John Noakes: TV Hero


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-John, stand by. Turn over now.

-Turning.

-Sound running.

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Action!

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# No matter what you are... #

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The cry, "Action!" meant that I had to start pedalling

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with the van in full pursuit.

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Hold on to your seats because here we go.

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Falling through space was fantastic.

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# ..Ooh, girl, with you... #

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When you think about the pantheon of presenters on British television,

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not just the BBC, there's no question,

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John Noakes is up there, he is one of the very, very best.

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Suddenly I feel awfully alone up here.

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Climbing the mast at HMS Ganges and tightrope walking -

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I mean, other people didn't do that sort of thing, that was John Noakes.

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# ..Knock down the old grey wall... #

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For all boys, particularly, he was the go-to guy who did

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something on telly that day before and you talked about it.

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# ..Nothing to see Nothing to do... #

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You might call that an avalanche.

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The spirit of him, his gift to us really is that he said,

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"Listen, you don't have to be prim about presenting."

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Push it that way, that's it.

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"You can also bring a kind of sparkle to it as well,"

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so, thank you, John.

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# ..No matter what you are... #

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-He was a kind of nice, northern lad really.

-Whoa!

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You know, down-to-earth but much more thoughtful

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and didn't play the fool when he was just with us.

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Never mind the sheep, just smell that moor air.

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They say it turns men into mice.

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He was so shy, he wasn't an extrovert.

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It's a wild and woolly night out there, lad, isn't it?

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So he invented a character that he could be.

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# ..No matter what you are... #

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Your sides, John.

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Didn't he do...bleurgh?!

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# ..Doesn't matter what you do, girl... #

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John was a big star and he didn't even really realise it.

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Hey! Big cheer for us. Hey!

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My greatest claim to fame is not being on Blue Peter,

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it's working with John Noakes.

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# ..Ooh, girl, you girl, want you. #

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The theme of the programme is adventure.

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Yes, it's very difficult actually to say what Blue Peter is.

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It's many things, it's almost everything.

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We participate in things, we do things on film, we make things.

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We never stand on the sideline and watch, we do it.

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Nelson's Column was a terrific Blue Peter epic.

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I mean, John was fearless and would have a go at anything.

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Edward Barnes, who was the deputy head of children's programmes,

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used to live in Balham and every day, he'd come in

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via Trafalgar Square to get to Television Centre,

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and on one occasion, he saw a ladder up the side

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and he came and said, "Oh, there's a ladder up Nelson's Column,

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"send someone down to see what's going on."

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So I was sent off to go and have a look.

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And I arrived and I found

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the steeplejack on the square, Reg Dossell,

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and I said to Reg, "What are you doing?"

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He said, "Oh, I'm cleaning the pigeon droppings out

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"from underneath Nelson's plinth."

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And I said, "Oh, sounds very good.

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"Do you mind if Blue Peter came down and make a film about it?

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"We could bring John Noakes."

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And he was sort of, "John Noakes?! Of course, John! Yeah, wonderful!"

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The doors used to fly open, he was such a big star.

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John had actually come back from filming

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with the forces' gymnastics team.

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He was absolutely shattered and exhausted.

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Then they said, "We've got

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"the go-ahead for doing Nelson's column, but tomorrow morning."

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And so, he was already feeling quite stiff and elderly

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when he set off that morning to do the film.

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Oh! I'm a bit stiff, I think.

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-Here we go.

-It's a long way, isn't it?

-It is, yeah.

-How high is it?

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-It's about 180 feet, I think.

-Is it? How are the ladders fixed on?

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They're roped quite firmly around the actual column itself.

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We had a cherry picker in the corner of the square to get

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the big wide shot and then I thought, "Health and safety."

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In fact, I didn't think health and safety,

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I just thought, "How can I stop John from dying?"

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By gum, it's only held on with rope.

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I said, "Have you got any safety harnesses?"

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They said, "Oh, yes, we've got a safety harness."

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They brought out this huge web-like thing.

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And it's quite heavy and, of course,

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there was 180 foot of rope to go with it.

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John just took one look at it and said, "I'm not wearing that, lad.

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"I'll be safer without."

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I took Reg to one side, "Are you sure about this?"

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And he said, "Don't worry, he'll be so scared,

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"he'll be making dents with his hands on the side of the ladder

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"as he goes up," which, of course, is not something you could ever

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put in a health and safety report.

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You have to take a rest every so often

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when climbing a ladder this long, otherwise your muscles weaken

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and you could easily lose your grip and fall.

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Our cameraman Terry was waiting at the top and he really did

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have a bird's-eye view of me reaching the worst part of the climb.

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I wasn't actually on the ground when he arrived.

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He told me afterwards that he looked up there,

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he very nearly didn't do it.

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At this level, the plinth on which Nelson stands overhangs the column.

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I then noticed to my horror the ladder at the very top

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of the column went back at an angle about 20 degrees.

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It leaned out across the top,

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so you actually had to lean out to go round,

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over the top of the parapet,

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and that was the most frightening bit of it.

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I found myself, literally, hanging from the ladder

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with nothing at all beneath me.

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He said, he hadn't realised how strong you needed to be

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to actually support your weight as you came underneath the plinth.

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You told me there was overhang, but you didn't tell me

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-it leant to one side, did you?

-No, that was the awkward part.

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I was safely on the ground with a pair of walkie-talkies

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and he climbed over the lip onto the parapet

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and I heaved a sigh of relief just when the walkie-talkie burst in,

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like, "Kshhh! Alex, he's got to do it again."

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It was the sound recordist. I said, "Why?"

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"Can't tell you, but I tell you, he's got to do it again."

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The fault on the sound was John saying,

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"They didn't bloody tell me about this," as he went over.

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Once we were up there and we'd been up there a few minutes,

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John started to relax.

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-That's it. How are you?

-Fine.

-Good.

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-It's the experience of a lifetime, actually.

-It is, ain't it, really?

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Right, then.

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Then, just as he was getting his confidence,

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the steeplejack had to go over the side of the parapet

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in a bosun's chair arrangement, so you had to lower yourself down

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to get under the parapet to clean off all the pigeon muck.

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Kneel down on the base there.

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If I kneel down, I'll start praying, I think.

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Again, when he realised he had to hang over

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the side of the parapet, he wasn't too happy about that either.

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-Get my other foot down.

-That's it.

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-If you look over the edge, you can see all the footholds.

-I'd rather not!

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It's one of those sort of sights that you can do without.

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Move down a couple more feet.

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That's it, get your hands underneath there.

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Mind you don't scrape your hands on there too much.

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-OK?

-Yeah. Are you coming down to join me?

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Yes, I'm coming right down there now.

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-OK? Do you feel all right?

-Yeah, it feels fine.

-Good.

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But again, in his professional way, he overcame that nervousness

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and was chatting to the steeplejacks as if he'd been at it all his life.

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I suppose before I go down, I had to go right to the very top.

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-Yeah, why not?

-There was insurance.

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I mean, all BBC filming was covered by insurance,

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but there wasn't any additional insurance.

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I got into terrible trouble with the Home Secretary, I think it was.

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They were not pleased that he didn't have any safety harnesses.

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It wouldn't happen now.

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Oh, a great deal of what we did we'd be in prison for now.

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My hat's a bit dirty. Never mind, I don't suppose anybody will see that.

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We were all in a bit of awe of him for it really.

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We thought, "Bloomin' heck, Johnny. Well done, mate," you know?

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Could only be proud of him.

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John was undoubtedly the action man.

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John never ever said he was scared of anything.

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That was the beauty of working with John.

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I shall...prepare myself.

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CHEERING

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He had a bit of Yorkshire grit about him.

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He did this, "Oh, let's just do it then.

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"Come on, let's stop messing about."

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That's what warmed him to the audience in the first place,

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that there was somebody doing marvellous things.

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HE SHRIEKS

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-I still can't do it!

-All these things started.

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When I was doing a film with Christopher Trace...

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..they had a tower crane, which was very new then.

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So I suggested to Trace that he climb up the tower crane

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and Trace said, "You're joking! I've got no head for heights,

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"I'm not going to go up one of those."

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Right now, let's go over and join John.

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So I asked Johnny and he said, "Oh, I'll have a go."

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John broke away from the rigidity of television.

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He did things that no-one had done before,

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he did things that no-one would do today.

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And that takes spirit, courage and attitude.

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Obviously it was his job, but he was doing it for the viewers.

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I'm out of breath.

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I'm listening and wobbling up here.

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So he's on a radio mic, there's no direction going on,

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he can't hear anyone on the ground,

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he's left on his own to produce a piece of television.

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I then had to try to shin up the mast to reach the top

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called the button.

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I just couldn't manage it, my legs were feeling like lead.

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I decided this was the moment to give way to the expert,

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though changing places on a ladder

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127 feet from the ground had its dicey moments.

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What he did was incredibly dangerous...

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a lot of the time.

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By not coming back with the film was worse.

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A-one,

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a-two, a-three...

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..and go!

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I've gone to St Moritz in Switzerland

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to go down the bob run with the RAF team.

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I actually managed to go with them on the trip to St Moritz.

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I thought, looking at it, "I'm glad I'm not doing this," but, you know,

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John was up for it and a really nice RAF team

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who were taking him on board.

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My driver was John Blockey.

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John was giving me the ride of a lifetime.

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We shot round every corner perfectly

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and then got our speed up to around 90mph.

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I was standing next to, I think it was John Blockey's wife,

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and you could hear on the loudspeaker system

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what was happening on each run.

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But we didn't know that ahead of us there was a hole in the ice wall,

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and by a million to one chance, we hit it.

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And then suddenly, she said, "Oh, my goodness, they've had a crash."

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I was trapped upside down in the bob and swept along for 100 metres.

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On the final bend, the bob righted itself

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and shot through the finishing post with John Blockey still in it.

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I too went through the finishing post, but I was too dazed to notice.

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I couldn't get out the sledge, yeah.

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I was hemmed up against the ice.

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He was extremely lucky to survive.

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You could see the way the guys put their arms around him

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and walked him off the run at the end. They knew.

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-What happened to John?

-John's fine. John's all right.

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I thought, "Oh, God, this could be major," but no, he was lucky.

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I mean, he just got really badly bruised.

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I look at myself, I actually am an average person. I'm just lucky.

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He enjoyed a very happy childhood the first few years of his life.

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This is a period that John glossed over,

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he didn't want to talk about it.

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He got a chance go to Rishworth School, which was a boarding school.

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Hated every moment of it, he said.

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I was always in trouble, I was a bit of a tearaway when I was little.

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I gave up Greek after three weeks,

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I gave up Latin after three years, French after four.

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If I had been at school any longer, I would have given up English.

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But I was a gymnast, rugby player,

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cross-country runner, so I had all the things for being able to

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swing onto pieces and jump out of aeroplanes for Blue Peter.

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He said, "When you finally left school on your leaving term,

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"the headmaster would have you all into the office to shake your hand

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"and say good luck for the future and all that,"

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and so John was lined up with the rest of the people

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who were leaving on that particular term,

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and the headmaster headed down the row

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and when he got to John, he said,

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"Hm. I just don't know what's going to happen to you."

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Five, four, three.

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This is Lulu, she's from Chessington Zoo.

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And she's being... Well, she's leading in her keeper, Alec,

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and she's also leading us in as well.

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John Noakes is responsible for

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one of the most memorable moments in British television history.

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Let's just see if I can take the leg there and see if I can hold it.

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We had an item with a baby elephant who came from Chessington Zoo.

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I'm going to give her a bucket of water and see if that will...

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-Come here, Lulu.

-Settle her down.

-There you are, there's the bucket of water.

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The inevitable happened.

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I mean, it was literally in one end, out the other.

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In Ceylon, even the male elephants don't have tusks.

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Oop! We're having a slight penny down here, a slight problem.

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And then Lulu began to defecate.

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Alec, thank you very much indeed. Can you...?

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I'm going to stand back a little bit.

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It was right up Noakes' street really,

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because rather than pretend it wasn't happening,

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with his sense of humour and his built-in anarchy,

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John just took to this.

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As I was saying, we'll see all sorts of very exciting things.

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Let it go that way. Let it go that way.

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I mean, Lulu the elephant,

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it's one of the best bits of television of all time.

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I feel so proud and lucky that I was there.

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No-one knows I was there, they know Val was there

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because they can remember that she tried to keep it going.

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I just stood there laughing, I'd gone.

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-..When we're on holiday.

-Ooh! Get off me foot!

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Johnny really made it much more fun

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than perhaps it might have been otherwise

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and I don't think the elephant actually had stood on his foot.

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They're going away on holiday too.

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They're going to spend it out in the country, but Lulu won't be there.

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LAUGHTER

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Oh, dear! How are you doing?

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John was making it into a variety act.

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And there she goes, out of the studio. Farewell.

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Oh, dear, I've trod right in it.

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Well, that's the thing about animals...

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They say it's lucky, don't they?

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And we're having a lucky programme today.

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That was absolutely John at his very, very best.

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I don't think he ever topped that. He tried.

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This is what's called getting left holding on to the cup of tea.

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-Run it, Johnny, run it.

-Come back! You eat the fish and chips!

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Right. Come on back, Roo. There's not going to be much time.

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How are you doing? All right? Can you sit up? Ooh!

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That's my finger! Yes, I know!

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Ooh, you take the food away from a lion and he'll murder you.

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Ooh, look, it's all over the place. All right!

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All right!

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I'm not going to take it away from you, it's all yours! Help!

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-Can you give me a kiss? Oh!

-Oh!

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Behave yourself!

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If there was a joke there, he would do it.

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I must say, Johnny, his white bits have come up really white already.

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And his black bits are very black. They are, aren't they? Yes.

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Obviously, after the programme is over,

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-we're going to continue drying...

-Oh, sorry, I thought you were Shep.

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We were out to have some fun.

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I'll get a dirty great big headache if I go over the front!

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Oh!

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Johnny's first thing always, whenever we did anything was,

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"Let's have some fun."

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Practice will win out in the end!

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Oh!

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There were elements of the real John went into the clown,

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the clown character that he evolved for himself.

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His clown suit that he would sort of put on to perform.

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But when he wasn't required to perform, you didn't see the clown.

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Use proper make-up, don't use...

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That John Noakes that you saw on screen was what

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I always called his performance mode and he invented this madcap guy.

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He invented John Noakes.

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I started life as an engine fitter in the RAF

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and then I joined BOAC,

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and I always wanted to be an actor or a pilot or a doctor.

0:19:010:19:05

I didn't have the brains for being a pilot or a doctor,

0:19:050:19:08

so I became an actor. You don't need brains for that.

0:19:080:19:12

He decided that he would change his name by deed poll.

0:19:180:19:22

He took his name from his stepfather, Alfie Noakes,

0:19:220:19:26

who was quite a well-known professional trumpeter at the time.

0:19:260:19:30

And he became the John Noakes that we know.

0:19:320:19:34

When I first came across him,

0:19:400:19:41

he was definitely a starving actor which was quite appealing.

0:19:410:19:45

He was spotted by an agent

0:19:470:19:49

and that sort of rather changed things for John.

0:19:490:19:51

It was actually the most boring time of my life.

0:20:040:20:06

The same play for five months.

0:20:060:20:10

When you're doing the same thing night after night,

0:20:100:20:13

same spot, same words.

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I couldn't do it.

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And after that, came back and then started getting bits on television,

0:20:210:20:25

still doing rep in the meantime.

0:20:250:20:27

By chance, he ended up going at very short notice

0:20:290:20:33

to work for a friend of his who was a theatre producer

0:20:330:20:37

who was working at Leicester Theatre at the time.

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I was up at Leicester Rep doing a guest appearance as Willy Mossop

0:20:410:20:45

in Hobson's Choice.

0:20:450:20:46

My picture appeared in the Leicester Mercury.

0:20:460:20:49

Biddy Baxter, who's the editor, the boss, her mum comes from Leicester,

0:20:490:20:52

so Biddy's mum sent the local paper down to Biddy

0:20:520:20:57

and she saw the picture and wrote to me.

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I thought it might be an idea to audition him

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and see if he'd like to work on the programme.

0:21:060:21:09

There's a friend of ours, John Noakes,

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up at the top of the hill now, and he hasn't been skiing either,

0:21:110:21:13

but he's going to have a go.

0:21:130:21:15

-Are you ready, John?

-OK, Chris.

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He did a fairly disastrous audition.

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But there was just something,

0:21:250:21:27

there was always something about Noakes

0:21:270:21:30

that made you think there was something worth persevering with.

0:21:300:21:33

Well done!

0:21:370:21:38

I kept on my feet.

0:21:380:21:39

Well, now for some really splendid pictures of skiers

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speeding down the French Alps.

0:21:420:21:44

He didn't find it easy at all.

0:21:440:21:46

He had a tremendous problem learning his lines.

0:21:460:21:49

The Royal Horse Artillery use all these tools to clean their horses

0:21:490:21:55

but things weren't quite the same at Wellington Barracks, because...

0:21:550:22:00

Now, why weren't they the same?

0:22:020:22:04

For the life of me, I just can't remember for the moment.

0:22:040:22:07

Er...

0:22:070:22:09

Now this is a problem.

0:22:090:22:10

I enjoyed being other people, pretending to be other people.

0:22:100:22:14

I enjoyed dressing up, putting on the make-up

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and false whiskers, and saying someone else's words.

0:22:170:22:20

Myself, I hadn't anything to offer, but I liked to be somebody else,

0:22:200:22:24

and then sat in front of the camera, the camera wanted to see me.

0:22:240:22:28

I wonder if you can guess what this is.

0:22:280:22:30

And it was a terrifying battle.

0:22:300:22:32

It was quite frightening, in fact.

0:22:320:22:35

I've often wondered what would happen

0:22:350:22:37

if you got one of these stuck on your head, like this.

0:22:370:22:40

I remember thinking he was good and very lively and fun.

0:22:400:22:44

Just take a look at this for a cabbage,

0:22:440:22:46

I've never seen anything like it.

0:22:460:22:48

-Look at it, it's huge!

-Is it bigger than me?

0:22:480:22:50

-It's almost as big as your head!

-Shall we measure it?

0:22:500:22:53

We've got a tape measure there, just pop it round.

0:22:530:22:56

Gradually, he found the character he wanted to play,

0:22:560:22:59

and he did it to perfection, really, and I think he stopped worrying.

0:22:590:23:06

John was someone who defied the norms of television

0:23:100:23:15

in the '60s and '70s.

0:23:150:23:17

On your marks, champion going first, get set.

0:23:170:23:19

Are you ready?

0:23:190:23:20

-Go!

-Eh? Oh! Now.

0:23:200:23:22

He was irreverent.

0:23:220:23:24

He was funny.

0:23:250:23:26

He could be spontaneous.

0:23:260:23:28

-How long has the society been formed now?

-160 years.

0:23:280:23:32

160? Any founder members here?

0:23:320:23:36

It was great hearing someone who just sounded like someone

0:23:360:23:39

you might have heard in the shop next door or in your school

0:23:390:23:41

rather than somebody who was speaking to you very carefully.

0:23:410:23:44

-BEEPING

-Then if I press it in the left eye...

0:23:440:23:46

He was probably one of the first people in television

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with a real regional accent.

0:23:490:23:51

And this is one of the latest things and T-shirts to come out of Japan,

0:23:510:23:54

and its designer, Kansai Yamamoto, and I had to write that on my wrist,

0:23:540:23:59

comes from Tokyo.

0:23:590:24:00

He enjoyed it when we had big items in the studio.

0:24:000:24:04

# We are! #

0:24:090:24:11

-We are!

-We are on fire! Let's get the firemen in behind.

0:24:110:24:16

When Purves arrived, they became great buddies.

0:24:160:24:20

And Valerie Singleton's boyfriend at the time

0:24:230:24:26

said they were like a couple of soldiers on leave!

0:24:260:24:30

Mr Peter Pruves.

0:24:310:24:33

Mr Peter Purves.

0:24:330:24:36

He was never the most approachable person at first

0:24:360:24:39

but we got on absolutely wonderfully virtually from day one.

0:24:390:24:43

Give me a hand, we'll open the box.

0:24:430:24:46

He's very lively, isn't he?

0:24:460:24:47

Here we are. Hello, fella.

0:24:470:24:49

And out he goes.

0:24:490:24:50

Pete was wonderful to bounce off,

0:24:500:24:52

but when Pete wasn't there, Shep was there, so I could bounce off him

0:24:520:24:55

and gradually started talking to the dog.

0:24:550:24:57

Yes, yes, you know that one, don't you?

0:25:010:25:03

Ah! He's got sharp teeth.

0:25:030:25:06

You have got sharp teeth.

0:25:060:25:09

Where's your bone? What he really needs now is a proper name.

0:25:090:25:12

Oh, sorry, I wasn't really watching.

0:25:170:25:19

I've got 100 lines of spelling des...

0:25:190:25:23

John really loved that dog.

0:25:230:25:24

Thanks, Shep. I know you know how to spell it.

0:25:240:25:27

And I think Shep understood John.

0:25:270:25:29

I know it sounds incredible.

0:25:290:25:31

I'm not sure what he's going to do

0:25:310:25:33

because they're fairly well spread out. He's doing a big circle there.

0:25:330:25:36

They were a double act, John and Shep. Shep played

0:25:360:25:39

Ernie Wise to John's Morecambe, basically.

0:25:390:25:42

Woof! Woof!

0:25:420:25:45

The bark frightened Shep more.

0:25:450:25:48

-Who is this little friend?

-He's a little friend with four legs.

0:25:480:25:51

He's a bit like you, a dog.

0:25:510:25:53

There he is.

0:25:530:25:54

Introductions are unnecessary, I have made contact.

0:25:540:25:57

Shep also knew the rules of the game.

0:25:570:25:58

He knew how to behave if he wanted to, not that he did.

0:25:580:26:01

-Give my regards to the Doctor.

-Affirmative.

0:26:010:26:03

Exactly like John, he'd got a rebellious streak.

0:26:050:26:07

He was another natural subversive.

0:26:070:26:09

They were an incredibly good pair.

0:26:090:26:11

No! You might go off with the Doctor to another planet.

0:26:110:26:14

They made a waxwork of John and Shep for Madame Tussauds.

0:26:140:26:18

I am quite jealous because they never made a waxwork of me.

0:26:180:26:21

You've got a very good likeness, actually, especially his eyes.

0:26:210:26:24

The people who watched the programme are not just children.

0:26:240:26:26

They go from four to 94, 104 in fact.

0:26:260:26:30

You get your old-age pensioners,

0:26:300:26:31

go down the docks, all the dockers know you.

0:26:310:26:34

Anywhere you go.

0:26:340:26:36

My better half.

0:26:360:26:37

He was shy, he didn't like celebrity,

0:26:370:26:40

and I used to get a lot of mail.

0:26:400:26:43

There were people from all walks of life

0:26:430:26:45

and the all sort of felt that they were John Noakes's friends.

0:26:450:26:48

Don't worry, you've got Percy Thrower here to talk to.

0:26:480:26:50

You can talk about your Brussels sprouts.

0:26:500:26:52

He wasn't in there to become a star.

0:26:520:26:56

He wasn't there to be a personality.

0:26:560:26:59

He was there to enjoy doing things.

0:26:590:27:02

It was last spring that Alex Jackson,

0:27:020:27:05

the leader of the Falcons, invited me to jump with his team,

0:27:050:27:08

but from a much higher altitude than I'd ever jumped before,

0:27:080:27:10

from five miles up.

0:27:100:27:13

The Falcons loved Noakes.

0:27:150:27:17

There was nothing of the grand BBC presenter

0:27:180:27:21

coming to be with the peasants. He was one of them.

0:27:210:27:25

Altogether, go!

0:27:250:27:27

This guy was going to come and if he didn't cut the mustard,

0:27:270:27:30

then he was probably going to be rejected,

0:27:300:27:33

but he did, on every level.

0:27:330:27:35

Everybody liked John and we didn't have any problems with him.

0:27:350:27:39

MUSIC: Flying by The Beatles

0:27:390:27:43

I think what impressed me about John at the time was things could

0:27:440:27:47

go wrong, but because we said

0:27:470:27:49

if you do this it'll be OK, he just accepted that.

0:27:490:27:52

And there was this confidence that, OK, he will do it.

0:27:540:27:57

He was nervous but controlled.

0:28:010:28:04

And there was never a concern

0:28:040:28:05

about him freaking out or doing something silly.

0:28:050:28:08

He said it was the nearest thing you could get to flying like a bird.

0:28:180:28:23

Yes, he really did enjoy it.

0:28:230:28:26

And we're in space, it's unbelievable, 25,000 feet!

0:28:260:28:31

I remember we flew down to him

0:28:310:28:32

and the boys had done their job very well.

0:28:320:28:35

They linked up with John into a formation

0:28:350:28:38

so that John was not flying on his own.

0:28:380:28:40

On his right was the movie cameramen, Bobby Soutar,

0:28:440:28:46

and a guy called Ray Willis was flying around taking stills,

0:28:460:28:51

then the formation began to build a little.

0:28:510:28:54

Somebody else is coming down.

0:28:540:28:56

Ray has joined us now, Ray with his still camera.

0:28:560:29:02

And then somebody hit it hard.

0:29:020:29:04

He's coming in rather fast.

0:29:040:29:06

And...oh!

0:29:060:29:09

I'm upside down!

0:29:110:29:13

He flipped over onto his back

0:29:130:29:14

and then recovered himself as he'd been taught.

0:29:140:29:17

Now we're going to make the link-up again.

0:29:240:29:26

We had originally decided it would be really cool

0:29:260:29:29

if John could do a commentary on the way down,

0:29:290:29:32

but it could have interfered with his oxygen supply

0:29:320:29:35

and that was out of the question.

0:29:350:29:37

So we couldn't mic him up in any way, shape or form,

0:29:410:29:45

so, secret's out, it was dubbed.

0:29:450:29:49

He's still hanging on to me, whoever crashed into me,

0:29:500:29:53

I don't know who it is.

0:29:530:29:54

I think it worked quite well, a lifelong secret.

0:29:540:29:57

And we've got a bit of cloud down there,

0:29:570:29:59

120mph and you can feel the speed!

0:29:590:30:03

People always talk about the five-mile jump and, of course,

0:30:050:30:09

if you do your maths, 25,000 feet falls a little bit short

0:30:090:30:13

of actually five miles,

0:30:130:30:15

but there was always that temptation just to sneak those extra few feet

0:30:150:30:19

and make a five-mile descent,

0:30:190:30:22

so in all the courses that we did,

0:30:220:30:25

we would always rely on the captain just to let the aircraft

0:30:250:30:29

drift up to the five miles

0:30:290:30:31

so it was...semi-legal, but very safe.

0:30:310:30:35

It was always done safely.

0:30:350:30:37

And now we're going to be opening.

0:30:370:30:40

We used to do it on each course, we did it for John.

0:30:400:30:44

Only feet to go...and touchdown!

0:30:440:30:46

John just said, "Job done," and we all got on the transport

0:30:490:30:54

and went and had a beer.

0:30:540:30:56

-That was all over the place.

-And we went head over heels!

0:30:560:30:59

The Falcons had been terrific,

0:30:590:31:01

not many crack teams would take on a learner like me

0:31:010:31:04

and thanks to them, I'd achieved one of my greatest ambitions.

0:31:040:31:08

It was a bit like an overgrown schoolboy's job,

0:31:130:31:15

I was a Peter Pan, really.

0:31:150:31:17

Towards the end I was very tired and exhausted

0:31:200:31:23

and I'd worked 12 and a half years and I'd done all these things

0:31:230:31:27

and I don't think any of them really ever realised how difficult it was.

0:31:270:31:31

You've got to be a Tarzan, haven't you?

0:31:310:31:33

I think there's a sense of honour, really,

0:31:360:31:38

that you offer them something else.

0:31:380:31:41

And John did Go With Noakes.

0:31:410:31:44

HE SINGS TO HIMSELF

0:31:490:31:54

Sheppy, bit more chocolate?

0:31:570:32:00

When he did his Go With Noakes series, it's great.

0:32:000:32:04

Him and his dog going off doing daft things.

0:32:040:32:06

Shep and I had stumbled on the monthly gathering

0:32:090:32:11

of the Egremont Gurning Club.

0:32:110:32:13

You can't move it around with your hands and hope it sticks there?

0:32:150:32:18

No.

0:32:180:32:20

The nice thing about John was he loved people

0:32:200:32:23

and whenever we took him into a situation,

0:32:230:32:26

he wanted to get on with those people.

0:32:260:32:28

I can't!

0:32:300:32:32

He'd actually take more time to do that than most presenters would.

0:32:320:32:35

He's a world champion.

0:32:350:32:38

The sheep are over there.

0:32:380:32:40

Remember your motto - pull yourself together!

0:32:400:32:42

All right? Now steady.

0:32:420:32:45

Shep had this instinct of knowing where the camera was, I think.

0:32:450:32:49

There's a good boy.

0:32:490:32:50

And would position himself or run around within shot to order.

0:32:500:32:54

Lie down, lie down! Not the sheep.

0:32:540:32:57

Get off! Good heavens!

0:32:570:32:59

I think possibly that would have been his happiest time on television.

0:33:020:33:06

That was Egremont.

0:33:060:33:08

We've never been there before.

0:33:080:33:11

We might not never go there again.

0:33:110:33:14

What are your good memories of Go With Noakes, do you think?

0:33:150:33:18

I think the old dog, really. He was a super fella.

0:33:180:33:22

I've got some very sad news.

0:33:220:33:24

He died on Saturday.

0:33:240:33:27

Oh...

0:33:270:33:28

And I'm not over it.

0:33:280:33:30

John could be quite emotional,

0:33:300:33:33

and if he was, he was.

0:33:330:33:36

It's no sham, no pretence.

0:33:370:33:40

Well, thank you very much for coming in,

0:33:400:33:42

and I'm sorry we've had to end on this rather sad note.

0:33:420:33:45

Well, I actually wanted to say it myself,

0:33:450:33:47

I didn't want anybody else to say it.

0:33:470:33:50

When Shep had died, that broke his heart.

0:33:500:33:53

Did you have any qualms about giving up a very successful television career?

0:34:010:34:04

None whatsoever.

0:34:040:34:06

What about the fame? Do you miss that?

0:34:060:34:09

The fame is in the minds of others.

0:34:090:34:11

It's an abstract quantity.

0:34:110:34:15

It doesn't exist.

0:34:150:34:16

MUSIC: Joy by Apollo 100

0:34:160:34:19

-We're going to come around.

-I'll give you a hand.

0:34:190:34:22

John was able to not have any backward looks.

0:34:230:34:26

A bit of a maverick in a way.

0:34:260:34:28

He had a happy knack of being able to change direction

0:34:280:34:32

and not take life too seriously.

0:34:320:34:34

Wasn't particularly absorbed by material things.

0:34:340:34:38

He was in a way quite a free spirit, really.

0:34:380:34:41

This was going to be the next phase of our life.

0:34:510:34:54

We were all set to sail off into the sunset

0:34:540:34:57

with no plan other than to go to the Caribbean, really,

0:34:570:35:02

and see what we found there,

0:35:020:35:04

so that's what we did.

0:35:040:35:06

But unfortunately we didn't get there.

0:35:060:35:09

We left Gibraltar with not a wonderful weather forecast

0:35:110:35:15

but not a particularly bad one,

0:35:150:35:17

but unfortunately it got worse and worse.

0:35:170:35:20

We were just off the North African coast

0:35:240:35:27

when the weather really came in with a vengeance.

0:35:270:35:32

Gigantic waves, as I saw,

0:35:320:35:34

I looked down the valley and looked out,

0:35:340:35:36

as far as the eye can see was a wall of water,

0:35:360:35:39

smooth, streaked with spume, and I think we went up it.

0:35:390:35:42

We went up it and fell off and down.

0:35:470:35:50

The wave broke on top of us, the windows caved in, the cabin split.

0:35:500:35:54

The boat was half full of water, the mast came down

0:35:540:35:58

then the starter motor went underwater

0:35:580:36:01

and I couldn't start it again.

0:36:010:36:04

Later, we saw a tanker coming.

0:36:100:36:13

That was the most frightening part of the whole thing,

0:36:130:36:16

this tanker trying to come alongside.

0:36:160:36:18

We were trying to manoeuvre as best we could.

0:36:200:36:23

They were up there and we were down, it was just a nightmare situation,

0:36:230:36:26

but anyway we did get alongside, they pulled us in

0:36:260:36:30

and finally we scrambled up scrambling nets and onto the boat.

0:36:300:36:36

MUSIC: Praise You by Fatboy Slim

0:36:360:36:41

There is a saying that old Blue Peter presenters never escape.

0:36:490:36:52

They're dragged back, they're thrown out of aeroplanes,

0:36:520:36:54

they climb cliffs, today I'm here to go right up there.

0:36:540:36:59

We'd like to give you the programme's highest award,

0:36:590:37:01

a gold badge. There you go.

0:37:010:37:04

In the later years when John was older,

0:37:040:37:07

-he'd turn up and do those reunions.

-That was worth it!

0:37:070:37:10

It was a bit like the Laurence Olivier of Blue Peter presenters.

0:37:100:37:13

He'd be the one who always just managed to grab

0:37:130:37:16

the attention from everyone else.

0:37:160:37:17

The 50th anniversary of Blue Peter,

0:37:190:37:21

we went to Buckingham Palace to have tea

0:37:210:37:22

with Her Majesty the Queen in the Salon.

0:37:220:37:25

They filmed us arriving and everything else,

0:37:250:37:28

you knew he was going to do it,

0:37:280:37:29

up the big grand staircase, tripped.

0:37:290:37:32

Can't see a set of steps without falling over.

0:37:360:37:38

Way on, long after Blue Peter, we were still very good friends.

0:37:460:37:50

He was my mate.

0:37:550:37:58

My pal John.

0:37:580:38:00

# Feel like I'm flying, I'm dying to say

0:38:040:38:09

# Want you forever and easy

0:38:090:38:14

# Be where you are, where I want you to stay

0:38:160:38:21

# Don't you know what I'm saying, believe me

0:38:210:38:27

# Feel like I'm falling, it's all I can do

0:38:290:38:33

# Lying and dying is lonely... #

0:38:330:38:39

We all die, I'm going to die.

0:38:390:38:42

Well, not for a few hundred years!

0:38:420:38:45

It's a super life.

0:38:500:38:52

# Way to believe

0:38:590:39:04

# Wish I could be... #

0:39:170:39:22

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