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In the 1970s, the Big Apple was rotten to the core. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
New York City in the middle of the '70s was a rough-looking place. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
New York was wilder than any Wild West town, and probably deadlier. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
But amidst the ruins and squalor, a golden era of music was born. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:33 | |
In downtown Manhattan, punk was created. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:39 | |
-We single-handedly lowered the standards... -Yes. -..of an entire industry. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:45 | |
We are responsible for whatever happened. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
MUSIC: "Hey Ho, Let's Go" by The Ramones | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
In the Midtown, disco was king. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:55 | |
MUSIC: "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
Studio 54, to me, was really no different than what I was seeing in punk. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:03 | |
It was the same freshness. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Especially in a downtrodden city, glamour means an awful lot. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
Whilst on the streets of the Bronx, hip-hop sprung up. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
We didn't have nothin' here in the South Bronx. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Hip-hop really came because there was nothing to do here. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
I was a guy that never went downtown. I stayed in the neighbourhood... | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
and formed a culture called hip-hop. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
In 1970s New York, you could be whoever you wanted to be. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:37 | |
You can come to New York City, and I know it sounds corny, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
you really can fulfil your dream. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
I always thought if you could make it in New York, you could make it anywhere. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
If it doesn't work in New York, we're all in big fucking trouble. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
MUSIC: "Rhapsody In Blue" by George Gershwin | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
New York - a sophisticated city with a refined musical tradition. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
In the '30s and '40s, Broadway swung to the crafted sounds of George Gershwin and Cole Porter. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:30 | |
# It's lovely going through... # | 0:02:30 | 0:02:34 | |
And in the '50s and early '60s, a new generation of Tin Pan Alley tunesmiths | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
gathered in the Midtown's elegant Brill Building, to fashion polished pop that would dominate the charts. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:45 | |
However, in the late '60s, the musical zeitgeist went west | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
to capture the optimism of a new generation. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
And with California taking centre stage, New York felt like an abandoned city. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:05 | |
Not since the Great Depression had the city been so wracked with economic and social woe. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:16 | |
Life Downtown, in the shadow of the skyscrapers, could be tough. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:26 | |
Around the corner from me, a block away from that corner, all day long | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
there was this swarm of about 11 or 12-year-old kids. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
Like a whole, you know, cluster | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
of 30 of them, shifting all the time. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
And they were there because they were runners for heroin buyers. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:47 | |
At that time, there was heroin everywhere. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
The neighbourhood I'm now residing in over on the East Side, was just, like, lethal. | 0:03:53 | 0:04:00 | |
When I was doing lots of cocaine, I knew ten... | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
or more little stores I could just walk into and buy it at any given time, you know. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:09 | |
It was like that. Like a lot of... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
..burnt buildings that were boarded up. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
That kind of scene. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
The neighbourhood we lived in was like that, anyway, the Lower East Side. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
It was, er... | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
in urban decay. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
There was a certain amount of danger. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
Where I lived, I would sometimes come home at like, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
you know, two or three in the morning, and there would be | 0:04:35 | 0:04:40 | |
gang members having knife fights, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
using garbage can lids for shields | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
in the middle of the street. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:46 | |
MUSIC: "Venus In Furs" by Velvet Underground | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
But amidst the squalor, there were bargains to be had. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
Rents could be cheap, especially if you were an arty type. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
# Shiny shiny... # | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
I mean, at the time, there were things called AIR. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
When I first moved, I had a loft down on Lispenard Street. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
It used to be that you could... | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
have low rent if you went down to City Hall | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
showed them a painting and said you're an artist | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
and they'd give you your address with a plaque in front of it saying, "Artist In Residence". | 0:05:17 | 0:05:23 | |
That was all it needed. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
Perhaps the most notable loft dweller was avant-garde artist and scene maker, Andy Warhol, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:31 | |
whose Union Square studio was known simply as "The Factory". | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
In 1965, Warhol was looking to extend his artistic output into music | 0:05:35 | 0:05:41 | |
and he happened upon a similarly avant-garde band. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
We're sponsoring a new band called the Velvet Underground. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
And, um... | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
And we're trying to... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:52 | |
We have this chance to combine music and art and films, all together. | 0:05:52 | 0:06:00 | |
Warhol was a magician with a wand, because when he discovered the Velvets, | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
they had played their second ever gig. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
You know, their second show they every played in some, you know, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
horrible little club in New York. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
And they were totally unknown and making no money, and he pulled them out of that | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
and within, er... | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Well, by February, he had them playing a major show at the Cinematheque | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
called Andy Warhol, Up-Tight. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
That was the beginning of their, you know, multi-dimensional performances, | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
with the films, the dances, the lights and all that. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
The Velvet Underground were not native New Yorkers, but disaffected college students | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
who'd been attracted to the seedy underbelly of Lower Manhattan | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
and its promise of artistic, sexual and chemical experimentation. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
MUSIC: "I'm Waiting For My Man" by Velvet Underground | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
# Up to Lexington, 125 | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
# Feel sick and dirty More dead than alive... # | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
The Velvets were essentially a kind of gritty urban newsreel, | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
what it was like to live on the Lower-Lower East Side. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:09 | |
And what they... | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
sang about was, was life on the fringe of New York existence, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:17 | |
very far removed from the glitz of Times Square. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Lower Manhattan was a drug haven at the time. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
I mean, a lot of my... kind of worst experiences come from living down there. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But what they essentially did was show the other side of the peace-and-love coin. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
# I'm waiting for my man... # | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
When Woodstock happened, I mean you were happy that everybody got stuck in the mud. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
Just the whole "flower children" thing was just silly. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
And we were advocating, you know, giving everybody all the drugs they wanted... | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
which wasn't weed. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
In the midst of all the flower power ethic and all this, you know, sort of lightly hopeful music, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:04 | |
here's this fucking dark, brooding album about heroin and death and murder, you know? | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
So we all picked up on it and it, you know, that record is just... | 0:08:09 | 0:08:14 | |
a fantastic recording. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
# ..My man, cannot be free | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
# Of all of the evils of this town... # | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Recorded in just two days, the Velvet Underground's debut album | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
was far removed from the polished pop coming out of the Brill Building. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Both band and album failed to find success abroad or at home. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
I think sometimes the prophet is without honour in one's hometown. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
But their template, that sense of gritty urban realism and sensual depravity | 0:08:41 | 0:08:49 | |
and, er, drug-induced hallucination, er... | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
would prove very important for... | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
what would come after. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
# H-e-e-e-eroin... | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
# It's my wife and it's my life | 0:09:06 | 0:09:11 | |
# Because a mainer to my vein... # | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
The Velvet Underground would become the imprint for a new generation of downtown New York bands. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:21 | |
But in 1970, their lead singer would leave and search for his own success. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:26 | |
MUSIC: "Walk On The Wild Side" by Lou Reed | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
And in 1972, Lou Reed would strike gold with an unlikely hit | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
inspired by his experiences in downtown New York - | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
Walk On The Wild Side. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
The next thing you know it's coming out of every car window in New York. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
It really was one of those songs you heard every day, ten times. You just couldn't get away from it. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
# Holly came from Miami FLA | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
# Hitch-hiked her way across the USA | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
# Plucked her eyebrows on the way | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
# Shaved her legs and then he was a she | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
# She said, "Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side"... # | 0:10:01 | 0:10:06 | |
What he's doing there is the same thing he did with Velvet, from the best music from Velvet, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:11 | |
which is to use the Warhol world as a sort of palette... | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
to take his stories from. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Walk On The Wild Side is all about Warhol people - Joe Dallesandro, Holly Woodlawn, Jackie Curtis. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
# Candy came from out on the Island...# | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Lou's muses were drag queens who hung out at the Warhol Factory. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
# But she never lost her head | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
# Even when she was giving head | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
# She says, "Hey babe, take a walk on the wild side" | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
# I said... # | 0:10:38 | 0:10:39 | |
They were young men who came from outside the island. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
In New York, they could experience the sexual freedoms they craved and become everybody's darling. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:48 | |
# Do de-do de-do... # | 0:10:48 | 0:10:49 | |
I met Andy Warhol very soon on through the drag queens, through Candy Darling and Jackie Curtis. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:55 | |
So I got to go up to the silver Factory. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
I call myself Candy Warhol now. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
THEY ALL LAUGH | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
I'm cashing in. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
You know, I remember once, I just walked from the elevator to a little way into the Factory. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:12 | |
I ended up with all these pills in my hand, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
and I was just looking at them. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
And I started to take one or two and Candy Darling came over and she said, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
"Oh, can I have the pink ones?" | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
I said, "Sure. Why? What do you want the pink ones for?" | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
She said, "You don't want to take them, dear. They'll make you grow breasts." | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
MUSIC: "Dance To The Music" by Sly And The Family Stone | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Whilst you could be whoever you wanted to be downtown, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
in the rest of New York, the moral majority still held sway. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
On such a small island, it was inevitable that the two worlds would collide. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
Because, if you don't flaunt it, who's going to know you're homosexual or not, you see? | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
What they wanted to do was to flaunt it... | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
-Should I get security in? -No, let him stay. -No. -Let him stay. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
Anita, let's pray. Anita wants to pray. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:03 | |
-SHE SIGHS HEAVILY -That's all right. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
Father, I want to ask that you forgive him. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-That we love him. -And that we love him, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
and that we're praying for him...to be delivered | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
from his deviant lifestyle, Father. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
# Dance to the music... # | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
And back in the summer of '69, a routine police raid at a gay bar in Christopher Street | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
got out of hand and gave birth to sexual politics, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
as well as a new musical movement. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:29 | |
In New York, the thing that started the dance movement, I think, was the Stonewall Riots. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:37 | |
Basically some gay people were partying in a bar | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
and there was a law that said | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
two people of the same sex couldn't dance together. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
And so the police would come in every three months | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
and regularly bust everybody in the gay bars. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
They said, "Fuck this shit. We don't have to take this shit. Everybody else is marching | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
"Even people in women's prisons are going against the wall. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
"And then the black people are getting their rights | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
"everybody's getting their rights. What's happening to the fags? | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
"They come into the clubs, beat, us up and demanding to show our genitalia to prove what sex we are?! | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
"Fuck you!" | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
They came in this one night and this one drag queen didn't want to take it any more and she threw a bottle | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
and it started a riot, which lasted the whole weekend. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
The cops got locked in the club. They were terrified. 7th Avenue was blocked. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:29 | |
We threw things, we turned back buses, we jumped up and down on police cars - it amazed people. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:35 | |
I knew this political hippy who used to say, "Oh, the fags will never organise. Those crazy queens - | 0:13:38 | 0:13:43 | |
"all they want to do is wear make-up and prance around and listen to The Supremes." | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
# I'm living in shame Mama, I miss you... # | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
"They'll never fight back." But on that night they did, they fought back. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
That was the beginning of Gay Liberation as we know it today. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
And it caused the mayor to change the law. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
And once the law was changed, it gave everybody free rein to open some place to dance for gay people. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:10 | |
The Stonewall Riots gave birth to a new culture | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
and gay New York sprang out from the underground, into dance parties held in downtown lofts | 0:14:14 | 0:14:19 | |
heralding the birth of club culture. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
The key loft party was hosted by the unlikely figure of Timothy Leary disciple David Mancuso. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:28 | |
Yeah. Certainly LSD had a role in it, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
you know. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
But not entirely, no. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
It was always in a loft space which was in...kind of '65. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
It was very rare to be living in loft spaces in New York anyway. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:53 | |
I had all this space, so, you know, | 0:14:53 | 0:14:56 | |
and I was always into sound, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
so I started having parties in my loft space. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
It was private and it was very special. David was very unique with his music. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
It was all about the music and it was all about the sound. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
And, er, you felt very special being able to get into the loft. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
People begged you outside, "Please take me in." But it was very private. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
Usually, most of us were socially outcast. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
You had, er... | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
socially different backgrounds... | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
had different backgrounds, you know. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
I was a white boy from Brooklyn, Italian boy, and I partied amongst Asians, amongst Latins, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:38 | |
amongst blacks. And... | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
I met people from all over the world. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
And it was a cultural experience, you know? | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
To me, the loft was the first place I'd ever gone to where music was continuous. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
He was one of the first to... | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
to start making the musical connections | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
that created what we think of as disco. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
You know, connecting rock'n'roll and Latin music and African music | 0:16:14 | 0:16:20 | |
and all kinds of...R&B | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
and really seeing how they fit together. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
The first time I saw a DJ who was not just playing records but creating atmosphere. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:32 | |
And, um, that was a big difference. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
And I realise THAT'S what I wanted to do. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:41 | |
Not play records - create atmosphere. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Inspired by Mancuso's private parties, 17-year-old Nicky Siano and his partner | 0:16:50 | 0:16:56 | |
created their own loft, known as The Gallery. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
We took an empty loft space and we created and designed | 0:17:00 | 0:17:06 | |
a space within the empty loft space, within this blank canvas. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
We created an environment specifically geared towards dancing and blowing your mind. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:17 | |
# Nassau's gone funky Nassau's gone soul... # | 0:17:19 | 0:17:25 | |
Whereas Mancuso played records in their entirety, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
Siano mixed them together with two turntables. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Just the whole idea that the music never stopped. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
The whole idea that you can go from one turntable to another, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
that was a major revelation. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
The idea that you could have one turntable | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
and just mix the next record, was unbelievable! | 0:17:49 | 0:17:54 | |
The records don't stop?! | 0:17:54 | 0:17:55 | |
So that was the first thing, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
that was the first big... innovation. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
And that was the foundation of this idea of just DJs, and it was called disco. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
The Gallery, is considered by many, the first "disco". | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
# Money! Money, money, money, money...! # | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
WHISTLING | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
Come on, boys! | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
The emerging disco scene would soon leave the loft of Lower Manhattan | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
and spread like wild fire across the island. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
But in 1972, the hottest ticket in town was a bunch of mock queens | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
mostly from Queens, who had crossed the East River to fulfil their dreams. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:43 | |
I mean, we called ourselves New York Dolls, but... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
I don't think we ever really expected to... | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
..go anywhere besides New York per-se. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
You know, we were like the band of the East Village when we started out. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
A new rock group has surfaced at Max's Kansas City and created a sell-out. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
Joel Siegel went over to find out what it was all about, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
and filming a rehearsal, he found a cross between the Rolling Stones and Alice Cooper. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
# You're the prima ballerina on a spring afternoon | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
# Change on into the wolfman howlin' at the moon | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
# H-o-o-o-w-w-w... # | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Basically what I would call would be the essence of what rock'n'roll is. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
And that is, er... | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
sort of like, er, an attitude and a angst and anger and just wanting to express yourself | 0:19:31 | 0:19:38 | |
in a very kind of almost primitive way. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
In those times, that really stood out. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
Cos it had really gotten away from that, really. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
REPORTER: 'The Dolls are a social phenomenon. In the city, they sell out wherever they play. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
'They're in their late teens and early 20s, so is their audience. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
'This is a new generation and a new music.' | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
Like, the last wave of rock'n'roll was like... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Mostly it was from San Francisco. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
And it had a definite, um, purpose. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
I mean, the franchisement of certain people to become united under a certain kind of music. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:14 | |
That's what rock'n'roll has always been. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
This form of music just represents the next generation, like the under-21 kind of people | 0:20:16 | 0:20:21 | |
who like to listen to this music. It's like their own music. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
We had no concern really for the prevailing trends in popular music, you know. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:31 | |
There were so many just mediocre bands, you know, that were... | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
selling a lot of records and that were filling up big theatres and stuff. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:41 | |
It just didn't mean anything to us, you know, cos we didn't think it was rock'n'roll. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:47 | |
It wasn't run by the bands or the kids any more. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
It was, like, really industry and corporate and... | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
They were putting together music, so it lost its sex appeal. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
They were the first band that valued attitude above, um, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
anything that... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
anything that was musical. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:11 | |
They were just about teenagers looking to behave the way teenagers fantasise. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:21 | |
Just defying grown-ups. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:22 | |
# ..Alive, I said | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
# Jet Boy's fly, Jet Boy's gone | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
# Jet boy stole my baby | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
# Flyin' around New York City so high | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
# Like he was my baby... # | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
The Dolls played at the Mercer Art Centre, a venue in a decrepit downtown hotel | 0:21:37 | 0:21:42 | |
which would collapse within a year. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:44 | |
Their combination of outrageous camp and raw R&B attracted a local crowd | 0:21:44 | 0:21:48 | |
and a parochial New York rock scene was born. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:52 | |
I remember standing there next to Danny Goldberg and he said, | 0:21:52 | 0:21:56 | |
he said he watched the Dolls and he said, "This is the most important band to come out of New York City | 0:21:56 | 0:22:02 | |
"since the Velvet Underground." I said, "Yeah, it is. They're the real Rolling Stones." | 0:22:02 | 0:22:07 | |
# My b-a-a-a-b-y-y-y... # | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
The Dolls would be a major influence on a new generation, but like the Velvet Underground before them, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:18 | |
the rest of America just wasn't ready. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
Well they certainly were the first. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
But everybody acknowledges that one of the reasons they kind of failed in America | 0:22:22 | 0:22:27 | |
was because people were so horrified by their first album cover. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
You know, to see these guys in make-up like that. No-one was ready for that. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
It's long before Whitesnake and all this fucking shit. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
I mean, before us, really... | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
you know, you had to be the Beatles to get a record deal. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
You had to play like Jeff Beck. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
-We single-handedly lowered the standards... -Yes. -..of an entire industry. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
We are responsible for whatever happened. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
# Jet Boy's fly, Jet Boy's gone | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
# Jet boy stole my baby... # | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
For me, everything begins with the Dolls because before them there were no New York bands... | 0:23:00 | 0:23:07 | |
..of this particular era. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
And after them, there were a few. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
And after them, there were more than a few and... it kind of blossomed from there. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
They had a great inspiration in encouraging people to pick up guitar and play on the streets of New York. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:26 | |
In 1973, New York wasn't exactly famous for its own rock scene. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
It was still just a stop on a nationwide tour for stadium bands like Aerosmith and Kiss. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:42 | |
However, the Dolls do-it-yourself ethos would inspire others in New York's downtown. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:47 | |
One of the first bands to spring up in their wake was Television, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
whose bass player was Richard Hell. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
I had been, um... | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
impressed by the way it had worked for the Dolls, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
that they were associated with the Mercer Arts Centre, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
that I thought that we should find a venue that was doing badly enough | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
that they'd accept these terms we had in mind, which was that we'd play there, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
you know...one night a week or something like that, regularly, um, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:24 | |
on a given night. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
CBGB was a pokey dive, located in New York's infamous Bowery. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
It had been intended for country and bluegrass bands. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
Unfortunately, in 1974, there weren't many Americana acts on the Lower East Side, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
so Television lucked upon a residency. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
Inadvertently, they were to create a New York landmark. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
My favourite memory was the first time I saw | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Television play and I saw Tom Verlaine, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:58 | |
who I thought was just about the most beautiful fella that I'd ever seen, | 0:24:58 | 0:25:06 | |
and, er... | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
it was a Sunday as well. It was Easter Sunday, 1974. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
And, um, I, er, I saw Tom Verlaine and we've been friends ever since. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:19 | |
Patti Smith was a beat poet who had teamed up with guitarist Lenny Kaye | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
to create an experimental music project. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
With Patti, the thought that we would have an actual rock'n'roll band | 0:25:30 | 0:25:36 | |
was very far from our imaginations when we began to play. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
We have a poet, we have a kind of rhythmic guitarist | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
and after a couple of months, we have a steady piano player | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and we're doing a mixture of kind of cabaret songs | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
and "improv-isised" one-chord, uh, you know, rhythmatics. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
We have Patti, who's creating imagery all over the map, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:04 | |
and we're trying to fold all these elements together | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
with our love of rock'n'roll. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
The Patti Smith Group had been struggling to find a venue | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
where they could hone their avant-garde ideas. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:20 | |
It wasn't until we actually saw CBGB's and how it worked | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
that we realised we could have a home in New York | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
where, with other like-minded individuals and musicians, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
that we could all find our way through the creative...swamps. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:38 | |
Although they made no waves in the mainstream press, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Television and Patti Smith attracted an audience of kindred spirits | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
looking downtown for somewhere to play. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
Every other person who was at CBGB's from 1974 to the beginning of 1977, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:58 | |
on a given night, was in a band. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
And in 1975 the regulars included David Byrne, John Cale, art student Chris Stein, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:11 | |
and former Max's Kansas City waitress Deborah Harry. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
The original stage was either over there or over here. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
I know it was on the other side | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
and it was much tinier and tiered with red carpet. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:26 | |
There was no existing house PA at the time, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
people used to bring in their own PA systems and set them up. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:34 | |
This is kind of the famous shot down there. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:43 | |
If I have any visual memories of this, | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
it's just like neon signs and this long expanse of bar here. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:52 | |
Chris Stein and Deborah Harry formed Blondie, an art-rock band who would go on to conquer the world. | 0:27:54 | 0:28:01 | |
But in 1975 they had a long way to go and were still playing Motown covers. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:06 | |
# Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, whoa... # | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
We were very experimental and all over the place, initially. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:16 | |
And that's what was good about being able to play here again and again, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:20 | |
just to, you know, refine and define what we were doing. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
It was great to have that period where we played all the time, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
you got better at doing what you wanted to do. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
Many of the musicians were former art students, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
attracted to New York's downtown for its experimental atmosphere, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
including Talking Heads. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:44 | |
It was a great leveller, CBGB's, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
it was the only place where we could play original music. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
The first time I walked into CBGB's, in 1974, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:59 | |
I saw Debbie Harry and I saw the Ramones, | 0:28:59 | 0:29:05 | |
and that weekend I saw Television and Patti Smith. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
Those of us who had lived out of town and had kind of come in onto New York City | 0:29:10 | 0:29:15 | |
and had chosen it as a spawning ground, so to speak, | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
it was because of the New York Dolls, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
and the fact that there was a city that was so tolerant of this outrageousness, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:29 | |
that made it very appealing, very attractive. It was also very close to where we were. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:34 | |
And then we auditioned. I went up to Hilly Kristal and I said, | 0:29:34 | 0:29:38 | |
"We have this band, can we audition to play here?" | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
He said, "Well, like, yeah, I could put you on in front of the Ramones tomorrow night." | 0:29:41 | 0:29:48 | |
And so, it really was kind of a trial-by-fire thing. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
THE RAMONES PLAY: "Hey Ho, Let's Go" | 0:29:52 | 0:29:59 | |
The only band who emerged at CBGB who could truly claim to be from New York was the Ramones. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
Their garage sound heralded a return to classic rock'n'roll | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
that would ultimately transcend CBGB and New York | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
to take the world by storm. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:13 | |
# Hey ho! Let's go! | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
# Hey ho! Let's go! # | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
The Ramones was basically a concept that developed in my head | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
after I saw the New York Dolls and saw how entertaining they were. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:30 | |
Even though they weren't virtuoso musicians, they were very exciting. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:35 | |
They put on a good show and to me, it seemed like at this time, everybody was a virtuoso musician. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:42 | |
That was the thing. It started with Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton, stuff like that. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
Everybody was noodling away and I thought, "It's time for a change." | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
And we wanted to go back to the two-minute song, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
which for us, it was more like a minute and a quarter! | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
They were like, you know, paratroopers descending, | 0:30:57 | 0:31:01 | |
like the SWAT team plunging through the plate-glass windows, you know? | 0:31:01 | 0:31:06 | |
It was very effective, always. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
For me, the Ramones created a template of punk rock | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
that would be known as punk rock. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
Punk was originally the name of a New York fanzine set up in 1976 | 0:31:17 | 0:31:21 | |
to highlight the underground, downtown rock scene. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:25 | |
Punk as a musical idea would be truly realised later in another city across the Atlantic, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:31 | |
but the word was first applied to bands playing at CBGB. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
# Psycho killer, qu'est-ce que c'est? | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
# Ba-ba-ba... # | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
I don't know if Talking Heads really qualified as a punk band. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
We thought of ourselves as artists who happened to be musicians as well. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:48 | |
We felt like we really had a strong connection | 0:31:48 | 0:31:52 | |
with bands like the Ramones, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
and bands like Television and Patti Smith, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
but I don't think they really thought of themselves as punks, either. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:02 | |
# You start a conversation and you can't even finish it | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
# You're talking a lot But you're not saying anything... # | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
Whether they were punk or not, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
one thing was for sure. | 0:32:12 | 0:32:14 | |
Very few of the CBGB bands could get a record deal. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
For me, the record labels took a while to figure it out down there, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
because it was out of their realm of knowledge. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
They didn't quite know what to do with these bands. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
They sounded different than most of the groups that were selling on the radio. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
And sometimes, when your head is in the clouds, you don't see what is happening down by your feet. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:39 | |
You got these huge corporations, and yet, 30, 40 blocks downtown, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
there's a kind of excitement and a new thing, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:49 | |
but it takes a while for it to filter up. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
# Johnny gets a feeling... # | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
And in the Patti Smith Group's case, it would be Midtown major label Arista | 0:32:56 | 0:33:00 | |
who would sign them and team the band up with producer and godfather of the downtown scene, John Cale. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:06 | |
# He saw horses, horses, horses | 0:33:09 | 0:33:12 | |
# Horses, horses, horses... | 0:33:12 | 0:33:14 | |
# Horses, horses, Do you know how to pony...? # | 0:33:14 | 0:33:19 | |
It was a band that had never been in a studio before, | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
and it was a band that also had really worked themselves up from nothing, | 0:33:23 | 0:33:31 | |
very carefully. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:32 | |
# Do the alligator... # | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
It definitely was like working with a hero, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
but the nice thing about John is that he's quite a human being, | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
and he's a funny guy and as flawed and as ecstatic as we all are. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:48 | |
And so...once we got down to the actual working, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
we found our rhythm. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:56 | |
Some of it was very confrontational. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
When we went into the studio, everybody was probably playing their first instruments - | 0:33:59 | 0:34:04 | |
first guitar ever owned, first keyboard ever owned - | 0:34:04 | 0:34:08 | |
and we got into problems because they were warped and had all sorts of problems, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:13 | |
so I called up and I said, "Hey, send over a couple of guitars, send over a keyboard," | 0:34:13 | 0:34:19 | |
and it really upset the apple-cart. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
The result of the tense collaboration | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
would be the classic album Horses, | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
whose poetic ambition and return to three-chord rock'n'roll | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
would be a war-cry to a new generation, | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
and put punk on the global map. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
# Life is filled with pain I'm cruisin' through my brain... # | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
What had been created downtown | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
had eventually been assimilated in Midtown New York | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
and served up to the world. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
MUSIC: "Saturday Night Fever" by the Bee Gees | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
In 1977, exactly the same thing would happen to disco, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
which had left its downtown roots far behind. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
Set in New York, the movie Saturday Night Fever | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
exported disco-mania worldwide. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
And in the affluent heart of Manhattan emerged the ultimate club. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:08 | |
MUSIC: "Turn The Beat Around" by Vicki Sue Robinson | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
It opened at the end of '77, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
and the opening night was huge and fantastic. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
# Turn the beat around... # | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
This is where you'd see Bianca Jagger, | 0:35:26 | 0:35:31 | |
in all her glory, or David Bowie, for that matter, or Iman, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
or Diana Ross, or all of Houston, all the designers. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
You'd see women with very, very extreme make-up, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
heavily done up, huge platform shoes. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
You know, it was disco. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
Studio 54 was the brainchild of enterprising businessman Steve Rubell. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:57 | |
Steve really worked on getting it in the paper every day | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
and having these little, like Bianca's birthday party, | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
which happened almost within the first month we were open, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
which I played for. She came in on this white horse, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
and in the middle of the New York Daily News the next day, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
there were all pictures of Bianca Jagger on this white horse | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
and the Bee Gees were in town at the Madison Square Garden, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
and the Bee Gees got this much coverage, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
and Bianca got this much coverage, so it was really like a weird time | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
when people were very into this scene, and exposing it. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
THUMPING BACKGROUND MUSIC It's difficult to know what it is exactly that attracts people here. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:37 | |
All that one can be absolutely sure of is that it isn't the conversation! | 0:36:37 | 0:36:42 | |
Norman Rhys, News At 10, at Studio 54 in New York. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:48 | |
Studio 54, to me, was really no different... | 0:36:48 | 0:36:54 | |
than what I was seeing in punk. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
Because it was the same freshness. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
When I walked into Studio 54, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
and I walked to the edge of the dancefloor, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
and all this white powder was falling from the ceiling like snow, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
but obviously, the image was coke, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
and these frenzied people were dancing, | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
and there were all these fascinating people standing round talking to each other. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
I just was in another room with people who were really alive and really there. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:24 | |
MUSIC: "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
It felt really magical. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Erm, at the risk of sounding corny, if you got into Studio, you belonged. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
And...if you belonged in Studio, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:42 | |
you were an interesting person and everybody treated you that way. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
I remember just anybody that you got into a conversation with, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
it felt like it was more interesting. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
It felt like... you were talking to Truman Capote, | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
and you actually could be talking to Truman Capote! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
You felt like you were talking to intellectuals, artists, | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
people who were gonna have some sort of impact on the world. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
Precisely in a downtrodden city, glamour means an awful lot. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
And glamour was really what that place was about. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
It was a place where you felt like, | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
"I have arrived in the city, on some weird level I have access to it." | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
Well, it kind of worked for me because I ended up | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
giving two soldiers a blow job out on the balcony one night. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
After doing about two bags of coke. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
It was a fascinating place, there was the ground floor, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
the famous dancefloor. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:45 | |
But if you weren't in the lower, the real action was on the balcony. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
There weren't seats, people would be making out, people would be fucking, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
people would be doing drugs... | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
It just felt really, uh... | 0:38:58 | 0:39:00 | |
it did feel decadent. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
# You're a native New Yorker... | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
But the balcony was where people went to give blow jobs anyway. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:11 | |
Everyone gave blow jobs up on the balcony at Studio 54. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
Believe me, in those days, before Aids came along, sex was rampant. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
People would have sex at the drop of whatever | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
and of course a lot of people had to pay for it, but that's what it was like. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:28 | |
Within six months, Studio 54 had earned a reputation | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
for being a Midtown Sodom and Gomorrah | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
and suddenly everybody who was anybody wanted to be there. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:41 | |
And so Steve started getting all this press and all of a sudden there's lines around the block | 0:39:41 | 0:39:47 | |
and he decides to do this kind of, "You. Not you. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:52 | |
"You if take your shirt off and you lose your girlfriend," | 0:39:52 | 0:39:57 | |
and all these things which were really, I thought, very, very rude. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
No, you're not shaved, there's no way you're gonna get in. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
It doesn't matter. Listen, just go home. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Studio was the antithesis of what most people at the beginning | 0:40:08 | 0:40:15 | |
felt disco was about. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
It was certainly not at all democratic. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:21 | |
Studio 54 turned the all-inclusive, music-led ethos of the downtown club scene on its head, | 0:40:22 | 0:40:28 | |
selling exclusivity to the privileged few. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
For those without the keys to the city, | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
the more they were turned away, the more they wanted to come. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:38 | |
We went down to Studio 54 and we were sure that Grace Jones had our name on a list, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:45 | |
she was like the queen of disco, queen of clubs. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
and...you know, we get there and we try to get in, you know... | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
"Hey, it's, you know, CHIC." | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
"Chic who?" | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
"You know, CHIC." And we try everybody, it's not happening at Studio 54! | 0:40:57 | 0:41:02 | |
"You know, CHIC, 'Yowsah yowsah yowsah, dance, dance, dance...'" | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
"Well, I don't see your name on the list." | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
New Year's Eve was a heavy night at Studio. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
When you're turning away enough people, there starts to be a real backlash against you, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:18 | |
not just people talking bad about you | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
but energy-wise, people thinking, "That guy sucks, that club sucks." | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
And, like the good ex-revolutionary and former Black Panther that I was, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:33 | |
the first thing I thought of was writing a protest song, | 0:41:33 | 0:41:37 | |
so I started jamming on this groove. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
HE IMITATES GUITAR | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
And then Bernard just came right in... | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
HE IMITATES BASS GUITAR | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
And we start grooving and, I don't know what made me do it, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:57 | |
I just went, "Fuck off!" because it was just right. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
# Freak out! # | 0:42:00 | 0:42:01 | |
Nobody black, or anybody I knew, were able to get into Studio 54. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
They would just block off the whole block, so that was just like...ugh! | 0:42:06 | 0:42:10 | |
It was a severe hatred for Studio 54, it was like, "Fuck them, man," | 0:42:10 | 0:42:15 | |
really, "I hope it burns down." | 0:42:15 | 0:42:18 | |
For millions of New Yorkers not fortunate enough | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
to belong to the city's elite, | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
the glamour of Studio 54 and the bohemian atmosphere of CBGB | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
were a far cry from the reality of the streets. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:36 | |
New York City in the middle of the '70s was a rough-looking place. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
You talked about... There was corruption inside government, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
there was a problem with fiscal spending, | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
and there was always a distrust of the mayorship around that time. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:56 | |
So you had services in New York City that were limited | 0:42:56 | 0:43:01 | |
and the first areas that felt the limited services | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
were the areas where black and Hispanic people were living. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:08 | |
Thus, you know, Uptown, Brooklyn and the Bronx | 0:43:08 | 0:43:13 | |
were having a rough time at it, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
and kind of like dipped into the realm of being slums. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:20 | |
Well, I mean, this is a long history, | 0:43:25 | 0:43:27 | |
it goes back to when they built the cross-Bronx expressway. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
Robert Moses, who was a giant builder, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:36 | |
had this mandate, that even superseded that of elected officials, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:42 | |
to build what he felt was necessary | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
and it was a big construction project that went through the Bronx, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
and it really split the area apart, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
it went right through the heart of the south Bronx, | 0:43:51 | 0:43:54 | |
it disrupted the neighbourhoods on either side, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:57 | |
and the area never quite recovered from it psychologically, the sense of cohesion was lost. | 0:43:57 | 0:44:01 | |
The south Bronx resembled a warzone. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:10 | |
Buildings that hadn't been demolished were torched by insurance-scamming landlords | 0:44:10 | 0:44:15 | |
and a city-wide blackout in '77 | 0:44:15 | 0:44:16 | |
served only to enhance the atmosphere of lawlessness. | 0:44:16 | 0:44:21 | |
In '77, you see a lot of the stores, like right here, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:35 | |
a lot of these stores never came back from that blackout. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
People came through and they started looting, breaking windows, | 0:44:38 | 0:44:42 | |
crashing bottles and just taking everything in sight. | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
That blackout was crazy. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
I think the south Bronx suffered more from that blackout than any other borough. | 0:44:47 | 0:44:52 | |
We've been needlessly subjected to a night of terror | 0:44:52 | 0:44:57 | |
in many communities that have been wantonly looted and burned. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:02 | |
What was special, it was home, it was home. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
People had their own negative version of what they thought the Bronx was. | 0:45:05 | 0:45:09 | |
The Bronx was burning, the Bronx was going to this, the Bronx had economic...social problems. | 0:45:09 | 0:45:15 | |
That was home for me. | 0:45:15 | 0:45:16 | |
There was really nothing to do here. | 0:45:21 | 0:45:23 | |
We only had one movie theatre, which was over there, which came apart. | 0:45:23 | 0:45:28 | |
We didn't have a lot of opportunities to come out in the south Bronx, that's what it was. | 0:45:28 | 0:45:33 | |
Unable to go to Studio 54 and lacking any local club scene, | 0:45:36 | 0:45:40 | |
young people took matters into their own hands. | 0:45:40 | 0:45:43 | |
It started with the de-emphasising of music education in the school systems. | 0:45:47 | 0:45:53 | |
And since so many things were taken away from the community, | 0:45:53 | 0:45:56 | |
the community sort of culturally compensated for that | 0:45:56 | 0:46:01 | |
with the creation of making something | 0:46:01 | 0:46:05 | |
out of things that just happened to be around. | 0:46:05 | 0:46:08 | |
Old turntables. | 0:46:08 | 0:46:10 | |
Um, old record collections. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
Hooking systems up into street poles for wiring. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:17 | |
Making art out of a wall | 0:46:17 | 0:46:20 | |
and a spray can that happened to be left to the side. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:24 | |
Being able to dance on some cardboard. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:29 | |
MUSIC: "Good Times" by Chic | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Open-air disco parties sprung up on the streets | 0:46:31 | 0:46:34 | |
and in the parks of the South Bronx. | 0:46:34 | 0:46:36 | |
And the DJs who hosted them became neighbourhood stars. | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
One of the first to get a reputation for doing something different | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
was DJ Kool Herc. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:45 | |
# Good times... # | 0:46:45 | 0:46:47 | |
I was a guy that never went downtown. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:49 | |
I stayed in the neighbourhood and formed a culture called hip-hop. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:54 | |
I was the guy that never followed with the rest of the people. | 0:46:54 | 0:46:57 | |
Basically, Kool Herc was the guy who got two turntables... | 0:46:57 | 0:47:00 | |
..and a system, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
came out in a big park, | 0:47:03 | 0:47:05 | |
and rocked the park, know what I'm sayin'? | 0:47:05 | 0:47:07 | |
It wasn't called hip-hop when I was doing it. | 0:47:11 | 0:47:13 | |
It was called the "jam". "Comin' to the jam." | 0:47:13 | 0:47:16 | |
The thing about Kool Herc, he played a lot of stuff. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
He was a DJ who played records you'd never hear on the radio. | 0:47:22 | 0:47:25 | |
A lot of breakbeats, a lot of hot breakbeats and all that. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
"Breakbeat" was a term used for old funk records, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:34 | |
where the music broke down to a bare rhythm. | 0:47:34 | 0:47:36 | |
Herc would take instrumental breaks from different records | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
and then mix them together non-stop. | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Other DJs soon picked up on the technique. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
I figured out that to every great song, there's a great part. | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
And a lot of times, | 0:47:50 | 0:47:53 | |
you know, that part could've been ten seconds. | 0:47:53 | 0:47:56 | |
That really used to piss me off. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:58 | |
The best part of a record is when the drummer finally gets a moment | 0:47:58 | 0:48:02 | |
and the rest of the band members is just taking a coffee break - | 0:48:02 | 0:48:06 | |
so why can't this be five minutes? | 0:48:06 | 0:48:09 | |
So I had to figure out a way to take this particular passage of the record, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:14 | |
repeat that, but also add percussive noises. | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
Repeat it, and sort of do some kind of manual editing to it. | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
Kinda like do things to the record that the record shoulda had. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:26 | |
Guy's a scientist, goes to high school and wants to build technical things, | 0:48:29 | 0:48:34 | |
and makes a mixer and stuff like that, | 0:48:34 | 0:48:37 | |
and once again, it was one of those understatements of... | 0:48:37 | 0:48:41 | |
inner-city black children, Hispanic children, | 0:48:41 | 0:48:44 | |
that said, "We got our geniuses, | 0:48:44 | 0:48:46 | |
"and people want to have the quest to become smarter | 0:48:46 | 0:48:49 | |
"and have opportunities to do great things." | 0:48:49 | 0:48:52 | |
And the city was basically saying, "No, nigger, | 0:48:52 | 0:48:55 | |
"you're not gonna be anything more than just a, you know, | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
"a little slum creature." | 0:48:58 | 0:49:00 | |
And the minds and the spirits and the souls | 0:49:01 | 0:49:03 | |
came up through hip-hop and said, "No, we wanna be better than that." | 0:49:03 | 0:49:07 | |
HEAVY FUNK | 0:49:07 | 0:49:09 | |
Hip-hop was that thing that everybody at these particular parties | 0:49:11 | 0:49:16 | |
that got on the mic would at some point say. | 0:49:16 | 0:49:19 | |
"To the hip, the hop, | 0:49:19 | 0:49:20 | |
"the hibby-dibby-dibby-dibby hip hip-hop, you don't stop." | 0:49:20 | 0:49:23 | |
And that's how you would define one of those parties | 0:49:23 | 0:49:27 | |
as opposed to one of the disco parties. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
These parties were an outlet for a lot of aggressive energy... | 0:49:30 | 0:49:34 | |
that was bottled up otherwise. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:36 | |
It was a place where guys who were criminals, | 0:49:37 | 0:49:39 | |
who wanted to prey on people that looked like them, could go. | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
What better place to rob someone | 0:49:42 | 0:49:45 | |
than a room full of guys wearing the same Snorkel and baseball cap. | 0:49:45 | 0:49:49 | |
The violence came from members of organised gangs | 0:49:51 | 0:49:54 | |
whose territorial wars were a major problem in the Bronx. | 0:49:54 | 0:49:57 | |
1975, '76, '77 - | 0:49:58 | 0:50:02 | |
this park right here was most famous for gang activity. | 0:50:02 | 0:50:06 | |
If you got into a situation with the gangs, | 0:50:06 | 0:50:10 | |
they'd probably bring you here to set you off. | 0:50:10 | 0:50:13 | |
It's real big, it's like Central Park. | 0:50:13 | 0:50:15 | |
So if they was gonna murder you, or beat you up, or take your stuff, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
they would bring you in here. | 0:50:19 | 0:50:20 | |
It takes a long time for the cops to find you in St Mary's Park. | 0:50:20 | 0:50:23 | |
So most of the gangs, like the Bachelors, the Black Spades, | 0:50:23 | 0:50:27 | |
the Savage Nomads, | 0:50:27 | 0:50:29 | |
they used to have their gang fights right here in this park. | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
BONGOES | 0:50:32 | 0:50:35 | |
But one man would see the light. | 0:50:38 | 0:50:40 | |
Afrika Bambaataa was a committed gang member | 0:50:41 | 0:50:44 | |
until a close friend was shot dead by the NYPD. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
Inspired by Kool Herc, | 0:50:46 | 0:50:49 | |
Bambaataa turned to DJing at block parties | 0:50:49 | 0:50:51 | |
in an effort to end gang warfare. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:54 | |
Yes, I was part of a great street gang | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
and many other street gangs that I have been involved with. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
My greatest one was the Black Spades. | 0:51:03 | 0:51:06 | |
The Savage Spades. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:07 | |
-GRANDMASTER FLASH: -There was a lot of pain | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
and a lot of distress going on in the Bronx | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
with the gang thing that was going on. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:17 | |
He took, like, a... | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
..a huge mass of people | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
that were so angry, | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
and turned that nervous energy into a coalition that's now worldwide. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:31 | |
You still got the Savage Nomads, the Seven Immortals and all them people. | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
It's the same thing, you know. Only thing is | 0:51:34 | 0:51:37 | |
they do all that crazy shit, man, dancing and all that. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:40 | |
Like they be showin' on TV. Instead of fighting, they dance each other to death. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:45 | |
Which is better than going out there with a .30-30 and shooting somebody. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
The gang culture faded away | 0:51:49 | 0:51:51 | |
to the hip-hop culture. | 0:51:51 | 0:51:54 | |
Then you started getting crews and organisations. | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
Thus came... We had the Bronx River Organisation, | 0:51:57 | 0:52:01 | |
that became the Organisation. The Organisation became the Zulu Nation. | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
The Zulu Nation became the Almighty Zulu Nation | 0:52:05 | 0:52:08 | |
and the Almighty Zulu Nation became the Universal Zulu Nation. | 0:52:08 | 0:52:11 | |
Bambaataa had the wherewithal to say, | 0:52:11 | 0:52:14 | |
"Music can kind of like, you know... | 0:52:14 | 0:52:17 | |
"calm the savage beast," and kind of like make people say | 0:52:17 | 0:52:20 | |
"Forget the drama and the beef, | 0:52:20 | 0:52:22 | |
"let's kind of like... | 0:52:22 | 0:52:23 | |
"have a time, cos we're kind of all here together." | 0:52:23 | 0:52:26 | |
South Bronx in the house! | 0:52:26 | 0:52:28 | |
Yeah! | 0:52:28 | 0:52:29 | |
Is everybody in the house? | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
As the nascent hip-hop scene absorbed the street gangs' energy, | 0:52:34 | 0:52:37 | |
it began to flourish, and the word spread across town. | 0:52:37 | 0:52:40 | |
Subway trains tagged up in the Bronx's vast train yards | 0:52:40 | 0:52:45 | |
took graffiti, hip-hop's visual message, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
right into the heart of Manhattan. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
The New York art world was quick to see the potential in graffiti | 0:52:50 | 0:52:53 | |
and it was soon feted as the freshest thing | 0:52:53 | 0:52:55 | |
since Warhol. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:57 | |
Graffiti artists like Fab Five Freddy | 0:53:02 | 0:53:05 | |
became hip-hop's ambassadors for those curious to find out more - such as Blondie. | 0:53:05 | 0:53:10 | |
MUSIC: "Heart Of Glass" by Blondie | 0:53:10 | 0:53:14 | |
I kind of turned them on to hip-hop, took them to the Bronx, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:19 | |
showed them hip-hop in the raw, in the flesh. | 0:53:19 | 0:53:21 | |
And they kind of | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
took me to parties and introduced me to Warhol and I met kind of the cream | 0:53:23 | 0:53:28 | |
of the downtown arts scene. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:29 | |
# ..Only to find... # | 0:53:29 | 0:53:31 | |
Of all the downtown bands, Blondie had had the most success. | 0:53:31 | 0:53:35 | |
These so-called punks had even hit number one with a disco song - Heart Of Glass. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:41 | |
And having assimilated one New York musical form, | 0:53:41 | 0:53:43 | |
Blondie were keen to sample another. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
# ..Soon found out, I was losing my mind | 0:53:47 | 0:53:50 | |
# Seemed like the real thing, but I was so blind... # | 0:53:51 | 0:53:54 | |
Fab Five Freddy would always come to my parties over in the Bronx and he had always said to us, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:59 | |
"Man, I'm gonna bring Blondie up here." | 0:53:59 | 0:54:01 | |
And we all thought he was full of shit, | 0:54:01 | 0:54:04 | |
because at that time, she had Call Me, all these songs... | 0:54:04 | 0:54:08 | |
-# Call me! -Call me | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
# I'm alive Call me, call me any, any... # | 0:54:11 | 0:54:15 | |
Well, in '77, Freddy brought us up to the South Bronx | 0:54:15 | 0:54:20 | |
to this big hip-hop event and it had already been in full swing, | 0:54:20 | 0:54:25 | |
and it really parallels the downtown rock scene | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
and I called it a destructivist, reconstructionist form | 0:54:27 | 0:54:31 | |
where they're pulling things apart and playing it back together again, | 0:54:31 | 0:54:35 | |
taking their records, doing the scratching, all that stuff. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:40 | |
Similar to us pulling apart the old forms of rock'n'roll and putting them back together again. | 0:54:40 | 0:54:45 | |
The majority of my audience was, you know, blacks, Spanish, Latinos, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:51 | |
and there was this one blonde head coming through the crowd, you know? | 0:54:51 | 0:54:56 | |
Freddy was... "Fun, huh?" | 0:54:56 | 0:54:58 | |
And er... | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
She came, and she said, "You know something? | 0:55:01 | 0:55:03 | |
"I watched you, and it was so amazing watching you play the turntables," | 0:55:03 | 0:55:07 | |
She says, "I'm gonna write a song about you." | 0:55:07 | 0:55:11 | |
Of course, I gave her a smile, | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
like, "Yeah, right!" | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
And erm, I guess their way of helping | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
was they made this record called Rapture | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
which mentioned me on the record. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
They said, "Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly." | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
"There's a DJ named Flash, and he's the fastest..." | 0:55:25 | 0:55:29 | |
RAPPING: # Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly | 0:55:29 | 0:55:32 | |
# DJ spinning, I said, "My my" | 0:55:32 | 0:55:34 | |
# Flash is fast, Flash is cool | 0:55:34 | 0:55:36 | |
# Francois c'est pas Flashe non due | 0:55:36 | 0:55:38 | |
# And you don't stop, sure shot. # | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
You know, Debbie just took all that stuff | 0:55:40 | 0:55:43 | |
and spit it out in the rap that she did for Rapture, | 0:55:43 | 0:55:47 | |
which was probably the first time | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
most people heard this idea of rapping, you know, | 0:55:49 | 0:55:52 | |
"What is this?" And it was a huge record. | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
# And then you're in demand for more | 0:55:55 | 0:55:58 | |
# You go out at night eating cars | 0:55:58 | 0:56:01 | |
# You eat Cadillacs, Lincolns too | 0:56:01 | 0:56:03 | |
# Mercurys and Subaru | 0:56:03 | 0:56:05 | |
# And you don't stop... # | 0:56:05 | 0:56:06 | |
Rapture is really an homage. | 0:56:06 | 0:56:08 | |
It wasn't intended as an actual rap song. | 0:56:08 | 0:56:11 | |
But still, the guy from Wu Tang told me it was the first rap song | 0:56:11 | 0:56:15 | |
he ever heard, so that's kind of a mind-fuck, you know? | 0:56:15 | 0:56:19 | |
# They're stepping lightly | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
# Hang each night in rapture... # | 0:56:23 | 0:56:31 | |
Rapture's blend of New York influences went far beyond the five boroughs, | 0:56:32 | 0:56:37 | |
reaching the American number one spot in '81. | 0:56:37 | 0:56:40 | |
The song took hip-hop out of New York and into the wider world, | 0:56:40 | 0:56:44 | |
where it would become today's biggest selling genre. | 0:56:44 | 0:56:47 | |
# And it's finger-popping Twenty-four-hour shopping | 0:56:47 | 0:56:52 | |
# In rapture... # | 0:56:52 | 0:56:57 | |
The song stood at the pinnacle of a golden era of street music | 0:56:57 | 0:57:01 | |
in which New York's urban neighbourhoods gave birth to hip-hop, disco and punk. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:07 | |
There was some element of the hardcore, | 0:57:10 | 0:57:14 | |
of survivors in a frontier town. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:19 | |
The fact that you could walk two blocks in either direction | 0:57:21 | 0:57:24 | |
and be in an entirely different musical world. | 0:57:24 | 0:57:26 | |
It was a great place to be creative | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
and to realise that you were beyond a sense of rule. | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
Just think about this. We're talking about people going into a park - | 0:57:35 | 0:57:38 | |
a city school yard or a park - | 0:57:38 | 0:57:40 | |
with huge speakers...and you know, dancers, and blasting music. | 0:57:40 | 0:57:46 | |
That would never happen now. | 0:57:46 | 0:57:48 | |
That's a quality-of-life crime. | 0:57:48 | 0:57:51 | |
MUSIC: "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash | 0:57:51 | 0:57:55 | |
Manhattan has really fucked itself. It's shot itself in the foot, | 0:57:55 | 0:57:58 | |
by making it impossible for young people to move here. | 0:57:58 | 0:58:01 | |
It's really, really hard to move into New York these days. | 0:58:01 | 0:58:04 | |
Erm, so that's really created a big difference. | 0:58:04 | 0:58:08 | |
And there's no place today for the last remaining symbol of '70s New York, CBGB. | 0:58:10 | 0:58:16 | |
It shut its doors for the last time in October 2006. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
They could have, like, built around a church. | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
They could have put the condos | 0:58:24 | 0:58:26 | |
and all the new, hip gentry that's come into the fucking area | 0:58:26 | 0:58:30 | |
would have been happy | 0:58:30 | 0:58:31 | |
to live in a very expensive condo over the CBGB's museum. | 0:58:31 | 0:58:34 | |
What's happening to New York? | 0:58:35 | 0:58:38 | |
Look around. Try to get an apartment. | 0:58:38 | 0:58:42 | |
# Don't push me Cos I'm close to the edge | 0:58:42 | 0:58:46 | |
# I'm tryin' not to lose my head... # | 0:58:46 | 0:58:51 | |
These days, New York is safe, clean and rich, | 0:58:51 | 0:58:54 | |
but the golden era of street music and making something out of nothing | 0:58:54 | 0:58:59 | |
seems to have gone forever. | 0:58:59 | 0:59:01 | |
# Crazy lady, livin' in a bag | 0:59:01 | 0:59:03 | |
# Eatin' out of garbage pails Used to be a fag-hag | 0:59:03 | 0:59:06 | |
# Said she danced the tango | 0:59:06 | 0:59:07 | |
# Skipped the light fandango | 0:59:07 | 0:59:08 | |
# A zircon princess, seemed to've lost her senses | 0:59:08 | 0:59:10 | |
# Down at the peep-show Watchin' all the creeps | 0:59:10 | 0:59:13 | |
# So she can tell her stories to the girls back home | 0:59:13 | 0:59:15 | |
# She went to the city and got so, so, so ditty, | 0:59:15 | 0:59:17 | |
# She had to get a pimp She couldn't make it on her own | 0:59:17 | 0:59:20 | |
# Don't push me cos I'm close to the edge | 0:59:20 | 0:59:25 | |
# I'm tryin' not to lose my head... # | 0:59:25 | 0:59:28 |