:54:08 | 0:54:11 | |
And I said, "Is it anything to do with you?" | 0:54:11 | 0:54:14 | |
And he said, "I can't help being attractive to women." | 0:54:14 | 0:54:18 | |
And for his next move, | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
Sykes would become part of a worldwide phenomenon. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:28 | |
'It was just a telephone call,' | 0:54:30 | 0:54:32 | |
so I went in and said, "Would you like to do a Harry Potter?" | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
He said, "Have I got time?" There was a little banter, | 0:54:35 | 0:54:38 | |
and I said, "Eric, this is for real." | 0:54:38 | 0:54:40 | |
Somebody said, "What about Eric?" | 0:54:40 | 0:54:42 | |
and I thought, "Well, that would be wonderful," | 0:54:42 | 0:54:44 | |
I would get to work with this man who is legendary. | 0:54:44 | 0:54:47 | |
It was right at the beginning, | 0:54:47 | 0:54:48 | |
so you wanted people to kind of sit up and take notice. | 0:54:48 | 0:54:52 | |
He rehearsed a lot. | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
You could see that what he'd said to himself, | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
he kind of mapped it out. | 0:54:58 | 0:54:59 | |
The whole thing was very specifically, precisely constructed. | 0:54:59 | 0:55:03 | |
It wasn't a personality performance, | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
although he had a very strong personality, but it was delicate. | 0:55:05 | 0:55:08 | |
Bloody kids. | 0:55:08 | 0:55:10 | |
I think in the end probably what I was watching | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
was a lifetime's work. | 0:55:15 | 0:55:16 | |
It was just lovely having Eric Sykes around | 0:55:19 | 0:55:23 | |
and I think that's what he did to the audience, | 0:55:23 | 0:55:26 | |
he was nice to have around. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:28 | |
We could do it without the boy. | 0:55:28 | 0:55:29 | |
No! The boy is everything. It cannot be done without him. | 0:55:29 | 0:55:34 | |
I'm very glad to have worked with Eric Sykes. | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
I'm really glad to have done it. | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
Stand aside or I'll tell | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
so I can give our guest a proper greeting. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
Abracadabra! | 0:55:43 | 0:55:45 | |
I think the most Dad enjoyed about Harry Potter | 0:55:48 | 0:55:50 | |
was the fact his grandchildren were so thrilled | 0:55:50 | 0:55:53 | |
that they saw a film that he was in | 0:55:53 | 0:55:54 | |
because they'd read these books | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
and they were just so proud of their grandad | 0:55:57 | 0:55:59 | |
and we were so proud as a family. | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
And one person had remained a constant presence | 0:56:05 | 0:56:08 | |
through all those years. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:09 | |
ERIC: 'When I went back through my life, | 0:56:09 | 0:56:12 | |
'I put through all the miracles | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
'and all the things that had happened to me that I had accepted, | 0:56:14 | 0:56:19 | |
'I realised that it wasn't just me doing it, | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
'it was my mother guiding me.' | 0:56:21 | 0:56:22 | |
'I worked it out for him...' | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
..that she didn't die in childbirth. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:33 | |
In fact, she died three weeks after Eric was born, | 0:56:33 | 0:56:39 | |
And I told him | 0:56:40 | 0:56:42 | |
and I thought it was just so touching. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:46 | |
He said, "So she did hold me." | 0:56:46 | 0:56:49 | |
'Every artist has got their own magic' | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
and his was magic that lasted for 60 years | 0:56:59 | 0:57:03 | |
no matter what he did, direct, act. | 0:57:03 | 0:57:05 | |
The only thing he didn't try was singing. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:07 | |
Thank God. He'd probably have been good at that as well. | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
It's my wrist. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:12 | |
Well, why have you taken your trousers off? | 0:57:14 | 0:57:17 | |
He loved everybody and everybody loved him. | 0:57:17 | 0:57:19 | |
Oh, Eric! | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
Eric's light was a lone genius in our time. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:28 | |
'He had this timeless quality' | 0:57:31 | 0:57:33 | |
and I think it can, you know, people can watch it again and again, | 0:57:33 | 0:57:36 | |
it will be around forever. | 0:57:36 | 0:57:38 | |
Here's a bit of fun for you. | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:57:40 | 0:57:42 | |
Come on. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:46 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:57:46 | 0:57:49 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:58:24 | 0:58:25 |