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-John, stand by. Turn over now. -Turning. -Sound running. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Action! | 0:00:04 | 0:00:06 | |
# No matter what you are... # | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
The cry, "Action!" meant that I had to start pedalling | 0:00:09 | 0:00:12 | |
with the van in full pursuit. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
Hold on to your seats because here we go. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
Falling through space was fantastic. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
# ..Ooh, girl, with you... # | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
When you think about the pantheon of presenters on British television, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
not just the BBC, there's no question, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
John Noakes is up there, he is one of the very, very best. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
Suddenly I feel awfully alone up here. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
Climbing the mast at HMS Ganges and tightrope walking - | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
I mean, other people didn't do that sort of thing, that was John Noakes. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
# ..Knock down the old grey wall... # | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
For all boys, particularly, he was the go-to guy who did | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
something on telly that day before and you talked about it. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
# ..Nothing to see Nothing to do... # | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
You might call that an avalanche. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
The spirit of him, his gift to us really is that he said, | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
"Listen, you don't have to be prim about presenting." | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
Push it that way, that's it. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:06 | |
"You can also bring a kind of sparkle to it as well," | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
so, thank you, John. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
# ..No matter what you are... # | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
-He was a kind of nice, northern lad really. -Whoa! | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
You know, down-to-earth but much more thoughtful | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
and didn't play the fool when he was just with us. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
Never mind the sheep, just smell that moor air. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
They say it turns men into mice. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
He was so shy, he wasn't an extrovert. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
It's a wild and woolly night out there, lad, isn't it? | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
So he invented a character that he could be. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
# ..No matter what you are... # | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Your sides, John. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
Didn't he do...bleurgh?! | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
# ..Doesn't matter what you do, girl... # | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
John was a big star and he didn't even really realise it. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
Hey! Big cheer for us. Hey! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
My greatest claim to fame is not being on Blue Peter, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
it's working with John Noakes. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:02 | |
# ..Ooh, girl, you girl, want you. # | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
The theme of the programme is adventure. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
Yes, it's very difficult actually to say what Blue Peter is. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
It's many things, it's almost everything. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
We participate in things, we do things on film, we make things. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
We never stand on the sideline and watch, we do it. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
Nelson's Column was a terrific Blue Peter epic. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
I mean, John was fearless and would have a go at anything. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Edward Barnes, who was the deputy head of children's programmes, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
used to live in Balham and every day, he'd come in | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
via Trafalgar Square to get to Television Centre, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
and on one occasion, he saw a ladder up the side | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
and he came and said, "Oh, there's a ladder up Nelson's Column, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
"send someone down to see what's going on." | 0:03:09 | 0:03:11 | |
So I was sent off to go and have a look. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
And I arrived and I found | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
the steeplejack on the square, Reg Dossell, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
and I said to Reg, "What are you doing?" | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
He said, "Oh, I'm cleaning the pigeon droppings out | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
"from underneath Nelson's plinth." | 0:03:26 | 0:03:27 | |
And I said, "Oh, sounds very good. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
"Do you mind if Blue Peter came down and make a film about it? | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
"We could bring John Noakes." | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
And he was sort of, "John Noakes?! Of course, John! Yeah, wonderful!" | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
The doors used to fly open, he was such a big star. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
John had actually come back from filming | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
with the forces' gymnastics team. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
He was absolutely shattered and exhausted. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
Then they said, "We've got | 0:03:56 | 0:03:57 | |
"the go-ahead for doing Nelson's column, but tomorrow morning." | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
And so, he was already feeling quite stiff and elderly | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
when he set off that morning to do the film. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
Oh! I'm a bit stiff, I think. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
-Here we go. -It's a long way, isn't it? -It is, yeah. -How high is it? | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
-It's about 180 feet, I think. -Is it? How are the ladders fixed on? | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
They're roped quite firmly around the actual column itself. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
We had a cherry picker in the corner of the square to get | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
the big wide shot and then I thought, "Health and safety." | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
In fact, I didn't think health and safety, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
I just thought, "How can I stop John from dying?" | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
By gum, it's only held on with rope. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
I said, "Have you got any safety harnesses?" | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
They said, "Oh, yes, we've got a safety harness." | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
They brought out this huge web-like thing. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
And it's quite heavy and, of course, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
there was 180 foot of rope to go with it. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
John just took one look at it and said, "I'm not wearing that, lad. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
"I'll be safer without." | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
I took Reg to one side, "Are you sure about this?" | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
And he said, "Don't worry, he'll be so scared, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
"he'll be making dents with his hands on the side of the ladder | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
"as he goes up," which, of course, is not something you could ever | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
put in a health and safety report. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
You have to take a rest every so often | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
when climbing a ladder this long, otherwise your muscles weaken | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and you could easily lose your grip and fall. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
Our cameraman Terry was waiting at the top and he really did | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
have a bird's-eye view of me reaching the worst part of the climb. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
I wasn't actually on the ground when he arrived. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
He told me afterwards that he looked up there, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
he very nearly didn't do it. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
At this level, the plinth on which Nelson stands overhangs the column. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:47 | |
I then noticed to my horror the ladder at the very top | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
of the column went back at an angle about 20 degrees. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
It leaned out across the top, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
so you actually had to lean out to go round, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
over the top of the parapet, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
and that was the most frightening bit of it. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
I found myself, literally, hanging from the ladder | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
with nothing at all beneath me. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
He said, he hadn't realised how strong you needed to be | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
to actually support your weight as you came underneath the plinth. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
You told me there was overhang, but you didn't tell me | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
-it leant to one side, did you? -No, that was the awkward part. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
I was safely on the ground with a pair of walkie-talkies | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
and he climbed over the lip onto the parapet | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
and I heaved a sigh of relief just when the walkie-talkie burst in, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
like, "Kshhh! Alex, he's got to do it again." | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
It was the sound recordist. I said, "Why?" | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
"Can't tell you, but I tell you, he's got to do it again." | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
The fault on the sound was John saying, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:56 | |
"They didn't bloody tell me about this," as he went over. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
Once we were up there and we'd been up there a few minutes, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
John started to relax. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
-That's it. How are you? -Fine. -Good. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
-It's the experience of a lifetime, actually. -It is, ain't it, really? | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
Right, then. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
Then, just as he was getting his confidence, | 0:07:14 | 0:07:16 | |
the steeplejack had to go over the side of the parapet | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
in a bosun's chair arrangement, so you had to lower yourself down | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
to get under the parapet to clean off all the pigeon muck. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
Kneel down on the base there. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
If I kneel down, I'll start praying, I think. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
Again, when he realised he had to hang over | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
the side of the parapet, he wasn't too happy about that either. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
-Get my other foot down. -That's it. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
-If you look over the edge, you can see all the footholds. -I'd rather not! | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
It's one of those sort of sights that you can do without. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
Move down a couple more feet. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:56 | |
That's it, get your hands underneath there. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
Mind you don't scrape your hands on there too much. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
-OK? -Yeah. Are you coming down to join me? | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Yes, I'm coming right down there now. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
-OK? Do you feel all right? -Yeah, it feels fine. -Good. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
But again, in his professional way, he overcame that nervousness | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
and was chatting to the steeplejacks as if he'd been at it all his life. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
I suppose before I go down, I had to go right to the very top. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
-Yeah, why not? -There was insurance. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I mean, all BBC filming was covered by insurance, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
but there wasn't any additional insurance. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
I got into terrible trouble with the Home Secretary, I think it was. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
They were not pleased that he didn't have any safety harnesses. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
It wouldn't happen now. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Oh, a great deal of what we did we'd be in prison for now. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
My hat's a bit dirty. Never mind, I don't suppose anybody will see that. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
We were all in a bit of awe of him for it really. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
We thought, "Bloomin' heck, Johnny. Well done, mate," you know? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Could only be proud of him. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
John was undoubtedly the action man. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
John never ever said he was scared of anything. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
That was the beauty of working with John. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
I shall...prepare myself. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
CHEERING | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
He had a bit of Yorkshire grit about him. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
He did this, "Oh, let's just do it then. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
"Come on, let's stop messing about." | 0:09:53 | 0:09:54 | |
That's what warmed him to the audience in the first place, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
that there was somebody doing marvellous things. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
HE SHRIEKS | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
-I still can't do it! -All these things started. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
When I was doing a film with Christopher Trace... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
..they had a tower crane, which was very new then. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
So I suggested to Trace that he climb up the tower crane | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
and Trace said, "You're joking! I've got no head for heights, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
"I'm not going to go up one of those." | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
Right now, let's go over and join John. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
So I asked Johnny and he said, "Oh, I'll have a go." | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
John broke away from the rigidity of television. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
He did things that no-one had done before, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
he did things that no-one would do today. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
And that takes spirit, courage and attitude. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:03 | |
Obviously it was his job, but he was doing it for the viewers. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
I'm out of breath. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:08 | |
I'm listening and wobbling up here. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
So he's on a radio mic, there's no direction going on, | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
he can't hear anyone on the ground, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
he's left on his own to produce a piece of television. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
I then had to try to shin up the mast to reach the top | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
called the button. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
I just couldn't manage it, my legs were feeling like lead. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:37 | |
I decided this was the moment to give way to the expert, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
though changing places on a ladder | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
127 feet from the ground had its dicey moments. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
What he did was incredibly dangerous... | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
a lot of the time. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
By not coming back with the film was worse. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
A-one, | 0:11:58 | 0:11:59 | |
a-two, a-three... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
..and go! | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
I've gone to St Moritz in Switzerland | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
to go down the bob run with the RAF team. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I actually managed to go with them on the trip to St Moritz. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
I thought, looking at it, "I'm glad I'm not doing this," but, you know, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
John was up for it and a really nice RAF team | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
who were taking him on board. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
My driver was John Blockey. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
John was giving me the ride of a lifetime. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
We shot round every corner perfectly | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
and then got our speed up to around 90mph. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
I was standing next to, I think it was John Blockey's wife, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:43 | |
and you could hear on the loudspeaker system | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
what was happening on each run. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
But we didn't know that ahead of us there was a hole in the ice wall, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
and by a million to one chance, we hit it. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
And then suddenly, she said, "Oh, my goodness, they've had a crash." | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
I was trapped upside down in the bob and swept along for 100 metres. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
On the final bend, the bob righted itself | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
and shot through the finishing post with John Blockey still in it. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
I too went through the finishing post, but I was too dazed to notice. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
I couldn't get out the sledge, yeah. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
I was hemmed up against the ice. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
He was extremely lucky to survive. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
You could see the way the guys put their arms around him | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and walked him off the run at the end. They knew. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
-What happened to John? -John's fine. John's all right. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
I thought, "Oh, God, this could be major," but no, he was lucky. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
I mean, he just got really badly bruised. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
I look at myself, I actually am an average person. I'm just lucky. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
He enjoyed a very happy childhood the first few years of his life. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
This is a period that John glossed over, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
he didn't want to talk about it. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
He got a chance go to Rishworth School, which was a boarding school. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
Hated every moment of it, he said. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
I was always in trouble, I was a bit of a tearaway when I was little. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
I gave up Greek after three weeks, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:27 | |
I gave up Latin after three years, French after four. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
If I had been at school any longer, I would have given up English. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
But I was a gymnast, rugby player, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
cross-country runner, so I had all the things for being able to | 0:14:38 | 0:14:42 | |
swing onto pieces and jump out of aeroplanes for Blue Peter. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
He said, "When you finally left school on your leaving term, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
"the headmaster would have you all into the office to shake your hand | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
"and say good luck for the future and all that," | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
and so John was lined up with the rest of the people | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
who were leaving on that particular term, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
and the headmaster headed down the row | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
and when he got to John, he said, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
"Hm. I just don't know what's going to happen to you." | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
Five, four, three. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
This is Lulu, she's from Chessington Zoo. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
And she's being... Well, she's leading in her keeper, Alec, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
and she's also leading us in as well. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
John Noakes is responsible for | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
one of the most memorable moments in British television history. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
Let's just see if I can take the leg there and see if I can hold it. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
We had an item with a baby elephant who came from Chessington Zoo. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:44 | |
I'm going to give her a bucket of water and see if that will... | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
-Come here, Lulu. -Settle her down. -There you are, there's the bucket of water. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:50 | |
The inevitable happened. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
I mean, it was literally in one end, out the other. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
In Ceylon, even the male elephants don't have tusks. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Oop! We're having a slight penny down here, a slight problem. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
And then Lulu began to defecate. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Alec, thank you very much indeed. Can you...? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
I'm going to stand back a little bit. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
It was right up Noakes' street really, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
because rather than pretend it wasn't happening, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
with his sense of humour and his built-in anarchy, | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
John just took to this. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
As I was saying, we'll see all sorts of very exciting things. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
Let it go that way. Let it go that way. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
I mean, Lulu the elephant, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
it's one of the best bits of television of all time. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
I feel so proud and lucky that I was there. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
No-one knows I was there, they know Val was there | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
because they can remember that she tried to keep it going. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
I just stood there laughing, I'd gone. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
-..When we're on holiday. -Ooh! Get off me foot! | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
Johnny really made it much more fun | 0:16:46 | 0:16:47 | |
than perhaps it might have been otherwise | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
and I don't think the elephant actually had stood on his foot. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
They're going away on holiday too. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
They're going to spend it out in the country, but Lulu won't be there. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Oh, dear! How are you doing? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
John was making it into a variety act. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
And there she goes, out of the studio. Farewell. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
Oh, dear, I've trod right in it. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:10 | |
Well, that's the thing about animals... | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
They say it's lucky, don't they? | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
And we're having a lucky programme today. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
That was absolutely John at his very, very best. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
I don't think he ever topped that. He tried. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
This is what's called getting left holding on to the cup of tea. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
-Run it, Johnny, run it. -Come back! You eat the fish and chips! | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Right. Come on back, Roo. There's not going to be much time. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
How are you doing? All right? Can you sit up? Ooh! | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
That's my finger! Yes, I know! | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Ooh, you take the food away from a lion and he'll murder you. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
Ooh, look, it's all over the place. All right! | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
All right! | 0:17:44 | 0:17:45 | |
I'm not going to take it away from you, it's all yours! Help! | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
-Can you give me a kiss? Oh! -Oh! | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Behave yourself! | 0:17:50 | 0:17:52 | |
If there was a joke there, he would do it. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
I must say, Johnny, his white bits have come up really white already. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
And his black bits are very black. They are, aren't they? Yes. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
Obviously, after the programme is over, | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
-we're going to continue drying... -Oh, sorry, I thought you were Shep. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
We were out to have some fun. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
I'll get a dirty great big headache if I go over the front! | 0:18:07 | 0:18:11 | |
Oh! | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Johnny's first thing always, whenever we did anything was, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
"Let's have some fun." | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
Practice will win out in the end! | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
Oh! | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
There were elements of the real John went into the clown, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
the clown character that he evolved for himself. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
His clown suit that he would sort of put on to perform. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
But when he wasn't required to perform, you didn't see the clown. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:40 | |
Use proper make-up, don't use... | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
That John Noakes that you saw on screen was what | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
I always called his performance mode and he invented this madcap guy. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
He invented John Noakes. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
I started life as an engine fitter in the RAF | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
and then I joined BOAC, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
and I always wanted to be an actor or a pilot or a doctor. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
I didn't have the brains for being a pilot or a doctor, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
so I became an actor. You don't need brains for that. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
He decided that he would change his name by deed poll. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
He took his name from his stepfather, Alfie Noakes, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
who was quite a well-known professional trumpeter at the time. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
And he became the John Noakes that we know. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
When I first came across him, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:41 | |
he was definitely a starving actor which was quite appealing. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
He was spotted by an agent | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
and that sort of rather changed things for John. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
It was actually the most boring time of my life. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
The same play for five months. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
When you're doing the same thing night after night, | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
same spot, same words. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
I couldn't do it. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:17 | |
And after that, came back and then started getting bits on television, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
still doing rep in the meantime. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
By chance, he ended up going at very short notice | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
to work for a friend of his who was a theatre producer | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
who was working at Leicester Theatre at the time. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
I was up at Leicester Rep doing a guest appearance as Willy Mossop | 0:20:41 | 0:20:45 | |
in Hobson's Choice. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:46 | |
My picture appeared in the Leicester Mercury. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
Biddy Baxter, who's the editor, the boss, her mum comes from Leicester, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
so Biddy's mum sent the local paper down to Biddy | 0:20:52 | 0:20:57 | |
and she saw the picture and wrote to me. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
I thought it might be an idea to audition him | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
and see if he'd like to work on the programme. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
There's a friend of ours, John Noakes, | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
up at the top of the hill now, and he hasn't been skiing either, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
but he's going to have a go. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
-Are you ready, John? -OK, Chris. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:16 | |
He did a fairly disastrous audition. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
But there was just something, | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
there was always something about Noakes | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
that made you think there was something worth persevering with. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Well done! | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
I kept on my feet. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
Well, now for some really splendid pictures of skiers | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
speeding down the French Alps. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
He didn't find it easy at all. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
He had a tremendous problem learning his lines. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
The Royal Horse Artillery use all these tools to clean their horses | 0:21:49 | 0:21:55 | |
but things weren't quite the same at Wellington Barracks, because... | 0:21:55 | 0:22:00 | |
Now, why weren't they the same? | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
For the life of me, I just can't remember for the moment. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Er... | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
Now this is a problem. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
I enjoyed being other people, pretending to be other people. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
I enjoyed dressing up, putting on the make-up | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
and false whiskers, and saying someone else's words. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
Myself, I hadn't anything to offer, but I liked to be somebody else, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
and then sat in front of the camera, the camera wanted to see me. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
I wonder if you can guess what this is. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
And it was a terrifying battle. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
It was quite frightening, in fact. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I've often wondered what would happen | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
if you got one of these stuck on your head, like this. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
I remember thinking he was good and very lively and fun. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Just take a look at this for a cabbage, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
I've never seen anything like it. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
-Look at it, it's huge! -Is it bigger than me? | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
-It's almost as big as your head! -Shall we measure it? | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
We've got a tape measure there, just pop it round. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
Gradually, he found the character he wanted to play, | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
and he did it to perfection, really, and I think he stopped worrying. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:06 | |
John was someone who defied the norms of television | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
in the '60s and '70s. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
On your marks, champion going first, get set. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Are you ready? | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
-Go! -Eh? Oh! Now. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
He was irreverent. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
He was funny. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
He could be spontaneous. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
-How long has the society been formed now? -160 years. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
160? Any founder members here? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
It was great hearing someone who just sounded like someone | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
you might have heard in the shop next door or in your school | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
rather than somebody who was speaking to you very carefully. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
-BEEPING -Then if I press it in the left eye... | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
He was probably one of the first people in television | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
with a real regional accent. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
And this is one of the latest things and T-shirts to come out of Japan, | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
and its designer, Kansai Yamamoto, and I had to write that on my wrist, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
comes from Tokyo. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:00 | |
He enjoyed it when we had big items in the studio. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
# We are! # | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
-We are! -We are on fire! Let's get the firemen in behind. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
When Purves arrived, they became great buddies. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
And Valerie Singleton's boyfriend at the time | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
said they were like a couple of soldiers on leave! | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
Mr Peter Pruves. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Mr Peter Purves. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
He was never the most approachable person at first | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
but we got on absolutely wonderfully virtually from day one. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
Give me a hand, we'll open the box. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
He's very lively, isn't he? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
Here we are. Hello, fella. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
And out he goes. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
Pete was wonderful to bounce off, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
but when Pete wasn't there, Shep was there, so I could bounce off him | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
and gradually started talking to the dog. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Yes, yes, you know that one, don't you? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Ah! He's got sharp teeth. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
You have got sharp teeth. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
Where's your bone? What he really needs now is a proper name. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Oh, sorry, I wasn't really watching. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
I've got 100 lines of spelling des... | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
John really loved that dog. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:24 | |
Thanks, Shep. I know you know how to spell it. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
And I think Shep understood John. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
I know it sounds incredible. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
I'm not sure what he's going to do | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
because they're fairly well spread out. He's doing a big circle there. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
They were a double act, John and Shep. Shep played | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
Ernie Wise to John's Morecambe, basically. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Woof! Woof! | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
The bark frightened Shep more. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
-Who is this little friend? -He's a little friend with four legs. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
He's a bit like you, a dog. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
There he is. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
Introductions are unnecessary, I have made contact. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
Shep also knew the rules of the game. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
He knew how to behave if he wanted to, not that he did. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
-Give my regards to the Doctor. -Affirmative. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Exactly like John, he'd got a rebellious streak. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
He was another natural subversive. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
They were an incredibly good pair. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:11 | |
No! You might go off with the Doctor to another planet. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:14 | |
They made a waxwork of John and Shep for Madame Tussauds. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
I am quite jealous because they never made a waxwork of me. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
You've got a very good likeness, actually, especially his eyes. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
The people who watched the programme are not just children. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
They go from four to 94, 104 in fact. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
You get your old-age pensioners, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
go down the docks, all the dockers know you. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
Anywhere you go. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
My better half. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
He was shy, he didn't like celebrity, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
and I used to get a lot of mail. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
There were people from all walks of life | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
and the all sort of felt that they were John Noakes's friends. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Don't worry, you've got Percy Thrower here to talk to. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
You can talk about your Brussels sprouts. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
He wasn't in there to become a star. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
He wasn't there to be a personality. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
He was there to enjoy doing things. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
It was last spring that Alex Jackson, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
the leader of the Falcons, invited me to jump with his team, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
but from a much higher altitude than I'd ever jumped before, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
from five miles up. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
The Falcons loved Noakes. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
There was nothing of the grand BBC presenter | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
coming to be with the peasants. He was one of them. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Altogether, go! | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
This guy was going to come and if he didn't cut the mustard, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
then he was probably going to be rejected, | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
but he did, on every level. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
Everybody liked John and we didn't have any problems with him. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
MUSIC: Flying by The Beatles | 0:27:39 | 0:27:43 | |
I think what impressed me about John at the time was things could | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
go wrong, but because we said | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
if you do this it'll be OK, he just accepted that. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
And there was this confidence that, OK, he will do it. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
He was nervous but controlled. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
And there was never a concern | 0:28:04 | 0:28:05 | |
about him freaking out or doing something silly. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
He said it was the nearest thing you could get to flying like a bird. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
Yes, he really did enjoy it. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
And we're in space, it's unbelievable, 25,000 feet! | 0:28:26 | 0:28:31 | |
I remember we flew down to him | 0:28:31 | 0:28:32 | |
and the boys had done their job very well. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
They linked up with John into a formation | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
so that John was not flying on his own. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:40 | |
On his right was the movie cameramen, Bobby Soutar, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
and a guy called Ray Willis was flying around taking stills, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
then the formation began to build a little. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
Somebody else is coming down. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
Ray has joined us now, Ray with his still camera. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:02 | |
And then somebody hit it hard. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
He's coming in rather fast. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
And...oh! | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
I'm upside down! | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
He flipped over onto his back | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
and then recovered himself as he'd been taught. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
Now we're going to make the link-up again. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:26 | |
We had originally decided it would be really cool | 0:29:26 | 0:29:29 | |
if John could do a commentary on the way down, | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
but it could have interfered with his oxygen supply | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
and that was out of the question. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
So we couldn't mic him up in any way, shape or form, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
so, secret's out, it was dubbed. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
He's still hanging on to me, whoever crashed into me, | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
I don't know who it is. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
I think it worked quite well, a lifelong secret. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
And we've got a bit of cloud down there, | 0:29:57 | 0:29:59 | |
120mph and you can feel the speed! | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
People always talk about the five-mile jump and, of course, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
if you do your maths, 25,000 feet falls a little bit short | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
of actually five miles, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
but there was always that temptation just to sneak those extra few feet | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
and make a five-mile descent, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
so in all the courses that we did, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
we would always rely on the captain just to let the aircraft | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
drift up to the five miles | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
so it was...semi-legal, but very safe. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:35 | |
It was always done safely. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
And now we're going to be opening. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
We used to do it on each course, we did it for John. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:44 | |
Only feet to go...and touchdown! | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
John just said, "Job done," and we all got on the transport | 0:30:49 | 0:30:54 | |
and went and had a beer. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:56 | |
-That was all over the place. -And we went head over heels! | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
The Falcons had been terrific, | 0:30:59 | 0:31:01 | |
not many crack teams would take on a learner like me | 0:31:01 | 0:31:04 | |
and thanks to them, I'd achieved one of my greatest ambitions. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
It was a bit like an overgrown schoolboy's job, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
I was a Peter Pan, really. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
Towards the end I was very tired and exhausted | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
and I'd worked 12 and a half years and I'd done all these things | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
and I don't think any of them really ever realised how difficult it was. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
You've got to be a Tarzan, haven't you? | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
I think there's a sense of honour, really, | 0:31:36 | 0:31:38 | |
that you offer them something else. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:41 | |
And John did Go With Noakes. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
HE SINGS TO HIMSELF | 0:31:49 | 0:31:54 | |
Sheppy, bit more chocolate? | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
When he did his Go With Noakes series, it's great. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
Him and his dog going off doing daft things. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Shep and I had stumbled on the monthly gathering | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
of the Egremont Gurning Club. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
You can't move it around with your hands and hope it sticks there? | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
No. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:20 | |
The nice thing about John was he loved people | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
and whenever we took him into a situation, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
he wanted to get on with those people. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
I can't! | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
He'd actually take more time to do that than most presenters would. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
He's a world champion. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
The sheep are over there. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Remember your motto - pull yourself together! | 0:32:40 | 0:32:42 | |
All right? Now steady. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
Shep had this instinct of knowing where the camera was, I think. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
There's a good boy. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
And would position himself or run around within shot to order. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
Lie down, lie down! Not the sheep. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Get off! Good heavens! | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
I think possibly that would have been his happiest time on television. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:06 | |
That was Egremont. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
We've never been there before. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
We might not never go there again. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
What are your good memories of Go With Noakes, do you think? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
I think the old dog, really. He was a super fella. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
I've got some very sad news. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
He died on Saturday. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:27 | |
Oh... | 0:33:27 | 0:33:28 | |
And I'm not over it. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
John could be quite emotional, | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
and if he was, he was. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
It's no sham, no pretence. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
Well, thank you very much for coming in, | 0:33:40 | 0:33:42 | |
and I'm sorry we've had to end on this rather sad note. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
Well, I actually wanted to say it myself, | 0:33:45 | 0:33:47 | |
I didn't want anybody else to say it. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
When Shep had died, that broke his heart. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
Did you have any qualms about giving up a very successful television career? | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
None whatsoever. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:06 | |
What about the fame? Do you miss that? | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
The fame is in the minds of others. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
It's an abstract quantity. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
It doesn't exist. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:16 | |
MUSIC: Joy by Apollo 100 | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
-We're going to come around. -I'll give you a hand. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
John was able to not have any backward looks. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
A bit of a maverick in a way. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
He had a happy knack of being able to change direction | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
and not take life too seriously. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
Wasn't particularly absorbed by material things. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
He was in a way quite a free spirit, really. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:41 | |
This was going to be the next phase of our life. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
We were all set to sail off into the sunset | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
with no plan other than to go to the Caribbean, really, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:02 | |
and see what we found there, | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
so that's what we did. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
But unfortunately we didn't get there. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:09 | |
We left Gibraltar with not a wonderful weather forecast | 0:35:11 | 0:35:15 | |
but not a particularly bad one, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
but unfortunately it got worse and worse. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
We were just off the North African coast | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
when the weather really came in with a vengeance. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
Gigantic waves, as I saw, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:34 | |
I looked down the valley and looked out, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
as far as the eye can see was a wall of water, | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
smooth, streaked with spume, and I think we went up it. | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
We went up it and fell off and down. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
The wave broke on top of us, the windows caved in, the cabin split. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
The boat was half full of water, the mast came down | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
then the starter motor went underwater | 0:35:58 | 0:36:01 | |
and I couldn't start it again. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Later, we saw a tanker coming. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
That was the most frightening part of the whole thing, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
this tanker trying to come alongside. | 0:36:16 | 0:36:18 | |
We were trying to manoeuvre as best we could. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
They were up there and we were down, it was just a nightmare situation, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
but anyway we did get alongside, they pulled us in | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
and finally we scrambled up scrambling nets and onto the boat. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:36 | |
MUSIC: Praise You by Fatboy Slim | 0:36:36 | 0:36:41 | |
There is a saying that old Blue Peter presenters never escape. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
They're dragged back, they're thrown out of aeroplanes, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
they climb cliffs, today I'm here to go right up there. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:59 | |
We'd like to give you the programme's highest award, | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
a gold badge. There you go. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
In the later years when John was older, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
-he'd turn up and do those reunions. -That was worth it! | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
It was a bit like the Laurence Olivier of Blue Peter presenters. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
He'd be the one who always just managed to grab | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
the attention from everyone else. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
The 50th anniversary of Blue Peter, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
we went to Buckingham Palace to have tea | 0:37:21 | 0:37:22 | |
with Her Majesty the Queen in the Salon. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
They filmed us arriving and everything else, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
you knew he was going to do it, | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
up the big grand staircase, tripped. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Can't see a set of steps without falling over. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
Way on, long after Blue Peter, we were still very good friends. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
He was my mate. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
My pal John. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
# Feel like I'm flying, I'm dying to say | 0:38:04 | 0:38:09 | |
# Want you forever and easy | 0:38:09 | 0:38:14 | |
# Be where you are, where I want you to stay | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
# Don't you know what I'm saying, believe me | 0:38:21 | 0:38:27 | |
# Feel like I'm falling, it's all I can do | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
# Lying and dying is lonely... # | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
We all die, I'm going to die. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
Well, not for a few hundred years! | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
It's a super life. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:52 | |
# Way to believe | 0:38:59 | 0:39:04 | |
# Wish I could be... # | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 |